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Pastor Larry Osborne urges believers to leave fear behind and to bear the name of Jesus in a favorable way for the neighbors, coworkers, and unbelievers around them.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-01-05.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There is a connection between living a spiritually-disciplined life and the character of your life; but at the end of the day, it\u2019s the character that matters more than the disciplines themselves. Here is Pastor Larry Osborne. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>You know what?\u00a0 You might never have family devotions \/ you might not ever go on a family vacation\u2014you might break <em>every<\/em> rule that, at the conference, you are told to do to have a good family; and if you really walk with Jesus the way you are supposed to walk, you have <em>incredibly<\/em> high odds that that\u2019s what your kids are going to be like when they grow up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, January 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk today about strategies for raising children, who will love and serve Jesus in a culture where that\u2019s not valued the way it used to be. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, do you think you\u2019re a scaredy-cat Christian?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You don\u2019t?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, but I am a step away from being one. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019re just right on the edge; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m telling you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014I can get terrified with the best of them. In fact, something our guest today mentioned on an earlier broadcast\u2014I do watch some news programs in the evening; and it does feel like, to me, you are on a steady drip\u2014almost like a transfusion of fear that\u2019s coming into your veins. Truthfully, I\u2019ve cut way back on my diet of how much news talk on TV\u2014especially from those who are really marketing fear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, our engineer, Keith, has an expression for this\u2014can you punch in and tell everybody what your expression for this is?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith: <\/strong>The sky is falling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, Keith talks about everything\u2014the sky is falling. So, chance for rain today\u2014 \u201cOh no!\u00a0 Oh no!\u00a0 The sky is falling!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. And every day the news is broadcast, it\u2019s like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and there is a new crisis today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we have a guest with us who has already said, as I indicated, that we shouldn\u2019t be scaredy-cat Christians. Larry Osborne joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back, Larry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Thank you\u2014great to be with you again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He and his wife Nancy live in Southern California. He is one of the senior pastors of a church that he joined, not long after it was founded by others\u2014North Coast Church\u2014which has 11,000 members in Vista, California\u2014which that has to be a massive influence there in that community. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s interesting\u2014we\u2019re so post-Christian in our culture\u2014that you ask a lot of people, \u201cHey, where\u2019s North Coast Church?\u201d\u00a0 They go: \u201cI don\u2019t know. I\u2019ve never heard of it.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s a different day and age. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, Dennis was talking earlier about Matthew 5\u2014the command to be salt and light. It feels like, maybe, 30 or 40 years ago, we were more light. Today, it feels like we\u2019re more like salt. We\u2019re doing more preserving than illuminating in the culture today, just given where we are in the culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you think that\u2019s right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>I think there is a lot of truth in that. I\u2019d never thought of that before; but that\u2019s a great <em>word<\/em> picture because part of what happens is\u2014sometimes, we are not doing as good a job of being the light that we should, but also, our culture is not as interested. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>So, now, we\u2019ve got to do the <em>real<\/em> hard work of actually getting into the community \/ into the community organizations and infiltrating in a way that we can bear the name of Jesus in a very favorable way for people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You have written a book called <em>Thriving in Babylon<\/em>. It\u2019s subtitled <em>Why Hope, Humility, and Wisdom Matter in a Godless Culture<\/em>. You tell a story in your book about how\u2014when you were a college student \/ you were in graduate school\u2014with a night crew in a grocery store. You were trying to be a witness, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Trying to be salt and light; weren\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>That\u2019s right; I was. Back then, they called them \u201cJesus freaks.\u201d\u00a0 My life had been turned around 180 degrees. I was so excited about the Lord that what I often did is\u2014I made the mistake of sharing the Christian lifestyle instead of sharing Christ with people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought I\u2019d heard everything in a locker room; but let me just tell you\u2014night crew\u2014that\u2019s <em>way<\/em> <em>more<\/em>\u2014let\u2019s say, \u201cearthy.\u201d So, well, what happened was\u2014I heard people saying things\u2014using my Lord\u2019s name in vain. I would go, and I would try to correct their <em>behavior<\/em>. All I did was get ostracized. They just kind of looked at me and said, \u201cOh, well, that\u2019s the Jesus freak over there.