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He listened to Jesus. You see that\u2014Jesus talked about that in the Lord\u2019s Prayer. He protected Jesus\u2014and the angels came and warned Joseph before Herod could get to Him. He comforted Jesus\u2014that whole story of the Garden of Gethsemane. What is that about?\u00a0 That\u2019s comforting. He met Jesus at His point of need after He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. There were angels there for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose four things\u2014if you\u2019re a dad\u2014and you\u2019re listening to your kids, and you\u2019re protecting your kids, and you\u2019re comforting them, and you\u2019re meeting them at their point of need\u2014that\u2019s what nurturing really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 6<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to get some better understanding of how we are to be a father to our children by looking at the good and the bad examples we find in Scripture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m trying to think: \u201cWhere is it in the Bible\u2014there is some place in the Bible\u2014I guess it\u2019s the Proverbs 31 woman, whose children rise up and call her blessed. Isn\u2019t that where it talks about that?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There is no place where it talks about the children rising up and calling their dad blessed; is there?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Is there?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Where?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s in the Ten Commandments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The fifth commandment\u2014it\u2019s the one with a promise. Exodus, Chapter 20, verse 12\u2014it says, \u201cHonor your father and your mother.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a question for you: \u201cAre you worthy of honor with your kids?\u00a0 Do you think they would say, \u2018You are worthy of honor\u2019?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ll answer it for you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>: Okay. [Laughter]\u00a0 Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014because it\u2019s a little self-serving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s a hard question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Tough crowd here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is. It is a tough\u2014but of course, you are. You\u2019ve lived an honorable life. You haven\u2019t lived a perfect life\u2014neither have I \/ neither has any dad\u2014but we\u2019re going to talk today about being an honorable dad that is worthy of honor and how we can do that in a practical way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s interesting that you should zero in on the fifth commandment, as well, because we have just recently released the 20<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary Edition of a book that you wrote, back when <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> was first getting started\u2014a book called <em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>. You really believe the fifth commandment is one that has been abandoned by this generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I just had a conversation with a young lady, whose dad is dying of cancer and he doesn\u2019t have long to live. I got a copy of this book, and pressed it into her hands, and said: \u201cYou\u2019ve got an assignment because he doesn\u2019t have long to live. You need to say it to him while he\u2019s alive and you need to put it in print.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd she said, \u201cOh, my brother and I\u2014we\u2019ll both do it.\u201d\u00a0 And I look forward to hearing the rest of the story on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut today, we\u2019ve got someone who has written his own book. It\u2019s called <em>Bad Dads<\/em>. Roland Warren joins us on the broadcast. He is the former President of the National Fatherhood Initiative\u2014a great organization. You\u2019re currently the President and CEO of Care Net\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014which is the nation\u2019s largest network of pregnancy resource centers. You and your wife, Yvette, have two grown sons. And you\u2019ve written this book, <em>Bad Dads<\/em>. I want us to go back to December 10, 2008, when two sons\u2014two brothers decided to make a phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, these two brothers\u2014they made a call. They had had a conversation with their father. He had basically revealed that everything that they believed about him and everything that they believed about their business was a sham. And\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, these two boys had been working for Dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And they were thinking that the business was on the up and up; and Dad sits them down and says, \u201cIt isn\u2019t all that it seemed to be.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s a house of cards. Essentially: \u201cI\u2019ve been lying to you for years, and I\u2019ve been lying to your mother for years, and I\u2019ve been lying to our friends for years. I\u2019ve been lying to our community for years.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And they blew the whistle?\u00a0 They called the FBI?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And they did. They did. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I have the headlines from <em>The<\/em> <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> of these\u2014what these two brothers did and the confession of a father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He said, \u201cAnd I have left my children and grandchildren a terrible legacy.\u201d\u00a0 You\u2019re, of course, talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Bernie Madoff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And your point is?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>People talk about it from the perspective of\u2014economics, and finance, and this, that, and the other, and bank accounts, and those kinds of things\u2014but really, it\u2019s a fatherhood story. It\u2019s a story about a father who, basically, made it difficult for his kids to honor him. That\u2019s one of the bad dad mistakes that I talk about quite a bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And it\u2019s interesting because, in your book about honoring your father and mother\u2014<em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>\u2014you make the point that some children do have a hard time finding much to honor their parents about. Yet, you challenge us\u2014all of us\u2014to look for the things\u2014and you say they are there if we will look; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They are usually there. I\u2019ve had a few people say they could never find it or find those things to honor their parents about; but I think most parents, even the ones who weren\u2019t what we would call great parents\u2014and speaking of fathers, now, who maybe were a bad dad\u2014there are those matters in their lives that you can find. You can find a way to honor them for the position they held in your life and what you learned from them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, your dad\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, my mother and father split up. He wasn\u2019t engaged with us on a day-to-day basis from the time I was about seven years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd even before that, he was starting to not be around. And you know, \u201cHow am I going to honor when I\u2019m angry, or when I feel hurt, or when I feel rejected, and things of that nature?