{"id":302951,"date":"2014-02-26T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-02-26T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/being-filled-with-the-spirit\/"},"modified":"2025-01-09T13:38:39","modified_gmt":"2025-01-09T18:38:39","slug":"being-filled-with-the-spirit","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/being-filled-with-the-spirit\/","title":{"rendered":"Being Filled With the Spirit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Holy Spirit is the secret ingredient in every believer&#8217;s life, says Francis Chan. The reality for believers, Chan says, is that God lives inside our bodies, and that should transform the way we live. 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People don\u2019t realize, \u201cNo, God wants to use all of us.\u201d\u00a0 He wants to supernaturally fill us so that people are blown away by the stay-at-home mom who has so much patience. God says that is who He has chosen to shame the world. Our light should shine so that men would see our good works and give glory to our Father in heaven.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>for Wednesday, February 26<sup>th<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Are people seeing, in you, the fruit of the Holy Spirit?\u00a0 We are going to talk about that and more today. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>And welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You know what I think\u2014and I can say this because it is part of personal experience with me\u2014but I think, within the body of Christ today, you\u2019ve got some folks\u2014and I\u2019ve probably been close to them\u2014who are a little afraid\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>2:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>to talk too much, think too much, or get too close to\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Or get too excited about.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I mean, I came to faith in a time where I saw what I would still describe as a lot of spiritual, off-beat excess\u2014that was an unbiblical approach to life\u2014that was attributed to the Holy Spirit. So, with that, I kind of went in another direction and thought, \u201cWell, we are going to keep it tame, and a box, and a little more domesticated here.\u201d\u00a0 I am not sure that was the right response to what I was watching.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, Bob, when you started talking about that, I immediately thought about worshipping in Harlem. I was at a church in Harlem that used to be a public school that a church there had taken over. Actually, it had been given to the community. The service lasted somewhere between four and six hours because I think it started before I got there.\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>3:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I may have left before it was fully over; okay?\u00a0 But it took a while before my foot started tapping. Then, about another hour later, I started clapping a little bit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>In rhythm?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>In rhythm\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to the music; you know?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was just checking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Before long, I was going: \u201cMan! Our church back home is really good. I mean, it teaches the Bible. It has great worship\u2014it really does\u2014but we are the frozen chosen!\u201d\u00a0 You know, we\u2019re back there\u2014and we are all staid and stuffed a little bit. We\u2019re just afraid of what it looks like to be happy, as Christians.<\/p>\n<p>Now, there are some people, who are listening to our broadcast right now. They are getting afraid because they are thinking, \u201cBob and Dennis,\u201d\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201chave gone off the deep-end.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201chave gone off the deep-end about the Holy Spirit.\u201d\u00a0 And we haven\u2019t. But we have a guest here who is going to help us\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, now\u2014wait!\u00a0 Maybe, we have gone off the deep-end. That might be a good place to go!\u00a0\u00a0 [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, it may be; but let me introduce our guest. Francis Chan joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Francis\u2014welcome.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Thanks. Good to be back.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Francis is a daddy of four, a husband of one, and serves as the chancellor and founder of Eternity Bible College.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you know what is <em>not<\/em> on his resume\u2014that really is the defining issue in his life?\u2014his surfboard, baby. You love\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Is he a surfer?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>You like to surf; don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>I am not a good surfer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you like to surf; don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>I love it. Oh, I love it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>How often in the year would you be out on your board?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Probably 15 to 20 times. Not too often.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>But you would like to be out there\u2014double that; wouldn\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Oh, yes, some day. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>People are afraid of the Holy Spirit, though; aren\u2019t they, Francis?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>They are. You know why?\u00a0 A lot of times, when we talk about the Holy Spirit, we\u2019ll immediately jump to these controversial issues. We\u2019ll immediately jump to, maybe, a little side-note-type issue and forget the main point that God Himself lives inside my body. That is huge!\u00a0 That should change everything\u2014that one person is dead and another person is alive\u2014one person does not have God inside of him and another person does.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want you to share an illustration and a story you share from your book, <em>Forgotten God<\/em>, because you compare it to a basketball player.