{"id":302943,"date":"2014-02-20T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-02-20T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids\/"},"modified":"2014-02-20T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-02-20T17:00:00","slug":"cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids\/","title":{"rendered":"Cultivating Generosity in Your Kids"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brad shares how giving generously has become a lifestyle for him and his family.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-02-20.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.35M","filesize_raw":"23432843","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2806],"tags":[4285],"podcast_series":[7874],"cwp_profile":[3430],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302943","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-spiritual-development","tag-generosity","podcast_series-teaching-generosity-to-your-family","cwp_profile-brad-formsma","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302943\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302943\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"pHiUALb3CI\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids\/\">Cultivating Generosity in Your Kids<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/cultivating-generosity-in-your-kids\/embed\/#?secret=pHiUALb3CI\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Cultivating Generosity in Your Kids&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"pHiUALb3CI\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How can we be more generous, and how can we raise children who embrace generosity as a virtue? We\u2019re going to talk about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. You know, I have a beef with most of the systematic theology books I\u2019ve ever looked at. There\u2019s a section in most of these books that talks about the attributes of God. They start by listing His communicable attributes and then His incommunicable attributes; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay. Now, do you want to explain what the difference between those is to our listeners?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; the incommunicable attributes means that God has them and you never will. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So back off!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is things like: He is omniscient, He is omnipotent, and He is immutable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Omnipresent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right\u2014those kinds of things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Some parents would like to have\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Be omnipresent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They would!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Actually, I\u2019m just thinking: \u201cNo, there are times I don\u2019t want to be there. I don\u2019t want to know.\u201d You know?\u2014alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, okay. Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, then, the communicable attributes are things that are true about God that can also be true about us; for example, God is loving. We can be loving, too. We can never be perfectly loving, as He is perfectly loving; but we can share in that attribute. You rarely see listed one of the attributes of God that, I think, is one of His chief attributes. It is His \u201cgivingness\u201d. He\u2019s a generous, giving God. You look at most of these books\u2014they just leave that one completely out. Yet, when you think about the most well-known Bible verse in the world\u2014the one that describes God\u2014how does it start?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cFor God so loved the world that He gave\u2026.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right\u2014love and giving are tied there, right next door.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And we have a guest with us who believes what you\u2019re talking about, Bob. In fact, this is a huge part of his life. Brad Formsma joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Brad, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Thank you for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Brad works for Generous Giving. He\u2019s all over what you\u2019re talking about, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Generous Giving\u2014our listeners are saying: \u201cWhat is that? That\u2019s a company you work for?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Generous Giving is an organization that\u2019s based out of Chattanooga, Tennessee. The big idea behind Generous Giving is to encourage people around the biblical message of generosity. Unique to it is that it\u2019s privately-funded by a foundation. We\u2019re able to just talk about the message of generosity without sliding that white envelope across the desk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Without saying, \u201cHey, can you cough up?\u201d So, here\u2019s a generous guy, who says, \u201cI want to encourage other people to be generous;\u201d and he builds an organization to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. What we realize is that our biggest influencers are our peers. When we bring people together to learn stories from each other, they\u2019re inspired.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You started a landscape design and construction company back in 1989. How much of a giver were you when you started that company?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad: <\/strong>I was on the journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI grew up with a very generous grandfather. I would spend Saturdays going with him to his bakery. He would make large production runs of baked goods throughout the week; but he had his own little private bakery, where he\u2019d make these 16 loaves of bread. We had five kids in our family, and I was the oldest. I was looking for any good reason to get out of the house and the chaos. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I\u2019d get in the back of my grandpa\u2019s big car and we\u2019d go to his bakery. We\u2019d bake these loaves of bread, and then we would set out to bring them to other people. It could be a shut-in; but it would also, maybe, be a wealthy person. It would be a kind word. It might be a loaf of bread. It might be a financial gift\u2014but I just saw it modeled for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, I was at his office. He pulled up a piece of paper that had all sorts of ministries on it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe looked at me, across the desk, and he said: \u201cBrad, giving is good. God would have you give. When you give, He\u2019ll often bring it back\u2014not so you can have a better lifestyle\u2014but that you can keep it moving\u2014keeping on doing for other people.