{"id":303279,"date":"2014-11-25T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-11-25T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god\/"},"modified":"2014-11-25T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-11-25T17:00:00","slug":"using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Using Your Talents for the Glory of God"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Owen Strachan opens the Bible to the Parable of the Talents explaining that the meaning of the parable isn&#8217;t financial stewardship, but going all out for the glory of God.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-11-25.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.82M","filesize_raw":"23928297","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2821],"tags":[5524,5522,5523],"podcast_series":[8049],"cwp_profile":[9369],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303279","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-reaching-out","tag-live-life-on-the-edge","tag-share-the-gospel","tag-take-a-risk-for-jesus","podcast_series-risky-gospel","cwp_profile-owen-strachan","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303279\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303279\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"WjDaVpp1bA\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god\/\">Using Your Talents for the Glory of God<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/using-your-talents-for-the-glory-of-god\/embed\/#?secret=WjDaVpp1bA\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Using Your Talents for the Glory of God&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"WjDaVpp1bA\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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That\u2019s the blessing of the family\u2014we have this opportunity to train them. We\u2019re not expecting someone else to come along and train them. I\u2019m their head\u2014I\u2019m their dad, I\u2019m their father and the shepherd of the home. I\u2019ve got to lead here, and my wife is a fantastic help in that respect. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, November 25<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How do we train our children to think and to act Christianly?\u00a0 How do we point them toward the right mission?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about those things today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019ll never forget a conversation I had\u2014this was probably 15 years ago\u2014a guy, here at FamilyLife, came into my office one morning. He said: \u201cMy wife and I have decided that we\u2019re leaving staff. We are going to go to another city and plant a church.\u201d\u00a0 It took me by surprise. I didn\u2019t even know this was on his radar screen\u2014something he was thinking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here is the thing he said to me that stuck with me. He said, \u201cYou know,\u201d\u2014he said, \u201cI\u2019ve been in ministry for more than a decade now; but honestly, I haven\u2019t had to do anything that required faith in a long time.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI\u2019m doing good stuff, but I just hadn\u2019t had to do anything where I exercise my faith muscle.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cThis is going to require me to step out and exercise some faith.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I remember smiling and thinking, \u201cOkay, when was the last time I had to do anything that required some faith of me?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was proud of him for stepping out like he was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think the Christian life can\u2019t be lived without faith. In fact, Hebrews, Chapter 11, verse 6, says, \u201cAnd without faith, it is impossible to please God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And like I wrote a friend recently: \u201cSometimes, I wish it was a little easier to please God, where I didn\u2019t have this tension against the faith muscle that was constantly calling me in such a dependent way to say: \u2018God, if You don\u2019t show up, I\u2019m toast. If You don\u2019t help here\u2014if You\u2019re not in this, this is going to be a colossal failure.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a guest with us who, I think, believes that as well. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Risky Gospel<\/em>. Owen Strachan joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Thank you so much. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I promised our listeners yesterday\u2014you are a multi-gifted guy. You\u2019re a seminary professor\u2014teacher at Boyce College. You have been married to one woman, Bethany, for eight years\u2014three children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut on the side, you\u2019ve got this moonlight job that you kind of pride yourself in\u2014you\u2019re a rapper\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019ve just got to say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014a rapper from Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You are the least likely guy I know to do rap. You\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, why are you saying that, Bob?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, because\u2014come on!\u00a0 I mean, I don\u2019t know you that well; but I\u2019m just\u2014you know, you are from Maine\u2014and you\u2019re kind of a white guy; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I am. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I can\u2019t deny that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you are wearing a button-down, and you\u2019ve got a tie on today. This is just not rap\u2014if you are wearing a hat, it would be straight forward, not to the side\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Probably not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014unless it was a costume you were putting on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you just don\u2019t have the rap persona working for you. You know that; don\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, give it to us. Let\u2019s hear it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Before we hear it, why is this even in your repertoire?\u00a0 I mean, did you grow up listening to Eminem or what?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Genetic misfire, I don\u2019t know. I\u2019m not sure. [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure what accounts for this instinct. I grew up on the coast of Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCountry music dominated the scene, as you can imagine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Country music in Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Oh, it\u2019s big. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It is big. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes, I mean, I went to a high school where guys would show up for class in the morning with dead moose in the back of their truck\u2014I\u2019m not exaggerating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I can believe that. I always thought that country music didn\u2019t go north of the Mason-Dixon Line very far. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, no\u2014it\u2019s up there on Bar Harbor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You can really hear some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You can tune into it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>It\u2019s big time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Big time\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, that\u2019s country music, though. Rap is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Where did rap come from?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right\u2014we\u2019re getting there. It\u2019s a long and strange story. You know what it was?\u00a0 It was the explosion of basketball in the \u201890s because basketball introduced, through television\u2014introduced an entire generation of young suburban or whatever \/ young white men to rap and to basketball. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Are you a basketball player?