{"id":303141,"date":"2014-07-28T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-28T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-revolution-begins\/"},"modified":"2014-07-28T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-07-28T15:00:00","slug":"the-revolution-begins","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-revolution-begins\/","title":{"rendered":"The Revolution Begins"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pastor David Nasser tells how his family fled Iran in 1979. 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Though his family tried for months to get into the US, when his mother invited him to pray to this \"American Jesus,\" things began to change.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-07-28.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When he was nine years old\u20141979\u2014David Nasser and his family escaped from what was almost certain death in Iran. They were looking for a place of refuge, hoping to come to the United States.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>We tried every way we could, and we couldn\u2019t come here. My mom got us together one day. She said: \u201cWe\u2019ve been trying to go to America. We\u2019ve exhausted all these different avenues.\u201d She said, \u201cI have another idea.\u201d She said, \u201cHave you ever heard of Jesus?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had never heard of Jesus, and she showed us a picture. She said: \u201cHe\u2019s American. We need to ask Him to let us into His country.\u201d I know that\u2019s <em>horrible<\/em> theology! I\u2019m not telling you that is the prayer it took. I\u2019m just telling you\u2014we bent our will. We bent on our knees, and we submitted ourselves. We said, \u201cJesus, please let us into Your country.\u201d A week- and-a-half later, doors opened up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, July 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll hear a powerful story today about how God\u2019s hand was already working to direct the Nasser family, all the way back in 1979. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Monday edition. Pretty excited about what\u2019s coming up this weekend at the Allstate Arena in Chicago\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong><em>I Still Do<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014for the one-day marriage celebration called <em>I Still Do<\/em>\u2014and then, a couple weeks after that we\u2019re going to be in Portland at the Moda Center\u2014and then October 4<sup>th<\/sup>, out in Washington, DC, at the Verizon Center. We are really excited about the response of folks to this, but we\u2019re also excited about who\u2019s going to be joining us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We are. David Nasser joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> today. You\u2019re joining us at all three of these <em>I Still Do<\/em> events. Welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Thank you for having me, not just here for the broadcast but for these events.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>What an honor.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re excited to tell your story today. I think our listeners are in for a real treat. Let me just tell our listeners a little about you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou and your wife Jennifer, along with your two children, live in Birmingham, Alabama, where you pastor the Christ City Church, which is an inner city church in Birmingham. You\u2019ve written a couple of books: <em>A Call to Die<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes sir.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014now that\u2019s a real enticing title. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>An Iranian with a book called <em>A Call to Die<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Seriously!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the book we\u2019re talking about today, <em>Jumping through Fires<\/em>. Take us back to the story of your son and your dad in your driveway, here in America\u2014jumping through fires.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right; absolutely. You\u2019re referring to the title of the book, <em>Jumping through Fires<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>The book, which is my testimony book, really begins with this moment where we, as Iranians, in the American culture, celebrate, once a year, the new year\u2014the coming of spring in America by dressing in all red. We joined the tradition of what we came from\u2014from Iran.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s called what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It\u2019s called <em>Chaharshambe Suri<\/em>\u2014where they light these little bitty fire puddles and then you jump over these fires. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not a religious thing at all. It\u2019s more of a ceremonial thing of you jump over the fires. It\u2019s a fun event. As you jump over them, you\u2019re burning the old, looking ahead at the new. So, my parents really wanted us to be a part of that, even in our newness in America. So, every year, we dress in red.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You have a red outfit at home?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I have a red leather jacket that looks like Michael Jackson circa 1988. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I brush it out, and I\/we get our family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re doing this in your driveway, now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This is where this takes place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>So, imagine Alabama\u2014think soccer moms and minivans.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>And then the Iranian family\u2014which, since September 11<sup>th<\/sup>, everybody is probably thinking, \u201cDo we know where they were on that day?\u201d\u2014we take the driveway\u2014we get these little turkey\u2014the little aluminum things you put turkeys in\u2014get deer logs and we put them in five puddles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI begin the book, <em>Jumping through Fires<\/em>, by telling the story of my son, Rudy, who is from Guatemala\u2014we adopted from Guatemala\u2014holding my military Iranian father\u2019s hand, as they\u2019re jumping through these fires during this event called <em>Chaharshambe Suri.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I\u2019m watching my dad, holding my son\u2019s hand, and we\u2019re jumping through that, it is just a moment that represents how all of our life has been really just jumping through these different trials and fires where God is just using this Refiner\u2019s fire in our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You actually grew up in Iran.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Your dad was the equivalent of a general of the Shaw of Iran\u2014the king of Iran.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes sir. I grew up a military kid. We lived in the army base in Iran. My dad was high-ranked in the military. So, then in 1979, the Iranian revolution happened. Over a million people were murdered and executed when the Ayatollah Khomeini and his religious zealots kind of took over our country. I call it \u201creligion gone wrong.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen the revolution happened in 1979, I was just this elementary kid in a military school in Iran. We just had a front-row seat in watching our country just completely be turned over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I presume you were, at least, culturally Muslim if not actively Muslim?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Absolutely. We were exactly that. We were culturally Muslim. I mean, we were pretty liberal in one sense in that my mom didn\u2019t wear chador. We just traveled around the world. We were never devout, I would say, as a Muslim family; but when the revolution happened, there was no middle ground. The church became state\u2014if you want to call it that. Our country was overthrown by religious people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember those days\u2014I remember the revolution happening\u2014and soldiers coming to our school and reading my name out at a school assembly one of the first weeks of the revolution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember standing in front of the school when he read my name out. He took a gun out of a holster and pointed it at my head\u2014the gentleman who called the assembly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You were nine years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I was nine years old. He said\u2014because of Allah \/ because of the revolution\u2014I was just going to have to be a kid he was going to have to kill. It was because of who my father was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when you\u2019re nine years old, and somebody tells you, because of God, they have to take your life\u2014you\u2019re wrecked by it. I was confused, as a little kid. I was just a kid\u2014who grew up in a military army base, and played soccer, and hung out\u2014and then a revolution happens. The next thing you know, soldiers in our school are trying to take my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe school principal got between me and the gun and told him to come back another day. For all I cared, he didn\u2019t need to come back another day! I went home and told my parents what was happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve seen my father cry three times my whole life. That was the first time. He sat me on his lap, and cried, and said: \u201cSon, the revolution\u2019s happening. They\u2019re really coming after you because of who I am. They\u2019re overthrowing the government. Terrorism is fear at work. They\u2019re just using this to leverage more fear into people\u2019s lives.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy dad told me that day: \u201cThey\u2019re not going to have that opportunity again. You\u2019re not going to have to confront that man again.\u201d We began to plan our escape, knowing we had to get out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Your time of confusion didn\u2019t end. In fact, it had to be exponentially escalated because the revolution came to the front door of your home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It sure did. My dad was really busy trying to save us; but at the same time\u2014I remember\u2014a few days later, soldiers came in after him. I remember that. I remember my mother, hanging on to the leg of one of the soldiers, as they were dragging my dad out of the house. She just kept saying out loud\u2014really loudly: \u201cJust kill him quickly! Just kill him quickly!