{"id":303485,"date":"2015-05-08T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-05-08T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/facing-pregnancy-again\/"},"modified":"2015-05-08T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-05-08T15:00:00","slug":"facing-pregnancy-again","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/facing-pregnancy-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Facing Pregnancy? Again"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Leslie Leyland Fields talks about the feelings and concerns women have when they find themselves unexpectedly pregnant. 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I would say: \"I'm pregnant!\u201d and \u201cI'll be 64 when this baby graduates\"; you know? I <em>knew<\/em> everybody would understand all that I was communicating in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, May 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. There are a lot of emotions that can come with the unexpected news from the doctor that you're going to have a baby. We'll talk about those emotions today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. Did they have those pregnancy-test things, back in the old days, when you and Barbara were\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u201cback in the old days,\u201d\u2014[Laughing]\u2014listen to me\u2014I'm just digging at you a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Back in the days, where you were too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I remember\u2014I guess I can tell this\u2014I remember when we suspected that we might be pregnant with our last child\u2014with David. Mary Ann and I had gone to do some shopping; and we decided: \u201cWell, we'll just buy one of those pregnancy tests.\u201d I think we were at Sam's\u2014you know, a wholesale club\u2014so we bought like six of them, you know, because you've got to buy them in the multi-pack. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Cheaper.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, yes, it was cheaper to buy six.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Like the straws, remember?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We figured we'd share them with some friends or something\u2014you know, sell them on the side.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You could put them right next to the straws in your garage, where there are four billion straws. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Thank you for bringing that up. I remember\u2014we bought it\u2014and then we thought, \"Well, why wait until we get home?\" So Mary Ann just disappeared into the ladies' room, there at Sam's, and I'm waiting outside at Sam's.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What a romantic spot to find out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, when it's time for number five, romance is kind of over with on the whole deal. You just want to know what we've got going on here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So was number five planned?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, I'd really have to go back and say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Were any of your five unplanned?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I would say all five of ours\u2014we were at different places in terms of whether we were trying to get pregnant or not trying to get pregnant\u2014but all of them just kind of came. We decided, back at the beginning, that we were just going to kind of go with whatever. So we weren't doing a whole lot of planning, one way or another.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, number six, for us\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014Laura\u2014and bless Laura's heart, she knows this\u2014she was not planned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She was a surprise baby.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we know, from statistical research, that about six out of ten pregnancies are unplanned. Well, we got one of those six-out-of-ten with Laura. When I came home from work that day, although I don't remember the exact circumstances, I just remember that Barbara was not a happy camper. She was not as elated as she had been with the previous five.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was not on her radar screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, her\u2014she had kind of, emotionally and spiritually, kind of resolutely set her face toward being a mom and raising these kids to maturity. She had some other dreams and other plans for her life, and this was one of those\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Five sounded like a good number to her, and she wasn't so sure that six did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She had to process it. Frankly, if this book, that is entitled <em>Surprise Child<\/em> by Leslie Fields, had been available, this would have been a purchase that I would have made for my wife because Barbara needed to read this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to welcome Leslie to the broadcast\u2014welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Thank you. Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie is an author \/ she is a commercial fisherwoman\u2014actually runs the nets off of Kodiak Island, Alaska, for king salmon, red salmon, and silver salmon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes; but I wanted\u2014you know, my husband and my children do that mostly\u2014I'm pretty much retired. If they catch lots of fish and they need me, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She has also been a teacher at Seattle Pacific University and has authored this book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd recapping your story, Leslie\u2014at the age of 43, at that point, you already had four children, 12 and under. As far as you were concerned, you were a little bit like Barbara, my wife\u2014you already had your plans\u2014you weren't expecting to get pregnant. Yet, you found yourself pregnant at 43; and then two years later, <em>again<\/em> at 45, with two unplanned pregnancies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I had to tell you\u2014when I was reading your book, there was a story that\u2014well, it's not a story. It's as much of how you felt, at that moment when you found out you were pregnant, and you were no longer going to be able to fit in your jeans that you'd worked so hard to be able to fit into.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You wrote an entry in your journal about it; didn't you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, I sure did! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Share that with our listeners, if you would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Okay, well, yes, you have to understand that this is\u2014after my fifth pregnancy, it took me a year to get rid of all of that baby weight. I find, just after I get \/ I'm able to snap up those jeans again; okay?\u2014I can't breathe\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but never mind that; you know?\u2014the jeans are on! Just shortly after that, I find out that I'm pregnant again. This is what I wrote in my journal: \"I am going to burn my closet\u2014[Laughter]\u2014all those clothes I just got back into after the last pregnancy. Leggings again?\u2014 stretch pants, accordion-pleated tops, billowing sails\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Don't you love those clothing? Barbara looked so cute in it all, but she didn't feel cute at all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>\"I will strangle myself with anything containing spandex\u2014clothes that affix no boundary upon my body. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWill I survive it all again or just inflate like a dirigible, never to find my bones again, never to walk light and small upon this earth? No! I won't gain weight this time, not a pound! I'll stop eating\u2014I'll <em>starve<\/em> myself\u2014I can't do it again!\" [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, every man needs to hear that paragraph because it will give him a greater compassion for his wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Because just about every woman could have written that paragraph and feels that, at some point, whether it's at the beginning of the second trimester or even at the end of the delivery, when you're looking down and going: \"Okay, how does all this come off? What do I do now?!\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cWhere does all this go?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, our listeners\u2014and we talked about this a little bit earlier\u2014but many of our listeners struggle to get pregnant\u2014and you all \/ you and your husband mentioned that you struggled to get pregnant for two years out of the first ten of your married life together. Now, you've written a book about how you struggled with <em>being <\/em>pregnant, not once, but twice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou're just being real, at this point; aren't you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. You know, I'm being real because this is what I needed when I went through my pregnancies. I didn't feel a lot of permission to be real, and to be open, and to be honest, even necessarily within my church. I think this is a message for our churches\u2014that, yes, we do celebrate life\u2014but we have to recognize there are a lot of women, who are struggling with being pregnant. There are a lot of women who are not in the circumstances that I was in. There are women who are in much, much more difficult circumstances\u2014maybe their husband has just left them, maybe they are <em>not <\/em>married\u2014there are just all kinds of difficult circumstances that women find themselves in when they're pregnant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you talk to a lot of those women in those circumstances. I guess what you heard is that this wide range of emotions\u2014that you were feeling\u2014it's very common for women to feel these emotions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to pick up on something you said\u2014where you said you think the church needs to hear this message. Do most of us, do you think, tend to expect that the theologically-precise response is what everyone will quickly get to\u2014that you find out you're pregnant\u2014you know you should be glad; and so, \u201cBe glad!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Exactly, and that's what I experienced. I had people\u2014elders in the church\u2014would just come up and sort of pound me on the back with congratulations that I was pregnant. Here I am, mourning and grieving, and they're cheering. And, you know, that\u2014that's not a good feeling. You <em>want<\/em> people \/ you <em>need <\/em>people to understand where you are and to join you in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, yes, I knew that God is the maker of all life\u2014I knew that, and I knew that there would come a time when I would feel joy\u2014but I was not there then. It took me a while to get there, and I need people to join me where I was\u2014in the sadness \/ in the anxiety. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need people to understand that. That's what other women need too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Rather than standing outside the circle and saying: \"You should be here. Come here,\" you walk into the circle\u2014put your arm around somebody and say: \"This has got to be hard. Let me feel with you.\" This is what the Bible talks about when it says that we are to suffer when others suffer \/ we're to grieve when others grieve\u2014we enter into that, and we bear their burden with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. And for those who have found it difficult to get pregnant, they may find it equally difficult to enter into that circle\u2014with someone who is struggling with <em>being<\/em> pregnant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can't recall the exact circumstances that you wrote about in your book, Leslie, but you had three sons and a daughter. You wanted another daughter, it seems, and someone asked you a pair of questions: \u201cIf I promise you that you can have a son, would you have one? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIf I promise you that you could have a daughter, would you?\u201d And that really caused some interesting soul-searching on your part.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. It was actually my husband who would always tease me after our four children\u2014he would say: \"Now, Leslie, if you knew you could have another daughter,\"\u2014because we were just crazy in love with our daughter, as well as our sons, of course, but she was the <em>queen<\/em>. We always hoped that the queen would have a sister.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A little princess!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes, a princess. And Duncan would say to me, \"Oh, Leslie, wouldn't you just <em>love<\/em> to have another daughter?