{"id":303297,"date":"2014-12-08T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-12-08T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/christmas-memories\/"},"modified":"2014-12-08T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-12-08T17:00:00","slug":"christmas-memories","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/christmas-memories\/","title":{"rendered":"Christmas Memories"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ever wonder what Christmas at the Rainey household is really like? 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That\u2019s just not what it\u2019s about. The most important thing is that your children know that they are loved, and that Mom and Dad love each other, and that our family stands for something\u2014that\u2019s a far more valuable gift that you can give your kids than the latest greatest toy they may be tired of in two weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, December 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Are you looking for a little Christmas season coaching?\u00a0 Well, Dennis and Barbara Rainey are here to help today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. This could be the end of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> right here\u2014today. It could all be over after this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m still waiting for the punch line! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>For the reason for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You didn\u2019t announce to me any earlier than this. You\u2019re letting our listeners know before you let me know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here is the deal\u2014we\u2019ve gone out to social media. We have invited listeners to submit questions about the Christmas holidays that your wife is going to answer for us today, and I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Why would that result in the <em>end<\/em> of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>?\u00a0 She\u2019s our most requested guest we have here on the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s my point. It could be, at the end of all of this, they just say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They don\u2019t want me anymore! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Exactly. [Laughter]\u00a0 No more <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I get it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The program will now be called <em>Ask Barbara Rainey<\/em>, and it\u2019ll be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Like Dr. Laura; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re done\u2014well, I don\u2019t know about that because I don\u2019t know if I want to put your wife and Dr. Laura in the same boat. Barbara\u2014welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Thanks for having me, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And we do have these questions\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We do. We\u2019ve got a bunch of them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>With Christmas coming, we thought, \u201cLet\u2019s ask listeners what they\u2019d most like to have us ask you about the holiday season.\u201d\u00a0 So, I think we are just going to dive into these. Are you ready to go through these?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I\u2019m ready to go through them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This first question, Bob\u2014I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve ever answered this question. I know Barbara hasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The question that somebody asked\u2014and I have to figure they are just snoops and gossips\u2014the people who asked this question\u2014[Laughter] \u2014because they want to know, \u201cWhat is the worst Christmas you recall?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And I know the answer to that without even having to think more than half a second\u2014and Dennis does too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You think it\u2019s the same Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would be surprised if it\u2019s not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I would be willing to bet money on it because I know we have the same Christmas\u2014so, here is the answer to the question\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And here\u2014before we say,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cIt was the worst,\u201d we have to have a little disclaimer. I don\u2019t know how you are about to answer it\u2014but what I would say is there were just some circumstances around this that just set it apart from any postcard or any movie\u2014was beyond description. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And to say that it was worse\u2014really, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s the right category for it. It was just the most challenging Christmas <em>ever<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That\u2019s correct. That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you are talking about the same Christmas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We are talking about the same Christmas. So, it was the first Christmas we had in our new house\u2014new to us. We\u2019ve now lived there for\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Since 1983. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>1983\u2014we had just moved into this house. My mother was coming. She\u2019d not seen the house. She was coming with my brother, who was, I think, a senior in college at the time. My other brother was coming with her. He was in the midst of a separation with his wife, but they decided to come together. We were really hopeful that we would be able to maybe help them; but it added a level of strain\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sure it did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014because they were together, but they weren\u2019t\u2014anyway\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They were separated but together; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It was\u2014yes. It was really complicated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And let me just say here, as she unpacks this story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think listeners need to hear this story because Christmas is a time of making memories; and sometimes, they don\u2019t turn out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>They aren\u2019t happy memories always. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014they don\u2019t turn out exactly like you planned on them turning out. So, it\u2019s good for you to know that <em>all<\/em> families are just families; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Can have\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Real people\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014real family life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody can have an ugly Christmas; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And you see that both of us remember the same one, instantly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It\u2019s not because it was this happy, sweet lovey-dovey weekend\u2014and that\u2019s why. So, it does help us remember and realize that sometimes the most memorable aren\u2019t always the most pleasant. We would like for them to be, but they are not always. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It started out rocky; and then, it became cavernous. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, and a couple of other factors\u2014Dennis\u2019s mother came, and my grandmother came. So, we had all these extend family attending. Even though our house had four bedrooms, that is a lot of extra people to put in the house in addition to our\u2014at the time\u2014five children. Then, we had on\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, let me just interrupt you. Bob, what would you think would be the approved biblical temperature for the house with this range?