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI found my ability of impact on their lives <em>lessened<\/em> the more I tried to make non-Christians live like Christians instead of simply coming alongside them, loving them, and waiting for them to ask why I was different\u2014which, over the years, was a behavior I\u2019ve learned to have. At that point, I had great impact on the lives of people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There are a lot of our listeners, who are looking at the culture\u2014they are looking at their own lives \/ they\u2019re glancing at their children\u2014and they are thinking about: \u201cI\u2019m sending my kids out into that. They are going to grow up in that. They are going to form their own families in this culture.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI find a lot of confusion among followers of Christ about what they should be doing and how they should approach some of these thorny issues that the culture is raising. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In fact, let me give you some of the alternative strategies for dealing with Babylon; okay?\u2014you know these. Some people say: \u201cHere is how you deal with Babylon\u2014you cloister yourself from Babylon, you insulate yourself from Babylon, and you keep your area as clean and pure as possible. In fact, it needs to be a hothouse because your kids need to grow up in a hothouse experience so that they can have some roots when they get transplanted.\u201d\u00a0 Is there a problem with that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>There is a <em>big<\/em> problem because, if you raise an oak tree for 15\/20 years in a hothouse, then, put it out, and see if it\u2019ll survive the winter\u2014it won\u2019t survive. When we kind of move into our holy huddle, we think we have impact; but we have impact kind of like the Amish community does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve pulled themselves back \/ live in another time. Tourists go there to eat their food and buy their furniture; but nobody says: \u201cWow! This is how I want to live.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s what happens to us when we live a different life in\u2014what I like to call\u2014a holy huddle. People will look at us\u2014they might admire certain traits about us; but at the end of the day, it\u2019s like the tourist, checking out and saying, \u201cYou know, that\u2019s a really cool trait, but I don\u2019t want it in my life.\u201d\u00a0 You have to incarnate. That\u2019s what our Lord Jesus did\u2014He came <em>into<\/em> a world instead of shouting from outside. God could have just as well have done that\u2014just said: \u201cHey. Listen. Here\u2019s my speech\u2014follow it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cI\u2019m not going to get polluted with your evil culture. I\u2019m just going to stand outside here and shout at you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re talking with Larry Osborne, who has written a book called <em>Thriving in Babylon: Why Hope, Humility, and Wisdom Matter in a Godless Culture<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s another scenario\u2014it\u2019s one, where it says: \u201cWe must infiltrate the power bases in the culture,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014whether it\u2019s politics, or the entertainment industry, or corporate America, or the educational institution\u2014\u201cWe have got to infiltrate and stand up for what we believe in those power bases in order to win the culture back.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>I think there is a seed of truth to that\u2014if by infiltrate, we mean get involved, and be a part, and raise up\u2014that\u2019s exactly what Daniel did. Daniel was asked to study the occult for three years. He didn\u2019t sit in the back and roll his eyes. He sat in the front row, took copious notes, and with the help of God, graduated number one in his class. Then, compared with all the previous graduates, was ten times smarter\u2014along with his three buddies\u2014than the rest of them. That\u2019s what got him a really good gig in Nebuchadnezzar\u2019s royal court. Then, he served Nebuchadnezzar so well that he kept getting promoted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, nobody promotes somebody that\u2019s not serving them <em>well<\/em> or that has a distain that they just kind of carry. So, I think there is a sense\u2014but we don\u2019t infiltrate to argue \/ we don\u2019t infiltrate to be negative\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we infiltrate to earn the right to be heard. From <em>that<\/em> position, we can have <em>huge<\/em>, <em>huge<\/em> influence; but we better not have a chip on our shoulder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, as I look at young families today, starting out, it seems to me that moms and dads really have to take a step back and do an analysis and an inventory of their own spiritual maturity. I mean, we\u2019re looking at sending our children into this culture; and we, rightly so, should be concerned, and be wise, and be shrewd about how we engage. But I think it\u2019s so important for parents to be modeling what they are teaching to their children. You can\u2019t rush past modeling to get to the lecture. If you do, the lecture\u2019s never going to get heard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Absolutely. I\u2019m an old youth pastor, and one of the things that I learned\u2014it was a bit discouraging\u2014but it didn\u2019t matter what a kid was like in our youth group. Ten years later, he was much more likely to be like his parents than what he was in the youth ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, at the end of the day, parents have to realize that what they <em>model<\/em> is what their kids are going to catch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Yes, there are exceptions to it; but if I were to take a hundred young Christian kids in Christian families, 95 to 98 of them, at 30\/at 40 years old, are going to have the same values their parents did. But what I often find out is\u2014they\u2019ll have the same values but a slightly different behavior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if the parent modeled: \u201cYou can lie to the IRS. You can lie to somebody by saying, \u2018I\u2019m not home,\u2019 because you don\u2019t want to answer that phone call instead of facing it,\u201d\u2014what the kid will say is: \u201cYou can lie about what party you were at. You can lie about what you were doing.