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Youth expert Dr. Kathy Koch examines how technology is shaping the way our kids think. Dr. Koch encourages parents to monitor their children's technology use.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-10-12.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If you\u2019re a parent, you\u2019re aware that there\u2019s an age limit on Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>; right? A child is supposed to be 13 before he or she has his or her own Facebook page. Kathy Koch\u2014she\u2019s concerned that a lot of children under the age limit already have their own Facebook page.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>You know what really scares me is the parent will look at me and go, \u201cOh, it\u2019s not a big deal.\u201d That\u2019s a <em>huge<\/em> deal because you just allowed yourself to say \u201cYes,\u201d to the no-thing. I think parents go: \u201cOh, but they were complaining; and their brother was on it,\u201d and \u201cThat\u2019s the only way they can see their cousins\u2019 pictures.\u201d I\u2019m like: \u201cNo! They can look over your shoulder when you\u2019re opening your account. You allowed yourself to be manipulated by a whining, complaining 12-year-old? What are you going to do when she\u2019s 16 and she wants a little bit of something?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, October 12<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. If you have teens, and you have screens, then you probably need to pay attention to what we\u2019re going to talk about today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You will probably have to do most of the work here because I\u2019m going to be tweeting while we do this; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I was wondering if, in your review of the book that we\u2019re covering today, Bob\u2014and our author\u2014if there\u2019s been any twinge of conscience in your own life because of what we\u2019re talking about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I really think other people need to hear what she has to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, you\u2019re continuing to be very good at pointing the log in other people\u2019s\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You had to go there; didn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I did; I did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we have with us a special guest\u2014Dr. Kathy Koch joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKathy is a delightful person, and we\u2019re thrilled to have her on the broadcast. Welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Thank you. I\u2019m thrilled to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She is the founder and president of Celebrate Kids. She speaks internationally and has spoken to more than 30 countries\u2014to teachers, parents, and children. She\u2019s an educator and also an author. She has written a book that Bob is embracing totally.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m holding it right here\u2014I have her book in one hand \/ I have my smartphone in the other hand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s called <em>Screens and Teens<\/em>. I\u2019ll say it again: <em>Screens and Teens: Connecting with Our Kids in a Wireless World.<\/em> This is really a giant deal for parents to consider today; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>It is. I\u2019m glad you recognize that. If the parents don\u2019t recognize it, and if they\u2019re not willing to consider their role modeling, then our kids are in even more trouble.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So you\u2019re actually starting out with Bob\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>I was thinking of doing that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the role modeling issue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, you know, it\u2019s interesting\u2014because about five years ago, here at FamilyLife, we started talking about the classifications\u2014Boomers, and Gen-X, and Millennials\u2014and all of that. We said, \u201cThis group that\u2019s coming up\u2014this is the screen generation.\u201d I mean, that\u2019s the name we\u2019ve used because, more than anything else, that identifies this group\u2014their interaction with technology is shaping <em>everything<\/em> about them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes. That\u2019s because it\u2019s changing their brain. Our brains were finished when we began using technology\u2014so it hasn\u2019t had the same deep-rooted effect upon our character and our belief system.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re talking about adults\u2019 brains.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Right; right. Your brain is finished when you\u2019re 25. So, if you\u2019re listening and you\u2019re 25 or older, we\u2019re finished.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s over. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>It\u2019s as good as it gets. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This is explaining a lot!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes. And also relevant to that\u2014if you\u2019re above 33 or 34 years old, you\u2019ve never known life without technology\u2014but for this younger generation, change with technology is so fast. It is influencing their brain differently from ours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and from the very beginning, because how many three-year-olds today have a smartphone or a tablet in their lap?\u2014and they\u2019re learning to play games on that\u2014not board games like I played\u2014not Candy Land and Chutes and Ladders. They\u2019re playing interactive games on screens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Interactive with the screen\u2014not interactive with a parent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And that\u2019s a significant difference; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>It\u2019s a <em>huge<\/em> difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>In fact, it\u2019s causing addictions within young people today. You write in your book that four in ten young people fear they are addicted to the Internet. In fact, you have a quote\u2014and I\u2019m not going to tell our listeners how old this person is until I finish the quote. This girl says: \u201cThe Internet nearly always controls my actions. I have been told that I am addicted to the Internet and prefer its company rather than being with other people. I feel <em>lost<\/em> without the Internet.