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The power of a mom who is a little farther down the road from you that you can lean into\u2014that can put her arm around you. Sometimes, on those days when the kids have wiped jelly on the dog and all over the house, you need another mom to be able to put her arm around you and say: \u201cYou\u2019re going to be okay. This is going to be alright. I\u2019ve gone through this too. You do not walk this road alone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have\u2014and you need to look for them sometimes\u2014but there are moms around you that can help you and be your manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, May 6<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Sherry Surratt joins us today, along with Tracey Eyster, to talk about how important it is for moms to have other moms to lean on. Stay tuned.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. It\u2019s movie week, here at FamilyLife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is indeed. <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out <\/em>is making its splash. I hope it\u2019s a big one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It kicks off Friday in theaters. Of course, tonight in theaters, Focus on the Family<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has their <em>Irreplaceable<\/em> movie. It\u2019s a one-night-only deal. And then this weekend, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, which you have seen. I assume our guests have seen it; don\u2019t you imagine?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I would imagine they have. Sherry, Tracey, have you guys seen it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, yes. It\u2019s fantastic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How many times?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Three now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Oh, I\u2019ve got you beat! I just saw it four over the weekend, and it doesn\u2019t get old; does it? It\u2019s wonderful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>No. It is so fun. What a fun real movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m thrilled it\u2019s coming out because moms don\u2019t get enough press. This movie is just a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s a pro-mom movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s a stinkin\u2019 fun movie\u2014is what it is. I mean, it\u2019s just kind of edgy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt has some scenes in it that are stinkin\u2019\u2014I\u2019m telling you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I can see the movie poster now\u2014with Dennis Rainey\u2019s quote at the bottom\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cA stinkin\u2019\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cA stinkin\u2019 fun movie.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfun movie.\u201d It really is. I watched my daughter, Rebecca, watch the movie. I just thought I\u2019d show her five\/seven minutes of it\u2014she just drew right in. And her husband, Jake\u2014they watched it all, and they loved it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, let me introduce our guests; and then I\u2019m going to tell you what we\u2019re about today because we\u2019re going to wave the flag that the cavalry is coming to cheer moms on in what I believe is one of the most important assignments God gives any human being.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey Eyster and Sherry Surratt join us on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Sherry, Tracey, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Thank you. It\u2019s great to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, thank you. It\u2019s an honor.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A lot of folks recognize Sherry\u2019s name because she is the President and CEO of MOPS International. She and Jeff have been married since 1982. They have, according to her words, \u201ctwo brilliant children and two beautiful grandchildren.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand brilliant,\u201d\u2014absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand brilliant for them too.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany also know Tracey, however. They know her as the founder and Executive Director of <em>MomLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and a <em>MomLife <\/em>blog that is found on the internet. She and Bill have been married since 1986, two children\u2014thrilled to have you here. You guys have collaborated together to write a book. I think the title, Bob\u2014don\u2019t you think the title fits?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It hits it right on the head.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It fits Mom. The title is <em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment.<\/em> It really is a challenge; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>It really is, yes. There are so many wonderful things about motherhood, and that\u2019s where the \u201cbeautiful\u201d comes in. I think moms get that. But sometimes what we don\u2019t talk about is the mess, and sometimes it is just messy!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let\u2019s talk about that for a second because motherhood really can be a challenge. In fact, it can drain the courage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014of a woman very quickly. What makes it so challenging today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Tracey and I talk about this in our book\u2014about there are so many areas that make you step back and question, \u201cAm I doing a good job, and how do I know?\u201d There aren\u2019t a lot of people who will just rise up and tell you, \u201cOh, what a fantastic job you\u2019re doing!\u201d Your children probably aren\u2019t going to do that, being children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are so many moments where you think: \u201cI\u2019m failing. I\u2019m ruining this. I\u2019m ruining these children. I\u2019m messing everything up!\u201d There are just opportunities, at every corner, to be able to say that to yourself. Also, you have other set of moms that you look at and compare yourself to\u2014and they always look better than you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you always compare from a distance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, there\u2019s no winning in that comparison battle. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey, as you raised yours, what was the most challenging period of being a mom? You\u2019re about done with the hardest work being a mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, don\u2019t go there because this will just make her cry if you go there; won\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019re about at the last chapter of the first half of your mom life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I sure am because my son is a senior in high school, and we\u2019re so close to graduation. It\u2019s just days away! For me, I guess the hardest is the fact that it always changes. Every time you think maybe there\u2019s a portion that you\u2019re starting to figure out\u2014that you\u2019ve finally figured out how to get that baby to sleep after having the trials of: \u201cHow do I do this?