{"id":303309,"date":"2014-12-16T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-12-16T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/i-never-meant-to-be-a-mother\/"},"modified":"2014-12-16T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-12-16T17:00:00","slug":"i-never-meant-to-be-a-mother","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/i-never-meant-to-be-a-mother\/","title":{"rendered":"I Never Meant to Be a Mother"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Motherhood is delightful and difficult, even for the most seasoned of mothers. 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This file is auto-generated *\/\n!function(d,l){\"use strict\";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&\"undefined\"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!\/[^a-zA-Z0-9]\/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret=\"'+t.secret+'\"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret=\"'+t.secret+'\"]'),c=new RegExp(\"^https?:$\",\"i\"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display=\"none\";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute(\"style\"),\"height\"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):\"link\"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute(\"src\")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener(\"message\",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener(\"DOMContentLoaded\",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll(\"iframe.wp-embedded-content\"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute(\"data-secret\"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+=\"#?secret=\"+t,e.setAttribute(\"data-secret\",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:\"ready\",secret:t},\"*\")},!1)))}(window,document);\n\/\/# sourceURL=https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-includes\/js\/wp-embed.min.js\n<\/script>\n"},"spectra_custom_meta":{"_wp_page_template":["default"],"transcript_url":["https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-12-16.pdf"],"audio_file":["https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-12-16.mp3"],"transcript_content":["<strong>Bob: <\/strong>As a young teenager, Katie Davis took a giant step of faith when she moved to Africa to care for the needs of orphans. She knew Jesus had called her there, but she didn\u2019t realize all that call would mean for her life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>After about four months, I would sit in my bed and just cry\u2014just go, \u201cOh, what did I do?\u201d\u2014because, at that point, I <em>knew<\/em> Jesus had wrecked my life. There wasn\u2019t ever going to be a way that I could go back to my life that was normal\u2014I wouldn\u2019t be able to do it. I wouldn\u2019t be able to live that way anymore, and I knew that I wouldn\u2019t\u2014but I kind of wanted to! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, December 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll hear more from Katie Davis today about how Jesus wrecked her life in a good way. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You remember, Dennis, that our daughter, Amy, spent a couple of years after college in Southeast Asia. She called us during her senior year and said, \u201cI\u2019m thinking I want to spend time in Southeast Asia after college.\u201d We, as parents, kind of wrestled with that decision. And ultimately\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you immediately applaud that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We did not <em>immediately <\/em>embrace that\u2014took a little processing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Mary Ann had a little bit of a problem with it; maybe?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. We just\u2014both of us\u2014had to kind of pray our way through that. What she never did\u2014she never called us in the middle of her time over there and said, \u201cI\u2019ve decided to become a mother.\u201d\u00a0 That would have been a whole new level of \u201cWhat is going on in the life of our daughter?\u201d\u2014if she had done that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we have a young lady\u2014who, at the age of\u2014well, Katie, how old were you when you decided to become a mom?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Nineteen was when I fostered my first little girls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay\u2014decided to become a mom when she was 19 years of age. Her name is Katie Davis. She has written a book called <em>Kisses from Katie<\/em>. She serves Jesus Christ in Uganda, caring for, now, 13 children\u2014count them\u2014that she is in the process of becoming their mother; right?\u2014adopting them. And she is the director of a ministry called Amazima\u2014is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did I get it right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>You got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to ask you to read the first two paragraphs of your book because I think this kind of sets apart how your life is making a difference in the lives of a lot of children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never meant to be a mother. I mean, I guess I did\u2014not right now though\u2014not before I was married, not when I was 19, not to so, so\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tmany little people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThankfully, God\u2019s plans did not seem to be much affected by my own. I never meant to live in Uganda\u2014a dot on the map in East Africa on the opposite side of the planet from my family and all that is comfortable and familiar. Thankfully, God\u2019s plans also happened to be much better than my own. You see, Jesus wrecked my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, He really wrecked it! [Laughter] He called you to give up an easy-going life as a teenager in Nashville, Tennessee\u2014wrecked your parents\u2019 lives, like Bob was talking about with his daughter going overseas. And you went there for one year. Well, you ended up staying. You encountered a number of little girls, but there was one who really grabbed your heart. It was the first little girl that you decided to adopt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tExplain the story because this really is an interesting story how you came about meeting her\u2014it really came about through her sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. So, I was living at the orphanage\u2014had been working there for a while \/ had been teaching there for a while\u2014and had also started to see a lot of the children in my class would come to school a little bit, and then, would not come to school for a while. I started asking, \u201cWhy are these children in and out of school all the time?\u201d\u00a0 The pastor, who ran the school, said, \u201cWell, they can\u2019t always pay for their school fees.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought: \u201cOh, my goodness. That\u2019s terrible.