\u201d That little girl was 12 years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow can you be addicted by the age of 12?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Constant use and believing that it is your security \/ it is your everything\u2014it is your window to the world. It is where you go when you\u2019re anxious \/ it\u2019s where you go when you\u2019re feeling unknown because you don\u2019t have people in your life to affirm you because they\u2019re also using hand-held devices and surfing the Internet for their own purposes, quite possibly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, as I read that, I thought to myself: \u201cWhat if we came in to record these programs with Kathy, and Dennis said: \u2018Now look. We\u2019re going to be doing these programs here. Let\u2019s just turn off our smartphones.\u2019\u201d Now, I\u2019m not going to be using my smartphone while we\u2019re doing these interviews\u2014I don\u2019t think very much\u2014but if you told me to turn it off, I\u2019d start to get a little anxious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s something about the tethering \/ about the connectedness that I\u2019m addicted to? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let me tell you what was happening to me as I was preparing for this broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was reading your book, okay; [Laughter] and it was funny\u2014I stopped my preparation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014to check email.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; I knew that was coming. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I did\u2014I checked it. I also went online to do a little research as well, but it wasn\u2019t on this subject; okay? [Laughter] It really is interesting\u2014we\u2019re not of the digital generation, but even <em>we<\/em> are impacted by this as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Definitely. That need to multi-task \/ that need to avoid something which is boring\u2014which, of course, was not my book\u2014that\u2019s not what I\u2019m saying.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Of course not. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>But what happened was\u2014my book triggered an idea that made you think of something else that you wanted to go research. We go off on those little bunny trails; and hopefully, in our maturity, we come back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it\u2019s all within a fingertip\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014I mean, the world, and Wikipedia<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and Google<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. It\u2019s <em>amazing<\/em> what\u2019s available to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think of myself as being attention-deficit; but since technology has become more a part of my life, I\u2019ve become more attention-deficit. I bounce from thing to thing more quickly and go: \u201cWhat was I looking up here? Oh yes.\u201d Why is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>You know, there\u2019s evidence that suggests that some use of some technology awakens the ADD within a person\u2019s brain or the ADHD. So, if when we were created, we had a tendency toward Attention Deficit Disorder, but it hadn\u2019t been awakened yet because we were raised well and we had teachers, who were really able to keep us focused, but we start to video game \/ we start to multi-task\u2014it can actually awaken those sections within the brain. Now, we become more like we have Attention Deficit Disorder\u2014and we may not clinically have it\u2014but we behave as if we do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think this is a historic moment, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019ve just diagnosed Bob. [Laughter] It has taken us 22 years to be able to figure this out. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>No, you\u2019ve had this diagnosis for awhile\u2014I just haven\u2019t been willing to own it. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the thing for parents\u2014this is the world we live in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can\u2019t pretend like it\u2019s not\u2014we can\u2019t say, \u201cOkay, the way I\u2019m going to deal with this is remove all screens; and we\u2019re going to go live in a cabin in the woods.\u201d This is how you\u2019re going to exist in the world in our day. So what do we need to know, as parents, and what do we need to be doing, as parents, so that we raise relationally-healthy sons and daughters in a screen world?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>We need to balance our lives. We need a little bit of tech and a little bit of outdoor nature. We need a little bit of tech and a little bit, \u201cLet\u2019s go fishing.\u201d We need a little bit of tech research and a little bit of library research, which is <em>so<\/em> <em>free<\/em> in America. It\u2019s not abandoning it all because a lot of it is very good\u2014it\u2019s how we use it, when we use it, why we use, how much of it we use; and how young are our children when we let them use it without our supervision. Those are the issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would add an additional answer to that question\u2014that you write in your book: \u201cAs parents look at the use of technology, they need to understand\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014this is really, I think, the big idea of your book\u2014\u201cthat there are spiritual implications in the lives of your son or daughter for a <em>lifetime<\/em>, based upon how they begin this process of using technology, going forward.\u201d Talk about the spiritual implications.