\u00a0 You\u2019ve got\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That many people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve got kids\u2014ages one or two all the way to eight or nine; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Given the fact that you and your wife can\u2019t arrive on the right biblical temperature for the studio, I can\u2019t think that the house would be any different. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was temperature wars from the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody wanted it to be warmer or colder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, no\u2014primarily, Dennis\u2019s mother wanted it to be warmer\u2014and she wanted it to be <em>a lot<\/em> warmer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>About 95. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It was even too warm for me, and Dennis wanted it to be a <em>lot cooler<\/em>. So, she\u2019d bump it up\u2014he\u2019d bump it down. She\u2019d bump it up\u2014he\u2019d bump it down. To make matters worse, we had this storm come through like four or five days before Christmas. For two weeks, it was not above freezing the whole time. We couldn\u2019t go anywhere because everything was a sheet of ice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, here we were\u2014all of this extended family, and us, and our five kids\u2014in this house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLiterally, we could not go anywhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It snowed six to eight inches\u2014then, it sleeted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Sleeted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Then, it rained. So, it turned it into a semi-iceberg. I mean, it felt like Ernest Shackleton\u2019s journey to the South Pole. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, was that the last time that you had the extended family over for Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I think it was the last time we had his mother\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014yes, that number of extended family\u2014my parents have been \/ his mother came back. But I think it\u2019s because we were in this new house\u2014Dennis\u2019s father hadn\u2019t been dead but a few years\u2014and he didn\u2019t want her to spend Christmas alone. So, he drove all the way to get her and drove her back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So, no, we didn\u2019t have that many people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, that\u2019s the worst Christmas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you remember a best Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember a best Christmas. I think we had a lot of good ones, but there isn\u2019t one, to me, that stands out. Is there one to you that stands out?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, not really\u2014not like you and I, looking at each other, on that one and nodding our heads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, there was no question which was the worst one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, I think just some great memories\u2014of gathering around the Christmas tree, reading the Christmas story, building traditions from scratch with our family\u2014and feeling like we could do that, as a couple. The whole idea of passing on the truth about Christmas and about Jesus Christ was there from the very start. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was where I would have to say, though, Bob\u2014it was where Barbara began to talk about developing resources for families because she was going, \u201cWhere are the resources to help us pass on these truths about Christmas to our kids in beautiful yet meaningful ways?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, and we ought to add\u2014we\u2019ve had a lot of listeners, who have been contacting us about the most recent set of ornaments that you\u2019ve designed\u2014the Adorenaments<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that are His Savior names in the shape of a cross\u2014a lot of folks who are pretty excited about those. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, they really are, which is fun\u2014it\u2019s gratifying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And folks can go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get more information about those ornaments if they\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAlright, here is question number two: \u201cMany children these days get so many gifts, not only from Santa Claus, but from grandparents, aunts, uncles. Were you ever concerned about this, and what would you say to the mom who is worried about the kids just drowning in stuff?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, I wasn\u2019t terribly concerned about it because we were in a different era than today. I watched our kids and our grandkids, and they do get a lot of stuff. If I were raising kids today, I think I would be really concerned about that. But my parents got our children gifts, his mother got them gifts; but it wasn\u2019t really excessive. We were pretty conservative about how much we bought them. We bought them each one gift. They got some things in their stockings, and they did things for each other. So, it wasn\u2019t\u2014from our perspective\u2014it wasn\u2019t excessive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, though, if we did have that excessive volume of gifts\u2014I think what we\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014one of the things that I would do is\u2014we\u2019d go ahead and receive those gifts from the aunts, and uncles, and whoever\u2014and I think, afterward, I would probably try to pare some of it down and maybe put some of it in a closet and pull it out later. I think there is a way to keep the clutter down and to keep the volume from\u2014I mean, kids are overwhelmed. They only play with one or two toys at a time anyway. They can\u2019t play with 10 or 15 at once. And so, you can kind of help them by putting a few things away\u2014maybe bringing it out in the middle of January\u2014it\u2019ll be brand-new to them\u2014they won\u2019t even remember. So, you can kind of monitor and control that volume. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think one of the things that I see families doing today is they are looking for fresh ways to turn their families, externally, to other people\u2019s needs. I\u2019ve shared many times, here on the broadcast, how one of my favorite memories was going with my dad to deliver some Christmas hams to people who were less fortunate than our family. I\u2019m talking about some people who were dirt poor\u2014I mean, just really, really poor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a great memory of my father, who was a very compassionate man, wanting to make sure Christmas was not just about our family\u2014but reaching out to other people and helping them celebrate the holidays as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, I don\u2019t want to turn this into some kind of a formula\u2014but would you say that for a child to get no more than five gifts on Christmas morning\u2014is there a right number?\u00a0 Is there a point at which you\u2019d go, \u201cNow, it\u2019s starting to feel like they are just drowning in stuff\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think there is a number. I think that\u2019s a decision that the mom and dad make together\u2014the couple talk. We talked about it, and we decided that we didn\u2019t want them to just be inundated with gifts. So, we made a decision that they would get one gift from us. They would get their stocking gift, and we always did a book bag. That was kind of one of my things\u2014is my kids got, at least, one\u2014maybe, two books a year from us. Then, they got their gifts from their grandparents. So, I think you just kind of have to decide what fits right for your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve got to interrupt you at this point, Sweetheart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer idea of a stocking\u2014when the stocking was full of stuff\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014it was a treasure trove. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good for you!\u00a0 I\u2019m with you on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I love stockings!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do too. Mary Ann\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>They were so much fun\u2014lots of little things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Mary Ann always felt like, \u201cOh, you just go overboard on the stocking.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s what stockings are for\u2014to go overboard on.\u201d\u00a0 I also put goofy stuff in there that the kids would pull out and just kind of roll their eyes at, but I loved that!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 And Mary Ann would say, \u201cWhy did you waste that money on that goofy stuff you put in there?\u00a0 Why did you put silly string in their stockings?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cBecause I like silly string\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthat\u2019s why I put it in their stockings.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But see, that\u2019s so typical because I think couples have to figure that out. We\u2019ve listened to our son and daughter-in-law about how different their values are when it comes to what they buy their kids for Christmas because one of them thinks it needs to be something they need\u2014something that has some value, something that has some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Function. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Underwear kind of stuff?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And the other one says, \u201cIt\u2019s not a Christmas gift if it\u2019s not fun and purely frivolous.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So, they have this great tension every year between how they are going to spend their limited amount of money\u2014because one of them wants to buy these really silly things and one wants to buy practical things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I guess, if I was going to kind of put a tension against the muscle on this issue, Bob, I would challenge parents to kind of pull back and say, \u201cAre we training our kids to be little materialistic people?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, Christmas can be all about me, as a child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it\u2019s okay, to a certain extent, to celebrate that; but when kids get really nice stuff \/ expensive stuff and they feel like they deserve it and they are entitled to it\u2014you just have to go out 10\/15 years and say: \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they are teenagers?\u201d\u00a0 Then, \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they are in college and as adults?\u201d\u00a0 Then, \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they get married, where they may not be able to afford the standard of Christmas that you may be able to afford?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, just because you can, doesn\u2019t mean you should. And I think it ought to be a matter, truthfully, of parents really taking a step back and going, \u201cWhat is an appropriate tension for our family when it comes to gift giving\u2014the size of gifts \/ the amount of money we are spending?\u201d\u2014and just make sure we\u2019re balancing it against the same Scriptures that tell the story of Christ becoming flesh, here at Christmastime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay; that leads to the next question, which is about the budget: \u201cDid you have a budget?\u00a0 Did you have a number in mind\u2014how much you would spend for each child?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, we did. I don\u2019t remember what that number was; do you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But we did have a budget\u2014we had a limit. We would spend only approximately that much. If there was\u2014because there were years when the toy we wanted to get, or the whatever, was more\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014but it wasn\u2019t a lot more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, yes, we tried to stay within some kind of boundaries. That was good for us\u2014it was good for me. It was good for both of us to say: \u201cWell, we could probably afford to buy that, but we\u2019ve agreed that this is what we are going to do. So, we are going to stay in this budget.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would say, in 29 years of doing stockings, though, Bob\u2014I would say she never stayed within the budget on the stockings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Stockings did not have budget. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We didn\u2019t have a specific budget for stockings! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2014stockings are budget busters. [Laughter]\u00a0 That\u2019s how it ought to work. Barbara, I\u2019m with you on this stocking thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We just need to get you to bankroll the stockings next time, Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you find yourself with a tension\u2014wanting to make sure that you had spent the same amount for Child A that you spent for Child B and C?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, I wasn\u2019t that legalistic with it; but roughly, yes. I mean, I tried to stay within that range\u2014whatever that price range was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But\u2014I wasn\u2019t legalistic about it. If there was something I knew one child really wanted, and it was an extra 10\/15 bucks,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I would spend it because they\u2019re not\u2014they were not going to know, at that season of their life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you ever have a Christmas where a child felt like they got short-shifted on gifts?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>There were some Christmases when our kids were disappointed with what they got. I remember that was so hard on me because I\u2019d spent so much energy and time\u2014because I was\u2014I mean, let\u2019s face it\u2014most women are the ones that are behind all of this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And I\u2019d spent so much time and energy, thinking through what they would really like. My goal was really to help them feel loved. So, then, when they were really disappointed, that\u2014it was real hard for me\u2014I didn\u2019t like that at all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I can tell you one of the surprises that we had was\u2014not the gifts that we gave our kids\u2014but the gifts the kids gave one another. One year, one of the girls \/ maybe two of the girls gave the boys\u2014and this was their gift to their brother\u2014camouflage pencils. And that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And they were pretty young. Now, don\u2019t\u2014they weren\u2019t teenagers. [Laughter] They were like five and six years old\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Of course. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014and they went to the little school store that the school set up. They spent their own money\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But it just struck\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014and yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014but it just struck a wrong cord\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, the boys weren\u2019t too thrilled about it\u2014[Laughter]\u2014their older brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It ended up being allowed to become a bigger deal than it should have been because it ended up hurting the feelings of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The girls, who were really excited about what they\u2019d chosen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014yes, the girls who gave the gift. Because the boys were hunters, they thought the camouflage pencils were cool!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Pretty cool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Doesn\u2019t matter that they only cost seven cents apiece. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do know that I stumbled with one of our kids\u2014buying the bargain brand stuff when what they child really wanted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014wanted was the name; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the portable CD player that was not the Sony Walkman brand\u2014but was the GXP\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The knockoff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014or whatever it was\u2014that was not a hit when they opened that one up; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you know, here again, though, Bob, I really fear, from an entitlement standpoint\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014if children always get what whatever they want, is that healthy?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The answer is: \u201cNo, it\u2019s not healthy,\u201d if they get whatever they want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think it is. I remember Barbara and I scraped and saved, and we were able to buy a swing set for the kids that I set up late one Christmas Eve into Christmas morning\u2014past midnight. I mean, it took forever. But those kinds of gifts came at sacrifice, on our end, and the kids\u2014they had no idea what we\u2019d spent on that. But I think some of the best Christmases we had were when we didn\u2019t have a whole lot to be able to spread around. We really worked hard and thoughtfully about what we were giving one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a question here about jealousy among kids. The listener says: \u201cIt seems like other parents are spending more on their kids than we spend on ours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cOur kids don\u2019t get the latest, greatest toys or clothes. How do I deal with jealousy with my kids?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that one of the rituals on the second half of Christmas Day is you get on the phone. You call your friends and say, \u201cWhat did you get?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I know. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cAnd what did you get?\u201d\u00a0 You share what you got. At the end of that ritual, the kids come back\u2014they were excited before they got on the phone and started talking to their friends\u2014now, they are depressed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, comparison is a trap; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It really is. What I just want to say, at the beginning, as Barbara answers this question, is\u2014this is a part of the boot camp that all kids go to. It\u2019s guerilla training that they get to find out someone among their peers\u2014who got something more, or bigger, or better than they got. Then, they throw it back at the parents to try and make you feel crummy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Then, they turn whoever that one person is into\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u201cEverybody.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cAll my friends.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cEverybody\u2014all of them\u201d!\u00a0 And so, you just have to spot the ploy, as a parent, and be very, very wise on this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, you also have to be real with your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, deep down inside, your kids know it and they appreciate it when you say: \u201cLook, I\u2019m sorry if you\u2019re disappointed; but your mom and I\u201d or \u201c\u2026you dad and I worked really hard. We thought long and hard about it, and we didn\u2019t do this to disappoint you. We did this to communicate to you that we love you; but we have a limited budget, and we can\u2019t spend that much. There are six of you,\u201d\u2014or whatever it is\u2014\u201cand we can\u2019t afford what those other families can afford.\u201d But it is so easy to get caught up in that with the advertising and what you see other people buying for their kids. It can become a real competition to outdo somebody else, and that\u2019s just not what it\u2019s about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe most important thing is that your children know that they are loved, and that Mom and Dad love each other, and that our family stands for something. That\u2019s far more valuable a gift that you can give your kids than the latest greatest toy that they may be tired of in two weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, what happens with a lot of guys is\u2014it becomes kind of a competitive thing of bagging the most popular gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack when we were raising our kids, it was the Cabbage Patch [Kids]<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> doll. I mean, they were going for premium. People were lining up at stores when the truck would arrive overnight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s just interesting, Bob, how that\u2019s come and gone. I think our kids had Cabbage Patch dolls; and later on, they threw them away\u2014didn\u2019t keep them. So, you have to put it in perspective\u2014that what is hot today, and what is rare, and seems like it is incredibly valuable\u2014as Barbara said, needs to be put in proper perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I think you\u2019ve got to keep reminding yourself and your children about what this season is all about in the first place\u2014so that, in the midst of the barrage of marketing that we all experience at Christmastime, we can remember we\u2019re really here to celebrate the fact that light came into the world\u2014that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know, Barbara, that\u2019s why you have spent so many hours, over the last several years, designing the Adorenaments that people are putting on their Christmas trees\u2014ornaments that focus on the names of Christ so that, in our homes and in our own hearts, we can be remembering what this season really is all about. It\u2019s not about Cabbage Patch Kids\u2014it\u2019s about Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I have to tell you, we had a ton of folks who went to your website\u2014to EverThineHome.com\u2014and ordered the new set of Adorenaments. These are the Savior names of Jesus, all in the shape of a cross\u2014and they are beautiful. In fact, I\u2019ve heard from some of our listeners\u2014they\u2019ve seen some of these showing up in Dillard\u2019s Department Stores. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to EverThineHome.com. You\u2019ll see, not only the Savior names set of Adorenaments, but also the royal names and Christmas names. You can order ornaments for your Christmas tree, or you can order ornaments to give as gifts to others if you\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOnce again, go to EverThineHome.com and order the ornaments that Barbara has created\u2014or the Bright Morning Star tree-topper or any of the other resources you\u2019ve been designing for Christmas\u2014the website: EverThineHome.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeaking of hearing from listeners, we\u2019ve been encouraged, over the last couple of days, as some of our listeners are getting a jump on yearend gift giving. I know that because we\u2019ve received some donations over the last week as folks are getting in touch with us to let us know that they want to make a yearend contribution in support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. That\u2019s really important for us because more than 50 percent of the revenue that we need to operate, as a ministry, comes in, typically, during the month of December. What happens\u2014this month sets the course for the coming year for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have some friends of the ministry who are aware of that fact. They came to us and they said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to provide matching funds to maybe encourage your listeners to join with us in giving to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey have agreed, during the month of December, they will match any donation you make to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, dollar for dollar. So, if you make a $50 donation, they\u2019ll add $50 to it. If you make $100 donation, they\u2019ll add $100 to it. Whatever you are able to give, they will match it, up to a total of $2,000,000. Of course, that is very generous on their part. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe would love to be able to take full advantage of that matching gift; but if we are going to do that, we need to hear from as many listeners as possible. Would you consider, today, going to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, click where it says, \u201cI Care,\u201d and make as generous a yearend contribution as you possibly can to support this ministry?\u00a0 We would appreciate it. We\u2019re grateful for your partnership; and again, your donation is going to be matched, dollar for dollar. You can also call to make a donation. Call 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue answering questions we\u2019ve received from our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners via Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and email, and Twitter<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. I hope you can tune in as we tackle more of your questions tomorrow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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Dennis and Barbara Rainey walk down memory lane and answer listeners' questions about their best and worst Christmases ever.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-12-08.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s possible to get carried away with the wrong stuff at Christmas\u2014at least Barbara Rainey says she\u2019s had that experience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We get caught so often in the trap that more is better and that the more money we spend, then, our child or our children will know that we love them more. That\u2019s just not what it\u2019s about. The most important thing is that your children know that they are loved, and that Mom and Dad love each other, and that our family stands for something\u2014that\u2019s a far more valuable gift that you can give your kids than the latest greatest toy they may be tired of in two weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, December 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Are you looking for a little Christmas season coaching?\u00a0 Well, Dennis and Barbara Rainey are here to help today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. This could be the end of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> right here\u2014today. It could all be over after this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m still waiting for the punch line! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>For the reason for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You didn\u2019t announce to me any earlier than this. You\u2019re letting our listeners know before you let me know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here is the deal\u2014we\u2019ve gone out to social media. We have invited listeners to submit questions about the Christmas holidays that your wife is going to answer for us today, and I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Why would that result in the <em>end<\/em> of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>?\u00a0 She\u2019s our most requested guest we have here on the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s my point. It could be, at the end of all of this, they just say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They don\u2019t want me anymore! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Exactly. [Laughter]\u00a0 No more <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I get it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The program will now be called <em>Ask Barbara Rainey<\/em>, and it\u2019ll be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Like Dr. Laura; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re done\u2014well, I don\u2019t know about that because I don\u2019t know if I want to put your wife and Dr. Laura in the same boat. Barbara\u2014welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Thanks for having me, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And we do have these questions\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We do. We\u2019ve got a bunch of them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>With Christmas coming, we thought, \u201cLet\u2019s ask listeners what they\u2019d most like to have us ask you about the holiday season.\u201d\u00a0 So, I think we are just going to dive into these. Are you ready to go through these?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I\u2019m ready to go through them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This first question, Bob\u2014I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve ever answered this question. I know Barbara hasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The question that somebody asked\u2014and I have to figure they are just snoops and gossips\u2014the people who asked this question\u2014[Laughter] \u2014because they want to know, \u201cWhat is the worst Christmas you recall?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And I know the answer to that without even having to think more than half a second\u2014and Dennis does too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You think it\u2019s the same Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would be surprised if it\u2019s not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I would be willing to bet money on it because I know we have the same Christmas\u2014so, here is the answer to the question\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And here\u2014before we say,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cIt was the worst,\u201d we have to have a little disclaimer. I don\u2019t know how you are about to answer it\u2014but what I would say is there were just some circumstances around this that just set it apart from any postcard or any movie\u2014was beyond description. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And to say that it was worse\u2014really, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s the right category for it. It was just the most challenging Christmas <em>ever<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That\u2019s correct. That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you are talking about the same Christmas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We are talking about the same Christmas. So, it was the first Christmas we had in our new house\u2014new to us. We\u2019ve now lived there for\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Since 1983. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>1983\u2014we had just moved into this house. My mother was coming. She\u2019d not seen the house. She was coming with my brother, who was, I think, a senior in college at the time. My other brother was coming with her. He was in the midst of a separation with his wife, but they decided to come together. We were really hopeful that we would be able to maybe help them; but it added a level of strain\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sure it did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014because they were together, but they weren\u2019t\u2014anyway\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They were separated but together; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It was\u2014yes. 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Bob, what would you think would be the approved biblical temperature for the house with this range?\u00a0 You\u2019ve got\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That many people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve got kids\u2014ages one or two all the way to eight or nine; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Given the fact that you and your wife can\u2019t arrive on the right biblical temperature for the studio, I can\u2019t think that the house would be any different. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was temperature wars from the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody wanted it to be warmer or colder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, no\u2014primarily, Dennis\u2019s mother wanted it to be warmer\u2014and she wanted it to be <em>a lot<\/em> warmer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>About 95. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It was even too warm for me, and Dennis wanted it to be a <em>lot cooler<\/em>. So, she\u2019d bump it up\u2014he\u2019d bump it down. She\u2019d bump it up\u2014he\u2019d bump it down. To make matters worse, we had this storm come through like four or five days before Christmas. For two weeks, it was not above freezing the whole time. We couldn\u2019t go anywhere because everything was a sheet of ice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, here we were\u2014all of this extended family, and us, and our five kids\u2014in this house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLiterally, we could not go anywhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It snowed six to eight inches\u2014then, it sleeted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Sleeted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Then, it rained. So, it turned it into a semi-iceberg. I mean, it felt like Ernest Shackleton\u2019s journey to the South Pole. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, was that the last time that you had the extended family over for Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I think it was the last time we had his mother\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014yes, that number of extended family\u2014my parents have been \/ his mother came back. But I think it\u2019s because we were in this new house\u2014Dennis\u2019s father hadn\u2019t been dead but a few years\u2014and he didn\u2019t want her to spend Christmas alone. So, he drove all the way to get her and drove her back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So, no, we didn\u2019t have that many people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, that\u2019s the worst Christmas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you remember a best Christmas?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember a best Christmas. I think we had a lot of good ones, but there isn\u2019t one, to me, that stands out. Is there one to you that stands out?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, not really\u2014not like you and I, looking at each other, on that one and nodding our heads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, there was no question which was the worst one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, I think just some great memories\u2014of gathering around the Christmas tree, reading the Christmas story, building traditions from scratch with our family\u2014and feeling like we could do that, as a couple. The whole idea of passing on the truth about Christmas and about Jesus Christ was there from the very start. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was where I would have to say, though, Bob\u2014it was where Barbara began to talk about developing resources for families because she was going, \u201cWhere are the resources to help us pass on these truths about Christmas to our kids in beautiful yet meaningful ways?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, and we ought to add\u2014we\u2019ve had a lot of listeners, who have been contacting us about the most recent set of ornaments that you\u2019ve designed\u2014the Adorenaments<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that are His Savior names in the shape of a cross\u2014a lot of folks who are pretty excited about those. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, they really are, which is fun\u2014it\u2019s gratifying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And folks can go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get more information about those ornaments if they\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAlright, here is question number two: \u201cMany children these days get so many gifts, not only from Santa Claus, but from grandparents, aunts, uncles. Were you ever concerned about this, and what would you say to the mom who is worried about the kids just drowning in stuff?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, I wasn\u2019t terribly concerned about it because we were in a different era than today. I watched our kids and our grandkids, and they do get a lot of stuff. If I were raising kids today, I think I would be really concerned about that. But my parents got our children gifts, his mother got them gifts; but it wasn\u2019t really excessive. We were pretty conservative about how much we bought them. We bought them each one gift. They got some things in their stockings, and they did things for each other. So, it wasn\u2019t\u2014from our perspective\u2014it wasn\u2019t excessive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, though, if we did have that excessive volume of gifts\u2014I think what we\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014one of the things that I would do is\u2014we\u2019d go ahead and receive those gifts from the aunts, and uncles, and whoever\u2014and I think, afterward, I would probably try to pare some of it down and maybe put some of it in a closet and pull it out later. I think there is a way to keep the clutter down and to keep the volume from\u2014I mean, kids are overwhelmed. They only play with one or two toys at a time anyway. They can\u2019t play with 10 or 15 at once. And so, you can kind of help them by putting a few things away\u2014maybe bringing it out in the middle of January\u2014it\u2019ll be brand-new to them\u2014they won\u2019t even remember. So, you can kind of monitor and control that volume. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think one of the things that I see families doing today is they are looking for fresh ways to turn their families, externally, to other people\u2019s needs. I\u2019ve shared many times, here on the broadcast, how one of my favorite memories was going with my dad to deliver some Christmas hams to people who were less fortunate than our family. I\u2019m talking about some people who were dirt poor\u2014I mean, just really, really poor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a great memory of my father, who was a very compassionate man, wanting to make sure Christmas was not just about our family\u2014but reaching out to other people and helping them celebrate the holidays as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, I don\u2019t want to turn this into some kind of a formula\u2014but would you say that for a child to get no more than five gifts on Christmas morning\u2014is there a right number?\u00a0 Is there a point at which you\u2019d go, \u201cNow, it\u2019s starting to feel like they are just drowning in stuff\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think there is a number. I think that\u2019s a decision that the mom and dad make together\u2014the couple talk. We talked about it, and we decided that we didn\u2019t want them to just be inundated with gifts. So, we made a decision that they would get one gift from us. They would get their stocking gift, and we always did a book bag. That was kind of one of my things\u2014is my kids got, at least, one\u2014maybe, two books a year from us. Then, they got their gifts from their grandparents. So, I think you just kind of have to decide what fits right for your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve got to interrupt you at this point, Sweetheart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer idea of a stocking\u2014when the stocking was full of stuff\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014it was a treasure trove. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good for you!\u00a0 I\u2019m with you on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I love stockings!