\u201d\u00a0 And kids always know <em>way<\/em> more about their parents than the parents ever know. They are just <em>much<\/em> more observant than we think. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if I could wave a magic wand into every Christian family, I would simply have people walk in obedience to Jesus Christ. I could tell them: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou know what?\u00a0 You might never have family devotions \/ you might never go on a family vacation\u2014you might break <em>every<\/em> rule that, at the marriage conference, you are told to do to have a good family; and if you really walk with Jesus the way you are supposed to walk, you have <em>incredibly<\/em> high odds that that\u2019s what your kids are going to be like when they grow up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And if you do make a mistake, perhaps, consider using the mistake as an opportunity to teach your children. I\u2019ll never forget travelling across the fine state of Oklahoma with a van, and we had six kids. We were rolling down the road just a little too fast. One of the fine state patrolmen for the state of Oklahoma pulled me over and asked me to come back into the squad car. I went back there, and all of my kids\u2019 faces were in the back window. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I got back in the car, they said, \u201cHey, Dad, what was he doing?\u2014asking for you to autograph a book?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, children, he was asking for an autograph, but not for one of my books.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI just need to tell you I\u2019m sorry I was breaking the law, and there is a consequence when you break the law.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I remember some of those moments very vividly of when I did things that were wrong in front of my kids. When I was convicted of it, I tried to do my best to get down on a knee, or look eyeball-to-eyeball with a child or with a group of my children, and say, \u201cDaddy was wrong when he\u2026\u201d \u201cYou know, the way Dad spoke to Mom in that situation\u2014we disagreed, but I shouldn\u2019t have spoken to her like <em>that<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I think, as parents, we don\u2019t lose credibility in those moments because we\u2019re going to make all kinds of mistakes in our lifetime; but invite your children into your errors so that you can teach them how to repent, later on, when they make a mistake, and how to reconcile with another because they are going to need to ask for forgiveness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDon\u2019t you think that\u2019s important today for our young people?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014to be catching their parents\u2014not only doing something right\u2014but if they do find them doing something wrong, to see how the parent is handling it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes, I think that makes a <em>huge<\/em> impact upon our children. As I said a moment ago, they <em>know<\/em> far more than we think they know. So, at the end of the day, trying to hide information from them or even trying to hide difficulties you are going through\u2014I remember when my wife had cancer, and it looked really bad like she might not survive\u2014by the grace of God, she\u2019s doing fine\u2014but my kids were young then. They said, \u201cCould Mommy die?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cYes, Mommy could die.\u201d And bringing them along\u2014there were financial situations we faced \/ there were pastor-in-a-church difficulties\u2014without creating this cynicism or giving too much information. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think one of the best things that Nancy and I did with our kids is\u2014we assumed that they knew more than we thought, and we just brought them along\u2014so all the way to telling them,:\u201cWe made a mistake here,\u201d or \u201cWe did wrong,\u201d or \u201cWe sinned here,\u201d to simply taking them on the journey because every experience is a chance for them to figure out how to respond. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInvite them in rather than paint this image out there of something that\u2019s not really us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, one of the things that has always fascinated me about how Daniel lived in Babylon\u2014and the reason why are talking about this is because the title of the book you wrote is called <em>Thriving in Babylon<\/em>\u2014and you look at the principles from the life of Daniel. One of the things that has fascinated me is he was quick to offer a creative alternative rather than just saying, \u201cI won\u2019t do that.\u201d He would go in and say, \u201cWould this be acceptable if I did this instead?\u201d\u00a0 That worked for him on a number of occasions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>The most famous one is in the first chapter, when he was asked to eat a non-Kosher diet. He was so respectful to the chief eunuch; and he says, \u201cIs there any way\u2026?\u201d\u00a0 And the guy says: \u201cI\u2019d love to do it, but you don\u2019t understand how bloodthirsty the king is. I can\u2019t do it.\u201d\u00a0 Then, he goes down the food chain to the guard\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and with the same respect\u2014it\u2019s a ten-day test. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you can read between the lines at the end of the ten days. He said\u2014this was a God-thing\u2014\u201cNo, I\u2019m not going to do it. I am willing to starve to death or take the consequences,\u201d but he doesn\u2019t wave that. He just quietly and very respectfully searched for alternatives, which we can do when a school district wants us to take a class we don\u2019t want our kids to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, when you go in respectful to people, they usually respond respectfully. When you go in and say: \u201cWell, can I have a change?