\u201d When you\u2019re nine, you\u2019re going through such trauma. You\u2019re just thinking, \u201cWhy is my mom telling this soldier to kill my father quickly?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I didn\u2019t know was that they were taking my father to a park, where earlier that week, they had taken other men from the same army base, who were some of my father\u2019s coworkers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my dad\u2019s friends, for example, was taken to a tree and tied to a tree. With a pair of pliers, he was picked apart\u2014piece by piece\u2014slow torture. So, my mom was pleading for mercy. She was saying: \u201cPlease don\u2019t torture him slowly. If you\u2019re going to kill him, just kill him quickly.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that, Dennis\u2014I remember, literally. They took my dad out. My mom was begging. Then she looked at us; and she said, \u201cLet\u2019s pray.\u201d My first memory ever of prayer was when my mom got our hands, as a family. She just started saying, out loud, \u201cGod, if You\u2019re up there, just let him die quickly.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What are you thinking, as a boy? I\u2019m just thinking of the innocence of me growing up in Ozark, Missouri. At nine years old, I\u2019m going out in the front yard playing in the sand box.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right; sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Totally. So was I, Dennis; right? I was just\u2014literally, more sand than you. [Laughter] We played in a grass box. You all have sand boxes\u2014we had sand everywhere\u2014we played in our grass box. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was the same as you. And then\u2014so imagine\u2014you\u2019re in Missouri\u2014you\u2019re just in a very safe context.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>And then the next thing you know, everything\u2019s turned upside-down. And then they tell you, \u201cIt\u2019s because of God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was nine years old when I thought: \u201cIf God\u2019s representation of His people, in the name of God, want to come and kill me at school\u2014and God is the reason that we\u2019re having to leave everything behind\u2014if God is the reason that people are dragging my father out of our home, apparently, God\u2019s pretty mad at us. I don\u2019t know what we\u2019ve done, but He\u2019s pretty angry. If He\u2019s an angry God and He hates me, than I ought to beat Him to the punch.\u201d\u00a0 I remember, as a nine-year-old kid, literally thinking, \u201cI hate God.\u201d I know most nine-year-olds don\u2019t think that because most nine-year-olds don\u2019t come to that crucible of choice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What happened with your dad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Well, that day he came home\u2014just God\u2019s sovereignty. You just look back\u2014and I can see just the predestined hand of God\u2014just in my parents\u2019 lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe went there\u2014a soldier recognized him\u2014leveraged his power that he had just gotten, as a new soldier, who was on the other side of the regime, to help my dad out. My dad came home and said, \u201cThey\u2019ve given me a few more weeks because of the mercy of this one soldier.\u201d He said, \u201cWhen they come back, we\u2019re not going to be here.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we planned our escape. My mom, at that time, had some heart issues. She\u2019d had a track record of some heart problems that she\u2019d been going to see some doctors for. They used that for our advantage. They went to these doctors; and they said: \u201cWe need to get out of Iran. We\u2019ll give you our home, our cars, our clothes\u2014everything that we have\u201d\u2014 to these doctors\u2014\u201cif, in exchange, you\u2019ll put yourself on the line and help us escape.\u201d The doctors were in on the plan. A couple weeks later, it was all just fabricated\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How could you trust the doctors, though? As I read your story, I was like, \u201cHow would you know who to trust and not to trust?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s a great question because I\u2019ve never asked my dad that. But I think, Dennis, when you\u2019re in a desperate place, you just trust the only\u2014sometimes you don\u2019t have a lot of options. You just trust the nearest guy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, this was the one way\u2014they didn\u2019t have a lot of choice \/ they didn\u2019t have a lot of time. They saw my mom\u2019s health situation as a way to be able to get out\u2014to be able to get two-way airline tickets to be able to not have to\u2014they needed an excuse to leave immediately. So, they went to the doctors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, in God\u2019s sovereignty, I think God was just working because they didn\u2019t tell on us. We got two-way airline tickets, like we were going and coming back. We got the homework assignments, like we were going and coming back\u2014and got a house-sitter, like we were going and coming back\u2014but we weren\u2019t coming back. We were running for our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that. I remember holding my dad\u2019s hand in the airport\u2014in the Tehran airport. If you\u2019ve seen <em>Argo<\/em>, it\u2019s that airport in that movie. His hand kept shaking. He kept saying: \u201cThis was not smart. They\u2019re going to find out we\u2019re escaping, and they\u2019re going to kill us right here.