\u201d\u00a0 And the fifth commandment doesn\u2019t give you that out. [Laughter]\u00a0 It really doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, it really doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>It doesn\u2019t. But the flip side of that, to me\u2014and this was the epiphany I had when I was writing the book\u2014was that the fifth commandment\u2014we look at that commandment for kids\u2014but it really is just as much for adults because it\u2019s easier to honor someone who is honorable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you think about it, if you really love your children, then, basically, I\u2019m going to try to make sure that it\u2019s easy for them to follow the fifth commandment. In order for them to follow the fifth commandment, that means I\u2019m going to have to be honorable. So, there is an implied command in the fifth commandment for fathers and for mothers to live a life that\u2019s honorable. And if you really love your kids, you\u2019re going to want to make it easy for them to be able to live out that commandment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the bad dads you listed from the Old Testament was Saul. You said he didn\u2019t leave a noble legacy to his descendants. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>He made it very, very difficult for his sons to honor him and his daughters to honor him because of the life that he lived. He was a man who kind of suffered from the fear of man. To some degree, he was disobedient to God. He treated his children harshly and others harshly\u2014was incredibly jealous of David to the point that he even tried to get his children to kill David\u2014his son, Jonathan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when they wouldn\u2019t do what he wanted him to do, there is a story in the Bible that he actually threw a spear at his son because he was so angry that his son wouldn\u2019t do something that was unjust \/ that was wrong. And you know, that\u2019s the kind of thing that happens when you make it difficult for your children to honor you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Jonathan\u2019s loyalty was much stronger to his friend, David, than it was to his father, who was trying to tell him to do these things. I mean, if Jonathan had to pick sides, he was siding with David\u2014not with Dad; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. The interesting thing to look at, in terms of him siding with a person\u2014but a lot of it was he was siding with honorableness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, David was living a life of honor, at that point in his life. Jonathan knew that David had many opportunities to kill Saul and he wouldn\u2019t do it. Why?\u00a0 Because David was honoring God because Saul was still God\u2019s elect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat Jonathan was drawn to in David was the very thing that he should have been drawn to in his own father, which was honorableness. When you are honorable, your children are drawn to that; especially, in this culture where there is so much dishonor and there are many people who would dishonor them. They\u2019ll be drawn to that. It\u2019s very compelling and very engaging, from my perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Most of your dads are famous dads that we\u2019ve heard of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of them, however, may take a little explanation for you to tell his story. You talk about how Manoah was a bad dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And some people are probably going\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cManoah?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI know I\u2019ve heard of Manoah. I know he\u2019s somewhere in the Bible.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They\u2019re confusing him with Noah. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But they do know his son, Samson, pretty well; don\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>They do. The story of Samson is one that people know well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd it\u2019s the story, in many ways, of squandered opportunity\u2014basically, a misuse of the talents that God has given you. And Manoah\u2019s sort of bad dad mistake was that he failed to tame his child\u2019s talents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I try to do with that particular story is to unpack a couple of things. The first thing is that every kid, in a sense, is a Samson\u2014in the sense that there is a God-given talent. If you don\u2019t take the time to really tame that talent, it could be used in a way that causes him to miss God\u2019s best and, at times, can be more destructive to other people as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re really talking about a dad who knows his flocks well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The Psalmist really commands a shepherd to know his flocks well. And when you say, \u201ctame,\u201d you\u2019re really talking about leveraging or feeding ability with a child\u2014helping them be a good steward of that gift \/ that talent that they have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes; yes, absolutely. And you see that principle really played out in the story where Jesus talks about the parable of the talents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe land owner\u2014he leaves\u2014and he gives one, five; and one, two; and then one, one. And you see what happens in that story that he\u2019s just as pleased with the one who multiples the five, who multiplies the two. He\u2019s just as pleased\u2014even though they had unequal talent, but they had equal character. And the reason why he is so disappointed with the one who didn\u2019t do anything\u2014it wasn\u2019t because he didn\u2019t multiply his talents. It was because the character that was underneath it\u2014was the reason why he didn\u2019t do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, even when you\u2019re talking about your kid\u2019s talents\u2014what you need to be dealing with, frankly, is the character underneath\u2014I think, particularly, if you have a child who has a talented area. A lot of times\u2014and particularly, if you see that early-on in them\u2014it\u2019s one that\u2019s significant in the culture\u2019s view. There is a temptation to not deal with that the way that you should. You can either accommodate the flaw that your child may have as it pertains to that talent or you may participate in a way that you should not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you see that in the story of Samson\u2014where he accommodated\u2014you know, when Samson wanted to have a wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that was not the kind that God had designed. He participated\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He wanted a Philistine wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and he came to his dad and said, \u201cGo get her for she looks good to me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And dad went along with that!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And he knew. Manoah was a godly man. If you read the Scriptures, you see that he was a godly man. And as soon as he found out that Samson was going to be a Nazarite\u2014from that moment, he went back\u2014and he went back, and he said, \u201cI want that angel to come back so I can learn how to raise this boy.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he knew how special that was; but it\u2019s a temptation that you have\u2014would be to accommodate. And he participated in the wedding even though he knew that the way that the wedding was structured was going to be a way that was going to be destructive. See, in that culture, a woman was supposed to go back with her husband to his people; but they structured the wedding in such a way and the marriage in such a way that she stayed with her people, which meant that Samson was going to have to go back to the Philistines again to get\u2014that\u2019s where he was. That\u2019s where his children were going to be. They were always going to have an ability to control him by using his wife. You see, early in that story, that they did just that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He was going to be unequally yoked; and then, he was going to live\u2014not among the godly\u2014but among the ungodly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And that\u2019s what his father facilitated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve got six ways men can be better dads; but before we get to those, I have to ask you to speak to this because there are dads who are listening to us, right now, who say, \u201cOkay, I\u2019m really going to be a good steward of my son or my daughter\u2019s talents,\u201d and they drive them off a cliff, trying to become an Olympic athlete \/ an all-pro tight-end. