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Author and mother of four Joanne Kraft gives a courageous call to moms not to shirk their duty, but to be the kind of mom their kids need.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-10-19.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Are you a mean mom?\u00a0 Joanne Kraft says, \u201cThere is the wrong kind of mean mom, but there is also a good kind of mean mom.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>A girlfriend was cutting my hair at the time. I said, \u201cWas your mom mean?\u201d\u00a0 She goes: \u201cYou know, my mom was mean\u2014she wanted to know who my friends were, where I was going to be, what time I would be home. She made me do well in school. She really kind of stayed on me, and I thought she was the meanest ever.\u201d\u00a0 Then, she stopped. She looked at me\u2014and I\u2019m not kidding\u2014there was a little twinkle in her eye. She goes: \u201cYou know what, though?\u00a0 She should have been meaner.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, October 19<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk about being a mean mom today but being the right kind of mean mom. Joanne Kraft is with us. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for joining us. I\u2019m a little\u2014a little afraid today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Are you?\u00a0 Are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, a little concerned about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think our guest is packing heat!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, she\u2019s packing something because she\u2019s a mean mom!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She is a mean mom. In fact, you have written a book for mean moms. In fact, I was rereading Proverbs 31 here. It says\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Is there anything about mean moms in it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, it says, \u201cShe looks well to the ways of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. Her children rise up and call her [Proverbs 31:28]\u201d\u2014\u201cmean.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s not what it says. It says they \u201ccall her blessed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And \u201cher husband, also, [and] he praises her\u2026\u201d [Proverbs 31:28]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we are joined today by Joanne Kraft, who is a native of California, but moved to Nashville, Tennessee, along with her husband Paul. They have four children, and she has written a book called <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide to Raising Great Kids<\/em>. Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Oh, thanks for having me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is so fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019ve got to go with kind of a hardcore question for you\u2014given your background. You worked in the police department as a dispatcher; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes, sir. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve got to ask you: \u201cWhat\u2019s the wildest or craziest phone call that you received as a police dispatcher?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You were on the other end of the 911 calls; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes\u2014emergency. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I know you got a lot of tragedy \/ a lot of stuff that is heartbreaking,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014but you had to have some pretty crazy calls too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Absolutely. There\u2014I mean, you have to figure\u2014you take any dispatcher \/ 911 dispatcher\u2014takes <em>thousands<\/em> of calls; but there are those that do make you laugh later. Sometimes, it might just be somebody calling because they want a ride. They think you are the cab. You know\u2014to a police officer\u2014they want you to come and pick them up for a ride. There\u2019s a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Be a safe way to go! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>That definitely is for some people, I guess. [Laughter]\u00a0 But those are kind of bizarre, but I don\u2019t think the public understands how many parents dial 911 for parenting advice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen technology really hit the scene, we had parents calling, saying: \u201cHey, my daughter has a Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> account. We know she\u2019s not using it appropriately, but she won\u2019t give us her password. So, what do we do?\u00a0 Can you\u2026\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWell, is she using it for criminal activity?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWell, no.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWell, we don\u2019t have jurisdiction over Facebook.\u201d\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, there\u2019s a real reason why you wound up writing <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide<\/em>. It\u2019s like: \u201cQuit calling 911. Here is what you do when this kind of stuff happens.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. You know, I don\u2019t think any author says, \u201cI want to be a mean mom writer.\u201d\u00a0 It happened naturally. I worked for a police department\u2014I\u2019ve worked for a couple police departments\u2014but the last one I worked at\u2014when those parents would call 911\u2014because I think they felt there was some anonymity there, once they got you on the phone. It was incredible how my dispatcher girlfriends would start to kind of save both calls for me. So, when I came into work, they\u2019d let me take them because they enjoyed listening to my answers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Entertaining. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>It was entertaining. It was straight and truthful, and I just had a gift of being able to share the truth without ever being written up for it. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, a lot of books begin with great stories. Yours has a lot of great stories it begins with, but yours <em>ends<\/em> with an incredible story of a mean mom who found alcohol in her son\u2019s car. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes, that is a wonderful story. That\u2014I believe her name was Jane\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>\u2014and she\u2019s almost legendary to want-to-be mean moms. She did\u2014she put an ad in the paper about her own son who\u2014she had told him, \u201cYou can have this car but have it responsibly.\u201d\u00a0 Well, she found alcohol. So, she sold his car\u2014she sold his car\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Read\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Joanne: <\/strong>I would have to read that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the advertisement she took out in the ad section. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Like a want ad?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is a want ad\u2014yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Well, yes. She actually is\u2014if there is like a leader or like a president of a mean moms\u2019 club, it would have to be Jane Hamilton. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe dubs herself: \u201cThe Meanest Mom on the Planet.\u201d\u00a0 She found alcohol in her son\u2019s car; and then, she decided to sell the car. Here\u2019s what the ad read\u2014it says: \u201cOlds 1999 Intrigue: Totally uncool parents, who obviously don\u2019t love teenage son, selling his car. Only driven for three weeks before snoopy mom, who \u2018needs to get a life,\u2019 found booze under the front seat. $3,700 or best offer. Call the Meanest Mom on the Planet.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the response of the audience was fascinating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Well, that\u2019s the thing!\u00a0 When I heard about her, I started to kind of research: \u201cDid she exist?\u201d She does. \u201cWhat about the response?\u201d\u00a0 Well, the articles that I\u2019ve read, that I could validate, were that she received so many congratulations: \u201cWay to go, Mom.\u201d\u00a0 She didn\u2019t remember receiving one negative response\u2014not one!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Parents want the kind of courage that she shows, but they are scared to death to demonstrate that kind of courage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, Bob, as I was reading the book, I was thinking, \u201cThis is really a book about a courageous call to moms to hold forth the office of being a mom and to do their duty in the face of fear,\u201d because there is not a mom alive who doesn\u2019t question the boundaries that she sets for her kids, especially when her kids begin to assault her, telling her she\u2019s the only mother on the planet who still believes these things are wrong and that all of their other friends totally get to go do this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But you\u2019re all about giving courage to moms. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>I hope so. That\u2019s my prayer for this book. It\u2019s a book that has enough humor in it \/ enough true stories\u2014transparent stories\u2014that, if a mother-in-law gives it to her daughter-in-law, she\u2019ll be invited back to dinner for Christmas. [Laughter] That\u2019s a good thing; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you talk about a mom being mean\u2014I mean, we\u2019re laughing about it\u2014there are moms that we\u2019d look at and go, \u201cIt\u2019s the wrong kind of mean.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are moms who are harsh, who are abusive, and who are angry moms. You\u2019re not talking about that kind of mean. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Absolutely not. I make that very clear in the first couple of pages of my book. When this book started to be written, I was bouncing the idea off some friends. One of the girlfriends said: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m just not a mean mom. I was raised by an incredibly mean mom.\u201d\u00a0 There is truth in that because some parents have a genetic mean streak, and those aren\u2019t the parents I\u2019m talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe mean mom I\u2019m talking about\u2014that\u2019s the title that a four-year-old or a fourteen-year-old gives you\u2014but when they\u2019re forty \/ when they have adult perspective, they realize: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 She wasn\u2019t mean after all.\u201d I share a story in there about a friend of mine who\u2014my girlfriend was cutting my hair at the time. I said, \u201cGina, was your mom mean?\u201d\u00a0 She goes: \u201cYou know, my mom was mean\u2014she wanted to know who my friends were, where I was going to be, what time I would be home. She made me do well in school. She really kind of stayed on me. I thought she was the meanest ever.\u201d Then, she stopped. She looked at me\u2014and I\u2019m not kidding\u2014there was a little twinkle in her eye. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe goes: \u201cYou know what, though?\u00a0 She should have been meaner.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter] I thought: \u201cWow!\u00a0 How many parents kind of regale one another with mean mom stories?\u201d\u00a0 I know I did, as a kid. I just think, \u201cYou know, we need to resurrect that mean mom.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, your mom wouldn\u2019t let you wear something out of the house?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>No, sir. Okay, stretch pants were on the scene. I\u2019m going to give my\u2014this is like going back to the big-hair \u201880s\u2014but no, stretch pants were pretty skin-tight; right?\u2014back then. Oh, no. I thought I was going to get away with it, but she called for reinforcement\u2014my father. I did not make it out of the front of the door. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There was a blockade. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you remember the event?\u00a0 I mean, can you\u2014where were you going?\u2014or what was going on?\u00a0 Do you remember?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>I was going to go out with friends. Everybody has them; you know?\u00a0 Of course, my mom started that: \u201cNo daughter of mine\u201d\u2014you know, the bane of every child\u2019s existence\u2014\u201cis going to leave this house. George!\u201d\u2014and called my dad. [Laughter] I\u2019ll tell you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He\u2019s a military guy. So, you were in trouble. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes, sir. He is former Marine\u2014so, I was his first recruit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut 30 years later, I was in church with my teenage son\u2014my <em>cool<\/em> teenage son. I will never forget\u2014I was looking\u2014I happened to be looking up in the worship. The girl\u2014sweet thing\u2014but it looked like she had discovered my pants from 1985. [Laughter] I\u2019m not kidding\u2014right on queue\u2014my son looked at me and said, \u201cYou know, Mom, she really shouldn\u2019t be wearing those pants.\u201d\u00a0 I thought: \u201cOh, my parents knew what they were doing.\u201d\u00a0 You know they did. <br><br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, what\u2019s the meanest thing you have ever done to your kids?\u00a0 I mean, if you wrote the book, <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide to Raising Great Kids<\/em>\u2014if I could call your kids right now, what would they say?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Joanne: <\/strong>I would have to say getting rid of the television. We got rid of it. I have to tell you\u2014it just happened because we were moving the furniture around. We went without a television for many, many years; and we don\u2019t have televisions in their rooms. They would think that is mean, you know, that we don\u2019t have \/ we don\u2019t allow\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>\u2014technology to rule the day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI find it very disrespectful, especially with grandparents, to have technology kind of bully its way onto the scene. So, my kids don\u2019t bring technology with them when we are visiting people or people are visiting us\u2014it\u2019s not a right. I think those kinds of things\u2014I\u2019m not sure they\u2019d be able to pick just one, Dennis. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Would they say you are a strict mom?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Actually, they say that I am the New Testament \/ my husband is the Old Testament\u2014so that I don\u2019t know what that says about him. I don\u2019t think they would say I am strict because I love ten times as much as I ever have to say, \u201cNo,\u201d to things. I love passionately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the first chapter of my book, I explain what a mean mom is. A mean mom, though she does keep her word when it\u2019s hard\u2014a mean mom loves passionately. She asks forgiveness when she\u2019s wrong. A mean mom doesn\u2019t let her fears overrule her kids\u2019 futures. A mean mom has control of those things because of Jesus, and that\u2019s why\u2014because we can lean on Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I like what you say in that first chapter as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou said, \u201cA mean mom can tread water longer than her child can make it rain.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 No, I really like that because you just think some children kind of get up in the morning and they are going to rain\u2014they are going to find a way to drown you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just think motherhood\u2014especially in this culture, as never before\u2014we have to come alongside moms\u2014and by the way, if there is a dad listening right now, this broadcast is for you\u2014to help give your wife courage: to stand with her, to cheer her on, to take her in the moments of self-doubt, and doubt about the boundaries, and about all the rules and regulations of running a household that have to be in place today. If you don\u2019t, the kids are going to rule the roost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Joanne: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. I\u2019m hoping that gives moms courage. Also, to come alongside their husband because I can tell you\u2014there were times where I thought: \u201cYou know, my husband\u2014maybe, this was\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014he shouldn\u2019t have had this hard line here. Maybe\u2026\u201d\u2014but you know what?\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you\u2014the majority of the time\u2014and I\u2019m not going to let my husband listen to this part of the interview\u2014the majority of the time he was <em>right<\/em>. Instead of us being a united front, and being partners in this parenting operation, I was fighting against him. That\u2019s not okay. There is no good \/ there is no blessing that comes of that when, now, we\u2019re being torn in two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In front of the kids, you were disagreeing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>I would say we really tried, when the kids were younger, not to do that; but when your kids become teenagers, and things are quick and fast, and you\u2019re getting old and tired, we weren\u2019t as good about it sometimes. As soon as your child knows there is a chink in the armor, hey\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, and you had a blended family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, that\u2019s a new ballgame, in and of itself, where your husband is not the biological father, even though he adopted your children and made them his own. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did he ever get the \u201cYou\u2019re not my dad,\u201d line thrown at him?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>You know what?\u00a0 He didn\u2019t get that. I will tell you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014maybe, it is because he adopted them and because they were pretty young when he adopted them\u2014but in our family, as far as blended families go, I have a hard time with saying, \u201cstepchild\u201d and \u201chalf-brother.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy daughter, Meghan, was working one time in high school. This woman came in\u2014because people don\u2019t know that part of our story\u2014we just\u2014we don\u2019t hide it \/ we just feel we\u2019re a family. She came in and said, \u201cOh, I didn\u2019t know Samuel was your half-brother!\u201d\u00a0 Meghan was mortified. She said, \u201cHe\u2019s my\u201d\u2014and Meghan is our oldest\u2014she goes, \u201cHe\u2019s my brother.\u201d \u201cWe don\u2019t have\u2014how do you have half a brother?