\u201d You finally get there, and then there\u2019s something new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, there\u2019s that you\u2019re potty training them, or that they start saying, \u201cMine, mine, mine,\u201d all the time. Every time you start to feel a little victory, then there\u2019s this other thing. You think: \u201cWow! Nobody ever told me this was going to be so hard. Nobody ever told me this was going to make me start to question so many different areas of my life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s the beauty of the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>,<em>\u2014<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because I mentioned I\u2019ve seen it four times. Every audience I saw it with\u2014you would see moms just start to feel affirmed. You\u2019d see nods. You\u2019d see\u2014I know they\u2019re thinking: \u201cThat\u2019s me. I do that.\u201d Just <em>knowing<\/em> that you\u2019re not alone\u2014that other moms go through this, and God has a <em>purpose<\/em> in it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I have to tell you this story. Barbara and I were with a friend, in the past year, who had waited a while to get pregnant; okay?\u2014put it in that category. She<em> just<\/em> found out, and we were among the first that she started telling. I have to say, it was <em>fascinating<\/em> to look at the crisis of confidence at the news that you are going to be a mother. That wasn\u2019t just that young lady; was it? That really occurs from the get-go; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely does. I tell a story in the book about that day when it was time to bring my first son, Michael, home from the hospital\u2014my first baby. I remember sitting in the room. It was dark. I was holding him, and looking at him, and thinking: \u201cOh, he\u2019s so beautiful! He\u2019s just gorgeous. Look what we made!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then the thought struck, \u201cNow, I have to take him home\u201d; and the nurses weren\u2019t going to go with me. No one was going to come. I remember, in the wheelchair, being wheeled out\u2014holding my son, thinking: \u201cAt any moment, the baby police are going to come around the corner and say: \u2018Lady, back away! You do not know what you are doing!\u2019\u201d I would not have been surprised. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You were not a trained professional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>I was not!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s a lot about this culture that makes moms feel like they\u2019re not competent to raise children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes, there are a lot of \u201cshould\u2019s\u201d out there: \u201cYou should be doing this, \u201cYou should be doing that.\u201d It makes you run around in circles. You find yourself marching to the beat of a million different drummers if you\u2019re not careful. I think that\u2019s what\u2019s so important about this study. It reminds you: \u201cYou truly are playing for an audience of One.\u201d This One\u2014our God who made us\u2014designed this whole concept of motherhood. So, He really knows what it\u2019s about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd He also knows those feelings that are going on in your heart. He also knows that the children that He gave to you, He gave to you because He knows you\u2019re the right mom for those children. So, when you start to doubt, and question, and compare, and see \u201cWhat she\u2019s doing,\u201d and wonder\u2014God entrusted Samara and Wesley to me. He knows I\u2019m the mom for them. And when I start to doubt, and wonder, and compare, I\u2019m not living in God\u2019s truth\u2014I\u2019m living in what I see all around me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, here\u2019s the thing. If Mary Ann wants to make spaghetti for dinner, she can either go to the store and buy a jar of the sauce. It\u2019s pretty easy to pour the sauce in, mix a little something else in, and make the spaghetti. If she really wants to get ambitious, she can pull a recipe out of a recipe file and start from scratch. But making spaghetti\u2014we\u2019ve got a formula for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo be a mom, and raise your kids, and to know what to do\u2014you have one person who is saying, \u201cYou make sure you spank them if they get out of line,\u201d and somebody else says: \u201c<em>Spank them<\/em>? You\u2019re going to do that?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody else says, \u201cWell, here\u2019s how we do it\u201d; and somebody else says, \u201cWell, here\u2019s how we do it.\u201d You look around and you go, \u201cWhere\u2019s the recipe?\u201d because there\u2019s not one; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>There isn\u2019t one. So many times you kind of want one. That\u2019s why Tracey and I both talk about the power of a mentor\u2014the power of a mom who is a little farther down the road from you that you can lean into\u2014that can put her arm around you. Sometimes, on those days when the kids have wiped jelly on the dog and all over the house, you need another mom to be able to put her arm around you and say: \u201cYou\u2019re going to be okay. This is going to be alright. I\u2019ve gone through this too.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe power of \u201cme too\u201d\u2014which Tracey alluded to a while ago\u2014is so incredibly powerful for a mom. You do not walk this road alone. You have\u2014and you need to look for them sometimes\u2014but there are moms around you that can help you and be your manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Can you describe one of those mentor voices in your life\u2014a person who was that for you? And then how did you get connected with that person? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause I think a lot of moms are saying, \u201cI would <em>love <\/em>to have somebody who would be that mentor; but I don\u2019t know where to find them, and I don\u2019t want to impose,\u201d and this, and that. How did it happen for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>For me, her name was Donna. She was one of those moms, who I knew I could call at any time. In fact, she told me that. I found her just through my church. I was working in children\u2019s ministry at the time. She was a mom who had children that were a little bit older than mine. Here\u2019s what I did\u2014I just swallowed my pride and I asked. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you know, you take a risk when you ask; but what I have found, from most other women, when you are going through something, as a woman or a mom, and you ask for help, most times, moms will say\u2014women will say: \u201cAbsolutely. You call me any time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Tracey, what about you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, mine was Marilyn. Marilyn was a mom that was ahead of me. Her children are about five to ten years older than mine. I just observed her children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer children were amazing, God-loving, fun-filled, just wonderful young people because, at the time, my kids were probably in elementary school. Hers were more middle school\/high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you go up to her and say, \u201cCan I have coffee with you?\u201d Did you initiate the relationship?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I did. I had seen her\u2014I had been around her. I could tell that she loved the Lord. I saw how she handled situations. I think it started with I found out she was part of a Bunco group. At the time, I was relatively new to this community. I\u2019ve learned you can sit back and feel sorry because you don\u2019t have a friend, or because you don\u2019t have one speaking into your life, or you can get proactive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just kind of made my way up to Marilyn and started talking: \u201cAren\u2019t you part of a Bunco group?\u201d \u201cWell, you wouldn\u2019t want to be part of our Bunco group because we\u2019re older.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, yes, I would want to be a part of your Bunco group.\u201d I think that\u2019s a factor\u2014kind of going with what Sherry said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, we think that someone else older than us is too busy for us, or has too much to do in their lives, and \u201cWhy would they want to waste time talking to me?\u201d But I find that older women\u2014those Titus 2 women\u2014they want to be able to speak into your life. They just don\u2019t want to impose. So, be a little bold and just go up and ask!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Barbara and I had been married about four years when we moved to Dallas. We had one little girl in tow and had our son, Benjamin, there. I remember Barbara\u2014I wouldn\u2019t say she was at the end of her rope, but she was a couple of knots up from the end of her rope. She was just challenged being a mom of two young, young\u2014very young children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe called a woman there in Dallas that she didn\u2019t know. It\u2019s interesting\u2014this pride thing you talked about. She had to swallow her pride and say, \u201cI really need some coaching here.\u201d What happened was\u2014I remember, on the days she would have coffee and get some time with the woman who was a Titus 2 woman in her life, she had energy. She had life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat woman was a life-giver to a young mom, just starting out, who needed to be affirmed and needed to <em>know<\/em> that she was doing the right thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey, as you think about your beautiful mess, is there one story that captures the essence of raising Samara and Wesley?\u00a0 That\u2019s a tough assignment to give you, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I have it. I call it my \u201cstare moment.\u201d\u00a0 Wesley was a baby, and Wesley had colic. I had no clue what colic was until I had a child with colic. He was probably about three months old. Samara was three years old. I was sitting on a stairway. Wesley was screaming his head off in my arms. Samara had her head leaning against my shoulder. She was crying uncontrollably.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Emotion in voice] I was looking out the window at a blizzard, and I was crying and crying. I remember thinking: \u201cI can\u2019t do this! I can\u2019t do this!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201dNobody explained to me what it was going to be like to feel so responsible for these two little lives.\u201d I didn\u2019t know why they were crying. I couldn\u2019t figure out, \u201cHow can I make him stop?\u201d There seemed nothing I could do. It almost seemed sort of symbolic that there\u2019s a blizzard outside, and I was trapped in this little house, and I didn\u2019t know what to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just thought, \u201cOkay, you\u2019ve got to get it together.\u201d Obviously, every mom has that moment. In <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>,it\u2019s in a closet where she realizes what\u2019s going on with her. And you ask moms, \u201cWhat is your closet moment?\u201d and we all have them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting to me that that was 15 years ago; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, 18\u2014Wesley\u2019s 18. That was 18 years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And the emotion is still right there with that moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes. I call it \u201cgetting to the end of myself.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Feeling overwhelmed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Feeling overwhelmed\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Not knowing where to look.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>\u2014and ill-equipped.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want you both to comment on this Scripture. At first, it doesn\u2019t sound like it applies to moms who feel overwhelmed; but it really does because I\u2019d have to say this is where Barbara found life. Second Timothy, Chapter 3, verse16: \u201cAll Scripture is breathed out by God, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God\u201d\u2014or may I add that the woman of God\u2014\u201cmay be competent, equipped for every good work.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI look back at Barbara\u2019s life and the reason why she excelled, as a mom, wasn\u2019t that it was always easy. There were a lot of messes \/ a lot of tough moments; but she kept drinking deeply from the Scriptures and had an ongoing relationship with Christ. She\u2019d fight for times to get alone with God, and pray, and think it through, and ask God to meet her in those moments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould both of you comment on the importance of Scripture to give a mom hope when she\u2019s feeling overwhelmed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, my goodness! I have learned this over my life. I wish I would have learned it earlier\u2014that God has things to say to me, at that moment, when I\u2019m feeling something because God isn\u2019t surprised that I\u2019m feeling it. He knew it was coming. And so long ago\u2014in only the way that God can\u2014He puts those verses in there that speak directly to my heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the ones that I say over to myself, every single day\u2014even today--as I drive to work is Zephaniah 3:17\u2014that talks about: God is with me wherever I go. He is mighty to save me. Nothing I face is going to be too big for my God who made me. He <em>knows<\/em> what\u2019s coming in my day. I can walk in confidence, even when I <em>don\u2019t know<\/em> what\u2019s coming. But then the verse goes on to say that He takes <em>delight<\/em> in me. He looks down and He\u2019s delighted with what He sees\u2014even when I\u2019m disappointed in what I see when I look in the mirror. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven when I\u2019m just disgusted with the things that I\u2019ve done or the choices that I have made, God delights in me. In fact, in the version that I was reading, it said, \u201cHe dances over me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to say that to every mom. Wherever you are right now, that verse is for you too. He\u2019s delighted when He looks at you. He dances over you with joy, no matter what the house looks like, no matter what the pile of dishes is\u2014you know, the dog has pooped on the carpet\u2014all those types of things. God takes delight in you. I say that verse over and over to myself again, and there are so many verses in the Bible. I think you really do have to hide them in your heart for those moments when you don\u2019t know what to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tracey, how about you? How have you seen the Scripture equip you as a mom?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I remember, when I would be around older women, I would notice that they had a peace and calm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time I would ask a godly woman, \u201c<em>How<\/em> do you live your day the way you do with such peace and calm?\u201d It would always be that they were constantly in the Word of God. It was part of them. I always thought, when I was a younger mom, \u201cWell, I guess some day I will have time to be able to do that because, just right now, I don\u2019t.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then I recognized that you can hide the Word of God in your heart, even if you can\u2019t sit down and have 30 minutes to study Scripture. So, I started writing Scripture on index cards. I would put them on the steering wheel. I would put them on my bathroom mirror. I would put them at the sink\u2014I would put it in places.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, when you\u2019re a younger mom, instead of thinking, \u201cI just don\u2019t have time for this,\u201d because, once you do that and you start to read those snippets of Scripture, it makes you <em>long for<\/em>\u2014and then it makes you find a way to make time for\u2014even if it means getting up earlier in the morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, just like Sherry, when you hide it in your heart, there are those Scriptures that you say over and over because they are part of who you are and what you need. For me, it\u2019s \u201cDo not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, make your requests known to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus,\u201d\u2014because, for me, it has always been peace. I\u2019ve always needed the peace that Jesus Christ provides because the world, I feel like, just screams at me constantly what I\u2019m <em>supposed <\/em>to be doing, and what I should be doing, and what I\u2019m <em>not doing<\/em>. To me, the antithesis of the chaos is the peace. It\u2019s the peace that I need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then the rest of that Scripture goes on\u2014I call them the \u201cwhatever\u2019s\u201d\u2014because I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, how am I going to have peace with all this stuff spinning around in my brain?\u201d And it goes on to say, \u201cFinally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, think on these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if you can push the world away, and all of those doubts and comparisons, and you can just think of the good things and the blessings: \u201cLook at these little people. They are driving me nuts right now! But wow! That overbearing personality in that little person\u2014what is God going to do with that someday? Nobody will ever force my daughter to do anything she does not want to do because she is so strong-willed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I wonder who she\u2019s related to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I cannot imagine, but I think you know him quite well! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I want to say to the mom who is identifying with you ladies. I want you to get a copy of <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>; and then get a couple of pals\u2014two, three, or four pals\u2014other moms who are in the battle, who look perfect; but trust me, they\u2019re not! They need this maybe more than you do. Get <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em> and huddle up. Then, after you go through this, then maybe you can do some illegal Bunco groups\u2014stuff like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat comes out of Las Vegas, you know\u2014that\u2019s illegal. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s what the book is designed for. <em>Beautiful Mess <\/em>is a six-session study for moms written by Sherry Surratt and Tracey Eyster. Actually, a great way to kick it all off is to go see the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, this weekend when it opens in theaters. Get a group of moms together. Have a moms\u2019 night out.<em> A<\/em>fterwards, just say, \u201cWould you ladies like to get together at our house, and we\u2019ll go through this study together?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think every mom can benefit from spending time talking about the issues that are raised in this study and just encouraging one another. We have information about the<em> Beautiful Mess<\/em> study for moms, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Go to our website, which has just been refreshed, by the way. The team has done a great job putting a brand-new facelift on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you get to the home page, look in the upper left-hand corner. It will say, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d If you click on that link, it will take you to the area of the site where you can get more information about the Bible study for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess.<\/em> There is also a link on the website to the <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out <\/em>movie website. If you\u2019d like to see the trailer and find out more about theaters and show times, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d All the information you need about the resources is available there. You can order the Bible study from us, online; or you can call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are excited that spring is here and that temperatures are warmer. Summer is just around the corner. Everybody loves summertime. 