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I love basketball. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, now, can we just explain your kind of Spud Webb type; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I am. Mine is the dunking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How tall are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>5\u20197\u201d\u20145\u20198\u201d on a good day. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He told the truth!\u00a0 I\u2019m just kind of astounded that they just found out about basketball in 1990 in Maine. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you are a 5\u20197\u201d\u2014or \u20188\u201d on a good day\u2014white guy from Maine. You start being introduced to a different culture as you are watching the NBA players,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and that\u2019s where rap came from in your life?\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>And honestly, there were a number of movies that came out in the early \u201890s and that introduced me to West Coast rap culture; okay?\u2014just being totally honest here. So, I decided, when I went to college some years later, to try and start writing raps. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And so, we are six minutes into this broadcast\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and we are talking about your rap. No pressure, Owen, but this needs to be really good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Better be good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay, here we go: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0I\u2019ve got what\u2019s hidden,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Because it\u2019s optimism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0It\u2019s often missing \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd avoided like a logarithm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan\u2019t stop it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0You can drop it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Keep us locked in prison\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Not a cop by cop song to seek God within \u2018em.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere you go\u2014that\u2019s a little bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That was pretty legit\u2014that was okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you\u2014I mean, when you did that at college\u2014did people laugh at you; or did they go, \u201cWow!\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Kind of a blend, I would say. [Laughter]\u00a0 Some laughed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you have since gone on and recorded, actually, a rap CD?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Here is the story. In 2004, I recorded an actual rap CD. I was at Capitol Hill Baptist under Mark Dever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>There have since been a number of real rappers\u2014like Trip Lee and Shai Linne\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>\u2014who have gone on staff there. I was the first!\u00a0 I have had a little less success than those guys, but I recorded a CD in 2004. And I am recording one coming up soon. So, there will be an actual release in the next year. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s talk about\u2014I\u2019m wondering how to transition from that!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That was kind of a risky thing that just happened right here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was risky\u2014there you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was risky\u2014<em>Risky Gospel<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>It was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You believe that we, who are followers of Christ, get caught up in our fears, our doubts, our own lack of true biblical identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t step out and really trust the God of the universe to use us in a significant way in another person\u2019s life. One of the things you point out in your book is\u2014you point it out from the parable of the talents. Explain that parable and how that calls us to a risky faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I\u2019d love to. So, you have this parable\u2014this story of Jesus. It\u2019s not an actual, real life accounting, but it\u2019s of a master\u2014a great master\u2014who goes away on a long journey. While he is gone, he entrusts some of his property with his servants\u2014with three servants in particular. The first and second servants, who we meet in this parable in Matthew 25:14-30\u2014also in Luke\u2019s Gospel as well\u2014but the primary one I zero in on is Matthew. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first two servants go at once and make more talents\u2014this is the property they are given. It\u2019s the equivalent to a piece of property that would be worth about $60,000 today, perhaps\u2014something like this. So, they take this investment and they go and they make more talents from it. Then, there is a third servant we meet in the parable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis servant is afraid, and scared of the master, and lazy. That servant buries his talent in the ground. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen the master returns, he rewards the first and the second servants. The first one is especially faithful, and he made five talents. He was given five\u2014he made five more. The second servant has two, and he makes two more. And then, the third servant is cursed by the master\u2014who stands in for Almighty God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the message of the parable, basically, boiled down: \u201cWe have all been entrusted with certain gifts and abilities by the Lord. We should be working while there is day to give Him glory in our own life and our own sphere of influence. We are <em>not<\/em> called then to be afraid, and battened down, and scared. We are called to risk\u2014fundamentally, every Christian\u2014in their life.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if you take the gifting that God has given you \/ the abilities God has given you\u2014whatever He has entrusted to you\u2014and you bench it\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you just say: \u201cI\u2019m going to couch potato this. I\u2019m going to leave it over here. I\u2019m just not going to use that muscle because I\u2019ve got other things going on in my life. I\u2019m just going to leave that aside. I may get it out, from time to time, and use it a little bit here and a little bit there.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are saying that God would look at you, benching your giftedness, and He wouldn\u2019t just say, \u201cOh, you should have done better.\u201d\u00a0 He would pronounce a<em> judgment<\/em> against the guy who isn\u2019t fully-engaged. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s exactly right. That parable\u2014Matthew 25\u2014parable of the talents is <em>not<\/em> about, fundamentally, finding a good financial investment plan. It is not, fundamentally, about hearing, \u201cWell done, good and faithful servant,\u201d\u2014that is certainly the end \/ certainly, what we want to hear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the point of this parable is\u2014you are supposed to go all out\u2014full throttle for the glory of Jesus Christ\u2014every Christian. Again, like we talked about earlier\u2014not just Billy Graham, not just Chuck Colson, not just the great heroes of the faith \/ whoever your local church pastor is\u2014who is inclined to ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo\u2014every Christian, whether they are in vocational ministry or not, is called to use all their energies and all of their abilities for the glory of God and to give God more glory. That\u2019s the focus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Henry Blackaby wrote a Bible study, a number of years ago, called <em>Experiencing God<\/em>. In that Bible study, there was a phrase that really caught on within the Christian community\u2014that was \u201ca crisis of faith.