{"id":303618,"date":"2015-08-17T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-08-17T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-gospel-and-social-issues\/"},"modified":"2015-08-17T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-08-17T15:00:00","slug":"the-gospel-and-social-issues","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-gospel-and-social-issues\/","title":{"rendered":"The Gospel and Social Issues"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pastor David Platt wonders why believers are rising up against popular social injustices like poverty and slavery, but remain silent on other issues like abortion.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-08-17.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"24.29M","filesize_raw":"25465899","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2848,2821],"tags":[5809,5793,5808,5810,2989],"podcast_series":[8098],"cwp_profile":[3275],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303618","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cultural-issues","category-reaching-out","tag-child-trafficking","tag-cultural-issues","tag-get-involved","tag-human-trafficking","tag-pornography","podcast_series-counter-culture","cwp_profile-david-platt","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303618\/the-gospel-and-social-issues","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303618\/the-gospel-and-social-issues","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"WrE6UxGZOu\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-gospel-and-social-issues\/\">The Gospel and Social Issues<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-gospel-and-social-issues\/embed\/#?secret=WrE6UxGZOu\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;The Gospel and Social Issues&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"WrE6UxGZOu\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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What is a follower of Jesus to do?\u00a0 Here\u2019s David Platt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>In a culture where these issues are so prevalent, we <em>all <\/em>need to be equipped to share with others how the gospel affects the way we think about each of these issues. Then, when it comes to how we act, no one person is going to address poverty, while starting a pregnancy care clinic, while adopting five orphans into their home, and on and on and on. This is where I encourage folks just to read through all these issues\u2014think about the gospel and then ask the Lord, \u201cWhat specifically are you leading me to do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Monday, August 17<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to hear a compassionate call to living counter-culturally today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Thanks for joining us. I have to tell you\u2014I was a little surprised when I heard that the next book David Platt was going to write was going to be a book addressing contemporary issues. Just because of all of the things I\u2019ve read from him, I just didn\u2019t expect this was the next place he was going to go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. After writing a book called <em>Radical<\/em>, you kind of wonder, \u201cNow, why did he do that?\u201d So, I\u2019m going to ask him. First of all\u2014David, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> It\u2019s great to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>David and his wife Heather have just moved to Richmond, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe heads up the International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention. Used to be a pastor for a number of years and has taken on an international assignment. Let\u2019s go to Bob\u2019s topic, here: \u201cWhy in the world did you tackle a book on contemporary social issues?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Really, when you think about it, what drove me to write this book is really the application of what I had written in <em>Radical<\/em>. Too, what I see is the most pressing social issues around us in our culture\u2014so just a deep, personal, pastoral burden [drove] me to write this book. When I look at the rapidly-shifting moral landscape that we live in and the number of social issues\u2014ranging from poverty, to same-sex marriage, to sex trafficking, to religious liberty, racism\u2014how does the gospel compel us to live radically \/ counter-culturally in light of these issues?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. What I want our listeners to know here, at the beginning, is\u2014I want them to think and listen attentively to what the Holy Spirit has to say to <em>them <\/em>about: \u201cWhat\u2019s the application out of what David\u2019s talking about for you\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014as a single man, married man, married woman, or a parent raising children today?\u00a0 This is really the assignment of the family isn\u2019t it; David?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. I\u2019m so glad you mentioned that, just at the start, because that was my prayer in writing this <em>Counter Culture<\/em> book\u2014was to say: \u201cHere are these issues. Let\u2019s look at our lives. Let\u2019s look at our sphere of influence. Let\u2019s look at where God\u2019s put our lives, marriages, families. How can we be a part of applying the gospel practically, right where we live, in light of these pressing social issues?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Parent\u2019s hearts are going to end up being displayed to their children and what they\u2019re passionate about is going to be caught by their children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>David we\u2019ve got, as you know, a generation of younger evangelicals, who kind of feel like we need to shy away from the issues you\u2019re addressing here\u2014that we will, in fact, hurt the gospel if we tackle culture war issues. They\u2019re saying the culture wars need to be done away with, and we need to be focusing on just sharing about Jesus with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> I get that because I was there. One, I want to be focused on sharing about Jesus with people, primarily, over and above everything else\u2014but take an issue like abortion\u2014for years, I was shamefully passive on that issue \/ just totally silent\u2014not just as a Christian\u2014but as a pastor, would hardly address it because I had it over here, in this political sphere that I wasn\u2019t going to touch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I\u2019m reading Psalm 139 one day. It was just like: \u201cHow can I <em>not<\/em> address this issue?\u00a0 This is <em>not <\/em>a political issue. Before that, it\u2019s a <em>God issue<\/em> \/ it\u2019s a gospel issue\u2014God\u2019s love for the children He\u2019s creating in the womb.\u201d Then realizing: \u201cOkay, I\u2019ve got to\u2014I\u2019m compelled to act on this issue. Before it\u2019s ever a political issue, it\u2019s a gospel issue.