{"id":303043,"date":"2014-05-08T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-05-08T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/courage-in-numbers\/"},"modified":"2014-05-08T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-05-08T15:00:00","slug":"courage-in-numbers","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/courage-in-numbers\/","title":{"rendered":"Courage in Numbers"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tracey Eyster and Sherry Surratt encourage moms to break free from isolation and find other moms to link arms with.  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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Okay, \u201cEvery mom\u2014take a deep breath; alright?\u2014deep, cleansing breath.\u201d\u00a0 [Deep breath] Hang in there. We\u2019re going to offer some help today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI feel a little bit like\u2014and see, I don\u2019t even know if people know who Siskel and Ebert are anymore. We\u2019re talking about movies this week. Young people are going, \u201cWho are Siskel and Ebert?\u201d\u00a0 But we grew up, watching them\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014movie critics from back before the earth\u2019s crust hardened. [Laughter]\u00a0 That was centuries ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re talking about <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, which is occurring this weekend. We want to encourage listeners to go see that\u2014really is a movie that has got some high-quality values. The thing I like about it most is it values moms. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a couple of moms with us today. Sherry Surratt and Tracey Eyster join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Tracey, Sherry, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Well, thank you. It\u2019s great to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Sherry is\u2014she is married to Jeff since 1982. She has two children, two granddaughters, and is the President and CEO of MOPS\u2014which is not a cleaning service\u2014but it works with mothers of pre-school children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey Eyster works here, at FamilyLife, with <em>MomLife Today<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe\u2019s married to Bill since 1986. They have two children. And not too far off in the future, she\u2019s going to be an empty-nester; but she\u2019s kind of ready because she\u2019s got something she\u2019s birthed over the past half dozen years\u2014MomLifeToday.com. Explain to our listeners what <em>MomLife Today<\/em> is all about because it\u2019s one of the fastest-growing ministries, here at FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong><em>MomLife Today<\/em> is all about encouraging moms. We are a group of moms in every age, and every stage of mom life, with all different type life circumstances. We just want to provide help and hope to all those moms out there, but the great thing is we make it very clear that we don\u2019t have it all figured out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>We kind of talk about our own beautiful messes in motherhood\u2014but just wanting to encourage moms and point them to the One who does have it all figured out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And Dennis said that you\u2019re all ready for this empty-nest phase; is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I really think I am. Dennis, I have to give a little bit of credit of that to your beautiful wife Barbara and her friend, Susan,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because they wrote the <em>Guide to the Empty Nest<\/em>. I read it four years ago because I thought, \u201cOkay, if this is coming, I want to know how to be prepared for it.\u201d Truly, reading it while my children were still in high school helped me be ready. I think I am. We can ask my husband\u2014I think I have been a little bit more emotional lately\u2014maybe, we shouldn\u2019t ask my husband!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Maybe we should just check in about six months and see how you are doing then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes, let\u2019s try that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think we may do that, but MomLifeToday.com has bloggers from all walks of motherhood\u2014mothers who are in blended families\u2014single-parent families. Explain the topics that you\u2019ll kind of talk about on <em>MomLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Our heart is for moms to all come together. Our tagline is \u201cEVERY MOMent COUNTS!\u201d or \u201cEvery Mom Counts!\u201d\u00a0 We really want moms to share their lives. So, you\u2019re right. We have single moms, blended-family moms\u2014we have moms of children with special needs. We have adoptive moms;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014foster moms; moms of babies, toddlers, teens, adult children, grandchildren. What we really want is for us to understand each other\u2019s lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t know how to love on, or take care of, or spend time with a mom with a child of special needs until I started reading Jennifer Dyer\u2019s blog posts. I started understanding her world and how she lived. It helped me to understand how to interact with her. That\u2019s our hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere were a lot of blogs out there that were about one thing. So, when you went to that blog, you would just read that one thing. Well, we mixed them all up. Six years ago, that was unheard of. We all came together to share our lives so that we can be on the lookout for those other moms, different than us, and how can we be together in community to encourage each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you and Sherry found, as you pressed into the needs of moms, that they need to get together in groups and get together around the Scripture. You guys have collaborated to produce a study for moms of all walks of life\u2014just like what you\u2019re talking about Tracey\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014called <em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I\u2019m just wondering if you guys had a posse when your kids were young. Yes, I\u2019m thinking about the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There was a posse in there\u2014four women. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Four women get together. They are in different age groups \/ different phases of life. There is a single mom. There\u2019s a pastor\u2019s wife\u2014the whole thing. Did you have a group that you got together with regularly when your kids were growing up?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, I would just like to say that I think the movie modeled it right because what the movie modeled was all those moms didn\u2019t necessarily know each other real well. All of those moms were not just alike. They were from different walks of life. So, first of all, kudos to the Erwin brothers because the movie does do it the way we are supposed to do it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me, when my children were little, I had one <em>really<\/em> close friend. We would take turns watching each other\u2019s kids. So, I always had that one really close friend. Then, I was always part of Bible study groups or play groups where you would get together with different moms. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, sometimes, we fear, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t want them to see all my uglies because then they won\u2019t like me.\u201d\u00a0 So, sometimes, we just stay back when we shouldn\u2019t. So, yes, I\u2019ve always had a posse and a group of moms through every stage\u2014and maybe, as I got older, I did better of making it different types of moms and different ages; but I just want this to be sort of a rallying cry to all those moms out there: \u201cDon\u2019t just look for moms just like you.\u201d\u00a0 No matter who the mom is\u2014if you know that she needs encouragement, just be bold. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDid you find that to be true, Sherry, when you watched this movie\u2014did it encourage you as to how it should be done?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely did. It reminded me to look around for the mom alone. You know, that\u2019s something we say at MOPS, \u201cNo mom alone.\u201d\u00a0 It really should be our anthem cry. And there are moms alone, though. In fact, the statistics say, right down the street, within a mile of where you live, there is a mom that is sitting there wondering what she\u2019s going to do about tomorrow. She doesn\u2019t know how to face her situation, and she is feeling incredibly alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReach out. Look for that mom, and they will surprise you in the type of friendship that you can form. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you have a posse?\u00a0 Did you have a group of moms?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, I absolutely did. Yes. And you know, as a young mom, I was a youth pastor\u2019s wife. Sometimes, that can be a little isolating. Sometimes, you don\u2019t feel like you completely fit with every other mom. I would try to just make myself forget that and look for a circle of friends who, number one, loved to have fun; and, number two, didn\u2019t take their selves too seriously; and, number three, just loved me\u2014warts and all. We would go out and just have fun and laugh about silly things. That\u2019s really, really important. It makes you feel like a human. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I have to tell you. When my wife would go out and do that\u2014what I got back at the end of the night was a healthier, happier fresher wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014than I had before that. And you started to learn\u2014giving up a night like that, and taking care of the kids, while she\u2019s out having some fun\u2014there is a payback. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I found there was a payback in those evenings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There is a lot of fun in being a mom, but you\u2019ve got to kind of search for it at times. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>You do. I was talking\u2014I love to collect mom stories. I was talking to a young mom who blogged about this; and then, she talked to me about it later. She said, one Saturday morning, her doorbell rang. She came to the door; opened it. There was a police officer standing there. He said, \u201cMa\u2019am, we\u2019ve had a report from a neighbor that you have naked people running around in your yard.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, she was the mom of four boys. Her middle son, at that moment, walked up right beside her, without a stitch on except his tennis shoes. He\u2019d been running around in the yard. She said she was so frustrated and embarrassed. She just took the child by the arm, took him back inside\u2014said, \u201cOfficer, I\u2019m so sorry we had a neighbor who actually felt like they had to complain about that.\u201d\u00a0 And she shut the door. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, that night, she had a night out with the girls. She was telling this story; and she said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cThey busted out laughing about the fact that a neighbor would call because your children are running around naked in the yard.\u201d\u00a0 The police officer had said to the little boy, \u201cWell, keep it up, son!\u201d\u00a0 You know\u2014just kind of laughing. She said she was able, at that moment, to remind herself: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 That is funny. Sometimes, your kids will strip naked and do crazy things.\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cSometimes, you just need to laugh about it, as a mom.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the power of your posse because they can remind you, \u201cStop taking that so seriously and just laugh!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the legendary stories in my daughter, Ashley\u2019s, life\u2014who has five boys, ages five to fourteen\u2014is finding one of her children on the roof. It\u2019s a fairly tall house. So, if they fell, it would be\u2014it could be trouble. Yet, she somehow has learned the art of maintaining laughter and finding fun in the midst of hare-brained\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Mess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes\u2014that\u2019s exactly right. I\u2019m wondering about you, Tracey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou like to have fun. What was your favorite thing to do with your posse\u2014the group of young moms that you headed out with?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I would say the favorite thing is that it was the never the same thing. We never sort of let anything become kind of boring, and rote, and the same old thing. We would always look for something interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember when I lived in one small town that shall remain nameless\u2014that I said: \u201cLet\u2019s get together and go out of state. Let\u2019s go.\u201d We were actually going to a women\u2019s event. Of the five women in the car, three of them had never been out of the state. First of all, that was shocking to me, as someone that had moved around a lot. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get in the car, and we\u2019re starting to drive out of town. I was like, \u201cOkay, what do we all want to do right now?\u201d\u00a0 Without checking each other\u2019s notes and without wondering, we all just started screaming. We just started screaming that: \u201cI\u2019m free!\u00a0 I\u2019m free!\u201d\u00a0 Then, the music got really loud. [Laughter]\u00a0 I remember, when I told my husband that\u2014his looking at me like I was a nut job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was like: \u201cWhat do you mean you were screaming?!\u00a0 What do you mean you were free?!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m like, \u201cBill, do you know what it\u2019s like to go through 24 hours a day, seven days a week\u2014where you feel <em>so <\/em>responsible for another person that you can\u2019t just breathe, and just scream, and know that everything was going to be okay?\u201d\u00a0 Now, that may sound really dramatic to Bob Lepine and Dennis Rainey, but that\u2019s how we feel!\u00a0 [Increased speed of talking] We <em>constantly<\/em> just <em>feel<\/em> like we have to be responsible for everything! [Sigh]\u00a0 Okay, I\u2019ll calm down now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s interesting because even in Dennis\u2019s question\u2014and I\u2019d ask the same question\u2014\u201cWhat did you guys get together and do?