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cBelievers face circumstances that will take their faith and test it to see if they will step up and believe.\u201d\u00a0 In your life, what would you say has been the biggest crisis of faith, where you have defeated fear and applied faith?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Well, in my role, as President of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood\u2014it\u2019s headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky \/ a friend to FamilyLife and other evangelical organizations over the years\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I have to regularly stand up and promote the biblical vision of gender roles\u2014so, calling men to be men and women to be women \/ calling men to be leaders in the church and the home and women to nurture, and support, and love that leadership. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI, furthermore, have the responsibility\u2014in the public square, to whatever degree I\u2019m in that conversation\u2014to contend for marriage \/ to contend for the goodness of manhood and womanhood\u2014not as changeable realities \/ not as matters that you just kind of pick and choose: \u201cOh, today, I feel like a man. Today, I feel like a woman.\u201d\u00a0 No, I am called in my role, as President of CBMW, to make the case for these things. That puts me in hot water regularly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been involved in numerous online debates, and controversies, and these sorts of things because of a matter of the truth. I\u2019ve taken a lot of heat for it. I\u2019ve gotten hate mail, and these sorts of things, and even a death threat or two. I\u2019ve really felt the <em>sting<\/em> of following of Jesus; but that is part of what it means, for me, to be faithful to Christ and to risk my comfort and security for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, when people ask you certain questions\u2014that if you answer with what you believe is true \/ with what you think the Bible says\u2014there will be people, who will hear what you say, who will be angered by what you do\u2014maybe angered to a point of acting on their anger in some way against you. You can see why people in that situation go, \u201cI\u2019m just going to try and soften this if I can,\u201d because nobody wants to provoke the anger of another person; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. The scariest thing I ever did\u2014what I just said is true and comes up regularly for me, especially in this contested, hostile public square like you\u2019re talking about, Bob\u2014but the scariest moment I ever had was at my secular college in Maine\u2014Bowdoin College. We had an assembly the day after 9\/11\/2001. This was college-wide opportunity to share your thoughts about 9\/11\u2014to process them, together, as a community. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere were probably\u2014most of the students on campus at this event\u20141,500\/1,600\u2014small college\u2014but that\u2019s a lot of people still. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Well, one guy got up and had us all sing <em>Kumbaya<\/em>\u2014just to give you a sense of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Seriously?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I\u2019m not kidding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong><em>Kumbaya<\/em>?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong><em>Kumbaya<\/em>\u2014joined hands and everything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I decided that I should, not just be at this event, but I should share the gospel. I should go up to the microphone\u2014there were mikes placed around the gym, where this was held\u2014and I should share gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How old were you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I was 20 years old. I had recently had the Lord get a hold of my heart and really seize me with a desire to be a witness for Him. I went up to the mike. The college president was looking at me\u2014a man who is, by no means, a Christian. This is a campus, where there are 25 students who will come to the only Christian group on campus\u2014InterVarsity Christian Fellowship\u201425 students out of 1,800 are coming; okay?\u2014so, incredibly secular\u2014ranked by <em>Princeton Review<\/em> as one of the most secular colleges in America. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was back when they would let the InterVarsity group on the campus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That is exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, they\u2019ve been chased off because they won\u2019t let gays and lesbians in leadership positions; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right\u2014this is high tide of tolerance at Bowdoin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI shared the gospel\u2014I didn\u2019t do it in a perfect way. I think I\u2019d probably put some things differently now. My legs were shaking \/ everybody was looking at me. The President was scowling at me\u2014I could literally see him doing that\u2014but I did the best I could, by the grace of God, and shared the gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s the kind of thing that Christians have to do, in whatever situation we find ourselves\u2014whether it\u2019s 1,500 or 2 people at the lunch room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And then, you had to face students, throughout the rest of the day, who were looking at you or\u2014I mean, did anybody come up and say, \u201cWay to go,\u201d other than the 25 who were meeting at your group?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Not everybody in my Christian group, surprisingly, liked what I did because they thought it was too aggressive; but here is the <em>shocking<\/em> thing\u2014I had two professors on this secular campus\u2014we couldn\u2019t find a single evangelical faculty member out of 170 or so faculty members\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not a single one who could be a part of the fellowship and give us a little guidance or whatever\u2014be a faculty liaison. But I had two professors, who were not Christians\u2014I knew that they weren\u2019t\u2014come up to me and commend me for speaking up \/ for courage. That has been a lesson for me since. I think that was God\u2019s common grace, working through them, to encourage me to keep giving testimony. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think\u2014and I want you to comment on this, Owen\u2014I think these are days when parents <em>must<\/em>\u2014I\u2019m going to repeat this\u2014<em>must<\/em>\u2014one more time\u2014<em>must<\/em> equip their children to know how to stand on behalf of their faith in Jesus Christ. If they don\u2019t teach them how to stand, and they go away to college to a school like you went to, they may wilt\u2014they may back-track on their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>They absolutely may\u2014and I saw it happen a good bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you should expect that if you are not actively equipping and training your children to be gospel agents in a fallen world\u2014that they will be seduced \/ they will be drawn away. I think that should be our active expectation. Tragically, that is not how many parents approach it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany parents think, \u201cI\u2019ll outsource the spiritual care to the local church\u2014great youth group \/ whatever, great programs, summer camp,\u201d\u2014these sorts of things. You know, <br>\u201cI\u2019ll be a good person and generally go to church,\u201d and this sort of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just give my assessment: I think the culture has changed altogether. It\u2019s going to swallow our children if we are not minute-by-minute shepherds and nurturers of our kids in the faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, actively training your kids to be gospel agents\u2014what does that look like at the Strachan home?