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You remember the story you tell?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes. It would be like\u2014if I told you\u2014if you and I played one-on-one basketball, you and I\u2014we\u2019d probably be pretty competitive. I don\u2019t know if you play basketball. Did you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I did. I did.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>He went to college\u2014a basketball scholarship.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019d probably take you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Okay. So, maybe, after this, we\u2019ll see if you are a liar or not. [Laughter]\u00a0 Okay?<\/p>\n<p>Well, let\u2019s say we play regularly; and we are pretty competitive. Then, I tell you one day\u2014I show up on the court; and I go: \u201cDennis, you\u2019ll never believe it. I had an encounter with God, where God Himself said He was going to put His Spirit in me to give me a supernatural ability to play basketball.\u201d\u00a0 Can you imagine what you would expect?\u00a0 You would expect: \u201cOkay. Let me see this because, if it is a God-thing, he is going to be awesome.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is Michael Jordan on steroids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Exactly!\u00a0 Exactly!<\/p>\n<p><strong>6:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But what if we play, and you beat me again, and it is exactly the same old Francis?\u00a0 You would start to question and go: \u201cYou are such a liar!\u00a0 You told me God came into you to give you this power.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>My problem is: \u201cHow do you think the world looks at us, as believers, when we say the Holy Spirit of God has come into us to change us\u2014to give us this supernatural character, the supernatural joy, the supernatural peace\u2014and then, they look at our lives and go: \u201cWait a second. You are the same as you were last year\u2014five years ago. I don\u2019t see any difference.\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019ll start to question. I mean, we would\u2014it is just natural.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the off-beat stuff\u2014you know what I\u2019m talking about when I talk about\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014seeing excesses, or things attributed to the Holy Spirit, where I go, \u201cI just think that is out of bounds.\u201d\u00a0 But that does cause us\u2014don\u2019t you think\u2014to kind of shut the whole deal down?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Exactly!\u00a0 That is <em>so sad<\/em> because, now, we are responding in fear\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>7:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>going, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t want to become that.\u201d\u00a0 It comes to the point, at the end of the day, you go, \u201cWell, what did the Holy Spirit do for you, then?\u201d\u00a0 Let\u2019s quit arguing about what He doesn\u2019t do. Can\u2019t we just all admit that He is supposed to do a lot?\u00a0 Then, look in your life and say: \u201cWhere is the fruit?\u201d\u00a0 How are you different from your neighbors who don\u2019t believe in Jesus Christ?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>To that point, let\u2019s just real quickly share with our listeners who the Holy Spirit is because you do this in your book. You say He is a person with emotions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He is God. He is omniscient, omnipresent. He is omnipotent. So, you are saying He is equal to God\u2014that is who the Holy Spirit is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Absolutely, absolutely. A lot of times, we don\u2019t treat Him as a person in the Trinity. We just treat Him as this abstract power. A lot of times, I hear Him referred to as It rather than Him. The Bible says: \u201cHe decides who to give gifts to.<\/p>\n<p><strong>8:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe Himself can be grieved. He is someone who wants to lead us.\u201d\u00a0 So, when you see Him as a person, you realize you don\u2019t try to harness a person. He is there to lead you. I think that is part of our problem\u2014is we\u2019ve tried to control Him rather than really submit to Him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re afraid that God is going to be disruptive to the life we\u2019re living. The reality is\u2014He probably wants to be a little disruptive to the complacency that we are in. Don\u2019t you think?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes, He wants to lead. We don\u2019t want to surrender and let someone else lead us because we don\u2019t trust that He is going to lead us in a greater direction. We are fearful that He is not\u2014that God is not a good Father\u2014leading His children to a life of more fulfillment\u2014of greater abundance.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yesterday, one of our children wrote me an email and said, \u201cI am going to take a friend out to lunch tomorrow, whose marriage is just a wreck.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>9:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My daughter said: \u201cDaddy, what should I do?\u00a0 What should I say?\u201d\u00a0 So, real quickly, I spit out a number of things that she should consider and some alternatives that she could use to minister to her. I sent the email; and then I thought, \u201cI left out\u2014I left out the most important thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I wrote my daughter back with a second email. I said: \u201cOne other thing\u2014I want you to pray and ask God for wisdom. Expect the Holy Spirit to fill you and give you the right words when you step into that situation.\u201d\u00a0 She did end up using some of the things I recommended, at that point.