{"id":303215,"date":"2014-10-02T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-02T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/what-should-a-wedding-be\/"},"modified":"2014-10-02T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-02T15:00:00","slug":"what-should-a-wedding-be","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-should-a-wedding-be\/","title":{"rendered":"What Should a Wedding Be?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Catherine Strode Parks and her mother, Linda Strode, talk about the Christ-centered wedding &#8211; a wedding that reflects the gospel to all in attendance.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-10-02.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"23.82M","filesize_raw":"24972222","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2807],"tags":[4294,4159,4861,5454,5453,4207],"podcast_series":[7196],"cwp_profile":[3164,8817],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303215","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-engagements-and-weddings","tag-family","tag-gospel","tag-in-laws","tag-meaningful","tag-mother-daughter-relationship","tag-wedding","podcast_series-a-christ-centered-wedding","cwp_profile-catherine-strode-parks","cwp_profile-linda-strode","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303215\/what-should-a-wedding-be","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303215\/what-should-a-wedding-be","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZClEK11Mj2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-should-a-wedding-be\/\">What Should a Wedding Be?<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-should-a-wedding-be\/embed\/#?secret=ZClEK11Mj2\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;What Should a Wedding Be?&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"ZClEK11Mj2\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Catherine Parks says, \u201cThere is a difference between something being significant and something being extravagant.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>You know, some people say: \u201cWe just need to simplify our weddings. We don\u2019t need to spend money on them. Let\u2019s just tone everything down.\u201d I understand that, but I think that\u2019s a reaction that maybe denies the importance of the wedding itself. I think we still need to focus on the wedding as being important but for the right reason. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, October 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk today about how to make a wedding a worship service. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you cheat on my notes, Bob, and see how much a wedding costs today?\u00a0 Did you see it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I did not cheat. I did not look at your notes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, you remember a few years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe did a number of broadcasts around weddings\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and having a Christian wedding\u2014and what it costs to put on a wedding. Do you remember?\u00a0 It was about $18,000. That may have been what?\u2014a decade ago?\u2014maybe 15 years ago?\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>The last number I saw\u2014because I did look at this a while back\u2014and it was $24,000, at that point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay, what do you think it is today?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2014it cannot have gone much beyond that because nobody has that kind of money anymore!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 How much\u2014what are they spending?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, this is not about how much money you have. This is about a dream\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014that young lady and her mother have been thinking about for centuries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, how much is the average wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s see if our guests on today\u2019s program know because they\u2019ve written a book called <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding<\/em>. Catherine Strode Parks and her mom, Linda Strode, join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. How about it, ladies?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, the most recent statistic I heard was right around $29,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>That\u2019s what I heard also. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s about right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Twenty-nine grand. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Twenty-nine\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you spend 29 grand on your wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes! [Mocking answer and laughter] <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How many people were at your wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A couple hundred. It was a modest\u2014it was very modest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019m surprised you could gather a couple hundred because you planned it in like six weeks; didn\u2019t you? [Laughter]\u2014from engagement to wedding\u2014how long?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2014it was six weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I\u2019m just surprised you get 200 friends who could clear the weekend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, the ones who mattered got there [Laughter]\u2014my mom and dad, and my best man, and some other good friends of ours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And a big church wedding\u2014was it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, it was a small church wedding\u2014very simple. We really got married before weddings really got on a jet sled and became this production. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to ask you ladies to comment on it, but let me just tell our listeners who they are. Linda is the mom, and she is a pastor\u2019s wife. You\u2019ve been married to your husband\u2014how many years now?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Almost 36. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s Tom. You guys live in Fredericksburg, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I love what she writes about herself: \u201cShe survived the bridesmaid fashion horrors of the 70s and 80s and has quite a few photo souvenirs to prove it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Do you remember the big wide-brimmed hats and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the big hair too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>\u2014big hair\u2014all kinds of things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Then, her daughter, Catherine, joins us. She lives in Nashville, along with Eric and her two young children. And here is what\u2014how she describes herself: \u201cShe has sung some terribly cheesy songs in weddings over the years\u201d\u2014were you paid for it?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>No. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand gave one of the worst rehearsal dinner speeches, in history, to her college roommate.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What went wrong with the speech?\u00a0 What was the deal?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, it was one of those on-the-fly\u2014they didn\u2019t tell anybody ahead of time to prepare something. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019re supposed to know this!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, I didn\u2019t know!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>But I thought I was prepared. So, I\u2019m sitting there, writing down some notes\u2014little inside jokes and things that I thought would get a few laughs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got up there, and I started talking. I talked about how our roommate movie was <em>Runaway Bride<\/em>. I made a comment about how \u201cSurely, that wouldn\u2019t happen. You know, people didn\u2019t have to worry about it.