{"id":303660,"date":"2015-09-15T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-09-15T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different\/"},"modified":"2015-09-15T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-09-15T15:00:00","slug":"why-are-men-and-women-so-different","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Are Men and Women So Different?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>According to Pastor Dave Wilson and his wife, Ann, a man&#8217;s relationship with God is key to unlocking the mystery of marital intimacy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-09-15.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"28.29M","filesize_raw":"29665402","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2088],"tags":[5818],"podcast_series":[7216],"cwp_profile":[3554,3295],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303660","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-romance-and-sex","tag-differences-in-men-and-women","podcast_series-the-mystery-of-intimacy-in-marriage","cwp_profile-ann-wilson","cwp_profile-dave-wilson","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303660\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303660\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"3TlWxpNs1X\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different\/\">Why Are Men and Women So Different?<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/why-are-men-and-women-so-different\/embed\/#?secret=3TlWxpNs1X\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Why Are Men and Women So Different?&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"3TlWxpNs1X\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Here\u2019s pastor and speaker, Dave Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Ann has said to me, many times, in our 35 years, \u201cYour words are so harsh.\u201d I am like, \u201c<em>What are you talking about?!\u201d <\/em>[Laughter] I\u2019m not kidding; right? I respond just like that\u2014not realizing how I\u2019m responding. She\u2019s just like, \u201cExhibit A.\u201d [Laughter] You know\u2014\u201cThere, you did it again.\u201d And then I\u2019m trying to understand: \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you interested in sex? What\u2019s wrong with you? You don\u2019t want it as much as me.\u201d We\u2019ve had this fight many times, and I\u2019ve never connected the dots: \u201cWell, look how you talk to her. Look how you\u2019ve treated her.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Tuesday, September 15<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Dave and Ann Wilson join us today for a little coaching session on how we can do a better job of expressing love for one another in marriage. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition. I\u2019m going to ask you\u2014and I know there\u2019s no scientific answer to this \/ you don\u2019t have the research in front of you\u2014but just your guess\u2014[Laughter]\u2014what!?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> When you start these programs off, asking me something out of the clear blue\u2014I want you to know, as listeners\u2014this is not a scripted broadcast. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> [Laughing] Okay, so here\u2019s the question: \u201cIf you were to give your guess\u2014on a scale of 1 to 10, where most married couples today would gauge their satisfaction with how they\u2019re doing in the area of intimacy in their marriage \/ their sexual relationship\u2014and 10 is: \u2018I couldn\u2019t be happier,\u2019 and 1 is: \u2018I\u2019m miserable. It\u2019s not anything like what I thought it would be, and it\u2019s a point of great sadness for me,\u2019\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cSo where do you think the average couple, listening to us today\u2014what grade do you think they would give themselves?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, if it\u2019s the couples listening to our broadcast\u2014because I know what they\u2019re receiving, on a regular basis, from <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014and if you\u2019ve been to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway, you may be\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you may be a few points higher than everybody else?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014you may be north of 5\u2014you may be a 7\/8\u2014somewhere up there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would say\u2014if this was just the average person across America, not listening to a biblical viewpoint of love, marriage, and sex \/ in that order, by the way\u2014my guess is a 3 or 4, Bob\u2014I think they\u2019re going to be south of 5. I think they will probably have settled into a rut and may be missing the most important aspect of the marriage relationship because I think marriage is more than just two bodies\u2014it is body, soul, and spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA person who knows Jesus Christ has the potential of experiencing, in marriage, sex as God designed it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You think the number\u2019s different, whether it\u2019s the husband or the wife who\u2019s responding?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, you\u2019re trying to pick a fight now\u2014I\u2019ll tell you. [Laughter] Is Barbara going to listen to this, Bob? [Laughter] Can I plead the Fifth Amendment, Bob? It would be interesting to know\u2014in fact, why don\u2019t we just take a Survey Monkey on this deal and put it on our website? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We should be able to do that. Okay, so\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And if it\u2019s not there, you know Bob wasn\u2019t able to deliver.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tragic failure! Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and look for the link to the survey on \u201cMarital Satisfaction When It Comes to Intimacy.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe message we\u2019re actually going to hear today is Part Two of a message on this subject presented by some friends of ours, Dave and Ann Wilson, who speak at our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and who spoke on this subject last year, onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage cruise. They talked candidly, and openly, and appropriately\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes, they did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with the audience. We got a lot of very positive feedback about their message and thought this would be good to share with our listeners. So, here\u2019s Part Two of Dave and Ann Wilson talking about intimacy in marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previously Recorded Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Many of you have been to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>. How many have been to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>? Yes, they\u2019re awesome! One of the things that is in the sex talk, during the <em>Weekend to Remember,<\/em> is a chart. It\u2019s a chart that compares the difference between men and women in the sexual area\u2014in five areas. We\u2019re going to walk through this very quickly, but I think it really has some real key applications for how to understand one another.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen, in the area of attitude toward sex, tend to be more physical and compartmentalized \/ and women more relational and wholistic. I\u2019m not sure I understand what that means\u2014from a wholistic standpoint\u2014so explain it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, a lot of you have read books and heard about this. So I won\u2019t go into so much detail in that you know that men are more compartmentalized\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they go from one box, to the other box, to the other box. Women are more wholistic\u2014they\u2019re global. How do you always say it about the Christmas tree lights?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, for men, it\u2019s\u2014you know, like she said\u2014I can be watching <em>Monday Night Football<\/em>, and she walks by\u2014and I\u2019m like, \u201cSex!\u201d [Laughter] You know? Just, \u201cBoom!\u201d Am I right? It\u2019s like you just slide right into another compartment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And it doesn\u2019t matter how our relationship is doing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, who cares? But a woman\u2014[Laughter] Am I right, guys!? I mean, really?! But a woman is so wholistic\u2014that I say it\u2019s like this\u2014she\u2019s like stringing Christmas lights. If one bulb\u2019s out, they\u2019re all out. [Laughter] It\u2019s like: \u201cSeriously?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s so hard because we\u2019re so different. For men\u2014if I say to Dave, \u201cHey, let\u2019s have sex tonight,\u201d Dave goes into that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, if she says <em>those words<\/em>! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Is it 4:00 yet? [Laughter] You know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But, as a woman\u2014now, and maybe, some of you are different\u2014but this is totally me: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, let\u2019s say my kids are all home\u2014like: \u201cOkay. The boys have practice tomorrow, and I have to get all of their stuff\u201d\u2014like: \u201cIs their stuff washed? Is that ready?\u201d It\u2019s like a bag that I kind of put on myself \/ I carry it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDave\u2019s traveling this week\u2014I say: \u201cHave we even been out? Have we talked? Have we dated? I think he\u2019s mad at me, and I\u2019m really mad at him.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen: \u201cI really need to do the laundry\u2014I haven\u2019t done the laundry.\u201d \u201cI haven\u2019t read my Bible\u2014I need to read my Bible.\u201d \u201cI feel fat\u2014I need to go workout. Why did I eat so much for dinner?\u201d [Laughter] \u201cI haven\u2019t cleaned the house.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, guys, we women get in bed; and all of this is on our minds\u2014like: \u201cDid I lock the door? What\u2019s for dinner? Is there milk in the refrigerator? Do we have anything to eat in the morning?\u201d All that stuff is on our minds because we carry it with us everywhere we go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe, as women, want to know that you love us more than just sex. [Applause] We want you to like the drama\u2014we want you to know us and to care about the things that we carry. So, guys, if you even said to us, \u201cTell me the heaviest thing that you\u2019re carrying in your life right now,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014for some of your wives\u2014it would make them want to cry that you asked them that \/ that you care about them. That means the world to us. We\u2019re so wholistic! Guys, we need to drop all of our stuff, and it takes us a while to go there. We\u2019re crockpots\u2014we\u2019re <em>slow<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo just \u2014if you can, non-sexually, touch us during the day, and hold our hand, and put your arm around us\u2014that, for us, says \u201clove\u201d\u2014that is sex to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That is really a second category on the chart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> In the area of stimulation, men are more body-centered, visual, fragrance, actions. On the other side, women\u2014as Ann just said\u2014are more person-centered.