\" And my response always was, \u201cYou know, if we got pregnant and had another child, I guarantee you, it would be a boy.\" Unfortunately, I was right\u2014but, no, <em>fortunately<\/em>, because that is God. I can't\u2014I would never want to undo what God has done. My two sons that came to us later in life\u2014<em>I adore them<\/em> \/ <em>I love them to death<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie, you did something in your fifth month of pregnancy, I believe, you had a test done because of Down syndrome. Share with us why you did that on both of your pregnancies, one when you were 43 and the other at 45.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. Most doctors recommend that you have an amniocentesis after age 35 because of the risk for a chromosomal abnormality\u2014it just increases with advancing age. And with my last pregnancy, the risk was 1 in 21. I had never had an amnio done for any of my other pregnancies. I decided to go ahead and have an amnio done\u2014not because I was planning to terminate the pregnancy if there was an abnormality\u2014but mostly because I wanted to know whatever could be known about this child, just to help me prepare for the coming of this child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And a lot of people, when faced with the option of an amniocentesis, will say, \u201cNo, we\u2019re not going to do that because it wouldn\u2019t change anything.\u201d You\u2019re saying, \u201cIt wouldn\u2019t have changed anything, but it would have helped me have a mindset to be ready \/ to just be prepared,\u201d as you said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. It was really key for me because, when I found out that it was another boy, I had the opportunity <em>then <\/em>to go through the emotional process that I needed to go through\u2014that: \u201cOkay, this wasn\u2019t a girl. This was another boy,\u201d\u2014and to prepare my heart for this boy. So, when the baby was born and I held him, I didn\u2019t have to say: \u201cOh, my goodness! It\u2019s another boy.\u201d I could say, \u201cHere\u2019s the boy that God made for me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s so many issues that a pregnancy later in life impacts. One is when the last one graduates. You had a standard answer for friends, when they come up and say something to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. Well, this was how I announced my pregnancy to friends\u2014I would say: \u201cI\u2019m pregnant!\u201d and \u201cI\u2019ll be <em>64<\/em> when this baby graduates.\u201d I knew that\u2014I <em>knew<\/em> everybody would understand all that I was communicating in that. They did, and they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s also the issue of career that this impacts too. You made a tough choice\u2014about loving your work but loving something else more?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. I felt very called to what I was doing. I was teaching in a state university; and yet, by the time the sixth pregnancy came along, it was like a Post-It note came drifting down from heaven. On that note, it said: \u201cResign. Resign your position. Give it up.\u201d That was part of the angst that I felt. I was giving up a job that I felt called to\u2014that I had worked many years toward and gone through a lot of education and all of that to be prepared for that position.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was something you loved doing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>I absolutely love doing it. It\u2019s a passion to teach\u2014and to teach about truth, and teach about literature, and writing. It was definitely a passion, but God <em>called me<\/em>\u2014it was very clear to me God was calling me <em>out of that<\/em> to be home, to have this baby, and to be there for my children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So: \u201cGive up something you love and give up the economic benefit that comes with that; and, by the way, here are a couple of more mouths to feed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely; and \u201cHere is another boy.\u201d Our lives are already very complicated because of commercial fishing, and because we move, and because we live in the very northern part of the United States, where there are long, long dark winters \/ very harsh weather, so it was\u2014the whole package was very difficult for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love the quote in your book\u2014you said, \"I was leaving the work I loved for the work of loving another.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat takes a lot of courage. Was your husband in this with you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>He was very careful to make sure that it was my decision. He didn't want to influence my decision either way. He wanted me to know that he was going to support me, no matter which way I chose. It was so clear to me that it was not even possible\u2014it wasn't even physically possible to continue teaching with six children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But he had to step up, as a result of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>He did. He was fully-supportive of my decision to step down. He knew what that loss meant to me, and I appreciated that. He was very sympathetic and understanding\u2014what that meant\u2014and it put a lot more pressure on him, financially.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Just kind of an idle curiosity\u2014your two youngest boys\u2014what months were they born in?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>November and December.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>November and December\u2014so I'm thinking, \u201cAt the end of a long, harsh winter\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014the thought came to me\u2014\u201cOkay, it's making sense!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie, you tell a story of a little moment, where you had the privilege of visiting your husband's dad's home\u2014your father-in-law's home. You took your newborn son, Abraham, and put him on DeWitt\u2014is that his name?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>That's right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014on DeWitt's chest. DeWitt is 86\u2014or was 86 years of age, at that point\u2014and you had a chance just to witness a very sweet moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>It was a sweet moment, and I do remember that moment. I was very tired, just from caring for five children. I think it was close to the holiday season. We had gone to visit Duncan's parents, who live in Kodiak\u2014so we saw them often. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDeWitt was 86. He had been through just a number of medical emergencies\u2014heart attacks, stroke, cancer\u2014he had been through all of this. Shortly before that visit, he had had a stroke. There were a few doctors who recommended, at the time, that perhaps this was it; and maybe they shouldn't use all the medical technology to keep him alive. We just were not ready to see DeWitt go. We just believed that he could live longer; and so we said: \"No, we want\u2014revive him. Keep him\u2014give him whatever care he needs,\" and so Dewitt was back with us. That was such a joy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe went to visit him, and DeWitt was sitting in his favorite chair. I had Abraham in my arms. Whenever Dewitt saw Abraham\u2014this precious little baby\u2014his eyes always lit up, even when he couldn't speak \/ when he couldn't do anything\u2014when he saw Abraham, he would just get this light on his face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDeWitt was kind of \/ sort of half asleep in his chair. I held Abraham out to him, and DeWitt's eyes lit up. He was\u2014he still had strength in his arms\u2014and he took Abraham. He laid Abraham down on his chest \/ down on his belly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOver the next 10 or 15 minutes, they both went to sleep. Abraham is sleeping on his Grandpa's chest, and both of them\u2014their lips are soft and relaxed. You can see the air blowing out as they breathe\u2014and inhale and exhale. They're sort of snoring very lightly together. As I looked at them, you know, I thought: \"Here is DeWitt, who, by human intent, would not be here now. And there is Abraham, who, by human intent, would not be here now.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd there they are together, loving each other\u2014and the rest of us\u2014we're standing around, and we're looking at this, and we are loving them. You know, at that moment, I thought, \"Who are we to decide who lives and who dies?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You make a statement, at that point in your book, of a conclusion you came to. You said, \"I determined that stretching my body was given to nourish another's soul,\" and that, by you giving birth, you had nourished DeWitt's life in a very special way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLeslie, I think you have also nourished and brought some strength to some moms who wondered if anybody could identify with what they were feeling or they are feeling, being pregnant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just appreciate you and your authenticity but, also, your commitment to ultimately move beyond circumstances to believe the truth about God, and the truth of His Word, and respond in faith. Thanks for being on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, thank you so much for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, there have to be folks, who are listening today, who are either in the circumstance that you were in, when you wrote this book, Leslie, or who know somebody who, in the last month or two, got unexpected news about a baby being born. For them, that news did not bring an immediate sense of joy. It would be helpful, I think, for our listeners to get a copy of your book and maybe pass it on to a friend they know who might be experiencing an unplanned pregnancy and help them walk through the emotions that they may be experiencing with the news that they\u2019re expecting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of Leslie Field\u2019s book, which is called <em>Surprise Child<\/em>. It\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You\u2019ll see a link there for the book, <em>Surprise Child<\/em>, which you can order, online; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and request a copy of the book over the phone. So, either go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order; or call 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we\u2019re wrapping things up here this week, our hope is that this conversation today\u2014in fact, all that we\u2019ve talked about this week on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014we hope you have found it helpful. Our goal, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, is to provide you with practical biblical help for your marriage and your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I remember, Dennis, back when we first began this broadcast, back in 1992\u2014one of the things we said was: \u201cWe\u2019d like to think that each week, as folks tune in to listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, they can walk away with solid biblical help that they can apply in their marriage and their family as they\u2019re raising their children or as they are cultivating a healthy, strong, thriving marriage relationship.\u201d That\u2019s our goal each time we sit down for one of these radio programs. We hope it offers help.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor those of you who would say, \u201cYou know, we have benefitted from listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>,\u201d we\u2019d like to ask you to consider making a donation, right now, to help support this ministry. The reason we\u2019re asking you to do it right now is because we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who\u00a0 have agreed to match every donation we receive this month, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $300,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you called today and said, \u201cI\u2019d like to give $25 to help <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>,\u201d your gift would have double the impact, thanks to this matching-gift opportunity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould you consider going to FamilyLifeToday.com, click the link in the upper right-hand corner that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d and make an online donation today? Or, call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make a donation over the phone\u2014or you can mail a donation to us. Our mailing address is PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. We just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do in support of this ministry. We appreciate your partnership with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Can I say one more thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Absolutely\u2014go ahead.