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David Platt, calls listeners to stand boldly on the word of God, yet remain compassionate towards those who are lost and hurting.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-08-18.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>As a dad, David Platt knows that his children are being bombarded with messages from the culture that go against what Scripture teaches. How does he address that, as a father, with his children? He says he does it by taking his kids back to God\u2019s Word over and over again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>\u201cHere\u2019s the truth of God\u2019s Word. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about marriage. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about men. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about women.\u201d I mean, I\u2019m trying to pepper those kind of teachings in a Deuteronomy 6 kind of way\u2014just talking about them on the streets, as we\u2019re walking up and down \/ as we\u2019re riding in the car\u2014just to look for those teachable opportunities\u2014but to do that to give that kind of truth<em>, with<\/em> a compassion for people who believe different things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, August 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How do you we equip our children to live counter-culturally? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll talk about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You know, there are going to be some listeners who hear that we\u2019re talking about <em>Counter Culture<\/em>\u2014the book that David Platt has written, addressing issues like poverty, and same-sex marriage, and abortion, and orphans, and pornography\u2014and they\u2019re going to go, \u201cOh, you\u2019re talking about politics this week,\u201d because their perception is those are political issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re talking about reality. Reality is where the truth of God\u2019s Word and the gospel collide with human need. David has tackled some of the thornier\u2014probably the thorniest\u2014issues of our day in his book, <em>A Compassionate Call to Counter Culture<\/em>. David\u2014welcome back to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It\u2019s great to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Thrilled you\u2019re here. I just appreciate your writing the book, <em>Radical<\/em>\u2014your leadership on the International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention. You don\u2019t know this; but I came to faith, as a young lad, in a Southern Baptist church at what was then called \u201cBTU\u201d\u2014\u201cBaptist Training Union.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019ve heard about it with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; yes. I owe a lot of my spiritual upbringing, not just merely to my mom and dad, but also to the faithfulness of the Baptist church to share the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I thought that was air-conditioner. Don\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>BTU\u2019s\u2014BTU\u2019s? Actually, heating units are BTU\u2019s. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDavid, I want to begin the broadcast with kind of a different twist. You\u2019re tackling issues, like Bob said\u2014same-sex marriage, racism, sex slavery, persecution, abortion, pornography\u2014that demand courage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, these are going to call people out\u2014\u201cIt\u2019s going to take a chest,\u201d as C.S. Lewis said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a favorite question I like to ask men and women. It\u2019s this: \u201cWhat\u2019s the most courageous thing you, David Platt, have ever done in all your life?\u201d While you\u2019re thinking, I\u2019ll just, for our listening audience, remind them that \u201cCourage is doing your duty in the face of fear.\u201d It doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t have fear or didn\u2019t experience fear. It just means that you faced fear down and you did something. It doesn\u2019t have to be on a battlefield in a foreign country. It can be\u2014well, I\u2019m not going to tip David off because I\u2019m afraid I might somehow tempt him to take an easy route here; but his eyes are still going back and forth \/ darting right now. I can tell he\u2019s thinking. What\u2019s the most courageous thing you\u2019ve ever done?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Things that come to my mind\u2014a couple of them\u2014one most recently. When I\u2019ve made a move\u2014the first one\u2014moving into pasturing a church eight years ago\u2014not having pastored before and stepping into a large church with a lot of unknowns\u2014and my wife and I looking at each other, just saying: \u201cI don\u2019t think we can do this,\u201d and \u201cWhat would it take to do this? It certainly seems like I need more experience,\u201d or \u201c\u2026this or that.\u201d There was a lot of fear that was there. Similarly, stepping into the role that I\u2019m in right now\u2014to lead this large mission organization, with a lot of challenges that go along with that\u2014we were confronted with a variety of fears about how to do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember, when we were talking with our kids about making this move\u2014and we sat them down and said, \u201cWell, Daddy is praying about the possibility of becoming President of the International Mission Board.