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know that the school was so expensive, and it\u2019s not expensive by our standard at all. I also recognized, during my time there, that a lot of the children who were living in the orphanage had living family members who would come and visit\u2014who would see them \/ who seemed to love and care about them\u2014but yet, the children lived in this institution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey lived there so that they could go to school, and so that they could get their medical care, and the food that they needed, and things like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, I and my translator had started a small outreach\u2014just with ten people to try to keep a couple of these children going to school but not living in the orphanage\u2014we were paying for them to go to school, but they were staying with their families. I had met Agnes, and Mary, and Scovia because they were children that were on our list of maybe these children would be eligible to stay living their grandmother. Their grandmother really didn\u2019t know what to do with them\u2014was thinking about putting them in the orphanage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSeveral weeks later, Oliver called me and said: \u201cOh, my goodness. We have to go visit this little girl. There\u2019s been a storm. Her grandmother\u2019s house has collapsed on her. She\u2019s in the hospital. We\u2019ve got to go visit her in the hospital.\u201d We went to visit Agnes, and she had been smashed under this brick wall in the storm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe houses are just made of these mud bricks. She was just lying there\u2014tiny in this hospital bed\u2014and her collar bone was broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we went to the hospital, they said, \u201cWell, we can\u2019t treat her.\u201d\u00a0 I said: \u201cWhy can\u2019t you treat her?\u00a0 Why is she just lying in this bed?\u201d\u00a0 They said: \u201cWell, there\u2019s no one here to pay for her medical treatment. So, unless you can pay for your medical treatment, you can\u2019t get any. So, she\u2019s just here, taking up space.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cI\u2019ll pay for her medical treatment.\u201d\u00a0 You know, it\u2019s the grand total of like $30 or $40 dollars, which for her extended family members, that $30\/$40 would have just wiped out their money for the year\u2014really. I said: \u201cWell, tell them I\u2019ll pay. Whatever it is, do what they need to do.\u201d\u00a0 So, it started with just paying for Agnes\u2019s medical treatment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOliver said, \u201cWell, she has two sisters.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, Oliver, you have to go get them.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019d started renting a little house outside of the orphanage because, in order to have this outreach registered as a ministry, we needed an office space. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I had this little teeny house that we were renting. I said, \u201cYou know, they can just\u2014they can spend the night at my house.\u201d\u00a0 Their grandmother was very, very ill and actually ended up passing away a couple of months later. She said, \u201cYes, that would be great if they could spend the night at your house while we figure out what\u2019s going to happen.\u201d\u00a0 So, they spent the night with me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe would go and visit Agnes in the hospital all the time and make sure she was okay. Then, Agnes was discharged from the hospital. We said, \u201cWell, now, where do they go?\u201d\u00a0 She couldn\u2019t really walk\u2014she had just all this bruising\u2014and it was very difficult for her to walk. Her collar bone was broken\u2014so, she just really needed to lay in bed all the time. I said, \u201cWell, of course, she can come and stay with us while we figure out what we\u2019re going to do with these little girls,\u201d\u2014and really, kind of felt like the Lord started to impress upon me, \u201cThis is your family.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember one morning\u2014I was just praying through this: \u201cGod, where do they go?\u00a0 Their grandmother is so sick, and I don\u2019t really know if they are going to be able to move back in with her. There aren\u2019t other relatives that will take care of them.\u201d Scovia, who was five at the time, walked into my room. She said, \u201cMommy, can I call you, \u2018Mommy?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 And I remember I just\u2014I mean, I had just been praying, \u201cLord, would You\u2014would You show me\u2014would You show me what to do?\u201d\u2014right?\u00a0 And He said, \u201cSure, I will show you.\u201d\u00a0 So, Scovia came in, and she did\u2014she called me, \u201cMommy.\u201d\u00a0 And I remember, just in my heart\u2014just knowing, \u201cWell, that was the answer to that!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, wait. I\u2019ve got to know about the phone conversation you had with your mom and dad when you said, \u201cGuess what happened when I was praying this morning.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>You know, I don\u2019t even remember the conversation. I\u2019m sure it was tentative because I know they were like ready for me to come home from my year in Uganda and have this very normal life. So, this was changing things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That must have been like a bomb\u2014I mean, they are expecting you to come home\u2014and you go, \u201cHey\u2026.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u201cI think\u2026\u201d\u2014yes\u2014\u201cI think I\u2019m leaning toward foster care\u2014that will lead toward adoption\u2014that will lead toward permanent family and a permanent residence here.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI struggled. I think we all run into this, at some point, where we think maybe we can live in both worlds; right?\u00a0 \u201cMaybe, we can do what Jesus is asking us to do and still have all our stuff that we don\u2019t want to give up,\u201d\u2014whatever that is\u2014whether that\u2019s the dream of college, or whether that\u2019s material things, or whether that\u2019s a relationship that we\u2019re not quite ready to walk away from yet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think all of us, at some point, go through the struggle of \u201cWhat is it that I really have to give up to be all in?\u201d\u00a0 And so\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and your year in Uganda had not been just one continuous picnic. I mean, you had been lonely, and you had\u2014I\u2019m sure you had to get used to the fact that, when you were hungry for ice cream, you couldn\u2019t just hop in the car and drive down to the ice cream place and get some ice cream; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Right. I think it is a good thing that I am so stubborn, but it\u2019s not always a good thing\u2014sometimes, it\u2019s a very bad thing. But I think I would have\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m just looking at your friends in the studio there. There are all nodding their heads at that, by the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>They know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I would have come home; but I didn\u2019t want to hear the people who said, \u201cI told you so\u2014little rich white girl from Brentwood.