{"id":303706,"date":"2015-10-16T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-10-16T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/one-hope-one-truth-one-way\/"},"modified":"2015-10-16T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-10-16T15:00:00","slug":"one-hope-one-truth-one-way","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/one-hope-one-truth-one-way\/","title":{"rendered":"One Hope. One Truth. One Way."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Jon Erwin | Series: Woodlawn | A young Jon Erwin first heard the story about Woodlawn High School from his father. Now, decades later, Jon is\u00a0a film director and shares this true story with a whole new generation. &#8220;Woodlawn,&#8221; a faith-based film releasing today, is the remarkable story about a gifted high school football player, Tony Nathan, who embraces his talent and faith as he battles racial tensions at desegregated Woodlawn High.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A young Jon Erwin first heard the story about Woodlawn High School from his father. 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Here is movie producer and director, Jon Erwin.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Ben Affleck said it best: \u201cFilms are our children\u2019s education.\u201d So, again, I feel like Nehemiah, going before kings, and saying: \u201cI am broken-hearted for my generation. The walls of my generation are torn down. They are like sheep with no shepherd. <em>Please<\/em> help me take the most relevant, most powerful mechanism of delivery and share the gospel with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Friday, October 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. There is a movie opening today in theaters across the country that could point the next generation in the right direction. It\u2019s the movie, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. We\u2019ll talk about it today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. There\u2019s a particular movie theater in town that I\u2019ve started going to\u2014kind of as my exclusive theater.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The one with the recliners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The recliners! I will not go see a movie any\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Lazy Boy<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> recliners!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Where is it? Let\u2019s go see a movie tonight! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jon Erwin joins us\u2014he\u2019s a movie producer. Have you heard about this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have one in my hometown of Birmingham, Alabama.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They come with a bucket of Coke<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, buddy! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob has an industrial-sized container that he drinks Diet Coke out of; and he has to take it to a carwash\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to clean it out with those wands. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But I am ready for tonight! I\u2019ve got my recliner picked out \/ I\u2019ve got the ticket ready. I\u2019m going to be leaning back, watching <em>Woodlawn <\/em>at the theater tonight.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, Jon Erwin is back with us again here. He is the producer, along with his brother, of <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow long has this idea been baking? How long does it go back?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Oh, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>\u2014this is an amazing story. Sean Astin\u2019s character in the movie\u2014the chaplain in the film\u2014is in part based on my own father, who was the chaplain of Woodlawn High School. He was saved in the Jesus movement \/ had his honeymoon at Explo \u201972. You [Dennis] were also there in Dallas, as well as the majority of the leadership of the church\u2014it\u2019s unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember hearing Woodlawn first\u2014I was probably ten years old. My dad shared the story to the FCA [Fellowship of Christian Athletes] at the University of Alabama. I\u2019ve just been born and raised, as I should be, both an evangelical Christian\/Southern Baptist. I love Jesus and \u201cRoll Tide\u201d-Alabama fan. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen Jon Voight, who plays Bear Bryant in the film\u2014he just does an incredible job\u2014put the hat on at Legion Field, where all of this happened, and just naturally leaned against the goalpost, the whole set just <em>stopped<\/em>. We all just stared at him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, Jeremiah Castille\u2014who\u2019s the father of Caleb Castille, who plays the role\u2014he played for Alabama \/ for Bear Bryant\u2014he started almost crying because Jon looks so much like him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is\u2014I mean, I was <em>stunned<\/em> by how Bear Bryant\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s unbelievable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you lose Jon Voight.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Oh, he does so good! And he\u2019s so good in the film. He\u2019s an Academy award-winning actor and just a joy to work with\u2014had such a respect for the character and a love for the character.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, hearing this story, when I was probably ten\u2014it was like a bedtime story for my dad. So I guess it was gestating. Then, my story is that I started working for ESPN when I was 15 because a cameraman got sick at a University of Alabama football game. Andy and I worked for ESPN for ten years as cameramen, doing mostly college football.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Andy\u2019s your brother.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, and we direct together. So <em>Woodlawn <\/em>has been one of those stories that we\u2019ve always just thought about. Then, last summer, Pastor Michael Catt said: \u201cYou need to go make this movie now. I think America\u2019s going to be ready for it.\u201d That was prophetic in many ways because <em>Woodlawn<\/em> is a story, again, of a high school that was going to close because of violence due to integration\u2014true story\u2014Birmingham, Alabama. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was the power of the gospel \/ it was Christ who saved the school. It was the love of Christ that overcame hatred and racism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat a relevant theme for today, and what an opportunity for the gospel. So you have this big, entertaining movie\u2014and we hope you love it and enjoy it, just as a movie\u2014but it\u2019s also a bit of a Trojan horse for the gospel. I hope that people can use it as a tool. I remember when we showed the film to high school football students for the first time with FCA, a wonderful partner. We showed it to 200 students just to see, you know, how they would like it. <em>Fifty<\/em> of them prayed to receive Christ!\u2014a fourth of the kids that were there. So this is a <em>huge<\/em> opportunity for the gospel!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve tried to put the gospel on as big a stage as possible. We spent more on this movie than we ever have before\u2014almost more than any other independent Christian film, except <em>The Passion of the Christ. <\/em>We\u2019re passionate about that because the gospel deserves our very best. We\u2019ve got to begin to compete with <em>Jurassic World<\/em>, and <em>Star Wars<\/em>,and all of these big films. This is our swing at bat\u2014we would love for you to join us at the theater.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You said that Jon Voight\u2019s in the movie \/ Sean Astin is in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u201cRudy\u201d is in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, so he\u2019s coming back to a football film.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> First time back to football since <em>Rudy<\/em>. Of course, we did <em>Mom\u2019s Night Out <\/em>together. He\u2019s such a dear friend, and it\u2019s been a great collaboration with him. He\u2019s become a dear friend.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Any other name actors in the film?