\u201d\u00a0 As guys, we think about: \u201cWhat are we going to do?\u201d\u00a0 As women, you\u2019re thinking about spending time with one another, talking. The doing is really secondary to just the relationship; isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right. It\u2019s not really about what you do so much. Sometimes, we would just sit and just eat and just sit around the table and talk. I think it was more the connection of our hearts and sharing our imperfectness with each other, and it being okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember, one time, my friends came over for Chinese food over at my house; and we just sat around the table. The chop sticks on the table reminded one of the ladies to tell a story about how her husband had tried to fix the toilet with a chop stick. You know\u2014how like the flappy ball-thing or whatever wasn\u2019t working. So, he tried to prop it up. We just all got to laughing so hard. You know\u2014\u201cThat\u2019s life!\u201d\u00a0 We didn\u2019t do anything that night other than just sit, and eat, and talk. It was wonderful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think God made us to laugh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>I do too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think moms need to laugh. They need to get out with other moms and just let go a bit because there is a good bit of the job of being parents of children\u2014as they go through adolescence\u2014you\u2019re going to run into some rebels. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: You\u2019re going to run into some that push back against the standards and against how you\u2019re trying to raise them. I\u2019m going to tell you something. There is nothing like this\u2014for a dad or a mom\u2014like having a child who doesn\u2019t like you; doesn\u2019t want to be in your home, your family, your rules, your boundaries;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and frankly, wants out. Those moms need encouragement, as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>They do. They do\u2014especially, for moms who have middle schoolers and high schoolers in that stage. Sometimes, their attitudes can be absolutely overwhelming; and you just want to run away from that. That\u2019s normal. I think you need to look for another mom who might need encouragement and be able to invite her to step outside of herself and laugh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember picking up my daughter from middle school one day. She was reminding me, in the car, of everything I had not done that day that I was supposed to do: \u201cWhere was her money that she told me she needed for her science project?\u201d and, \u201cWhere was that note that she had laid on the table for me to sign, and I hadn\u2019t put it back in her book bag?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we drove up to the house, it was her turn to go get the garbage cans and bring them back up to the front of the house. I reminded her of that. She slammed the door and stomped down the driveway. Pretty soon, though, she called to me. She said, \u201cMom, come here!\u201d\u00a0 She wanted me to come out to the end of the driveway with her. So, I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere, lying at the end of the driveway, were some of my underwear that I had cleaned out the day before and bagged up in some bags and put it out in the trash can. Well, obviously, when the trash men had dumped it out, they had ripped the bags. Some had fallen out, laying there at the end of the driveway, all day long, for people to see. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tried to explain it to my daughter. I said: \u201cSweetheart, I cleaned out my lingerie drawer. I had to throw this away. I double-bagged it\u2014I put it in the can.\u201d\u00a0 She did <em>not<\/em> want to hear it. She turned around, stomped back up the driveway; and I heard her mutter, \u201cNow, we\u2019re going to have to move!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 She was just humiliated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it\u2019s on those days, when you really feel like a failure, that you need another mom to come around alongside you and just say: \u201cYes, I\u2019ve had something like that happen too. Yes, my kids have been disgusted with me; and it\u2019s going to be alright.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want one of you to talk about this because I think this is what\u2019s missing today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that keeps this group of moms from connecting together and sharing life with one another. Talk about how it just takes one mom to initiate, and step out, and be courageous enough to say: \u201cHey, I\u2019m starting a group. Would you like to join me?\u201d\u00a0 Why is it that seems so bold and so courageous for a mom to have to ask?\u00a0 Is she afraid that everyone is going to say, \u201cNo\u201d; or they\u2019ll think she\u2019s weird?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was thinking of Mothers of Pre-Schoolers. I was thinking, as you were describing the moms who get together in MOPS, that every mom would go, \u201cI would <em>love<\/em> to be a part of a group like that\u201d; and every mom would go: \u201cbut I\u2019m not leading a group like that,\u201d because, all of a sudden, you feel like you\u2019re saying, \u201cHey, I\u2019m the mom who has got it together. You want to get together with me?\u201d\u2014right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Right; yes. You know, once you do get together with other moms, you realize, \u201cThere is no mom in this circle that has it all together.\u201d\u00a0 There is no perfect mom. There is no perfect standard there. We have a book at MOPS, coming out this fall, called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>Brave Mom: Facing and Overcoming Your Real Mom Fears<\/em>. We talk to Mom about taking just small steps\u2014take a small step of just reaching out and inviting someone to come be with you\u2014to be in a group. You know what, moms?\u00a0 If you don\u2019t feel like leading a group, that\u2019s okay. Just get together with another group of moms. I bet, in that group, there will be one mom who would say, \u201cYes, I\u2019ll lead that.\u201d\u00a0 Once you take small steps of courage, you realize, \u201cOh, this isn\u2019t that hard.\u201d\u00a0 And you are encouraged to do even more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tracey, challenge that woman, who is listening right now, who is a mom who just needs an older mom to put her arm around her and say, \u201cYou can do this thing.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Most of us just don\u2019t think that it\u2019s us that are supposed to reach out. I have a classic example because we have moved several times. When we made our last move, I kept looking around me and seeing all of these great people that I felt like I wanted to spend time with; and I didn\u2019t have the guts to reach out. I was kind of holding back for a while. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, finally, what I did\u2014I kept praying about it and thinking about it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and the four moms that I called, they didn\u2019t know each other. I knew each of them, sort of. They all showed up at my house. Even in that first meeting, each one of them\u2014some of them that had lived in that community their whole lives \/ some that had been there a few years\u2014each one of them said, \u201cThey had been <em>waiting<\/em> for someone to call.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I don\u2019t know what it takes for us, Sherry and I\u2014I mean here Sherry runs an organization that has that figured out. They know that when moms gather, God can do powerful things in their lives. So, what I would challenge you is\u2014to stop, think, look around you. Who else do you know needs a friend?\u2014and just be brave and make that call. Because what I can tell you now\u2014my relationship with Christ is fuller because of these moms that we have shared life with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s the uglies. I have wept with these women. I have learned things about them that help me know how I can minister to other people, and I have been vulnerable. I have shared things about myself that I\u2019ve never wanted to share with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou never know who out there needs to be pulled in and spent time with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I can just touch on the fact\u2014one of my favorite things about <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em> is the way that young mom reached out to the pastor\u2019s wife. I had a friend\u2014when we lived in West Virginia\u2014who was a pastor\u2019s wife. She constantly talked about how much pressure she was under and how she never felt like she could be herself. If I feel it, how much more does a pastor\u2019s wife feel it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I want to challenge you: \u201cWhat pastor\u2019s wife in your church spends week after week, alone\u2014who doesn\u2019t get invited to go out to go bowling; who doesn\u2019t get invited over to the house, just to chat?\u00a0 You know, if you are listening to this right now, I\u2019ve got to believe that God wanted you to be the one to make that phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There is a phrase, used by an educator, back on the East Coast, that I\u2019ve used many times to characterize where I think people are today. The phrase is: \u201cWe suffer today from crowded loneliness.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re around a lot of people. We \u201cknow\u201d a lot of people; but we\u2019re not relating to people who know us, and who we\u2019re transparent with, and they are willing to be transparent with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEverybody tends to think their mess is worse than other people\u2019s mess, and those people are usually isolated. As I\u2019ve looked at what\u2019s happened in marriages over the past, almost four decades, I think one of the chief strategies of the devil of hell is to get followers of Christ isolated from other followers of Christ, who could encourage one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHebrews, Chapter 10, talks about not forsaking the assembling together with other believers. And yes, I believe that\u2019s primarily talking about church; but I think it also is talking about believers getting together with other believers, in the Bible,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and getting honest and real with one another about what they\u2019re facing, and what\u2019s knocking the props out from under them, and how they need help and hope in what they\u2019re facing in life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just appreciate you ladies writing this Bible study, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>, and both your ministries. Sherry, Tracey, you guys are heroes. I appreciate your being champions of moms because I think that moms need champions today as never before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Thank you. Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I\u2019m thinking how easy it would be and how much fun it would be for a mom to send an evite, or an email, or a text to a group of friends, who are moms, and say, \u201cWhy don\u2019t we have a moms\u2019 night out this weekend and go to the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>?\u201d\u00a0 Then, after the movie is over\u2014after you\u2019ve had a good time together\u2014just say, \u201cWhat do you think about getting together six times this summer and going through the study I heard about on the radio called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment<\/em>?\u201d\u00a0 It is six sessions. The material and the conversations that will take place, that are prompted by this study, will be invaluable to every mom who decides to do that. Find out more. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. In the upper left-hand corner of the homepage, you\u2019ll see a link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 Click there. There is information about the Bible study for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>. You can order the study from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is also a link to the <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em> movie website. If you want to watch the trailer or find out more about the movie, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 All the information you need is available there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019d like to order the study guide for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>, you can also call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was having a conversation, earlier today, with one of the guys on the team here. We were talking about baseball because I\u2019m a Cardinals fan; he\u2019s a Reds fan. We always kind of compare how our teams are doing. Both of us looked at each other and said, \u201cYou know, it\u2019s a long season\u2014still a lot of games to play. I mean, it\u2019s only May. We\u2019ll see who is still standing in October.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was thinking about that. I was thinking, \u201cIt is a long season.\u201d\u00a0 Summer is a long season. One of the challenges we face, here at FamilyLife, during the long summer season, is that folks are occupied with other things. As a result, we see the donations to FamilyLife decline a bit in the summer months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019re a listener-supported ministry. The cost of producing and syndicating this program is something that our listeners help us out with. So, when we see that decline in the summer\u2014that can be challenging for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that in mind, we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who came to us recently and said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to help out.