\u201d My seven-year-old son looked at me and he said: \u201cPresident, Daddy? That sounds like a big job. Are you sure you can handle that?\u201d [Laughter] I said, \u201cBuddy, that\u2019s a <em>great<\/em> question.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, stepping into these roles. It really wasn\u2019t just my wife and I stepping out of what we knew to go into the unknown in a situation where, if God doesn\u2019t come through, I know I\u2019m going to fall flat on my face \/ that I\u2019m way in over my head\u2014but I think God has designed it that way. Joshua 1 has been a thematic chapter for me over the last six months: \u201cBe strong and courageous! ...the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.\u201d \u201cDon\u2019t let His word depart from your mouth\u2026meditate on it day and night\u2026and the Lord your God will give you the courage you need.\u201d That\u2019s what comes to my mind\u2014not just for me\u2014but for my wife and me stepping into the unknown and doing something that we know we can\u2019t do, apart from supernatural intervention.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There are listeners, who would take a look at your book and these topics, and they would say: \u201cYou know, the subject of same-sex marriage is just so thorny \/ it\u2019s just so repulsive in our culture. I\u2019m going to be more silent about this and not engage.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are people who, for lack of courage\u2014back to Dennis\u2019s question\u2014I was thinking about writing this book being a courageous step for you because you are saying, \u201cHere\u2019s what the Lord says\u2026\u201d Some people are going to\u2014they\u2019re done with you because of the positions you\u2019re taking here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Here\u2019s why\u2014this is really interesting\u2014I\u2019m just processing through this. Here\u2019s why I didn\u2019t think of writing this book as courageous\u2014because there\u2019s so much known\u2014God has spoken so clearly on these things. I <em>know<\/em> God\u2019s Word is clear about marriage \/ I know God\u2019s Word is just as clear about loving and caring for people who maybe even disagree with me about marriage and the culture. So, to write a book to try to express that doesn\u2019t feel courageous. That\u2019s where I want to encourage people\u2014and followers of Christ, specifically\u2014through this counter-culture book\u2014is to say, \u201cWe can stand boldly and compassionately on the Word of God and know that there will be costs to us in the culture around us.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure, I don\u2019t think this is going to increase my popularity in certain circles; but we can stand boldly and compassionately on that truth and <em>know<\/em> that we\u2019re on the most firm ground there is in the world, even when it could be costly in different ways in the culture around us. Standing on the known really\u2014that\u2019s where I want to encourage folks to <em>see<\/em> the Word of God and the call of God in our culture and to boldly\/compassionately stand on the Word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve now said that three times\u2014you\u2019ve said \u201cboldly and compassionately.\u201d What does that look like for a mom and a dad raising a family today?\u2014to stand boldly and compassionately <em>for<\/em> marriage in today\u2019s culture?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I mean, to start\u2014first and foremost\u2014for mom and dad to say, \u201cHow can we go against the grain of the culture around us and make sure we love one another in a way that reflects the gospel \/ in a way that reflects God\u2019s design?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for a husband to <em>resist<\/em> that temptation to give in to these secular pictures of masculinity\u2014that miss the point of the gospel\u2014and to say: \u201cNo, my responsibility is to love my wife\u2014to lay my life down for her \/ to serve her in a way that reflects Christ\u2019s sacrificial service on the cross. This is my example for how I am to love my wife,\u201d and to do that. And then for a wife to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to follow my husband\u2019s loving leadership in a way that shows that it\u2019s good for the church to follow Christ.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, that goes against the grain of what we hear when it comes to womanhood today\u2014so to go against the grain of that\u2014to do that boldly and to show, then, children what that looks like \/ for kids to see that kind of picture as opposed to what they see in entertainment and everything else around them\u2014to see this gospel light shining from the way their mom and dad are loving each other. That sounds, to so many people today, old-fashioned, or antiquated, or outdated; but it\u2019s\u2014well, it is old-fashioned, because God designed it this way, from the very beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, there\u2019s no more sure \/ better way to raise kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m so glad you started\u2014I watched Bob\u2014he was nodding too. I\u2019m so glad you started with a mom and dad in their marriage first. You didn\u2019t begin with the solution to train your kids in how to react and respond in the culture or how, as a family, you\u2019re going to handle this. You started with the marriage, and