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you what\u2019s cool\u2014Nic Bishop plays Tandy Gerelds. The real Tandy Gerelds\u2019 son was on set, weeping, saying, \u201cYou\u2019ve captured my father.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> It was so cool, as he portrayed the line. The reason we wanted to do the film is that the coach was a cynic\u2014he didn\u2019t want to believe what was happening to his team. He was a tough guy who cared so much more about winning than about his players. What happened on the team became so undeniable that he finally got down on his knees. The prayer that changed his life\u2014a powerful scene in the movie\u2014was when he said, \u201cGod, I don\u2019t know if You\u2019re real; but I want whatever my players have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> And that was so powerful. He does <em>such<\/em> a good job. The cool thing was that the lead in the film, Caleb Castille\u2014we had cast an actor from London. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA week before the film, his passport was revoked\u2014never happened to him before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> So we got down on our knees and starting praying because there is a multi-million dollar freight train that we can\u2019t stop. Little did we know\u2014a guy named Caleb Castille \/ he played on two Saban championship teams\u2014had gotten the script \/ had gotten down on his knees and prayed over it, and claimed it because he wanted to be a voice to his generation. We had not ever seen his audition. He\u2019s from Birmingham\u2014Birmingham native. His dad, Jeremiah Castille, played for Bear Bryant in the game we dramatized in the film\u2014it\u2019s unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had been crushed and broken-hearted when he found out he didn\u2019t get the role, but he decided to try out for the football team. Mark Ellis, who\u2019s the Stunt Coordinator\u2014he has done every Hollywood film you could imagine in terms of football. We had 600 people try out\u2014he [Caleb] became Tony Nathan\u2019s stunt double. I started hearing about him\u2014Andy and I both\u2014from multiple people, saying, \u201cThis kid is really special.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe dug up his audition\u2014never seen it \/ it got lost in the shuffle\u2014and it blew us away. Two days before the film, we came in and just had a meeting with him, prayed about it, and said, \u201cYou\u2019re our Tony Nathan.\u201d He literally drove around the city of Birmingham, crying that whole night. He brings it in the film\u2014he delivers an incredible performance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, he does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> As you know, we are just massively under-represented in entertainment today. I\u2019m so grateful to give a kid like Caleb a platform and to put some really powerful actors around him. Boy, does he bring it! He delivers a great performance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> He\u2019s awesome in the film!\u2014first feature film.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This all occurred in another era, but it was an era when I was alive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And a scene that you show\u2014I\u2019m not sure how many times in the movie\u2014but it is about Explo \u201972.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Explain kind of what Explo was and how that fits into what took place in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, no, no! You explain what Explo was\u2014Jon wasn\u2019t even born when Explo happened.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, but I\u2019ve become a bit of an archaeologist\u2014that\u2019s a terrible thing to say\u2014you\u2019re sitting right here. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut anyway\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It really is!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019m sorry! I\u2019m a detective\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of your dinosaurs is right here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s a better word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> A fossil?! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019m sorry. I\u2019ll never be invited back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You won\u2019t\u2014I guarantee you, you won\u2019t! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> But I\u2019ll tell you this\u2014God has\u2014I pray <em>daily<\/em> that God does something in my generation like He did in your generation. The stories of the Jesus movement\u2014nothing in my experience as a Christian compares with what happened in the Jesus movement\u2014and most baptisms <em>ever<\/em> in the Southern Baptist denomination in 1972. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Four hundred thousand baptisms!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> The stories are unbelievable. I remember talking to Mike Huckabee, and almost saying, \u201cWhy has this story not been told?\u201d My whole generation is searching for answers, and there\u2019s a generation leaving the church\u2014we need God!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> We need something like the Jesus movement\u2014we need it now! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would say that Jonathan Edwards, in his Old English way, said, \u201cFather, revival\u2014stories of revival for one place spark revival in another.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re trying to do with <em>Woodlawn. <\/em>I love the Jesus movement and would love to hear more about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You [Dennis] had been on staff with Campus Crusade for two years when it was announced that Campus Crusade was going to be hosting this event in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas in the summer of 1972; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. To speak of the Jesus movement\u2014when I came on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and raised my own support\u2014as I still do today, some 45 years later\u2014there were about 600 of us that came on [staff], off the college campus, in one year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The next year, there were like <em>700<\/em> of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The next year, it was like <em>800<\/em>. So, in the early \u201870s, there were these young people, who said: \u201cWe\u2019re going to come help change the world. We\u2019re going to <em>go<\/em> help change the world.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA part of what happened was what Bob said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBill Bright had a vision for getting 100,000 people in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, Texas\u201440,000 high school kids and 50-60,000 college students\u2014and a few adults, sprinkled in. That event took place, along with a rally that occurred after it, that I think a quarter of a million people\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I forget the exact number.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Billy Graham spoke. Jonny Cash sang; right? I mean, it was a series of four or five nights in a row; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, right. So what you don\u2019t know, Jon, is Barbara had moved to Dallas, where I was living, and helping with Explo \u201972.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was in charge of all the transportation for 40,000 high school kids all over North Texas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s another story in and of itself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Angels delivered busses! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to get to heaven and find that there were angels driving Dallas transit busses all over, from Denton, to South Dallas, to Fort Worth. I don\u2019t have any idea how they all got back where they were supposed to go; but in the midst of this, Barbara and I went out 52 days out of 55.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> How about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We developed our relationship\u2014friendship\u2014I would say \u201can intense friendship.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, a few weeks after Explo was over, we were engaged. Six weeks later, we were married. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Unbelievable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We started our marriage and our lives, really, out of the Jesus movement and out of Explo \u201972. I have to tell you\u2014[Emotion in voice] when I watched the scene of Dr. Graham speaking, it took us back because I was walking on the field of the Cotton Bowl.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was incredibly powerful because there really hadn\u2019t been a gathering like that, I think, in the history of the church in North America, where that many people came together to, not only hear about Christ and celebrate Him, but to take the gospel out to the four corners of the nation and beyond to the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> You could literally do a documentary on Explo in terms of the generation of leadership in the church today that can be traced back to that event\u2014again, most baptisms <em>ever<\/em> in the Southern Baptist\u2014400,000 \/ 1972. My parents had their honeymoon at Explo \u201972\u2014how about that?\u2014and were saved in the Jesus movement. Ronnie Floyd, President of the Southern Baptist Convention, was there. Mike Huckabee was there\u2014his story \/ Sean Astin\u2019s \u201cOne Way\u201d story in the film\u2014comes from Mike Huckabee\u2019s testimony when I interviewed him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just felt like: \u201cIt is time! It\u2019s time for another Jesus movement. It\u2019s time for another Great Awakening.\u201d I feel like we are ready\u2014it\u2019s time to unify around that concept. I\u2019m <em>privileged<\/em> to be a small voice in bringing a story that has not been told loudly enough, or often enough, or really at all\u2014and bringing it to the forefront to say, \u201cLook what God did!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, all the stories that I heard from the Jesus movement\u2014I remember Michael Catt telling me one of a prayer meeting with teenagers that went all night at his school in their gym\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014a young girl coming in\u2014just out of curiosity because of the cars. She couldn\u2019t get five feet into the room before she dropped to her knees and said, \u201cWill someone tell me how to be saved?\u201d Things like this were happening. And I remember\u2014when I started doing the research for <em>Woodlawn<\/em>, I found on eBay<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014there is a <em>Time <\/em>magazine\/1971 and also a <em>Life <\/em>magazine\/1972\u2014it\u2019s \u201cThe Great Jesus Rally in Dallas.\u201d <em>Time <\/em>magazine was labeled, \u201cThe Jesus Revolution.\u201d It was like a ten-page spread on something happening, so undeniable, in a generation that Jesus was on the cover of <em>Time <\/em>magazine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo what we\u2019re saying with <em>Woodlawn<\/em>\u2014the reason that we\u2019re doing it \/ the reason we want you to be involved\u2014is we\u2019re not done until something happens, so undeniable again, in our generation, that Jesus makes the cover of <em>Time <\/em>magazine for all the right reasons. I just feel like it\u2019s time. Nothing like that\u2014when you read that article, you just realize how much our \u201cHappy Meal\u201d-Christianity has atrophied and what we\u2019ve lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just think it almost makes me angry that I haven\u2019t experienced something like that in my time and in my generation. One of the major reasons we\u2019re doing <em>Woodlawn<\/em> is that film is a way that you can <em>taste<\/em> something that maybe you haven\u2019t experienced before in your own experience and your own life. It\u2019s a way for a generation to taste just a little bit of what revival \/ spiritual awakening\u2014whatever you want to call it\u2014feels like. My prayer is that by going to a football movie \/ an epic football movie, they get a taste of revival and awakening\u2014and they go through, maybe, a little bit of the journey that I\u2019ve gone through\u2014that I\u2019ve begun to crave it for myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI feel it is coming. We have two fundamental beliefs in making the film\u2014our team. We believe that the local church is the hope of the world \/ we believe that God can and will revive a generation. We feel like it is coming. I think God is going to do something in a generation of young people and in a generation of people today that we have not seen in 50 years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is a great rally cry. Going back to Explo \u201972, the guy who was in charge of it\u2014his name is Paul Eshleman\u2014was 28 years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, if we\u2019re looking at revival today, those of us who are a bit older in the church today are going to have to make room for a younger generation, and empower them, and cheer them on, as well as being a part of it. There were parents there [at Explo] \/ there were grandparents there; but I was 24. I didn\u2019t know <em>what<\/em> I was doing \/I know <em>why <\/em>I was there; but it gave an opportunity for us, as a group of young people, to unite around the cause of Jesus Christ and make Him the issue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll tell you\u2014all of the things we\u2019re facing today \/ that we see on the evening news\u2014all the racism, and the hatred, and the hopelessness of our nation\u2014desperately needing a moral and spiritual center. This movie captures what the answer is\u2014the hole in the heart of human beings is the need to know Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis movie champions that and will give people, I think, boldness as they watch it\u2014to think of some fresh ways they can proclaim Christ to their generation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want me to see if the recliner next to me is open at the theater for this evening?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Would you?! [Laughter] Will you buy the Coke? We need a <em>large<\/em> container of popcorn! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tExplain, Bob\u2014you did a good job, on an earlier broadcast, of explaining to our listeners why the opening week is so important, not just to go see an entertaining movie and to take others with you, but why it\u2019s so important for the future of this movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, every movie company in America is watching what happens at the box office this weekend for a number of reasons. They\u2019re watching to see what movies are going to show again next weekend. The ones that sell a lot of tickets this weekend will still be in theaters next weekend. If they sell a lot the next weekend, it stays like that. The ones\u2014if they have a soft opening: \u201cWell, we start to push those aside and make room for what we hope might be the better next film coming along.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut not only is it about this movie and this weekend, but when a movie like <em>Woodlawn<\/em> surprises Hollywood executives\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It sends a clear message.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014they all push back and go, \u201cOkay, what do we need to learn from this little movie that just exploded out here?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cMaybe people have a hunger for something other than the food we\u2019re feeding them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. They start to commission scripts and green light projects that have emphases like this because they really have less of an ideological core about the themes of their movies\u2014their core is really about the profit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014the money.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s really what\u2019s driving this. And if Christians are saying, and others are saying, \u201cI like movies that have this kind of a message to them,\u201d Hollywood will say, \u201cWe\u2019ll make those for you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s like I shared with you guys\u2014the thing driving a generation\u2019s decisions\u2014talk about sheep with no shepherd\u2014it\u2019s cultural anarchy. They\u2019re driven by this thing\u2014the <u>F<\/u>ear <u>o<\/u>f <u>M<\/u>issing <u>O<\/u>ut\u2014called FoMO. It\u2019s unfortunate because they\u2019ll consume anything that\u2019s popular. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> So we\u2019ve got to play on that playing field. So, the thesis is: \u201cIf enough Christians unify together and make enough noise together, we can get a generation back,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014using this curiosity \/ this insatiable need they have to belong. That\u2019s the idea\u2014it\u2019s a Jericho strategy of everyone having to yell at the same time\u2014in my business, it\u2019s the opening weekend of the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNot only that\u2014foreign distribution is deemed by the U.S. box office\u2014that\u2019s how far it goes\u2014to the world. Our top 30 films\u2014we call them \u201cblockbusters\u201d of the year in America\u2014they are doing over 40 percent of all the box office, not in America, but in the <em>entire<\/em> world. This is the most fundamental opportunity for the gospel <em>ever<\/em>\u2014but we have to start thinking small\u2014and we have to start thinking, \u201cHow do we put the gospel on a grand stage?\u201d <em>Woodlawn <\/em>is that experiment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So here\u2019s what I\u2019ll say\u2014because there are some listeners, who are going: \u201cMan, I wish it was coming out next weekend because this weekend we\u2019re busy. We\u2019re going here\u2014can\u2019t do that,\u201d \u201c\u2026We\u2019re going to see Alabama play; so we can\u2019t go to the movie.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Roll Tide!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s what I would say\u2014if you can\u2019t get to the movie, go online to Fandango and buy two tickets for the 11:00 am showing on Saturday morning at your local Cineplex. You don\u2019t have to go\u2014just go buy two tickets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019ll take it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right?\u2014because you\u2019re voting that way, whether you go see the movie now or not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> You know, the other way\u2014this is interesting\u2014no one has ever done this before\u2014but we\u2019re working\u2014you can go to WoodlawnMovie.com\u2014we\u2019re working with our good friends and partners at Fellowship of Christian Athletes and also our good friends and partners at the National Christian Foundation. FCA is lining up thousands of teams that can go see this movie. So FCA is ready. You can actually go onto our website, if you want, and actually sponsor student athletes to go see the movie for free.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you go!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Awesome!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> And FCA is ready\u2014not only to get those kids into the theater\u2014but to get them to hear the gospel afterwards and to disciple them. I mean, film is a one-way communication; but this is a way that we\u2019re facilitating discipleship. So, if you want to do sponsor a team or athletes, you can do it at WoodlawnMovie.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So the movie has a piece that was done by Campus Crusade for Christ, back then. So is Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014that\u2019s the present name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014has Cru come alongside this with college students?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Cru is <em>so<\/em> involved\u2014and everyone at Cru. I was texting with Paul Eshleman\u2014who is just a hero of mine, obviously\u2014the <em>Jesus <\/em>film and Explo \u201972 \u2014they\u2019ve become such great partners and such great friends\u2014in working with their campus ministries \/ their city strategies. It\u2019s just amazing to see people\u2014again, I feel like Nehemiah, going before kings, and saying: \u201cI am broken-hearted for my generation. The walls of my generation are torn down. They are like sheep with no shepherd. <em>Please<\/em> help me take the most relevant, most powerful mechanism of delivery and share the gospel with them.\u201d Ben Affleck said it best: \u201cFilms are our children\u2019s education.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Cru has come to the table in such a huge way\u2014we\u2019re so grateful! My dad\u2014a part of his story of becoming a Christian was Campus Crusade for Christ \/ he and my mom\u2019s honeymoon was at Explo \u201972 \u2014so I wouldn\u2019t <em>be<\/em> here without the ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think your dad may need some help if he came to Explo \u201972 on his honeymoon. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> He was like you!! He was like you, in his early 20s, and he didn\u2019t know any better! \u2014you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fired up for Jesus!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> But I would say this\u2014I have the deepest respect for Campus Crusade. I would not be here and <em>Woodlawn<\/em> would not have been made if it were not for the ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I appreciate that. Jon, I just want to thank you for using your gifts for God\u2019s purposes and His glory. Keep on keeping on. Any way we can help\u2014we want to do that and fan the flames. I\u2019d encourage our listeners\u2014those of you who are prayer warriors\u2014pray for this movie\u2014that, at the end, as the credits roll, they\u2019ll get it. You\u2019ll have to wait and go to the movie to understand what I just said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Honestly, I\u2019m sitting here, rethinking the recliner strategy for the movie theater because I\u2019m thinking, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be hard to get up from the recliner and cheer at the end, like I\u2019m going to want to do.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I would still do the recliner! [Laughter] If I had a recliner in my town\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d be there next to me?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014I would be there next to you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Alright, so here\u2019s the assignment: \u201cWe\u2019re going to rendezvous at the movie theater this weekend for the movie, <em>Woodlawn. <\/em>It opens tonight in theaters all across the country.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, as we\u2019ve said\u2014this is a key weekend to get out and see the film. If you\u2019d like to see the trailer\u2014you want to see what the movie looks like\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You\u2019ll see information right there about the movie, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. You can watch the trailer online.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll just mention that there\u2019s also information there about our <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series. I\u2019d just encourage guys that: \u201cIf you\u2019ve not gone through the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series with a group of guys in your church\u2014in your small group, a group of dads and teenage sons going through it together, whatever works for you\u2014get the <em>Stepping<\/em> <em>Up<\/em> video series and some workbooks and go through it.\u201d Find out more about <em>Stepping<\/em> <em>Up<\/em> while you\u2019re, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our goal, here at FamilyLife, is to help provide you with practical biblical help and hope every day on this radio program. All of that is possible because there are folks, like you, who donate to make <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>possible\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014listeners who will either, from time to time, make a donation\u2014or we\u2019ve got a group of Legacy Partners, who donate each month. If you are one of those folks, \u201cThank you for partnering with us in this ministry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019ve never made a donation in support of <em>FamilyLife Today, <\/em>we\u2019d love to hear from you today. You can make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper right-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cI Care,\u201d\u2014make an online donation. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone. By the way, we have a thank-you gift when you make a donation today. Barbara Rainey has created a new tool to help promote lively conversation around the dinner table. It\u2019s called \u201cUntie Your Story.