{"id":303762,"date":"2015-12-01T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-12-01T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/god-at-work-in-china\/"},"modified":"2015-12-01T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-12-01T17:00:00","slug":"god-at-work-in-china","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/god-at-work-in-china\/","title":{"rendered":"God at Work in China"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jed Renfroe, a missionary in China, talks about the rapid spread of Christianity there. 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Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTuesday, December 1<sup>st<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey. I'm Bob Lepine. We are taking a little bit of a different look at Christmas this week\u2014expanding our vision with a little bit of a global look at Christmas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got your wife, Barbara, who is joining us again on the program today. Welcome, Barbara.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you, sir.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And part of the reason we\u2019re looking globally is because this has been on your heart, really, for a long time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. Yes, we\u2019ve been, for the last three years, creating Christmas ornaments that help families focus on Jesus at Christmas, which is a novel idea; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> This year, what we wanted to do was\u2014we wanted to help families, not just focus on Jesus at Christmas, but help families think about the fact that Jesus came for the whole world\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not just for America or for a country in the West in which you might happen to live\u2014but to think about other countries \/ to think about other parts of this globe for whom Jesus died. So, we\u2019ve got a set of ornaments this year in five different languages. On the back of each ornament is a description about that people group who speak that language and a suggested prayer that we might, as a family, engage, in thinking about other peoples for whom Jesus came. Jesus came at Christmas, and it wasn\u2019t just for us\u2014it was for the whole world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you thought about the languages to use\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because only five ornaments\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and there are hundreds\u2014I don\u2019t know exactly. How many languages are there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember, but there are a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So how did you narrow it down to the five you picked?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> We chose the top four languages \/ spoken languages in the world other than English.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> So English was disqualified.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you\u2019ve got Spanish.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Spanish, Mandarin, Russian, and we chose Arabic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Then the fifth language group is Hebrew because that\u2019s the language that Jesus spoke. So we included Hebrew, even though it\u2019s not in the top language groups.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And your thought was these ornaments can actually spark some conversation. Moms and dads can use these for education \/ for discipleship; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, you can. And, you know, it\u2019s just such a wonderful thing to be able to have a meaningful conversation at Christmas. What these ornaments allow you to do is to talk about a country that we, really, probably don\u2019t know much about\u2014to look it up on the map \/ maybe to do some research online\u2014but to think about the people in these countries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, the country of China and the language of Mandarin\u2014it is spoken by more people than any other language on the globe. Yet, how much do we know about Mandarin-speaking people? Yet, Jesus came for them when He came at Christmas too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt helps us, I think, to expand our understanding of the Christmas season and the holiday and why we celebrate the fact that Jesus was sent to earth for all people when we think about other people groups besides our own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Many of these countries we hear about on the evening news and we read about in the newspaper or online. Some of them are described as enemies. Yet, we\u2019re commanded, by the Bible, to go to the world and proclaim Jesus Christ to all people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what this does, Bob, is it takes our eyes off of us versus them and realize that a follower of Jesus Christ is a citizen of an eternal kingdom; and he must be about the King\u2019s mission. That means we need to be training our children how to think about those from China and, of course, now, in the Middle East\u2014Arabic-speaking folks who are making news all of the time for some of the horrific things that they\u2019re doing to people, even killing Christians.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, how are we to respond? We should have a desire to proclaim John 3:16 to the people of all these countries and all of these nations\u2014of every tribe and every tongue around the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We thought it would be a good idea for our listeners to get a perspective on what\u2019s going on around the world from somebody who is living in another part of the world. We\u2019ve got a guy who is with us on the phone today. As soon as our listeners hear him, they\u2019re not going to believe that he\u2019s been living in Asia for the last 20 years because he still sounds like he comes from Alabama\u2014and he does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis name is Jed Renfroe. I should mention here, Dennis, that that\u2019s not actually his real name. We can\u2019t share his real name on the program because of the work he\u2019s doing in Asia.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He has been in Asia since 1992. They have two children, who are on their way to college. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would like to welcome you to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and also\u2014say, \u201cHi,\u201d to my wife, Barbara.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Good to be here! Good to talk with all y\u2019all!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s great to have you on the broadcast, Jed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have given much of your adult life to reaching people of another tongue \/ of other customs\u2014a massive nation of over 1.2 billion people\u2014I believe that\u2019s where it is right now. What led you to go overseas to China in the first place?