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That\u2019s a great question. I\u2019m still figuring it out. I\u2019m a young husband and father. So, I don\u2019t do it perfectly; but what I\u2019m trying to do is, for example, is have nightly devotions on a regular basis. It doesn\u2019t happen every night with three tiny kids. We do well to have it some nights. But when we do, we talk through the Bible\u2014we talk through biblical teaching\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we\u2019ll talk through a little bit of biblical doctrine in a bite-sized form, while my five-month-old yips her way through it. And that\u2019s what we are doing. We are trying to give our kids the Christian worldview so that we\u2019re training them\u2014they are not being trained by the culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd God blesses that work\u2014day by day, week by week, month by month. That\u2019s the blessing of the family\u2014we have this opportunity to train them. We\u2019re not expecting someone else to come along and train them. I\u2019m their head\u2014I\u2019m the dad, I\u2019m the father, I\u2019m the shepherd of the home. I\u2019ve got to lead here, and my wife is a fantastic help in that respect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019ve got to be intentional. I know that people are going to some great churches today and some great youth groups\u2014but I\u2019m going to tell you something\u2014nothing is as powerful as a mom and a dad, who intentionally take their kids to the Scripture and teach them how to think <em>from<\/em> the Bible\u2014not think <em>to<\/em> the Bible. They need to build their lives <em>from<\/em> Scripture, making decisions according to Scripture, thinking about convictions in the culture\u2014about what the Bible teaches\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not how you can readjust what the Scriptures say to prove a new set of beliefs that you might find more culturally-acceptable with your peers. Parents have to imbue courage and conviction in their children\u2019s lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and this is a good place for us to plug a book that your father-in-law wrote\u2014 that I\u2019ve bet you\u2019ve used with your kids\u2014a book called <em>Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em> that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Are you kidding me?\u00a0 How can he say he\u2019s not using it\u2014on national radio?\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have this book in the <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. We\u2019ve made it available to <em>lots<\/em> of parents because it\u2019s one of those tools that a mom or a dad can use to help shape the thinking\u2014to help your kids become the gospel agents you are talking about. <br><br>I\u2019m thinking about the resources your wife, Barbara, has been creating that are designed to, not just beautify the home, but to be teaching tools for parents to use with their kids and to help disciple sons and daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The holidays\u2014most of our holidays have spiritual meaning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, that\u2019s what birthed those\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014holidays in the first place\u2014Thanksgiving\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014Christmas, Easter. Those are all great opportunities to take your kids to the Scriptures. I just talked to Barbara this morning, before I came to work, and was just talking with her about her dream and her vision to give practical tools, that are biblically anchored, but they\u2019re meaningful\u2014they\u2019re built around the traditions of these holidays and of families that can be passed on for future generations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Owen: <\/strong>We actually used her material on Thanksgiving last year and have found it tremendously helpful. Here is one quick thing I think we should say too: \u201cDo not hear us saying this and think, \u2018Uh-oh, I\u2019ve got to have MDiv in Theology and Bible\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>\u2014\u2018to do what these guys are talking about.\u2019 As a mom: \u2018Oh, I\u2019ve got these kids at home. Now, I\u2019ve got to figure out some way to do an online degree so that I can train them.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s great to get as much training as you can\u2014it\u2019s always going to help. Christians are not opposed to the life of the mind. We believe that God created the mind to know God\/to know His truth. But every father\/every mother does their children a tremendous service simply by opening the Scripture\u2014even if you just read the book of John to your kids or something\u2014or the book of Romans, as they get a little older, and you talk them through it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven if you did that\u2014if you read one of these books that they\u2019ve mentioned or J.I. Packer\u2019s <em>Knowing God<\/em>\u2014something like this\u2014you do not need a degree to train your kids in the Scripture. You may have other people come along\u2014youth ministers and pastors can be a tremendous help\u2014they are supposed to be. We\u2019re not against them, but you can start that process in the home in a very simple way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And there are listeners, right now, who are hearing you talk. They are feeling, in their chest, their heart swell and their faith grow; but they need the encouragement that a book like yours will give them. The book is the<em> Risky Gospel<\/em>. I would just commend this to our listeners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are raising the next generation of believers \/ the next brood of young people in your home, get this book. You and your spouse dig into it, talk about it, and talk about: \u201cHow are we being risky followers of Jesus Christ? Are we passing on a faith that is infectious? And if it is, is it the right kind of disease?\u201d\u2014alright?\u00a0 And this book will do that, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, it will. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com, click the link at the top of the page that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d and that takes you right to the area of the site where you can order a copy of Owen Strachan\u2019s book, <em>Risky Gospel<\/em>\u2014again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also mentioned the book, <em>Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em>. That\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Once again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d to find out how you can order a copy of that book\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, we talked about the resources your wife has been creating as discipleship tools to be used in the home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf folks would like to see more of what Barbara has been up to, they can go directly to EverThineHome.com and see the resources she\u2019s been working on this fall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, once again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com if you\u2019re interested in the books, <em>Risky Gospel <\/em>or<em> Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em>. Go to EverThineHome.com if you want to see all that Barbara Rainey has been working on this fall. Or, if you have any questions, call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know how often you stop to take inventory of the things you are thankful for. Our staff did that this morning. We got everybody together, and we took out 3x5 note cards and wrote down the things we are thankful for. It\u2019s a good spiritual discipline to reflect on the things you are grateful for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know one of the things that we are most thankful for, here at FamilyLife, is those of you who are partners with us in this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou share with us the burden to see every home a godly home\u2014to see husbands and wives equipped to have strong healthy marriages and to know how to raise the next generation of young people, who know Christ and who want to follow Him. We could not do what we do without your financial partnership. So, we are grateful for our Legacy Partners, for those of you who make yearend contributions to support this ministry, and those of you who just donate, from time to time, as God leads you. Thanks for supporting this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can make an online donation today by going to FamilyLifeToday.com and clicking the button at the top of the page that says, \u201cI Care.