{"id":303231,"date":"2014-10-15T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-15T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/loving-in-the-crucible\/"},"modified":"2014-10-15T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-15T15:00:00","slug":"loving-in-the-crucible","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/loving-in-the-crucible\/","title":{"rendered":"Loving in the Crucible"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Miller teaches about love from the Book of Ruth. 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Ruth goes the distance to care for Naomi, and that's what we must do if we are to love like Christ does.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-10-15.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Whether we like it or not, learning to love is going to involve suffering. Here\u2019s author, Paul Miller.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Down there, in the crucible, is where you get to know God. If you don\u2019t give into bitterness \/ if you <em>receive <\/em>what the Father has given you in this hard thing\u2014whether it\u2019s a difficult spouse, or a disabled child, or a difficult boss\u2014if you receive that, as from the Father, then you meet and get to know God in ways that you\u2019ve never imagined.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, October 15<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk today about how we learn to love, even if we get no love in return. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We have added a chair in the studio for this part of our program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s a true radio professional. Kim Miller has already been on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>a number of years ago. We welcome you to the broadcast, Kim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Kim, what do you want to say?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Hello.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There we go! Now, we should explain that that was not Kim\u2019s voice we heard; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim\u2019s dad, Paul Miller, joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Paul is an author and a speaker. He and his wife Jill have six children and 9.3 grandchildren. Kim is one of the six children\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014who has taught you how to love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you\u2019ve written a book called <em>The Loving Life.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim! [Laughter]\u00a0 Explain to us whose voice that is we\u2019re hearing, Paul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Well, that\u2019s the voice of a speech computer that has 128 keys on it that has all of these icon combinations that Kim puts together to get the speech computer to say what she wants.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The synthesizer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Kim is\u2014she\u2019s in her early 30s\u2014is that what you said?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, she\u2019s 32. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Thirty-two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There we go. Thank you. Explain to everybody: \u201cWhat is her physical condition?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Well, Kim struggles a little bit with autism; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Just development delay\u2014fine motor skills are hard for us \/ speaking is hard\u2014right, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve written a book, Paul. We wanted to bring Kim in because you\u2019ve learned how to love in the midst of doing life. Your book is from the book of Ruth in the Old Testament.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you\u2019re talking about how we ultimately learn how to love by embracing the crucible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Embracing the suffering\u2014Kim\u2019s nodding her head right now\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that God brings into our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It is embracing Christ in the suffering. That\u2019s when Christ comes alive. Instead of pushing it away and saying, \u201cGod, this is what You\u2019ve brought into my life.\u201d It\u2019s actually kind of a <em>fellowship<\/em> of sharing in Christ\u2019s suffering\u2014not kind of\u2014but it really is. What it does is\u2014to make present the gospel in your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay, so take us to the time when you and Jill found out that Kim was going to have some special needs. Let\u2019s talk about how you embraced that when you found that out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> You know, that took <em>years<\/em> to absorb that. I mean, for Jill\u2014I would love to have Jill say it in her own words\u2014but she remembers a day when she began to close her eyes\u2014probably when Kim was about one year old. Every day, she would close her eyes, and walk up to the foot of Calvary, and lay Kim down, and turn and walk away\u2014just that ongoing surrender. You know\u2014a lot of these crucibles\u2014what makes them a crucible is that they don\u2019t go away. They are suffering. You know, life doesn\u2019t turn out as planned. It ends up not being the Disney story that we thought it was going to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And a lot of people will hear you describe that process\u2014that Jill went through and how the two of you processed all of this\u2014and they\u2019ll say, \u201cSo what you\u2019re telling me is you just need to kind of turn it over to God and put the best face on it and move on.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> No, that\u2019s what people often are tempted to do; but that\u2019s actually Greek stoicism, where you just kind of buck-up. What it is\u2014there are so many sides to this kind of love\u2014but, partly, it\u2019s just being honest about how difficult something like this is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you see in Naomi and what you see in all people who really become\u2014I like to use the word \u201clovers,\u201d even though it gets abused\u2014what you see in people, who really develop enormous capacities for love, is they hang in there for long periods of time. Obviously, you cannot do it in your own strength. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> A lot of folks don\u2019t know who Naomi is\u2014they don\u2019t know the story of Ruth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Can you just really quickly tell that story?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Well, Naomi has lost her husband and her two sons in a foreign land. She has concluded that God is against her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, even though she has concluded that God is against her and is really overwhelmed with bitterness, she does the right thing. She puts one foot in front of her and returns to the Promised Land, which is her city of Bethlehem, even though every part of her is screaming, \u201cThere\u2019s no point to life anymore.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, of course, in the book itself, God sends Ruth, who binds herself to Naomi in <em>hesed<\/em> love. Then Ruth ends up meeting Boaz, and they get married. The whole book is a true death\/resurrection story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And <em>hesed<\/em> love, in its essence, is a commitment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> It\u2019s a commitment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It says, \u201cI\u2019m hanging in there, and I\u2019m pressing into both the challenges and the person of Jesus Christ.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim, I have a question for you. Would you say that your life has been easy or hard?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Hard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s been hard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow have you learned to find joy and to find love in the middle of a hard life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I love to see movies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You love to see movies? In those stories in the movies, you find joy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. There is something about seeing stories\u2014about seeing how other people go through\u2014Paul, what you call \u201cthe J-curve,\u201d which is that curve of going from happiness to sadness to happiness again. We see that lived out in the lives of others and that can point us in the right direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Right, that\u2019s correct. And if Kim and I can tell a story together on just how the J-curve operates.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> This goes back a couple of years, but it was Mother\u2019s Day. I thought, \u201cI\u2019ll give Jill a break, and I\u2019ll take Kim with me on a speaking trip to Florida.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Mother\u2019s Day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And what were we going to do in Florida, Kim? What was our plan\u2014to go to what park?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Disney.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. So, I packed my bag. I guess Mom helped you pack your bag. I had to bring a box down\u2014that we wrote the name of our organization on\u2014it\u2019s seeJesus<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> And we got to long-term parking in the Philadelphia airport. The first thing you did was\u2014you did what, as soon as we got out of the car, Kim, what did you do? I saw you rumbling\u2014you looked through your bag\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Find.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> You looked for your book. And did you find your book?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> So what did you start to do, right there, in the parking lot?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Complained. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> You complained. [Laughter]\u00a0 So, poor Dad\u2014at least, that was what I was thinking. I had two suitcases; and I was carrying this big box that says, \u201cseeJesus\u201d; and you\u2019re complaining \/ I am kind of towing you along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe make our way over to the bus stall, and there are about 15 people there. You\u2019re complaining in front of all these 15 people. Then the bus came\u2014all of the people got on the bus. I thought, \u201cHow am I going to not be separated from Kim and the luggage?\u201d So, I put Kim on the bus first and then pulled the luggage up, a piece at a time. Then, what did the bus driver do while I was trying to get the luggage on the bus, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Bus driver shut the door.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> He shut the door on me. So, Kim has been complaining all this time. What did you do, at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Laugh. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She thought it was funny!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, she thought it was funny. So, the complaining stopped because I am close to death, with all of these boxes coming, crushing down on me. You think that\u2019s pretty funny\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> \u2014because it reminds you, probably,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She\u2019s still laughing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She\u2019s still laughing, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> She\u2019s still laughing today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She\u2019s got a big grin on her face. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes. So, we got to Terminal C\u2014US Airways\u2014and we go in. What did we see in the terminal, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Many people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> <em>Many people<\/em>, yes. I thought, \u201cOh, no! I have to do all of this as a carry on.