{"id":303387,"date":"2015-02-19T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-02-19T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church\/"},"modified":"2015-02-19T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-02-19T17:00:00","slug":"ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church\/","title":{"rendered":"Ordinary, Yet Tragic, Sins of the Church"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If all sin is ungodliness, why does the church tolerate gossip, slander, and pride? Jerry Bridges, author of Respectable Sins, brings this issue into the light.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2015-02-19.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.78M","filesize_raw":"23882952","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2822],"tags":[5609,5608,5610],"podcast_series":[7613],"cwp_profile":[9148],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303387","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-growing-in-your-faith","tag-complacency","tag-favorite-sins","tag-pursuing-holiness","podcast_series-respectable-sins","cwp_profile-jerry-bridges","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303387\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303387\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"AArUN7YK8K\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church\/\">Ordinary, Yet Tragic, Sins of the Church<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/ordinary-yet-tragic-sins-of-the-church\/embed\/#?secret=AArUN7YK8K\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Ordinary, Yet Tragic, Sins of the Church&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"AArUN7YK8K\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Here is author and speaker, Jerry Bridges. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Eighty-five percent of that age group, outside of the church, considers us hypocritical and judgmental; and you would expect that. But the scary thing is, about 50 percent of those people, within the church, think the same thing. They say we\u2019re hypocritical \/ we\u2019re judgmental\u2014we\u2019re not authentic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, February 19<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Maybe, one of the reasons people don\u2019t have a good impression of Christians today is because of how we\u2019re living\u2014some of our so-called respectable sins. That\u2019s what we\u2019re going to talk about today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to put our guest on the spot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right off the bat here?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do. I want to put him on the spot. He\u2019s a very gifted writer\/speaker. He\u2019s now been on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>a number of times. So, he\u2019s a good friend\u2014I\u2019m not afraid of offending him too much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> But you make me afraid. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Dr. Jerry Bridges joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Jerry, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Now that I\u2019ve put you on notice here, you said\u2014now, this is cool, Bob\u2014he shared with us earlier, before we came in the studio, that he and his wife Jane listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> every\u2014you heard him\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I heard him say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014every morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, I know how infrequently he\u2019s in town. So\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, there you go. So, this may not be a fair question; but you listen to our broadcast. First of all, thank you for doing that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe know you have a lot of choices of what you could listen to, but you choose to do that with your bride\u2014and glad you do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s a very worthwhile program\u2014it\u2019s very popular.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I appreciate that. Tell us one that you\u2019ve listened to recently that you really got a lot out of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One that stands out for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Here is where I wanted to put you on the spot. His eyes are darting back and forth. He now knows where I was going with all this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay. Actually, I\u2014you know, usually we are having breakfast during that time. I\u2019m in the kitchen. I\u2019m listening to the broadcast and eating my cereal or whatever. So, I can\u2019t say that one program was life-changing for me; but I\u2019d say the cumulative effect, listening day after day\u2014and I think the same way when I go to church. We have a great pastor. But, you know, once in a while\u2014\u201cThat\u2019s a bell-ringer. Boy, that really spoke to me,\u201d\u2014but I think more often it\u2019s the cumulative effect, week after week.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s listening to the stories, getting God\u2019s perspective\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014of circumstances and reflecting on that as to how you might take that away in your own marriage and your own relationship with God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Can I put him on the spot too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, go ahead, Bob, since\u2014feel free. Be my guest!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Since we\u2019re talking about the issue of what you call respectable sins in a book that you\u2019ve written by that title\u2014the sins we tolerate \/ the practices that we kind of accept as okay and not really that serious\u2014do you think, among American evangelicals, we have a couple of besetting, tolerable, respectable sins?\u00a0 Are there a few that stand out?\u2014that you would say,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Pets?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cThese are the ones that we gravitate toward,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Well, I would say gossip.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What\u2019s the definition of gossip?