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, actually, it goes back to when I was 15 and hearing a missionary speak and just saying, \u201cWould you go?\u201d The Lord just kept pressing that question on my heart. He kind of placed a vision on my heart of that part of China. That\u2019s guided me since I was 15.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was your initial mission that you went on? You went to Mongolia first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, I went into the country of Mongolia. It had just come out of Communism\u2014dominated by the Soviet Union. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was in there on the spearhead of bringing the gospel to people who had never, ever heard the word of Jesus before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you speak the language?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> No, we went in there and I learned it there in the country. Necessity is the mother of invention. When you\u2019ve got to speak to eat, you learn to speak pretty quickly. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And your wife was also in Mongolia; correct?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, she was. She actually came nine months after me. We both had gone as single missionaries, just dedicated to being there as long as the Lord wanted us. We\u2019re still amazed that He brought us both together in Mongolia. She\u2019s from Oklahoma originally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s fascinating. So you both learned the language together and you learned the culture together. You started a family over there. Is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. In fact, we were married in the culture\u2014had their civil ceremony\u2014and then a missionary performed the Christian ceremony. We had the first Christian wedding service in Mongolia.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jed, share with our listeners a little bit what the experience is of the gospel in Asia\u2014in China, in particular\u2014as you have been interacting with both Mongols and with Chinese. Is there a significant underground church happening? Is there an above-ground church starting to appear? What\u2019s going on in China?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in China, you can kind of think of it in two ways\u2014one is with the Han, that\u2019s the majority\u2014that\u2019s what we call the Chinese. There is a <em>very<\/em> significant church movement going on in China. We call it the underground\u2014the house church or the underground church. You have registered churches as well, but the biggest is the underground church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you have the minorities of China. There is a movement of God among the minorities of China, hearing the gospel for the first time. It\u2019s not as pervasive as it is among the ethnic Chinese, but it is beginning to take root and spread rapidly in China.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If we were to attend a house church, how would that be different than the Sunday morning service that we\u2019re used to, here in the United States?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, of course, it has many of the elements we\u2019re used to\u2014I mean, you know, prayer, and preaching of the Word, and giving of our offerings. But I think some of the primary differences are you\u2019re in a smaller setting\u2014a house, or a building, or a restaurant some place. You\u2019re singing with passion; but you\u2019re singing with low tones because, if you get loud, then you\u2019re going to draw a lot of attention to yourself and the neighbors could call the police. Then you\u2019d get into all of that trouble. The preaching of God\u2019s Word\u2014it typically runs for about an hour-and-a-half \/ two hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMost people who are listening to this broadcast have <em>no<\/em> idea that a believer\u2014someone who is following Jesus Christ\u2014can be arrested for his or her faith. What would be the justification for being arrested there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in China\u2014in their constitution, you have freedom of religion\u2014it\u2019s stated. So, they would initially say that it\u2019s not <em>for<\/em> your religion\u2014it\u2019s because \u201cWe\u2019ve determined, as a country of China, you need to worship in one of our registered churches.\u201d That would be one of the primary things that they would come in after the house churches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And would there be something wrong with going to the registered church instead of to the house church?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in registered churches, you find a whole variety of preaching and pastoral skills. Because they\u2019re registered, the government decides who the pastor is going to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, I\u2019ve been to some registered churches, where it\u2019s pretty clear, in talking with the pastor, that he most likely is not even a believer. But the other good thing that happens\u2014that \u201cpastor\u201d of the registered church\u2014all he cared about was his monthly salary\u2014so the associate pastor, who was very evangelical, did all of the preaching.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of the government churches, also, would have somebody in there who is designated to spying and report back to the government on who is attending and what\u2019s going on. As I said, everything you hear is true somewhere in China\u2014nothing is true everywhere. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Good point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So when I say that, I mean some of the registered churches are very evangelistic. They\u2019re just putting everything on the line and saying: \u201cAlright! Come and close us up if you want to.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> You know, Jeb, I think our listeners are curious, just as I\u2019ve always been curious: \u201cWhat is Christmas like in other parts of the world?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cDo Christians in China\u2014in the East and in countries you\u2019ve been in\u2014do they celebrate Christmas in any way at all like we do, here in the States?\u201d I think that it would be good for us to hear that because Jesus came for the whole world. So I would be very curious\/ very interested to hear how the people that you know in Asia celebrate Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in society of China, it\u2019s interesting\u2014they have adopted the decoration \/ the celebration of December 25<sup>th<\/sup> and December 24<sup>th<\/sup> as a holiday and of Christmas. They\u2019ll have a Santa Claus out and all of that; but interestingly, in the stores, you will hear Christian Christmas praise songs being played right out in the stores with the lyrics. Of course, they are in English\u2014so a lot of people don\u2019t understand what is being said! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the schools will want to know, \u201cHow do you celebrate Christmas?\u201d So it\u2019s one of the primary times we can get into the schools. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne school\u2014the principal said: \u201cWe want you to come and tell us three things: \u2018What is Christmas? Who is Jesus? and What does Jesus mean to you?\u2019 We\u2019re going to have all 1,000 of our students there so we can understand the American culture of Christmas.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Christians\u2014they plan events. Usually, their celebration of Christmas is on Christmas Eve. They plan events where each member of that church \/ of that local church is inviting somebody, who\u2019s not a believer, to come with them. They see it as a primary time to communicate the joy and the new life of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Do the Christians that you know\u2014those who are believers in Christ\u2014do any decorating for Christmas in their homes for these Christmas Eve celebrations?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are there even Christmas trees in China?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, yes, they\u2019ve adopted the Christmas tree primarily because all of our Christmas trees are manufactured in China. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes!! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s pretty obvious; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So you could get the Christmas tree and the lights\u2014they like that decoration there! The Christians have gotten to where they like to decorate the tree and, then, they like something that has symbolism\u2014for the minority, something from their culture \/ for the Han, something from their particular culture\u2014that would symbolize something about Christ, similar to Chrismons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, and what might that be? What kind of symbols would you see hanging on a Christmas tree?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, with the Mongols, they live in the round tent structures\u2014it represents hospitality. So they will buy\u2014make or buy\u2014a little small Mongol <em>ger<\/em> they\u2019re called\u2014these little round tents. They\u2019ll hang them on their tree as ornaments to symbolize how Christ gives us \/ surrounds us and makes us into a home. It provides the hospitality, just as the Mongols do on the grasslands. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ll have little sheep \/ some kind of little symbol of sheep because they\u2019re a shepherd people\u2014how Jesus is our Shepherd and Jesus finds the lost sheep. These are just some examples of what the Mongols do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jed, I\u2019d be interested in knowing, \u201cHow do you pronounce the Mandarin name of Jesus?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> In Mandarin, it\u2019s \u201cYAY-su\u201d; and in Mongolian, it is \u201cYay-SU.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As we think about what God is doing in Asia, and particularly in China\u2014again, I know that\u2019s where you\u2019re investing your life\u2014you and your wife being there\u2014raising your kids there\u2014how can we be praying for the work of the gospel in China?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> I think, with the Mongols, I would ask you to pray for\u2014we call our \u201cMongol son.\u201d He\u2019s been a part of our family for the past 12 years\u2014we raised him in our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s now about 27, but we\u2019ve been away from him for the past five years. In these past five years, he has been responsible for starting another 140-170 churches across inner Mongolia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s impressive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> He is traveling like Paul\u2014and seeing Mongol believers \/ gathering them into a church\u2014evangelizing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So I would say pray earnestly for <em>him<\/em>. Their one desire is to be faithful to the Word of God and to live a life of obedience that is changed by the Word of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There might be\u2014a young man, maybe he\u2019s 15, maybe he is younger or a little older \/ or a young lady, who\u2019s listening to us right now\u2014and they may be sensing the stirring of God in their soul to invest their life in a foreign country\u2014maybe it\u2019s not Mongolia or China. What would you say to that young man \/ that young lady? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, Jed, I\u2019m saying, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you throw down the gauntlet and give them a challenge?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, I would just say to you: \u201cYou want your life to count for <em>something<\/em>, and God wants to make your life <em>extraordinary<\/em> for Him. Don\u2019t be worrying about the what-ifs and what\u2019s going to happen in the future. Will you just lay your life out there and say, \u2018God, whatever You want me to do \/ wherever You want me to go, I\u2019ll go\u2019? If you will do that, you will see Him impact the world through you as He displays His glory through you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what I\u2019m hearing you say is\u2014you\u2019d do it again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Absolutely! Absolutely! In fact, I have to tell you\u2014one of the blessings God gave me recently was to hear my 19-year-old daughter\u2014she is going to be a junior in university\u2014she said just last year, in speaking to other young people\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014she said, \u201cI didn\u2019t enjoy the struggles I went through; but had I not gone through those struggles, there are depths of God\u2019s joy and peace I would not know.\u201d Now that\u2019s worth it all right there!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Indeed!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It sure is!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I want you to know that Barbara and I admire you\u2014your faith, your courage, your faithfulness, your perseverance. Thank you for following our Savior\u2019s orders and for being a good gospel soldier in a far-away country. Please pass along our greetings and our appreciation to your wife and your daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Thank you! Thank you for your encouragement; but, to be honest, we don\u2019t deserve any accolades because all we\u2019re doing is being obedient to what He\u2019s directing. He\u2019s the One who deserves all the glory for what He\u2019s accomplished.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Indeed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, he does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> And I apologize; but I\u2019ve lost my Southern drawl\u2014I haven\u2019t lived over there for 23 years. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m just sitting here, wondering, \u201cDo you think Mandarin sounds different with a Southern accent than it sounds if you have a Yankee accent or something?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just wonder how he\u2019s managed to remain in Mongolia?\u2014how many guys from Alabama are in Mongolia?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. But once again, the thought that a family could hear what we\u2019ve talked about today and then, at the dinner table tonight or tomorrow, you sit down and say, \u201cHere\u2019s the name of Jesus in Mandarin.\u201d Of course, your kids aren\u2019t going to recognize\u2014the letters don\u2019t look anything like\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No, they\u2019re not letters\u2014they\u2019re characters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They\u2019re Chinese characters\u2014so they\u2019ll see that. And you flip it over on the back, you talk about God\u2019s work among the Chinese people. In fact, you\u2019ve got it right there, Dennis. What\u2019s it say on the back of the ornament?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It says, \u201cChristianity has spread rapidly among over one billion Mandarin Chinese-speaking people of China. Centuries of missions work by courageous men and women, such as Hudson and Maria Taylor, have set the example for thousands today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, Barbara quotes Romans 10:15: \u201cHow beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, I\u2019m just thinking here of a child, looking at this, and holding this in his or her hands. God may be speaking to a child, as they hang this on a tree, and look at that name, and think about over a billion people and where God\u2019s at work. Many believe there are more Christians in China than there are in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve heard more than 100,000,000 people who profess Christ are living in China. Of course, we\u2019ve got listeners here, who have children in their home who were born in China.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, we do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To be able to have one of these ornaments on your tree\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014from their native country, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and tell them about their country\u2014how thrilling is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. We thought about that as we created these ornaments\u2014how fun that would be for a family with adopted children to be able to have something that says, \u201cJesus,\u201d in their native tongue. And even for those of us that don\u2019t have children from those countries\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014just to be able to begin to recognize the name of Jesus in Mandarin, to recognize it in Russian, to recognize it in Arabic. I just think that\u2019s really good for our souls \/ I think it is good for our perspective of the gospel\u2014that Jesus came, at Christmas, for the whole world. It\u2019s a reminder that He came for the whole world\u2014not just for me, and my family, and my country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This whole idea was dreamed up by her\u2014kind of a burden, I think, God put on her heart, more than 25 years ago, as she looked at all the Santa Clauses, and reindeer, and candy canes and said, \u201cWhy isn\u2019t there something that, isn\u2019t just symbolic of the Christian faith, but that truly does proclaim Christ on our trees and to others who come into our homes?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are now 26 names that she\u2019s created\u2014the first year with the \u201cChristmas Names\u201d from Luke and Isaiah. Year two was \u201cHis Royal Names\u201d in the shape of different crowns. Last year was \u201cHis Savior Names\u201d in different crosses from different continents\/ different eras of history. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI promise you\u2014by the time people are filling their tree with these ornaments, they will have studied a lot about Jesus and about His work among different people around the world in ways they\u2019ve never done it before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, if people would like to see what the Adorenaments<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> look like\u2014from year one, year two, year three, the current year\u2014that\u2019s easy to do. Go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click on the link for Ever Thine Home<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and see the Adorenaments that are available. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order over the phone\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, when you get your tree set up, and you\u2019ve got the ornaments on it, take a picture and send it to us; will you? We\u2019d love to see the different trees throughout the country that are proclaiming the name of Jesus at Christmastime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I know at our house, one of the things that happens\u2014as the Christmas season comes along\u2014is that Mary Ann and I start to talk about yearend giving. We have just made it a practice\u2014a part of the rhythm of life\u2014that in the month of December, we pull back and we talk about different organizations\/ministries that have had an impact in our lives over the previous year. We consider making a special yearend financial gift in support of those ministries. We always start with our local church because that\u2019s where we think giving ought to begin. Then, as we have the opportunity, we consider other ministries that God has used in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know if that is something you do at your home or not; but I do know that a lot of our listeners, each year, consider making a yearend contribution in support of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> The reality is\u2014we depend on those yearend contributions. More than one-third of the revenue we need to operate the ministry comes in during the month of December.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo hearing from you this month is vital for us. The good news is that we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry, who have come to us recently, and they are providing us with a little additional incentive to encourage you to make a yearend contribution. Whatever donation you send in, between now and the end of December, these friends are going to <em>match<\/em> that with an additional donation that is twice as much as whatever you give. So, if you give a $50 donation, these friends are going to add an addition $100 to that\u2014we will wind up with $150 donated to FamilyLife. They\u2019ve capped this matching gift at \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t$2 million. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, to take full advantage of it, we\u2019d like to ask you to make a donation today. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com or call 1-800-FLTODAY and support the ministry of FamilyLife, knowing that your donation is going to, effectively, be tripled when you support this ministry today. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation over the phone; or you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue to look at how Christmas is celebrated all around the world. We\u2019ll head to Ecuador tomorrow. 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[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> This year, what we wanted to do was\u2014we wanted to help families, not just focus on Jesus at Christmas, but help families think about the fact that Jesus came for the whole world\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not just for America or for a country in the West in which you might happen to live\u2014but to think about other countries \/ to think about other parts of this globe for whom Jesus died. So, we\u2019ve got a set of ornaments this year in five different languages. On the back of each ornament is a description about that people group who speak that language and a suggested prayer that we might, as a family, engage, in thinking about other peoples for whom Jesus came. Jesus came at Christmas, and it wasn\u2019t just for us\u2014it was for the whole world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you thought about the languages to use\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because only five ornaments\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and there are hundreds\u2014I don\u2019t know exactly. How many languages are there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember, but there are a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So how did you narrow it down to the five you picked?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> We chose the top four languages \/ spoken languages in the world other than English.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> So English was disqualified.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you\u2019ve got Spanish.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Spanish, Mandarin, Russian, and we chose Arabic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Then the fifth language group is Hebrew because that\u2019s the language that Jesus spoke. So we included Hebrew, even though it\u2019s not in the top language groups.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And your thought was these ornaments can actually spark some conversation. Moms and dads can use these for education \/ for discipleship; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, you can. And, you know, it\u2019s just such a wonderful thing to be able to have a meaningful conversation at Christmas. What these ornaments allow you to do is to talk about a country that we, really, probably don\u2019t know much about\u2014to look it up on the map \/ maybe to do some research online\u2014but to think about the people in these countries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, the country of China and the language of Mandarin\u2014it is spoken by more people than any other language on the globe. Yet, how much do we know about Mandarin-speaking people? Yet, Jesus came for them when He came at Christmas too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt helps us, I think, to expand our understanding of the Christmas season and the holiday and why we celebrate the fact that Jesus was sent to earth for all people when we think about other people groups besides our own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Many of these countries we hear about on the evening news and we read about in the newspaper or online. Some of them are described as enemies. Yet, we\u2019re commanded, by the Bible, to go to the world and proclaim Jesus Christ to all people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what this does, Bob, is it takes our eyes off of us versus them and realize that a follower of Jesus Christ is a citizen of an eternal kingdom; and he must be about the King\u2019s mission. That means we need to be training our children how to think about those from China and, of course, now, in the Middle East\u2014Arabic-speaking folks who are making news all of the time for some of the horrific things that they\u2019re doing to people, even killing Christians.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, how are we to respond? We should have a desire to proclaim John 3:16 to the people of all these countries and all of these nations\u2014of every tribe and every tongue around the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We thought it would be a good idea for our listeners to get a perspective on what\u2019s going on around the world from somebody who is living in another part of the world. We\u2019ve got a guy who is with us on the phone today. As soon as our listeners hear him, they\u2019re not going to believe that he\u2019s been living in Asia for the last 20 years because he still sounds like he comes from Alabama\u2014and he does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis name is Jed Renfroe. I should mention here, Dennis, that that\u2019s not actually his real name. We can\u2019t share his real name on the program because of the work he\u2019s doing in Asia.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He has been in Asia since 1992. They have two children, who are on their way to college. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would like to welcome you to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and also\u2014say, \u201cHi,\u201d to my wife, Barbara.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Good to be here! Good to talk with all y\u2019all!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s great to have you on the broadcast, Jed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have given much of your adult life to reaching people of another tongue \/ of other customs\u2014a massive nation of over 1.2 billion people\u2014I believe that\u2019s where it is right now. What led you to go overseas to China in the first place?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, actually, it goes back to when I was 15 and hearing a missionary speak and just saying, \u201cWould you go?\u201d The Lord just kept pressing that question on my heart. He kind of placed a vision on my heart of that part of China. That\u2019s guided me since I was 15.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was your initial mission that you went on? You went to Mongolia first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, I went into the country of Mongolia. It had just come out of Communism\u2014dominated by the Soviet Union. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was in there on the spearhead of bringing the gospel to people who had never, ever heard the word of Jesus before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you speak the language?