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong> You know, when women of faith find themselves pregnant, sometimes they think that they don\u2019t have a choice. But women of faith do have a choice. They can receive this child with bitterness, with apathy, with resentment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014or they can receive this child with joy and with love. That\u2019s the choice that is before us when we find out that we\u2019re pregnant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to pray for a woman, who has heard you just say that, and is facing a choice:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHeavenly Father, would You be near each woman, who we\u2019re speaking to right now, with the choices she is facing? May she be a woman of great courage, who embraces the truth of Your Word, Father, and the truth about You. May she do what is right. May she honor You with her life and with her body. In Christ\u2019s name, amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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Leslie shares how the shock of becoming pregnant at 43, eventually became joy","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-05-08.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When Leslie Fields found out that she was pregnant with her sixth child, she did the math real quick.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>I will be <em>64<\/em> when my last one graduates from high school\u2014this is how I announce my pregnancy to friends. I would say: \"I'm pregnant!\u201d and \u201cI'll be 64 when this baby graduates\"; you know? I <em>knew<\/em> everybody would understand all that I was communicating in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, May 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. There are a lot of emotions that can come with the unexpected news from the doctor that you're going to have a baby. We'll talk about those emotions today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. Did they have those pregnancy-test things, back in the old days, when you and Barbara were\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u201cback in the old days,\u201d\u2014[Laughing]\u2014listen to me\u2014I'm just digging at you a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Back in the days, where you were too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I remember\u2014I guess I can tell this\u2014I remember when we suspected that we might be pregnant with our last child\u2014with David. 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I remember\u2014we bought it\u2014and then we thought, \"Well, why wait until we get home?\" So Mary Ann just disappeared into the ladies' room, there at Sam's, and I'm waiting outside at Sam's.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What a romantic spot to find out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, when it's time for number five, romance is kind of over with on the whole deal. You just want to know what we've got going on here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So was number five planned?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, I'd really have to go back and say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Were any of your five unplanned?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I would say all five of ours\u2014we were at different places in terms of whether we were trying to get pregnant or not trying to get pregnant\u2014but all of them just kind of came. We decided, back at the beginning, that we were just going to kind of go with whatever. So we weren't doing a whole lot of planning, one way or another.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, number six, for us\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014Laura\u2014and bless Laura's heart, she knows this\u2014she was not planned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She was a surprise baby.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we know, from statistical research, that about six out of ten pregnancies are unplanned. Well, we got one of those six-out-of-ten with Laura. When I came home from work that day, although I don't remember the exact circumstances, I just remember that Barbara was not a happy camper. She was not as elated as she had been with the previous five.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was not on her radar screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, her\u2014she had kind of, emotionally and spiritually, kind of resolutely set her face toward being a mom and raising these kids to maturity. She had some other dreams and other plans for her life, and this was one of those\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Five sounded like a good number to her, and she wasn't so sure that six did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She had to process it. Frankly, if this book, that is entitled <em>Surprise Child<\/em> by Leslie Fields, had been available, this would have been a purchase that I would have made for my wife because Barbara needed to read this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to welcome Leslie to the broadcast\u2014welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Thank you. Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie is an author \/ she is a commercial fisherwoman\u2014actually runs the nets off of Kodiak Island, Alaska, for king salmon, red salmon, and silver salmon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes; but I wanted\u2014you know, my husband and my children do that mostly\u2014I'm pretty much retired. If they catch lots of fish and they need me, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She has also been a teacher at Seattle Pacific University and has authored this book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd recapping your story, Leslie\u2014at the age of 43, at that point, you already had four children, 12 and under. As far as you were concerned, you were a little bit like Barbara, my wife\u2014you already had your plans\u2014you weren't expecting to get pregnant. Yet, you found yourself pregnant at 43; and then two years later, <em>again<\/em> at 45, with two unplanned pregnancies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I had to tell you\u2014when I was reading your book, there was a story that\u2014well, it's not a story. It's as much of how you felt, at that moment when you found out you were pregnant, and you were no longer going to be able to fit in your jeans that you'd worked so hard to be able to fit into.