\u201d\u00a0 Or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make your donation over the phone. You can also mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Our mailing address is PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. When you get in touch with us, feel free to request, as a thank-you gift, a resource that Barbara Rainey has designed called \u201cUntie Your Story.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a spool of napkin wraps that have questions printed on them, designed to promote dinner table conversation. It\u2019s our way of saying: \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry. We do appreciate you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you\u2019ll join us back tomorrow as we continue our conversation with Owen Strachan about what it looks like to live a life that embraces a risky gospel. We\u2019ll talk more about that tomorrow. Hope you can join us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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Strachan opens the Bible to the Parable of the Talents explaining that the meaning of the parable isn't financial stewardship, but going all out for the glory of God.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-11-25.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The culture in which we live is not going to train your children to think biblically about issues; but, as parents, Owen Strachan says, \u201cYou can.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>When we are trying to give our kids the Christian worldview so that we are training them\u2014they are not being trained by the culture\u2014God blesses that work\u2014day by day, week by week, month by month. That\u2019s the blessing of the family\u2014we have this opportunity to train them. We\u2019re not expecting someone else to come along and train them. I\u2019m their head\u2014I\u2019m their dad, I\u2019m their father and the shepherd of the home. I\u2019ve got to lead here, and my wife is a fantastic help in that respect. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, November 25<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How do we train our children to think and to act Christianly?\u00a0 How do we point them toward the right mission?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about those things today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019ll never forget a conversation I had\u2014this was probably 15 years ago\u2014a guy, here at FamilyLife, came into my office one morning. He said: \u201cMy wife and I have decided that we\u2019re leaving staff. We are going to go to another city and plant a church.\u201d\u00a0 It took me by surprise. I didn\u2019t even know this was on his radar screen\u2014something he was thinking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here is the thing he said to me that stuck with me. He said, \u201cYou know,\u201d\u2014he said, \u201cI\u2019ve been in ministry for more than a decade now; but honestly, I haven\u2019t had to do anything that required faith in a long time.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI\u2019m doing good stuff, but I just hadn\u2019t had to do anything where I exercise my faith muscle.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cThis is going to require me to step out and exercise some faith.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I remember smiling and thinking, \u201cOkay, when was the last time I had to do anything that required some faith of me?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was proud of him for stepping out like he was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think the Christian life can\u2019t be lived without faith. In fact, Hebrews, Chapter 11, verse 6, says, \u201cAnd without faith, it is impossible to please God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And like I wrote a friend recently: \u201cSometimes, I wish it was a little easier to please God, where I didn\u2019t have this tension against the faith muscle that was constantly calling me in such a dependent way to say: \u2018God, if You don\u2019t show up, I\u2019m toast. If You don\u2019t help here\u2014if You\u2019re not in this, this is going to be a colossal failure.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a guest with us who, I think, believes that as well. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Risky Gospel<\/em>. Owen Strachan joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Thank you so much. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I promised our listeners yesterday\u2014you are a multi-gifted guy. You\u2019re a seminary professor\u2014teacher at Boyce College. You have been married to one woman, Bethany, for eight years\u2014three children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut on the side, you\u2019ve got this moonlight job that you kind of pride yourself in\u2014you\u2019re a rapper\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019ve just got to say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014a rapper from Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You are the least likely guy I know to do rap. 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This is just not rap\u2014if you are wearing a hat, it would be straight forward, not to the side\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Probably not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014unless it was a costume you were putting on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you just don\u2019t have the rap persona working for you. You know that; don\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, give it to us. Let\u2019s hear it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Before we hear it, why is this even in your repertoire?\u00a0 I mean, did you grow up listening to Eminem or what?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Genetic misfire, I don\u2019t know. I\u2019m not sure. [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure what accounts for this instinct. I grew up on the coast of Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCountry music dominated the scene, as you can imagine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Country music in Maine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Oh, it\u2019s big. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It is big. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes, I mean, I went to a high school where guys would show up for class in the morning with dead moose in the back of their truck\u2014I\u2019m not exaggerating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I can believe that. 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[Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He told the truth!\u00a0 I\u2019m just kind of astounded that they just found out about basketball in 1990 in Maine. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you are a 5\u20197\u201d\u2014or \u20188\u201d on a good day\u2014white guy from Maine. You start being introduced to a different culture as you are watching the NBA players,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and that\u2019s where rap came from in your life?\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>And honestly, there were a number of movies that came out in the early \u201890s and that introduced me to West Coast rap culture; okay?\u2014just being totally honest here. So, I decided, when I went to college some years later, to try and start writing raps. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And so, we are six minutes into this broadcast\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and we are talking about your rap. No pressure, Owen, but this needs to be really good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Better be good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Okay, here we go: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0I\u2019ve got what\u2019s hidden,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Because it\u2019s optimism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0It\u2019s often missing \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd avoided like a logarithm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan\u2019t stop it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0You can drop it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Keep us locked in prison\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u00a0Not a cop by cop song to seek God within \u2018em.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere you go\u2014that\u2019s a little bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That was pretty legit\u2014that was okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you\u2014I mean, when you did that at college\u2014did people laugh at you; or did they go, \u201cWow!\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Kind of a blend, I would say. [Laughter]\u00a0 Some laughed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you have since gone on and recorded, actually, a rap CD?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Here is the story. In 2004, I recorded an actual rap CD. I was at Capitol Hill Baptist under Mark Dever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>There have since been a number of real rappers\u2014like Trip Lee and Shai Linne\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>\u2014who have gone on staff there. I was the first!\u00a0 I have had a little less success than those guys, but I recorded a CD in 2004. And I am recording one coming up soon. So, there will be an actual release in the next year. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s talk about\u2014I\u2019m wondering how to transition from that!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That was kind of a risky thing that just happened right here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was risky\u2014there you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was risky\u2014<em>Risky Gospel<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>It was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You believe that we, who are followers of Christ, get caught up in our fears, our doubts, our own lack of true biblical identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t step out and really trust the God of the universe to use us in a significant way in another person\u2019s life. One of the things you point out in your book is\u2014you point it out from the parable of the talents. Explain that parable and how that calls us to a risky faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I\u2019d love to. So, you have this parable\u2014this story of Jesus. It\u2019s not an actual, real life accounting, but it\u2019s of a master\u2014a great master\u2014who goes away on a long journey. While he is gone, he entrusts some of his property with his servants\u2014with three servants in particular. The first and second servants, who we meet in this parable in Matthew 25:14-30\u2014also in Luke\u2019s Gospel as well\u2014but the primary one I zero in on is Matthew. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first two servants go at once and make more talents\u2014this is the property they are given. It\u2019s the equivalent to a piece of property that would be worth about $60,000 today, perhaps\u2014something like this. So, they take this investment and they go and they make more talents from it. Then, there is a third servant we meet in the parable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis servant is afraid, and scared of the master, and lazy. That servant buries his talent in the ground. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen the master returns, he rewards the first and the second servants. The first one is especially faithful, and he made five talents. He was given five\u2014he made five more. The second servant has two, and he makes two more. And then, the third servant is cursed by the master\u2014who stands in for Almighty God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the message of the parable, basically, boiled down: \u201cWe have all been entrusted with certain gifts and abilities by the Lord. We should be working while there is day to give Him glory in our own life and our own sphere of influence. We are <em>not<\/em> called then to be afraid, and battened down, and scared. We are called to risk\u2014fundamentally, every Christian\u2014in their life.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if you take the gifting that God has given you \/ the abilities God has given you\u2014whatever He has entrusted to you\u2014and you bench it\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you just say: \u201cI\u2019m going to couch potato this. I\u2019m going to leave it over here. I\u2019m just not going to use that muscle because I\u2019ve got other things going on in my life. I\u2019m just going to leave that aside. I may get it out, from time to time, and use it a little bit here and a little bit there.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are saying that God would look at you, benching your giftedness, and He wouldn\u2019t just say, \u201cOh, you should have done better.\u201d\u00a0 He would pronounce a<em> judgment<\/em> against the guy who isn\u2019t fully-engaged. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s exactly right. That parable\u2014Matthew 25\u2014parable of the talents is <em>not<\/em> about, fundamentally, finding a good financial investment plan. It is not, fundamentally, about hearing, \u201cWell done, good and faithful servant,\u201d\u2014that is certainly the end \/ certainly, what we want to hear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the point of this parable is\u2014you are supposed to go all out\u2014full throttle for the glory of Jesus Christ\u2014every Christian. Again, like we talked about earlier\u2014not just Billy Graham, not just Chuck Colson, not just the great heroes of the faith \/ whoever your local church pastor is\u2014who is inclined to ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo\u2014every Christian, whether they are in vocational ministry or not, is called to use all their energies and all of their abilities for the glory of God and to give God more glory. That\u2019s the focus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Henry Blackaby wrote a Bible study, a number of years ago, called <em>Experiencing God<\/em>. In that Bible study, there was a phrase that really caught on within the Christian community\u2014that was \u201ca crisis of faith.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cBelievers face circumstances that will take their faith and test it to see if they will step up and believe.\u201d\u00a0 In your life, what would you say has been the biggest crisis of faith, where you have defeated fear and applied faith?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Well, in my role, as President of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood\u2014it\u2019s headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky \/ a friend to FamilyLife and other evangelical organizations over the years\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I have to regularly stand up and promote the biblical vision of gender roles\u2014so, calling men to be men and women to be women \/ calling men to be leaders in the church and the home and women to nurture, and support, and love that leadership. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI, furthermore, have the responsibility\u2014in the public square, to whatever degree I\u2019m in that conversation\u2014to contend for marriage \/ to contend for the goodness of manhood and womanhood\u2014not as changeable realities \/ not as matters that you just kind of pick and choose: \u201cOh, today, I feel like a man. Today, I feel like a woman.