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s so great. I\u2019m so grateful that you saw that here. The first lie that I address, for instance, is the lie that \u201cI am the center of my own universe,\u201d which is so tragic because that\u2019s a <em>lie<\/em>. God is the center of the universe. Do we know that, and do we behave as if He is; or do we forget that when we\u2019re in our living rooms, if you will? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, when I was a child, if the phone rang, I had to answer it because I had no clue who was going to be there. Now, when my phone rings, I can look at it and go, \u201cOh, I\u2019m not in the mood,\u201d and choose to disengage. When I was a child, I had to buy the whole album, whether I wanted one song or all the songs. Today\u2019s kids can hear a song, capture that one song, and feel good about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was a kid, you took a whole roll of film to the store, dropped it off, had it developed \/ a week later, picked up the pictures, paid for them all, whether they were good or not. Today\u2019s kids can take a picture, auto-correct it, crop it, Photoshop<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> in somebody who they wish were there, and that becomes their proof of their existence that day. They can make the world be the way they want it to be\u2014they think. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And build it around themselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Exactly. Their popularity on Facebook or Instagram\u2014what they know, what they don\u2019t know, they can make up things, they can talk about just the slice of their life that they want people to know and they can ignore the rest, which of course is very dangerous as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s not that technology is causing us to think we\u2019re the center of the universe; we\u2019re born thinking we\u2019re the center of the universe. The issue is that technology enables it like never before; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Oh, that\u2019s such a great point; exactly. Parents, who are young themselves, who have bought the lie that they\u2019re the center of their own universe\u2014that\u2019s really dangerous; right?\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because now, you have young adults raising young children; and they <em>all<\/em> think they\u2019re the center\u2014so they can ignore the Bible, they can ignore God and church, they can ignore their neighbor. This is one of the reasons, by the way, that they\u2019re lonely\u2014because can you imagine 20 kids in a room and they all think they\u2019re the center of the universe? Why would they talk to anyone?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Only if those people will affirm that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cServe my needs in some way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Exactly!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And then start thinking about those kids growing up\u2014to start dating each other and then marrying one another\u2014you know, two people, who think they\u2019re both the center of the universe, in the most intimate of all relationships on the planet\u2014marriage. That\u2019s not going to work at all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>You\u2019re exactly right. I love what you\u2019re both saying because it\u2019s been an issue for centuries, certainly\u2014the parenting culture\u2014our parents over-emphasizing their children. For instance, if parents are on social media\u2014and I\u2019m not opposed to social media \/ I\u2019m all over it myself\u2014however, don\u2019t post more pictures of your kids than you post of yourself. Do <em>not<\/em> make your profile picture on Facebook a picture of your child! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are <em>not<\/em> your child! You are <em>yourself<\/em>. Does that make sense?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Because that\u2019s one of the ways that kids pick up, \u201cOh, not only am I the center of my universe, I\u2019m actually the center of <em>Mom\u2019s<\/em> universe.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. I was going to say, \u201cAnd don\u2019t post a picture of your cat.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Cats already think they\u2019re the center of the universe\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They do!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and they don\u2019t even have technology to back it up. It\u2019s just so strong in them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I used to have a cat. I loved Snow White\u2014she was a good friend.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, so if technology enables this\u2014I\u2019m sorry I jumped all over Snow White there [Laughter]\u2014but if technology enables and fuels this innate \u201cI am the center of existence,\u201d how do moms and dads combat that with their kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>We live out the one anothers in the family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe teach the one anothers of the New Testament\u2014that say things like, \u201cLove one another,\u201d \u201cHonor one another,\u201d \u201cPray for one another,\u201d \u201cSubmit to one another,\u201d \u201cDo not judge one another.\u201d There\u2019s actually\u2014one of the one anothers is, \u201cDo not bite and devour one another.\u201d I see us doing that to each other\u2014trying to step on each other to get to a higher platform: \u201cI want more friends than you have,\u201d \u201cI want my picture to get more likes than yours had faster than yours did.\u201d Oh my goodness! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo \u201cgreet one another with a holy kiss\u201d\u2014that\u2019s in the New Testament! We need to be greeting one another, but we\u2019re <em>not<\/em> because we\u2019re looking down at a handheld device and checking out our score or checking out the latest activity on some legitimate website. Again, I\u2019m not against checking out a score for a basketball game on a website. However, we don\u2019t do it if we\u2019re going to diminish the people in the room while we\u2019re doing it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What you\u2019re talking about here really goes back, long before interaction with technology, to a philosophy in the home that says, \u201cLife is not going to revolve around you, but we are here to love and serve one another.