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, you had a son who played major college football at\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it was North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It was North Carolina. I wouldn\u2019t call that major college football. [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re going to get mail. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>We are in Arkansas. So, that\u2019s going to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I know one guy\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If he played at Eastern Carolina, it\u2019d be a different deal; but it was North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Our mutual friend at Biola, Tim Muehlhoff, will be writing us about this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; but anyway, dads can sometimes overdo it. They can turn it into a god. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Speak to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Taming your kid\u2019s talent doesn\u2019t mean that you possess their talent. You know, it\u2019s not controlling their talent in that sense or in any way that\u2019s going to be destructive or to give them the perspective that it\u2019s more about their doing than their being. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat really is\u2014Manoah did try to step in with Samson. What he was really talking about was his being like the underlying character. Again, the parable of the talent really, really reflects that. It is <em>their<\/em> talent that you\u2019re taming. You do not possess it. You do not own it; but you\u2019re, basically, trying to help them use that talent in the way that God has designed it to be used. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, when Justin started to show that he had some football ability\u2014and you played college ball for four years\u2014how did you handle not being the dad who is just there turning his kid into a football robot?\u00a0 How did you affirm what he was doing without getting carried away with it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Well, there are a couple things that happened there. One of them really was my experience playing football and having the view that that\u2019s not the end of the world \/ that\u2019s not the be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you\u2019re just one knee injury away from that. So, I think I had a sober view that way; but I think the bigger thing for me was trying to help him see God in football\u2014not to make football his god, but to make him see God in football. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when they won, we want to talk about that in the context of: \u201cWhat does that mean in terms of his relationship with God?\u201d\u00a0 And when they lost: \u201cWhat does that mean in terms of his relationship with God?\u201d and, \u201cWhat are the principles that you\u2019re taking from that when you have adversity?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I tell you\u2014there was one thing that happened that really kind of blew me away\u2014that really helped me see that he got this. He was all-state running back, and broke every record at his school, and the whole deal. And <em>The Washington Post<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> came to interview him. He had just done amazing in the state playoffs\u2014and they came to interview him. And the whole time, what he did was\u2014he deflected and talked about his team\u2014talked about his team\u2014talked about his team. I thought to myself, \u201cHe really gets it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I see him, even as a man, now\u2014he\u2019s 28\u2014he has that same character, even today. He still does that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s others-centered. Sports was a mechanism to help him do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what do we say about anything that we do?\u2014it\u2019s for our good and for God\u2019s glory. And when those talents are there\u2014that was what was supposed to happen with Samson. He got the powers for his good and for God\u2019s glory; and basically, what he ended up using them for was his good and his glory. When you do that, it\u2019s not God\u2019s design. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Alright; so, somebody who reads your book is going to see a lot of mistakes that dads have made\u2014some things not to do\u2014but once again, if you are sitting down with a new dad and you\u2019re saying: \u201cHere are the basics. Let me just lay out for you some principles that I would say are the core.\u201d\u00a0 What would you say to that new dad?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>The longest chapter in the book is \u201c6 Things That You Must Do to Be a GoodDad\u201d because being a good dad isn\u2019t about what mistakes that you don\u2019t make or what you don\u2019t do\u2014it\u2019s about what you do. And that\u2019s the thing, from my standpoint, that\u2019s very, very powerful. I wanted to make sure that I spent a lot of time focusing on that and trying to help you walk through some steps that I\u2019ve seen, over the years, working with thousands of fathers\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014some things that you must do in order to be a good dad. I kind of laid those things out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>The first one, really, is focused on this notion of good fathers affirm their children. I came across this one really in a very interesting way. I was going to speak at a prayer conference. I was kind of stumbling on what I needed to say. I was thumbing through my Bible, and I came across the passage in the Bible that talks about the baptism of Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d read that many, many times. It\u2019s in Matthew, Chapter 3, verses 16, and goes on into Chapter 4, verse 1, where Jesus goes out to be tempted by the devil. And as I read through that, God gave me an insight. And the insight that I got there was this notion of affirmation before temptation\u2014affirmation before temptation. <br><br>See, here was Jesus, fully man and fully God, but God the Father knew the <em>power <\/em>of an affirmation in His humanity: \u201cThis is my Son in whom I am well pleased with Him.\u201d\u00a0 Then, He goes out and then faces temptation. As you know, faced all the temptations, as we can get, and without sin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started to think about that. I said: \u201cMy gosh!, How powerful that is for earthly fathers\u201d\u2014this notion of affirmation before temptation because one of the things that we know is that the tempter will come. I don\u2019t care where you live\u2014I don\u2019t care where you live. The tempter will come. When you know <em>whose<\/em> you are, and you know <em>who<\/em> you are, no temptation is going to be able to seize you because everything that Satan offered to Jesus were things that He already had. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I started to think about how many children haven\u2019t heard that from their father\u2014have not heard, \u201cThis is my son. This is my daughter.\u201d\u00a0 And that affirmation was not in His doing because he hadn\u2019t started His ministry. It was in His being. That\u2019s a powerful, powerful example for any dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, affirmation is important. That\u2019s a critical role for a dad to play. What else?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>The other piece here is about good fathers are physically present. Kids spell love, \u201cT-I-M-E.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And I think one of the problems or challenges that guys do is\u2014they try to replace presence with presents\u2014with a \u201ct\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally, your kids want fathers that are not going to give of them\u2014they want fathers who are going to give <em>themselves<\/em>. And that\u2019s a really key role for you there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother key thing for good fathers is for them to be emotionally available. And you know, a lot of times when we think about that, we think about being emotionally available. Too often, fathers will put that in the mother\u2019s camp\u2014this whole notion around nurturing. But nurturing is something that good dads do. It means that you are supporting and being involved in every aspect of your child\u2019s growth and development. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, what does that look like?\u00a0 I mean, if a dad is going to be emotionally available, how do you let your kids know you\u2019re emotionally available?\u00a0 Some dads are going, \u201cI\u2019m not even sure what emotionally available means.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s easy to unpack it when you think about God\u2019s relationship with Christ. You know, God was a heavenly Father. He listened to Jesus\u2014you see that and Jesus talking about that in the Lord\u2019s Prayer. He protected Jesus\u2014and the angels came and warned Joseph before Herod could get to Him. He comforted Jesus\u2014that whole story at the Garden of Gethsemane. What was that about?\u00a0 That\u2019s comforting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe met Jesus at His point of need\u2014after He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. There were angels there for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, these are\u2014I mean, those four things\u2014if you are a dad\u2014and you are listening to your kids, and you\u2019re protecting your kids, and you\u2019re comforting them, and you are meeting them at their point of needs\u2014that\u2019s what nurturing really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a great picture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And we\u2019ve got the example, here in Scripture\u2014that helps us understand that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That is a great picture, indeed. And I couldn\u2019t agree more with what you\u2019ve done here in your book. You really challenge men to become the dad that God created them to be\u2014to be responsible for being a dad. And there is one last assignment I\u2019ve got for you before we\u2019re done today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I just want to turn to the men in our audience, Bob, and mention something, again, that I mentioned earlier this week. That is: \u201cI really challenge you. If you want to be a better dad and not a bad dad, if you want to be a better man and not just a mediocre man, get some other guys together\u2014maybe some fathers and sons\u2014and check out our <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series for men.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s practical. It\u2019s biblical. It\u2019s fun. It\u2019s entertaining. It\u2019s a 30-minute video you can watch with some guys. You can start talking about where you\u2019re running into difficulty, as a man, and what\u2019s challenging you and keeping you from being the man God made you to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, actually, the way this is set up\u2014it\u2019s a 10-week study for guys to go through. You get the DVD set, and you get manuals for the guys to go through it. And you can do this, by the way, in your living room with a group of four or five guys; or you can do it with all the guys in the church. We\u2019ve seen it happen both ways. But you watch about 30 minutes-worth of video each week. Then, you go through the workbook and have some discussion questions. It\u2019s a great study. I mean, we\u2019re hearing great stuff back from the guys who are going through the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> study. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, our team was hoping that, this summer, we\u2019d be able to get a lot of guys who would be willing to lead one of these studies. They\u2019re making a special offer available this week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you buy the video kit, we will send you five workbooks; and we\u2019ll pay for the workbooks. So, you buy the videos; we\u2019ll buy the workbooks for the guys. All you have to do is agree to take five guys through the study this summer. All you have to do is go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link where it says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d The information about the special offer for the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series is available there. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ll also find information about Roland Warren\u2019s book, <em>Bad Dads of the Bible<\/em>, which we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order that book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series or to order Roland Warren\u2019s book. And if you have any questions about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series, just call us. We\u2019ve got folks available who can answer any questions you might have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd real quickly, we want to remind you about the week that is left in our matching-gift fund campaign. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re hoping to take full advantage of a special matching gift that\u2019s been made available to us. Every donation we receive, between now and next week, is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $410,000. We\u2019ve heard from many of our listeners. We\u2019re grateful for that. But if you\u2019ve not yet made a donation, would you consider going online right now and make a one-time donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, knowing that that donation is going to be matched, dollar for dollar?\u00a0 Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation. Or mail a check to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at P O \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBox 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, it\u2019s been a treat to have Roland Warren on the broadcast. And you know, I knew about you back when you led the Fatherhood Initiative and, really, appreciated your leadership there. And I have heard a little of your story over the years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know that your dad, early in your life, divorced your mom. We\u2019ve been talking about doing a tribute. And I wonder: \u201cIf I had the ability\u2014your father is gone now\u2014if I had the ability to bring your dad back and seat him across the table from you,\u201d I wonder, \u201ccould you give him a 90-second tribute?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, I think I could. I mean, I heard a line, years ago, in a movie that \u201cThe pain then is part of the happiness now.\u201d\u00a0 As I said, earlier in the program, my father was a guy who was the life of the party. He was a godly man. You know, after he went through that period with my mom, he actually became a Christian\u2014and frankly, became a pastor and really changed but wasn\u2019t able to fully embrace this. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I would say that: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad, I\u2019m thankful for you\u2014that you inspired me around laughter and that you inspired me around being able to see the best in people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw that and observed as he interacted with other folks. It\u2019s a special gift. I think it\u2019s something that, from my standpoint, as a son, I certainly want to emulate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know he was a man that loved God\u2014and that was the desire of his heart\u2014to serve God. And that, from my standpoint, is an important aspect of who you are, as my father. Certainly, on my end, I want to pass on a legacy\u2014bits and pieces, obviously, I got from you\u2014but certainly want to pass on a better legacy, even to my own kids. And I think you\u2019d be proud of that.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2014 FamilyLife. 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Are you worthy of honor?","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-06-06.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What kind of a relationship should a father have with his son?