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven though, when I started the business, I didn\u2019t have a clear\u2014as we would say, \u201cwalk with Jesus\u201d\u2014it was still in me, from that influencing, to give and to want to do for other people. We were using our business to give\u2014whether it would be an older person who needed some landscape work at their home, whether it would be discounting a church or a camp work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> At what point did your giving philosophy begin to mature and start to shift?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> When I was 28 years old, our first son, Danny, was born. At that moment in time, we had to go in for a baby dedication because my wife said, \u201cWe need to get the boy dedicated.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cI don\u2019t want to stand in front of the church and say all these Christian things because we\u2019re not living this way.\u201d We\u2019d come to the 12 o\u2019clock service and be late; or we\u2019d swing by the 12 o\u2019clock service, grab the bulletin, and then go to my mom\u2019s house for dinner; right? Because then, I could pull that out of the pocket and say: \u201cLook!\u00a0 What a service.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t exactly the best role model. So, we had a little private dedication. In that private dedication, with our family and a pastor, he asked me to share. Keep in mind, when I went in to do the pre-counseling for the dedication, I said, \u201cYou do all the talking.\u201d So, he talked for a minute; and then said, \u201cBrad\u2019s going to talk.\u201d I thought, \u201cBoy, this is exactly why I was wishing I was paying this guy because now I wouldn\u2019t be paying this guy!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d fire him; yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I walked out of that dedication and really felt a strong conviction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t know what it was at the time. Now, I know it was the Holy Spirit convicting me\u2014saying: \u201cYou can\u2019t just say it. You either have to accept it or reject it.\u201d That became a fast-paced journey of just being broken and surrendering my heart to the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was, maybe, four or five months later, that I was in Chicago\u2014on a little weekend getaway with my wife\u2014where she said, \u201cI shared my testimony with a few friends.\u201d I said: \u201cReally!\u00a0 I\u2019d like to hear your testimony.\u201d She said: \u201cWell, it\u2019s you! I knew there was no way in the world that you could be changed without something supernatural outside. You\u2019re just a different person. I came to know the Lord through the transformation in your life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In those five months!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> In those five months.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You literally had become a follower of Jesus Christ; and in the words of Jesus, you\u2019d been born again, at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And changed so much that your wife had also made a commitment to Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We always say we were the best make-believers that we knew.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you were faking it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Oh, our wedding was so spiritual that we regularly would have people come up to us and say, \u201cWhat a wonderful...\u201d; \u201cWhat a blessing...\u201d; \u201cWhat a phenomenal service that was!\u201d I actually went back to the pastor that married us, years later, and said: \u201cMan, we really faked you out. We\u2019re really sorry!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you both admit to one another that you were faking or was this just kind of an implied assumption in your marriage?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s a scary reality in our culture that we think we\u2019re all set and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019ve been to church, gone to Sunday school, know a few verses in the Bible, and know even where a few books are located in the Bible.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But that doesn\u2019t make you a believer in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, the idea that that should have anything to do with how you\u2019re living or the choices you\u2019re making. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s where you began to see the hypocrisy in your life and say: \u201cOkay, I know this stuff; but this isn\u2019t really core to my existence. This is kind of on the periphery, and I could take it or leave it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Exactly; and, Bob, for me, I observed hypocrisy in the church. That just further cemented what I believed the whole system was\u2014\u201cIt was kind of a sham.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cI\u2019m not going to be one of those hypocrites.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But your grandfather wasn\u2019t a sham.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> No, he wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He was a true follower of Christ; wasn\u2019t he?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I believe it; absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you had seen him demonstrate a generous spirit in giving to people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, when you became a true follower of Christ, you kind of hit the ground running?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> He clearly influenced me much more by his actions than by his words.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, did your giving patterns change as a Christian or was that a part of the journey?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Yes; as our company grew\u2014so did our giving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s interesting about our situation is that Laura will often say, \u201cI didn\u2019t have a lot of conversation or influencing in my life, growing up, around giving,\u201d\u2014which created some issues because\u2014I tell the story\u2014one day, there was a letter: \u201cThank you for your gift.\u201d It was a fairly sizable gift. She was standing in the kitchen, with this letter\u2014with that, \u201cWhat\u2019s this all about?