\u201d\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t a great joke; but I thought maybe people would chuckle, and no one really did. I went back and sat down. My friend said: \u201cAren\u2019t you sad about what you said?\u00a0 Do you regret that?\u201d\u00a0 And I said, \u201cWhat?!\u201d\u00a0 She pointed, and I forgot the groom\u2019s brother had been left at the altar\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh my!\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014<em>three<\/em> weeks before that. [Laughter]\u00a0 His fianc\u00e9e and I felt <em>so<\/em> bad. So, it\u2019s like the elephant in the room\u2014everyone was aware of\u2014and I just thought, \u201cOh, I\u2019m hilarious!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014and I may get into trouble for telling this story, but I\u2019ve got a feeling it\u2019s a public story\u2014that is in the range of what Dr. Al Mohler did\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh no. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014at a wedding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had done some pre-marriage counseling for this young lady and a young man whom she didn\u2019t marry. <em>At <\/em>the wedding\u2014during the ceremony \/ throughout the ceremony\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He referred to the groom by the ex-boyfriend\u2019s name the <em>entire<\/em> ceremony. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And he said\u2014he said he wondered why the wedding party kind of gathered in the back and was just kind of <em>staring<\/em> at him with this look. He sat down next to his wife\u2014wasn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We should\u2014yes, it was his wife who was the one who nudged him and finally set him straight of the whole thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Where do you go after something like that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You go far, far away. [Laughter]\u00a0 That\u2019s where you go. We should\u2014at some point, we should just do wedding horror stories\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and just have a whole <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> series on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I want both of our guests to share the most memorable wedding story you can recall\u2014not now but before the broadcast is over\u2014we\u2019ll come back to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut let\u2019s talk about weddings. You guys write in your book that there are two events that we think are great times to talk about what counts. One is weddings and the other is?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Funerals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Why?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>You have a captive audience. You have family members that come that you may\u2014they may never give you the opportunity to sit down and share the gospel with them. At your wedding \/ at your funeral\u2014those people come\u2014they are there and they are a captive audience. It\u2019s a great opportunity to share with them what\u2019s most important to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, so, people who never come to church\u2014you have a chance\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to turn them into a captive audience. Did you do that, Catherine?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>I think maybe, by God\u2019s grace, without me intentionally doing that; but I don\u2019t think I really had the big, full picture of what I was doing or the opportunity itself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally, the book is less of a \u201cDo as we did,\u201d and more of a \u201cThis is maybe what we wish we had known when we were planning.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s interesting because I think most young Christian couples, who are getting married\u2014they would all say: \u201cWe want to make sure the gospel is preached in our wedding. We want to make sure that God\u2019s glorified in our wedding.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, now, wait a second, Bob. I think there are a number who just want to get to the event of the wedding. I don\u2019t know that they are intentional about those matters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That they\u2019ve got a Christ-centered view to things?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, they think they may want some Scriptures in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But you are really talking about something different here than how a lot of people are getting married today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>When I got married\u2014which was almost 36 years ago\u2014you planned your wedding\u2014and it was more about the wedding and less about the reception. In the last 30 years, that has reversed. People really don\u2019t\u2014you know, use to\u2014you worried about how were you going to decorate the church, and the flowers, and all the candelabras. It was all very\u2014that\u2019s where the focus was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was like a simple cake and punch reception if you lived in the South. Now, the concentration seems to be less on the ceremony\u2014more on the party afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the worship service is secondary\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to the party that takes place afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. So, that\u2019s where I think it\u2019s really reversed\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I guess I\u2019m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>\u2014how we do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014thinking back to when Mary Ann and I got married. I remember us being conscious\u2014in fact, I remember us having this conversation as we were going through all of the elaborate planning that goes into a wedding. We kind of came to the point\u2014there were so many decisions to make: \u201cWhat kind of flowers do you want?\u201d \u201cWhat kind of mints do you want?\u201d \u201cWhat kind of this and what kind of\u2026?\u201d It\u2019s like: \u201cLet\u2019s figure out what really matters, to us, at the ceremony and let\u2019s be firm on that\u2014the stuff that doesn\u2019t really matter\u2014let\u2019s just let that go. If it matters to your mom, let her be the one who decides it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember us having conversations about \u201cYes, we do want the gospel to be preached in our ceremony. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe do want people pointed to God in our wedding ceremony.\u201d\u00a0 That was a general sentiment, but we didn\u2019t have any real concrete ideas about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014how should that get carried out other than \u201cPreacher, we hope you\u2019ll say a few good things about Jesus while we are doing this.\u201d\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn your book, you are trying to open folks up to some new ways of thinking about how this wedding ceremony really <em>can<\/em> be a proclamation of the gospel, from start to finish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Right. I think people, who have seen something like that, want that. I think, if you\u2019ve never seen what a wedding could be, you don\u2019t know how to think creatively. I saw a few weddings\u2014years after I was married \/ a few years\u2014and I realized, \u201cThere\u2019s so much more to it than to what I knew before.\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cIf only everyone could just see one of these weddings\u2014then, they would know.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut really, I think what you are saying about coming together and saying: \u201cThis is our vision for what the wedding needs to be. This is the most foundational thing,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what needs to happen before you start with any of the details. You sit down, as a couple and say: \u201cThis is our vision. Everything needs to be submissive to what we want to convey about our lives.