{"id":303702,"date":"2015-10-14T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-10-14T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/connecting-in-real-life\/"},"modified":"2015-10-14T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-10-14T15:00:00","slug":"connecting-in-real-life","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/connecting-in-real-life\/","title":{"rendered":"Connecting in Real Life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Is technology use fostering a sense of entitlement and discontent in our teens? Youth expert Dr. Kathy Koch explains that our youth expect choices,\u00a0which actually means making a\u00a0decision is harder because selecting one choice often eliminates another. This profoundly affects their spiritual decisions, as well as relational ones. 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Youth expert Dr. Kathy Koch explains that our youth are wired to expect choices, so decision making is harder.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-10-14.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If you or your teenager is really tired today, maybe technology is to blame. Here\u2019s Kathy Koch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy<\/strong>: This is the most sleep-deprived generation in the history of America. There\u2019s research that says all of us, even adults, sleep better if, in the last hour, we\u2019re not staring at a screen because they mess with the sleep patterns of the brain. I think children should not be sleeping with their cell phone. They need to get an alarm clock\u2014they don\u2019t need their phone in their room. No pads of any type \/ no rectangle\u2014no glowing rectangle in the bedroom at night. I don\u2019t think parents need it either.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Wednesday, October 14<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk today about how to get control of the technology in your life instead of letting the technology in your life control you. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. All of this talk this week about technology, and about screens, and all of that has brought to mind a very moving scene from a movie I saw years ago. It\u2019s actually a wedding scene in the movie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re wiping away a tear right now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s choking me up a little bit because the movie is that tender love story. Some of our listeners may have seen <em>Napoleon Dynamite <\/em>when it came out a few years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Many of our listeners didn\u2019t, Bob. They\u2019re wondering: \u201cWhat are you doing with your time?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014watching a movie called <em>Napoleon Dynamite<\/em>?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> <em>Napoleon Dynamite.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean, Bob, I\u2019ve never heard of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There\u2019s the song\u2014do you hear it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[<em>Always and Forever<\/em> Song]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s Napoleon\u2019s brother.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[<em>Always and Forever <\/em>Song]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAlright, we can turn that off now. Napoleon\u2019s brother\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s catchy. [Laughter] I can see why you watched it, Bob! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Such a good voice, too, don\u2019t you think? Here he is\u2014he\u2019s at his wedding\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Could we commemorate Bob? When he passes on, we have to do an autopsy of the brain. [Laughter] We just have to find out: \u201cWhat was going on in there, really?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWhat caused that?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Were there <em>two of them<\/em>?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWhat caused that?\u201d This was a wedding scene in the movie. Napoleon\u2019s brother is getting married to somebody he met in a chat room. He sings those touching words to her: \u201cI love technology, but not as much as you, you see; but I still love technology, always and forever.\u201d I\u2019ve actually sung that to my wife on occasion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes; I bet you have! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a guest, here on the broadcast, who is here to save us from this nonsense. [Laughter] Dr. Kathy Koch, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad to be here\u2014I think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI think,\u201d\u2014yes! She\u2019s written a book called <em>Screens and Teens: Connecting with Our Kids in a Wireless World. <\/em>That\u2019s really what it\u2019s all about\u2014it is staying connected with them\u2014I mean, all the way through the teen years. You cannot allow the bridge to get blown up by the teenager. You have to keep that bridge in place so you can be talking about great movies like <em>Napoleon<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014<em>Dynamite<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as we look at this, one of the issues all of us, as parents, have got to deal with is\u2014as we try to monitor what the screen involvement with our children looks like in our home, we first have to address our own screen involvement; don\u2019t we?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> We do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And if parents don\u2019t go there first, they\u2019re fighting a losing battle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> They are. Kids tell me, all of the time, that they very much resent being told to turn things off and put things away while their parent has something in their hand, while they\u2019re saying it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA good friend of mine established a policy, when her kids became school-aged\u2014that when they walked in the door from school, if she was on the phone, she said: \u201cMy kids are home. I\u2019ll talk to you later,\u201d and hung up. The children heard her immediately hang up. The first 30 minutes of them being home was their time\u2014snack time \/ \u201cHow was your day?