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, your stubbornness kept you from going back?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. I wasn\u2019t going to come back here and hear people say, \u201cI knew that you couldn\u2019t live in Africa!\u201d\u00a0 So, there were days when I was <em>so lonely<\/em>. I mean, I lived in a room that was not a whole lot bigger than this table that we are sitting at. My bed was a single bed\u2014so, think of the size of a single bed. In order to shut the door to my room, I had to have my feet on my bed. If my feet were on the side of the bed, there wasn\u2019t room for the door to shut. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the room was not much bigger than my bed, and that was <em>very<\/em> different from the lifestyle that I was accustomed to. There were times\u2014I mean, I loved it\u2014I loved it\u2014I loved it. And my heart was there, but it was also very different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You said you slept under a mosquito net, but that didn\u2019t keep the lizards\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Eww. Yuck!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and the ants out of your bed. And you had a rat\u2014you said was the size of a kitten. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes\u2014big rat. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Where did he live?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Well, he lived in the bathroom. I just got in the habit of not going to the bathroom at night. I remember the first night that I went to the bathroom, and he ran by. I thought: \u201cOkay, note to self: \u2018Go to the bathroom before bed. Don\u2019t go to the bathroom again!\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, I think you must be really, really stubborn because just what you\u2019re describing here I can see somebody going: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m glad I came and spent my year here, and did the work, and invested. A part of my heart will always be here, but I\u2019m ready for a little Nashville comfort. I\u2019m ready for a soft bed, and no rats, and ice cream when I want it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. After about four months, I would sit in my bed and just cry\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014just go, \u201cOh, what did I do?\u201d\u2014because, at that point, I <em>knew<\/em> my heart was stuck. I mean, there wasn\u2019t ever going to be a way\u2014I have read it. Jesus had wrecked my life. There wasn\u2019t ever going to be a way that I could go back to my life that was normal and do it\u2014I wouldn\u2019t be able to do it. I wouldn\u2019t be able to live that way anymore, and I <em>knew<\/em> that I wouldn\u2019t\u2014but I kind of wanted to! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You went on to adopt two more girls\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014a few months later. And\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, were Mom and Dad\u2014did they\u2014they must have gotten to the point where it was like, \u201cOkay,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cWhat\u2019s next?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cwe\u2019re with you on this,\u201d\u2014right?\u2014when you said that you were going to adopt these three. They kind of came around and said, \u201cIt\u2019s your life\u201d; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Kind of. I mean, they always asked good questions that were important. You know in the way that a parent does of\u2014\u201cNow, are you sure?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Have you thought about this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u201cbecause you know that that means\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cThis is this, this, this, and this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t sure, but I thought I knew a lot. So, I said: \u201cYes, I\u2019m sure. I\u2019ve thought this through!\u201d [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>By the age of 19, you were a mother of six. You\u2019d taken on some responsibilities\u2014so much so you needed to go raise some money for your work among orphans\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014in Uganda. And you were getting ready to leave. Agnes\u2014I assume it\u2019s the same one who was almost crushed\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014by the wall that fell in on her?\u00a0 Agnes came to you and told you, you couldn\u2019t leave. You want to share that story with our listeners?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. Agnes had just kind of finally adjusted, after a few months to life with a mom\u2014life with a home \/ life with a family. As I shared a little bit earlier, I had started what started as a very small ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just said: \u201cThese kids shouldn\u2019t have to live at the orphanage if they have family members who want to take care of them. We have to figure out a way that we can pay for their schooling, and pay for their food, and pay for their medical care, and they can live with their biological family\u2014whether that\u2019s a mom, or a dad, or an aunt, or an uncle, or a grandparent.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we had grown from 10 children, who were being\u2014what we called sponsored to stay in their families\u2014to we had about 40 now. And then, 40 turned into about 100. So, we had 100 children who were signed up to go to school. We got through the first term of the school okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, it was about time for second term. It was like: \u201cOh, we don\u2019t quite have enough money to send these children back for second term. We need to do that. We\u2019ve committed to saying: \u2018You get to go to school and stay with your family. Your family does not have to give you up or put you in an institution so that you can have these basic needs met.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I knew I had to go back to the States and do some fundraising. Agnes just begged and pleaded: \u201cNo, you can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go.\u201d\u00a0 I must have said something like, \u201cWell, sweetie, someone has to raise the money so that we can continue to eat.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that was my comment to her. So, she ran outside, and she got some grass. She said, \u201cI will eat grass, and you do not go!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was her way of trying to get you to stay there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She didn\u2019t want you to leave. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>No. So, then, I knew I was like really stuck. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And 100 grew to\u2014what size now?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>We have 721 children who are currently sponsored by Amazima. That means that their school fees are paid for \/ they\u2019re provided with meals. At school, we pay for them to have lunch. Then, we send them home with some food so that they can have dinner for their families. They\u2019re provided with any medical care that they need. This enables them to live with their family members. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of them are still children who have been orphaned\u2014a lot by HIV and AIDS. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you did end up coming back to the States to raise some money. While you were back here, your friend, who evidently must have been helping you run the village, ended up taking another child in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You want to tell our listeners about your first conversation with a little girl named Joyce?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. So, Christine, a <em>great<\/em> friend of mine\u2014she\u2019s still on our staff. She had moved into our house and was helping with just day-to-day stuff. She\u2019s a year younger than I am\u2014and helped me out with the girls. I had left her and another friend there at our home with my six girls and had gone home to do some fundraising. While I was gone\u2014received a phone call from her\u2014she said: \u201cThere is this little girl. She\u2019s really in need of a place to go. She doesn\u2019t have anyone caring for her at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWould it be okay if she came to live with us?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>At this point, you are kind of doing, \u201cOh, six\/seven\u2014I mean, I\u2019ve kind of built my life around this anyway. She doesn\u2019t have anywhere to go\u2014of course!\u00a0 Of course, she can come and stay, and we\u2019ll figure out if it\u2019s permanent, or if it\u2019s transitory, or what that looks like.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I remember she called me. She said, \u201cHello, Mommy.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m sure she had heard the other girls in our house talking about me and was like: \u201cOh, there is this lady\u2014her name is Mommy. She\u2019ll come back, and she feeds us,\u201d\u2014you know, whatever. She said, \u201cHello, Mommy, thank you for food today.\u201d\u00a0 And I just remember how that struck me\u2014you know, just sitting on this side of things in America, and having just probably eaten lunch or whatever, going, \u201cOh, my goodness\u2014\u2018Thank you for food today,\u2019 like this is what we\u2019re looking at. This is what we are dealing with\u2014people who don\u2019t even always have the guarantee of food every day.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just remember how <em>excited<\/em> I was to get home and to meet her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Speaking of food today, how many children are estimated to be on the streets\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, my goodness\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014in Uganda?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014we would have to look it up. There are so many. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tens of thousands\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014who don\u2019t have food to eat like Joyce thanked you for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let alone someone to call, \u201cMommy.\u201d\u00a0 And that\u2019s what led you, ultimately, to say, \u201cYes,\u201d to not only the first six\/seven, but now\u2014how many children are in your family or are in the process of coming into your family, as a 25-year-old young lady?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Thirteen\u2014I have thirteen foster daughters\u2014all of whom are kind of at different processes in the paperwork of being finally legally adopted; but in my heart, I mean, are all the way adopted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they are my children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a great picture, Bob, of a young lady who exhorts all of us to step out in faith\u2014looking at the needs that surround us\u2014and follow God\u2019s call and be obedient to that\u2014and just as Katie has shared, going all in\u2014not doing it halfway \/ part way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just wondering if you ever say, \u201cNo\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I\u2019m learning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you\u2019re pretty stubborn. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think there is a stubborn streak necessary to get to where Katie has gotten. I want to encourage our listeners to get a copy of the book that she\u2019s written called <em>Kisses from Katie: A Story of Relentless Love and Redemption<\/em>. We\u2019ve got the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy. Again, the title of the book, <em>Kisses from Katie<\/em>; and the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d if you\u2019d like to request a copy of the book. 1-800-FL-TODAY is the number to call, and we\u2019ll send a copy of Katie\u2019s book out to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, what we\u2019ve talked about here today, Bob, is not unusual for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We are all about giving voice to those who have none\u2014the orphan. And our listeners\u2014anybody who listens to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> knows that we have consistently championed the orphan before the Christian community, believing that the church really has the capability of addressing issues around adoption, foster care, and orphans as no other organization in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, FamilyLife helped start the original meeting that ultimately became the Christian Alliance for Orphans, which we started back 10 years ago\u2014had 35 folks at the first meeting, here at FamilyLife. And this year, we had almost 3,000\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014at Willow Creek, with people from 35 countries showing up. So, we are about championing those who have no voice\u2014orphans. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd there are a lot of great stories, but one I have to tell. A woman told me she was listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014we were talking about the orphan\u2014we were taking her near the needs of the orphan. She said, \u201cI was running an errand one night, listening to your broadcast.\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cI had to stay in the Wal-Mart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> parking lot and finish listening to the broadcast. By the time I finished listening,\u201d she said, \u201cI realized God was calling us to adopt.