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> No, we went in there and I learned it there in the country. Necessity is the mother of invention. When you\u2019ve got to speak to eat, you learn to speak pretty quickly. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And your wife was also in Mongolia; correct?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, she was. She actually came nine months after me. We both had gone as single missionaries, just dedicated to being there as long as the Lord wanted us. We\u2019re still amazed that He brought us both together in Mongolia. She\u2019s from Oklahoma originally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s fascinating. So you both learned the language together and you learned the culture together. You started a family over there. Is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. In fact, we were married in the culture\u2014had their civil ceremony\u2014and then a missionary performed the Christian ceremony. We had the first Christian wedding service in Mongolia.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jed, share with our listeners a little bit what the experience is of the gospel in Asia\u2014in China, in particular\u2014as you have been interacting with both Mongols and with Chinese. Is there a significant underground church happening? Is there an above-ground church starting to appear? What\u2019s going on in China?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in China, you can kind of think of it in two ways\u2014one is with the Han, that\u2019s the majority\u2014that\u2019s what we call the Chinese. There is a <em>very<\/em> significant church movement going on in China. We call it the underground\u2014the house church or the underground church. You have registered churches as well, but the biggest is the underground church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then you have the minorities of China. There is a movement of God among the minorities of China, hearing the gospel for the first time. It\u2019s not as pervasive as it is among the ethnic Chinese, but it is beginning to take root and spread rapidly in China.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If we were to attend a house church, how would that be different than the Sunday morning service that we\u2019re used to, here in the United States?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, of course, it has many of the elements we\u2019re used to\u2014I mean, you know, prayer, and preaching of the Word, and giving of our offerings. But I think some of the primary differences are you\u2019re in a smaller setting\u2014a house, or a building, or a restaurant some place. You\u2019re singing with passion; but you\u2019re singing with low tones because, if you get loud, then you\u2019re going to draw a lot of attention to yourself and the neighbors could call the police. Then you\u2019d get into all of that trouble. The preaching of God\u2019s Word\u2014it typically runs for about an hour-and-a-half \/ two hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMost people who are listening to this broadcast have <em>no<\/em> idea that a believer\u2014someone who is following Jesus Christ\u2014can be arrested for his or her faith. What would be the justification for being arrested there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in China\u2014in their constitution, you have freedom of religion\u2014it\u2019s stated. So, they would initially say that it\u2019s not <em>for<\/em> your religion\u2014it\u2019s because \u201cWe\u2019ve determined, as a country of China, you need to worship in one of our registered churches.\u201d That would be one of the primary things that they would come in after the house churches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And would there be something wrong with going to the registered church instead of to the house church?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in registered churches, you find a whole variety of preaching and pastoral skills. Because they\u2019re registered, the government decides who the pastor is going to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, I\u2019ve been to some registered churches, where it\u2019s pretty clear, in talking with the pastor, that he most likely is not even a believer. But the other good thing that happens\u2014that \u201cpastor\u201d of the registered church\u2014all he cared about was his monthly salary\u2014so the associate pastor, who was very evangelical, did all of the preaching.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of the government churches, also, would have somebody in there who is designated to spying and report back to the government on who is attending and what\u2019s going on. As I said, everything you hear is true somewhere in China\u2014nothing is true everywhere. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Good point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So when I say that, I mean some of the registered churches are very evangelistic. They\u2019re just putting everything on the line and saying: \u201cAlright! Come and close us up if you want to.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> You know, Jeb, I think our listeners are curious, just as I\u2019ve always been curious: \u201cWhat is Christmas like in other parts of the world?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cDo Christians in China\u2014in the East and in countries you\u2019ve been in\u2014do they celebrate Christmas in any way at all like we do, here in the States?\u201d I think that it would be good for us to hear that because Jesus came for the whole world. So I would be very curious\/ very interested to hear how the people that you know in Asia celebrate Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, in society of China, it\u2019s interesting\u2014they have adopted the decoration \/ the celebration of December 25<sup>th<\/sup> and December 24<sup>th<\/sup> as a holiday and of Christmas. They\u2019ll have a Santa Claus out and all of that; but interestingly, in the stores, you will hear Christian Christmas praise songs being played right out in the stores with the lyrics. Of course, they are in English\u2014so a lot of people don\u2019t understand what is being said! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the schools will want to know, \u201cHow do you celebrate Christmas?\u201d So it\u2019s one of the primary times we can get into the schools. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne school\u2014the principal said: \u201cWe want you to come and tell us three things: \u2018What is Christmas? Who is Jesus? and What does Jesus mean to you?\u2019 We\u2019re going to have all 1,000 of our students there so we can understand the American culture of Christmas.