\u201d It\u2019s a spool full of napkin ties, and each one has a question on it that will allow for some provocative discussions at your dinner table. It\u2019s our thank-you gift when you make a donation today. We really do appreciate your support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we are done for this week. Thanks for being with us. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk to a mom who\u2014she describes herself as a \u201cmean mom.\u201d Joanne Kraft has written a book called <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide to Raising Great Kids.<\/em> We\u2019ll talk to her about all the stuff that mean moms do. 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young Jon Erwin first heard the story about Woodlawn High School from his father. Now a film director, decades later, Jon shares this true story with a whole new generation.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-10-16.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Which is having a bigger impact in shaping the thinking and the hearts of the next generation today?\u2014is it the church or the movie theater? Here is movie producer and director, Jon Erwin.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Ben Affleck said it best: \u201cFilms are our children\u2019s education.\u201d So, again, I feel like Nehemiah, going before kings, and saying: \u201cI am broken-hearted for my generation. The walls of my generation are torn down. They are like sheep with no shepherd. <em>Please<\/em> help me take the most relevant, most powerful mechanism of delivery and share the gospel with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Friday, October 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. There is a movie opening today in theaters across the country that could point the next generation in the right direction. It\u2019s the movie, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. We\u2019ll talk about it today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. There\u2019s a particular movie theater in town that I\u2019ve started going to\u2014kind of as my exclusive theater.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The one with the recliners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The recliners! I will not go see a movie any\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Lazy Boy<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> recliners!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Where is it? Let\u2019s go see a movie tonight! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jon Erwin joins us\u2014he\u2019s a movie producer. Have you heard about this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have one in my hometown of Birmingham, Alabama.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They come with a bucket of Coke<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, buddy! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob has an industrial-sized container that he drinks Diet Coke out of; and he has to take it to a carwash\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to clean it out with those wands. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But I am ready for tonight! I\u2019ve got my recliner picked out \/ I\u2019ve got the ticket ready. I\u2019m going to be leaning back, watching <em>Woodlawn <\/em>at the theater tonight.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, Jon Erwin is back with us again here. He is the producer, along with his brother, of <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow long has this idea been baking? How long does it go back?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Oh, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>\u2014this is an amazing story. Sean Astin\u2019s character in the movie\u2014the chaplain in the film\u2014is in part based on my own father, who was the chaplain of Woodlawn High School. He was saved in the Jesus movement \/ had his honeymoon at Explo \u201972. You [Dennis] were also there in Dallas, as well as the majority of the leadership of the church\u2014it\u2019s unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember hearing Woodlawn first\u2014I was probably ten years old. My dad shared the story to the FCA [Fellowship of Christian Athletes] at the University of Alabama. I\u2019ve just been born and raised, as I should be, both an evangelical Christian\/Southern Baptist. I love Jesus and \u201cRoll Tide\u201d-Alabama fan. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen Jon Voight, who plays Bear Bryant in the film\u2014he just does an incredible job\u2014put the hat on at Legion Field, where all of this happened, and just naturally leaned against the goalpost, the whole set just <em>stopped<\/em>. We all just stared at him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, Jeremiah Castille\u2014who\u2019s the father of Caleb Castille, who plays the role\u2014he played for Alabama \/ for Bear Bryant\u2014he started almost crying because Jon looks so much like him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is\u2014I mean, I was <em>stunned<\/em> by how Bear Bryant\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s unbelievable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you lose Jon Voight.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Oh, he does so good! And he\u2019s so good in the film. He\u2019s an Academy award-winning actor and just a joy to work with\u2014had such a respect for the character and a love for the character.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, hearing this story, when I was probably ten\u2014it was like a bedtime story for my dad. So I guess it was gestating. Then, my story is that I started working for ESPN when I was 15 because a cameraman got sick at a University of Alabama football game. Andy and I worked for ESPN for ten years as cameramen, doing mostly college football.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Andy\u2019s your brother.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, and we direct together. So <em>Woodlawn <\/em>has been one of those stories that we\u2019ve always just thought about. Then, last summer, Pastor Michael Catt said: \u201cYou need to go make this movie now. I think America\u2019s going to be ready for it.\u201d That was prophetic in many ways because <em>Woodlawn<\/em> is a story, again, of a high school that was going to close because of violence due to integration\u2014true story\u2014Birmingham, Alabama. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was the power of the gospel \/ it was Christ who saved the school. It was the love of Christ that overcame hatred and racism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat a relevant theme for today, and what an opportunity for the gospel. So you have this big, entertaining movie\u2014and we hope you love it and enjoy it, just as a movie\u2014but it\u2019s also a bit of a Trojan horse for the gospel. I hope that people can use it as a tool. I remember when we showed the film to high school football students for the first time with FCA, a wonderful partner. We showed it to 200 students just to see, you know, how they would like it. <em>Fifty<\/em> of them prayed to receive Christ!\u2014a fourth of the kids that were there. So this is a <em>huge<\/em> opportunity for the gospel!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve tried to put the gospel on as big a stage as possible. We spent more on this movie than we ever have before\u2014almost more than any other independent Christian film, except <em>The Passion of the Christ. <\/em>We\u2019re passionate about that because the gospel deserves our very best. We\u2019ve got to begin to compete with <em>Jurassic World<\/em>, and <em>Star Wars<\/em>,and all of these big films. This is our swing at bat\u2014we would love for you to join us at the theater.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You said that Jon Voight\u2019s in the movie \/ Sean Astin is in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u201cRudy\u201d is in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, so he\u2019s coming back to a football film.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> First time back to football since <em>Rudy<\/em>. Of course, we did <em>Mom\u2019s Night Out <\/em>together. He\u2019s such a dear friend, and it\u2019s been a great collaboration with him. He\u2019s become a dear friend.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Any other name actors in the film?