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I just want to turn to the listener, at this point, and say, \u201cIf we are going to stand by the orphan\u2014if we are going to stand alongside you and your marriage \/ your family and encourage you to take steps of faith as well\u2014then, right now, would be the time to make a generous gift to FamilyLife.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a great matching opportunity that we need to take full advantage of. And Bob, we need more listeners to step up and say, \u201cI stand with you guys because you stand alongside me, and my marriage, and family, giving us practical biblical help and hope for my marriage and family.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have had some friends of the ministry who have agreed that they will match every donation we receive, between now and the end of the month, on a dollar-for-dollar basis, up to a total of $2,000,000. So, you call today and make a $20 donation\u2014it\u2019s automatically a $40 donation. Or you make a $100 donation\u2014it\u2019s a $200 donation. We\u2019re asking you to be as generous as you can be so that we can take full advantage of this matching gift, and we hope you will do it today. Hope you\u2019ll go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, where it says, \u201cI Care.\u201d Make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can make a donation over the phone, and it counts if you mail your donation to us\u2014our mailing address is: Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd our zip code is 72223. We do hope to hear from you. I want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for your financial support of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to encourage you to join us again tomorrow. Katie Davis will be back. We\u2019ll talk more about how God is using her to care for the needs of orphans in Africa. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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What she never did\u2014she never called us in the middle of her time over there and said, \u201cI\u2019ve decided to become a mother.\u201d\u00a0 That would have been a whole new level of \u201cWhat is going on in the life of our daughter?\u201d\u2014if she had done that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we have a young lady\u2014who, at the age of\u2014well, Katie, how old were you when you decided to become a mom?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Nineteen was when I fostered my first little girls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay\u2014decided to become a mom when she was 19 years of age. Her name is Katie Davis. She has written a book called <em>Kisses from Katie<\/em>. She serves Jesus Christ in Uganda, caring for, now, 13 children\u2014count them\u2014that she is in the process of becoming their mother; right?\u2014adopting them. And she is the director of a ministry called Amazima\u2014is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did I get it right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>You got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to ask you to read the first two paragraphs of your book because I think this kind of sets apart how your life is making a difference in the lives of a lot of children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never meant to be a mother. I mean, I guess I did\u2014not right now though\u2014not before I was married, not when I was 19, not to so, so\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tmany little people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThankfully, God\u2019s plans did not seem to be much affected by my own. I never meant to live in Uganda\u2014a dot on the map in East Africa on the opposite side of the planet from my family and all that is comfortable and familiar. Thankfully, God\u2019s plans also happened to be much better than my own. You see, Jesus wrecked my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, He really wrecked it! [Laughter] He called you to give up an easy-going life as a teenager in Nashville, Tennessee\u2014wrecked your parents\u2019 lives, like Bob was talking about with his daughter going overseas. And you went there for one year. Well, you ended up staying. You encountered a number of little girls, but there was one who really grabbed your heart. It was the first little girl that you decided to adopt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tExplain the story because this really is an interesting story how you came about meeting her\u2014it really came about through her sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. So, I was living at the orphanage\u2014had been working there for a while \/ had been teaching there for a while\u2014and had also started to see a lot of the children in my class would come to school a little bit, and then, would not come to school for a while. I started asking, \u201cWhy are these children in and out of school all the time?\u201d\u00a0 The pastor, who ran the school, said, \u201cWell, they can\u2019t always pay for their school fees.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thought: \u201cOh, my goodness. That\u2019s terrible.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know that the school was so expensive, and it\u2019s not expensive by our standard at all. I also recognized, during my time there, that a lot of the children who were living in the orphanage had living family members who would come and visit\u2014who would see them \/ who seemed to love and care about them\u2014but yet, the children lived in this institution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey lived there so that they could go to school, and so that they could get their medical care, and the food that they needed, and things like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, I and my translator had started a small outreach\u2014just with ten people to try to keep a couple of these children going to school but not living in the orphanage\u2014we were paying for them to go to school, but they were staying with their families. I had met Agnes, and Mary, and Scovia because they were children that were on our list of maybe these children would be eligible to stay living their grandmother. Their grandmother really didn\u2019t know what to do with them\u2014was thinking about putting them in the orphanage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSeveral weeks later, Oliver called me and said: \u201cOh, my goodness. We have to go visit this little girl. There\u2019s been a storm. Her grandmother\u2019s house has collapsed on her. She\u2019s in the hospital. We\u2019ve got to go visit her in the hospital.\u201d We went to visit Agnes, and she had been smashed under this brick wall in the storm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe houses are just made of these mud bricks. She was just lying there\u2014tiny in this hospital bed\u2014and her collar bone was broken. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we went to the hospital, they said, \u201cWell, we can\u2019t treat her.\u201d\u00a0 I said: \u201cWhy can\u2019t you treat her?\u00a0 Why is she just lying in this bed?