\u201d\u00a0 If Christ is at the center of your life, then, some of those things will just happen naturally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I really agree with you. There are really three events, around a wedding, that I think really make a complete package and can be a great statement to other people. The first is rehearsal dinner. The second is, of course, the wedding. And the third is the reception afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Let\u2019s go back to the rehearsal dinner because, frankly, I think some of the highlights of weddings that I\u2019ve been to have been the privilege of allowing to peer into the intimacy of the caliber of the young people who are tying the knot with each other\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014where the ones who know them best stand up and talk about who they are\u2014the bride and the groom\u2014and talk about their values, their commitment to Christ, what they\u2019ve done for Him, how they followed Him, and how other people admire them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould you all say that\u2019s true for you as well?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s\u2014there\u2019s an intimacy there and a lack of pretense\u2014maybe, that you have on the wedding day itself\u2014there is a lot more pressure to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I had a friend who\u2014a lot of the people that were coming to the wedding were not believers. They decided to make\u2014instead of a rehearsal, at the church, they did a quick run through. Then, they had a lake day, where they just invited all their family and friends to have dinner and to do lake stuff. They let everyone give their toasts and their speeches there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is the day before the wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>The day before the wedding\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Lake Day?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014they just wanted it to be very relaxed \/ very laid-back. What they loved about it was it created this camaraderie and this fellowship, then, leading into the wedding itself\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the families were brought together \/ the friends. You kind of become this unit, then, leading into the wedding. You\u2019re ready to worship with people that you now consider brothers and sisters or friends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought that was a really beautiful idea. It\u2019s not for everybody. Some of us would be going crazy if we were doing that the day before our wedding, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What do you do with your hair after Lake Day?\u00a0 That\u2019s all I\u2019m thinking. [Laughter]\u00a0 You better have an appointment the next morning; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, you\u2019re not thinking about what you\u2019d do with your hair. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, not my hair!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m not thinking about my hair. There\u2019s not enough of it left to think about. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>And I thought it was great when Catherine got married. When she and Eric\u2014Eric\u2019s mother planned the rehearsal dinner and gave them a chance to go around and introduce every person that was at the rehearsal dinner and tell about their relationship with them and why they were special in their lives. It was such an opportunity to honor those people who have poured into you\u2014for your life. So, it takes the focus off of you and puts it on someone else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, stop and think about who is at the rehearsal dinner\u2014your family from both sides\u2014\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Both sides. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and your best friends\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s the wedding party. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014that\u2019s who you\u2019ve got lined up as the groomsmen and the bridesmaids\u2014are the people who are closest to you. It\u2019s really: \u201cThese are the people who have been the most important people in my life, for a lifetime; and we\u2019re getting together.\u201d\u00a0 In part, it\u2019s a statement that we\u2019re not getting married in a vacuum. We\u2019re getting married in a context of family and community. That needs to be acknowledged, and celebrated, and enjoyed. That\u2019s a big part\u2014we think of the rehearsal dinner, again, as kind of a celebration. It is a celebration\u2014but it can be <em>more<\/em> than just a nice dinner with a few toasts; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>And at the end of that, they had them sit in the center. Everybody gathered around them and had a prayer time around them\u2014you know, just for their\u2014not just for the wedding day\u2014but for their lives and for their marriage. So, again, it\u2019s bringing that focus back to the gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m listening to us here; and I\u2019m going, \u201cYou know, this is what a wedding ought to be about.\u201d\u00a0 It should be less about the program and the pomp and more about the relationships and about two families that are contributing one human being, each, to this new entity\u2014and then, surrounding them\u2014as they make the most sacred pledge and promise two human beings ever make with one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere do you think we went wrong on this?\u00a0 Where do we get off on the look \/ the feel and more the formality of a wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>That\u2019s a really good question. I think it\u2019s just been a gradual change. I mean, you think about weddings during my grandparents\u2019 day. A lot of them were very quick\u2014justice of the peace\u2014someone is going off to war or\u2014there was far less of the formality to a lot of those marriages. And then, I think a lot of it has to do with economics\u2014has to do with society at large. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, everything is public. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>There is this pressure to keep up with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014what you are seeing on Instagram, or Pinterest, or the wedding shows. You know, there are whole series of shows dedicated to just finding your wedding dress; but I think, along with that, we\u2019ve lost the commonality of what marriage is. We\u2019re defining it ourselves\u2014and in doing that\u2014we are losing kind of this sense of what it is all about in the first place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When we were putting together our <em>Art of Marriage<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> DVD series, I had the opportunity to interview couples who had been married 50-plus years and talk to them about, not just their marriage, but I asked them about their weddings. You are absolutely right. Fifty-plus years ago, it was not the ornate deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mom and dad got married at the base chapel in Abilene, Texas. Mom had come on a train from Michigan\u2014met Dad there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer parents weren\u2019t at the wedding. It was World War II. I\u2019ve got the picture of them out in front of the base chapel, with the crossed rifles as they are coming out. I don\u2019t think Mom has on an elaborate white dress as she\u2019s coming out. Dad is in his uniform, and that was about all there was to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m thinking of my mom and dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I don\u2019t know if we have any pictures because my dad and my mom both grew up in big families. They both just kind of snuck off\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>That\u2019s what mine did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014they eloped. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Their honeymoon was a weekend honeymoon because they both worked. My mom was a nurse. My dad pumped gasoline, back when service stations weren\u2019t like they are today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And they went to the Kentucky Derby. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, nice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And that was their honeymoon. They were back at work on Monday morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Linda, there has got to be some happy medium between having the social event of the season, that\u2019s in the newspaper, and sneaking off to the justice of the peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe really\u2014I mean, if we think about this from a biblical context, we really do want to have a solemnization of this vow\u2014that this couple are making with one another\u2014and do that in the presence of God and witnesses; don\u2019t we?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>We do want to do that. And you know, there is a lot about the bride and the bridegroom\u2014and Christ coming for His bride\u2014and it\u2019s such a picture that it should be a reflection of that. It just should be an absolute worship service and a picture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Yes, I agree. And I think you start with 1 John 4\u2014I think it is verse 13 that says, \u201cWe love because God loved us.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I have to correct you. It is 1 John 4:<em>19<\/em>. I know that because it was on our wedding invitations\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Nice!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and it\u2019s inscribed on Mary Ann\u2019s ring\u2014so, there you go. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well done!\u00a0 Alright, so, 1 John 4:19 says then that\u2014\u201cWe love because God first loved us.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think that\u2019s the picture that we take into our weddings. This is a celebration of human love, and it should be. We shouldn\u2019t tone that down because that\u2019s a gift from God, and it\u2019s an example of common grace. It\u2019s for everyone; you know?\u00a0 And every wedding and every marriage, between a man and a woman, reflects that reality\u2014whether the bride and groom understand that or not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, I think it is right. You know, some people say: \u201cWe just need to simplify our weddings. We don\u2019t need to spend money on them. Let\u2019s just tone everything down.\u201d\u00a0 I understand that. But I think that\u2019s a reaction that, maybe, denies the importance of the wedding itself. I think we still need to focus on the wedding as being important but for the right reason. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you mentioned that a wedding is the coming together of two very imperfect people. If they don\u2019t know it yet, they are about to find out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014on the honeymoon, if not long thereafter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think there are events that occur, either in the wedding or around the wedding, that remind us of the humanity. In fact, I think it\u2019s some of these events that occur in a wedding that make it memorable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEarlier, I asked you ladies to think about something funny or a memorable event at a wedding that either you participated in or maybe it was your own, Linda. You\u2019ve been married\u2014how long to Tom?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Well, almost 36 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Thirty-six years. So, can either of you recall an event?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you guys save your thoughts for a minute, and let me tell listeners how they can get a copy of your book. It\u2019s called <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding: Rejoicing in the Gospel on Your Big Day<\/em>. We have the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Listeners can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Click at the top of the page where it says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019ll take you right to where you can find information about Catherine and Linda\u2019s book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can order it from us, online, if you\u2019d like; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY for more information\u2014order by phone. Again, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014look for the information on the book, <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding: Rejoicing in the Gospel on Your Big Day<\/em>. Or call to order\u20141-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention that, for those who are engaged, Dennis and Barbara Rainey have written a devotional for couples\u2014a pre-married devotional\u201442 devotions you can go through together, as you\u2019re preparing for your marriage. There is information about the <em>Preparing for Marriage Devotions for Couples<\/em> on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com as well. Or you can order that book by phone at 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, what we\u2019ve talked about today is right in line with what is our heartbeat, here at FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur goal\u2014our focus, as a ministry, is to see every home become a godly home. We want to provide practical biblical help for marriages and families and to effectively develop godly families. We appreciate those of you who share that vision with us, and we know some of you do because we hear from you, from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a group of folks called Legacy Partners who provide the financial support needed for this ministry on a monthly basis. And some of you get in touch with us on occasion to make a donation to help support the ministry. Without those donations, we could not accomplish our goals. So, we appreciate those of you who partner with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to anyone that can help with a donation, right now, by sending you a copy of the 2015 Spirit-Filled Year calendar that FamilyLife has put together. It actually starts this month. You can put it up as soon as you get it because it\u2019s got October, November, and December of 2014 as a part of the calendar as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the calendar has, as its focus, the fruit of the Spirit, which we would hope would be integral in every marriage relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Simply, click in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, where it says, \u201cI Care,\u201d and make an online donation. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make your donation over the phone, and ask for the calendar when you do that. You can also mail a donation to us. Our mailing address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. And be sure to ask for the calendar when you write to us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s been our treat today to talk to Catherine Strode Parks and Linda Strode, her mom. I\u2019ve now given you ladies enough time to think about a funny moment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They are looking at each other like, \u201cYou got anything?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know that they\u2019ve got anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>I will have to say Catherine was in her cousin\u2019s wedding two years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur granddaughter was also in the wedding. She was the flower girl, and she was four at the time. They decided to leave her up on the stage the whole time. At some point, as she\u2019s hanging onto Catherine\u2019s shoes, [Laughter] and looking up under her dress, and she\u2019s laying down, and then she kind of crawls across the front to see what her papa is saying and what he\u2019s doing. It\u2019s definitely kind of a grandmother moment, but I\u2019m not sure it was a mother moment. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Anything stand out for you, Catherine?