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s really the application of our forgiveness as we pierce the darkness of a culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI almost recoiled, Bob, when you said the word, \u201cculture wars\u201d because I don\u2019t view, frankly, the topics you\u2019re talking about here as a culture war issue. To me, it\u2019s a matter of, as you say, justice. It\u2019s a matter of bringing the truth of God\u2019s Word to a world that doesn\u2019t know what\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right. You look at an issue like orphans and widows. When you believe the gospel \/ when you\u2019ve been adopted by God, Himself, then you are compelled to act when it comes to orphans around you. Not that everybody is going to adopt\u2014although, many people the Lord will lead to do that\u2014but to say, in a \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJames 1:27-kind-of-way: \u201cHow can we look after the orphan and the widow?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know that, when we go in the marketplace and say, \u201cWe care about orphans and widows\u201d, everybody goes, \u201cGood for you!\u201d They cheer you on. When you go in the marketplace and say, \u201cWe care about unborn babies,\u201d and \u201cWe care about God\u2019s design for marriage,\u201d they say, \u201cSit down and be quiet.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly what\u2019s driving me to write this book\u2014is to show that the gospel doesn\u2019t give us the option of picking and choosing which social issues we\u2019re going to address \/ which ones we\u2019re going to ignore, based on what\u2019s most comfortable or least costly to us in the culture around us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve said for years, David\u2014that I think the abortion laws will be overturned when the church becomes so pro-orphan that\u2014like Mother Teresa, who said, \u201cGive me your babies.\u201d When the church says: \u201cGive me these children that are fatherless \/ that don\u2019t have families to grow up in. Give us these children.\u201d At that point, the culture may end up saying, \u201cYou know, maybe there\u2019s something to their argument being against abortion and being pro-life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Let me give a great picture of that. Even in the church that I pastored, we were reading\/studying James 1:27: \u201cReligion that God our Father looks at as pure and faultless is to look after orphans and widows in their distress.\u201d We called up the Department of Human Resources in our county and said: \u201cHow many kids, in foster care, do you have that need help right now? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHow many families would it take to be able to care for all the kids in our county?\u201d They kind of laughed at me. I said, \u201cNo, really\u2014how many families?\u201d They said, \u201cWe could probably use 150 more families.\u201d The need was so great. Two weeks later, we had an informational meeting. Families came pouring in, and 150 of our families signed up to care for every child in foster care in our county. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat that did is\u2014it not only provided an avenue to care for these kids in a way that displayed the gospel\u2014but then it provides all the more fuel for us to then go to women, who are struggling to discern whether or not to keep a baby and say, \u201cThere\u2019s actually a whole mechanism that\u2019s set up for your children to be cared for\u2014either through adoption, or in this way or that way\u2014come alongside you.\u201d When we show that kind of effect of the gospel in our lives \/ in the church, then it has ripple effects far beyond. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want our listeners to hear is that was David Platt, the pastor, reaching out to a governmental agency offering help. I want you to know, as a layman, you can do this too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a movement, across our country, of families who are stepping up and saying: \u201cGive us your children. Work with us and train the families I bring to you.\u201d It\u2019s happening in county after county, across the country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. That\u2019s what is so exciting to see, as God wakes people up to the reality of needs around\u2014how the gospel compels us to address those needs around us\u2014and the creativity of God in how He leads different families to do different things\u2014to care for children, in His name, in these ways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can just tell you story after story, when you walk through the preschool area of our church. You just see children from different countries, that have been adopted; but you also see different children from all over the city, who are walking through challenging times. Each one of them represents a story of a family who\u2019s coming alongside and loving that child\u2014not just that child \/ but in a foster-care situation, loving the parents of that child, and working toward reunification and the health of that family\u00a0 It\u2019s just a <em>beautiful<\/em> thing to see the gospel taking root in families in that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>David, I think one of the things the enemy does is\u2014he goes to families and he whispers in their ears: \u201cYou can\u2019t make a difference. You\u2019re just one dad,\u201d \u201c\u2026just one mom,\u201d \u201c\u2026just one family. God can\u2019t use you\u2014you\u2019re not seminary-trained.\u201d That really is one of the greatest lies that has the church paralyzed today in our culture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It really is. One of the things I address in the <em>Counter Culture<\/em> book is that tendency we have to say, \u201cWell, I can\u2019t fix everything, so I won\u2019t do anything.\u201d It is\u2014it\u2019s a lie straight from the adversary because God has uniquely designed His body to reach out to individual children in ways that have far-reaching effects. You think about just one of these children\u2014who\u2019s being cared for \/ loved in foster care and adoption, through a family that\u2019s showing them the love of the Father to the fatherless\u2014the effect in that one child\u2019s life and how that will have ripple effects <em>far beyond<\/em> that one child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What did you do, as a pastor in Birmingham, to motivate or to unleash people to get engaged in ministry?\u00a0 How did you cast that vision?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I would say it\u2019s two-fold. One, I kept giving them the gospel\u2014kept reminding them. That sounds overly simplistic but even to connect that to what we were just talking about when it comes to foster care. Many of the children in foster care have some rough backgrounds. When it comes to foster care and adoption, this isn\u2019t\u2014it\u2019s not an easy task \/ it\u2019s really difficult for families. So, why would a family bring a child into their home? Maybe because they have fetal alcohol syndrome\u2014he\u2019s going to be very rebellious \/ it is going to be very hard in the home. So, why would a family take that risk and do that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s why\u2014because they know that there was a day, when they were running away from God and rebellion against Him\u2014God, in His mercy, reached out His hand of grace into their heart and brought them from death to life and adopted them as His children. As a result, it now\u2014it just makes sense to do the same thing in other children\u2019s lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI keep giving them the gospel and then helping them think through\u2014just to kind of seed practical ideas:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHere\u2019s how you could potentiality apply the gospel then, in a foster child\u2019s life.