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Well, gossip is spreading word about other people\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cJoe and Sally are thinking about getting a divorce,\u201d\u2014these kinds of things. Oftentimes, it\u2019s malicious gossip because people are trying to divide, within the church, for example. Paul said to speak evil of no man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was asked to read a book to consider endorsing. Actually, the man had some good things to say\u2014but sprinkled through that, he was very critical of some other people. I just wrote him and I said, \u201cI cannot endorse this book because I\u2019ve been trying to practice to speak evil of no one. And those criticisms added nothing to the message of the book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Do you mind sharing with our listeners who that was?\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You tempt him! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, but that\u2019s how it happens. It\u2019s exactly how it happens; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> It is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Our curiosity gets the best of us\u2014we ask the question, \u201cWell, who was that?\u201d and it does no good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You did the right thing by writing that individual person. That\u2019s what needs to take place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and as you were describing that, I was thinking back to something I became convicted of\u2014this was a couple of months ago. We were actually studying through a book that NavPress had reprinted, from 100 years ago\u2014a book called <em>The Seven Deadly Sins<\/em> by an English pastor, James Stalker. He had written on each of the classical seven deadly sins. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As we studied through them, God convicted me of the fact that I was delighting in listening to bad reports\u2014that I was having friends who were coming to me and telling me about a bad situation in a particular setting. They were going, \u201cThis is terrible\u201d; and my soul was finding delight in hearing those bad reports.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Because that makes us feel good about ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I had to sit down with a friend and just confess, \u201cThis is what\u2019s been going on with me.\u201d\u00a0 As much as my curiosity wanted to hear some of those things, I had to say, \u201cI just can't hear them anymore,\u201d because it was not healthy. It wasn\u2019t good for my own soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jerry, if a person struggles with gossip\u2014with their tongue flapping a little bit too much\u2014what should they do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> First of all, they have to acknowledge that this is a problem. So many people just gossip, and they\u2019re not aware that it\u2019s\u2014I mean, they just do it automatically. It\u2019s a characteristic of their life\u2014it\u2019s a habit pattern. They can gossip, I think, without even being aware of it. They really need somebody to call them on that\u2014to call attention to it and to say, \u201cThat\u2019s gossip.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope that I did this man\u2014that I referred to\u2014this writer\u2014a service by just pointing out to him that he was speaking evil of people unnecessarily. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt didn\u2019t add a thing to his book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, to that point, Jerry\u2014and I just want to underline that because I had a friend, who came to me and basically said: \u201cDennis\u201d\u2014and he didn\u2019t say it this bluntly, but I got the message\u2014\u201cDennis, you\u2019re complaining. You are simply griping, and grousing, and complaining about these circumstances that you\u2019re dealing with here. Quit bellyaching and deal with it.\u201d\u00a0 And he didn\u2019t say it\u2014but I kept hearing the rest of the sentence\u2014\u201c\u2026and respond to life as God brings it to you every day with faith in Him that God knows what He is doing because He\u2019s a good God. He\u2019s sifting everything that comes my way.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, we may not personally struggle with gossip, but we may have a relationship with a friend or a family member who has this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014as what Bob called\u2014besetting sin. We do them a favor if we go to them and say: \u201cYou know, I\u2019ve been listening to you. I think you just ought to maybe consider this\u2014maybe pray about this: \u2018Do you really, perhaps, enjoy passing on bad things about people and gossiping?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 At that point, leave it with them to consider. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s enough of that that takes place within the Christian community.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to ask you, though, because you referred to somebody saying, \u201cJoe and Sally\u2014did you hear that Joe and Sally are thinking about getting a divorce?\u201d\u00a0 Isn\u2019t there an appropriate context in which I would share that with a brother or a sister in Christ, and it\u2019s not gossip?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes, if we have a redemptive purpose in doing that. In other words, sometimes people can veil their gossip by saying, \u201cI just wanted to tell you this for prayer\u201d; but prayer hasn\u2019t happened. But I would say to those people: \u201cOkay, let\u2019s get down on our knees, right now, and pray about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIs my concern really about Joe and Sally?\u00a0 Am I pouring out my heart to God in grief over what\u2019s happening in their marriage, or do I just want to share bad things because it makes me feel good because I\u2019m not in that situation?