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You wrote an entry in your journal about it; didn't you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, I sure did! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Share that with our listeners, if you would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Okay, well, yes, you have to understand that this is\u2014after my fifth pregnancy, it took me a year to get rid of all of that baby weight. I find, just after I get \/ I'm able to snap up those jeans again; okay?\u2014I can't breathe\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but never mind that; you know?\u2014the jeans are on! Just shortly after that, I find out that I'm pregnant again. This is what I wrote in my journal: \"I am going to burn my closet\u2014[Laughter]\u2014all those clothes I just got back into after the last pregnancy. Leggings again?\u2014 stretch pants, accordion-pleated tops, billowing sails\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Don't you love those clothing? Barbara looked so cute in it all, but she didn't feel cute at all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>\"I will strangle myself with anything containing spandex\u2014clothes that affix no boundary upon my body. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWill I survive it all again or just inflate like a dirigible, never to find my bones again, never to walk light and small upon this earth? No! I won't gain weight this time, not a pound! I'll stop eating\u2014I'll <em>starve<\/em> myself\u2014I can't do it again!\" [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, every man needs to hear that paragraph because it will give him a greater compassion for his wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Because just about every woman could have written that paragraph and feels that, at some point, whether it's at the beginning of the second trimester or even at the end of the delivery, when you're looking down and going: \"Okay, how does all this come off? What do I do now?!\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cWhere does all this go?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, our listeners\u2014and we talked about this a little bit earlier\u2014but many of our listeners struggle to get pregnant\u2014and you all \/ you and your husband mentioned that you struggled to get pregnant for two years out of the first ten of your married life together. Now, you've written a book about how you struggled with <em>being <\/em>pregnant, not once, but twice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou're just being real, at this point; aren't you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. You know, I'm being real because this is what I needed when I went through my pregnancies. I didn't feel a lot of permission to be real, and to be open, and to be honest, even necessarily within my church. I think this is a message for our churches\u2014that, yes, we do celebrate life\u2014but we have to recognize there are a lot of women, who are struggling with being pregnant. There are a lot of women who are not in the circumstances that I was in. There are women who are in much, much more difficult circumstances\u2014maybe their husband has just left them, maybe they are <em>not <\/em>married\u2014there are just all kinds of difficult circumstances that women find themselves in when they're pregnant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you talk to a lot of those women in those circumstances. I guess what you heard is that this wide range of emotions\u2014that you were feeling\u2014it's very common for women to feel these emotions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to pick up on something you said\u2014where you said you think the church needs to hear this message. Do most of us, do you think, tend to expect that the theologically-precise response is what everyone will quickly get to\u2014that you find out you're pregnant\u2014you know you should be glad; and so, \u201cBe glad!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Exactly, and that's what I experienced. I had people\u2014elders in the church\u2014would just come up and sort of pound me on the back with congratulations that I was pregnant. Here I am, mourning and grieving, and they're cheering. And, you know, that\u2014that's not a good feeling. You <em>want<\/em> people \/ you <em>need <\/em>people to understand where you are and to join you in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, yes, I knew that God is the maker of all life\u2014I knew that, and I knew that there would come a time when I would feel joy\u2014but I was not there then. It took me a while to get there, and I need people to join me where I was\u2014in the sadness \/ in the anxiety. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need people to understand that. That's what other women need too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Rather than standing outside the circle and saying: \"You should be here. Come here,\" you walk into the circle\u2014put your arm around somebody and say: \"This has got to be hard. Let me feel with you.\" This is what the Bible talks about when it says that we are to suffer when others suffer \/ we're to grieve when others grieve\u2014we enter into that, and we bear their burden with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. And for those who have found it difficult to get pregnant, they may find it equally difficult to enter into that circle\u2014with someone who is struggling with <em>being<\/em> pregnant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can't recall the exact circumstances that you wrote about in your book, Leslie, but you had three sons and a daughter. You wanted another daughter, it seems, and someone asked you a pair of questions: \u201cIf I promise you that you can have a son, would you have one? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIf I promise you that you could have a daughter, would you?\u201d And that really caused some interesting soul-searching on your part.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. It was actually my husband who would always tease me after our four children\u2014he would say: \"Now, Leslie, if you knew you could have another daughter,\"\u2014because we were just crazy in love with our daughter, as well as our sons, of course, but she was the <em>queen<\/em>. We always hoped that the queen would have a sister.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A little princess!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes, a princess. And Duncan would say to me, \"Oh, Leslie, wouldn't you just <em>love<\/em> to have another daughter?