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Christians\u2014they plan events. Usually, their celebration of Christmas is on Christmas Eve. They plan events where each member of that church \/ of that local church is inviting somebody, who\u2019s not a believer, to come with them. They see it as a primary time to communicate the joy and the new life of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Do the Christians that you know\u2014those who are believers in Christ\u2014do any decorating for Christmas in their homes for these Christmas Eve celebrations?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are there even Christmas trees in China?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, yes, they\u2019ve adopted the Christmas tree primarily because all of our Christmas trees are manufactured in China. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes!! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s pretty obvious; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So you could get the Christmas tree and the lights\u2014they like that decoration there! The Christians have gotten to where they like to decorate the tree and, then, they like something that has symbolism\u2014for the minority, something from their culture \/ for the Han, something from their particular culture\u2014that would symbolize something about Christ, similar to Chrismons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, and what might that be? What kind of symbols would you see hanging on a Christmas tree?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Well, with the Mongols, they live in the round tent structures\u2014it represents hospitality. So they will buy\u2014make or buy\u2014a little small Mongol <em>ger<\/em> they\u2019re called\u2014these little round tents. They\u2019ll hang them on their tree as ornaments to symbolize how Christ gives us \/ surrounds us and makes us into a home. It provides the hospitality, just as the Mongols do on the grasslands. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ll have little sheep \/ some kind of little symbol of sheep because they\u2019re a shepherd people\u2014how Jesus is our Shepherd and Jesus finds the lost sheep. These are just some examples of what the Mongols do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jed, I\u2019d be interested in knowing, \u201cHow do you pronounce the Mandarin name of Jesus?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> In Mandarin, it\u2019s \u201cYAY-su\u201d; and in Mongolian, it is \u201cYay-SU.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As we think about what God is doing in Asia, and particularly in China\u2014again, I know that\u2019s where you\u2019re investing your life\u2014you and your wife being there\u2014raising your kids there\u2014how can we be praying for the work of the gospel in China?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> I think, with the Mongols, I would ask you to pray for\u2014we call our \u201cMongol son.\u201d He\u2019s been a part of our family for the past 12 years\u2014we raised him in our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s now about 27, but we\u2019ve been away from him for the past five years. In these past five years, he has been responsible for starting another 140-170 churches across inner Mongolia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s impressive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> He is traveling like Paul\u2014and seeing Mongol believers \/ gathering them into a church\u2014evangelizing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> So I would say pray earnestly for <em>him<\/em>. Their one desire is to be faithful to the Word of God and to live a life of obedience that is changed by the Word of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There might be\u2014a young man, maybe he\u2019s 15, maybe he is younger or a little older \/ or a young lady, who\u2019s listening to us right now\u2014and they may be sensing the stirring of God in their soul to invest their life in a foreign country\u2014maybe it\u2019s not Mongolia or China. What would you say to that young man \/ that young lady? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, Jed, I\u2019m saying, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you throw down the gauntlet and give them a challenge?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Yes, I would just say to you: \u201cYou want your life to count for <em>something<\/em>, and God wants to make your life <em>extraordinary<\/em> for Him. Don\u2019t be worrying about the what-ifs and what\u2019s going to happen in the future. Will you just lay your life out there and say, \u2018God, whatever You want me to do \/ wherever You want me to go, I\u2019ll go\u2019? If you will do that, you will see Him impact the world through you as He displays His glory through you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what I\u2019m hearing you say is\u2014you\u2019d do it again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Absolutely! Absolutely! In fact, I have to tell you\u2014one of the blessings God gave me recently was to hear my 19-year-old daughter\u2014she is going to be a junior in university\u2014she said just last year, in speaking to other young people\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014she said, \u201cI didn\u2019t enjoy the struggles I went through; but had I not gone through those struggles, there are depths of God\u2019s joy and peace I would not know.\u201d Now that\u2019s worth it all right there!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Indeed!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It sure is!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I want you to know that Barbara and I admire you\u2014your faith, your courage, your faithfulness, your perseverance. Thank you for following our Savior\u2019s orders and for being a good gospel soldier in a far-away country. Please pass along our greetings and our appreciation to your wife and your daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> Thank you! Thank you for your encouragement; but, to be honest, we don\u2019t deserve any accolades because all we\u2019re doing is being obedient to what He\u2019s directing. He\u2019s the One who deserves all the glory for what He\u2019s accomplished.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Indeed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, he does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jed:<\/strong> And I apologize; but I\u2019ve lost my Southern drawl\u2014I haven\u2019t lived over there for 23 years. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m just sitting here, wondering, \u201cDo you think Mandarin sounds different with a Southern accent than it sounds if you have a Yankee accent or something?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just wonder how he\u2019s managed to remain in Mongolia?\u2014how many guys from Alabama are in Mongolia?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. But once again, the thought that a family could hear what we\u2019ve talked about today and then, at the dinner table tonight or tomorrow, you sit down and say, \u201cHere\u2019s the name of Jesus in Mandarin.