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jerry, let\u2019s finish up talking, then, about the person who is struggling with gossip. You said, first of all, they need to come to grips that they may have a problem or do have a problem with it. They can do that on their own \/ maybe, someone confronts them. What do they do after they <em>know<\/em> they have a problem with it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> They have to confess it. Then, they have to take that sin to the cross and leave it at the cross\u2014that Jesus\u2019 blood has cleansed them from that. And then, come away\u2014the old Puritan, John Owen, said: \u201cEvery day, you face your sin. You take it to the cross, and you come away with Christ\u2019s righteousness.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s what we have to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, if the person is really convicted of their sin\u2014and they see that it\u2019s forgiven and that God accepts them as righteous in Christ\u2014then, they are going to say: \u201cGod, I don\u2019t ever want to do that anymore. Now, Holy Spirit, would you make me more sensitive to the occasions when I am about to gossip?\u201d\u00a0 Sometimes, a person will have to\u2014to use our metaphor\u2014bite her tongue or bite his tongue\u2014I\u2019ve had to do that. I\u2019m about to say something\u2014and I say, \u201cNo, I can\u2019t say that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> And so, I believe, if a person is really sincere in wanting the Holy Spirit to help them\u2014that He will. But I think it\u2019s good, also, to commit to memorization\u2014and this is where my Navigator background comes in\u2014key passages of Scripture that help. I would say, in this particular situation,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014Ephesians 4:29: \u201cLet no crooked speech come out of your mouth but only that which is helpful for building others up,\u201d\u2014that, along with the verse in Titus 3, \u201cSpeak evil of no one.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think another big one is moral pride. That is: \u201cWe\u2019re better than these people out here because we\u2019re not doing the big sins,\u201d or even\u2014\u201cWell, I don\u2019t gossip like he does,\u201d or something like that. We can begin to feel good about ourselves and fail to see that we have other issues. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother one is\u2014not only moral pride\u2014but also, I would call it doctrinal or theological pride. Everybody feels like his theology is the right one, and none of us have it all down straight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not that we need to be wishy-washy about our theological convictions, but we do need to hold those convictions in humility and treat people with different convictions with respect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to ask you about both of those. If we have moral pride, then, the challenge of that\u2014the problem with that\u2014is we\u2019re going to find ourselves alienated from the very people that God\u2019s called us to share good news with\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because, if we see ourselves as superior, they are going to know that we see ourselves as superior. It puts a division between us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember hearing Pastor Tim Keller at Redeemer Presbyterian Church, one time, talk about Christians being involved in the city. He said one of the reasons why Christians need to be involved in big cities is because we have the humility to say we can learn from the city. When he said that, I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I can learn from the city.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight there, I was caught with, \u201cOh my, I have a heart of moral superiority \/ spiritual superiority.\u201d\u00a0 I was caught up in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do think that, as evangelicals, we tend to see ourselves as morally and spiritually superior to those around us\u2014rather than seeing ourselves as sinners in need of the grace of God, just like those among whom we co-labor; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Exactly, yes. We can learn from everyone. I mean, <em>nobody<\/em> has it all down pat.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, there\u2019s a book out called <em>Unchristian<\/em>, which is a reflection of attitudes about this generation of 20, 30\u2014maybe early 40s\u2014those young adults who are in this culture and their opinions of Christians. What I think we\u2019re talking about here is touching on what they talked about in the book, and that is that there is a whole generation of young people today that want to see an authentic life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s as you refer to, Jerry, of humility and a right evaluation of who we are\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that we don\u2019t have it all together\u2014that we do have socks hanging out of the suitcase and our lives aren\u2019t perfect. It\u2019s not that we have an answer for everybody\u2019s problem\u2014but that we want to engage a generation that needs Christ \/ needs the Scriptures more than\u2014well, they need it as much as any generation has ever needed it\u2014but, if we don\u2019t have that authenticity, they are not going to be able to hear us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. And, you know, Dennis, the scary thing about some of the statistics in that book\u2014and I\u2019ve read most of the book \/ I kind of read through it\u2014but 85 percent of that age group, outside of the church, consider us hypocritical and judgmental.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> And you would expect that; but the scary thing is\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014about 50 percent of the people, within the church, think the same thing. They see us\u2014I mean, they know us\u2014and they say we\u2019re hypocritical \/ we\u2019re judgmental\u2014we are not authentic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And most of us hear that; and we go: \u201cWell, no!\u00a0 No, we\u2019re not.\u201d\u00a0 And, you know, if enough people start saying, \u201cWell, maybe you are,\u201d maybe you ought to stop and say, \u201cMaybe I am.\u201d\u00a0 Instead of just being defensive about it, maybe, we ought to be aware; and maybe there is something to their criticism.