\u201d We went upstairs to security. As soon as we got upstairs to security, what did they do, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Do you remember what they did, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Close.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, they closed one of the two lines. All of a sudden, our line became twice as long. You were doing what now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Complained.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, because you <em>hate <\/em>waiting. I mean\u2014it\u2019s just really hard for you. So you were complaining pretty loudly. Then we get to the place\u2014the conveyor belt. The man said to put your speech computer on. You said what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It is my voice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, \u201cIt is my voice.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cYou can\u2019t have that\u2014put that in the machine.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, [Laughter] so she starts arguing with this transportation security official. Not wanting to get arrested, I ripped the speech computer out of Kim\u2019s hand \/ put it on the conveyor belt. We got through. Then this guard decided to really make a close inspection of my box.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> I\u2019m as nervous as Don Knots, at this point, about missing our flight; right Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got a seminar to go to, and all kinds of stuff is going on. Then, I discovered that we were in the <em>wrong<\/em> <em>terminal<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Ohhh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> We had to get to Terminal B \/ we were in C. I threw myself in front of one of these little guys with the carts and begged. Kim thinks it\u2019s hilarious. [Laughter] She knows what\u2019s coming next. Then the guy rescued us\u2014he let us on. Then, we take off. As soon as we head into the top of B terminal, what do we get behind, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> A man doing what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Talking\u2014phone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> A man talking on his cell phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe couldn\u2019t hear us\u2014we were beeping behind him. Now, Dad\u2019s getting irritated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> And you started laughing because you thought it was funny that Dad was irritated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Laugh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> All down this long ramp, the man is going, \u201cLa de da de da de da.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe finally get to the gate\u2014we just make it in time. Then we get on the plane, and you\u2019re all electronized with your book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> The stewardess comes by and says, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to turn off your devices.\u201d What did you tell the stewardess, Kim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> You started arguing with the stewardess. [Laughter] She\u2019s not going to turn off any of her devices. [Laughter] Then the pilot said there were 12 planes ahead of us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> When you heard that, with all of your electronic devices shut off, you had a meltdown. Do you remember that, Kim?\u2014you got really upset. I said to myself, \u201cI will <em>never <\/em>do this again.\u201d I tried to say, \u201cWe\u2019re not going to do Disney\u201d; but that was the whole point; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> I said, \u201cI will <em>never<\/em> do this again.\u201d\u00a0 There were just <em>so<\/em> many things, as I reflected on that day. I thought: \u201cYou know what? It is actually what love is like.\u201d The very structure of love is\u2014you take the weight of someone else\u2019s life onto you. We recoil from the structure of love, but that\u2019s exactly what love is. I mean, Jesus takes the weight of our sin on Himself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Just giving Jill a Mother\u2019s Day off\u2014the weight of her life came on me. I was recoiling from the work of love, but that was exactly what it was\u2014it was just love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that God does for us, at the bottom of the J-Curve that we were talking about\u2014this pattern of Jesus\u2019 life\u2014of His life, death, and resurrection\u2014is that\u2019s where He runs our ego through a shredder. I thought, \u201cThe next day, I\u2019m going to be speaking to a lot of people, who are going to be listening to my every word.\u201d I was actually ashamed of myself, as I was in front of those other crowds, worried about how I looked\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that God was giving me the gift of humility to balance out even the ego\u2014and not necessarily bad ego\u2014but the inflated self that can come. It was actually a gift to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Paul, I have to imagine that a lot of the lessons you\u2019ve learned about love\u2014we\u2019ve talked about learning them in the context of marriage, but I have to think that God has used Kim\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014as maybe the greatest instrument in your life to teach you what a loving life looks like.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And the reason is that it\u2019s been hard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s kind of like pressure makes a diamond. When we\u2019re in this crucible of \u201chard,\u201d God\u2019s at work; isn\u2019t He?