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It\u2019s fantastic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How many times?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Three now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Oh, I\u2019ve got you beat! I just saw it four over the weekend, and it doesn\u2019t get old; does it? It\u2019s wonderful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>No. It is so fun. What a fun real movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m thrilled it\u2019s coming out because moms don\u2019t get enough press. This movie is just a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s a pro-mom movie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s a stinkin\u2019 fun movie\u2014is what it is. I mean, it\u2019s just kind of edgy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt has some scenes in it that are stinkin\u2019\u2014I\u2019m telling you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I can see the movie poster now\u2014with Dennis Rainey\u2019s quote at the bottom\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cA stinkin\u2019\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cA stinkin\u2019 fun movie.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfun movie.\u201d It really is. I watched my daughter, Rebecca, watch the movie. I just thought I\u2019d show her five\/seven minutes of it\u2014she just drew right in. And her husband, Jake\u2014they watched it all, and they loved it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, let me introduce our guests; and then I\u2019m going to tell you what we\u2019re about today because we\u2019re going to wave the flag that the cavalry is coming to cheer moms on in what I believe is one of the most important assignments God gives any human being.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey Eyster and Sherry Surratt join us on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Sherry, Tracey, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Thank you. It\u2019s great to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, thank you. It\u2019s an honor.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A lot of folks recognize Sherry\u2019s name because she is the President and CEO of MOPS International. She and Jeff have been married since 1982. They have, according to her words, \u201ctwo brilliant children and two beautiful grandchildren.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand brilliant,\u201d\u2014absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cand brilliant for them too.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMany also know Tracey, however. They know her as the founder and Executive Director of <em>MomLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and a <em>MomLife <\/em>blog that is found on the internet. She and Bill have been married since 1986, two children\u2014thrilled to have you here. You guys have collaborated together to write a book. I think the title, Bob\u2014don\u2019t you think the title fits?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It hits it right on the head.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It fits Mom. The title is <em>Beautiful Mess: Motherhood for Every Moment.<\/em> It really is a challenge; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>It really is, yes. There are so many wonderful things about motherhood, and that\u2019s where the \u201cbeautiful\u201d comes in. I think moms get that. But sometimes what we don\u2019t talk about is the mess, and sometimes it is just messy!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Let\u2019s talk about that for a second because motherhood really can be a challenge. In fact, it can drain the courage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014of a woman very quickly. What makes it so challenging today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Tracey and I talk about this in our book\u2014about there are so many areas that make you step back and question, \u201cAm I doing a good job, and how do I know?\u201d There aren\u2019t a lot of people who will just rise up and tell you, \u201cOh, what a fantastic job you\u2019re doing!\u201d Your children probably aren\u2019t going to do that, being children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are so many moments where you think: \u201cI\u2019m failing. I\u2019m ruining this. I\u2019m ruining these children. I\u2019m messing everything up!\u201d There are just opportunities, at every corner, to be able to say that to yourself. Also, you have other set of moms that you look at and compare yourself to\u2014and they always look better than you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you always compare from a distance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, you do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, there\u2019s no winning in that comparison battle. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey, as you raised yours, what was the most challenging period of being a mom? You\u2019re about done with the hardest work being a mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, don\u2019t go there because this will just make her cry if you go there; won\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019re about at the last chapter of the first half of your mom life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I sure am because my son is a senior in high school, and we\u2019re so close to graduation. It\u2019s just days away! For me, I guess the hardest is the fact that it always changes. Every time you think maybe there\u2019s a portion that you\u2019re starting to figure out\u2014that you\u2019ve finally figured out how to get that baby to sleep after having the trials of: \u201cHow do I do this?\u201d You finally get there, and then there\u2019s something new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, there\u2019s that you\u2019re potty training them, or that they start saying, \u201cMine, mine, mine,\u201d all the time. Every time you start to feel a little victory, then there\u2019s this other thing. You think: \u201cWow! Nobody ever told me this was going to be so hard. Nobody ever told me this was going to make me start to question so many different areas of my life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s the beauty of the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>,<em>\u2014<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because I mentioned I\u2019ve seen it four times. Every audience I saw it with\u2014you would see moms just start to feel affirmed. You\u2019d see nods. You\u2019d see\u2014I know they\u2019re thinking: \u201cThat\u2019s me. I do that.\u201d Just <em>knowing<\/em> that you\u2019re not alone\u2014that other moms go through this, and God has a <em>purpose<\/em> in it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I have to tell you this story. Barbara and I were with a friend, in the past year, who had waited a while to get pregnant; okay?