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Touch there means non-sexual touch. When you\u2019re dating, you\u2019re doing that all of the time\u2014you\u2019re hugging, you\u2019re kissing, you\u2019re holding hands. Then you get married. Do you ever see married couples doing that? If you do, it\u2019s like: \u201cThey\u2019re newlyweds.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhy does that go away? I\u2019ll tell you why\u2014because men don\u2019t care to serve their wives because their wives are longing for that. I know she longs for non-sexual touch. Attitudes and words are the attitude of tenderness and gentleness, not harshness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnn has said to me, many times, in our 35 years, \u201cYour words are so harsh.\u201d I am like, \u201c<em>What are you talking about?!\u201d <\/em>[Laughter] I\u2019m not kidding; right? I respond just like that\u2014not realizing how I\u2019m responding. She\u2019s just like, \u201cExhibit A.\u201d [Laughter] You know\u2014\u201cThere, you did it again.\u201d And then I\u2019m trying to understand: \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you interested in sex? What\u2019s wrong with you? You don\u2019t want it as much as me.\u201d We\u2019ve had this fight many times, and I\u2019ve never connected the dots: \u201cWell, look how you talk to her. Look how you\u2019ve treated her.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But then, it can also be flipped. When Dave and I were in seminary, he was so stressed \/ just so consumed with that. Your desire wasn\u2019t as strong as mine. That\u2019s totally flipped in the relationship, sometimes. I felt like: \u201cWhat\u2019s wrong with me?\u201d like: \u201cWhy don\u2019t you want to have sex with me? Is there something wrong? Do I not look a certain way?\u201d So all of that\u2019s in there too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got to fly on to the next part\u2014\u201cNeeds.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMen\u2014respect is <em>really<\/em> tied to sex \/ physically needed \/ physical affection. Women\u2014more security \/ emotionally needed in intimacy. The respect thing is <em>huge<\/em> for guys. It really is connected in every area of our lives, but especially the bedroom. When a wife pursues her husband, he feels respected. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnn was sort of joking\u2014but you\u2019ve heard that women need to warm up, like a crockpot \/ men, often, are like a microwave\u2014that\u2019s bad!\u2014we used to fight about that because like, \u201cWhy are you so different?!\u201d And we realized, over years, God made us that way on purpose because, when we give ourselves away, selflessly, to the other\u2014\u201dIt\u2019s more important that they are satisfied than that I am,\u201d\u2014that your wife is\/ that your husband is than you are\u2014then you\u2019re making love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, here\u2019s\u2014and I\u2019ll never forget when Dave and I heard Howard and Jeanne Hendricks, who was the Dallas Theological Seminary prof. He talked one time\u2014he and his wife Jeanne were in their 80s. Somebody asked him at this small conference, \u201cHow\u2019s sex in your 80s?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were like: \u201cOh, my gosh! Who is asking that?\u201d And Howard\u2014just like Howard\u2014says, \u201cOh! It\u2019s amazing.\u201d He said, \u201cLet me tell you\u2014until you\u2019ve been married 15 years or more, you don\u2019t even know what sex is.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou don\u2019t even know what you\u2019re doing!\u201d he says.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; \u201c\u2026because it\u2019s all about the physical; but, later on, when you realize that sex is a union of the <em>soul,<\/em> and that is what God has created it to be\u2026\u201d I looked at Dave and I thought: \u201cOh, my gosh! We are still so clueless.\u201d And the older I get, the more I understand that sex is about a unity, a passion, an intimacy of the soul because it changes through the years. There is still a beauty to the oneness of bringing a man and a wife together in the beauty of the union of the soul in one form or another of loving each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And that is really God\u2019s design for sex. [Applause] It is; isn\u2019t it? It isn\u2019t\u2014the reason you\u2019re clapping is you connect with the truth of that. The world will never tell you that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it isn\u2019t physical \/ it is, obviously, it is part of it\u2014it isn\u2019t just emotional \/ it\u2019s part of it\u2014the <em>soul <\/em>encompasses <em>everything<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s why it\u2019s worth talking about. Some of you couples have never talked about it. One of the most beautiful things you could do tonight is to sit on the end of the bed and talk. Seriously! Communicate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cHow could we be better?\u201d\u2014right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. I mean, it is like: \u201cWe need to talk about this area. How are we doing well in this area? Where do we need to grow in this area?