\u201d Of course, your kids aren\u2019t going to recognize\u2014the letters don\u2019t look anything like\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No, they\u2019re not letters\u2014they\u2019re characters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They\u2019re Chinese characters\u2014so they\u2019ll see that. And you flip it over on the back, you talk about God\u2019s work among the Chinese people. In fact, you\u2019ve got it right there, Dennis. What\u2019s it say on the back of the ornament?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It says, \u201cChristianity has spread rapidly among over one billion Mandarin Chinese-speaking people of China. Centuries of missions work by courageous men and women, such as Hudson and Maria Taylor, have set the example for thousands today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, Barbara quotes Romans 10:15: \u201cHow beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, I\u2019m just thinking here of a child, looking at this, and holding this in his or her hands. God may be speaking to a child, as they hang this on a tree, and look at that name, and think about over a billion people and where God\u2019s at work. Many believe there are more Christians in China than there are in America.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve heard more than 100,000,000 people who profess Christ are living in China. Of course, we\u2019ve got listeners here, who have children in their home who were born in China.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, we do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To be able to have one of these ornaments on your tree\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014from their native country, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and tell them about their country\u2014how thrilling is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. We thought about that as we created these ornaments\u2014how fun that would be for a family with adopted children to be able to have something that says, \u201cJesus,\u201d in their native tongue. And even for those of us that don\u2019t have children from those countries\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014just to be able to begin to recognize the name of Jesus in Mandarin, to recognize it in Russian, to recognize it in Arabic. I just think that\u2019s really good for our souls \/ I think it is good for our perspective of the gospel\u2014that Jesus came, at Christmas, for the whole world. It\u2019s a reminder that He came for the whole world\u2014not just for me, and my family, and my country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This whole idea was dreamed up by her\u2014kind of a burden, I think, God put on her heart, more than 25 years ago, as she looked at all the Santa Clauses, and reindeer, and candy canes and said, \u201cWhy isn\u2019t there something that, isn\u2019t just symbolic of the Christian faith, but that truly does proclaim Christ on our trees and to others who come into our homes?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are now 26 names that she\u2019s created\u2014the first year with the \u201cChristmas Names\u201d from Luke and Isaiah. Year two was \u201cHis Royal Names\u201d in the shape of different crowns. Last year was \u201cHis Savior Names\u201d in different crosses from different continents\/ different eras of history. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI promise you\u2014by the time people are filling their tree with these ornaments, they will have studied a lot about Jesus and about His work among different people around the world in ways they\u2019ve never done it before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, if people would like to see what the Adorenaments<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> look like\u2014from year one, year two, year three, the current year\u2014that\u2019s easy to do. Go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click on the link for Ever Thine Home<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and see the Adorenaments that are available. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order over the phone\u20141-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, when you get your tree set up, and you\u2019ve got the ornaments on it, take a picture and send it to us; will you? We\u2019d love to see the different trees throughout the country that are proclaiming the name of Jesus at Christmastime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I know at our house, one of the things that happens\u2014as the Christmas season comes along\u2014is that Mary Ann and I start to talk about yearend giving. We have just made it a practice\u2014a part of the rhythm of life\u2014that in the month of December, we pull back and we talk about different organizations\/ministries that have had an impact in our lives over the previous year. We consider making a special yearend financial gift in support of those ministries. We always start with our local church because that\u2019s where we think giving ought to begin. Then, as we have the opportunity, we consider other ministries that God has used in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know if that is something you do at your home or not; but I do know that a lot of our listeners, each year, consider making a yearend contribution in support of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> The reality is\u2014we depend on those yearend contributions. More than one-third of the revenue we need to operate the ministry comes in during the month of December.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo hearing from you this month is vital for us. The good news is that we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry, who have come to us recently, and they are providing us with a little additional incentive to encourage you to make a yearend contribution. Whatever donation you send in, between now and the end of December, these friends are going to <em>match<\/em> that with an additional donation that is twice as much as whatever you give. So, if you give a $50 donation, these friends are going to add an addition $100 to that\u2014we will wind up with $150 donated to FamilyLife. They\u2019ve capped this matching gift at \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t$2 million. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, to take full advantage of it, we\u2019d like to ask you to make a donation today. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com or call 1-800-FLTODAY and support the ministry of FamilyLife, knowing that your donation is going to, effectively, be tripled when you support this ministry today. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation over the phone; or you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue to look at how Christmas is celebrated all around the world. We\u2019ll head to Ecuador tomorrow. I hope you can be with us as we peer into the celebration of Christmas in South America. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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