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe talk about whether it\u2019s a child-centered home or whether it\u2019s a God-centered home. You really have to make sure that your kids understand: \u201cHere\u2019s the way all of us interact with one another. It\u2019s not about us. It\u2019s about how we can love and serve each other.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; in fact, all we have to do is go back to the words of Jesus when He was asked: \u201cWhat\u2019s the great commandment? What is it all about?\u201d\u2014I mean, \u201cWhat\u2019s life all about here?\u201d Jesus said, \u201cYou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This the great and first commandment, and the second is like it; you shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets [Matthew 22:35-40].\u201d He wrapped up the Old Testament, basically, in these two commands. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you\u2019re talking about here is: \u201cDon\u2019t let your love of data\u2014of the quest to find information, or games, or competition, whatever it is\u2014steal from your child the privilege of beginning to learn that human beings \/ other children their age are made in the image of God. They have value, and that we need to respect one another and bring value to one another. I think that\u2019s the lesson of your book here\u2014is to teach our children where real life is found. First of all, vertically with God; but secondly, loving those He puts in our path along the way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Amen and amen\u2014I totally agree with that. Our children are trying to get their value from their connections through technology\u2014how many friends they have \/ how many times they\u2019re mentioned on social media for instance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen God says, in His Holy Word, that we all have value\u2014so for us to make sure our kids know: \u201cYes, you are important,\u201d and \u201cYou are important to me,\u201d \u201cYou\u2019re important because God made you, and He didn\u2019t have to,\u201d and \u201cYou\u2019re important because Jesus died for you, and He didn\u2019t have to,\u201d and \u201cYou\u2019re important because the Holy Spirit comes in to reside within you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou have great value, finished at the cross\u2014additional value because you\u2019re mine and God chose us as your parents,\u201d and \u201cWe will take our responsibility seriously. It\u2019s not that you\u2019re more important than anyone else\u2014<em>everyone<\/em> has value, and that\u2019s how we expect you to behave,\u201d and \u201cIf we see you diminishing others because you feel so puffed up, we will deal with that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And as you say that, I think about the nature of social media today and technology. It gives teenagers access to numerous relationships\u2014I mean, hundreds of them \/ potentially thousands of relationships. How do we teach our children the value of an individual human being when our children are now learning to tweet in bite-sized sentences to another human being, and that\u2019s as deep as they ever go with another human being in relationship?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>And is it even a relationship; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, really.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes. Is it a superficial number on a list? Children today collect people\u2014people are their commodity. We might collect stuff, but we don\u2019t treat people that way. I don\u2019t have 5,000 friends on Facebook\u2014I have 5,000 people who have chosen to affiliate with me on Facebook. We use the words carefully, and we use them well, and we define them well for our kiddos. I think we teach friendship skills. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe should realize that friendship is challenging today. It is challenging partly because we think we are the center of our own universe\u2014so \u201cWhy do I need anyone?\u201d And then we have all these connections that are superficial, and we don\u2019t know how to be transparent. We don\u2019t know how to be vulnerable, unless it\u2019s for the shock value. We also don\u2019t know how to be accountable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I worry about: \u201cWill we be transparent with God if we\u2019ve never learned to be transparent, if you will, horizontally here\u2014with moms and dads, and siblings, and grandparents\u2014who we\u2019re supposed to be able to trust with our heart, and our soul, and our head? So to teach friendship skills: \u201cHow do you discern who\u2019s for you and who\u2019s against you?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So at what age would you let a child begin to dabble in the Internet and in these matters?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Well, 13\u2019s the legal age for most of the social media things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>For Facebook \/ for Twitter\u2014those kinds of things; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Right. I wouldn\u2019t do it below that. I\u2019ve had parents go: \u201cOh, but they were complaining; and their brother was on it,\u201d and \u201cThat\u2019s the only way they can see their cousins\u2019 pictures.\u201d I\u2019m like: \u201cNo! They can look over your shoulder when you\u2019re opening your account.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They get those arguments out of child boot camp. They go to some boot camp, at some point during school\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They\u2019re trained to complain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and they get trained to complain and manipulate: \u201cYou\u2019re the only parent in the world who didn\u2019t allow me, as a 13-year-old or a 12-year-old, to go online.