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Down there, in the crucible, is where you get to know God if you don\u2019t give into bitterness \/ if you <em>receive<\/em> what the Father has given you in this hard thing\u2014whether it\u2019s a difficult spouse, or a disabled child, or a difficult boss\u2014if you <em>receive<\/em> that, as from the Father, then you meet and get to know God in ways that you\u2019ve never imagined. You begin to pick up the cadence of Jesus. He becomes almost <em>physically<\/em> tangible to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s just a quick story\u2014just from the work side \/ on the ministry side. I was at a conference, speaking. It had about 500 people at it, and we had roving mics. There was one person in the seminar\u2014when I would ask questions, who kept saying a lot of stuff. It really didn\u2019t connect too much with what I was asking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> The pastor came up to me at the end of Friday night and said, \u201cPaul, I\u2019ve talked to that person, and you won\u2019t have that problem again.\u201d I thanked him for it because that was a helpful thing to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I said, \u201cIt\u2019s not the worst thing in the world; in fact, it\u2019s a good thing for 499 people to see me being patient with a slightly troubled person,\u201d because, by my seminar being mildly ruined, I get to display Christ\u2014it\u2019s an <em>entirely <\/em>different way of looking at life. What we tend to do is look for the perfection of the seminar; but what Christ wants to find is the perfection of the image of His Son in me so that, then, God becomes present, as we begin to see the beauty of Christ emerge in the church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How do you think you and Jill would be different people today if God had not put Kimmy in your life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> I can\u2019t even imagine it\u2014she\u2019s God\u2019s best gift to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In what way? Give me a tangible way you\u2019re a different man today because of her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Because when you say that, you know that people think that\u2019s the right Christian answer to say\u2014is that she\u2019s God\u2019s gift. But you say it with sincerity; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Oh, yes. One of the stories I remember was when I was working at the Independence National Park\u2014the national park downtown. A homeless man\u2014he was drunk\u2014came up to me and this other coworker. He barely got his words out\u2014I just kind of dismissed him. My friend, whom I\u2019m not even sure was a believer, listened to the guy\u2014found out what he wanted. Afterwards, turned to me and said, \u201cWhy did you treat him that way?\u201d I mean, I was doing the <em>opposite<\/em> of Jesus, looking in compassion. That\u2019s what I mean by that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Your eyesight is better\u2014you\u2019re saying.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> We see much better; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You see people for who they are\u2014image-bearers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re a little more patient.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You listen better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Your assignment is to love them, in the moment, regardless of the circumstances.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to read a passage of Scripture. Then, I want you to just help conclude our broadcast because this is what you\u2019ve been talking about all this week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s found in 1 Peter, Chapter 4, verse 12: \u201cBeloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you as though\u201d\u2014and this is the part I always smile about\u2014\u201cas though something strange were happening to you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In other words, we\u2019re to expect trials\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014not to be surprised by trials\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because trials come with an assignment; don\u2019t they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It goes on to say, \u201cBut rejoice in so far as you share Christ\u2019s sufferings that you may also rejoice and be glad when His glory is revealed.\u201d That\u2019s what it\u2019s about; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> You begin to taste downpayments of that glory, even in the bottom of the crucible, as people begin to see the beauty of Christ emerge out of you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re saying you\u2019ve tasted glory\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014through a daughter, who\u2019s 30-plus years old\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014in loving her, being patient with her, humbling yourself to care for her\u2014giving, giving, giving\u2014and not quitting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And to that person, who\u2019s got an assignment, right now\u2014that may not be packaged just like this was packaged for you and Jill\u2014what would you say to him or her\u2014who is finding circumstances unbearable?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Hang in there\u2014resurrection is coming. You don\u2019t know the timing or the shape of the resurrection; but you can begin to <em>taste<\/em> the resurrection, even as you begin to <em>surrender<\/em> to the path that God has put you on, because, immediately, a joy begins to well up in your heart as you stop fighting the world that God has put you in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Barbara and I have\u2014and I don\u2019t know why, Paul\u2014but for some reason, in recent days, we\u2019re talking a lot about the second coming\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that Jesus is coming back\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and the hope of that and how we ought to be living in light of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I\u2019ll tell you\u2014it\u2019s been a while since we\u2019ve had any length of time where we\u2019ve talked about it as much as we have in the last month. It\u2019s been refreshing because it reminds us that this is temporal\u2014that this is not the ultimate. Oh, my goodness! If this was the ultimate, how sad would that be?