\u201d\u00a0 They have put together a matching gift. They\u2019ve agreed they will match every donation that is sent to FamilyLife, between now and Father\u2019s Day, on a dollar-for-dollar basis, up to a total of $350,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019re hoping we\u2019re going to take full advantage of that matching-gift opportunity. To do that, we need to hear from listeners, like you. We need you to call 1-800-FL-TODAY, and make a donation over the phone; or go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper right-hand corner that says, \u201cI Care\u201d\u2014make an online donation. Or write a check and mail it to us. Our mailing address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, any donation we receive is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, until we get to that $350,000 point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we hope to hear from you. Just know that your donation is doing double-duty this month. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow when we\u2019re going to go on location to talk to Andy Erwin, the director of the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, along with Alex Kendrick and Kevin Downes. Hope you can tune in as we talk about the movie with a studio audience that has just finished screening it. Hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2014 FamilyLife. 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She has two children, two granddaughters, and is the President and CEO of MOPS\u2014which is not a cleaning service\u2014but it works with mothers of pre-school children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey Eyster works here, at FamilyLife, with <em>MomLife Today<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe\u2019s married to Bill since 1986. They have two children. And not too far off in the future, she\u2019s going to be an empty-nester; but she\u2019s kind of ready because she\u2019s got something she\u2019s birthed over the past half dozen years\u2014MomLifeToday.com. Explain to our listeners what <em>MomLife Today<\/em> is all about because it\u2019s one of the fastest-growing ministries, here at FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong><em>MomLife Today<\/em> is all about encouraging moms. We are a group of moms in every age, and every stage of mom life, with all different type life circumstances. We just want to provide help and hope to all those moms out there, but the great thing is we make it very clear that we don\u2019t have it all figured out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>We kind of talk about our own beautiful messes in motherhood\u2014but just wanting to encourage moms and point them to the One who does have it all figured out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And Dennis said that you\u2019re all ready for this empty-nest phase; is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I really think I am. Dennis, I have to give a little bit of credit of that to your beautiful wife Barbara and her friend, Susan,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because they wrote the <em>Guide to the Empty Nest<\/em>. I read it four years ago because I thought, \u201cOkay, if this is coming, I want to know how to be prepared for it.\u201d Truly, reading it while my children were still in high school helped me be ready. I think I am. We can ask my husband\u2014I think I have been a little bit more emotional lately\u2014maybe, we shouldn\u2019t ask my husband!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Maybe we should just check in about six months and see how you are doing then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes, let\u2019s try that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think we may do that, but MomLifeToday.com has bloggers from all walks of motherhood\u2014mothers who are in blended families\u2014single-parent families. Explain the topics that you\u2019ll kind of talk about on <em>MomLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Our heart is for moms to all come together. Our tagline is \u201cEVERY MOMent COUNTS!\u201d or \u201cEvery Mom Counts!\u201d\u00a0 We really want moms to share their lives. So, you\u2019re right. We have single moms, blended-family moms\u2014we have moms of children with special needs. We have adoptive moms;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014foster moms; moms of babies, toddlers, teens, adult children, grandchildren. What we really want is for us to understand each other\u2019s lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t know how to love on, or take care of, or spend time with a mom with a child of special needs until I started reading Jennifer Dyer\u2019s blog posts. I started understanding her world and how she lived. It helped me to understand how to interact with her. That\u2019s our hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere were a lot of blogs out there that were about one thing. So, when you went to that blog, you would just read that one thing. Well, we mixed them all up. Six years ago, that was unheard of. We all came together to share our lives so that we can be on the lookout for those other moms, different than us, and how can we be together in community to encourage each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, you and Sherry found, as you pressed into the needs of moms, that they need to get together in groups and get together around the Scripture. You guys have collaborated to produce a study for moms of all walks of life\u2014just like what you\u2019re talking about Tracey\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014called <em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I\u2019m just wondering if you guys had a posse when your kids were young. Yes, I\u2019m thinking about the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There was a posse in there\u2014four women. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Four women get together. They are in different age groups \/ different phases of life. There is a single mom. There\u2019s a pastor\u2019s wife\u2014the whole thing. Did you have a group that you got together with regularly when your kids were growing up?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, I would just like to say that I think the movie modeled it right because what the movie modeled was all those moms didn\u2019t necessarily know each other real well. All of those moms were not just alike. They were from different walks of life. So, first of all, kudos to the Erwin brothers because the movie does do it the way we are supposed to do it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me, when my children were little, I had one <em>really<\/em> close friend. We would take turns watching each other\u2019s kids. So, I always had that one really close friend. Then, I was always part of Bible study groups or play groups where you would get together with different moms. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, sometimes, we fear, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t want them to see all my uglies because then they won\u2019t like me.\u201d\u00a0 So, sometimes, we just stay back when we shouldn\u2019t. So, yes, I\u2019ve always had a posse and a group of moms through every stage\u2014and maybe, as I got older, I did better of making it different types of moms and different ages; but I just want this to be sort of a rallying cry to all those moms out there: \u201cDon\u2019t just look for moms just like you.\u201d\u00a0 No matter who the mom is\u2014if you know that she needs encouragement, just be bold. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDid you find that to be true, Sherry, when you watched this movie\u2014did it encourage you as to how it should be done?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely did. It reminded me to look around for the mom alone. You know, that\u2019s something we say at MOPS, \u201cNo mom alone.