\u201d For so many couples, it is so hard to talk about because it is soul-ish in nature.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And, then, the last thing we\u2019ll tell you is this\u2014and, again, I think it\u2019s something nobody is telling you\u2014it\u2019s the third one and the last one\u2014I would say it this way, \u201cIf you want better sex, walk with God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnn told me, years ago\u2014because I remember asking her, as a young husband: \u201cWhat is the sexiest thing I do? What is it that I do that makes you want me?\u201d I\u2019ll never forget her answer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I said: \u201cWhen you pray, and you walk with God, and you lead our family, spiritually. There\u2019s nothing that turns me on more than that.\u201d [Applause]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes\u2014it\u2019s leading her \/ it is lead our family \/ it is prayer. I mean, I know, when I get on my knees \/ I lead her\u2014I know, for her\u2014that is the most romantic thing I can do, as a husband.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of you have seen this video clip I\u2019m going to show you right now [from] <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. It\u2019s a moment in our marriage, at our ten-year anniversary, when we were in real trouble. I didn\u2019t know it. That night, twenty-five years ago, changed our marriage and the future of our marriage. Believe it or not, as we close after that, we\u2019ll show you how it applies also, not just to your marriage, but to your sexual relationship as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Audio of video clip]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Marrying Dave Wilson was the most exciting thing I could even imagine. I just had these pictures in my head of what Dave was going to be like: \u201cHe\u2019s the hottest \/ most godly\u2014he\u2019s going to lead me, spiritually!\u201d It was the most anticipated thing of my life to marry him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I was married ten years; and then we started embarking on the dream of our lives, which was starting this church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We just had this vision of wanting God to do something great in terms of reaching people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I couldn\u2019t believe that God would use us to reach thousands for Christ, and it was an absolute dream come true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The dream started to become a reality, but it was becoming a very difficult reality. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I basically had two or three jobs going, all at the same time\u2014trying to be a dad, trying to be a husband, and trying to live my dream of helping to start this church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was gone more, and more, and more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> At the same time, I was the Detroit Lions chaplain. So, I was leading Bible studies \/ I was on the road with the team.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I would say things like: \u201cHoney, you\u2019ve got to be here. The boys are growing up. I need you \/ the boys need you. I\u2019m <em>longing<\/em> to spend time with you.\u201d He was like, \u201cOh, I know!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I thought I was doing great, as a husband\/as a dad: \u201cI preach this stuff. I know what the Bible says about marriage. I\u2019m not perfect, but I\u2019m living it pretty good. We\u2019ve got a pretty good marriage. I would put my marriage up against anybody\u2019s.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He would walk out the door; and I would be like, \u201cWait! You\u2019re leaving again tonight?!\u201d He would say, \u201cYes, don\u2019t you remember that I had this meeting, and then, I have to go here and I have to speak to these people?\u201d I\u2019d be like: \u201cWhatever! Great! You know what? I\u2019ll put the boys to bed by myself again. That\u2019s great, hon. See you!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I would have said to you: \u201cOn a scale of 1-10, my marriage is probably a 10. If not a 10, it\u2019s a 9.8; and I guarantee you, my wife would agree.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I would have probably said, \u201cWe\u2019re a 1\/ maybe, like a 0.5.\u201d I think he was totally clueless to that\u2014which then\u2014that made me even more angry because I am thinking, \u201cHow do you not know how badly we\u2019re doing?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> On May 24, 1990, it was our ten-year anniversary\u2014I sort of surprised Ann with a ten-year anniversary date. We dressed up and went to a really nice restaurant. I sort of set it up with the waiter, while we were having dinner \/ when I would queue him\u2014sort of give him a look\u2014he was supposed to bring a rose over. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I queued him early in the dinner\u2014he brought over a rose and laid it on the table. We talked about year one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was like a little boy that night\u2014like waiting for the next thing to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Then I looked over later, and he brought another rose. So, anyway, every rose was a year; and we would talk about that year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was so sweet\u2014he even planned what he was going to say when each rose arrived.