\u00a0 Roland Warren says, \u201cWe have a really good example of what the father\/son relationship ought to look like in our Bibles.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>When you think about God\u2019s relationship with Christ\u2014you know, God was a heavenly Father. He listened to Jesus. You see that\u2014Jesus talked about that in the Lord\u2019s Prayer. He protected Jesus\u2014and the angels came and warned Joseph before Herod could get to Him. He comforted Jesus\u2014that whole story of the Garden of Gethsemane. What is that about?\u00a0 That\u2019s comforting. He met Jesus at His point of need after He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. There were angels there for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose four things\u2014if you\u2019re a dad\u2014and you\u2019re listening to your kids, and you\u2019re protecting your kids, and you\u2019re comforting them, and you\u2019re meeting them at their point of need\u2014that\u2019s what nurturing really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 6<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to get some better understanding of how we are to be a father to our children by looking at the good and the bad examples we find in Scripture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m trying to think: \u201cWhere is it in the Bible\u2014there is some place in the Bible\u2014I guess it\u2019s the Proverbs 31 woman, whose children rise up and call her blessed. Isn\u2019t that where it talks about that?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There is no place where it talks about the children rising up and calling their dad blessed; is there?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Is there?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Where?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s in the Ten Commandments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The fifth commandment\u2014it\u2019s the one with a promise. Exodus, Chapter 20, verse 12\u2014it says, \u201cHonor your father and your mother.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a question for you: \u201cAre you worthy of honor with your kids?\u00a0 Do you think they would say, \u2018You are worthy of honor\u2019?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ll answer it for you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>: Okay. [Laughter]\u00a0 Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014because it\u2019s a little self-serving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s a hard question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Tough crowd here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is. It is a tough\u2014but of course, you are. You\u2019ve lived an honorable life. You haven\u2019t lived a perfect life\u2014neither have I \/ neither has any dad\u2014but we\u2019re going to talk today about being an honorable dad that is worthy of honor and how we can do that in a practical way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s interesting that you should zero in on the fifth commandment, as well, because we have just recently released the 20<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary Edition of a book that you wrote, back when <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> was first getting started\u2014a book called <em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>. You really believe the fifth commandment is one that has been abandoned by this generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I just had a conversation with a young lady, whose dad is dying of cancer and he doesn\u2019t have long to live. I got a copy of this book, and pressed it into her hands, and said: \u201cYou\u2019ve got an assignment because he doesn\u2019t have long to live. You need to say it to him while he\u2019s alive and you need to put it in print.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd she said, \u201cOh, my brother and I\u2014we\u2019ll both do it.\u201d\u00a0 And I look forward to hearing the rest of the story on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut today, we\u2019ve got someone who has written his own book. It\u2019s called <em>Bad Dads<\/em>. Roland Warren joins us on the broadcast. He is the former President of the National Fatherhood Initiative\u2014a great organization. You\u2019re currently the President and CEO of Care Net\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014which is the nation\u2019s largest network of pregnancy resource centers. You and your wife, Yvette, have two grown sons. And you\u2019ve written this book, <em>Bad Dads<\/em>. I want us to go back to December 10, 2008, when two sons\u2014two brothers decided to make a phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, these two brothers\u2014they made a call. They had had a conversation with their father. He had basically revealed that everything that they believed about him and everything that they believed about their business was a sham. And\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, these two boys had been working for Dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And they were thinking that the business was on the up and up; and Dad sits them down and says, \u201cIt isn\u2019t all that it seemed to be.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s a house of cards. Essentially: \u201cI\u2019ve been lying to you for years, and I\u2019ve been lying to your mother for years, and I\u2019ve been lying to our friends for years. I\u2019ve been lying to our community for years.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And they blew the whistle?\u00a0 They called the FBI?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And they did. They did. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I have the headlines from <em>The<\/em> <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> of these\u2014what these two brothers did and the confession of a father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He said, \u201cAnd I have left my children and grandchildren a terrible legacy.\u201d\u00a0 You\u2019re, of course, talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Bernie Madoff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And your point is?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>People talk about it from the perspective of\u2014economics, and finance, and this, that, and the other, and bank accounts, and those kinds of things\u2014but really, it\u2019s a fatherhood story. It\u2019s a story about a father who, basically, made it difficult for his kids to honor him. That\u2019s one of the bad dad mistakes that I talk about quite a bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And it\u2019s interesting because, in your book about honoring your father and mother\u2014<em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>\u2014you make the point that some children do have a hard time finding much to honor their parents about. Yet, you challenge us\u2014all of us\u2014to look for the things\u2014and you say they are there if we will look; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They are usually there. I\u2019ve had a few people say they could never find it or find those things to honor their parents about; but I think most parents, even the ones who weren\u2019t what we would call great parents\u2014and speaking of fathers, now, who maybe were a bad dad\u2014there are those matters in their lives that you can find. You can find a way to honor them for the position they held in your life and what you learned from them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, your dad\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, my mother and father split up. He wasn\u2019t engaged with us on a day-to-day basis from the time I was about seven years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd even before that, he was starting to not be around. And you know, \u201cHow am I going to honor when I\u2019m angry, or when I feel hurt, or when I feel rejected, and things of that nature?