\" And my response always was, \u201cYou know, if we got pregnant and had another child, I guarantee you, it would be a boy.\" Unfortunately, I was right\u2014but, no, <em>fortunately<\/em>, because that is God. I can't\u2014I would never want to undo what God has done. My two sons that came to us later in life\u2014<em>I adore them<\/em> \/ <em>I love them to death<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie, you did something in your fifth month of pregnancy, I believe, you had a test done because of Down syndrome. Share with us why you did that on both of your pregnancies, one when you were 43 and the other at 45.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. Most doctors recommend that you have an amniocentesis after age 35 because of the risk for a chromosomal abnormality\u2014it just increases with advancing age. And with my last pregnancy, the risk was 1 in 21. I had never had an amnio done for any of my other pregnancies. I decided to go ahead and have an amnio done\u2014not because I was planning to terminate the pregnancy if there was an abnormality\u2014but mostly because I wanted to know whatever could be known about this child, just to help me prepare for the coming of this child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And a lot of people, when faced with the option of an amniocentesis, will say, \u201cNo, we\u2019re not going to do that because it wouldn\u2019t change anything.\u201d You\u2019re saying, \u201cIt wouldn\u2019t have changed anything, but it would have helped me have a mindset to be ready \/ to just be prepared,\u201d as you said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. It was really key for me because, when I found out that it was another boy, I had the opportunity <em>then <\/em>to go through the emotional process that I needed to go through\u2014that: \u201cOkay, this wasn\u2019t a girl. This was another boy,\u201d\u2014and to prepare my heart for this boy. So, when the baby was born and I held him, I didn\u2019t have to say: \u201cOh, my goodness! It\u2019s another boy.\u201d I could say, \u201cHere\u2019s the boy that God made for me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s so many issues that a pregnancy later in life impacts. One is when the last one graduates. You had a standard answer for friends, when they come up and say something to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. Well, this was how I announced my pregnancy to friends\u2014I would say: \u201cI\u2019m pregnant!\u201d and \u201cI\u2019ll be <em>64<\/em> when this baby graduates.\u201d I knew that\u2014I <em>knew<\/em> everybody would understand all that I was communicating in that. They did, and they do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s also the issue of career that this impacts too. You made a tough choice\u2014about loving your work but loving something else more?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Yes. I felt very called to what I was doing. I was teaching in a state university; and yet, by the time the sixth pregnancy came along, it was like a Post-It note came drifting down from heaven. On that note, it said: \u201cResign. Resign your position. Give it up.\u201d That was part of the angst that I felt. I was giving up a job that I felt called to\u2014that I had worked many years toward and gone through a lot of education and all of that to be prepared for that position.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was something you loved doing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>I absolutely love doing it. It\u2019s a passion to teach\u2014and to teach about truth, and teach about literature, and writing. It was definitely a passion, but God <em>called me<\/em>\u2014it was very clear to me God was calling me <em>out of that<\/em> to be home, to have this baby, and to be there for my children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So: \u201cGive up something you love and give up the economic benefit that comes with that; and, by the way, here are a couple of more mouths to feed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely; and \u201cHere is another boy.\u201d Our lives are already very complicated because of commercial fishing, and because we move, and because we live in the very northern part of the United States, where there are long, long dark winters \/ very harsh weather, so it was\u2014the whole package was very difficult for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love the quote in your book\u2014you said, \"I was leaving the work I loved for the work of loving another.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat takes a lot of courage. Was your husband in this with you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>He was very careful to make sure that it was my decision. He didn't want to influence my decision either way. He wanted me to know that he was going to support me, no matter which way I chose. It was so clear to me that it was not even possible\u2014it wasn't even physically possible to continue teaching with six children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But he had to step up, as a result of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>He did. He was fully-supportive of my decision to step down. He knew what that loss meant to me, and I appreciated that. He was very sympathetic and understanding\u2014what that meant\u2014and it put a lot more pressure on him, financially.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Just kind of an idle curiosity\u2014your two youngest boys\u2014what months were they born in?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>November and December.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>November and December\u2014so I'm thinking, \u201cAt the end of a long, harsh winter\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014the thought came to me\u2014\u201cOkay, it's making sense!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Leslie, you tell a story of a little moment, where you had the privilege of visiting your husband's dad's home\u2014your father-in-law's home. You took your newborn son, Abraham, and put him on DeWitt\u2014is that his name?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>That's right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014on DeWitt's chest. DeWitt is 86\u2014or was 86 years of age, at that point\u2014and you had a chance just to witness a very sweet moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>It was a sweet moment, and I do remember that moment. I was very tired, just from caring for five children. I think it was close to the holiday season. We had gone to visit Duncan's parents, who live in Kodiak\u2014so we saw them often. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDeWitt was 86. He had been through just a number of medical emergencies\u2014heart attacks, stroke, cancer\u2014he had been through all of this. Shortly before that visit, he had had a stroke. There were a few doctors who recommended, at the time, that perhaps this was it; and maybe they shouldn't use all the medical technology to keep him alive. We just were not ready to see DeWitt go. We just believed that he could live longer; and so we said: \"No, we want\u2014revive him. Keep him\u2014give him whatever care he needs,\" and so Dewitt was back with us. That was such a joy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe went to visit him, and DeWitt was sitting in his favorite chair. I had Abraham in my arms. Whenever Dewitt saw Abraham\u2014this precious little baby\u2014his eyes always lit up, even when he couldn't speak \/ when he couldn't do anything\u2014when he saw Abraham, he would just get this light on his face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDeWitt was kind of \/ sort of half asleep in his chair. I held Abraham out to him, and DeWitt's eyes lit up. He was\u2014he still had strength in his arms\u2014and he took Abraham. He laid Abraham down on his chest \/ down on his belly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOver the next 10 or 15 minutes, they both went to sleep. Abraham is sleeping on his Grandpa's chest, and both of them\u2014their lips are soft and relaxed. You can see the air blowing out as they breathe\u2014and inhale and exhale. They're sort of snoring very lightly together. As I looked at them, you know, I thought: \"Here is DeWitt, who, by human intent, would not be here now. And there is Abraham, who, by human intent, would not be here now.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd there they are together, loving each other\u2014and the rest of us\u2014we're standing around, and we're looking at this, and we are loving them. You know, at that moment, I thought, \"Who are we to decide who lives and who dies?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You make a statement, at that point in your book, of a conclusion you came to. You said, \"I determined that stretching my body was given to nourish another's soul,\" and that, by you giving birth, you had nourished DeWitt's life in a very special way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLeslie, I think you have also nourished and brought some strength to some moms who wondered if anybody could identify with what they were feeling or they are feeling, being pregnant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just appreciate you and your authenticity but, also, your commitment to ultimately move beyond circumstances to believe the truth about God, and the truth of His Word, and respond in faith. Thanks for being on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Oh, thank you so much for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, there have to be folks, who are listening today, who are either in the circumstance that you were in, when you wrote this book, Leslie, or who know somebody who, in the last month or two, got unexpected news about a baby being born. For them, that news did not bring an immediate sense of joy. It would be helpful, I think, for our listeners to get a copy of your book and maybe pass it on to a friend they know who might be experiencing an unplanned pregnancy and help them walk through the emotions that they may be experiencing with the news that they\u2019re expecting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of Leslie Field\u2019s book, which is called <em>Surprise Child<\/em>. It\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click the link in the upper left-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You\u2019ll see a link there for the book, <em>Surprise Child<\/em>, which you can order, online; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and request a copy of the book over the phone. So, either go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order; or call 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we\u2019re wrapping things up here this week, our hope is that this conversation today\u2014in fact, all that we\u2019ve talked about this week on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014we hope you have found it helpful. Our goal, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, is to provide you with practical biblical help for your marriage and your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I remember, Dennis, back when we first began this broadcast, back in 1992\u2014one of the things we said was: \u201cWe\u2019d like to think that each week, as folks tune in to listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, they can walk away with solid biblical help that they can apply in their marriage and their family as they\u2019re raising their children or as they are cultivating a healthy, strong, thriving marriage relationship.\u201d That\u2019s our goal each time we sit down for one of these radio programs. 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We just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do in support of this ministry. We appreciate your partnership with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Can I say one more thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Absolutely\u2014go ahead.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie:<\/strong> You know, when women of faith find themselves pregnant, sometimes they think that they don\u2019t have a choice. But women of faith do have a choice. They can receive this child with bitterness, with apathy, with resentment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014or they can receive this child with joy and with love. That\u2019s the choice that is before us when we find out that we\u2019re pregnant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to pray for a woman, who has heard you just say that, and is facing a choice:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHeavenly Father, would You be near each woman, who we\u2019re speaking to right now, with the choices she is facing? May she be a woman of great courage, who embraces the truth of Your Word, Father, and the truth about You. May she do what is right. May she honor You with her life and with her body. In Christ\u2019s name, amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Leslie: <\/strong>Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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