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It was on the way home\u2014I thought it would be pretty cool to park in the parking lot, where we were about to start our church. Ann hadn\u2019t even seen this. So, I thought it would be pretty cool to park there and, maybe, pray about what God could possibly do. And, to be totally honest with you, I thought we should just park.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I know Dave Wilson\u2014I knew that there was like this ulterior motive\u2014where, \u201cYes, we\u2019re going to park here!\u201d You know, he\u2019s all about the parking part\u2014so I kind of knew that was coming.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So, I leaned over to kiss Ann. As I leaned over to kiss her in the passenger seat, she sort of pulls away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cUgggghh!\u201d I was just like, \u201cHoney, I can\u2019t even!\u201d In my head, I was thinking, \u201cI cannot even go there.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So I pulled back, and look at her, and said, \u201cIs something wrong?\u201d She looks at me\u2014and I\u2019ll never forget this\u2014she goes, \u201cWell, yes, there is something wrong.\u201d I am like, \u201cWhat\u2019s wrong?\u201d And she says, \u201cWell, to be honest with you, I\u2019ve lost my feelings for you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0[End video clip]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> When Ann said that in that car, I really\u2014as I said\u2014I had no idea. I really did think we were fine. Yet, I asked her what that meant. You said what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I basically said, \u201cI have been so angry, and you haven\u2019t heard me.\u201d And even when I thought I was going to bring this up, I thought he would get angry again because he would say, \u201cI am home!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I usually fought loud. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. So, I told him that: \u201cI was angry, and then my anger turned to bitterness, and then my bitterness turned to numbness, and now I don\u2019t even care. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m not even mad at you anymore because I\u2019m not going to divorce you, but I feel like I don\u2019t have anything for you.\u201d You were pretty shocked.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. Here\u2019s all you need to know about that night\u2014the thing that changed our marriage is when Ann was sharing with me what she felt\u2014I had a pretty unique encounter with God. I sensed God was speaking to me, through Ann; and the word I heard from God was only one word: \u201cRepent.\u201d I knew, when I heard that word, what it meant\u2014it <em>wasn\u2019t<\/em> \u201cRepent of being a bad husband,\u201d or \u201c\u2026being gone too much.\u201d It was: \u201cRepent of your relationship with Me,\u201d\u2014God \/ vertical. See, I had been so busy that my walk with God was sort of on the fly\u2014I wasn\u2019t sitting with Him \/ I wasn\u2019t studying His Word. I got into His Word\u2014why? So I would have something to preach. I hadn\u2019t been intimate with God in months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen Ann was sharing that with me, God made it very clear to me\u2014He was like: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIf you want to fix this,\u201d\u2014the horizontal\u2014\u201cthis has to be right,\u201d\u2014the vertical. \u201cThe vertical comes first before this. And this will never get fixed unless this is right!\u201d I said: \u201cBefore we can continue this, and we do need to talk, I need to pray. I need to pray on my knees,\u201d just because I wanted my posture to be submission because I was ready to repent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t invite her to pray with me. To this day, I don\u2019t know how I did this in a Honda Accord; [Laughter] but I got on my knees like this, and put my elbows on the driver\u2019s seat, the steering wheel is in my back. I cried out to God and said: \u201cI am repenting right here\/right now. I am going to become the man that You\u2019ve called me to be. This is all that matters!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I have to tell you\u2014that when Dave did that \/ when I saw him getting on his knees\u2014Proverbs says \u201ca gentle answer turns away wrath.\u201d When I saw him, not getting angry, and getting on his knees, I was so convicted because, in an instant, I realized that I had made Dave my idol. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had stopped spending as much of my time with Jesus, and talking to Him, and praying through it. I starting getting so angry that I started putting all my hope in Dave\u2014thinking, \u201cIf he would just get his act together, I would be happy!\u201d I kept thinking, \u201cIf we would be okay, I would be okay.\u201d It wasn\u2019t that at all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think God was saying: \u201cWhen <em>we <\/em>are okay, I can get you through anything. I will catch you.\u201d And I knew it, too, because our sex was terrible. I was so resentful when he touched me\u2014it didn\u2019t take a crockpot \/ it took for eternity. I could never, ever get used to Dave\u2019s touch. It was a red signal going off, like: \u201cWe need help! We need counseling. Something needs to happen.