\u201d\u00a0 And the fifth commandment doesn\u2019t give you that out. [Laughter]\u00a0 It really doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No, it really doesn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>It doesn\u2019t. But the flip side of that, to me\u2014and this was the epiphany I had when I was writing the book\u2014was that the fifth commandment\u2014we look at that commandment for kids\u2014but it really is just as much for adults because it\u2019s easier to honor someone who is honorable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you think about it, if you really love your children, then, basically, I\u2019m going to try to make sure that it\u2019s easy for them to follow the fifth commandment. In order for them to follow the fifth commandment, that means I\u2019m going to have to be honorable. So, there is an implied command in the fifth commandment for fathers and for mothers to live a life that\u2019s honorable. And if you really love your kids, you\u2019re going to want to make it easy for them to be able to live out that commandment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the bad dads you listed from the Old Testament was Saul. You said he didn\u2019t leave a noble legacy to his descendants. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>He made it very, very difficult for his sons to honor him and his daughters to honor him because of the life that he lived. He was a man who kind of suffered from the fear of man. To some degree, he was disobedient to God. He treated his children harshly and others harshly\u2014was incredibly jealous of David to the point that he even tried to get his children to kill David\u2014his son, Jonathan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when they wouldn\u2019t do what he wanted him to do, there is a story in the Bible that he actually threw a spear at his son because he was so angry that his son wouldn\u2019t do something that was unjust \/ that was wrong. And you know, that\u2019s the kind of thing that happens when you make it difficult for your children to honor you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Jonathan\u2019s loyalty was much stronger to his friend, David, than it was to his father, who was trying to tell him to do these things. I mean, if Jonathan had to pick sides, he was siding with David\u2014not with Dad; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. The interesting thing to look at, in terms of him siding with a person\u2014but a lot of it was he was siding with honorableness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, David was living a life of honor, at that point in his life. Jonathan knew that David had many opportunities to kill Saul and he wouldn\u2019t do it. Why?\u00a0 Because David was honoring God because Saul was still God\u2019s elect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat Jonathan was drawn to in David was the very thing that he should have been drawn to in his own father, which was honorableness. When you are honorable, your children are drawn to that; especially, in this culture where there is so much dishonor and there are many people who would dishonor them. They\u2019ll be drawn to that. It\u2019s very compelling and very engaging, from my perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Most of your dads are famous dads that we\u2019ve heard of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of them, however, may take a little explanation for you to tell his story. You talk about how Manoah was a bad dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And some people are probably going\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cManoah?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI know I\u2019ve heard of Manoah. I know he\u2019s somewhere in the Bible.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They\u2019re confusing him with Noah. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But they do know his son, Samson, pretty well; don\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>They do. The story of Samson is one that people know well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd it\u2019s the story, in many ways, of squandered opportunity\u2014basically, a misuse of the talents that God has given you. And Manoah\u2019s sort of bad dad mistake was that he failed to tame his child\u2019s talents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I try to do with that particular story is to unpack a couple of things. The first thing is that every kid, in a sense, is a Samson\u2014in the sense that there is a God-given talent. If you don\u2019t take the time to really tame that talent, it could be used in a way that causes him to miss God\u2019s best and, at times, can be more destructive to other people as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re really talking about a dad who knows his flocks well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The Psalmist really commands a shepherd to know his flocks well. And when you say, \u201ctame,\u201d you\u2019re really talking about leveraging or feeding ability with a child\u2014helping them be a good steward of that gift \/ that talent that they have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes; yes, absolutely. And you see that principle really played out in the story where Jesus talks about the parable of the talents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe land owner\u2014he leaves\u2014and he gives one, five; and one, two; and then one, one. And you see what happens in that story that he\u2019s just as pleased with the one who multiples the five, who multiplies the two. He\u2019s just as pleased\u2014even though they had unequal talent, but they had equal character. And the reason why he is so disappointed with the one who didn\u2019t do anything\u2014it wasn\u2019t because he didn\u2019t multiply his talents. It was because the character that was underneath it\u2014was the reason why he didn\u2019t do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, even when you\u2019re talking about your kid\u2019s talents\u2014what you need to be dealing with, frankly, is the character underneath\u2014I think, particularly, if you have a child who has a talented area. A lot of times\u2014and particularly, if you see that early-on in them\u2014it\u2019s one that\u2019s significant in the culture\u2019s view. There is a temptation to not deal with that the way that you should. You can either accommodate the flaw that your child may have as it pertains to that talent or you may participate in a way that you should not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you see that in the story of Samson\u2014where he accommodated\u2014you know, when Samson wanted to have a wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that was not the kind that God had designed. He participated\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He wanted a Philistine wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and he came to his dad and said, \u201cGo get her for she looks good to me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And dad went along with that!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And he knew. Manoah was a godly man. If you read the Scriptures, you see that he was a godly man. And as soon as he found out that Samson was going to be a Nazarite\u2014from that moment, he went back\u2014and he went back, and he said, \u201cI want that angel to come back so I can learn how to raise this boy.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he knew how special that was; but it\u2019s a temptation that you have\u2014would be to accommodate. And he participated in the wedding even though he knew that the way that the wedding was structured was going to be a way that was going to be destructive. See, in that culture, a woman was supposed to go back with her husband to his people; but they structured the wedding in such a way and the marriage in such a way that she stayed with her people, which meant that Samson was going to have to go back to the Philistines again to get\u2014that\u2019s where he was. That\u2019s where his children were going to be. They were always going to have an ability to control him by using his wife. You see, early in that story, that they did just that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He was going to be unequally yoked; and then, he was going to live\u2014not among the godly\u2014but among the ungodly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And that\u2019s what his father facilitated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve got six ways men can be better dads; but before we get to those, I have to ask you to speak to this because there are dads who are listening to us, right now, who say, \u201cOkay, I\u2019m really going to be a good steward of my son or my daughter\u2019s talents,\u201d and they drive them off a cliff, trying to become an Olympic athlete \/ an all-pro tight-end. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, you had a son who played major college football at\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it was North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It was North Carolina. I wouldn\u2019t call that major college football. [Laughter]\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We\u2019re going to get mail. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>We are in Arkansas. So, that\u2019s going to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I know one guy\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If he played at Eastern Carolina, it\u2019d be a different deal; but it was North Carolina. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Our mutual friend at Biola, Tim Muehlhoff, will be writing us about this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; but anyway, dads can sometimes overdo it. They can turn it into a god. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Speak to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Taming your kid\u2019s talent doesn\u2019t mean that you possess their talent. You know, it\u2019s not controlling their talent in that sense or in any way that\u2019s going to be destructive or to give them the perspective that it\u2019s more about their doing than their being. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat really is\u2014Manoah did try to step in with Samson. What he was really talking about was his being like the underlying character. Again, the parable of the talent really, really reflects that. It is <em>their<\/em> talent that you\u2019re taming. You do not possess it. You do not own it; but you\u2019re, basically, trying to help them use that talent in the way that God has designed it to be used. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, when Justin started to show that he had some football ability\u2014and you played college ball for four years\u2014how did you handle not being the dad who is just there turning his kid into a football robot?\u00a0 How did you affirm what he was doing without getting carried away with it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Well, there are a couple things that happened there. One of them really was my experience playing football and having the view that that\u2019s not the end of the world \/ that\u2019s not the be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you\u2019re just one knee injury away from that. So, I think I had a sober view that way; but I think the bigger thing for me was trying to help him see God in football\u2014not to make football his god, but to make him see God in football. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when they won, we want to talk about that in the context of: \u201cWhat does that mean in terms of his relationship with God?\u201d\u00a0 And when they lost: \u201cWhat does that mean in terms of his relationship with God?\u201d and, \u201cWhat are the principles that you\u2019re taking from that when you have adversity?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I tell you\u2014there was one thing that happened that really kind of blew me away\u2014that really helped me see that he got this. He was all-state running back, and broke every record at his school, and the whole deal. And <em>The Washington Post<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> came to interview him. He had just done amazing in the state playoffs\u2014and they came to interview him. And the whole time, what he did was\u2014he deflected and talked about his team\u2014talked about his team\u2014talked about his team. I thought to myself, \u201cHe really gets it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I see him, even as a man, now\u2014he\u2019s 28\u2014he has that same character, even today. He still does that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s others-centered. Sports was a mechanism to help him do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what do we say about anything that we do?\u2014it\u2019s for our good and for God\u2019s glory. And when those talents are there\u2014that was what was supposed to happen with Samson. He got the powers for his good and for God\u2019s glory; and basically, what he ended up using them for was his good and his glory. When you do that, it\u2019s not God\u2019s design. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Alright; so, somebody who reads your book is going to see a lot of mistakes that dads have made\u2014some things not to do\u2014but once again, if you are sitting down with a new dad and you\u2019re saying: \u201cHere are the basics. Let me just lay out for you some principles that I would say are the core.\u201d\u00a0 What would you say to that new dad?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>The longest chapter in the book is \u201c6 Things That You Must Do to Be a GoodDad\u201d because being a good dad isn\u2019t about what mistakes that you don\u2019t make or what you don\u2019t do\u2014it\u2019s about what you do. And that\u2019s the thing, from my standpoint, that\u2019s very, very powerful. I wanted to make sure that I spent a lot of time focusing on that and trying to help you walk through some steps that I\u2019ve seen, over the years, working with thousands of fathers\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014some things that you must do in order to be a good dad. I kind of laid those things out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>The first one, really, is focused on this notion of good fathers affirm their children. I came across this one really in a very interesting way. I was going to speak at a prayer conference. I was kind of stumbling on what I needed to say. I was thumbing through my Bible, and I came across the passage in the Bible that talks about the baptism of Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d read that many, many times. It\u2019s in Matthew, Chapter 3, verses 16, and goes on into Chapter 4, verse 1, where Jesus goes out to be tempted by the devil. And as I read through that, God gave me an insight. And the insight that I got there was this notion of affirmation before temptation\u2014affirmation before temptation. <br><br>See, here was Jesus, fully man and fully God, but God the Father knew the <em>power <\/em>of an affirmation in His humanity: \u201cThis is my Son in whom I am well pleased with Him.\u201d\u00a0 Then, He goes out and then faces temptation. As you know, faced all the temptations, as we can get, and without sin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started to think about that. I said: \u201cMy gosh!, How powerful that is for earthly fathers\u201d\u2014this notion of affirmation before temptation because one of the things that we know is that the tempter will come. I don\u2019t care where you live\u2014I don\u2019t care where you live. The tempter will come. When you know <em>whose<\/em> you are, and you know <em>who<\/em> you are, no temptation is going to be able to seize you because everything that Satan offered to Jesus were things that He already had. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I started to think about how many children haven\u2019t heard that from their father\u2014have not heard, \u201cThis is my son. This is my daughter.\u201d\u00a0 And that affirmation was not in His doing because he hadn\u2019t started His ministry. It was in His being. That\u2019s a powerful, powerful example for any dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, affirmation is important. That\u2019s a critical role for a dad to play. What else?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>The other piece here is about good fathers are physically present. Kids spell love, \u201cT-I-M-E.