\u201d you know, \u201cWhat do you have to do tonight?\u201d \u201cWhat are your goals and your dreams?\u201d They would just talk for 30 minutes, uninterrupted\u2014no technology, no TV, nothing on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was the kids\u2019 devoted \u201cMommy time.\u201d Then, after the first 30 minutes, if the kids got engaged with homework or went outside to play, then the mom might call that person back; but for the first 30 minutes that they were home, those kids knew, \u201cI am my mom\u2019s son,\u201d or \u201cI am my mom\u2019s daughter.\u201d That\u2019s so profound!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And there are so many messages, though\u2014that if a mom isn\u2019t connecting like this \/ a dad, too, in terms of daily decompressing \/ finding out what\u2019s going on: \u201cWhat are the messages they\u2019re hearing today?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, it can get boring listening to the stories; but every once in a while, they\u2019ll fire a zinger like the night when my son threw himself across the foot of our bed at 11:00 pm at night. I was nearly comatose; and he said, \u201cWell, Dad, I\u2019m all set for my honeymoon night!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I said, \u201cExcuse me?!\u201d [Laughter] I woke up! We started a conversation\u2014where he had been exposed to something that day in an educational setting that, frankly, I would call it sexual abuse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would call it pornography\u2014it shouldn\u2019t have happened. But the messages being sent to kids today are: \u201cThey need to be happy at all costs.\u201d It is a major message of the culture to both adults and children. Talk about how the Internet continues this brainwashing, going forward.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> I will do that, and then I want to come back to that 11:00 pm conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, start there then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Could I do that? Kids tell me, all the time\u2014that they like talking in the dark because they can\u2019t look at your eyes when they tell you something hard for you to hear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI recommend that, when we put our kids to bed\u2014or if they\u2019re older and we haven\u2019t put them to bed, but we know it is bedtime\u2014that we stand in the doorway\u2014we just stand there \/ pray or ponder. The kids might say, \u201cWhat\u2019s up, Dad?\u201d \u201cOh, I\u2019m just loving you from afar.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI <em>love<\/em> that your son was available, and that you were available, and that he knew that he could come to you when <em>he<\/em> was ready because, sometimes, kids don\u2019t talk to us because we go to them when we\u2019re ready, and we don\u2019t consider whether or not it\u2019s the right time or the right environment. Maybe they\u2019re stressed because there\u2019s a test tomorrow\u2014then don\u2019t talk to them about something, you know, difficult in that moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want our listeners to know that I turned the light on when my son said that. [Laughter] It was like: \u201cHello!! We\u2019re going to talk now.\u201d And it was interesting\u2014it was not only just a great moment\u2014but it was a continued connecting point, which is what I know you believe in\u2014it\u2019s the message of your book, <em>Screens and Teens.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou think parents have to fight their way through all of these messages to continue to connect with their kids. One of the messages, going back to my question, is: \u201cYou deserve complete happiness and fulfillment today.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re saying that technology is convincing kids that they deserve total happiness?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Absolutely. Sometimes, again, it\u2019s a parenting pattern, where we\u2019ve not been willing to be the parent\u2014we let them have whatever they want. So, they also believe that we want them to be happy\u2014that\u2019s our laziness\u2014let\u2019s call it that. I actually do say to my audiences, \u201cLet\u2019s call sin, \u2018sin\u2019.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, sometimes, it\u2019s not laziness, though. Sometimes, it means more work for us, like the mom who is a short-order cook for her family at breakfast and at dinner.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Right, because the kids want to be happy all the time. Mom was going to make meatloaf. They see the ground beef on the counter and they say: \u201cOh, Mom, make me a burger!\u201d \u201cOh, Mom, I want tacos.\u201d \u201cMom, don\u2019t you have leftover chicken from last night?\u201d The mom ends up wanting the kids to be happy to the extent that she sacrifices, big time, rather than saying: \u201cHey, we\u2019re having meatloaf. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAnd if you don\u2019t like it, you can go to bed hungry.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what\u2019s the warning about continuing to do that for kids? You\u2019re just training them; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Exactly, my friend. You\u2019re just training them\u2014they think that they can have what they want, when they want it, the way that they want it <em>now<\/em>. That\u2019s not the way the world works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. I get it when it comes to meatloaf or tacos, but how does technology convince our kids that everything should make them happy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> We can have anything we want now. I can go to a website and get <em>one<\/em> song for 99 cents and have it instantly. The restart concept, where nothing ever really breaks\u2014you just reboot. I like that you can reboot, but you don\u2019t reboot through life. There are real consequences of real sin choices. We have a generation of kids who may not know that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother one would be: \u201cEverything is easy. You know, there\u2019s spell-check, and there\u2019s copy, and paste. There\u2019s Siri on the phone, and there\u2019s GPS.