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are two aspects of hypocrisy that I just want to mention here. One is that any follower of Jesus Christ is going to be a hypocrite\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because we\u2019re following the God-Man, the Perfect One, the One who never had any guile, who responded perfectly in every circumstance; and, yes, at that point, I follow Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t do it perfectly. Therefore, I am a hypocrite. But that\u2019s not what rubs people the wrong way in this culture. It\u2019s when we say we follow Him and we make ourselves out to be that perfect person\u2014as though we don\u2019t have any besetting sins, or things that we\u2019re struggling with, and haven\u2019t really talked about something we\u2019ve confessed to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, a key question for all of us is: \u201cWhen was the last time you just confessed a sin?\u201d\u2014just went to God and said: \u201cFather, forgive me for that attitude. Forgive me for the gossip. Forgive me for my anger\/my frustration. I was not acknowledging You as being in charge of everything that\u2019s happening around my life.\u201d\u00a0 And then, be willing to share that, from an authentic standpoint, of how you are in the process of following Christ in your imperfection and not giving up because I think that\u2019s the hope this generation needs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014is that we\u2019re all a bunch of broken people in need of a Savior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jerry, I was in a church, not long ago, where a part of their practice is a corporate confession of sin. In this particular church, as they corporately confessed their sin, they said, \u201cFather, we have sinned against You in thought, and in word, and in deed by things we have done and by things we've left undone.\u201d\u00a0 I thought: \u201cThat's a pretty good confession of sin. I usually think about deeds\u2014things I\u2019ve done that were bad\u2014but there are things I have not done that are sinful. There are things I\u2019ve <em>thought<\/em> that are sinful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe usually let ourselves off the hook on that kind of stuff, and that\u2019s a part of what you're trying to say in <em>Respectable Sins<\/em>. It\u2019s time to quit letting ourselves off the hook for things that God says we should be on the hook for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. Yes, and if we really believe the gospel\u2014if we really believe that Christ died for our sins\u2014then, we can be honest\u2014we can face up to those sins. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s why I would say the most important chapter in this book is the fourth chapter on the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And just to end this message, practically, I want to end it the way we started it\u2014putting you on the spot. I am kind of liking this, Jerry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay. I thought you said you weren\u2019t going to do this. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You sinned with your tongue!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did I say that?\u00a0 I take it back!\u00a0 I\u2019m going to do it again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is my question for you, Jerry\u2014because I think, to the point of authenticity\u2014people would look at you: You\u2019ve walked with Christ for six decades. You\u2019ve been in ministry with Navigators for more than 53 years. You\u2019ve written all these great books. Maybe, your theology isn\u2019t airtight, but you don\u2019t have many socks hanging out of the suitcase\u2014it doesn\u2019t seem. What I want you to share with them is in your relationship with your wife Jane. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere do you see all this colliding and where do you have to practice this same kind of humility, and authenticity, and faith in your relationship with her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> I would say in two areas that stand out to me. First of all is selfishness. You know, I work at home; and she\u2019s there\u2014and so, I\u2019m available. I think: \u201cThese are office hours \/ these are work hours. You shouldn\u2019t intrude on me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you call Barbara before you said that?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Okay, what\u2019s the second one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay, the second one is patience. My wife has\u2014well, I like to live life with a margin, just in every area. I like to have a few dollars in the bank account. I like to leave for the airport in plenty of time that I don\u2019t have to rush.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re saying Jane kind of likes a little adventure around some of these things?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> She has the incredible ability to time it just right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was so charitably said. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> I mean\u2014it really does. We\u2019ve never missed a flight or anything like that. Well\u2014like yesterday morning\u2014she\u2019s going to another city while I am here. And so, I was taking her. I thought, \u201cJane\u2014somebody else.\u201d She was going to ride with somebody else to the airport. They wanted her at their house by 6:30. It\u2019s 6:25 and I\u2019m kind of\u2014but we get there and\u2014guess what?\u00a0 We\u2019re the first one. I mean, even the host, who is going to drive us, is not ready yet!\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a good sport to take two tough questions at the beginning and the end of the broadcast. Thanks, Jerry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and I think, too, you just modeled for us what humility ought to look like and how all of us have these areas in our lives where we just kind of dust them away and say, \u201cThat\u2019s not that big a deal\u2014just how I am.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have this tendency to want to excuse these, so called, respectable sins. I think what you\u2019ve demonstrated for us here is how we have to remain vigilant in our battle with the issue of indwelling, remaining sin in our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope our listeners will get a copy of your book. It\u2019s called <em>Respectable Sins<\/em>. I just talked to somebody, recently, who said they got this book down again from their bookshelf and reread it. I thought, \u201cWell, you\u2019re a glutton for punishment to go back through this a second time!