\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s how you can apply the gospel in this pregnancy care center.\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s how you can apply the gospel in the midst of sex trafficking around us in the city,\u201d or whatever it may be. To think intentionally through: \u201cThis gospel that I believe is not just a Sunday-by-Sunday thing. This affects every facet of my being and my life,\u201d and to think through the practical ways that can play out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re not challenging people to do something that you and Heather haven\u2019t done.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Adoption, by God\u2019s grace, is a part of our story\u2014that God has blessed us with four kids. Two of them are adopted, and I\u2019m so thankful. Even as we were just talking, just a second ago, about the effect\u2014I mean, \u201cCan you really have that great an effect?\u201d I think about our son from Kazakhstan \/ our daughter from China\u2014and just the effect they\u2019ve had on my life; much less, my wife and I are having on their life. Don\u2019t underestimate, for a second, what God will do when your family gets serious about applying the gospel to these issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want our listeners also to know\u2014just as in God\u2019s family, it\u2019s not perfect after they get redeemed and after He adopts us\u2014when you reach out and you get involved in these social issues, it\u2019s going to be messy. It\u2019s not going to be perfect. It\u2019s <em>not <\/em>going to be some warm feeling, where everything falls in place, and it\u2019s going to be really easy to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo, we\u2019re talking about doing the hard work of persevering \/ of faith, working through difficulties. This is gritty stuff you\u2019re challenging people to do\u2014it\u2019s discipleship stuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. It\u2019s very gritty and it is discipleship. We tell our folks, all the time in the church: \u201cDon\u2019t adopt or start caring for foster children because you want a cuter Christmas card to send out to your friends. This is not what gospel ministry is about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s about addressing some really challenging circumstances sometimes\u2014and at great risk\u2014but it\u2019s worth it.\u201d That\u2019s the beauty and this is the way the gospel always works. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is the invitation to Christ: \u201cDeny yourself, take up your cross and follow Me.\u201d So, die to yourself because there\u2019s better life for you. It\u2019s worth it to walk through the grit because of\u00a0 what it will do\u2014not just in somebody else\u2019s life, as they see the love of Christ expressed through you toward them\u2014but what it will do in your own life \/ in your own relationship with Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> David, there are nine subjects listed on the front of your book: Poverty, Same-Sex Marriage, Racism, Sex Slavery, Immigration, Persecution, Abortion, Orphans, [and] Pornography. I read that list and I think to myself: \u201cIf I\u2019m going to try to live out a gospel-centered response to those, I\u2019m overwhelmed just by looking at the list\u2014to try to speak to one of those feels consuming.\u201d How do we, as Christians, calibrate our lives so that we know: \u201cAm I supposed to be speaking to all of these? What do I do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> In this <em>Counter Culture <\/em>book, I take each chapter and address a different issue. At the end of each chapter, I try to give some practical take-aways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne: \u201cHow does knowing about these issues affect the way we pray?\u201d because that\u2019s something all of us can do\u2014just from our knees\u2014and not to underestimate the value of what it means to go before the Lord and intercede on behalf of those who are being trafficked around the world for sex and intercede on behalf of those who are poor. \u201cHow does it affect the way we pray?\u201d \u201cHow does it affect the way we speak?\u201d I think, in a culture where these issues are so prevalent, we all need to be equipped to share with others how the gospel affects the way we think about each of these issues. That, I think, is consistent with all of them: \u201cHow we pray,\u201d \/ \u201cHow we speak on these issues.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, when it comes to how we act, this is where I encourage folks just to read through all these issues\u2014think about the gospel \/ let it inform your praying and your speaking\u2014and then ask the Lord, \u201cWhat specifically are You leading me to do?\u201d God may lead this person to address this issue in that way \/ this person to address that issue in that way. As we\u2019re doing that, the creativity of God\u2014He will lead us to do all kinds of different things in ways that resound to His glory in each one of our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the first issues you tackle\u2014in fact, I guess it is the first issue\u2014it\u2019s poverty. Jesus spoke a lot about the poor. I wonder: \u201cToday, in our country\u2014if we\u2019re so rich today in our evangelical church\u2014that we\u2019ve really forgotten or have perhaps passively ignored the poor among us and haven\u2019t really addressed their needs.\u201d Speak to that if you would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s right on\u2014that\u2019s exactly what we\u2019ve done. First Timothy 6 talks about how we\u2019re prone to do that\u2014it\u2019s because we think of wealth in relative terms. We always think of people who are wealthier than us, but the reality is when 90-plus percent\u2014not just the world, but world history\u2014looks at the wealthy, they think of us. We don\u2019t need to feel bad about that. My aim, in that chapter, specifically, is that\u2014by no means to present a guilt trip\u2014but to say: \u201cWhy has God given us this wealth? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cMaybe He\u2019s given it to us for the spread of His worship \/ for the spread of His goodness\u2014to display Him as Father to the fatherless by using wealth to care for those who are in need\u2014to look at those who are poor and say, \u2018How can we best be an expression of God\u2019s character to them?\u2019 which we see all <em>throughout <\/em>Scripture\u2014to really seriously think about this in a world where we are surrounded by <em>massive <\/em>physical need.