\u201d I like all of that \/ I\u2019m not opposed to any of it. It\u2019s training our children, though, to expect the whole world to work like that because they\u2019re connected to technology so often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have become used to\u2014I was going to say \u201caddicted,\u201d but I think \u201cused to\u201d is a better term\u2014I have become used to the idea that any information I want, at any point, is instantly available. And, honestly, it\u2019s kind of fun\u2014when you\u2019re sitting at dinner and your wife says to you, \u201cDo you remember that old song\u2026?\u201d I say, \u201cHang on!\u201d and I can pull up the old song and I can play it. Or when you say, \u201cWhatever happened to So-and-so?\u201d You pull it out from the hip, and you\u2019ve got it right there. What\u2019s wrong with that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> [Laughing] Be careful! We need to call Mary Ann at this point\u2014his wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> His wife. As long as she doesn\u2019t feel dismissed in the moment\u2014I think there\u2019s, maybe, nothing wrong with that. However, it does show us that information is all we need, and information is available. That scares me because wisdom is the higher value.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you make a point in your book that relationship\u2014knowing people, interacting with people, going deep with people, having friendships that go through difficult times\u2014that\u2019s a part of real life they have to be trained in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Absolutely\u2014very good point. And that might short-circuit\u2014that quick use of instant technology. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt can be fun\u2014with my nieces and nephew\u2014we\u2019ll be watching a movie. Someone will say, \u201cNow, what other movie was that person in?\u201d And we instantly get the answer. So, again, it\u2019s not a horrible thing; but it teaches children that they can always have the answer. Well, guess what? There are some questions that aren\u2019t that easy to answer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> And they might stop asking those questions because they can\u2019t handle the ambiguity and the non-answer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Or they might move from a question like, \u201cWhat other TV show was that actor in?\u201d to a question like: \u201cWhy am I here? What is life really all about?\u201d If you Google<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that, you\u2019re going to get a whole lot of different answers; and some of them aren\u2019t so good; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Great\u2014great concept.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, to the young person, who grows up, thinking, \u201cI deserve complete happiness,\u201d it\u2019s real easy for them to fall into this rut \/ habit\u2014way of thinking\u2014that, \u201cI\u2019m entitled to whatever I want, when I want it.\u201d That feeds consumer debt, as a young person, where their credit card begins to satisfy their every want. It can be very dangerous. Comment on entitlement today, and what you see happening with teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> It really scares me because they\u2019re dissatisfied with anything \u201cold\u201d if there\u2019s something new that comes out. I used to have a flip-phone, and I didn\u2019t need a smartphone. People were like, \u201cWell, you know, they have better phones now.\u201d \u201cOh, I know. I don\u2019t need one.\u201d \u201cYes, but there are better phones.\u201d \u201cYes, but mine works.\u201d \u201cYes, but there are better phones!\u201d \u201cBut mine works.\u201d It\u2019s always about the new, and the better, and the bigger. I think it\u2019s tragic, actually, that they wait in line in a tent at midnight for the store to open, as if, \u201cWhat would happen if I don\u2019t get the newest and the greatest?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe TV commercial in America is what trains children to understand that there\u2019s more out there for them; right? And I\u2019m not opposed to people buying something new if they need it or if they\u2019ve saved for it. None of us are opposed to that, but it\u2019s the culture that feeds the lie that they deserve it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s another, I guess, temptation or something else that the Internet really feeds in teenagers today\u2014as far as that is concerned, in us, as adults\u2014in that: \u201cI\u2019ve got to have a choice. I need some options here.\u201d Comment on that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> All the things that we play with are drop-down menu-driven; okay? So, TV, cable, DVR, email, cell phone, Excel spreadsheets, word processing, gaming, Wii<sup>\u2122<\/sup>\u2014 drop-down menu. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose of us, who are older, have a brain that was understanding that choice is a <em>privilege<\/em>. Young people are having their brain developed by the technology they\u2019re using in their developmental years, so their brains are being wired to expect choice. If we don\u2019t offer them a choice, they complain \/ they whine. If we offer them two\u2014but they wanted a third\u2014they argue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can\u2019t tell you how many parents have said to me: \u201cMy kids argue way more than I ever thought they would, and I thought I was a good parent.\u201d I\u2019m the blessed person who gets to say: \u201cNo, you may be a very good parent. This is the lie of technology\u2014training your kids to believe that choice is their right.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, I hadn\u2019t thought about this until just now; but I wonder\u2014Bob, we\u2019ve talked about this on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>on numerous occasions\u2014we have the oldest age of getting married today in our country than we\u2019ve ever had in our history. It\u2019s over the age of 29 for guys and 27 \u00bd for women.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Napoleon Dynamite\u2019s brother was, I think, in his early 30\u2019s when\u2014well, that probably doesn\u2019t factor in here. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That is really, really frightening\u2014that you remember \/ that you remember that he was in his 30\u2019s. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the point is\u2014that if we live in an age that is convincing and hard-wiring their brains to think, \u201cI need choices,\u201d\u2014marriage is saying, \u201cI choose you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Big choices are very hard for them to make because, once they\u2019ve made them, it limits their choices. If I choose to marry this person, I can\u2019t marry that person. Now, I have the first argument and I think, \u201cOh, I should have waited!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is another reason why pastors are telling me that\u2014on a Sunday, a kid is sold out to Jesus: \u201cI want to get baptized! It\u2019s all about Jesus.\u201d By next Sunday, they\u2019ve changed their mind. I\u2019ve actually had youth look at me and say, \u201cDr. Kathy, your Jesus made sense to me tonight, but there might be a better option tomorrow.\u201d I had a young person, last summer, say to me: \u201cDr. Kathy, the Jesus that you proclaimed made sense to me tonight. I know that my youth pastor would love for me to humble myself and say, \u2018Yes\u2019; but I\u2019m going to college in the fall. They might have someone different there to offer me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Comment on how you came to faith and just share that question that you were asked that, ultimately, caused you to make a commitment to Jesus Christ. I think there might be a person, listening right now, who might be on the fence about this choice\u2014which, by the way, is <em>the most important <\/em>choice you\u2019ll ever make in your entire life. It\u2019s where you will spend eternity because you\u2019re basing your life upon: \u201cWho is your Savior?\u201d Is it you? Or is it Jesus Christ, who came to die for your sins?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> I would love to share that! I was raised in church by great people. I went to college and roomed with a girl of a different faith. I got a little bit confused. I thought church was the issue; but I started going to her church, and they did things very differently. I went back and talked to my youth pastor, who, praise God, was a believer. At every break, I had all kinds of questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the summer, after my freshman year in college\u2014when I was there, yet again, with more questions about why they did it this way and we do it this way and:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhy does God allow these things to happen to these people?\u201d\u2014he opened the Word of God again and he said: \u201cKathy, you\u2019re always going to have questions. That\u2019s how God made your mind, but do you know enough to believe yet?\u201d I felt so honored that he knew who I was and received who I was that he challenged me to say, \u201cDo you know enough to believe yet?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFaith in Christ only requires that you know that Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead. Everything else is understood later and solidifies our faith. Then we grow in our love and our contentment with Christ in our choice to be obedient, and to realize that God\u2019s commands and God\u2019s boundaries are <em>healthy<\/em> for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe showed me Colossians 2:3\u2014that \u201c\u2026in Christ is hidden all wisdom and knowledge.\u201d I came to faith in Christ for His wisdom. I come from a great family. I was deeply loved, and I wasn\u2019t aware that I had a need for love; but I <em>really<\/em> wanted answers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe showed me, in the holy Word of God, that the Holy Spirit would be a gift, and that He would be my teacher, and that the Scriptures would make more sense <em>after<\/em> I came to faith in Christ and not before\u2014so I didn\u2019t wait. That day\u2014I tell young people that that day I turned off my head, and I turned on my heart. As an act of obedience, I said, \u201cYes,\u201d to Christ. Then I turned my head back on and kept searching the Scriptures so I would know more about this God who chose to save me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think that is a great observation. You didn\u2019t turn your brain off\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to become a believer and a follower of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, your youth pastor said to you, \u201cYou will understand more after you\u2019re saved than you\u2019re able to understand before you\u2019re saved because you don\u2019t have the Holy Spirit to guide you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> It\u2019s faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, to that person who\u2019s listening to us, right now\u2014maybe you\u2019re like Kathy\u2014you need someone to ask you the same question. So, Kathy, ask the person the question, and then tell them what to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> Do you know enough to believe yet? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the reasons that is such an important question today is that we are inundated with information. There are videos, and websites, and sermons from this, that, and the other church. There\u2019s <em>so<\/em> <em>much<\/em> that we\u2019re exposed to that we can actually get more confused than ever before. Be in the holy Word of God, which is the Truth and the Way. Be in a Bible-teaching church and ask questions of what I call truth-talkers and wisdom-walkers, who have proven themselves to you to love you and to want the best for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you know enough to believe yet?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So what are you going to do, as a listener? Answer the question: \u201cDo you know enough to believe?