\u2014put it in that category. She<em> just<\/em> found out, and we were among the first that she started telling. I have to say, it was <em>fascinating<\/em> to look at the crisis of confidence at the news that you are going to be a mother. That wasn\u2019t just that young lady; was it? That really occurs from the get-go; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, it absolutely does. I tell a story in the book about that day when it was time to bring my first son, Michael, home from the hospital\u2014my first baby. I remember sitting in the room. It was dark. I was holding him, and looking at him, and thinking: \u201cOh, he\u2019s so beautiful! He\u2019s just gorgeous. Look what we made!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then the thought struck, \u201cNow, I have to take him home\u201d; and the nurses weren\u2019t going to go with me. No one was going to come. I remember, in the wheelchair, being wheeled out\u2014holding my son, thinking: \u201cAt any moment, the baby police are going to come around the corner and say: \u2018Lady, back away! You do not know what you are doing!\u2019\u201d I would not have been surprised. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You were not a trained professional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>I was not!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s a lot about this culture that makes moms feel like they\u2019re not competent to raise children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes, there are a lot of \u201cshould\u2019s\u201d out there: \u201cYou should be doing this, \u201cYou should be doing that.\u201d It makes you run around in circles. You find yourself marching to the beat of a million different drummers if you\u2019re not careful. I think that\u2019s what\u2019s so important about this study. It reminds you: \u201cYou truly are playing for an audience of One.\u201d This One\u2014our God who made us\u2014designed this whole concept of motherhood. So, He really knows what it\u2019s about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd He also knows those feelings that are going on in your heart. He also knows that the children that He gave to you, He gave to you because He knows you\u2019re the right mom for those children. So, when you start to doubt, and question, and compare, and see \u201cWhat she\u2019s doing,\u201d and wonder\u2014God entrusted Samara and Wesley to me. He knows I\u2019m the mom for them. And when I start to doubt, and wonder, and compare, I\u2019m not living in God\u2019s truth\u2014I\u2019m living in what I see all around me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, here\u2019s the thing. If Mary Ann wants to make spaghetti for dinner, she can either go to the store and buy a jar of the sauce. It\u2019s pretty easy to pour the sauce in, mix a little something else in, and make the spaghetti. If she really wants to get ambitious, she can pull a recipe out of a recipe file and start from scratch. But making spaghetti\u2014we\u2019ve got a formula for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo be a mom, and raise your kids, and to know what to do\u2014you have one person who is saying, \u201cYou make sure you spank them if they get out of line,\u201d and somebody else says: \u201c<em>Spank them<\/em>? You\u2019re going to do that?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody else says, \u201cWell, here\u2019s how we do it\u201d; and somebody else says, \u201cWell, here\u2019s how we do it.\u201d You look around and you go, \u201cWhere\u2019s the recipe?\u201d because there\u2019s not one; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>There isn\u2019t one. So many times you kind of want one. That\u2019s why Tracey and I both talk about the power of a mentor\u2014the power of a mom who is a little farther down the road from you that you can lean into\u2014that can put her arm around you. Sometimes, on those days when the kids have wiped jelly on the dog and all over the house, you need another mom to be able to put her arm around you and say: \u201cYou\u2019re going to be okay. This is going to be alright. I\u2019ve gone through this too.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe power of \u201cme too\u201d\u2014which Tracey alluded to a while ago\u2014is so incredibly powerful for a mom. You do not walk this road alone. You have\u2014and you need to look for them sometimes\u2014but there are moms around you that can help you and be your manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Can you describe one of those mentor voices in your life\u2014a person who was that for you? And then how did you get connected with that person? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause I think a lot of moms are saying, \u201cI would <em>love <\/em>to have somebody who would be that mentor; but I don\u2019t know where to find them, and I don\u2019t want to impose,\u201d and this, and that. How did it happen for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>For me, her name was Donna. She was one of those moms, who I knew I could call at any time. In fact, she told me that. I found her just through my church. I was working in children\u2019s ministry at the time. She was a mom who had children that were a little bit older than mine. Here\u2019s what I did\u2014I just swallowed my pride and I asked. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you know, you take a risk when you ask; but what I have found, from most other women, when you are going through something, as a woman or a mom, and you ask for help, most times, moms will say\u2014women will say: \u201cAbsolutely. You call me any time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Tracey, what about you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, mine was Marilyn. Marilyn was a mom that was ahead of me. Her children are about five to ten years older than mine. I just observed her children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer children were amazing, God-loving, fun-filled, just wonderful young people because, at the time, my kids were probably in elementary school. Hers were more middle school\/high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you go up to her and say, \u201cCan I have coffee with you?\u201d Did you initiate the relationship?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I did. I had seen her\u2014I had been around her. I could tell that she loved the Lord. I saw how she handled situations. I think it started with I found out she was part of a Bunco group. At the time, I was relatively new to this community. I\u2019ve learned you can sit back and feel sorry because you don\u2019t have a friend, or because you don\u2019t have one speaking into your life, or you can get proactive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just kind of made my way up to Marilyn and started talking: \u201cAren\u2019t you part of a Bunco group?\u201d \u201cWell, you wouldn\u2019t want to be part of our Bunco group because we\u2019re older.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, yes, I would want to be a part of your Bunco group.