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And I think one of the problems or challenges that guys do is\u2014they try to replace presence with presents\u2014with a \u201ct\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally, your kids want fathers that are not going to give of them\u2014they want fathers who are going to give <em>themselves<\/em>. And that\u2019s a really key role for you there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother key thing for good fathers is for them to be emotionally available. And you know, a lot of times when we think about that, we think about being emotionally available. Too often, fathers will put that in the mother\u2019s camp\u2014this whole notion around nurturing. But nurturing is something that good dads do. It means that you are supporting and being involved in every aspect of your child\u2019s growth and development. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, what does that look like?\u00a0 I mean, if a dad is going to be emotionally available, how do you let your kids know you\u2019re emotionally available?\u00a0 Some dads are going, \u201cI\u2019m not even sure what emotionally available means.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s easy to unpack it when you think about God\u2019s relationship with Christ. You know, God was a heavenly Father. He listened to Jesus\u2014you see that and Jesus talking about that in the Lord\u2019s Prayer. He protected Jesus\u2014and the angels came and warned Joseph before Herod could get to Him. He comforted Jesus\u2014that whole story at the Garden of Gethsemane. What was that about?\u00a0 That\u2019s comforting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe met Jesus at His point of need\u2014after He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. There were angels there for Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, these are\u2014I mean, those four things\u2014if you are a dad\u2014and you are listening to your kids, and you\u2019re protecting your kids, and you\u2019re comforting them, and you are meeting them at their point of needs\u2014that\u2019s what nurturing really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a great picture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Roland: <\/strong>And we\u2019ve got the example, here in Scripture\u2014that helps us understand that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That is a great picture, indeed. And I couldn\u2019t agree more with what you\u2019ve done here in your book. You really challenge men to become the dad that God created them to be\u2014to be responsible for being a dad. And there is one last assignment I\u2019ve got for you before we\u2019re done today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I just want to turn to the men in our audience, Bob, and mention something, again, that I mentioned earlier this week. That is: \u201cI really challenge you. If you want to be a better dad and not a bad dad, if you want to be a better man and not just a mediocre man, get some other guys together\u2014maybe some fathers and sons\u2014and check out our <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series for men.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s practical. It\u2019s biblical. It\u2019s fun. It\u2019s entertaining. It\u2019s a 30-minute video you can watch with some guys. You can start talking about where you\u2019re running into difficulty, as a man, and what\u2019s challenging you and keeping you from being the man God made you to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, actually, the way this is set up\u2014it\u2019s a 10-week study for guys to go through. You get the DVD set, and you get manuals for the guys to go through it. And you can do this, by the way, in your living room with a group of four or five guys; or you can do it with all the guys in the church. We\u2019ve seen it happen both ways. But you watch about 30 minutes-worth of video each week. Then, you go through the workbook and have some discussion questions. It\u2019s a great study. I mean, we\u2019re hearing great stuff back from the guys who are going through the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> study. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, our team was hoping that, this summer, we\u2019d be able to get a lot of guys who would be willing to lead one of these studies. They\u2019re making a special offer available this week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you buy the video kit, we will send you five workbooks; and we\u2019ll pay for the workbooks. So, you buy the videos; we\u2019ll buy the workbooks for the guys. All you have to do is agree to take five guys through the study this summer. All you have to do is go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link where it says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d The information about the special offer for the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series is available there. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ll also find information about Roland Warren\u2019s book, <em>Bad Dads of the Bible<\/em>, which we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order that book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series or to order Roland Warren\u2019s book. And if you have any questions about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> series, just call us. We\u2019ve got folks available who can answer any questions you might have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd real quickly, we want to remind you about the week that is left in our matching-gift fund campaign. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re hoping to take full advantage of a special matching gift that\u2019s been made available to us. Every donation we receive, between now and next week, is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $410,000. We\u2019ve heard from many of our listeners. We\u2019re grateful for that. But if you\u2019ve not yet made a donation, would you consider going online right now and make a one-time donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, knowing that that donation is going to be matched, dollar for dollar?\u00a0 Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation. Or mail a check to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at P O \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBox 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, it\u2019s been a treat to have Roland Warren on the broadcast. And you know, I knew about you back when you led the Fatherhood Initiative and, really, appreciated your leadership there. And I have heard a little of your story over the years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know that your dad, early in your life, divorced your mom. We\u2019ve been talking about doing a tribute. And I wonder: \u201cIf I had the ability\u2014your father is gone now\u2014if I had the ability to bring your dad back and seat him across the table from you,\u201d I wonder, \u201ccould you give him a 90-second tribute?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Roland: <\/strong>Yes, I think I could. I mean, I heard a line, years ago, in a movie that \u201cThe pain then is part of the happiness now.\u201d\u00a0 As I said, earlier in the program, my father was a guy who was the life of the party. He was a godly man. You know, after he went through that period with my mom, he actually became a Christian\u2014and frankly, became a pastor and really changed but wasn\u2019t able to fully embrace this. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I would say that: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad, I\u2019m thankful for you\u2014that you inspired me around laughter and that you inspired me around being able to see the best in people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw that and observed as he interacted with other folks. It\u2019s a special gift. I think it\u2019s something that, from my standpoint, as a son, I certainly want to emulate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I know he was a man that loved God\u2014and that was the desire of his heart\u2014to serve God. And that, from my standpoint, is an important aspect of who you are, as my father. Certainly, on my end, I want to pass on a legacy\u2014bits and pieces, obviously, I got from you\u2014but certainly want to pass on a better legacy, even to my own kids. And I think you\u2019d be proud of that.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2014 FamilyLife. 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