\u201d If you don\u2019t, then open the Book\u2014go to the Gospel of John, which is the fourth book in the New Testament\u2014and start reading it. Read it through as many times as you can possibly read it in the next 30 days because it was a book that was give to you that you might believe that Jesus is the Messiah \/ He is the Savior\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and that, believing, you might have eternal life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was going to point people to a link on our website; but I\u2019m wondering if that\u2019s okay to do, as we\u2019re talking about screens? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think, after we\u2019ve pointed them to the Bible. [Laughter] It is the most important decision you\u2019ll ever make in your life. I would just challenge you: \u201cIf you\u2019re just on the fence and you\u2019re ready to step over, do it! Don\u2019t wait! I mean, why would you want to wait to have a personal relationship with the Creator of the universe?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> And the Creator of you!\u2014because this book was written to us by our Creator. It\u2019s a love letter and a life letter. It\u2019s intimate, personal, and <em>amazing<\/em>. You\u2019ll see things in it that He wants you to see when you\u2019re ready to see them. That\u2019s why reading it more than once can be so valuable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were created by God, in His image, for His glory. It says that in Isaiah 43, verse 7, which is a book in the Old Testament\u2014we need to take that seriously. Although the Internet is full of resources, some of which are good\u2014it is the Word of God. It\u2019s not just a quick app on a phone and one verse a day that\u2019s going to necessarily take us all the way to that decision to trust Christ\u2014it\u2019s the Book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay, so here\u2019s what we\u2019ve got. We\u2019ve got a link to the Gospel of John on our website. So, if somebody says, \u201cI don\u2019t even know where to find the Gospel of John,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Way to go, Bob! Way to go!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> That\u2019s great.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014we\u2019ve got a link.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You deliver\u2014way to go!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It will take you\u2014you can read through the Gospel of John, online. Then there\u2019s a link to an article that\u2019s called \u201cTwo Ways to Live\u201d that outlines the one choice\u2014the most important choice\u2014that\u2019s in front of everybody\u2014that is: \u201cAre you going to live in a way where you call the shots? Or are you going to live in a way where God\u2019s calling the shots?\u201d That\u2019s really the question that\u2019s at the core of all of this; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that encounter that you were just talking about changed Kathy Koch\u2019s life. I just want to thank God for changing your life and giving you a great mind, and for Celebrating Children. Thank you for your ministry and your writing. I hope you\u2019ll come back again and join us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong> I would be honored to do that. Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Our website, again, is FamilyLifeToday.com. That\u2019s where you will find the link that I talked about to the Gospel of John. It\u2019s where you\u2019ll find the article called \u201cTwo Ways to Live.\u201d You can find Kathy Koch\u2019s book, <em>Screens and Teens<\/em>, which we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can order a copy of the book from us, online. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d Look for information about the book and the links that we\u2019ve talked about here. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. You can also order Kathy Koch\u2019s book, <em>Screens and Teens, <\/em>when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d\u20141-800-358-6329. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, what we\u2019ve just been talking about\u2014the need for spiritual transformation in a person\u2019s life\u2014that is foundational to everything we talk about, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Our conviction is that the most important relationship in your life must be your relationship with God, which is made possible only because of the work that Jesus Christ has done on our behalf. It\u2019s from that foundation that strong marriages and strong families grow and thrive. That\u2019s why, every day, here on <em>FamilyLife Today, <\/em>we offer biblical help and hope for your marriage and your family because we believe that it is that relationship with God, anchored in what He says to us in His Word, that is fundamental to everything that we do in marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we appreciate those of you who join with us in that mission of sharing practical biblical help and hope for your marriage and your family\u2014those of you who support this ministry, either as monthly Legacy Partners or who will, occasionally, make a donation in support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We are grateful every time we hear from a listener.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, if you could help with a donation today, we\u2019d like to express our thanks by sending you something new from Barbara Rainey. It\u2019s a resource called \u201cUntie Your Story,\u201d designed to promote dinnertime conversation. These are napkin ties with questions on them that will spark some lively conversation around the dinner table. The \u201cUntie Your Story\u201d resource is our thank-you gift when you make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper right-hand corner of the screen to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make your donation over the phone. Or you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we are going to talk about a different kind of screen. We\u2019re going to talk about the big screen \/ the movie screen because there\u2019s a new movie coming out this weekend that we think you ought to be aware of. This may be a movie you want to take your teens to go see\u2014it\u2019s a movie called <em>Woodlawn<\/em>. We\u2019ll talk with the producer and director of the movie, Jon Erwin, tomorrow. I hope you can be here for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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