\u201d\u00a0 It really should be our anthem cry. And there are moms alone, though. In fact, the statistics say, right down the street, within a mile of where you live, there is a mom that is sitting there wondering what she\u2019s going to do about tomorrow. She doesn\u2019t know how to face her situation, and she is feeling incredibly alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReach out. Look for that mom, and they will surprise you in the type of friendship that you can form. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you have a posse?\u00a0 Did you have a group of moms?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, I absolutely did. Yes. And you know, as a young mom, I was a youth pastor\u2019s wife. Sometimes, that can be a little isolating. Sometimes, you don\u2019t feel like you completely fit with every other mom. I would try to just make myself forget that and look for a circle of friends who, number one, loved to have fun; and, number two, didn\u2019t take their selves too seriously; and, number three, just loved me\u2014warts and all. We would go out and just have fun and laugh about silly things. That\u2019s really, really important. It makes you feel like a human. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I have to tell you. When my wife would go out and do that\u2014what I got back at the end of the night was a healthier, happier fresher wife\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014than I had before that. And you started to learn\u2014giving up a night like that, and taking care of the kids, while she\u2019s out having some fun\u2014there is a payback. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I found there was a payback in those evenings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There is a lot of fun in being a mom, but you\u2019ve got to kind of search for it at times. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>You do. I was talking\u2014I love to collect mom stories. I was talking to a young mom who blogged about this; and then, she talked to me about it later. She said, one Saturday morning, her doorbell rang. She came to the door; opened it. There was a police officer standing there. He said, \u201cMa\u2019am, we\u2019ve had a report from a neighbor that you have naked people running around in your yard.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, she was the mom of four boys. Her middle son, at that moment, walked up right beside her, without a stitch on except his tennis shoes. He\u2019d been running around in the yard. She said she was so frustrated and embarrassed. She just took the child by the arm, took him back inside\u2014said, \u201cOfficer, I\u2019m so sorry we had a neighbor who actually felt like they had to complain about that.\u201d\u00a0 And she shut the door. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, that night, she had a night out with the girls. She was telling this story; and she said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cThey busted out laughing about the fact that a neighbor would call because your children are running around naked in the yard.\u201d\u00a0 The police officer had said to the little boy, \u201cWell, keep it up, son!\u201d\u00a0 You know\u2014just kind of laughing. She said she was able, at that moment, to remind herself: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 That is funny. Sometimes, your kids will strip naked and do crazy things.\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cSometimes, you just need to laugh about it, as a mom.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the power of your posse because they can remind you, \u201cStop taking that so seriously and just laugh!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the legendary stories in my daughter, Ashley\u2019s, life\u2014who has five boys, ages five to fourteen\u2014is finding one of her children on the roof. It\u2019s a fairly tall house. So, if they fell, it would be\u2014it could be trouble. Yet, she somehow has learned the art of maintaining laughter and finding fun in the midst of hare-brained\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Mess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes\u2014that\u2019s exactly right. I\u2019m wondering about you, Tracey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou like to have fun. What was your favorite thing to do with your posse\u2014the group of young moms that you headed out with?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I would say the favorite thing is that it was the never the same thing. We never sort of let anything become kind of boring, and rote, and the same old thing. We would always look for something interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember when I lived in one small town that shall remain nameless\u2014that I said: \u201cLet\u2019s get together and go out of state. Let\u2019s go.\u201d We were actually going to a women\u2019s event. Of the five women in the car, three of them had never been out of the state. First of all, that was shocking to me, as someone that had moved around a lot. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get in the car, and we\u2019re starting to drive out of town. I was like, \u201cOkay, what do we all want to do right now?\u201d\u00a0 Without checking each other\u2019s notes and without wondering, we all just started screaming. We just started screaming that: \u201cI\u2019m free!\u00a0 I\u2019m free!\u201d\u00a0 Then, the music got really loud. [Laughter]\u00a0 I remember, when I told my husband that\u2014his looking at me like I was a nut job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was like: \u201cWhat do you mean you were screaming?!\u00a0 What do you mean you were free?!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m like, \u201cBill, do you know what it\u2019s like to go through 24 hours a day, seven days a week\u2014where you feel <em>so <\/em>responsible for another person that you can\u2019t just breathe, and just scream, and know that everything was going to be okay?\u201d\u00a0 Now, that may sound really dramatic to Bob Lepine and Dennis Rainey, but that\u2019s how we feel!\u00a0 [Increased speed of talking] We <em>constantly<\/em> just <em>feel<\/em> like we have to be responsible for everything! [Sigh]\u00a0 Okay, I\u2019ll calm down now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s interesting because even in Dennis\u2019s question\u2014and I\u2019d ask the same question\u2014\u201cWhat did you guys get together and do?\u201d\u00a0 As guys, we think about: \u201cWhat are we going to do?\u201d\u00a0 As women, you\u2019re thinking about spending time with one another, talking. The doing is really secondary to just the relationship; isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right. It\u2019s not really about what you do so much. Sometimes, we would just sit and just eat and just sit around the table and talk. I think it was more the connection of our hearts and sharing our imperfectness with each other, and it being okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember, one time, my friends came over for Chinese food over at my house; and we just sat around the table. The chop sticks on the table reminded one of the ladies to tell a story about how her husband had tried to fix the toilet with a chop stick. You know\u2014how like the flappy ball-thing or whatever wasn\u2019t working. So, he tried to prop it up. We just all got to laughing so hard. You know\u2014\u201cThat\u2019s life!