husbands need to know how to be men\u2014how to lead, how to sacrificially lay down their lives, and nourish and cherish their wives\u2014and how the wives can fulfill their God-ordained assignment, which has nobility and dignity; but the culture is robbing them of this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, really\u2014you peel back, even before husbands and wives\u2014we have to acknowledge gender is created by God\u2014as far as I was able to tell\u2014only two. That\u2019s where it all begins\u2014is embracing the fact that God created us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody shared this the other day\u2014I\u2019d never realized this\u2014but they said: \u201cIn the Book of Genesis, as God creates\u2014there\u2019s light and darkness, there is water and dry land, there are birds and there are fish.\u201d There\u2019s always this kind of two different things, and what\u2019s always unique is that they\u2019re different. Then, we get to: \u201cHe created them male and female,\u201d and those who would want to say, \u201cNow, what we should focus on is sameness there,\u201d\u2014lose the whole narrative of Genesis 1, where it\u2019s all been about the difference in these created things\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes. That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014in the Scriptures. So\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m sorry\u2014you got to hear my soapbox.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re all battling for the soapbox here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to go back, though to \u201cbold\u201d and \u201ccompassionate.\u201d Your children, David, are going to be raised in a different culture than Bob and I have raised our children. They are going to have a <em>face<\/em> for homosexuality \/ a <em>face<\/em> for trans-gender\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they\u2019re going to have buddies and friends at school, who they know. They\u2019re going to be tempted to think with their hearts and not from the Word of God in their heads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeak to a family, who\u2019s hammering this out, right now\u2014they have some teenagers or children about to be teenagers\u2014and they\u2019re wondering, \u201cHow do I equip my children to know how to <em>think<\/em> and how to <em>love<\/em> in this culture?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>This so huge\u2014we know this\u2014but it has to be intentional \/ proactive. This is not going to happen accidentally in children\u2019s lives. For Heather and I, we want to be intentional about reinforcing all that God\u2019s Word says\u2014through our family worship time \/\u00a0 through our teachable moments that we have with each of our kids, individually, to say: \u201cHere\u2019s the truth of God\u2019s Word. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about marriage. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about men. Here\u2019s what God\u2019s Word says about women.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I\u2019m trying to pepper those kinds of teachings in a Deuteronomy 6 kind of way\u2014just talking about them on the streets, as we\u2019re walking up and down \/ as we\u2019re riding in the car\u2014just to look for those teachable opportunities\u2014but to give that kind of truth <em>with<\/em> a compassion for people, who believe different things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re going to have friends, who come from this kind of family\u2014where homosexuality is not just accepted but celebrated\u2014so: \u201cOkay, I want to show them, even in my relationship to those parents, \u2018How can I stand on the truth of Christ and not in any way compromise that but <em>show<\/em> the compassion of Christ, in relationship with them, in a way that they can do the same thing with people around us who believe differently from us?\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think about even members of my extended family, who have embraced homosexuality in their lives\u2014my kids are seeing this. I want them to see that Mom and Dad haven\u2019t wavered at all on what the Bible says about this \/ what God, in His Word, has said\u2014but they clear\u2014Mom and Dad clearly love that family member in a way that reflects the character of Christ as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>David, each of the issues you address in this book has overlap with public policy\u2014bills before Congress on all of these issues. We have seen how easily the Christian community has become a voting bloc\u2014has been co-opted into politics because we are passionate about these issues. Folks come along and say, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll sponsor a bill if you\u2019ll sponsor me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do we engage, prophetically, on this without becoming political pawns? How do\u2014and I\u2019m not saying we don\u2019t get engaged in politics because I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the answer; but we have to be careful here; don\u2019t we?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I do think we have to be careful. I think the primary place we need to look is personally: \u201cWhere has God put us \/ the sphere of influence He\u2019s given us?