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me ask you some real practical questions in the area of affluence and poverty. When a mom and dad are sitting and thinking, \u201cMaybe it would be fun for us to go to Disneyland on vacation\u201d; and then somebody says, \u201cHow can you go to Disneyland on vacation when there are people dying around the world?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA mom and a dad are trying to figure out what car to get because Mom\u2019s car just broke. They go: \u201cWell, let\u2019s see. This one costs more money but might not break down as much, but how can we spend this much money on a car when there are people dying from starvation?\u201d How do <em>you <\/em>deal with those kinds of dilemmas in a culture of affluence, when you know that you\u2019re going to Disneyworld and kids don\u2019t have a well?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. It\u2019s something I\u2019ve really enjoyed walking our church through, and then, even my own family through\u2014to think through because there are not specific guidelines that we have in Scripture\u2014\u201cI live at this income,\u201d\u2014but I do think we see clear exhortations to live simply and to give sacrificially. To live simply\u2014that doesn\u2019t mean that a Disneyworld vacation is wrong, by any means. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I think there are places\u2014we see in Scripture\u2014you look at a robust theology of possessions\u2014what you\u2019ll see is there\u2019s room for extravagant celebration, even, on periodic basis, but <em>not<\/em> to <em>live in that<\/em>. What we encourage our folks to do \/ what my wife and I have done is just to set a cap on our standard of living. If God entrusts more wealth to us, then don\u2019t raise the standard of living\u2014raise the standard of giving. Just have that much more to give away. That\u2019s where the \u201cgive sacrificially\u201d comes in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we\u2019re exhorted all throughout Scripture that we should be giving in a way that hurts \/ in a way that does lead to sacrifice in some ways. That\u2019s going to look different in different people\u2019s lives. What it does in our hearts\u2014when we start to see, \u201cOkay, I\u2019m not going to have this so that others can have that,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a good discipline for us to build into our families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to ask how you\u2019ve done it, as a daddy. You\u2019ve got four children\u2014Caleb, Joshua, Mara Ruth, and Isaiah. Their ages are?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>They\u2019re nine, seven, four and two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How are you <em>practically<\/em> try to imbed compassion toward the poor and engage your children in this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> When the Lord really began to convict me on these things, we decided we needed to make a change in the house we live in as a family. Now, we only had two kids, at this point; but those two kids walked through that process with us. Obviously, they were young\u2014but seeing us down-size our home\u2014which is a whole nother journey to walk through that even in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife and I\u2014it\u2019s not that she loves all these worldly possessions and I don\u2019t\u2014but just us coming to the same page on \u201cOkay, how are we going to live simply?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a sanctifying process\u2014for a husband and wife to think and pray through that together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember, when we were trying to decide what house to move into\u2014I would bring some houses to the table, \u201cHey let\u2019s look at these\u201d; and she would bring some houses to the table. We just <em>weren\u2019t<\/em> on the same page. I said: \u201cOkay, let\u2019s do it this way\u2014let\u2019s write down a list of the top five things that you value in a house and I value in a house. We\u2019ll just start there.\u201d So we sat down\u2014this will show you how patient my wife is because we sat down and the first thing on her list was just some place for the kids to be able to run around outside\u2014whether it\u2019s a yard or park somewhere\u2014just someplace for the kids to be able to run outside. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe says, \u201cWhat\u2019s the first thing on your list?\u201d My first thing was: \u201cWater.\u201d She said, \u201cWater?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, yes, because a lot of people around the world\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started giving this lecture on \u201cPeople don\u2019t have water in the world.\u201d As I was speaking, I realized: \u201cOh no! I\u2019m so sorry, babe.\u201d It just shows you the patience of my wife, but the process that\u2019s involved. We walked through that process. The Lord brought us on the same page, where we have a house that\u2014again, would be luxurious compared to many places in the world\u2014but we believe is a simple expression of how we can best use our money here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve seen that; and then we\u2019ve tried to help them think through\u2014even as we build in personal routines for them\u2014just basic allowance for chores kind of thing. We encourage them to take that money and to live simply and give sacrificially. This brings honor to God and brings good to others.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the things we did, as a family, is that we had rice to eat one day a month. We took what that meal would have cost for our family of eight, and we sponsored a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, if I was doing it again, I would say: \u201cI want to sponsor a child in a ministry that is gospel-centered\u2014that is going to share Jesus Christ as they feed the children \/ as they dig a well. The important thing is to train your children to think outside of their own family. The family can be an ingrown unit in this culture\u2014satisfying their own needs and not be thinking compassionately about the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, if you\u2019re going to train your kids in that direction, then you have to have your own thinking aligned, biblically. You\u2019ve got to have your mind renewed on the kinds of things we\u2019ve been talking about today. That\u2019s where a book like the book that you have written, David, called <em>Counter Culture<\/em>, is going to be helpful for a lot of moms and dads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of David\u2019s book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. When you get to the website, look in the upper left-hand corner for the button that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d When you click on that button, you\u2019ll see David\u2019s book right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s called <em>Counter Culture<\/em>. You can order copies from us, online. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. You can also call to order. Our toll free number is 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that we are committed to, here at FamilyLife, is trying to equip and help husbands and wives have a marriage relationship that thrives \/ one that flourishes. We think one of the foundational elements for that kind of a marriage is when husbands and wives spend time, each day, praying together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring the month of September, we have a challenge for you. We would like to encourage you to join with thousands of other couples, all around the country, in taking a 30-day prayer challenge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you sign up for this together, as husband and wife, we will send you a daily prayer prompt. It\u2019ll give you a thought to consider, and it will give you something that both of you can pray about together. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and sign up to be a part of what we believe will be a life-changing experience for husbands and wives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, while you are on our website, would you consider making a yearend contribution in support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>?\u00a0 I know you\u2019re thinking, \u201cThis isn\u2019t the end of the year.\u201d It\u2019s not the end of the calendar year, but August is the end of the fiscal year for FamilyLife. We are about to close the books on one year and start a new year of ministry in September. We\u2019re hoping to end this fiscal year in a healthy position, financially. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you are online, at FamilyLifeToday.com, look for the button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d so you can make an online donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. 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David Platt wonders why believers are rising up against popular social injustices like poverty and slavery, but remain silent on other issues like abortion.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-08-17.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are lots of issues that press in on us in this culture\u2014issues that demand a biblical response\u2014things like poverty, racism, sex slavery, immigration, abortion, persecution, pornography. What is a follower of Jesus to do?\u00a0 Here\u2019s David Platt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>In a culture where these issues are so prevalent, we <em>all <\/em>need to be equipped to share with others how the gospel affects the way we think about each of these issues. Then, when it comes to how we act, no one person is going to address poverty, while starting a pregnancy care clinic, while adopting five orphans into their home, and on and on and on. This is where I encourage folks just to read through all these issues\u2014think about the gospel and then ask the Lord, \u201cWhat specifically are you leading me to do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Monday, August 17<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to hear a compassionate call to living counter-culturally today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Thanks for joining us. I have to tell you\u2014I was a little surprised when I heard that the next book David Platt was going to write was going to be a book addressing contemporary issues. Just because of all of the things I\u2019ve read from him, I just didn\u2019t expect this was the next place he was going to go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. After writing a book called <em>Radical<\/em>, you kind of wonder, \u201cNow, why did he do that?\u201d So, I\u2019m going to ask him. First of all\u2014David, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> It\u2019s great to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>David and his wife Heather have just moved to Richmond, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe heads up the International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention. Used to be a pastor for a number of years and has taken on an international assignment. Let\u2019s go to Bob\u2019s topic, here: \u201cWhy in the world did you tackle a book on contemporary social issues?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Really, when you think about it, what drove me to write this book is really the application of what I had written in <em>Radical<\/em>. Too, what I see is the most pressing social issues around us in our culture\u2014so just a deep, personal, pastoral burden [drove] me to write this book. When I look at the rapidly-shifting moral landscape that we live in and the number of social issues\u2014ranging from poverty, to same-sex marriage, to sex trafficking, to religious liberty, racism\u2014how does the gospel compel us to live radically \/ counter-culturally in light of these issues?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. What I want our listeners to know here, at the beginning, is\u2014I want them to think and listen attentively to what the Holy Spirit has to say to <em>them <\/em>about: \u201cWhat\u2019s the application out of what David\u2019s talking about for you\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014as a single man, married man, married woman, or a parent raising children today?\u00a0 This is really the assignment of the family isn\u2019t it; David?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. I\u2019m so glad you mentioned that, just at the start, because that was my prayer in writing this <em>Counter Culture<\/em> book\u2014was to say: \u201cHere are these issues. Let\u2019s look at our lives. Let\u2019s look at our sphere of influence. Let\u2019s look at where God\u2019s put our lives, marriages, families. How can we be a part of applying the gospel practically, right where we live, in light of these pressing social issues?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Parent\u2019s hearts are going to end up being displayed to their children and what they\u2019re passionate about is going to be caught by their children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>David we\u2019ve got, as you know, a generation of younger evangelicals, who kind of feel like we need to shy away from the issues you\u2019re addressing here\u2014that we will, in fact, hurt the gospel if we tackle culture war issues. They\u2019re saying the culture wars need to be done away with, and we need to be focusing on just sharing about Jesus with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> I get that because I was there. One, I want to be focused on sharing about Jesus with people, primarily, over and above everything else\u2014but take an issue like abortion\u2014for years, I was shamefully passive on that issue \/ just totally silent\u2014not just as a Christian\u2014but as a pastor, would hardly address it because I had it over here, in this political sphere that I wasn\u2019t going to touch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I\u2019m reading Psalm 139 one day. It was just like: \u201cHow can I <em>not<\/em> address this issue?\u00a0 This is <em>not <\/em>a political issue. Before that, it\u2019s a <em>God issue<\/em> \/ it\u2019s a gospel issue\u2014God\u2019s love for the children He\u2019s creating in the womb.\u201d Then realizing: \u201cOkay, I\u2019ve got to\u2014I\u2019m compelled to act on this issue. Before it\u2019s ever a political issue, it\u2019s a gospel issue.