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, one of the stories that we tell in the book\u2014that we were not present for\u2014but it\u2019s a friend\u2019s story. She was not aware that her dress was maybe immodest. No one had really mentioned the idea of modesty to her at the time\u2014she was not a believer. She walks down the aisle, and the pastor performed the marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfterwards, they looked at their wedding certificate. Instead of the name, Rachel McCleaver\u2014which was her maiden name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, I think we got where that\u2019s going to end up\u2014okay!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>So, that\u2019s a cautionary tale, okay\u2014if that\u2019s your last name. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re going to talk more about how to have a Christ-centered wedding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And that, ladies and gentlemen, is <em>real <\/em>family life. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019ll do that tomorrow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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Strode Parks and her mother, Linda Strode, talk about the Christ-centered wedding - a wedding that reflects the gospel to all in attendance.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-10-02.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A wedding is a significant event; right?\u00a0 I mean\u2014it ought to be. Catherine Parks says, \u201cThere is a difference between something being significant and something being extravagant.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>You know, some people say: \u201cWe just need to simplify our weddings. We don\u2019t need to spend money on them. Let\u2019s just tone everything down.\u201d I understand that, but I think that\u2019s a reaction that maybe denies the importance of the wedding itself. I think we still need to focus on the wedding as being important but for the right reason. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, October 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to talk today about how to make a wedding a worship service. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you cheat on my notes, Bob, and see how much a wedding costs today?\u00a0 Did you see it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I did not cheat. I did not look at your notes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, you remember a few years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe did a number of broadcasts around weddings\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and having a Christian wedding\u2014and what it costs to put on a wedding. Do you remember?\u00a0 It was about $18,000. That may have been what?\u2014a decade ago?\u2014maybe 15 years ago?\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>The last number I saw\u2014because I did look at this a while back\u2014and it was $24,000, at that point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay, what do you think it is today?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2014it cannot have gone much beyond that because nobody has that kind of money anymore!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 How much\u2014what are they spending?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, this is not about how much money you have. This is about a dream\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014that young lady and her mother have been thinking about for centuries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, how much is the average wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s see if our guests on today\u2019s program know because they\u2019ve written a book called <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding<\/em>. Catherine Strode Parks and her mom, Linda Strode, join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. How about it, ladies?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, the most recent statistic I heard was right around $29,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>That\u2019s what I heard also. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s about right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Twenty-nine grand. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Twenty-nine\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you spend 29 grand on your wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes! [Mocking answer and laughter] <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How many people were at your wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A couple hundred. It was a modest\u2014it was very modest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019m surprised you could gather a couple hundred because you planned it in like six weeks; didn\u2019t you? [Laughter]\u2014from engagement to wedding\u2014how long?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2014it was six weeks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I\u2019m just surprised you get 200 friends who could clear the weekend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, the ones who mattered got there [Laughter]\u2014my mom and dad, and my best man, and some other good friends of ours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And a big church wedding\u2014was it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, it was a small church wedding\u2014very simple. We really got married before weddings really got on a jet sled and became this production. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to ask you ladies to comment on it, but let me just tell our listeners who they are. Linda is the mom, and she is a pastor\u2019s wife. You\u2019ve been married to your husband\u2014how many years now?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Almost 36. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s Tom. You guys live in Fredericksburg, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I love what she writes about herself: \u201cShe survived the bridesmaid fashion horrors of the 70s and 80s and has quite a few photo souvenirs to prove it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Do you remember the big wide-brimmed hats and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the big hair too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>\u2014big hair\u2014all kinds of things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Then, her daughter, Catherine, joins us. She lives in Nashville, along with Eric and her two young children. And here is what\u2014how she describes herself: \u201cShe has sung some terribly cheesy songs in weddings over the years\u201d\u2014were you paid for it?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>No. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand gave one of the worst rehearsal dinner speeches, in history, to her college roommate.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What went wrong with the speech?\u00a0 What was the deal?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, it was one of those on-the-fly\u2014they didn\u2019t tell anybody ahead of time to prepare something. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019re supposed to know this!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, I didn\u2019t know!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>But I thought I was prepared. 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My friend said: \u201cAren\u2019t you sad about what you said?\u00a0 Do you regret that?\u201d\u00a0 And I said, \u201cWhat?!\u201d\u00a0 She pointed, and I forgot the groom\u2019s brother had been left at the altar\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh my!\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014<em>three<\/em> weeks before that. [Laughter]\u00a0 His fianc\u00e9e and I felt <em>so<\/em> bad. So, it\u2019s like the elephant in the room\u2014everyone was aware of\u2014and I just thought, \u201cOh, I\u2019m hilarious!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014and I may get into trouble for telling this story, but I\u2019ve got a feeling it\u2019s a public story\u2014that is in the range of what Dr. Al Mohler did\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh no. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014at a wedding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had done some pre-marriage counseling for this young lady and a young man whom she didn\u2019t marry. <em>At <\/em>the wedding\u2014during the ceremony \/ throughout the ceremony\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He referred to the groom by the ex-boyfriend\u2019s name the <em>entire<\/em> ceremony. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And he said\u2014he said he wondered why the wedding party kind of gathered in the back and was just kind of <em>staring<\/em> at him with this look. He sat down next to his wife\u2014wasn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We should\u2014yes, it was his wife who was the one who nudged him and finally set him straight of the whole thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Where do you go after something like that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You go far, far away. [Laughter]\u00a0 That\u2019s where you go. We should\u2014at some point, we should just do wedding horror stories\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and just have a whole <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> series on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I want both of our guests to share the most memorable wedding story you can recall\u2014not now but before the broadcast is over\u2014we\u2019ll come back to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut let\u2019s talk about weddings. You guys write in your book that there are two events that we think are great times to talk about what counts. One is weddings and the other is?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Funerals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Why?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>You have a captive audience. You have family members that come that you may\u2014they may never give you the opportunity to sit down and share the gospel with them. At your wedding \/ at your funeral\u2014those people come\u2014they are there and they are a captive audience. It\u2019s a great opportunity to share with them what\u2019s most important to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, so, people who never come to church\u2014you have a chance\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to turn them into a captive audience. Did you do that, Catherine?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>I think maybe, by God\u2019s grace, without me intentionally doing that; but I don\u2019t think I really had the big, full picture of what I was doing or the opportunity itself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally, the book is less of a \u201cDo as we did,\u201d and more of a \u201cThis is maybe what we wish we had known when we were planning.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s interesting because I think most young Christian couples, who are getting married\u2014they would all say: \u201cWe want to make sure the gospel is preached in our wedding. We want to make sure that God\u2019s glorified in our wedding.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, now, wait a second, Bob. I think there are a number who just want to get to the event of the wedding. I don\u2019t know that they are intentional about those matters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That they\u2019ve got a Christ-centered view to things?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, they think they may want some Scriptures in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But you are really talking about something different here than how a lot of people are getting married today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>When I got married\u2014which was almost 36 years ago\u2014you planned your wedding\u2014and it was more about the wedding and less about the reception. In the last 30 years, that has reversed. People really don\u2019t\u2014you know, use to\u2014you worried about how were you going to decorate the church, and the flowers, and all the candelabras. It was all very\u2014that\u2019s where the focus was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was like a simple cake and punch reception if you lived in the South. Now, the concentration seems to be less on the ceremony\u2014more on the party afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the worship service is secondary\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to the party that takes place afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. So, that\u2019s where I think it\u2019s really reversed\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I guess I\u2019m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>\u2014how we do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014thinking back to when Mary Ann and I got married. I remember us being conscious\u2014in fact, I remember us having this conversation as we were going through all of the elaborate planning that goes into a wedding. We kind of came to the point\u2014there were so many decisions to make: \u201cWhat kind of flowers do you want?\u201d \u201cWhat kind of mints do you want?\u201d \u201cWhat kind of this and what kind of\u2026?\u201d It\u2019s like: \u201cLet\u2019s figure out what really matters, to us, at the ceremony and let\u2019s be firm on that\u2014the stuff that doesn\u2019t really matter\u2014let\u2019s just let that go. If it matters to your mom, let her be the one who decides it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember us having conversations about \u201cYes, we do want the gospel to be preached in our ceremony. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe do want people pointed to God in our wedding ceremony.\u201d\u00a0 That was a general sentiment, but we didn\u2019t have any real concrete ideas about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014how should that get carried out other than \u201cPreacher, we hope you\u2019ll say a few good things about Jesus while we are doing this.\u201d\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn your book, you are trying to open folks up to some new ways of thinking about how this wedding ceremony really <em>can<\/em> be a proclamation of the gospel, from start to finish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Right. I think people, who have seen something like that, want that. I think, if you\u2019ve never seen what a wedding could be, you don\u2019t know how to think creatively. I saw a few weddings\u2014years after I was married \/ a few years\u2014and I realized, \u201cThere\u2019s so much more to it than to what I knew before.\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cIf only everyone could just see one of these weddings\u2014then, they would know.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut really, I think what you are saying about coming together and saying: \u201cThis is our vision for what the wedding needs to be. This is the most foundational thing,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what needs to happen before you start with any of the details. You sit down, as a couple and say: \u201cThis is our vision. Everything needs to be submissive to what we want to convey about our lives.\u201d\u00a0 If Christ is at the center of your life, then, some of those things will just happen naturally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I really agree with you. There are really three events, around a wedding, that I think really make a complete package and can be a great statement to other people. The first is rehearsal dinner. The second is, of course, the wedding. And the third is the reception afterwards. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Let\u2019s go back to the rehearsal dinner because, frankly, I think some of the highlights of weddings that I\u2019ve been to have been the privilege of allowing to peer into the intimacy of the caliber of the young people who are tying the knot with each other\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014where the ones who know them best stand up and talk about who they are\u2014the bride and the groom\u2014and talk about their values, their commitment to Christ, what they\u2019ve done for Him, how they followed Him, and how other people admire them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould you all say that\u2019s true for you as well?