\u201d Okay, in this country, He\u2019s given us opportunities to vote. So, how can we vote according to God\u2019s Word \/ according to the gospel? I think it\u2019s wise for us to think through an issue\u2014like abortion\u2014or other issues and just realize moral or political neutrality, on issues where God\u2019s Word is so clear, is really not an option for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is going to affect the way I use that responsibility. I am so thankful that our hope is not in this or that politician, or this or that bill, or this or that government even\u2014that our ultimate hope is in God\u2014we know where all of this is headed in the end. We\u2019re citizens here, but we\u2019re temporary citizens here. We have a responsibility, as citizens here; but we realize our ultimate citizenship is in another country, and we\u2019re longing for that country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, as we\u2019re talking about what\u2019s happening here\u2014because we\u2019re so connected by our phones and media\u2014we know what\u2019s happening around the world. It\u2019s clear that the church is being persecuted. There are those, who are followers of Jesus Christ today, who are being exterminated for their faith. What would you coach a mom and a dad\u2014or for that matter, men and women who watch this\u2014what are they supposed to think or do, as a result of seeing these images and hearing these stories on TV or their computer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I\u2019m so glad you asked because this is one of the issues I\u2019m most passionate about because 1 Corinthians 12 talks about, when one part of the body suffers, the whole body suffers. We do have brothers and sisters in Christ around the world, who are suffering and dying for the gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne way we have to come alongside them and suffer with them is just by praying for them. I would encourage a mom or a dad\u2014something that we do with our kids is to, in an age-appropriate way, share stories of suffering and persecution in the world so they know that it\u2019s not easy to be a follower of Christ in this world. We have brothers and sisters in Christ we want to be praying for\u2014so we\u2019re praying for them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are ways in different ministries to actually be a part of giving to them and writing to them. I mean, there are kids whose parents have been put in prison for the gospel. For our children\u2014to have opportunities to write other children and encourage them\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I mean, there are some really practical things like that. Also, to realize\u2014this is something we try to do with our kids: \u201cHey guys! It\u2019s really costly for some people around the world to share the gospel. Thankfully, we\u2019re able to share the gospel where we live.\u201d As we talk about the persecuted church, I think one of the ways we can best serve and support the persecuted church is by taking an advantage of the freedom that we do have to share the gospel. If we are <em>not <\/em>sharing the gospel here\u2014and they\u2019re dying to share the gospel over there\u2014then there\u2019s a <em>major<\/em> disconnect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I want to encourage my kids to <em>maximize<\/em> the opportunities we have to share, right here, as they hear news about this happening to Christians in this part of West Africa or in the Middle East.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This is about Jesus commanding us to go. The nature of the family in America tends to be\u2014I think, even within the Christian community\u2014a little self-absorbed \/ maybe <em>not<\/em> just a <em>little<\/em> either, by the way. We need to be thinking about other people in other countries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe didn\u2019t do this great, as we were raising our kids; but we actually spent the better part of two years reading through a devotional, before school, that was a quick\u2014I don\u2019t know, maybe a three- to five-minute story of people, who were missionaries in other eras to other countries\u2014helping our kids get pictures and images of what it looked like to be heroic for the gospel. In sharing those stories, we heard about persecution \/ we read about people giving their lives. That\u2019s not happening in America; but it is happening, right now, overseas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. We do a very similar thing, just by exposing them to biographies and that sort of thing. Part of the reason we do that is because we want to show them good models of what it means to suffer for Christ. I know this is a point where some people may start to tune me out\u2014but if you just hang with me for a second\u2014we want to raise our kids up so that they\u2019re willing to go to West Africa or the Middle East, with the gospel, at great cost.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a pastor, what I was intentional about doing was trying to encourage our families to raise their kids to spend their lives for spread of the gospel around the world. That may seem extreme to people\u2014that may seem like, \u201cWell, now, you\u2019re really talking radical Christianity.\u201d This is not radical Christianity\u2014this is basic Christianity. Jesus said: \u201cYou\u2019re following Me. You\u2019re going to be like a sheep among wolves. You\u2019re going to go and find yourself in difficult, dangerous places, by My design; but you\u2019re going to be there for the spread of the gospel and for My glory,\u201d and it\u2019s worth it. I want my kids to <em>believe<\/em> that there\u2019s no better way to spend their lives than making the gospel known\u2014right where they live or around the world\u2014even in hard places. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll talk\u2014we\u2019ll just kind of dream, every once in a while: \u201cHey, what if God leads you to this country?\u201d \u201cWhat if God leads you to that country?\u2014where there\u2019s suffering right now?\u201d and to realize: \u201cJust because we\u2019re born in the United States doesn\u2019t mean we have to pass on suffering for the spread of the gospel. One of the ways we serve our persecuted brothers and sisters is actually by going alongside them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to highlight two things you said\u2014number one: You\u2019re training your kids to think about <em>how<\/em> they\u2019re going to suffer. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a matter of <em>if<\/em>\u2014I think it\u2019s a matter of <em>how<\/em> because I think the coming generation will suffer for being followers of Christ at a whole different level than we currently suffer in this country. But the second thing is\u2014and this, I want the moms and dads and grandparents to really listen up\u2014 and even singles, at this point\u2014the family is a Great Commission training center.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It needs to be training the next generation of warriors\u2014whether they are businessmen and women or whether they go to a foreign country\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter. They need to be on task\/on assignment\u2014doing what God has called them and designed them to do, as individuals.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You feel kind of passionately about that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well you know, I think that\u2019s part of how we\u2019ve lost, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we\u2019ve lost the dignity that God <em>embedded<\/em> in the family\u2014that it wasn\u2019t just set here to be a happy family\u2014it was to be on assignment\/on task; you know? If necessary, suffer as you\u2019re obedient to Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think we need to keep in mind that taking the gospel to others is not simply taking the message about forgiveness of sin; but it is taking a gospel-saturated worldview, which is what you\u2019ve outlined, David. In your book, <em>Counter Culture<\/em>, you give us a way to think with a gospel worldview on the issues that we\u2019re facing in our culture today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Our listeners can order a book by going to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d Look for David Platt\u2019s book, <em>Counter Culture<\/em>; or call us, toll-free, at 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, you think about these issues we\u2019ve talked about\u2014this is a time for us, as Christians, to be more purposeful and more intentional when it comes to praying. We need to continue to seek God for wisdom, and for favor, and for blessing as we address the issues that we face in our culture. We have said, for years, that husbands and wives ought to cultivate a habit of praying together, regularly, as a couple, because that marital discipline will provide you with a common foundation for your marriage and for your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring the month of September, we are hoping that we will see tens of thousands of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners joining us in a 30-Day Oneness Prayer Challenge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to make it as simple as possible\u2014when you sign up, we will send you a prayer prompt each day. It\u2019ll give you a topic to pray about\u2014give you some coaching and then some prayer ideas for husbands and for wives so that the two of you can take a few minutes each day and pray together, as husband and wife. You may have tried before to develop the habit of praying together, as a couple, and it just hasn\u2019t worked out for you. How about if you sign up for this 30-day prayer challenge and see if the prompts don\u2019t help you begin praying together every day, as a couple. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, you can sign up by going to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d and look for the 30-day Oneness Prayer Challenge from <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Sign up, and we\u2019ll send you those prayer prompts every day during the month of September. Join with us\u2014pray with us that we will see thousands of couples \/ tens of thousands of couples take the challenge and join us for the 30-day oneness prayer experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhile you\u2019re on our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com, would you consider making a yearend contribution to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>? I know that the calendar is not about to turn to a new year; but at FamilyLife, we\u2019re facing the end of our fiscal year. We\u2019re hoping to wrap up in the next couple of weeks with a little flurry \/ a little surge of support from our listeners so that we can end the year in a healthy place, financially. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help us with a donation, here at the end of our fiscal year, we\u2019d like to send you a tool to help you pray together. 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