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s really the application of our forgiveness as we pierce the darkness of a culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI almost recoiled, Bob, when you said the word, \u201cculture wars\u201d because I don\u2019t view, frankly, the topics you\u2019re talking about here as a culture war issue. To me, it\u2019s a matter of, as you say, justice. It\u2019s a matter of bringing the truth of God\u2019s Word to a world that doesn\u2019t know what\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right. You look at an issue like orphans and widows. When you believe the gospel \/ when you\u2019ve been adopted by God, Himself, then you are compelled to act when it comes to orphans around you. Not that everybody is going to adopt\u2014although, many people the Lord will lead to do that\u2014but to say, in a \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJames 1:27-kind-of-way: \u201cHow can we look after the orphan and the widow?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know that, when we go in the marketplace and say, \u201cWe care about orphans and widows\u201d, everybody goes, \u201cGood for you!\u201d They cheer you on. 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Give us these children.\u201d At that point, the culture may end up saying, \u201cYou know, maybe there\u2019s something to their argument being against abortion and being pro-life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Let me give a great picture of that. Even in the church that I pastored, we were reading\/studying James 1:27: \u201cReligion that God our Father looks at as pure and faultless is to look after orphans and widows in their distress.\u201d We called up the Department of Human Resources in our county and said: \u201cHow many kids, in foster care, do you have that need help right now? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHow many families would it take to be able to care for all the kids in our county?\u201d They kind of laughed at me. I said, \u201cNo, really\u2014how many families?\u201d They said, \u201cWe could probably use 150 more families.\u201d The need was so great. Two weeks later, we had an informational meeting. Families came pouring in, and 150 of our families signed up to care for every child in foster care in our county. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat that did is\u2014it not only provided an avenue to care for these kids in a way that displayed the gospel\u2014but then it provides all the more fuel for us to then go to women, who are struggling to discern whether or not to keep a baby and say, \u201cThere\u2019s actually a whole mechanism that\u2019s set up for your children to be cared for\u2014either through adoption, or in this way or that way\u2014come alongside you.\u201d When we show that kind of effect of the gospel in our lives \/ in the church, then it has ripple effects far beyond. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want our listeners to hear is that was David Platt, the pastor, reaching out to a governmental agency offering help. I want you to know, as a layman, you can do this too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a movement, across our country, of families who are stepping up and saying: \u201cGive us your children. Work with us and train the families I bring to you.\u201d It\u2019s happening in county after county, across the country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. That\u2019s what is so exciting to see, as God wakes people up to the reality of needs around\u2014how the gospel compels us to address those needs around us\u2014and the creativity of God in how He leads different families to do different things\u2014to care for children, in His name, in these ways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can just tell you story after story, when you walk through the preschool area of our church. You just see children from different countries, that have been adopted; but you also see different children from all over the city, who are walking through challenging times. Each one of them represents a story of a family who\u2019s coming alongside and loving that child\u2014not just that child \/ but in a foster-care situation, loving the parents of that child, and working toward reunification and the health of that family\u00a0 It\u2019s just a <em>beautiful<\/em> thing to see the gospel taking root in families in that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>David, I think one of the things the enemy does is\u2014he goes to families and he whispers in their ears: \u201cYou can\u2019t make a difference. You\u2019re just one dad,\u201d \u201c\u2026just one mom,\u201d \u201c\u2026just one family. God can\u2019t use you\u2014you\u2019re not seminary-trained.\u201d That really is one of the greatest lies that has the church paralyzed today in our culture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It really is. One of the things I address in the <em>Counter Culture<\/em> book is that tendency we have to say, \u201cWell, I can\u2019t fix everything, so I won\u2019t do anything.\u201d It is\u2014it\u2019s a lie straight from the adversary because God has uniquely designed His body to reach out to individual children in ways that have far-reaching effects. You think about just one of these children\u2014who\u2019s being cared for \/ loved in foster care and adoption, through a family that\u2019s showing them the love of the Father to the fatherless\u2014the effect in that one child\u2019s life and how that will have ripple effects <em>far beyond<\/em> that one child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What did you do, as a pastor in Birmingham, to motivate or to unleash people to get engaged in ministry?\u00a0 How did you cast that vision?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I would say it\u2019s two-fold. One, I kept giving them the gospel\u2014kept reminding them. That sounds overly simplistic but even to connect that to what we were just talking about when it comes to foster care. Many of the children in foster care have some rough backgrounds. When it comes to foster care and adoption, this isn\u2019t\u2014it\u2019s not an easy task \/ it\u2019s really difficult for families. So, why would a family bring a child into their home? Maybe because they have fetal alcohol syndrome\u2014he\u2019s going to be very rebellious \/ it is going to be very hard in the home. So, why would a family take that risk and do that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s why\u2014because they know that there was a day, when they were running away from God and rebellion against Him\u2014God, in His mercy, reached out His hand of grace into their heart and brought them from death to life and adopted them as His children. As a result, it now\u2014it just makes sense to do the same thing in other children\u2019s lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI keep giving them the gospel and then helping them think through\u2014just to kind of seed practical ideas:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHere\u2019s how you could potentiality apply the gospel then, in a foster child\u2019s life.\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s how you can apply the gospel in this pregnancy care center.