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But there is a place that He is preparing for us that we might see Him, as He is, without any hindrance. We would find ourselves stripped of ego, of flesh, of selfishness\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and be able to enter into the presence of true joy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In the midst of the hard parts of life, we could either resist and kick against the goad\u2014which is what Jesus said to Paul: \u201cWhy are you kicking against the goad? Why are you resisting my direction for you?\u201d\u2014or you can embrace it and, in the process, the diamond of love begins to be cultivated in your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Yes, amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Paul, you\u2019ve taken your journey \/ your life and you\u2019ve done a great job of writing about it. I appreciate your gift, and also standing firm on the Scriptures, and staying true to the truth of God\u2019s Word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Thanks for being on the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Paul:<\/strong> It\u2019s great to be with you guys.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And thanks for bringing Kim along with you today as well. We hope that a lot of our listeners will get a copy of your book, which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. It\u2019s called <em>A Loving Life<\/em>. \u201cHow do you love with no love in return?\u201d and \u201cHow do you love when no one notices or cares?\u201d You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy of the book; or you can call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d We can get Paul\u2019s book sent to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI also want to draw attention to the resource that Barbara Rainey has created on the subject of love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a garland that can hang in your home\u2014a chain garland that\u2019s got little clothes pins on it and you attach to it some hearts. Each heart has a different characteristic of love. On the inside, there\u2019s a devotional that explains what it means that love is patient or love is not arrogant or rude. These are the different aspects of love that you can use for family devotions\u2014just hang the garland in your dining area or in one of the kids\u2019 bedrooms\u2014and pull down a heart and read a different devotion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFind out more about the resource that Barbara calls \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d It\u2019s in the Ever Thine Home<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> collection. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link at the top of the page that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d There\u2019s information about Paul Miller\u2019s book there and about the \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d garland. You can order from us, online, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I kept thinking today about Steven Curtis Chapman\u2019s song<em>, It\u2019s All about Love<\/em>. Really, it is all about love. Jesus was asked, \u201cWhat\u2019s the greatest commandment?\u201d He said, \u201cIt\u2019s loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength; and the second is like unto it: Love your neighbor as yourself.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, He said, \u201cAll of the Old Testament\u2014all of the Law and the Prophets\u2014can be summed up in these two commandments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere, at FamilyLife, we\u2019re committed to love being at the center of every home. We want to effectively develop godly families who change the world, one home at a time. Our conviction is that, when our relationship with God is what it ought to be, that\u2019s going to spill out and spill over into our relationships in our marriages and in our families. So, this daily radio program is coaching you, every day, on how you can grow in godliness in the relationships that matter most\u2014your relationship with God and your relationships with the members of your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to thank those of you who stand with us to make this radio program possible. We appreciate your support. We are listener-supported; and without your donations, we could not continue this daily work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re seeing God use it in some very remarkable ways. You are helping us expand this ministry as you support <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help with a donation, right now, we\u2019d like to express our thanks by sending you a resource that Barbara Rainey has created as part of her Ever Thine Home collection. It\u2019s a chalkboard that says, \u201cIn this home we give thanks for\u201d and then there\u2019s a place on it where you can write in the things you give thanks for. It\u2019s in the shape of a house, and you can put it up in the dining area or wherever the family hangs out. Each day, have somebody write something new on the chalkboard\u2014something you\u2019re thankful for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe chalkboard is our thank-you gift to you when you support us. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper right-hand corner of your screen that says, \u201cI Care.\u201d Request the chalkboard when you make an online donation at FamilyLifeToday.com or when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation over the phone. Or you can request the chalkboard when you send a donation to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn this house, we give thanks for you. Thank you for your support of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to have a couple of guys join us\u2014Gerald Hiestand and Jay Thomas. We\u2019re going to talk about dating and relationships in our culture today and see if we can think a little more biblically about that subject. 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