\u201d I look back and see how God, even then, just took us out Iran\u2014put us on the plane, and we started flying up towards Switzerland.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And did you have any idea where you were going?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>As a kid, I really didn\u2019t. I just knew we were going to Europe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>It\u2019s so funny. I was more concerned about, \u201cAm I never going to see my Legos<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>When you\u2019re kid: \u201cAm I saying goodbye to\u2026\u201d My mom was weeping because she was thinking, \u201cAm I never going to see my sister and my mother?\u201d I was thinking, \u201cI just got the Six-million-dollar man action figure, and we don\u2019t even get to play\u2026\u201d When you\u2019re nine, you\u2019re just thinking\u2014I remember the flight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople ask me sometimes: \u201cSo you were flying out of Iran into Switzerland. What was on your mind?\u201d I remember they brought a can of Coke. I just thought: \u201cI\u2019ve never seen it in a can before. I\u2019ve always seen it in a bottle.\u201d Half of my flight was: \u201cIs that how it\u2019s going to be\u2014when we get there\u2014and it\u2019s going to be in cans?\u201d Isn\u2019t it funny how the Lord sometimes just shelters you, and you don\u2019t know the grandness of what you\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you were just being a boy, at that point!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But I\u2019m just thinking, \u201cIf I were to escape today\u2014if I had to leave Arkansas and run for my life\u2014I wouldn\u2019t know where to go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did your parents have contacts in the United States or in Europe?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Absolutely; great question. We wanted to come to America, but Switzerland was where they said they could go for this supposed surgery. When we got to Switzerland, instead of going to the hospital, they just went to the American Consulate. They applied for political asylum, which is just a fancy way of saying we wanted to become refugees. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said\u2014because of his position in the army, in the past, of my dad, and because of what he had been going through\u2014we need to find asylum in the United States; but at that time, nobody was allowing Iranians into the United States because people were watching on TV how the revolution was happening\u2014how over 50 hostages were being held in the American Embassy in Iran. So, we were from the wrong place at the wrong time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>\u2014so we\u2019re stuck in Europe. We were stuck, basically, in Switzerland. Then we went to Munich, Germany, because we thought it\u2019d be easier. We\u2019d heard the American Consulate in Munich was more sympathetic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we would go there, and plead our case every day, and try to make it to America. The doors just wouldn\u2019t open up. So, for nine months\u2014to be honest, we tried legally \/ we tried illegally\u2014every way, Dennis\u2014and the doors wouldn\u2019t open up until one day\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay, stop one second because I want to get to the one day. I have to ask this question. I\u2019ve always wanted to ask this from someone who escaped to get political asylum. Where did the money come from? How did you get the money out of the country? I\u2019m sure that your family was a family of means, working for the Shaw. How do you float the boat financially?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Sure; absolutely. My dad had taken a piece of luggage\u2014and he had taken the lining off\u2014and he had lined it with some money. My mom had bought a golden belt\u2014this gold and platinum belt. She had bought rings. They had liquidated some things because it was going to be a real tell-all if they got caught with taking a lot of money over for this quick little surgery they were going for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey put the jewelry in my brother\u2019s baby carriage\u2014they\u2019d stuffed it in the lining. So, they had this luggage. That\u2019s why, when we were going through the airport, my dad\u2019s hands\u2014I remember my dad kept saying: \u201cThis was dumb. If they find this jewelry \/ if they find this luggage, they\u2019re going to kill us right here on the spot.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The money\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>But this story, honestly, is all about how God delivered us, despite us! This is no heroic side. Everything we did we did wrong, but God was so much bigger than all of that. So, we got here. We didn\u2019t have a lot of money, but we had some money.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>My dad knew he had to come to America and begin a new work. He was a helicopter pilot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we have to get you to America first!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What happened?