\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s how you can apply the gospel in the midst of sex trafficking around us in the city,\u201d or whatever it may be. To think intentionally through: \u201cThis gospel that I believe is not just a Sunday-by-Sunday thing. This affects every facet of my being and my life,\u201d and to think through the practical ways that can play out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re not challenging people to do something that you and Heather haven\u2019t done.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Adoption, by God\u2019s grace, is a part of our story\u2014that God has blessed us with four kids. Two of them are adopted, and I\u2019m so thankful. Even as we were just talking, just a second ago, about the effect\u2014I mean, \u201cCan you really have that great an effect?\u201d I think about our son from Kazakhstan \/ our daughter from China\u2014and just the effect they\u2019ve had on my life; much less, my wife and I are having on their life. Don\u2019t underestimate, for a second, what God will do when your family gets serious about applying the gospel to these issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want our listeners also to know\u2014just as in God\u2019s family, it\u2019s not perfect after they get redeemed and after He adopts us\u2014when you reach out and you get involved in these social issues, it\u2019s going to be messy. It\u2019s not going to be perfect. It\u2019s <em>not <\/em>going to be some warm feeling, where everything falls in place, and it\u2019s going to be really easy to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo, we\u2019re talking about doing the hard work of persevering \/ of faith, working through difficulties. This is gritty stuff you\u2019re challenging people to do\u2014it\u2019s discipleship stuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It is. It\u2019s very gritty and it is discipleship. We tell our folks, all the time in the church: \u201cDon\u2019t adopt or start caring for foster children because you want a cuter Christmas card to send out to your friends. This is not what gospel ministry is about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s about addressing some really challenging circumstances sometimes\u2014and at great risk\u2014but it\u2019s worth it.\u201d That\u2019s the beauty and this is the way the gospel always works. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is the invitation to Christ: \u201cDeny yourself, take up your cross and follow Me.\u201d So, die to yourself because there\u2019s better life for you. It\u2019s worth it to walk through the grit because of\u00a0 what it will do\u2014not just in somebody else\u2019s life, as they see the love of Christ expressed through you toward them\u2014but what it will do in your own life \/ in your own relationship with Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> David, there are nine subjects listed on the front of your book: Poverty, Same-Sex Marriage, Racism, Sex Slavery, Immigration, Persecution, Abortion, Orphans, [and] Pornography. I read that list and I think to myself: \u201cIf I\u2019m going to try to live out a gospel-centered response to those, I\u2019m overwhelmed just by looking at the list\u2014to try to speak to one of those feels consuming.\u201d How do we, as Christians, calibrate our lives so that we know: \u201cAm I supposed to be speaking to all of these? What do I do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> In this <em>Counter Culture <\/em>book, I take each chapter and address a different issue. At the end of each chapter, I try to give some practical take-aways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne: \u201cHow does knowing about these issues affect the way we pray?\u201d because that\u2019s something all of us can do\u2014just from our knees\u2014and not to underestimate the value of what it means to go before the Lord and intercede on behalf of those who are being trafficked around the world for sex and intercede on behalf of those who are poor. \u201cHow does it affect the way we pray?\u201d \u201cHow does it affect the way we speak?\u201d I think, in a culture where these issues are so prevalent, we all need to be equipped to share with others how the gospel affects the way we think about each of these issues. That, I think, is consistent with all of them: \u201cHow we pray,\u201d \/ \u201cHow we speak on these issues.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, when it comes to how we act, this is where I encourage folks just to read through all these issues\u2014think about the gospel \/ let it inform your praying and your speaking\u2014and then ask the Lord, \u201cWhat specifically are You leading me to do?\u201d God may lead this person to address this issue in that way \/ this person to address that issue in that way. As we\u2019re doing that, the creativity of God\u2014He will lead us to do all kinds of different things in ways that resound to His glory in each one of our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the first issues you tackle\u2014in fact, I guess it is the first issue\u2014it\u2019s poverty. Jesus spoke a lot about the poor. I wonder: \u201cToday, in our country\u2014if we\u2019re so rich today in our evangelical church\u2014that we\u2019ve really forgotten or have perhaps passively ignored the poor among us and haven\u2019t really addressed their needs.\u201d Speak to that if you would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s right on\u2014that\u2019s exactly what we\u2019ve done. First Timothy 6 talks about how we\u2019re prone to do that\u2014it\u2019s because we think of wealth in relative terms. We always think of people who are wealthier than us, but the reality is when 90-plus percent\u2014not just the world, but world history\u2014looks at the wealthy, they think of us. We don\u2019t need to feel bad about that. My aim, in that chapter, specifically, is that\u2014by no means to present a guilt trip\u2014but to say: \u201cWhy has God given us this wealth? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cMaybe He\u2019s given it to us for the spread of His worship \/ for the spread of His goodness\u2014to display Him as Father to the fatherless by using wealth to care for those who are in need\u2014to look at those who are poor and say, \u2018How can we best be an expression of God\u2019s character to them?\u2019 which we see all <em>throughout <\/em>Scripture\u2014to really seriously think about this in a world where we are surrounded by <em>massive <\/em>physical need.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me ask you some real practical questions in the area of affluence and poverty. When a mom and dad are sitting and thinking, \u201cMaybe it would be fun for us to go to Disneyland on vacation\u201d; and then somebody says, \u201cHow can you go to Disneyland on vacation when there are people dying around the world?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA mom and a dad are trying to figure out what car to get because Mom\u2019s car just broke. They go: \u201cWell, let\u2019s see. This one costs more money but might not break down as much, but how can we spend this much money on a car when there are people dying from starvation?\u201d How do <em>you <\/em>deal with those kinds of dilemmas in a culture of affluence, when you know that you\u2019re going to Disneyworld and kids don\u2019t have a well?