\u201d\u2014she said that to me, \u201cMom, how do you have half a brother?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 That is so true because, with the Lord, does God ever say, \u2018Oh, hey; but you\u2019re a Gentile child of Mine\u2019?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 No, He doesn\u2019t say that. He says, \u201cYou\u2019re My child.\u201d\u00a0 So, I have a hard time because we [others] feel the need to share that. Some things we need to only share with our doctor; you know?\u00a0 We don\u2019t need to share that with people. I can\u2019t tell you how many women, at conferences, do that with me\u2014they share that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You have a lot of descriptions for moms\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not just mean moms\u2014but you have a \u201cmarshmallow mom.\u201d\u00a0 You have a \u201cDelia Doestoomuch,\u201d an \u201cEmma Emptythreats,\u201d and a \u201cPenny Putthekidsfirst-Everytime\u201d mom. Go over a couple of those with our listeners, and especially the marshmallow mom, because I think there are a lot of moms who will identify with this description. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Actually, too, you\u2019ve got the marshmallow mom and the \u201cmini-marshmallow mom\u201d; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. We have the \u201cjumbo-sized marshmallow mom.\u201d [Laughter] Okay, so, here we go\u2014let\u2019s see. So I believe we are all recovering marshmallow moms. Moms are natural nurturers. Moms naturally want to come and wipe away every tear from their child. Their love, I believe, is superhuman \/ it\u2019s unconditional. And marshmallow moms are where we begin, but we need to be\u2014more of us need to be in rehab. A jumbo-sized marshmallow mom is fueled by love, co-dependence, and a big dash of mom-guilt\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that\u2019s what, I believe, a marshmallow mom is. Most of us moms fall in that camp because most moms, I think, are good about keeping boundaries. A lot of us are pretty good about that; but we have certain areas where we are not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI define quite a few marshmallow moms in the book so that moms might be able to relate to a few of them because these all have been me, pretty much. I can name them because I\u2019ve been a lot of them. So, Delia Doestoomuch\u2014she\u2019s the mom who can\u2019t say, \u201cNo.\u201d\u00a0 She\u2019s the mom who says, \u201cYes,\u201d all the time because she thinks her value is in what she does for her child. Emma Emptythreats\u2014she\u2019s the one who\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cI\u2019m going to count to three,\u201d and then, we get to three and nothing happens\u2014that kind of thing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Absolutely. That\u2019s right\u2014you know her. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019ve met her\u2014yes; right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>That\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Hey, we raised six children. [Laughter] There are just times when the kids win\u2014that\u2019s just all there is to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>The one that frustrates me a lot\u2014it would have to be \u201cMaria Mykidcantdothat.\u201d She\u2019d be my favorite because I think that\u2019s where we stunt our kids because Maria ties her son\u2019s shoes for way too long. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDon\u2019t even ask my son, Samuel\u2014I tied his shoes at a soccer game once. Okay, that\u2019s a <em>bad<\/em> family story [Laughter]; but that\u2019s also the mom who says: \u201cMy child is too young to do this,\u201d\u2014\u201cThey are too young to do their own laundry,\u201d \/ \u201cThey are too young to get a job,\u201d \/ \u201cWell, goodness\u2014it\u2019s their senior year. They\u2019ve got to have <em>fun<\/em>. They can\u2019t do that.\u201d\u00a0 So, that\u2019s where it affects our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Our daughter, Ashley, our firstborn, has six sons and is caring for a foster care boy. She\u2019s got seven boys right now. She spoke at the <em>MomLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Boot Camp on a message called \u201cOh, Boy!\u201d\u00a0 She was talking about raising boys. She shared stories of her sons being on top of the roof, building fires in the backyard, and how she\u2019s trying to allow them to be boys and not try to make them into something they are not, but allow them to explore. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, obviously, you\u2019ve already said it\u2014we said, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014they have to have boundaries. You can\u2019t allow a child to do something, ultimately, dangerous. She got them off the roof when she found them there; but she appropriately loved them and, in a way, kind of cheered them on for their innovation, while at the same time, going, \u201cI can\u2019t believe you did that!\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s really what you are talking about\u2014is giving your children freedom to get out there, and be children today, and to be innocent, and childlike. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. Our son, David, really stretched me in that mom area because, at a young age, he was catching field mice with his bare hands \/ he just caught birds out of the air; but he\u2019s also my almost-21-year-old, who is a pre-vet student. So, I think that\u2019s fantastic to encourage those things in your kids, you know; because it surprises me, looking back, now, the areas where they are gifted. You think: \u201cOh, God wired them that way from the beginning. I had no idea!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, there are some aspects of motherhood where you\u2019re letting a lot of latitude happen \/ \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tother areas where the boundaries are really clear and tight. How do you know, as a mom, where to draw the boundaries tight and where to relax a little bit?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>When I wrote this book, I asked 150 moms to help me write it. One mom is quoted in my book to say\u2014because there are quotes written all throughout, not just my words\u2014and she says, \u201cI couldn\u2019t do this mom-thing without Jesus.