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes. I love to tell this little moment because it\u2019s just so\u2014we always talk about my first prayer being this traumatic religious prayer\u2014but the second memory I have of prayer is\u2014we tried every way we could, and we couldn\u2019t come here. My mom got us together one day; and she said: \u201cWe\u2019ve been trying to go to America. We\u2019ve exhausted all these different avenues.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0She said, \u201cI have another idea.\u201d She said, \u201cHave you ever heard of Jesus?\u201d I had never heard of Jesus. She showed us a picture of a white guy with a beard and a mullet. She said: \u201cThis is Jesus. He\u2019s American.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Hold it! Hold it! You just described him how?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>A white man with a\u2014think <em>Duck Dynasty<\/em>; alright? So, basically, she said, \u201cThis is Jesus.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cHe\u2019s an American.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>I love that because I\u2019m sure, listening right now, someone is thinking, \u201cWell, isn\u2019t Jesus American?\u201d He\u2019s really not. He\u2019s more \u201cCamel Dynasty\u201d than <em>Duck Dynasty<\/em>. He\u2019s more from my neck of the woods than your neck of the woods.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Anyway, so\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re not going there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>So, my mom said, \u201cThis is Jesus.\u201d She showed us a picture. She said: \u201cHe\u2019s American. We need to ask Him to let us into His country.\u201d I know that\u2019s <em>horrible <\/em>theology! I\u2019m not telling you that is the prayer it took. I\u2019m just telling you\u2014we bent our will. We bent on our knees, and we submitted ourselves. We said, \u201cJesus, please let us into Your country.\u201d A week-and-a-half later, the doors opened up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that second flight\u2014from Europe to the United States\u2014being a flight where, in the back of my mind, I thought: \u201cI still hate religion. We\u2019ve had to leave everybody behind because of religion, but this American Jesus is pretty cool.\u201d Like, \u201cThanks for letting us into Your country.\u201d We move. We come to America. We move to Killeen, Texas, where Fort Hood was\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>\u2014the largest army base, at that time, in the world. We moved to a military town in the middle of the Iranian hostage crisis from the wrong place in the world. Every day, people are watching on the news\u2014Ted Coppell comes on and says, \u201cDay 52 of the situation,\u201d and, \u201cDay 53\u2026\u201d We have just moved into that place to try to find\u2014my dad\u2019s trying to find a job, as a helicopter pilot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Were you aware, as a nine-year-old, that you were being watched by the people\u2014did you feel discriminated against?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Absolutely because you come in from a different culture. So forget Iran.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>But you come into a different culture to a very military, patriotic Texas\u2014military town in Texas. I have the wrong haircut, the wrong clothes, wrong language\u2014wrong everything\u2014I don\u2019t speak the lingo. People are like, \u201cYou are so going to get beat up today after school.\u201d So, I was the kid who just went to school. Honestly, I replaced one kind of terrorism for a whole other kind of terrorism; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>So, it was just\u2014you come into a different world, and you\u2019re the outsider. You\u2019re at the receiving end of every 7-Eleven<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> joke \/ every turban joke. That was me the first few years here in the United States. That\u2019s what I remember the most\u2014more than I remember the trauma of the revolution. I remember everybody got invited to the skating rink birthday day but the Iranian kid. I remember being that kid who was just alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo me, in my mind, I thought: \u201cIf that\u2019s what we got\u2014we escaped from Iran, we escaped from everything, and we\u2019ve escaped to this place that\u2019s supposed to be our refuge\u2014and it doesn\u2019t feel safe to me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the Iranian revolution was over rather quickly. This revolution\u2014that was occurring in your family\u2019s life\u2014lasted for years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Exactly right. That\u2019s really a good way to put it. I wish I could put that back in my book. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what\u2019s great about what you just said is\u2014I think a lot of people feel like America is a great god. They don\u2019t want to call it that, but I just think the American dream\u2014\u201cIf I can just come here, I can find hope.