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. It\u2019s something I\u2019ve really enjoyed walking our church through, and then, even my own family through\u2014to think through because there are not specific guidelines that we have in Scripture\u2014\u201cI live at this income,\u201d\u2014but I do think we see clear exhortations to live simply and to give sacrificially. To live simply\u2014that doesn\u2019t mean that a Disneyworld vacation is wrong, by any means. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I think there are places\u2014we see in Scripture\u2014you look at a robust theology of possessions\u2014what you\u2019ll see is there\u2019s room for extravagant celebration, even, on periodic basis, but <em>not<\/em> to <em>live in that<\/em>. What we encourage our folks to do \/ what my wife and I have done is just to set a cap on our standard of living. If God entrusts more wealth to us, then don\u2019t raise the standard of living\u2014raise the standard of giving. Just have that much more to give away. That\u2019s where the \u201cgive sacrificially\u201d comes in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we\u2019re exhorted all throughout Scripture that we should be giving in a way that hurts \/ in a way that does lead to sacrifice in some ways. That\u2019s going to look different in different people\u2019s lives. What it does in our hearts\u2014when we start to see, \u201cOkay, I\u2019m not going to have this so that others can have that,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a good discipline for us to build into our families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to ask how you\u2019ve done it, as a daddy. You\u2019ve got four children\u2014Caleb, Joshua, Mara Ruth, and Isaiah. Their ages are?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>They\u2019re nine, seven, four and two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How are you <em>practically<\/em> try to imbed compassion toward the poor and engage your children in this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> When the Lord really began to convict me on these things, we decided we needed to make a change in the house we live in as a family. Now, we only had two kids, at this point; but those two kids walked through that process with us. Obviously, they were young\u2014but seeing us down-size our home\u2014which is a whole nother journey to walk through that even in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife and I\u2014it\u2019s not that she loves all these worldly possessions and I don\u2019t\u2014but just us coming to the same page on \u201cOkay, how are we going to live simply?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a sanctifying process\u2014for a husband and wife to think and pray through that together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember, when we were trying to decide what house to move into\u2014I would bring some houses to the table, \u201cHey let\u2019s look at these\u201d; and she would bring some houses to the table. We just <em>weren\u2019t<\/em> on the same page. I said: \u201cOkay, let\u2019s do it this way\u2014let\u2019s write down a list of the top five things that you value in a house and I value in a house. We\u2019ll just start there.\u201d So we sat down\u2014this will show you how patient my wife is because we sat down and the first thing on her list was just some place for the kids to be able to run around outside\u2014whether it\u2019s a yard or park somewhere\u2014just someplace for the kids to be able to run outside. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe says, \u201cWhat\u2019s the first thing on your list?\u201d My first thing was: \u201cWater.\u201d She said, \u201cWater?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, yes, because a lot of people around the world\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started giving this lecture on \u201cPeople don\u2019t have water in the world.\u201d As I was speaking, I realized: \u201cOh no! I\u2019m so sorry, babe.\u201d It just shows you the patience of my wife, but the process that\u2019s involved. We walked through that process. The Lord brought us on the same page, where we have a house that\u2014again, would be luxurious compared to many places in the world\u2014but we believe is a simple expression of how we can best use our money here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve seen that; and then we\u2019ve tried to help them think through\u2014even as we build in personal routines for them\u2014just basic allowance for chores kind of thing. We encourage them to take that money and to live simply and give sacrificially. This brings honor to God and brings good to others.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the things we did, as a family, is that we had rice to eat one day a month. We took what that meal would have cost for our family of eight, and we sponsored a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, if I was doing it again, I would say: \u201cI want to sponsor a child in a ministry that is gospel-centered\u2014that is going to share Jesus Christ as they feed the children \/ as they dig a well. The important thing is to train your children to think outside of their own family. The family can be an ingrown unit in this culture\u2014satisfying their own needs and not be thinking compassionately about the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, if you\u2019re going to train your kids in that direction, then you have to have your own thinking aligned, biblically. You\u2019ve got to have your mind renewed on the kinds of things we\u2019ve been talking about today. That\u2019s where a book like the book that you have written, David, called <em>Counter Culture<\/em>, is going to be helpful for a lot of moms and dads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of David\u2019s book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. When you get to the website, look in the upper left-hand corner for the button that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d When you click on that button, you\u2019ll see David\u2019s book right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s called <em>Counter Culture<\/em>. You can order copies from us, online. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. You can also call to order. Our toll free number is 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that we are committed to, here at FamilyLife, is trying to equip and help husbands and wives have a marriage relationship that thrives \/ one that flourishes. We think one of the foundational elements for that kind of a marriage is when husbands and wives spend time, each day, praying together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring the month of September, we have a challenge for you. We would like to encourage you to join with thousands of other couples, all around the country, in taking a 30-day prayer challenge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you sign up for this together, as husband and wife, we will send you a daily prayer prompt. It\u2019ll give you a thought to consider, and it will give you something that both of you can pray about together. 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