\u00a0 If not, here\u2019s my lawyer,\u201d well, immediately, they are going to get defensive because that\u2019s exactly how we behave. We forget\u2014non-Christians are just like us. If you treat me with disrespect, my wall is going to go up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if I would just take a mirror to the school, the local little league, the soccer club\u2014all the places where the world\u2019s going to come into our lives\u2014if I would just take a mirror and say, \u201cWell, how would I respond if that person was coming to me, wanting to get out of some Christian thing I was imposing on them?\u201d\u2014and act that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, let me ask you\u2014and this will put you on the spot again\u2014but let\u2019s say there is a person in your church, who bakes wedding cakes or who does photography for weddings. They come and they say, \u201cPastor, I\u2019ve just been asked to bake a wedding cake for the gay wedding\u2014should I do that or not?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>I always like to step away from the issue. So, I would ask the question, \u201cWell, if you were a landlord, and a gay couple wanted to come and rent your place, would you rent it to them?\u201d\u00a0 And almost everybody says: \u201cWell, I have to. That\u2019s the law.\u201d\u00a0 Well, \u201cBake their cake,\u201d is frankly is my number-one mindset. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the Christian community, one of our mistakes is\u2014we\u2019ve made one sin bigger than another sin\u2014because a couple that\u2019s cohabitating: \u201cOh, yes, I\u2019ll make a birthday cake for you.\u201d\u00a0 Okay; why?\u00a0 So, I think that\u2019s where Daniel was amazing. Daniel understood the things that made him <em>uncomfortable<\/em> and the things that God <em>forbid<\/em> and that there was a difference. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you know the argument on the other side, which they\u2019ll say: \u201cThe cohabitating couple\u2014I\u2019m not participating in a rite before God. I mean, a wedding\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s go back, again. I love to step out of this situation because it helps to see the principle. \u201cWould you lease an apartment room to them?\u00a0 Would you, if you had some rental houses?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWell, yes,\u201d\u2014well, you\u2019re participating in their living together. And so, at the end of the day, lots of people, who are very up in arms, don\u2019t even know what their company supports or what\u2019s done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I keep going back to Daniel. Nebuchadnezzar was godless\u2014he attacked the Temple, he profaned the Temple, and he stole things from the Temple. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes, Daniel treated him with respect. He would not sin, but he had to be uncomfortable when he was called Belshazzar, which means Baal\u2019s prince. So, your name is changed from \u201cGod is my judge,\u201d to \u201cSatan\u2019s prince.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to press this one more time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Let say somebody in the congregation says: \u201cI don\u2019t feel, by conscience, I can take the pictures at this wedding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cShould I violate my conscious and do that?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>No. I think, at the end of the day, though, you don\u2019t have to wear all the reasons. I get people asking me\u2014they are inviting\u2014I don\u2019t tell everybody, when I\u2019m invited to something, why I can\u2019t make it. I think sometimes we wear it as almost a badge of honor to be confrontational in situations where confrontation is not really going to bring out any particularly good result. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, when do we say: \u201cOkay, line drawn in the sand here\u2014I\u2019m not going to do this, even if you take away my liberties, or if you take away my life\u201d?\u00a0 Do you do that if you are in Iran and they say, \u201cDon\u2019t talk about Jesus\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>I think that any time we are told to sin, we have to say, \u201cWho am I going to obey\u2014God or man?\u201d\u00a0 But again, many of the issues that we really deal with\u2014not the theoretical ones\u2014so, our listeners, as parents, and families, and in the cubical workplace they are in, or whatever it would be\u2014these aren\u2019t really the issues \/ they are matters of taste. And at the end of the day, I go:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u201cIt\u2019s okay to be <em>uncomfortable<\/em>. It\u2019s not okay to participate and sin yourself.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. Dennis, I know this is an area where some Christians disagree with other Christians. We continue to dialogue and sharpen iron on this kind of an issue and give grace to one another; don\u2019t we?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we have to think these things through. I was thinking of James, \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChapter 1\u2014just in terms of how we respond to other people. It says in verse 19: \u201cKnow this my beloved brothers. Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness that God requires.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have to confess here\u2014this day in which we live has really helped me evaluate checking my anger at the door and being real careful about what I say and how I say it as never before. And I think, in the past\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I\u2019ve said this before on this broadcast\u2014I would have made a very good Pharisee. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Wouldn\u2019t we all?