\u201d\u00a0 They said: \u201cWell, there\u2019s no one here to pay for her medical treatment. So, unless you can pay for your medical treatment, you can\u2019t get any. So, she\u2019s just here, taking up space.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cI\u2019ll pay for her medical treatment.\u201d\u00a0 You know, it\u2019s the grand total of like $30 or $40 dollars, which for her extended family members, that $30\/$40 would have just wiped out their money for the year\u2014really. I said: \u201cWell, tell them I\u2019ll pay. Whatever it is, do what they need to do.\u201d\u00a0 So, it started with just paying for Agnes\u2019s medical treatment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOliver said, \u201cWell, she has two sisters.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, Oliver, you have to go get them.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019d started renting a little house outside of the orphanage because, in order to have this outreach registered as a ministry, we needed an office space. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I had this little teeny house that we were renting. I said, \u201cYou know, they can just\u2014they can spend the night at my house.\u201d\u00a0 Their grandmother was very, very ill and actually ended up passing away a couple of months later. She said, \u201cYes, that would be great if they could spend the night at your house while we figure out what\u2019s going to happen.\u201d\u00a0 So, they spent the night with me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe would go and visit Agnes in the hospital all the time and make sure she was okay. Then, Agnes was discharged from the hospital. We said, \u201cWell, now, where do they go?\u201d\u00a0 She couldn\u2019t really walk\u2014she had just all this bruising\u2014and it was very difficult for her to walk. Her collar bone was broken\u2014so, she just really needed to lay in bed all the time. I said, \u201cWell, of course, she can come and stay with us while we figure out what we\u2019re going to do with these little girls,\u201d\u2014and really, kind of felt like the Lord started to impress upon me, \u201cThis is your family.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember one morning\u2014I was just praying through this: \u201cGod, where do they go?\u00a0 Their grandmother is so sick, and I don\u2019t really know if they are going to be able to move back in with her. There aren\u2019t other relatives that will take care of them.\u201d Scovia, who was five at the time, walked into my room. She said, \u201cMommy, can I call you, \u2018Mommy?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 And I remember I just\u2014I mean, I had just been praying, \u201cLord, would You\u2014would You show me\u2014would You show me what to do?\u201d\u2014right?\u00a0 And He said, \u201cSure, I will show you.\u201d\u00a0 So, Scovia came in, and she did\u2014she called me, \u201cMommy.\u201d\u00a0 And I remember, just in my heart\u2014just knowing, \u201cWell, that was the answer to that!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, wait. I\u2019ve got to know about the phone conversation you had with your mom and dad when you said, \u201cGuess what happened when I was praying this morning.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>You know, I don\u2019t even remember the conversation. I\u2019m sure it was tentative because I know they were like ready for me to come home from my year in Uganda and have this very normal life. So, this was changing things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That must have been like a bomb\u2014I mean, they are expecting you to come home\u2014and you go, \u201cHey\u2026.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u201cI think\u2026\u201d\u2014yes\u2014\u201cI think I\u2019m leaning toward foster care\u2014that will lead toward adoption\u2014that will lead toward permanent family and a permanent residence here.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI struggled. I think we all run into this, at some point, where we think maybe we can live in both worlds; right?\u00a0 \u201cMaybe, we can do what Jesus is asking us to do and still have all our stuff that we don\u2019t want to give up,\u201d\u2014whatever that is\u2014whether that\u2019s the dream of college, or whether that\u2019s material things, or whether that\u2019s a relationship that we\u2019re not quite ready to walk away from yet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think all of us, at some point, go through the struggle of \u201cWhat is it that I really have to give up to be all in?\u201d\u00a0 And so\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and your year in Uganda had not been just one continuous picnic. I mean, you had been lonely, and you had\u2014I\u2019m sure you had to get used to the fact that, when you were hungry for ice cream, you couldn\u2019t just hop in the car and drive down to the ice cream place and get some ice cream; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Right. I think it is a good thing that I am so stubborn, but it\u2019s not always a good thing\u2014sometimes, it\u2019s a very bad thing. But I think I would have\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m just looking at your friends in the studio there. There are all nodding their heads at that, by the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>They know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I would have come home; but I didn\u2019t want to hear the people who said, \u201cI told you so\u2014little rich white girl from Brentwood.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, your stubbornness kept you from going back?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. I wasn\u2019t going to come back here and hear people say, \u201cI knew that you couldn\u2019t live in Africa!\u201d\u00a0 So, there were days when I was <em>so lonely<\/em>. I mean, I lived in a room that was not a whole lot bigger than this table that we are sitting at. My bed was a single bed\u2014so, think of the size of a single bed. In order to shut the door to my room, I had to have my feet on my bed. If my feet were on the side of the bed, there wasn\u2019t room for the door to shut. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the room was not much bigger than my bed, and that was <em>very<\/em> different from the lifestyle that I was accustomed to. There were times\u2014I mean, I loved it\u2014I loved it\u2014I loved it. And my heart was there, but it was also very different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You said you slept under a mosquito net, but that didn\u2019t keep the lizards\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Eww. Yuck!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and the ants out of your bed. And you had a rat\u2014you said was the size of a kitten. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes\u2014big rat. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Where did he live?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Well, he lived in the bathroom. I just got in the habit of not going to the bathroom at night. I remember the first night that I went to the bathroom, and he ran by. I thought: \u201cOkay, note to self: \u2018Go to the bathroom before bed. Don\u2019t go to the bathroom again!