\u201d\u00a0 We didn\u2019t do anything that night other than just sit, and eat, and talk. It was wonderful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think God made us to laugh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>I do too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I think moms need to laugh. They need to get out with other moms and just let go a bit because there is a good bit of the job of being parents of children\u2014as they go through adolescence\u2014you\u2019re going to run into some rebels. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>: You\u2019re going to run into some that push back against the standards and against how you\u2019re trying to raise them. I\u2019m going to tell you something. There is nothing like this\u2014for a dad or a mom\u2014like having a child who doesn\u2019t like you; doesn\u2019t want to be in your home, your family, your rules, your boundaries;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and frankly, wants out. Those moms need encouragement, as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>They do. They do\u2014especially, for moms who have middle schoolers and high schoolers in that stage. Sometimes, their attitudes can be absolutely overwhelming; and you just want to run away from that. That\u2019s normal. I think you need to look for another mom who might need encouragement and be able to invite her to step outside of herself and laugh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember picking up my daughter from middle school one day. She was reminding me, in the car, of everything I had not done that day that I was supposed to do: \u201cWhere was her money that she told me she needed for her science project?\u201d and, \u201cWhere was that note that she had laid on the table for me to sign, and I hadn\u2019t put it back in her book bag?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we drove up to the house, it was her turn to go get the garbage cans and bring them back up to the front of the house. I reminded her of that. She slammed the door and stomped down the driveway. Pretty soon, though, she called to me. She said, \u201cMom, come here!\u201d\u00a0 She wanted me to come out to the end of the driveway with her. So, I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere, lying at the end of the driveway, were some of my underwear that I had cleaned out the day before and bagged up in some bags and put it out in the trash can. Well, obviously, when the trash men had dumped it out, they had ripped the bags. Some had fallen out, laying there at the end of the driveway, all day long, for people to see. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tried to explain it to my daughter. I said: \u201cSweetheart, I cleaned out my lingerie drawer. I had to throw this away. I double-bagged it\u2014I put it in the can.\u201d\u00a0 She did <em>not<\/em> want to hear it. She turned around, stomped back up the driveway; and I heard her mutter, \u201cNow, we\u2019re going to have to move!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 She was just humiliated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it\u2019s on those days, when you really feel like a failure, that you need another mom to come around alongside you and just say: \u201cYes, I\u2019ve had something like that happen too. Yes, my kids have been disgusted with me; and it\u2019s going to be alright.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want one of you to talk about this because I think this is what\u2019s missing today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that keeps this group of moms from connecting together and sharing life with one another. Talk about how it just takes one mom to initiate, and step out, and be courageous enough to say: \u201cHey, I\u2019m starting a group. Would you like to join me?\u201d\u00a0 Why is it that seems so bold and so courageous for a mom to have to ask?\u00a0 Is she afraid that everyone is going to say, \u201cNo\u201d; or they\u2019ll think she\u2019s weird?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was thinking of Mothers of Pre-Schoolers. I was thinking, as you were describing the moms who get together in MOPS, that every mom would go, \u201cI would <em>love<\/em> to be a part of a group like that\u201d; and every mom would go: \u201cbut I\u2019m not leading a group like that,\u201d because, all of a sudden, you feel like you\u2019re saying, \u201cHey, I\u2019m the mom who has got it together. You want to get together with me?\u201d\u2014right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Right; yes. You know, once you do get together with other moms, you realize, \u201cThere is no mom in this circle that has it all together.\u201d\u00a0 There is no perfect mom. There is no perfect standard there. We have a book at MOPS, coming out this fall, called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>Brave Mom: Facing and Overcoming Your Real Mom Fears<\/em>. We talk to Mom about taking just small steps\u2014take a small step of just reaching out and inviting someone to come be with you\u2014to be in a group. You know what, moms?\u00a0 If you don\u2019t feel like leading a group, that\u2019s okay. Just get together with another group of moms. I bet, in that group, there will be one mom who would say, \u201cYes, I\u2019ll lead that.\u201d\u00a0 Once you take small steps of courage, you realize, \u201cOh, this isn\u2019t that hard.\u201d\u00a0 And you are encouraged to do even more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tracey, challenge that woman, who is listening right now, who is a mom who just needs an older mom to put her arm around her and say, \u201cYou can do this thing.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Most of us just don\u2019t think that it\u2019s us that are supposed to reach out. I have a classic example because we have moved several times. When we made our last move, I kept looking around me and seeing all of these great people that I felt like I wanted to spend time with; and I didn\u2019t have the guts to reach out. I was kind of holding back for a while. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, finally, what I did\u2014I kept praying about it and thinking about it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and the four moms that I called, they didn\u2019t know each other. I knew each of them, sort of. They all showed up at my house. Even in that first meeting, each one of them\u2014some of them that had lived in that community their whole lives \/ some that had been there a few years\u2014each one of them said, \u201cThey had been <em>waiting<\/em> for someone to call.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I don\u2019t know what it takes for us, Sherry and I\u2014I mean here Sherry runs an organization that has that figured out. They know that when moms gather, God can do powerful things in their lives. So, what I would challenge you is\u2014to stop, think, look around you. Who else do you know needs a friend?