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>Yes. But you know what really scares me is\u2014the parent will look at me and go, \u201cOh, it\u2019s not a big deal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s a <em>huge<\/em> deal because you just allowed yourself to say \u201cYes,\u201d to the no-thing; and you allowed yourself to be manipulated by a whining, complaining 12-year-old. What are you going to do when she\u2019s 16 and she wants a little bit of something? \u201cOh, that\u2019ll be different.\u201d No it won\u2019t because you\u2019ve just allowed your child to be the center of her own universe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, it will be different\u2014it\u2019ll be much more painful, at that point\u2014no doubt about it! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy: <\/strong>That\u2019s good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think what we want to impress parents with here\u2014and as far as that goes, grandparents as well\u2014you are the adult. You must set a course for your home. If you don\u2019t set a course for your home, I promise you\u2014the world will and the world will influence your child to take over your home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe haven\u2019t really talked about\u2014well, we talked a little bit about a child-centric home\u2014but I think a lot of families really suffer from this\u2014of giving their children too many privileges\u2014letting them experience too many things of the world at a point when they don\u2019t have the spiritual maturity, the emotional maturity, the relational maturity to handle issues. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what parents have to do is\u2014we have to keep our boundaries clear. At the point you feel like you\u2019re getting manipulated by your child, you need to take a step back and not let these little mud-wrestlers pull you into the mud puddle\u2014and they\u2019ll do it\u2014I promise you. If they get you in the mud puddle, they\u2019ll win because they\u2019ll figure out a way to make you feel like you are the only parent in the world who has such standards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStand firm \/ stand strong. At the point you don\u2019t know what to do, let me give you a profound piece of advice \/ it\u2019s in the Bible\u2014pray. Ask Almighty God, \u201cHelp us.\u201d You know what I think? I\u2019ve said this many times on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>: \u201cGod loves the prayer of a helpless parent.\u201d I think He really does feel sorry for us, as parents: \u201cYou know what? I\u2019m going to help you. I\u2019m going to give you wisdom to know what to do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, I hope parents are hearing us say that how you deal with technology in your home is really a part of a bigger issue. That bigger issue is the values and the wisdom that you\u2019re going to use as you raise your children, as you parent your children, as you shepherd them in the process of growing from childhood to adulthood. Technology\u2019s just one factor in that, but it\u2019s a significant factor in our culture today. This is an area where moms and dads do need to be on the same page, and they need to be consistent, and they need to really wrestle through, \u201cWhat are the values we\u2019re trying to instill in our home?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, Kathy, your book helps a lot of parents with that. The book is called <em>Screens and Teens: Connecting with Our Kids in a Wireless World<\/em>. It\u2019s a book we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You\u2019ll find a copy of Kathy Koch\u2019s book there. Again, it\u2019s called <em>Screens and Teens<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click where it says, \u201cGO DEEPER\u201d, in the upper left-hand corner of the screen. You can order a copy of the book from us, online; or if you\u2019d prefer, you can call us and say, \u201cI\u2019d like the book, <em>Screens and Teens<\/em>.\u201d Our number is 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329. That is 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our conviction, here at FamilyLife, is that we, as parents, have a significant responsibility\u2014something that God has assigned to us\u2014a stewardship. It\u2019s our job to help our kids get from the foolishness of childhood to the wisdom of their adult years. In the process, to introduce them to the God who loves them \/ the God who sent His Son to die for them. We have a great responsibility to be engaged in the lives of our kids. At FamilyLife, we\u2019re here to try to provide you with practical biblical help and hope in that assignment, day in and day out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s a part of what <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is all about. We appreciate those of you who partner with us in this ministry, helping to make it possible through your donations and your support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, if you\u2019re able to help with a donation today, to help defray the cost of producing and syndicating this program, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a new resource from Barbara Rainey. It\u2019s her very newest \u201cUntie Your Story\u201d resource. This is designed to promote conversation around the dinner table. These are napkin ties that have questions on them, and there\u2019s a brand-new edition that has just come out from Barbara. We\u2019ll send it to you, as a thank-you gift, when you make a donation today by going to FamilyLifeToday.com, clicking the upper right-hand corner of the screen, where it says, \u201cI Care,\u201d and making your online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk about your kids\u2019 devices and particularly at nighttime \/ after bedtime because there are a lot of teens, who are up texting, and tweeting, and on their phones at two in the morning. We\u2019re going to talk about that tomorrow. Hope you can tune in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2015 FamilyLife. 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