\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, I think you must be really, really stubborn because just what you\u2019re describing here I can see somebody going: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m glad I came and spent my year here, and did the work, and invested. A part of my heart will always be here, but I\u2019m ready for a little Nashville comfort. I\u2019m ready for a soft bed, and no rats, and ice cream when I want it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, yes. After about four months, I would sit in my bed and just cry\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014just go, \u201cOh, what did I do?\u201d\u2014because, at that point, I <em>knew<\/em> my heart was stuck. I mean, there wasn\u2019t ever going to be a way\u2014I have read it. Jesus had wrecked my life. There wasn\u2019t ever going to be a way that I could go back to my life that was normal and do it\u2014I wouldn\u2019t be able to do it. I wouldn\u2019t be able to live that way anymore, and I <em>knew<\/em> that I wouldn\u2019t\u2014but I kind of wanted to! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You went on to adopt two more girls\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014a few months later. And\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, were Mom and Dad\u2014did they\u2014they must have gotten to the point where it was like, \u201cOkay,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cWhat\u2019s next?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cwe\u2019re with you on this,\u201d\u2014right?\u2014when you said that you were going to adopt these three. They kind of came around and said, \u201cIt\u2019s your life\u201d; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Kind of. I mean, they always asked good questions that were important. You know in the way that a parent does of\u2014\u201cNow, are you sure?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Have you thought about this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u201cbecause you know that that means\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cThis is this, this, this, and this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t sure, but I thought I knew a lot. So, I said: \u201cYes, I\u2019m sure. I\u2019ve thought this through!\u201d [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>By the age of 19, you were a mother of six. You\u2019d taken on some responsibilities\u2014so much so you needed to go raise some money for your work among orphans\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014in Uganda. And you were getting ready to leave. Agnes\u2014I assume it\u2019s the same one who was almost crushed\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014by the wall that fell in on her?\u00a0 Agnes came to you and told you, you couldn\u2019t leave. You want to share that story with our listeners?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. Agnes had just kind of finally adjusted, after a few months to life with a mom\u2014life with a home \/ life with a family. As I shared a little bit earlier, I had started what started as a very small ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just said: \u201cThese kids shouldn\u2019t have to live at the orphanage if they have family members who want to take care of them. We have to figure out a way that we can pay for their schooling, and pay for their food, and pay for their medical care, and they can live with their biological family\u2014whether that\u2019s a mom, or a dad, or an aunt, or an uncle, or a grandparent.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we had grown from 10 children, who were being\u2014what we called sponsored to stay in their families\u2014to we had about 40 now. And then, 40 turned into about 100. So, we had 100 children who were signed up to go to school. We got through the first term of the school okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, it was about time for second term. It was like: \u201cOh, we don\u2019t quite have enough money to send these children back for second term. We need to do that. We\u2019ve committed to saying: \u2018You get to go to school and stay with your family. Your family does not have to give you up or put you in an institution so that you can have these basic needs met.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I knew I had to go back to the States and do some fundraising. Agnes just begged and pleaded: \u201cNo, you can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go. You can\u2019t go.\u201d\u00a0 I must have said something like, \u201cWell, sweetie, someone has to raise the money so that we can continue to eat.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that was my comment to her. So, she ran outside, and she got some grass. She said, \u201cI will eat grass, and you do not go!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was her way of trying to get you to stay there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She didn\u2019t want you to leave. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>No. So, then, I knew I was like really stuck. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And 100 grew to\u2014what size now?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>We have 721 children who are currently sponsored by Amazima. That means that their school fees are paid for \/ they\u2019re provided with meals. At school, we pay for them to have lunch. Then, we send them home with some food so that they can have dinner for their families. They\u2019re provided with any medical care that they need. This enables them to live with their family members. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of them are still children who have been orphaned\u2014a lot by HIV and AIDS. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you did end up coming back to the States to raise some money. While you were back here, your friend, who evidently must have been helping you run the village, ended up taking another child in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You want to tell our listeners about your first conversation with a little girl named Joyce?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. So, Christine, a <em>great<\/em> friend of mine\u2014she\u2019s still on our staff. She had moved into our house and was helping with just day-to-day stuff. She\u2019s a year younger than I am\u2014and helped me out with the girls. I had left her and another friend there at our home with my six girls and had gone home to do some fundraising. While I was gone\u2014received a phone call from her\u2014she said: \u201cThere is this little girl. She\u2019s really in need of a place to go. She doesn\u2019t have anyone caring for her at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWould it be okay if she came to live with us?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>At this point, you are kind of doing, \u201cOh, six\/seven\u2014I mean, I\u2019ve kind of built my life around this anyway. She doesn\u2019t have anywhere to go\u2014of course!