\u2014and just be brave and make that call. Because what I can tell you now\u2014my relationship with Christ is fuller because of these moms that we have shared life with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s the uglies. I have wept with these women. I have learned things about them that help me know how I can minister to other people, and I have been vulnerable. I have shared things about myself that I\u2019ve never wanted to share with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou never know who out there needs to be pulled in and spent time with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I can just touch on the fact\u2014one of my favorite things about <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em> is the way that young mom reached out to the pastor\u2019s wife. I had a friend\u2014when we lived in West Virginia\u2014who was a pastor\u2019s wife. She constantly talked about how much pressure she was under and how she never felt like she could be herself. If I feel it, how much more does a pastor\u2019s wife feel it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I want to challenge you: \u201cWhat pastor\u2019s wife in your church spends week after week, alone\u2014who doesn\u2019t get invited to go out to go bowling; who doesn\u2019t get invited over to the house, just to chat?\u00a0 You know, if you are listening to this right now, I\u2019ve got to believe that God wanted you to be the one to make that phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There is a phrase, used by an educator, back on the East Coast, that I\u2019ve used many times to characterize where I think people are today. The phrase is: \u201cWe suffer today from crowded loneliness.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re around a lot of people. We \u201cknow\u201d a lot of people; but we\u2019re not relating to people who know us, and who we\u2019re transparent with, and they are willing to be transparent with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEverybody tends to think their mess is worse than other people\u2019s mess, and those people are usually isolated. As I\u2019ve looked at what\u2019s happened in marriages over the past, almost four decades, I think one of the chief strategies of the devil of hell is to get followers of Christ isolated from other followers of Christ, who could encourage one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHebrews, Chapter 10, talks about not forsaking the assembling together with other believers. And yes, I believe that\u2019s primarily talking about church; but I think it also is talking about believers getting together with other believers, in the Bible,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and getting honest and real with one another about what they\u2019re facing, and what\u2019s knocking the props out from under them, and how they need help and hope in what they\u2019re facing in life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just appreciate you ladies writing this Bible study, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>, and both your ministries. Sherry, Tracey, you guys are heroes. I appreciate your being champions of moms because I think that moms need champions today as never before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Thank you. Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I\u2019m thinking how easy it would be and how much fun it would be for a mom to send an evite, or an email, or a text to a group of friends, who are moms, and say, \u201cWhy don\u2019t we have a moms\u2019 night out this weekend and go to the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>?\u201d\u00a0 Then, after the movie is over\u2014after you\u2019ve had a good time together\u2014just say, \u201cWhat do you think about getting together six times this summer and going through the study I heard about on the radio called\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment<\/em>?\u201d\u00a0 It is six sessions. The material and the conversations that will take place, that are prompted by this study, will be invaluable to every mom who decides to do that. Find out more. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. In the upper left-hand corner of the homepage, you\u2019ll see a link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 Click there. There is information about the Bible study for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>. You can order the study from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is also a link to the <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em> movie website. If you want to watch the trailer or find out more about the movie, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d\u00a0 All the information you need is available there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019d like to order the study guide for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>, you can also call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was having a conversation, earlier today, with one of the guys on the team here. We were talking about baseball because I\u2019m a Cardinals fan; he\u2019s a Reds fan. We always kind of compare how our teams are doing. Both of us looked at each other and said, \u201cYou know, it\u2019s a long season\u2014still a lot of games to play. I mean, it\u2019s only May. We\u2019ll see who is still standing in October.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was thinking about that. I was thinking, \u201cIt is a long season.\u201d\u00a0 Summer is a long season. One of the challenges we face, here at FamilyLife, during the long summer season, is that folks are occupied with other things. As a result, we see the donations to FamilyLife decline a bit in the summer months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019re a listener-supported ministry. The cost of producing and syndicating this program is something that our listeners help us out with. So, when we see that decline in the summer\u2014that can be challenging for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that in mind, we\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who came to us recently and said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to help out.\u201d\u00a0 They have put together a matching gift. They\u2019ve agreed they will match every donation that is sent to FamilyLife, between now and Father\u2019s Day, on a dollar-for-dollar basis, up to a total of $350,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019re hoping we\u2019re going to take full advantage of that matching-gift opportunity. To do that, we need to hear from listeners, like you. We need you to call 1-800-FL-TODAY, and make a donation over the phone; or go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link in the upper right-hand corner that says, \u201cI Care\u201d\u2014make an online donation. Or write a check and mail it to us. Our mailing address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. And our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, any donation we receive is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, until we get to that $350,000 point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we hope to hear from you. Just know that your donation is doing double-duty this month. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow when we\u2019re going to go on location to talk to Andy Erwin, the director of the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, along with Alex Kendrick and Kevin Downes. Hope you can tune in as we talk about the movie with a studio audience that has just finished screening it. Hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. 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