\u201d\u00a0 No, I am called in my role, as President of CBMW, to make the case for these things. That puts me in hot water regularly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been involved in numerous online debates, and controversies, and these sorts of things because of a matter of the truth. I\u2019ve taken a lot of heat for it. I\u2019ve gotten hate mail, and these sorts of things, and even a death threat or two. I\u2019ve really felt the <em>sting<\/em> of following of Jesus; but that is part of what it means, for me, to be faithful to Christ and to risk my comfort and security for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, when people ask you certain questions\u2014that if you answer with what you believe is true \/ with what you think the Bible says\u2014there will be people, who will hear what you say, who will be angered by what you do\u2014maybe angered to a point of acting on their anger in some way against you. You can see why people in that situation go, \u201cI\u2019m just going to try and soften this if I can,\u201d because nobody wants to provoke the anger of another person; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. The scariest thing I ever did\u2014what I just said is true and comes up regularly for me, especially in this contested, hostile public square like you\u2019re talking about, Bob\u2014but the scariest moment I ever had was at my secular college in Maine\u2014Bowdoin College. We had an assembly the day after 9\/11\/2001. This was college-wide opportunity to share your thoughts about 9\/11\u2014to process them, together, as a community. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere were probably\u2014most of the students on campus at this event\u20141,500\/1,600\u2014small college\u2014but that\u2019s a lot of people still. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Well, one guy got up and had us all sing <em>Kumbaya<\/em>\u2014just to give you a sense of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Seriously?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I\u2019m not kidding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong><em>Kumbaya<\/em>?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong><em>Kumbaya<\/em>\u2014joined hands and everything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I decided that I should, not just be at this event, but I should share the gospel. I should go up to the microphone\u2014there were mikes placed around the gym, where this was held\u2014and I should share gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How old were you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>I was 20 years old. I had recently had the Lord get a hold of my heart and really seize me with a desire to be a witness for Him. I went up to the mike. The college president was looking at me\u2014a man who is, by no means, a Christian. This is a campus, where there are 25 students who will come to the only Christian group on campus\u2014InterVarsity Christian Fellowship\u201425 students out of 1,800 are coming; okay?\u2014so, incredibly secular\u2014ranked by <em>Princeton Review<\/em> as one of the most secular colleges in America. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That was back when they would let the InterVarsity group on the campus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That is exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, they\u2019ve been chased off because they won\u2019t let gays and lesbians in leadership positions; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right\u2014this is high tide of tolerance at Bowdoin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI shared the gospel\u2014I didn\u2019t do it in a perfect way. I think I\u2019d probably put some things differently now. My legs were shaking \/ everybody was looking at me. The President was scowling at me\u2014I could literally see him doing that\u2014but I did the best I could, by the grace of God, and shared the gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s the kind of thing that Christians have to do, in whatever situation we find ourselves\u2014whether it\u2019s 1,500 or 2 people at the lunch room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And then, you had to face students, throughout the rest of the day, who were looking at you or\u2014I mean, did anybody come up and say, \u201cWay to go,\u201d other than the 25 who were meeting at your group?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Not everybody in my Christian group, surprisingly, liked what I did because they thought it was too aggressive; but here is the <em>shocking<\/em> thing\u2014I had two professors on this secular campus\u2014we couldn\u2019t find a single evangelical faculty member out of 170 or so faculty members\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not a single one who could be a part of the fellowship and give us a little guidance or whatever\u2014be a faculty liaison. But I had two professors, who were not Christians\u2014I knew that they weren\u2019t\u2014come up to me and commend me for speaking up \/ for courage. That has been a lesson for me since. I think that was God\u2019s common grace, working through them, to encourage me to keep giving testimony. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think\u2014and I want you to comment on this, Owen\u2014I think these are days when parents <em>must<\/em>\u2014I\u2019m going to repeat this\u2014<em>must<\/em>\u2014one more time\u2014<em>must<\/em> equip their children to know how to stand on behalf of their faith in Jesus Christ. If they don\u2019t teach them how to stand, and they go away to college to a school like you went to, they may wilt\u2014they may back-track on their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>They absolutely may\u2014and I saw it happen a good bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you should expect that if you are not actively equipping and training your children to be gospel agents in a fallen world\u2014that they will be seduced \/ they will be drawn away. I think that should be our active expectation. Tragically, that is not how many parents approach it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany parents think, \u201cI\u2019ll outsource the spiritual care to the local church\u2014great youth group \/ whatever, great programs, summer camp,\u201d\u2014these sorts of things. You know, <br>\u201cI\u2019ll be a good person and generally go to church,\u201d and this sort of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just give my assessment: I think the culture has changed altogether. It\u2019s going to swallow our children if we are not minute-by-minute shepherds and nurturers of our kids in the faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, actively training your kids to be gospel agents\u2014what does that look like at the Strachan home?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>That\u2019s a great question. I\u2019m still figuring it out. I\u2019m a young husband and father. So, I don\u2019t do it perfectly; but what I\u2019m trying to do is, for example, is have nightly devotions on a regular basis. It doesn\u2019t happen every night with three tiny kids. We do well to have it some nights. But when we do, we talk through the Bible\u2014we talk through biblical teaching\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we\u2019ll talk through a little bit of biblical doctrine in a bite-sized form, while my five-month-old yips her way through it. And that\u2019s what we are doing. We are trying to give our kids the Christian worldview so that we\u2019re training them\u2014they are not being trained by the culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd God blesses that work\u2014day by day, week by week, month by month. That\u2019s the blessing of the family\u2014we have this opportunity to train them. We\u2019re not expecting someone else to come along and train them. I\u2019m their head\u2014I\u2019m the dad, I\u2019m the father, I\u2019m the shepherd of the home. I\u2019ve got to lead here, and my wife is a fantastic help in that respect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019ve got to be intentional. I know that people are going to some great churches today and some great youth groups\u2014but I\u2019m going to tell you something\u2014nothing is as powerful as a mom and a dad, who intentionally take their kids to the Scripture and teach them how to think <em>from<\/em> the Bible\u2014not think <em>to<\/em> the Bible. They need to build their lives <em>from<\/em> Scripture, making decisions according to Scripture, thinking about convictions in the culture\u2014about what the Bible teaches\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not how you can readjust what the Scriptures say to prove a new set of beliefs that you might find more culturally-acceptable with your peers. Parents have to imbue courage and conviction in their children\u2019s lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and this is a good place for us to plug a book that your father-in-law wrote\u2014 that I\u2019ve bet you\u2019ve used with your kids\u2014a book called <em>Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em> that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Are you kidding me?