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for me, I got down on my knees too. Dave and I grabbed hands together, and we both repented and re-surrendered our lives to Jesus and our marriage to Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m telling you\u2014it changed. I\u2019m not saying we\u2019re perfect and the last 25 years haven\u2019t been without difficulty\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but I\u2019m telling you\u2014that surrender moment, which we did on our wedding night, we did again at our ten-year anniversary. It\u2019s something you should do often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And we continually do it; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right; yes. If you want a better sex life\u2014and that\u2019s just one part of your marriage\u2014you\u2019re not going to get it by taking three points from us. The only thing that\u2019s going to change your marriage or your sex life is bringing God into your bedroom \/ bringing God into your marriage. For some of you, tonight\u2019s your night to repent\u2014it\u2019s not about your spouse \/ it\u2019s about you. You can\u2019t change her or him\u2014all you can do is change you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to pray that some of you, if you\u2019re sensing God speaking to you\u2014and you know He is\u2014I just want to remind you\u2014this [horizontal relationship] will never be fixed until this [vertical relationship] is right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So, maybe first, you have the discussion here; and, then tonight, you have the discussion to discuss how you guys are really doing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, again, we\u2019ve been listening to Dave and Ann Wilson onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise. Dave is one of the pastors at Kensington Community Church in the Detroit area. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of our listeners have met Dave and Ann if they\u2019ve been through <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> video series\u2014if they\u2019ve done it as a small group or done it as an event. Their story is featured in <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. It\u2019s honest, and it\u2019s where all of us live. We need a great model of what asking for forgiveness looks like and what granting it looks like as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, in fact, they mentioned that a couple can go through <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> small group study\u2014just the two of them\u2014we\u2019ve had couples who do this. They get the small group series\u2014got a couple of workbooks in there. You can watch the videos together, and then go through the material\u2014ask each other the questions that are in the workbook after you\u2019ve gone through the session. It can strengthen your marriage for the two of you\u2014to have a series of date nights. There are six sessions\u2014so you have six date nights. You watch an <em>Art of Marriage<\/em> video, and get out the workbook, and reflect on the questions that are in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, you\u2019ll get a chance to meet Dave and Ann Wilson when you do that because they\u2019re in Session Two of <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> small group series. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFind out more about <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> when you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER\u201d; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Ask about <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> small group series\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I\u2019m just sitting here thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who have been through <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> material, who have heard Dave and Ann share their story and have said, \u201cWe\u2019ve been there,\u201d\u2014folks who didn\u2019t have hope left for their marriage. They were looking for practical biblical help. A lot of those folks have found that help\u2014not just in <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> resource\u2014but at our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaways \/ through this daily radio program\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014also, the resources we create on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. We are here to provide you, each day, with practical biblical coaching, guidance, help, and hope for your marriage and your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re grateful to those of you who join us in this mission as you help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>with your donations. In fact, you can make a donation in support of this ministry, right now. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper right-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cI Care.\u201d It\u2019s easy to make an online donation, or call 1-800-FLTODAY to make your donation over the phone. Or you can mail your donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>at<em> PO <\/em>Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. The zip code is 72223. When you get in touch with us to make a donation, ask about the 2016 FamilyLife calendar. It\u2019s all about prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, it actually starts with October of 2015. We\u2019d love to send you our new calendar, as a thank-you gift, when you make a donation today. You can start using that right away.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back here again tomorrow. Our friend, Dr. Dan Allender, is going to join us. He has just written a new book called <em>God Loves Sex <\/em>with his writing partner and colleague, Tremper Longman. Dan is going to join us tomorrow as we continue the conversation about intimacy in marriage. I hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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