\u00a0 Of course, she can come and stay, and we\u2019ll figure out if it\u2019s permanent, or if it\u2019s transitory, or what that looks like.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I remember she called me. She said, \u201cHello, Mommy.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m sure she had heard the other girls in our house talking about me and was like: \u201cOh, there is this lady\u2014her name is Mommy. She\u2019ll come back, and she feeds us,\u201d\u2014you know, whatever. She said, \u201cHello, Mommy, thank you for food today.\u201d\u00a0 And I just remember how that struck me\u2014you know, just sitting on this side of things in America, and having just probably eaten lunch or whatever, going, \u201cOh, my goodness\u2014\u2018Thank you for food today,\u2019 like this is what we\u2019re looking at. This is what we are dealing with\u2014people who don\u2019t even always have the guarantee of food every day.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just remember how <em>excited<\/em> I was to get home and to meet her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Speaking of food today, how many children are estimated to be on the streets\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, my goodness\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014in Uganda?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014we would have to look it up. There are so many. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tens of thousands\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014who don\u2019t have food to eat like Joyce thanked you for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let alone someone to call, \u201cMommy.\u201d\u00a0 And that\u2019s what led you, ultimately, to say, \u201cYes,\u201d to not only the first six\/seven, but now\u2014how many children are in your family or are in the process of coming into your family, as a 25-year-old young lady?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Thirteen\u2014I have thirteen foster daughters\u2014all of whom are kind of at different processes in the paperwork of being finally legally adopted; but in my heart, I mean, are all the way adopted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they are my children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a great picture, Bob, of a young lady who exhorts all of us to step out in faith\u2014looking at the needs that surround us\u2014and follow God\u2019s call and be obedient to that\u2014and just as Katie has shared, going all in\u2014not doing it halfway \/ part way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just wondering if you ever say, \u201cNo\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I\u2019m learning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you\u2019re pretty stubborn. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think there is a stubborn streak necessary to get to where Katie has gotten. I want to encourage our listeners to get a copy of the book that she\u2019s written called <em>Kisses from Katie: A Story of Relentless Love and Redemption<\/em>. We\u2019ve got the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy. Again, the title of the book, <em>Kisses from Katie<\/em>; and the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d if you\u2019d like to request a copy of the book. 1-800-FL-TODAY is the number to call, and we\u2019ll send a copy of Katie\u2019s book out to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, what we\u2019ve talked about here today, Bob, is not unusual for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We are all about giving voice to those who have none\u2014the orphan. And our listeners\u2014anybody who listens to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> knows that we have consistently championed the orphan before the Christian community, believing that the church really has the capability of addressing issues around adoption, foster care, and orphans as no other organization in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, FamilyLife helped start the original meeting that ultimately became the Christian Alliance for Orphans, which we started back 10 years ago\u2014had 35 folks at the first meeting, here at FamilyLife. And this year, we had almost 3,000\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014at Willow Creek, with people from 35 countries showing up. So, we are about championing those who have no voice\u2014orphans. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd there are a lot of great stories, but one I have to tell. A woman told me she was listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014we were talking about the orphan\u2014we were taking her near the needs of the orphan. She said, \u201cI was running an errand one night, listening to your broadcast.\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cI had to stay in the Wal-Mart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> parking lot and finish listening to the broadcast. By the time I finished listening,\u201d she said, \u201cI realized God was calling us to adopt.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I just want to turn to the listener, at this point, and say, \u201cIf we are going to stand by the orphan\u2014if we are going to stand alongside you and your marriage \/ your family and encourage you to take steps of faith as well\u2014then, right now, would be the time to make a generous gift to FamilyLife.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a great matching opportunity that we need to take full advantage of. And Bob, we need more listeners to step up and say, \u201cI stand with you guys because you stand alongside me, and my marriage, and family, giving us practical biblical help and hope for my marriage and family.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have had some friends of the ministry who have agreed that they will match every donation we receive, between now and the end of the month, on a dollar-for-dollar basis, up to a total of $2,000,000. So, you call today and make a $20 donation\u2014it\u2019s automatically a $40 donation. Or you make a $100 donation\u2014it\u2019s a $200 donation. We\u2019re asking you to be as generous as you can be so that we can take full advantage of this matching gift, and we hope you will do it today. Hope you\u2019ll go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, where it says, \u201cI Care.\u201d Make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can make a donation over the phone, and it counts if you mail your donation to us\u2014our mailing address is: Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd our zip code is 72223. We do hope to hear from you. I want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for your financial support of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to encourage you to join us again tomorrow. Katie Davis will be back. We\u2019ll talk more about how God is using her to care for the needs of orphans in Africa. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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