\u201d but they were just talking about\u2014it\u2019s convicting\u2014but it\u2019s also helpful to remind us of these areas that we do tend to minimize or to excuse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe title of the book, again, is <em>Respectable Sins<\/em> by Jerry Bridges. It\u2019s a book that we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com. 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Maybe, one of the reasons people don\u2019t have a good impression of Christians today is because of how we\u2019re living\u2014some of our so-called respectable sins. That\u2019s what we\u2019re going to talk about today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to put our guest on the spot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right off the bat here?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do. I want to put him on the spot. He\u2019s a very gifted writer\/speaker. He\u2019s now been on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>a number of times. 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So\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, there you go. So, this may not be a fair question; but you listen to our broadcast. First of all, thank you for doing that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe know you have a lot of choices of what you could listen to, but you choose to do that with your bride\u2014and glad you do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s a very worthwhile program\u2014it\u2019s very popular.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I appreciate that. Tell us one that you\u2019ve listened to recently that you really got a lot out of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One that stands out for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Here is where I wanted to put you on the spot. His eyes are darting back and forth. He now knows where I was going with all this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay. Actually, I\u2014you know, usually we are having breakfast during that time. I\u2019m in the kitchen. I\u2019m listening to the broadcast and eating my cereal or whatever. So, I can\u2019t say that one program was life-changing for me; but I\u2019d say the cumulative effect, listening day after day\u2014and I think the same way when I go to church. We have a great pastor. But, you know, once in a while\u2014\u201cThat\u2019s a bell-ringer. Boy, that really spoke to me,\u201d\u2014but I think more often it\u2019s the cumulative effect, week after week.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s listening to the stories, getting God\u2019s perspective\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014of circumstances and reflecting on that as to how you might take that away in your own marriage and your own relationship with God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Can I put him on the spot too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, go ahead, Bob, since\u2014feel free. Be my guest!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Since we\u2019re talking about the issue of what you call respectable sins in a book that you\u2019ve written by that title\u2014the sins we tolerate \/ the practices that we kind of accept as okay and not really that serious\u2014do you think, among American evangelicals, we have a couple of besetting, tolerable, respectable sins?\u00a0 Are there a few that stand out?\u2014that you would say,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Pets?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cThese are the ones that we gravitate toward,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Well, I would say gossip.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What\u2019s the definition of gossip?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Well, gossip is spreading word about other people\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cJoe and Sally are thinking about getting a divorce,\u201d\u2014these kinds of things. Oftentimes, it\u2019s malicious gossip because people are trying to divide, within the church, for example. Paul said to speak evil of no man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was asked to read a book to consider endorsing. Actually, the man had some good things to say\u2014but sprinkled through that, he was very critical of some other people. I just wrote him and I said, \u201cI cannot endorse this book because I\u2019ve been trying to practice to speak evil of no one. And those criticisms added nothing to the message of the book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Do you mind sharing with our listeners who that was?\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You tempt him! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, but that\u2019s how it happens. It\u2019s exactly how it happens; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> It is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Our curiosity gets the best of us\u2014we ask the question, \u201cWell, who was that?\u201d and it does no good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You did the right thing by writing that individual person. That\u2019s what needs to take place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and as you were describing that, I was thinking back to something I became convicted of\u2014this was a couple of months ago. We were actually studying through a book that NavPress had reprinted, from 100 years ago\u2014a book called <em>The Seven Deadly Sins<\/em> by an English pastor, James Stalker. He had written on each of the classical seven deadly sins. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As we studied through them, God convicted me of the fact that I was delighting in listening to bad reports\u2014that I was having friends who were coming to me and telling me about a bad situation in a particular setting. They were going, \u201cThis is terrible\u201d; and my soul was finding delight in hearing those bad reports.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Because that makes us feel good about ourselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I had to sit down with a friend and just confess, \u201cThis is what\u2019s been going on with me.