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s\u2014there\u2019s an intimacy there and a lack of pretense\u2014maybe, that you have on the wedding day itself\u2014there is a lot more pressure to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I had a friend who\u2014a lot of the people that were coming to the wedding were not believers. They decided to make\u2014instead of a rehearsal, at the church, they did a quick run through. Then, they had a lake day, where they just invited all their family and friends to have dinner and to do lake stuff. They let everyone give their toasts and their speeches there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is the day before the wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>The day before the wedding\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Lake Day?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014they just wanted it to be very relaxed \/ very laid-back. What they loved about it was it created this camaraderie and this fellowship, then, leading into the wedding itself\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the families were brought together \/ the friends. You kind of become this unit, then, leading into the wedding. You\u2019re ready to worship with people that you now consider brothers and sisters or friends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought that was a really beautiful idea. It\u2019s not for everybody. Some of us would be going crazy if we were doing that the day before our wedding, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What do you do with your hair after Lake Day?\u00a0 That\u2019s all I\u2019m thinking. [Laughter]\u00a0 You better have an appointment the next morning; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, you\u2019re not thinking about what you\u2019d do with your hair. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, not my hair!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m not thinking about my hair. There\u2019s not enough of it left to think about. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Linda: <\/strong>And I thought it was great when Catherine got married. When she and Eric\u2014Eric\u2019s mother planned the rehearsal dinner and gave them a chance to go around and introduce every person that was at the rehearsal dinner and tell about their relationship with them and why they were special in their lives. It was such an opportunity to honor those people who have poured into you\u2014for your life. So, it takes the focus off of you and puts it on someone else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, stop and think about who is at the rehearsal dinner\u2014your family from both sides\u2014\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Both sides. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and your best friends\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s the wedding party. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014that\u2019s who you\u2019ve got lined up as the groomsmen and the bridesmaids\u2014are the people who are closest to you. It\u2019s really: \u201cThese are the people who have been the most important people in my life, for a lifetime; and we\u2019re getting together.\u201d\u00a0 In part, it\u2019s a statement that we\u2019re not getting married in a vacuum. We\u2019re getting married in a context of family and community. That needs to be acknowledged, and celebrated, and enjoyed. That\u2019s a big part\u2014we think of the rehearsal dinner, again, as kind of a celebration. It is a celebration\u2014but it can be <em>more<\/em> than just a nice dinner with a few toasts; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>And at the end of that, they had them sit in the center. Everybody gathered around them and had a prayer time around them\u2014you know, just for their\u2014not just for the wedding day\u2014but for their lives and for their marriage. So, again, it\u2019s bringing that focus back to the gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m listening to us here; and I\u2019m going, \u201cYou know, this is what a wedding ought to be about.\u201d\u00a0 It should be less about the program and the pomp and more about the relationships and about two families that are contributing one human being, each, to this new entity\u2014and then, surrounding them\u2014as they make the most sacred pledge and promise two human beings ever make with one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere do you think we went wrong on this?\u00a0 Where do we get off on the look \/ the feel and more the formality of a wedding?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>That\u2019s a really good question. I think it\u2019s just been a gradual change. I mean, you think about weddings during my grandparents\u2019 day. A lot of them were very quick\u2014justice of the peace\u2014someone is going off to war or\u2014there was far less of the formality to a lot of those marriages. And then, I think a lot of it has to do with economics\u2014has to do with society at large. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, everything is public. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>There is this pressure to keep up with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>\u2014what you are seeing on Instagram, or Pinterest, or the wedding shows. You know, there are whole series of shows dedicated to just finding your wedding dress; but I think, along with that, we\u2019ve lost the commonality of what marriage is. We\u2019re defining it ourselves\u2014and in doing that\u2014we are losing kind of this sense of what it is all about in the first place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When we were putting together our <em>Art of Marriage<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> DVD series, I had the opportunity to interview couples who had been married 50-plus years and talk to them about, not just their marriage, but I asked them about their weddings. You are absolutely right. Fifty-plus years ago, it was not the ornate deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mom and dad got married at the base chapel in Abilene, Texas. Mom had come on a train from Michigan\u2014met Dad there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer parents weren\u2019t at the wedding. It was World War II. I\u2019ve got the picture of them out in front of the base chapel, with the crossed rifles as they are coming out. I don\u2019t think Mom has on an elaborate white dress as she\u2019s coming out. Dad is in his uniform, and that was about all there was to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I\u2019m thinking of my mom and dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I don\u2019t know if we have any pictures because my dad and my mom both grew up in big families. They both just kind of snuck off\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>That\u2019s what mine did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014they eloped. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Their honeymoon was a weekend honeymoon because they both worked. My mom was a nurse. My dad pumped gasoline, back when service stations weren\u2019t like they are today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And they went to the Kentucky Derby. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Oh, nice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And that was their honeymoon. They were back at work on Monday morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Linda, there has got to be some happy medium between having the social event of the season, that\u2019s in the newspaper, and sneaking off to the justice of the peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe really\u2014I mean, if we think about this from a biblical context, we really do want to have a solemnization of this vow\u2014that this couple are making with one another\u2014and do that in the presence of God and witnesses; don\u2019t we?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>We do want to do that. And you know, there is a lot about the bride and the bridegroom\u2014and Christ coming for His bride\u2014and it\u2019s such a picture that it should be a reflection of that. It just should be an absolute worship service and a picture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Yes, I agree. And I think you start with 1 John 4\u2014I think it is verse 13 that says, \u201cWe love because God loved us.