<\/p>\n<p>But I think the point is\u2014with our children or in our own lives\u2014it is back to something you said earlier: \u201cWe need to be expecting God to show up. We need to be expecting God to use us in other people\u2019s lives to bring about thoughts and counsel, always in line with the Scripture,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>10:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>but to help other people and be used, by Him, to change their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Absolutely. I remember a time when I was about to counsel one of my best friends. I mean, I had written letters to him, emailed him, called him, left him messages because he was about to leave his wife for this other girl. He was coming over to my house. I just thought, \u201cThis will probably be my last chance with him.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I remember getting on my knees and begging, begging, begging\u2014saying: \u201cGod, You have to do something. Make it supernatural.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cDo it like You did in the Bible times where I am just surprised by You.\u201d\u00a0 I remember him coming in. I was saying some things\u2014kind of just letting him \u201chave it.\u201d\u00a0 Nothing!\u00a0 Nothing was phasing him\u2014nothing was phasing him.<\/p>\n<p>Then, at one point in the conversation, he stops me. This was the weirdest thing. He stops me. He goes: \u201cFrancis, stop!\u00a0 Stop!\u201d\u00a0 He goes: \u201cI get it. I get it.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?\u201d\u00a0 He goes: \u201cI don\u2019t know what you even said; but suddenly, everything in my mind makes sense now. I\u2019m done. I\u2019m leaving,\u201d\u2014and he walks out the door. I just sat there, in awe\u2014like shocked, like:<\/p>\n<p><strong>11:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe doesn\u2019t even know what I said!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 He doesn\u2019t even remember anything!\u201d\u00a0 It was just\u2014I can\u2019t explain. Don\u2019t you love that stuff when you go, \u201cI certainly didn\u2019t do that.\u201d\u00a0 He just walked out of the house\u2014went back to his wife. Everything is\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The thing I want our listeners to catch out of your excitement around telling that story is\u2014this isn\u2019t just for the paid professional.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Amen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is not for the guys or the women who go to seminary\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>You don\u2019t have to write a book\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to get a degree.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014on the Holy Spirit to get there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You don\u2019t have to write a book. This is for Mommies and Daddies. This is for engaged couples that are working through some issues in their relationship before they get married. This is for married couples. They need to experience God\u2014not later\u2014now, today!<\/p>\n<p>The Christian life was not meant to be some humdrum, boring existence, where you show up once a week, and do your \u201cduty\u201d,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>12:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u2014and pay some 10 percent tax, and then go off and live your own life. It was meant to be a seven-day experience with the Creator of the universe.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Isn\u2019t that what the world wants to see, too?\u00a0 God <em>wants<\/em> to use those whom the world would say: \u201cAh, they have no natural gifting. They have no natural talent. They are not the brightest people in the world.\u201d\u00a0 God says that is whom he has chosen to shame the world.<\/p>\n<p>I think a lot of the problem in the church today is\u2014we depend on these superstars\u2014speakers, authors, musicians\u2014that are so gifted. People don\u2019t realize: \u201cNo, don\u2019t you understand? God wants to use all of us.\u201d\u00a0 He wants to supernaturally fill us so that people are blown away by the stay-at-home mom who has so much patience and so much peace\u2014even when their child is going through difficult times\u2014that they are blown away and go, \u201cWhat is that about you?\u201d\u00a0 She can point to her God.<\/p>\n<p><strong>13:00 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Bible says our light\u2014all of us\u2014our light should shine so that men would see our good works and give glory to our Father in heaven. When I look at that verse, I think to myself: \u201cA lot of times, I\u2019ll do things; and God will\u2014people will not glorify God. They\u2019ll glorify me and say, \u2018Francis\u2014good job. Hey, Francis, that was great that you did that.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t want that. I want to do things so supernatural that people know, \u201cOkay, Francis did not pull that off;\u201d and they give glory to God, the Father.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Let me ask you about\u2014because I think there are folks who are confused about what the Bible describes as being filled with the Spirit. Give us an understanding of that. There are a couple of times in your book where you talk about people having more of the Holy Spirit. I think that might be misunderstood by some. Explain what you mean.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes. I don\u2019t mean that you get more of the Holy Spirit, but you surrender more of yourself to the Holy Spirit. This idea of being filled\u2014the Bible teaches, in Ephesians 5,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>14:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>he explains that we shouldn\u2019t get drunk on wine, but we need to be filled with the Spirit. It is an ongoing action\u2014much like getting drunk. You get drunk\u2014you know, not that we would know. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m glad you clarified that!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>When other people get drunk\u2014but the idea of getting drunk is that you don\u2019t stay drunk. You sober up after a while. If you want to stay drunk, that is going to take some effort.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>You are going to have to keep drinking!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Oh, yes!\u00a0 A lot of times, we think, with the Holy Spirit, that it is this one-time action, where we are filled and we are filled for good. No, the Bible says you continually be filled with Him\u2014you continually surrender to Him. Say: \u201cHoly Spirit, what do You want me to do now?\u00a0 Holy Spirit, empower me now.