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the Book of James, Chapter 1, verse 5, God says we can ask Him for wisdom. God says He\u2019ll give it to us generously. I think, as moms, we forget that, as valuable as people are with doctorates and educations\u2014you know are fantastic helps to us\u2014God has also given us the ability to make decisions on what\u2019s right, the boundaries that are correct for our kids, the boundaries that are going to bless them, and the things that they shouldn\u2019t be getting into. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, our oldest would tell you the meanest thing I did is put her on restriction from reading because she was reading <em>so<\/em> <em>much<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen she got in trouble, you have to take away what would work with them. So, with her, she didn\u2019t get to read for a couple of days. Well, I know that that\u2019s a boundary that will work\u2014that\u2019s wisdom, I think, God gave me. I couldn\u2019t put her in her room\u2014she loved being in her room; you know?\u00a0 So, God gives you that wisdom. That\u2019s how you know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And to that mom, who may know <em>about<\/em> Jesus but doesn\u2019t have Him living in her life to guide her, to speak to her, to direct her as she raises her children\u2014she might be interested in just knowing, \u201cHow did you meet Jesus?\u201d\u00a0 You were a police dispatcher when you came to faith in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. I was a single mom. I like to say I was a hard-headed heathen. [Laughter]\u00a0 I really was at the end of my rope. I really just remember\u2014and I wrote about it in my first book. I remember driving home with my kids in the car and just thinking: \u201cThis is it. I\u2019m done. I\u2019m done fighting.\u201d It was\u2014at that time, my girlfriend at the police department \/ who worked with me would take me to church; and that was it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI surrendered my life to Christ between that and another gentleman who worked at the police department with me. In the middle of the night, he would talk to me about Jesus. He was a former missionary from Ireland, and God knew who I needed in my life to turn my face toward Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll tell you\u2014my life has never been the same. To even be sitting here\u2014I\u2019m amazed at what God does with lives and how He turns people\u2019s lives around. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And to that mom, who may be\u2014maybe, she\u2019s hit the wall and, maybe, it\u2019s been her kids that have brought her to her knees: \u201cJesus Christ is alive from the dead.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Joanne: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He came to remove your shame \/ remove your guilt. He came to be your Lord, your Master, your Redeemer, your Salvation, and give you purpose, and hope, and peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s not going to make you perfect on this side of heaven, but He will go to work in your soul and help you be the mom you know your kids need you to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He will change your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, we have a link on our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com, that says\/talks about two ways to live\u2014talks about a self-directed life versus a God-directed life. Something is directing your life \/ something is charting a course for the decisions you\u2019re going to make today: Is it you relying on your own wisdom and understanding; or is it God speaking, through His Word, directing your steps?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d encourage you to go to our website\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d then, look for the link that says, \u201cTWO WAYS TO LIVE.\u201d Read through that and understand what Dennis is talking about in terms of what it means to live life according to God\u2019s direction, surrendered to Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd also, look for Joanne Kraft\u2019s book, <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide to Raising Great Kids<\/em>. You can order, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, at the end of the day, the most important thing we do, as moms and as dads, is to pass onto our kids a legacy of spiritual vitality. They need to see it in us\u2014needs to be real in us. Then, we have a responsibility to communicate to them that there is a God who loves them and a God who created them, and they owe their life to that God, and they need to serve Him throughout their days. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur goal, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, is to help equip you, as a parent and as a married couple, to live out your relationships in a way that brings honor to God and that enables you to thrive spiritually. We provide you with practical biblical help and hope for your marriage and your family every day on this radio program, on our website, through our events and our resources. And we\u2019re grateful to those of you who partner with us in making all of this possible\u2014those of you who are monthly Legacy Partners, making a monthly donation to support this ministry and those of you who donate, from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can make a donation today, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper right-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cI care,\u201d and make an online donation. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone. Or you can mail your donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, we\u2019ve got a thank-you gift we\u2019ll send you when you make a donation today. It\u2019s a new resource from Barbara Rainey designed to help promote conversation around the dinner table. It\u2019s called \u201cUntie Your Story,\u201d and it\u2019s our gift to you when you support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk about how important it is for a mean mom to be a loving wife if she\u2019s going to raise great kids. Joanne Kraft will be here with us again. Hope you can be back as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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