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I have to correct you. It is 1 John 4:<em>19<\/em>. I know that because it was on our wedding invitations\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Nice!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and it\u2019s inscribed on Mary Ann\u2019s ring\u2014so, there you go. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well done!\u00a0 Alright, so, 1 John 4:19 says then that\u2014\u201cWe love because God first loved us.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think that\u2019s the picture that we take into our weddings. This is a celebration of human love, and it should be. We shouldn\u2019t tone that down because that\u2019s a gift from God, and it\u2019s an example of common grace. It\u2019s for everyone; you know?\u00a0 And every wedding and every marriage, between a man and a woman, reflects that reality\u2014whether the bride and groom understand that or not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, I think it is right. You know, some people say: \u201cWe just need to simplify our weddings. We don\u2019t need to spend money on them. Let\u2019s just tone everything down.\u201d\u00a0 I understand that. But I think that\u2019s a reaction that, maybe, denies the importance of the wedding itself. I think we still need to focus on the wedding as being important but for the right reason. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you mentioned that a wedding is the coming together of two very imperfect people. If they don\u2019t know it yet, they are about to find out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014on the honeymoon, if not long thereafter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think there are events that occur, either in the wedding or around the wedding, that remind us of the humanity. In fact, I think it\u2019s some of these events that occur in a wedding that make it memorable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEarlier, I asked you ladies to think about something funny or a memorable event at a wedding that either you participated in or maybe it was your own, Linda. You\u2019ve been married\u2014how long to Tom?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Well, almost 36 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Thirty-six years. So, can either of you recall an event?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you guys save your thoughts for a minute, and let me tell listeners how they can get a copy of your book. It\u2019s called <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding: Rejoicing in the Gospel on Your Big Day<\/em>. We have the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Listeners can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Click at the top of the page where it says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019ll take you right to where you can find information about Catherine and Linda\u2019s book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can order it from us, online, if you\u2019d like; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY for more information\u2014order by phone. Again, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014look for the information on the book, <em>A Christ-Centered Wedding: Rejoicing in the Gospel on Your Big Day<\/em>. Or call to order\u20141-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me also mention that, for those who are engaged, Dennis and Barbara Rainey have written a devotional for couples\u2014a pre-married devotional\u201442 devotions you can go through together, as you\u2019re preparing for your marriage. There is information about the <em>Preparing for Marriage Devotions for Couples<\/em> on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com as well. Or you can order that book by phone at 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, what we\u2019ve talked about today is right in line with what is our heartbeat, here at FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur goal\u2014our focus, as a ministry, is to see every home become a godly home. We want to provide practical biblical help for marriages and families and to effectively develop godly families. We appreciate those of you who share that vision with us, and we know some of you do because we hear from you, from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a group of folks called Legacy Partners who provide the financial support needed for this ministry on a monthly basis. And some of you get in touch with us on occasion to make a donation to help support the ministry. Without those donations, we could not accomplish our goals. So, we appreciate those of you who partner with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to anyone that can help with a donation, right now, by sending you a copy of the 2015 Spirit-Filled Year calendar that FamilyLife has put together. It actually starts this month. You can put it up as soon as you get it because it\u2019s got October, November, and December of 2014 as a part of the calendar as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the calendar has, as its focus, the fruit of the Spirit, which we would hope would be integral in every marriage relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Simply, click in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, where it says, \u201cI Care,\u201d and make an online donation. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make your donation over the phone, and ask for the calendar when you do that. You can also mail a donation to us. Our mailing address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. And be sure to ask for the calendar when you write to us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s been our treat today to talk to Catherine Strode Parks and Linda Strode, her mom. I\u2019ve now given you ladies enough time to think about a funny moment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They are looking at each other like, \u201cYou got anything?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know that they\u2019ve got anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>I will have to say Catherine was in her cousin\u2019s wedding two years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur granddaughter was also in the wedding. She was the flower girl, and she was four at the time. They decided to leave her up on the stage the whole time. At some point, as she\u2019s hanging onto Catherine\u2019s shoes, [Laughter] and looking up under her dress, and she\u2019s laying down, and then she kind of crawls across the front to see what her papa is saying and what he\u2019s doing. It\u2019s definitely kind of a grandmother moment, but I\u2019m not sure it was a mother moment. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Anything stand out for you, Catherine?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>Well, one of the stories that we tell in the book\u2014that we were not present for\u2014but it\u2019s a friend\u2019s story. She was not aware that her dress was maybe immodest. No one had really mentioned the idea of modesty to her at the time\u2014she was not a believer. She walks down the aisle, and the pastor performed the marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfterwards, they looked at their wedding certificate. Instead of the name, Rachel McCleaver\u2014which was her maiden name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, I think we got where that\u2019s going to end up\u2014okay!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Catherine: <\/strong>So, that\u2019s a cautionary tale, okay\u2014if that\u2019s your last name. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re going to talk more about how to have a Christ-centered wedding. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And that, ladies and gentlemen, is <em>real <\/em>family life. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019ll do that tomorrow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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