\u201d\u00a0 It is an ongoing\u2014ongoing action.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And like somebody who has had too much wine\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and, now, their behavior is influenced\u2014controlled by having too much wine. To be filled with the Spirit is to have that same thing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>15:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To have the encounter with the Spirit so that your actions\u2014your behavior, your mannerisms\u2014are now controlled by the Spirit; right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes. You can tell when someone is drunk; right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>And in the same way, people ought to be able to tell when we are filled with the Holy Spirit and go: \u201cI want that!\u00a0 I want that. Whatever he has, I want that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That kind of infectious love for Christ\u2014that is what the world is looking for and what it is desperate for today. It doesn\u2019t need a plastic, veneer version of cookie-cutter Christianity. It needs real, authentic people\u2014who are individuals\u2014who are expressing their gifts and their abilities, fully under the power of the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes. If you look in Scripture\u2014I was just reading Tozer on this. He wrote this book, <em>The Mystery of the Holy Spirit<\/em>. He says, \u201cDo you see anywhere in Scripture where someone receives the Holy Spirit and doesn\u2019t know it?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Wow!\u00a0 That is a great challenge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>16:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I may not have known His name, at that point.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>You are saying it is possible to have the indwelling Holy Spirit come live in you, in an encounter with Christ, and not understand all of the theology of what is going on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Not understand everything that happened to me\u2014exactly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was reading, this past weekend, about some of what happened during the Second Great Awakening in our country. I was reading about an evangelist\u2014a guy named Asahel Nettleton. He was describing these meetings he had been preaching in. He said there was a solemnity and a sobriety that came to the meeting. He said, \u201cBut people were troubled.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cYou could tell, after these meetings, people troubled about the reality of their sin.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, he would describe how he would see people, who were wrestling and troubled with the reality of their sin, all of a sudden come to a point where they went: \u201cOh, I love Christ. Oh, I do love Christ.\u201d\u00a0 This transformation would take place. I thought, \u201cWhen someone is immersed in the Spirit\u2014when they are regenerated by the power of God,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>17:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cthey are going to love Christ.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I was thinking about your question: \u201cHow does somebody know if he has the Holy Spirit?\u201d\u00a0 I would just say, \u201cWell, do you love Christ?\u201d\u00a0 Somebody would say, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t love Him perfectly.\u201d\u00a0 Well, none of us loves Him perfectly; but, \u201cDo you love Christ?\u201d\u00a0 People who do not have the Holy Spirit don\u2019t love Jesus; do they?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>No; absolutely not. In fact, Paul says, \u201cNo one can say, \u2018Jesus is Lord,\u2019 except by the Holy Spirit.\u201d Now, obviously, he means saying, \u201cJesus is Lord,\u201d and really meaning it because anyone can say those three words.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>But he is saying: \u201cThis is going to take the Spirit of God for you to actually believe that Jesus Christ truly is and should be the Lord of your life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay. Here is the question, Francis. Let\u2019s say there is a mom, who has been listening to us. She just dropped her kids off at school. She was yelling at them\u2014 impatient with them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>It was not a good morning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There is a husband, who is on his way to work. He just had words with his wife. They slept on two different sides of the bed last night; okay?\u00a0 It is just not going well. How would you advise them?<\/p>\n<p><strong>18:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>I wouldadvise them to get on their knees, individually, before the Lord, and just believe in His Word, and to repent. I remember, one time, when my oldest daughter was only like two years old. I got so angry that I picked her up. I screamed; and I said, \u201cShut up!\u201d\u00a0 I was out of control\u2014I just remember putting her down and going, \u201cWhat did I just do?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I remember just going down to the living room, and going on my knees, and crying: \u201cOh, God, I don\u2019t ever want to do that again!\u201d\u00a0 When I told my wife, I go: \u201cHere is what I just did!\u00a0 I yelled at my two-year-old!\u2014I mean\u2014just with this uncontrollable\u2014why would I even say those words?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then, I went back into my little two-year-old\u2019s room and said: \u201cDaddy really messed up. I shouldn\u2019t yell like that; but Daddy has prayed\u2014and prayed that he will never do that again.\u201d\u00a0 I just went and got on my knees and said: \u201cGod, I know You can change me. I believe it\u2014I see it in Scripture.<\/p>\n<p><strong>19:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve had these issues with anger. God, please change me; change me; change me.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 And believe\u2014the Bible says that if you doubt, you are not going to receive anything. I really believed, at that moment, that God would change me. I can tell you\u2014right now, she is 14. I haven\u2019t yelled at her since. Twelve years\u2014it is a supernatural thing that He does.