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you what\u2019s cool\u2014Nic Bishop plays Tandy Gerelds. The real Tandy Gerelds\u2019 son was on set, weeping, saying, \u201cYou\u2019ve captured my father.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> It was so cool, as he portrayed the line. The reason we wanted to do the film is that the coach was a cynic\u2014he didn\u2019t want to believe what was happening to his team. He was a tough guy who cared so much more about winning than about his players. What happened on the team became so undeniable that he finally got down on his knees. The prayer that changed his life\u2014a powerful scene in the movie\u2014was when he said, \u201cGod, I don\u2019t know if You\u2019re real; but I want whatever my players have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> And that was so powerful. He does <em>such<\/em> a good job. The cool thing was that the lead in the film, Caleb Castille\u2014we had cast an actor from London. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA week before the film, his passport was revoked\u2014never happened to him before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> So we got down on our knees and starting praying because there is a multi-million dollar freight train that we can\u2019t stop. Little did we know\u2014a guy named Caleb Castille \/ he played on two Saban championship teams\u2014had gotten the script \/ had gotten down on his knees and prayed over it, and claimed it because he wanted to be a voice to his generation. We had not ever seen his audition. He\u2019s from Birmingham\u2014Birmingham native. His dad, Jeremiah Castille, played for Bear Bryant in the game we dramatized in the film\u2014it\u2019s unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had been crushed and broken-hearted when he found out he didn\u2019t get the role, but he decided to try out for the football team. Mark Ellis, who\u2019s the Stunt Coordinator\u2014he has done every Hollywood film you could imagine in terms of football. We had 600 people try out\u2014he [Caleb] became Tony Nathan\u2019s stunt double. I started hearing about him\u2014Andy and I both\u2014from multiple people, saying, \u201cThis kid is really special.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe dug up his audition\u2014never seen it \/ it got lost in the shuffle\u2014and it blew us away. Two days before the film, we came in and just had a meeting with him, prayed about it, and said, \u201cYou\u2019re our Tony Nathan.\u201d He literally drove around the city of Birmingham, crying that whole night. He brings it in the film\u2014he delivers an incredible performance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, he does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> As you know, we are just massively under-represented in entertainment today. I\u2019m so grateful to give a kid like Caleb a platform and to put some really powerful actors around him. Boy, does he bring it! He delivers a great performance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He does.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> He\u2019s awesome in the film!\u2014first feature film.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This all occurred in another era, but it was an era when I was alive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And a scene that you show\u2014I\u2019m not sure how many times in the movie\u2014but it is about Explo \u201972.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Explain kind of what Explo was and how that fits into what took place in the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, no, no! You explain what Explo was\u2014Jon wasn\u2019t even born when Explo happened.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, but I\u2019ve become a bit of an archaeologist\u2014that\u2019s a terrible thing to say\u2014you\u2019re sitting right here. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut anyway\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It really is!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019m sorry! I\u2019m a detective\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of your dinosaurs is right here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s a better word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> A fossil?! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019m sorry. I\u2019ll never be invited back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You won\u2019t\u2014I guarantee you, you won\u2019t! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> But I\u2019ll tell you this\u2014God has\u2014I pray <em>daily<\/em> that God does something in my generation like He did in your generation. The stories of the Jesus movement\u2014nothing in my experience as a Christian compares with what happened in the Jesus movement\u2014and most baptisms <em>ever<\/em> in the Southern Baptist denomination in 1972. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Four hundred thousand baptisms!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> The stories are unbelievable. I remember talking to Mike Huckabee, and almost saying, \u201cWhy has this story not been told?\u201d My whole generation is searching for answers, and there\u2019s a generation leaving the church\u2014we need God!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> We need something like the Jesus movement\u2014we need it now! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would say that Jonathan Edwards, in his Old English way, said, \u201cFather, revival\u2014stories of revival for one place spark revival in another.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re trying to do with <em>Woodlawn. <\/em>I love the Jesus movement and would love to hear more about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You [Dennis] had been on staff with Campus Crusade for two years when it was announced that Campus Crusade was going to be hosting this event in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas in the summer of 1972; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. To speak of the Jesus movement\u2014when I came on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and raised my own support\u2014as I still do today, some 45 years later\u2014there were about 600 of us that came on [staff], off the college campus, in one year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The next year, there were like <em>700<\/em> of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The next year, it was like <em>800<\/em>. So, in the early \u201870s, there were these young people, who said: \u201cWe\u2019re going to come help change the world. We\u2019re going to <em>go<\/em> help change the world.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA part of what happened was what Bob said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBill Bright had a vision for getting 100,000 people in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, Texas\u201440,000 high school kids and 50-60,000 college students\u2014and a few adults, sprinkled in. That event took place, along with a rally that occurred after it, that I think a quarter of a million people\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I forget the exact number.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Billy Graham spoke. Jonny Cash sang; right? I mean, it was a series of four or five nights in a row; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, right. So what you don\u2019t know, Jon, is Barbara had moved to Dallas, where I was living, and helping with Explo \u201972.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was in charge of all the transportation for 40,000 high school kids all over North Texas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Unbelievable!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s another story in and of itself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Angels delivered busses! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to get to heaven and find that there were angels driving Dallas transit busses all over, from Denton, to South Dallas, to Fort Worth. I don\u2019t have any idea how they all got back where they were supposed to go; but in the midst of this, Barbara and I went out 52 days out of 55.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> How about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We developed our relationship\u2014friendship\u2014I would say \u201can intense friendship.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, a few weeks after Explo was over, we were engaged. Six weeks later, we were married. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Unbelievable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We started our marriage and our lives, really, out of the Jesus movement and out of Explo \u201972. I have to tell you\u2014[Emotion in voice] when I watched the scene of Dr. Graham speaking, it took us back because I was walking on the field of the Cotton Bowl.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was incredibly powerful because there really hadn\u2019t been a gathering like that, I think, in the history of the church in North America, where that many people came together to, not only hear about Christ and celebrate Him, but to take the gospel out to the four corners of the nation and beyond to the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> You could literally do a documentary on Explo in terms of the generation of leadership in the church today that can be traced back to that event\u2014again, most baptisms <em>ever<\/em> in the Southern Baptist\u2014400,000 \/ 1972. My parents had their honeymoon at Explo \u201972\u2014how about that?\u2014and were saved in the Jesus movement. Ronnie Floyd, President of the Southern Baptist Convention, was there. Mike Huckabee was there\u2014his story \/ Sean Astin\u2019s \u201cOne Way\u201d story in the film\u2014comes from Mike Huckabee\u2019s testimony when I interviewed him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just felt like: \u201cIt is time! It\u2019s time for another Jesus movement. It\u2019s time for another Great Awakening.\u201d I feel like we are ready\u2014it\u2019s time to unify around that concept. I\u2019m <em>privileged<\/em> to be a small voice in bringing a story that has not been told loudly enough, or often enough, or really at all\u2014and bringing it to the forefront to say, \u201cLook what God did!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, all the stories that I heard from the Jesus movement\u2014I remember Michael Catt telling me one of a prayer meeting with teenagers that went all night at his school in their gym\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014a young girl coming in\u2014just out of curiosity because of the cars. She couldn\u2019t get five feet into the room before she dropped to her knees and said, \u201cWill someone tell me how to be saved?\u201d Things like this were happening. And I remember\u2014when I started doing the research for <em>Woodlawn<\/em>, I found on eBay<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014there is a <em>Time <\/em>magazine\/1971 and also a <em>Life <\/em>magazine\/1972\u2014it\u2019s \u201cThe Great Jesus Rally in Dallas.\u201d <em>Time <\/em>magazine was labeled, \u201cThe Jesus Revolution.\u201d It was like a ten-page spread on something happening, so undeniable, in a generation that Jesus was on the cover of <em>Time <\/em>magazine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo what we\u2019re saying with <em>Woodlawn<\/em>\u2014the reason that we\u2019re doing it \/ the reason we want you to be involved\u2014is we\u2019re not done until something happens, so undeniable again, in our generation, that Jesus makes the cover of <em>Time <\/em>magazine for all the right reasons. I just feel like it\u2019s time. Nothing like that\u2014when you read that article, you just realize how much our \u201cHappy Meal\u201d-Christianity has atrophied and what we\u2019ve lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just think it almost makes me angry that I haven\u2019t experienced something like that in my time and in my generation. One of the major reasons we\u2019re doing <em>Woodlawn<\/em> is that film is a way that you can <em>taste<\/em> something that maybe you haven\u2019t experienced before in your own experience and your own life. It\u2019s a way for a generation to taste just a little bit of what revival \/ spiritual awakening\u2014whatever you want to call it\u2014feels like. My prayer is that by going to a football movie \/ an epic football movie, they get a taste of revival and awakening\u2014and they go through, maybe, a little bit of the journey that I\u2019ve gone through\u2014that I\u2019ve begun to crave it for myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI feel it is coming. We have two fundamental beliefs in making the film\u2014our team. We believe that the local church is the hope of the world \/ we believe that God can and will revive a generation. We feel like it is coming. I think God is going to do something in a generation of young people and in a generation of people today that we have not seen in 50 years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is a great rally cry. Going back to Explo \u201972, the guy who was in charge of it\u2014his name is Paul Eshleman\u2014was 28 years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, if we\u2019re looking at revival today, those of us who are a bit older in the church today are going to have to make room for a younger generation, and empower them, and cheer them on, as well as being a part of it. There were parents there [at Explo] \/ there were grandparents there; but I was 24. I didn\u2019t know <em>what<\/em> I was doing \/I know <em>why <\/em>I was there; but it gave an opportunity for us, as a group of young people, to unite around the cause of Jesus Christ and make Him the issue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll tell you\u2014all of the things we\u2019re facing today \/ that we see on the evening news\u2014all the racism, and the hatred, and the hopelessness of our nation\u2014desperately needing a moral and spiritual center. This movie captures what the answer is\u2014the hole in the heart of human beings is the need to know Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis movie champions that and will give people, I think, boldness as they watch it\u2014to think of some fresh ways they can proclaim Christ to their generation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want me to see if the recliner next to me is open at the theater for this evening?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Would you?! [Laughter] Will you buy the Coke? We need a <em>large<\/em> container of popcorn! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tExplain, Bob\u2014you did a good job, on an earlier broadcast, of explaining to our listeners why the opening week is so important, not just to go see an entertaining movie and to take others with you, but why it\u2019s so important for the future of this movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, every movie company in America is watching what happens at the box office this weekend for a number of reasons. They\u2019re watching to see what movies are going to show again next weekend. The ones that sell a lot of tickets this weekend will still be in theaters next weekend. If they sell a lot the next weekend, it stays like that. The ones\u2014if they have a soft opening: \u201cWell, we start to push those aside and make room for what we hope might be the better next film coming along.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut not only is it about this movie and this weekend, but when a movie like <em>Woodlawn<\/em> surprises Hollywood executives\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It sends a clear message.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014they all push back and go, \u201cOkay, what do we need to learn from this little movie that just exploded out here?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cMaybe people have a hunger for something other than the food we\u2019re feeding them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. They start to commission scripts and green light projects that have emphases like this because they really have less of an ideological core about the themes of their movies\u2014their core is really about the profit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014the money.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s really what\u2019s driving this. And if Christians are saying, and others are saying, \u201cI like movies that have this kind of a message to them,\u201d Hollywood will say, \u201cWe\u2019ll make those for you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s like I shared with you guys\u2014the thing driving a generation\u2019s decisions\u2014talk about sheep with no shepherd\u2014it\u2019s cultural anarchy. They\u2019re driven by this thing\u2014the <u>F<\/u>ear <u>o<\/u>f <u>M<\/u>issing <u>O<\/u>ut\u2014called FoMO. It\u2019s unfortunate because they\u2019ll consume anything that\u2019s popular. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> So we\u2019ve got to play on that playing field. So, the thesis is: \u201cIf enough Christians unify together and make enough noise together, we can get a generation back,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014using this curiosity \/ this insatiable need they have to belong. That\u2019s the idea\u2014it\u2019s a Jericho strategy of everyone having to yell at the same time\u2014in my business, it\u2019s the opening weekend of the movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNot only that\u2014foreign distribution is deemed by the U.S. box office\u2014that\u2019s how far it goes\u2014to the world. Our top 30 films\u2014we call them \u201cblockbusters\u201d of the year in America\u2014they are doing over 40 percent of all the box office, not in America, but in the <em>entire<\/em> world. This is the most fundamental opportunity for the gospel <em>ever<\/em>\u2014but we have to start thinking small\u2014and we have to start thinking, \u201cHow do we put the gospel on a grand stage?\u201d <em>Woodlawn <\/em>is that experiment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So here\u2019s what I\u2019ll say\u2014because there are some listeners, who are going: \u201cMan, I wish it was coming out next weekend because this weekend we\u2019re busy. We\u2019re going here\u2014can\u2019t do that,\u201d \u201c\u2026We\u2019re going to see Alabama play; so we can\u2019t go to the movie.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Roll Tide!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s what I would say\u2014if you can\u2019t get to the movie, go online to Fandango and buy two tickets for the 11:00 am showing on Saturday morning at your local Cineplex. You don\u2019t have to go\u2014just go buy two tickets.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I\u2019ll take it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right?\u2014because you\u2019re voting that way, whether you go see the movie now or not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> You know, the other way\u2014this is interesting\u2014no one has ever done this before\u2014but we\u2019re working\u2014you can go to WoodlawnMovie.com\u2014we\u2019re working with our good friends and partners at Fellowship of Christian Athletes and also our good friends and partners at the National Christian Foundation. FCA is lining up thousands of teams that can go see this movie. So FCA is ready. You can actually go onto our website, if you want, and actually sponsor student athletes to go see the movie for free.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you go!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Awesome!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> And FCA is ready\u2014not only to get those kids into the theater\u2014but to get them to hear the gospel afterwards and to disciple them. I mean, film is a one-way communication; but this is a way that we\u2019re facilitating discipleship. So, if you want to do sponsor a team or athletes, you can do it at WoodlawnMovie.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So the movie has a piece that was done by Campus Crusade for Christ, back then. So is Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014that\u2019s the present name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014has Cru come alongside this with college students?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> Cru is <em>so<\/em> involved\u2014and everyone at Cru. I was texting with Paul Eshleman\u2014who is just a hero of mine, obviously\u2014the <em>Jesus <\/em>film and Explo \u201972 \u2014they\u2019ve become such great partners and such great friends\u2014in working with their campus ministries \/ their city strategies. It\u2019s just amazing to see people\u2014again, I feel like Nehemiah, going before kings, and saying: \u201cI am broken-hearted for my generation. The walls of my generation are torn down. They are like sheep with no shepherd. <em>Please<\/em> help me take the most relevant, most powerful mechanism of delivery and share the gospel with them.\u201d Ben Affleck said it best: \u201cFilms are our children\u2019s education.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Cru has come to the table in such a huge way\u2014we\u2019re so grateful! My dad\u2014a part of his story of becoming a Christian was Campus Crusade for Christ \/ he and my mom\u2019s honeymoon was at Explo \u201972 \u2014so I wouldn\u2019t <em>be<\/em> here without the ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think your dad may need some help if he came to Explo \u201972 on his honeymoon. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> He was like you!! He was like you, in his early 20s, and he didn\u2019t know any better! \u2014you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fired up for Jesus!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> But I would say this\u2014I have the deepest respect for Campus Crusade. I would not be here and <em>Woodlawn<\/em> would not have been made if it were not for the ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I appreciate that. Jon, I just want to thank you for using your gifts for God\u2019s purposes and His glory. Keep on keeping on. Any way we can help\u2014we want to do that and fan the flames. I\u2019d encourage our listeners\u2014those of you who are prayer warriors\u2014pray for this movie\u2014that, at the end, as the credits roll, they\u2019ll get it. You\u2019ll have to wait and go to the movie to understand what I just said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Honestly, I\u2019m sitting here, rethinking the recliner strategy for the movie theater because I\u2019m thinking, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be hard to get up from the recliner and cheer at the end, like I\u2019m going to want to do.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> I would still do the recliner! [Laughter] If I had a recliner in my town\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d be there next to me?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jon:<\/strong> \u2014I would be there next to you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Alright, so here\u2019s the assignment: \u201cWe\u2019re going to rendezvous at the movie theater this weekend for the movie, <em>Woodlawn. <\/em>It opens tonight in theaters all across the country.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, as we\u2019ve said\u2014this is a key weekend to get out and see the film. If you\u2019d like to see the trailer\u2014you want to see what the movie looks like\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You\u2019ll see information right there about the movie, <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. You can watch the trailer online.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll just mention that there\u2019s also information there about our <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series. I\u2019d just encourage guys that: \u201cIf you\u2019ve not gone through the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series with a group of guys in your church\u2014in your small group, a group of dads and teenage sons going through it together, whatever works for you\u2014get the <em>Stepping<\/em> <em>Up<\/em> video series and some workbooks and go through it.\u201d Find out more about <em>Stepping<\/em> <em>Up<\/em> while you\u2019re, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our goal, here at FamilyLife, is to help provide you with practical biblical help and hope every day on this radio program. 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Barbara Rainey has created a new tool to help promote lively conversation around the dinner table. It\u2019s called \u201cUntie Your Story.\u201d It\u2019s a spool full of napkin ties, and each one has a question on it that will allow for some provocative discussions at your dinner table. It\u2019s our thank-you gift when you make a donation today. We really do appreciate your support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we are done for this week. Thanks for being with us. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk to a mom who\u2014she describes herself as a \u201cmean mom.\u201d Joanne Kraft has written a book called <em>The Mean Mom\u2019s Guide to Raising Great Kids.<\/em> We\u2019ll talk to her about all the stuff that mean moms do. 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