\u201d I think that\u2019s a factor\u2014kind of going with what Sherry said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, we think that someone else older than us is too busy for us, or has too much to do in their lives, and \u201cWhy would they want to waste time talking to me?\u201d But I find that older women\u2014those Titus 2 women\u2014they want to be able to speak into your life. They just don\u2019t want to impose. So, be a little bold and just go up and ask!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Barbara and I had been married about four years when we moved to Dallas. We had one little girl in tow and had our son, Benjamin, there. I remember Barbara\u2014I wouldn\u2019t say she was at the end of her rope, but she was a couple of knots up from the end of her rope. She was just challenged being a mom of two young, young\u2014very young children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe called a woman there in Dallas that she didn\u2019t know. It\u2019s interesting\u2014this pride thing you talked about. She had to swallow her pride and say, \u201cI really need some coaching here.\u201d What happened was\u2014I remember, on the days she would have coffee and get some time with the woman who was a Titus 2 woman in her life, she had energy. She had life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat woman was a life-giver to a young mom, just starting out, who needed to be affirmed and needed to <em>know<\/em> that she was doing the right thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey, as you think about your beautiful mess, is there one story that captures the essence of raising Samara and Wesley?\u00a0 That\u2019s a tough assignment to give you, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I have it. I call it my \u201cstare moment.\u201d\u00a0 Wesley was a baby, and Wesley had colic. I had no clue what colic was until I had a child with colic. He was probably about three months old. Samara was three years old. I was sitting on a stairway. Wesley was screaming his head off in my arms. Samara had her head leaning against my shoulder. She was crying uncontrollably.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Emotion in voice] I was looking out the window at a blizzard, and I was crying and crying. I remember thinking: \u201cI can\u2019t do this! I can\u2019t do this!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201dNobody explained to me what it was going to be like to feel so responsible for these two little lives.\u201d I didn\u2019t know why they were crying. I couldn\u2019t figure out, \u201cHow can I make him stop?\u201d There seemed nothing I could do. It almost seemed sort of symbolic that there\u2019s a blizzard outside, and I was trapped in this little house, and I didn\u2019t know what to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just thought, \u201cOkay, you\u2019ve got to get it together.\u201d Obviously, every mom has that moment. In <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>,it\u2019s in a closet where she realizes what\u2019s going on with her. And you ask moms, \u201cWhat is your closet moment?\u201d and we all have them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting to me that that was 15 years ago; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Well, 18\u2014Wesley\u2019s 18. That was 18 years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And the emotion is still right there with that moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Yes. I call it \u201cgetting to the end of myself.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Feeling overwhelmed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>Feeling overwhelmed\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Not knowing where to look.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>\u2014and ill-equipped.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want you both to comment on this Scripture. At first, it doesn\u2019t sound like it applies to moms who feel overwhelmed; but it really does because I\u2019d have to say this is where Barbara found life. Second Timothy, Chapter 3, verse16: \u201cAll Scripture is breathed out by God, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God\u201d\u2014or may I add that the woman of God\u2014\u201cmay be competent, equipped for every good work.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI look back at Barbara\u2019s life and the reason why she excelled, as a mom, wasn\u2019t that it was always easy. There were a lot of messes \/ a lot of tough moments; but she kept drinking deeply from the Scriptures and had an ongoing relationship with Christ. She\u2019d fight for times to get alone with God, and pray, and think it through, and ask God to meet her in those moments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould both of you comment on the importance of Scripture to give a mom hope when she\u2019s feeling overwhelmed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sherry: <\/strong>Oh, my goodness! I have learned this over my life. I wish I would have learned it earlier\u2014that God has things to say to me, at that moment, when I\u2019m feeling something because God isn\u2019t surprised that I\u2019m feeling it. He knew it was coming. And so long ago\u2014in only the way that God can\u2014He puts those verses in there that speak directly to my heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the ones that I say over to myself, every single day\u2014even today--as I drive to work is Zephaniah 3:17\u2014that talks about: God is with me wherever I go. He is mighty to save me. Nothing I face is going to be too big for my God who made me. He <em>knows<\/em> what\u2019s coming in my day. I can walk in confidence, even when I <em>don\u2019t know<\/em> what\u2019s coming. But then the verse goes on to say that He takes <em>delight<\/em> in me. He looks down and He\u2019s delighted with what He sees\u2014even when I\u2019m disappointed in what I see when I look in the mirror. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven when I\u2019m just disgusted with the things that I\u2019ve done or the choices that I have made, God delights in me. In fact, in the version that I was reading, it said, \u201cHe dances over me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to say that to every mom. Wherever you are right now, that verse is for you too. He\u2019s delighted when He looks at you. He dances over you with joy, no matter what the house looks like, no matter what the pile of dishes is\u2014you know, the dog has pooped on the carpet\u2014all those types of things. God takes delight in you. I say that verse over and over to myself again, and there are so many verses in the Bible. I think you really do have to hide them in your heart for those moments when you don\u2019t know what to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tracey, how about you? How have you seen the Scripture equip you as a mom?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I remember, when I would be around older women, I would notice that they had a peace and calm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time I would ask a godly woman, \u201c<em>How<\/em> do you live your day the way you do with such peace and calm?