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do too. Mary Ann\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>They were so much fun\u2014lots of little things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Mary Ann always felt like, \u201cOh, you just go overboard on the stocking.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s what stockings are for\u2014to go overboard on.\u201d\u00a0 I also put goofy stuff in there that the kids would pull out and just kind of roll their eyes at, but I loved that!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 And Mary Ann would say, \u201cWhy did you waste that money on that goofy stuff you put in there?\u00a0 Why did you put silly string in their stockings?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cBecause I like silly string\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthat\u2019s why I put it in their stockings.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But see, that\u2019s so typical because I think couples have to figure that out. We\u2019ve listened to our son and daughter-in-law about how different their values are when it comes to what they buy their kids for Christmas because one of them thinks it needs to be something they need\u2014something that has some value, something that has some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Function. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Underwear kind of stuff?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And the other one says, \u201cIt\u2019s not a Christmas gift if it\u2019s not fun and purely frivolous.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So, they have this great tension every year between how they are going to spend their limited amount of money\u2014because one of them wants to buy these really silly things and one wants to buy practical things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I guess, if I was going to kind of put a tension against the muscle on this issue, Bob, I would challenge parents to kind of pull back and say, \u201cAre we training our kids to be little materialistic people?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, Christmas can be all about me, as a child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it\u2019s okay, to a certain extent, to celebrate that; but when kids get really nice stuff \/ expensive stuff and they feel like they deserve it and they are entitled to it\u2014you just have to go out 10\/15 years and say: \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they are teenagers?\u201d\u00a0 Then, \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they are in college and as adults?\u201d\u00a0 Then, \u201cWhat are they going to be like when they get married, where they may not be able to afford the standard of Christmas that you may be able to afford?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, just because you can, doesn\u2019t mean you should. And I think it ought to be a matter, truthfully, of parents really taking a step back and going, \u201cWhat is an appropriate tension for our family when it comes to gift giving\u2014the size of gifts \/ the amount of money we are spending?\u201d\u2014and just make sure we\u2019re balancing it against the same Scriptures that tell the story of Christ becoming flesh, here at Christmastime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay; that leads to the next question, which is about the budget: \u201cDid you have a budget?\u00a0 Did you have a number in mind\u2014how much you would spend for each child?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, we did. I don\u2019t remember what that number was; do you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But we did have a budget\u2014we had a limit. We would spend only approximately that much. If there was\u2014because there were years when the toy we wanted to get, or the whatever, was more\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014but it wasn\u2019t a lot more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, yes, we tried to stay within some kind of boundaries. That was good for us\u2014it was good for me. It was good for both of us to say: \u201cWell, we could probably afford to buy that, but we\u2019ve agreed that this is what we are going to do. So, we are going to stay in this budget.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would say, in 29 years of doing stockings, though, Bob\u2014I would say she never stayed within the budget on the stockings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Stockings did not have budget. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We didn\u2019t have a specific budget for stockings! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2014stockings are budget busters. [Laughter]\u00a0 That\u2019s how it ought to work. Barbara, I\u2019m with you on this stocking thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We just need to get you to bankroll the stockings next time, Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you find yourself with a tension\u2014wanting to make sure that you had spent the same amount for Child A that you spent for Child B and C?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, I wasn\u2019t that legalistic with it; but roughly, yes. I mean, I tried to stay within that range\u2014whatever that price range was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>But\u2014I wasn\u2019t legalistic about it. If there was something I knew one child really wanted, and it was an extra 10\/15 bucks,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I would spend it because they\u2019re not\u2014they were not going to know, at that season of their life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you ever have a Christmas where a child felt like they got short-shifted on gifts?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>There were some Christmases when our kids were disappointed with what they got. I remember that was so hard on me because I\u2019d spent so much energy and time\u2014because I was\u2014I mean, let\u2019s face it\u2014most women are the ones that are behind all of this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And I\u2019d spent so much time and energy, thinking through what they would really like. My goal was really to help them feel loved. So, then, when they were really disappointed, that\u2014it was real hard for me\u2014I didn\u2019t like that at all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I can tell you one of the surprises that we had was\u2014not the gifts that we gave our kids\u2014but the gifts the kids gave one another. One year, one of the girls \/ maybe two of the girls gave the boys\u2014and this was their gift to their brother\u2014camouflage pencils. And that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And they were pretty young. Now, don\u2019t\u2014they weren\u2019t teenagers. [Laughter] They were like five and six years old\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Of course. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014and they went to the little school store that the school set up. They spent their own money\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But it just struck\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014and yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014but it just struck a wrong cord\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, the boys weren\u2019t too thrilled about it\u2014[Laughter]\u2014their older brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It ended up being allowed to become a bigger deal than it should have been because it ended up hurting the feelings of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The girls, who were really excited about what they\u2019d chosen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014yes, the girls who gave the gift. Because the boys were hunters, they thought the camouflage pencils were cool!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Pretty cool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Doesn\u2019t matter that they only cost seven cents apiece. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do know that I stumbled with one of our kids\u2014buying the bargain brand stuff when what they child really wanted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014wanted was the name; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the portable CD player that was not the Sony Walkman brand\u2014but was the GXP\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The knockoff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014or whatever it was\u2014that was not a hit when they opened that one up; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you know, here again, though, Bob, I really fear, from an entitlement standpoint\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014if children always get what whatever they want, is that healthy?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>The answer is: \u201cNo, it\u2019s not healthy,\u201d if they get whatever they want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think it is. I remember Barbara and I scraped and saved, and we were able to buy a swing set for the kids that I set up late one Christmas Eve into Christmas morning\u2014past midnight. I mean, it took forever. But those kinds of gifts came at sacrifice, on our end, and the kids\u2014they had no idea what we\u2019d spent on that. But I think some of the best Christmases we had were when we didn\u2019t have a whole lot to be able to spread around. We really worked hard and thoughtfully about what we were giving one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a question here about jealousy among kids. The listener says: \u201cIt seems like other parents are spending more on their kids than we spend on ours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cOur kids don\u2019t get the latest, greatest toys or clothes. How do I deal with jealousy with my kids?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that one of the rituals on the second half of Christmas Day is you get on the phone. You call your friends and say, \u201cWhat did you get?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I know. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cAnd what did you get?\u201d\u00a0 You share what you got. At the end of that ritual, the kids come back\u2014they were excited before they got on the phone and started talking to their friends\u2014now, they are depressed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, comparison is a trap; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It really is. What I just want to say, at the beginning, as Barbara answers this question, is\u2014this is a part of the boot camp that all kids go to. It\u2019s guerilla training that they get to find out someone among their peers\u2014who got something more, or bigger, or better than they got. Then, they throw it back at the parents to try and make you feel crummy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Then, they turn whoever that one person is into\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u201cEverybody.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cAll my friends.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cEverybody\u2014all of them\u201d!\u00a0 And so, you just have to spot the ploy, as a parent, and be very, very wise on this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, you also have to be real with your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, deep down inside, your kids know it and they appreciate it when you say: \u201cLook, I\u2019m sorry if you\u2019re disappointed; but your mom and I\u201d or \u201c\u2026you dad and I worked really hard. We thought long and hard about it, and we didn\u2019t do this to disappoint you. We did this to communicate to you that we love you; but we have a limited budget, and we can\u2019t spend that much. There are six of you,\u201d\u2014or whatever it is\u2014\u201cand we can\u2019t afford what those other families can afford.\u201d But it is so easy to get caught up in that with the advertising and what you see other people buying for their kids. It can become a real competition to outdo somebody else, and that\u2019s just not what it\u2019s about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe most important thing is that your children know that they are loved, and that Mom and Dad love each other, and that our family stands for something. That\u2019s far more valuable a gift that you can give your kids than the latest greatest toy that they may be tired of in two weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, what happens with a lot of guys is\u2014it becomes kind of a competitive thing of bagging the most popular gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack when we were raising our kids, it was the Cabbage Patch [Kids]<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> doll. I mean, they were going for premium. People were lining up at stores when the truck would arrive overnight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s just interesting, Bob, how that\u2019s come and gone. I think our kids had Cabbage Patch dolls; and later on, they threw them away\u2014didn\u2019t keep them. So, you have to put it in perspective\u2014that what is hot today, and what is rare, and seems like it is incredibly valuable\u2014as Barbara said, needs to be put in proper perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I think you\u2019ve got to keep reminding yourself and your children about what this season is all about in the first place\u2014so that, in the midst of the barrage of marketing that we all experience at Christmastime, we can remember we\u2019re really here to celebrate the fact that light came into the world\u2014that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know, Barbara, that\u2019s why you have spent so many hours, over the last several years, designing the Adorenaments that people are putting on their Christmas trees\u2014ornaments that focus on the names of Christ so that, in our homes and in our own hearts, we can be remembering what this season really is all about. It\u2019s not about Cabbage Patch Kids\u2014it\u2019s about Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I have to tell you, we had a ton of folks who went to your website\u2014to EverThineHome.com\u2014and ordered the new set of Adorenaments. These are the Savior names of Jesus, all in the shape of a cross\u2014and they are beautiful. In fact, I\u2019ve heard from some of our listeners\u2014they\u2019ve seen some of these showing up in Dillard\u2019s Department Stores. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to EverThineHome.com. You\u2019ll see, not only the Savior names set of Adorenaments, but also the royal names and Christmas names. You can order ornaments for your Christmas tree, or you can order ornaments to give as gifts to others if you\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOnce again, go to EverThineHome.com and order the ornaments that Barbara has created\u2014or the Bright Morning Star tree-topper or any of the other resources you\u2019ve been designing for Christmas\u2014the website: EverThineHome.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeaking of hearing from listeners, we\u2019ve been encouraged, over the last couple of days, as some of our listeners are getting a jump on yearend gift giving. I know that because we\u2019ve received some donations over the last week as folks are getting in touch with us to let us know that they want to make a yearend contribution in support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. That\u2019s really important for us because more than 50 percent of the revenue that we need to operate, as a ministry, comes in, typically, during the month of December. What happens\u2014this month sets the course for the coming year for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have some friends of the ministry who are aware of that fact. They came to us and they said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to provide matching funds to maybe encourage your listeners to join with us in giving to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey have agreed, during the month of December, they will match any donation you make to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, dollar for dollar. So, if you make a $50 donation, they\u2019ll add $50 to it. If you make $100 donation, they\u2019ll add $100 to it. 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