\u201d\u00a0 As much as my curiosity wanted to hear some of those things, I had to say, \u201cI just can't hear them anymore,\u201d because it was not healthy. It wasn\u2019t good for my own soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jerry, if a person struggles with gossip\u2014with their tongue flapping a little bit too much\u2014what should they do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> First of all, they have to acknowledge that this is a problem. So many people just gossip, and they\u2019re not aware that it\u2019s\u2014I mean, they just do it automatically. It\u2019s a characteristic of their life\u2014it\u2019s a habit pattern. They can gossip, I think, without even being aware of it. They really need somebody to call them on that\u2014to call attention to it and to say, \u201cThat\u2019s gossip.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope that I did this man\u2014that I referred to\u2014this writer\u2014a service by just pointing out to him that he was speaking evil of people unnecessarily. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt didn\u2019t add a thing to his book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, to that point, Jerry\u2014and I just want to underline that because I had a friend, who came to me and basically said: \u201cDennis\u201d\u2014and he didn\u2019t say it this bluntly, but I got the message\u2014\u201cDennis, you\u2019re complaining. You are simply griping, and grousing, and complaining about these circumstances that you\u2019re dealing with here. Quit bellyaching and deal with it.\u201d\u00a0 And he didn\u2019t say it\u2014but I kept hearing the rest of the sentence\u2014\u201c\u2026and respond to life as God brings it to you every day with faith in Him that God knows what He is doing because He\u2019s a good God. He\u2019s sifting everything that comes my way.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, we may not personally struggle with gossip, but we may have a relationship with a friend or a family member who has this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014as what Bob called\u2014besetting sin. We do them a favor if we go to them and say: \u201cYou know, I\u2019ve been listening to you. I think you just ought to maybe consider this\u2014maybe pray about this: \u2018Do you really, perhaps, enjoy passing on bad things about people and gossiping?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 At that point, leave it with them to consider. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s enough of that that takes place within the Christian community.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to ask you, though, because you referred to somebody saying, \u201cJoe and Sally\u2014did you hear that Joe and Sally are thinking about getting a divorce?\u201d\u00a0 Isn\u2019t there an appropriate context in which I would share that with a brother or a sister in Christ, and it\u2019s not gossip?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes, if we have a redemptive purpose in doing that. In other words, sometimes people can veil their gossip by saying, \u201cI just wanted to tell you this for prayer\u201d; but prayer hasn\u2019t happened. But I would say to those people: \u201cOkay, let\u2019s get down on our knees, right now, and pray about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIs my concern really about Joe and Sally?\u00a0 Am I pouring out my heart to God in grief over what\u2019s happening in their marriage, or do I just want to share bad things because it makes me feel good because I\u2019m not in that situation?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jerry, let\u2019s finish up talking, then, about the person who is struggling with gossip. You said, first of all, they need to come to grips that they may have a problem or do have a problem with it. They can do that on their own \/ maybe, someone confronts them. What do they do after they <em>know<\/em> they have a problem with it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> They have to confess it. Then, they have to take that sin to the cross and leave it at the cross\u2014that Jesus\u2019 blood has cleansed them from that. And then, come away\u2014the old Puritan, John Owen, said: \u201cEvery day, you face your sin. You take it to the cross, and you come away with Christ\u2019s righteousness.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s what we have to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, if the person is really convicted of their sin\u2014and they see that it\u2019s forgiven and that God accepts them as righteous in Christ\u2014then, they are going to say: \u201cGod, I don\u2019t ever want to do that anymore. Now, Holy Spirit, would you make me more sensitive to the occasions when I am about to gossip?\u201d\u00a0 Sometimes, a person will have to\u2014to use our metaphor\u2014bite her tongue or bite his tongue\u2014I\u2019ve had to do that. I\u2019m about to say something\u2014and I say, \u201cNo, I can\u2019t say that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> And so, I believe, if a person is really sincere in wanting the Holy Spirit to help them\u2014that He will. But I think it\u2019s good, also, to commit to memorization\u2014and this is where my Navigator background comes in\u2014key passages of Scripture that help. I would say, in this particular situation,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014Ephesians 4:29: \u201cLet no crooked speech come out of your mouth but only that which is helpful for building others up,\u201d\u2014that, along with the verse in Titus 3, \u201cSpeak evil of no one.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think another big one is moral pride. That is: \u201cWe\u2019re better than these people out here because we\u2019re not doing the big sins,\u201d or even\u2014\u201cWell, I don\u2019t gossip like he does,\u201d or something like that. We can begin to feel good about ourselves and fail to see that we have other issues. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother one is\u2014not only moral pride\u2014but also, I would call it doctrinal or theological pride. Everybody feels like his theology is the right one, and none of us have it all down straight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not that we need to be wishy-washy about our theological convictions, but we do need to hold those convictions in humility and treat people with different convictions with respect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to ask you about both of those. If we have moral pride, then, the challenge of that\u2014the problem with that\u2014is we\u2019re going to find ourselves alienated from the very people that God\u2019s called us to share good news with\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because, if we see ourselves as superior, they are going to know that we see ourselves as superior. It puts a division between us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember hearing Pastor Tim Keller at Redeemer Presbyterian Church, one time, talk about Christians being involved in the city. He said one of the reasons why Christians need to be involved in big cities is because we have the humility to say we can learn from the city. When he said that, I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I can learn from the city.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight there, I was caught with, \u201cOh my, I have a heart of moral superiority \/ spiritual superiority.\u201d\u00a0 I was caught up in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do think that, as evangelicals, we tend to see ourselves as morally and spiritually superior to those around us\u2014rather than seeing ourselves as sinners in need of the grace of God, just like those among whom we co-labor; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Exactly, yes. We can learn from everyone. I mean, <em>nobody<\/em> has it all down pat.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, there\u2019s a book out called <em>Unchristian<\/em>, which is a reflection of attitudes about this generation of 20, 30\u2014maybe early 40s\u2014those young adults who are in this culture and their opinions of Christians. What I think we\u2019re talking about here is touching on what they talked about in the book, and that is that there is a whole generation of young people today that want to see an authentic life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s as you refer to, Jerry, of humility and a right evaluation of who we are\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that we don\u2019t have it all together\u2014that we do have socks hanging out of the suitcase and our lives aren\u2019t perfect. It\u2019s not that we have an answer for everybody\u2019s problem\u2014but that we want to engage a generation that needs Christ \/ needs the Scriptures more than\u2014well, they need it as much as any generation has ever needed it\u2014but, if we don\u2019t have that authenticity, they are not going to be able to hear us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. And, you know, Dennis, the scary thing about some of the statistics in that book\u2014and I\u2019ve read most of the book \/ I kind of read through it\u2014but 85 percent of that age group, outside of the church, consider us hypocritical and judgmental.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> And you would expect that; but the scary thing is\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014about 50 percent of the people, within the church, think the same thing. They see us\u2014I mean, they know us\u2014and they say we\u2019re hypocritical \/ we\u2019re judgmental\u2014we are not authentic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And most of us hear that; and we go: \u201cWell, no!\u00a0 No, we\u2019re not.\u201d\u00a0 And, you know, if enough people start saying, \u201cWell, maybe you are,\u201d maybe you ought to stop and say, \u201cMaybe I am.\u201d\u00a0 Instead of just being defensive about it, maybe, we ought to be aware; and maybe there is something to their criticism.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are two aspects of hypocrisy that I just want to mention here. One is that any follower of Jesus Christ is going to be a hypocrite\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because we\u2019re following the God-Man, the Perfect One, the One who never had any guile, who responded perfectly in every circumstance; and, yes, at that point, I follow Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t do it perfectly. Therefore, I am a hypocrite. But that\u2019s not what rubs people the wrong way in this culture. It\u2019s when we say we follow Him and we make ourselves out to be that perfect person\u2014as though we don\u2019t have any besetting sins, or things that we\u2019re struggling with, and haven\u2019t really talked about something we\u2019ve confessed to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, a key question for all of us is: \u201cWhen was the last time you just confessed a sin?\u201d\u2014just went to God and said: \u201cFather, forgive me for that attitude. Forgive me for the gossip. Forgive me for my anger\/my frustration. I was not acknowledging You as being in charge of everything that\u2019s happening around my life.\u201d\u00a0 And then, be willing to share that, from an authentic standpoint, of how you are in the process of following Christ in your imperfection and not giving up because I think that\u2019s the hope this generation needs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014is that we\u2019re all a bunch of broken people in need of a Savior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jerry, I was in a church, not long ago, where a part of their practice is a corporate confession of sin. In this particular church, as they corporately confessed their sin, they said, \u201cFather, we have sinned against You in thought, and in word, and in deed by things we have done and by things we've left undone.\u201d\u00a0 I thought: \u201cThat's a pretty good confession of sin. I usually think about deeds\u2014things I\u2019ve done that were bad\u2014but there are things I have not done that are sinful. There are things I\u2019ve <em>thought<\/em> that are sinful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe usually let ourselves off the hook on that kind of stuff, and that\u2019s a part of what you're trying to say in <em>Respectable Sins<\/em>. It\u2019s time to quit letting ourselves off the hook for things that God says we should be on the hook for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Right. Yes, and if we really believe the gospel\u2014if we really believe that Christ died for our sins\u2014then, we can be honest\u2014we can face up to those sins. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s why I would say the most important chapter in this book is the fourth chapter on the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And just to end this message, practically, I want to end it the way we started it\u2014putting you on the spot. I am kind of liking this, Jerry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay. I thought you said you weren\u2019t going to do this. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You sinned with your tongue!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did I say that?\u00a0 I take it back!\u00a0 I\u2019m going to do it again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is my question for you, Jerry\u2014because I think, to the point of authenticity\u2014people would look at you: You\u2019ve walked with Christ for six decades. You\u2019ve been in ministry with Navigators for more than 53 years. You\u2019ve written all these great books. Maybe, your theology isn\u2019t airtight, but you don\u2019t have many socks hanging out of the suitcase\u2014it doesn\u2019t seem. What I want you to share with them is in your relationship with your wife Jane. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere do you see all this colliding and where do you have to practice this same kind of humility, and authenticity, and faith in your relationship with her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> I would say in two areas that stand out to me. First of all is selfishness. You know, I work at home; and she\u2019s there\u2014and so, I\u2019m available. I think: \u201cThese are office hours \/ these are work hours. You shouldn\u2019t intrude on me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you call Barbara before you said that?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Okay, what\u2019s the second one?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Okay, the second one is patience. My wife has\u2014well, I like to live life with a margin, just in every area. I like to have a few dollars in the bank account. I like to leave for the airport in plenty of time that I don\u2019t have to rush.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re saying Jane kind of likes a little adventure around some of these things?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> She has the incredible ability to time it just right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was so charitably said. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> I mean\u2014it really does. We\u2019ve never missed a flight or anything like that. Well\u2014like yesterday morning\u2014she\u2019s going to another city while I am here. And so, I was taking her. I thought, \u201cJane\u2014somebody else.\u201d She was going to ride with somebody else to the airport. They wanted her at their house by 6:30. It\u2019s 6:25 and I\u2019m kind of\u2014but we get there and\u2014guess what?\u00a0 We\u2019re the first one. I mean, even the host, who is going to drive us, is not ready yet!\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a good sport to take two tough questions at the beginning and the end of the broadcast. Thanks, Jerry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and I think, too, you just modeled for us what humility ought to look like and how all of us have these areas in our lives where we just kind of dust them away and say, \u201cThat\u2019s not that big a deal\u2014just how I am.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have this tendency to want to excuse these, so called, respectable sins. I think what you\u2019ve demonstrated for us here is how we have to remain vigilant in our battle with the issue of indwelling, remaining sin in our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope our listeners will get a copy of your book. It\u2019s called <em>Respectable Sins<\/em>. I just talked to somebody, recently, who said they got this book down again from their bookshelf and reread it. I thought, \u201cWell, you\u2019re a glutton for punishment to go back through this a second time!\u201d but they were just talking about\u2014it\u2019s convicting\u2014but it\u2019s also helpful to remind us of these areas that we do tend to minimize or to excuse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe title of the book, again, is <em>Respectable Sins<\/em> by Jerry Bridges. It\u2019s a book that we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper left-hand corner that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d That\u2019ll take you right to where you can order a copy of Jerry\u2019s book from us, online. Or you can call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d Ask about the book, <em>Respectable Sins<\/em>. We\u2019ll make arrangements to get a copy sent to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we have some folks we need to thank. 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We will send you a welcome kit and let you know about resources, throughout the year, that we\u2019ll make available to you, as a Legacy Partner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about joining the Legacy Partner team when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and you click the link in the upper right-hand corner that says, \u201cI CARE.\u201d\u00a0 The information is available right there. Or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and say, \u201cI\u2019d like to know more about becoming a Legacy Partner.\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ll answer any questions you have and give you the details. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, again, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who have already agreed to pitch in regularly to help us out, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We appreciate your support in helping underwrite the cost of producing and syndicating this daily radio program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow. Jerry Bridges will be here with us again. We\u2019re going to talk more about respectable sins, including the sin of intemperance. I\u2019m not talking about drinking\u2014although that could be an issue of intemperance\u2014but we\u2019re talking about lacking self-control in a variety of areas. We\u2019ll talk about that respectable sin tomorrow. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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