\u201d It would always be that they were constantly in the Word of God. It was part of them. I always thought, when I was a younger mom, \u201cWell, I guess some day I will have time to be able to do that because, just right now, I don\u2019t.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then I recognized that you can hide the Word of God in your heart, even if you can\u2019t sit down and have 30 minutes to study Scripture. So, I started writing Scripture on index cards. I would put them on the steering wheel. I would put them on my bathroom mirror. I would put them at the sink\u2014I would put it in places.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, when you\u2019re a younger mom, instead of thinking, \u201cI just don\u2019t have time for this,\u201d because, once you do that and you start to read those snippets of Scripture, it makes you <em>long for<\/em>\u2014and then it makes you find a way to make time for\u2014even if it means getting up earlier in the morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, just like Sherry, when you hide it in your heart, there are those Scriptures that you say over and over because they are part of who you are and what you need. For me, it\u2019s \u201cDo not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, make your requests known to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus,\u201d\u2014because, for me, it has always been peace. I\u2019ve always needed the peace that Jesus Christ provides because the world, I feel like, just screams at me constantly what I\u2019m <em>supposed <\/em>to be doing, and what I should be doing, and what I\u2019m <em>not doing<\/em>. To me, the antithesis of the chaos is the peace. It\u2019s the peace that I need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then the rest of that Scripture goes on\u2014I call them the \u201cwhatever\u2019s\u201d\u2014because I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, how am I going to have peace with all this stuff spinning around in my brain?\u201d And it goes on to say, \u201cFinally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, think on these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if you can push the world away, and all of those doubts and comparisons, and you can just think of the good things and the blessings: \u201cLook at these little people. They are driving me nuts right now! But wow! That overbearing personality in that little person\u2014what is God going to do with that someday? Nobody will ever force my daughter to do anything she does not want to do because she is so strong-willed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I wonder who she\u2019s related to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracey: <\/strong>I cannot imagine, but I think you know him quite well! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I want to say to the mom who is identifying with you ladies. I want you to get a copy of <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em>; and then get a couple of pals\u2014two, three, or four pals\u2014other moms who are in the battle, who look perfect; but trust me, they\u2019re not! They need this maybe more than you do. Get <em>Beautiful Mess<\/em> and huddle up. Then, after you go through this, then maybe you can do some illegal Bunco groups\u2014stuff like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat comes out of Las Vegas, you know\u2014that\u2019s illegal. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s what the book is designed for. <em>Beautiful Mess <\/em>is a six-session study for moms written by Sherry Surratt and Tracey Eyster. Actually, a great way to kick it all off is to go see the movie, <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out<\/em>, this weekend when it opens in theaters. Get a group of moms together. Have a moms\u2019 night out.<em> A<\/em>fterwards, just say, \u201cWould you ladies like to get together at our house, and we\u2019ll go through this study together?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think every mom can benefit from spending time talking about the issues that are raised in this study and just encouraging one another. We have information about the<em> Beautiful Mess<\/em> study for moms, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Go to our website, which has just been refreshed, by the way. The team has done a great job putting a brand-new facelift on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you get to the home page, look in the upper left-hand corner. It will say, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d If you click on that link, it will take you to the area of the site where you can get more information about the Bible study for moms, <em>Beautiful Mess.<\/em> There is also a link on the website to the <em>Moms\u2019 Night Out <\/em>movie website. If you\u2019d like to see the trailer and find out more about theaters and show times, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cGo Deeper.\u201d All the information you need about the resources is available there. You can order the Bible study from us, online; or you can call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are excited that spring is here and that temperatures are warmer. Summer is just around the corner. Everybody loves summertime. One of the challenges we face during summer, though, is that we often see a decline in financial support for the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are often listeners who get busy with other things and don\u2019t send in a check or don\u2019t call to help support this ministry. See, we are listener-supported. Unless we hear from listeners, we can\u2019t cover the cost of producing and syndicating this daily radio program. So, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who have made today\u2019s program possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you\u2019ll consider, today, making an online donation, or calling us to make a donation, or mailing a check to us. We have some friends of the ministry who have come alongside us between now and Father\u2019s Day. They have offered to match every donation we receive, dollar for dollar, up to a total amount of $350,000. For us to be able to take advantage of that matching gift, we need to hear from you. Would you go to FamilyLifeToday.com, click on the link in the upper right-hand corner that says, \u201cI Care,\u201d and make an online donation? Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make a donation over the phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr if you\u2019d like to, mail a check to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Our mailing address is Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, AR and the zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue our conversation with Sherry Surratt and with Tracey Eyster. Tomorrow, we\u2019re going to talk about whether moms are too hands-on or not hands-on enough. 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