\u00a0 How can he say he\u2019s not using it\u2014on national radio?\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have this book in the <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. We\u2019ve made it available to <em>lots<\/em> of parents because it\u2019s one of those tools that a mom or a dad can use to help shape the thinking\u2014to help your kids become the gospel agents you are talking about. <br><br>I\u2019m thinking about the resources your wife, Barbara, has been creating that are designed to, not just beautify the home, but to be teaching tools for parents to use with their kids and to help disciple sons and daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The holidays\u2014most of our holidays have spiritual meaning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, that\u2019s what birthed those\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014holidays in the first place\u2014Thanksgiving\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014Christmas, Easter. Those are all great opportunities to take your kids to the Scriptures. I just talked to Barbara this morning, before I came to work, and was just talking with her about her dream and her vision to give practical tools, that are biblically anchored, but they\u2019re meaningful\u2014they\u2019re built around the traditions of these holidays and of families that can be passed on for future generations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Owen: <\/strong>We actually used her material on Thanksgiving last year and have found it tremendously helpful. Here is one quick thing I think we should say too: \u201cDo not hear us saying this and think, \u2018Uh-oh, I\u2019ve got to have MDiv in Theology and Bible\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Owen: <\/strong>\u2014\u2018to do what these guys are talking about.\u2019 As a mom: \u2018Oh, I\u2019ve got these kids at home. Now, I\u2019ve got to figure out some way to do an online degree so that I can train them.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s great to get as much training as you can\u2014it\u2019s always going to help. Christians are not opposed to the life of the mind. We believe that God created the mind to know God\/to know His truth. But every father\/every mother does their children a tremendous service simply by opening the Scripture\u2014even if you just read the book of John to your kids or something\u2014or the book of Romans, as they get a little older, and you talk them through it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven if you did that\u2014if you read one of these books that they\u2019ve mentioned or J.I. Packer\u2019s <em>Knowing God<\/em>\u2014something like this\u2014you do not need a degree to train your kids in the Scripture. You may have other people come along\u2014youth ministers and pastors can be a tremendous help\u2014they are supposed to be. We\u2019re not against them, but you can start that process in the home in a very simple way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And there are listeners, right now, who are hearing you talk. They are feeling, in their chest, their heart swell and their faith grow; but they need the encouragement that a book like yours will give them. The book is the<em> Risky Gospel<\/em>. I would just commend this to our listeners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are raising the next generation of believers \/ the next brood of young people in your home, get this book. You and your spouse dig into it, talk about it, and talk about: \u201cHow are we being risky followers of Jesus Christ? Are we passing on a faith that is infectious? And if it is, is it the right kind of disease?\u201d\u2014alright?\u00a0 And this book will do that, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, it will. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com, click the link at the top of the page that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d and that takes you right to the area of the site where you can order a copy of Owen Strachan\u2019s book, <em>Risky Gospel<\/em>\u2014again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also mentioned the book, <em>Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em>. That\u2019s available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Once again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d to find out how you can order a copy of that book\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, we talked about the resources your wife has been creating as discipleship tools to be used in the home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf folks would like to see more of what Barbara has been up to, they can go directly to EverThineHome.com and see the resources she\u2019s been working on this fall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, once again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com if you\u2019re interested in the books, <em>Risky Gospel <\/em>or<em> Big Truths for Young Hearts<\/em>. Go to EverThineHome.com if you want to see all that Barbara Rainey has been working on this fall. Or, if you have any questions, call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know how often you stop to take inventory of the things you are thankful for. Our staff did that this morning. We got everybody together, and we took out 3x5 note cards and wrote down the things we are thankful for. It\u2019s a good spiritual discipline to reflect on the things you are grateful for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know one of the things that we are most thankful for, here at FamilyLife, is those of you who are partners with us in this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou share with us the burden to see every home a godly home\u2014to see husbands and wives equipped to have strong healthy marriages and to know how to raise the next generation of young people, who know Christ and who want to follow Him. We could not do what we do without your financial partnership. So, we are grateful for our Legacy Partners, for those of you who make yearend contributions to support this ministry, and those of you who just donate, from time to time, as God leads you. Thanks for supporting this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can make an online donation today by going to FamilyLifeToday.com and clicking the button at the top of the page that says, \u201cI Care.\u201d\u00a0 Or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make your donation over the phone. You can also mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Our mailing address is PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. When you get in touch with us, feel free to request, as a thank-you gift, a resource that Barbara Rainey has designed called \u201cUntie Your Story.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a spool of napkin wraps that have questions printed on them, designed to promote dinner table conversation. It\u2019s our way of saying: \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry. We do appreciate you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you\u2019ll join us back tomorrow as we continue our conversation with Owen Strachan about what it looks like to live a life that embraces a risky gospel. We\u2019ll talk more about that tomorrow. Hope you can join us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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