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I like where you started\u2014confession of sin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Amen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think that is the beginning point to being filled with Spirit. It is not some general confession that covers the universe of all sins.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is the confession of \u201cthe\u201d sin or the sins you have just committed that you are aware of\u2014that He has made you mindful of. Then, it is the surrender\u2014the picture of you on your knees. It is saying: \u201cI can\u2019t, but You can. I yield to You, God. You are my Lord, my Master, and my Maker. By faith, I yield to You to do in me what I cannot do for myself. Give me the control of my anger.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Francis: <\/strong>\u00a0And we <em>have<\/em> to do it with faith.<\/p>\n<p><strong>20:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We have to believe the promises of God\u2014to know that: \u201cNo temptation has overcome you except that which is common to man. And God is faithful. He will never allow you to be tempted beyond what you can handle. He will always give you a way of escape.\u201d\u00a0 So, knowing that, you have to come before the Lord and say, \u201cLord, I know that I can overcome this\u2014I am sure of it because Your Word promises me that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay. Here is the assignment before the sun sets, if this is an evening broadcast, where you are listening now. I want you to make sure you don\u2019t finish this day without knowing you are filled with the Spirit. Why live another day of your life outside of the experience of Almighty God in your life, where you can see Him at work in you, and through you\u2014using you with others\u2014but also directing and comforting you in things and issues you are facing?\u00a0 Why would anyone want to go through life like that?<\/p>\n<p><strong>21:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>You are saying we do that by confessing, repenting, and exercising faith\u2014believing the gospel. Again, I have a friend of mine who said, \u201cWe tend to think that we are to repent and believe the gospel in order to come to faith in Christ.\u201d\u00a0 That is true. But he says, \u201cThen, we think, \u2018Okay, we are done with that.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 No. He says, \u201cEvery day, I have to repent and believe the gospel again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When you talk about being filled with the Spirit, I know it gets confusing for folks, sometimes, to think about\u2014the Bible talks about being sealed with the Spirit, being baptized with the Spirit, being filled with the Spirit. Sometimes, those words can get used interchangeably. Some of that is what happens when we are first saved, but being filled with the Spirit is something that is an ongoing part of our life in Christ.<\/p>\n<p>To keep being filled with the Spirit is how that passage reads and how we are instructed. This is why I think it is helpful for people to get a copy of Francis\u2019 book because\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>22:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>it helps clarify some of the\u2014well, what are sometimes confusing aspects of the ministry of the Holy Spirit.<\/p>\n<p>You can get a copy of the book, which is called, <em>Forgotten God<\/em>, by going to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Information about the book is available there. You can order from us, online, if you would like. Again, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com; or call<\/p>\n<p>1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That is 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family \u201cL\u201d as in life and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. When you get in touch with us, we\u2019ll let you know how you can get Francis\u2019 book sent to you.<\/p>\n<p>Let me take a minute and just say a word of thanks to the folks who have gotten in touch with us, recently, to share some of what God has been doing in their lives and in their families. Our team gets together once a week. We pray specifically for prayer requests that come in from <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners, donors, Legacy Partners. We appreciate all of you who get in touch with us\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>23:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>and who, not only share what\u2019s going on, but who trust us to intercede on your behalf and to pray for you. Thank you for that privilege; and thanks for your financial support, as well. We could not do all that we do, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, without the partnership that we have with folks, like you.<\/p>\n<p>And today, if you\u2019re able to help with a donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, we would appreciate it. Simply go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the orange button that says, \u201cI CARE.\u201d\u00a0 When you make an online donation, we would be happy to send you a thank-you gift\u2014a couple of CD\u2019s that feature a conversation we had, recently, with Mark and Grace Driscoll\u2014talking about some of the challenges they faced in their dating years and in the early years of their marriage, as well.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ll send those CD\u2019s along when you make an online donation. Or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make your donation over the phone, and ask for the CD\u2019s with Mark and Grace Driscoll. Or you can request the CD\u2019s when you mail a donation\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>24:00<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, Arkansas\u2014 Arkansas is AR. And the zip code is 72223.<\/p>\n<p>Now, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to talk more about the ministry of the Holy Spirit. We\u2019re going to talk about what happened the day the Jehovah\u2019s Witnesses showed up at Francis Chan\u2019s door. I hope you can tune in tomorrow for that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.<\/p>\n<p>Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. 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