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, I would have made\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You wrote the book, <em>Accidental Pharisees<\/em>; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes, because every Pharisee gets there accidentally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, I think, as we think about the things that do make us angry, I think it\u2019s okay to be angry; but I think when we start taking that anger out on people and at people, we\u2019ve got to really be careful and think about\u2014again, a verse like that\u2014\u201cThe anger of man does not achieve the righteousness that God requires.\u201d And very, very important that we, as followers of Christ, leave the aroma of Christ with the people with whom we are interacting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes, there\u2019s a similar passage in 2 Timothy, Chapter 2, verses 24-26, I believe, which he talks about the Lord\u2019s bondservant must be\u2014and it talks about gentle, kind\u2014and he names all of these characteristics\u2014then, at the end: \u201c\u2026so that we may be able to rescue those who have been held captive to do Satan\u2019s will.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a description of how you and I are to respond, not to the non-Christian, but the one who is leading the parade of Satan\u2019s agenda\u2014even <em>they<\/em> are worthy\u2014it says \u201c\u2026kind to everyone.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, that may be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Everyone is everyone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, that may be the text that I have read more often this year than any other text just because I keep coming back to \u201c\u2026must be kind, must be compassionate, must not be quarrelsome, must be patient with all\u2026\u201d and I go: \u201cOkay, this is a good reminder. I need to hear this.\u201d\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>And that is what keeps jumping out at me is\u2014\u201cto everyone\u201d\u2014and I keep trying to find\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014a loophole. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>\u2014a loophole. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I just want to read that last part of that verse you just quoted: \u201c\u2026that they may escape from the snare of the devil after being captured by him to do his will.\u201d\u00a0 If a person doesn\u2019t know Christ, they\u2019re <em>ensnared<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Larry: <\/strong>Yes, and they are doing <em>his<\/em> will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They are enslaved to sin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe issue for us is\u2014we can\u2019t be a slave to sin. <em>We<\/em> have to be a bondservant of Jesus Christ. That means we need to be imitating Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I\u2019ll just tell you\u2014I\u2019ve been spending a lot of time in the Gospels in the past year, just looking at how Christ responded to broken people caught in sinful behavior or caught in circumstances\u2014some of which they have been a part of and some of which they had done nothing to deserve\u2014Jesus was the premier example, for all of us, that we are to imitate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s a new day. I think we\u2019ve got to acknowledge we are living in a different time than we were living 20 years ago. We better have a new strategy and a new way of thinking about how we are going to approach the day we are living in. And that is what you\u2019ve outlined, Larry, in the book that you\u2019ve written called <em>Thriving in Babylon: Why Hope, Humility, and Wisdom Matter in a Godless Culture<\/em>. It\u2019d be a great book for people to go through in a small group or with other friends or family members\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014talk about how we engage with this culture in a way that is winsome, and is kind, and yet stands for truth. The book, again, is called <em>Thriving in Babylon<\/em>. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and order a copy by phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, the rest of this week, Russell Moore is going to be joining us. He\u2019s written a book on this subject called <em>Onward: Engaging the Culture without Losing the Gospel<\/em>. And we\u2019ve got that book in our <em>FamilyLife<\/em> <em>Today<\/em> Resource Center as well. So, get more information about either or both books. Order them online; or call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I think this conversation is really urgent and practical. These are the kinds of issues we are having to figure out how to handle, day in and day out, in a variety of settings\u2014whether it\u2019s in our workplaces, in our communities, wherever we are going\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we have to ask the question, \u201cHow do we represent Christ well here?\u201d especially, if it is with people who don\u2019t share our worldview. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I just want to take a minute here and say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to the listeners who make these kinds of conversations possible\u2014those of you who are supporters of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, either as Legacy Partners \/ giving each month or those of you who will, from time to time, get in touch with us to make a donation. <br><br>We just heard from a number of folks at the end of 2015, who said, \u201cWe believe in what <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is doing, and we\u2019re grateful and we want to make a contribution.\u201d\u00a0 And you just need to know how encouraging that was to us\u2014to hear from all of you at the end of the year\u2014thanks for your giving during the month of December. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, the need continues, week in and week out, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. 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