\u201d I think the way you put it is great in that, when you said that I just thought\u2014yes, you come here, thinking\u2014it can\u2019t deliver the hope that you hope it\u2019ll deliver for you. It\u2019s the greatest country in the world, but it\u2019s a horrible god. You come here looking for refuge. It can certainly afford you opportunities\u2014there\u2019s a reason everybody wants to come here. It\u2019s the greatest country. But it really stops short of really solving\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the problem of the soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And as you were talking, I couldn\u2019t help but think, David, about Jeremiah 33:3\u2014of how God answered the prayer of a boy, and a mom, and a dad in a very simple way. This is God speaking to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe says, \u201cCall to Me, and I will answer you; and I will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known.\u201d Prayer, in its very essence, is coming to God, knowing that He\u2019s there, and then expecting Him \/ asking Him to do something on our behalf. I think it\u2019s just good to be reminded, as you\u2019ve reminded all of us, that a boy who didn\u2019t know the name of Jesus can still articulate His name and ask Him to help.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There may be a listener, right now, who\u2019s facing something\u2014and it\u2019s not the Iranian revolution \/ saving your life\u2014maybe it is. Maybe it\u2019s just a simple prayer you need to say: \u201cJesus, help. I need You to help.\u201d As we\u2019re going to hear a bit later, your story is a <em>phenomenal<\/em> story of redemption.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. In fact, you have shared the story in the book you wrote called <em>Jumping through Fires<\/em>, which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. I\u2019d encourage our listeners: go to FamilyLifeToday.com if you\u2019d like to read the whole story. The book is called <em>Jumping through Fires<\/em>. You can order, online, from our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. When you get to the home page, in the upper left-hand corner, where it says, \u201cGO DEEPER,\u201d click that link. There\u2019s information there about David\u2019s book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, David\u2019s going to be joining us this Saturday, in Chicago, at the Allstate Arena. If you live in the Chicagoland area\u2014and you don\u2019t already have tickets\u2014you can come join us on Saturday to hear David Nasser, Dennis and Barbara Rainey, Crawford and Karen Lorritts, Al Mohler, Shaunti Feldhahn, Ron Deal, Andrew Peterson, Chris August\u2014going to be a great day at <em>I Still Do<\/em>. We\u2019d love to have you be a part of the event. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, click the link at the top of the page that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d You can order David\u2019s book, or you can get more information about tickets for <em>I Still Do<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd keep in mind, David is going to be joining us at the <em>I Still Do<\/em> in Portland on Saturday, August 23<sup>rd<\/sup>; and he\u2019s going to be at the <em>I Still Do<\/em> in Washington, DC, on October 4<sup>th<\/sup>, which is a worldwide simulcast. So, again, if you\u2019d like more information about the upcoming <em>I Still Do <\/em>events, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cGO DEEPER.\u201d The information you need is available there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s clear, as we hear David Nasser\u2019s story today, that God had His hand on you \/ on your family. He was accomplishing His purposes for your family and through your family. Our conviction here, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, is that all of us need to be aware of \/ be mindful of the fact that God is at work in our families. We believe that God wants to do a transforming work in our lives\u2014in our marriages and, ultimately, in our relationships\u2014starting at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is committed to\u2014providing practical biblical help for your marriage and your family. And of course, this radio program is part of the way we do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe appreciate those of you who share our passion to see families strengthened and who help support this ministry. Your financial support makes this program possible. Right now, if you can help with a donation, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you for your support,\u201d by sending you a copy of a message that Dennis Rainey shared at an <em>I Still Do<\/em> event, back a number of years ago, about how \u201cUnless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAsk for the CD from Dennis Rainey when you go online to make a donation at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link in the upper right-hand corner of the screen that says, \u201cI Care,\u201d to make an online donation. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make your donation over the phone. Or, if you\u2019d prefer, you can mail a donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And the zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBe sure to ask for the CD from Dennis Rainey when you mail a check or when you contact us by phone to make your donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd be sure to be back with us again tomorrow when we will hear the conclusion of David Nasser\u2019s story. In fact, we\u2019re going to hear what it cost David, as a young man, to embrace Christ. There was a cost. I hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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