\u201d-face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In other words, you hadn\u2019t talked to her about it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> No; I just sent a check from the office. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you hadn\u2019t been to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>where we talk about marital oneness. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oneness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You hadn\u2019t been to the conference; had you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad: <\/strong>I needed to go to the woodshed first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s where Laura took you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> In the kitchen, she\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re laughing about this, but explain to our listeners <em>why<\/em> a husband and a wife ought to be singing off the same song sheet when it comes to giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, the word \u201cintimacy\u201d comes to mind for me. I\u2019ve heard it said that if there isn\u2019t transparency in the financial side of a marriage, you\u2019re not exhibiting the fullness of intimacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wouldn\u2019t say just sexual intimacy. I would say an overall, relational intimacy. You see, what happened for me was that I had to slow down. I had to get over my own agenda and making things happen. What I learned was I was able to learn her heart. So, when she would come to me and say, \u201cI have a heart for these mercy kinds of organizations,\u201d I would be more of a guy that would say, \u201cBuild a bridge and get over it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s just not a good thing, but that\u2019s where I was. What I found\u2014as we gave, together, into those mercy organizations, my heart went there. So, my heart changed. I became more compassionate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a long way to go, but I\u2019m definitely seeing where my treasure and my heart connection are and how that all works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s an important point to make because people often think that the verse is: \u201cWhere your heart is your treasure will be;\u201d in other words, \u201cThe things that you really care about\u2014that\u2019s where you spend your money.\u201d You\u2019re saying: \u201cIf you need to cultivate things in your life, you ought to be sowing into that. You ought to be investing there, and your heart will come along.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was about 20 years ago that a couple came into Little Rock and sat across the room from me, in my office. The guy was wearing cowboy boots. He and his wife had come in to make a donation to FamilyLife. It had all come about because his wife had said: \u201cSweetheart, do you think if we wanted to give some money to a ministry like FamilyLife, that they\u2019d accept it? Do you think they\u2019d meet with us, and we could talk with them about what they\u2019re doing?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd her husband\u2014his name is Mike\u2014Mike just smiled and said, \u201cSweetheart, I promise you, if we wanted to make an investment in what they\u2019re doing, they\u2019ll meet with us.\u201d So, here we were\u2014now, this is 20 years ago. <em>FamilyLife Today,<\/em> at that point, was not even named. It wasn\u2019t really even an idea. We hadn\u2019t hired Bob yet, but this couple came in and basically helped underwrite the first year of launching <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. It takes, today, anywhere from two to four years before a broadcast like this can begin to get enough donors alongside it to cover the cost of syndicating, producing, and airing the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just smiling because your illustration of you kind of taking a step back to bring Laura alongside of you in your heart for giving\u2014everybody listening can apply that because it\u2019s not the amount. The issue is intimacy, oneness, and agreement. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf, as a husband, you\u2019re outrunning your wife here, you do need to take a step back and bring her alongside. Now, have your children caught the disease of generosity?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, Dennis, I like to say: \u201cWe get to give. We don\u2019t got to give.\u201d It\u2019s absolutely been part of the legacy that my grandfather left\u2014of modeling generosity\u2014in the caught, not taught, thing. We don\u2019t preach much about it. I don\u2019t think we preach at all. I really try to talk to them about the ideas of Jesus and the power of living those ideas out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when we read in Acts 20:35 about how Jesus says, \u201cIt\u2019s more blessed to give than receive,\u201d that has just become one of those staple verses in our home: \u201cThere\u2019s an idea of Jesus. We\u2019re going to live that out.\u201d\u00a0 What we find is that the more we live out His ideas, the more they become true. It just becomes part of our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a matter of fact, years ago, a mentor of mine said there are hot leads in the newspaper. What he meant by that is there are opportunities to give and do for other people, even in your local newspaper. Our family got the Sunday morning newspaper, and we saw a Sudanese family who had their bike stolen. I brought the article in. We read it, as a family, on a Sunday morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked them, \u201cWhat could we do about this?\u201d My seven-year-old\u2014he looked at us. He held up his precious little blanket. He said, \u201cI\u2019ll give them my blanket.\u201d I said: \u201cOh, Drew, bless you; but they can\u2019t ride your blanket to work\u2014any other ideas?\u201d\u00a0 My oldest son said: \u201cOh, Dad!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d We brought them into this experience where we went\u2014and we put the whole day on hold for what we were going to do\u2014because we really felt like the Lord gave us an assignment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t know this family? There was an article in the newspaper about them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Article in the newspaper\u2014needle in a haystack. The only indicator I had\u2014calling in to this mega-church that had sponsored them\u2014was a little picture in the newspaper. They wouldn\u2019t tell me where they lived. I said, \u201cWell, it looks like it\u2019s in this part of town.\u201d\u00a0 The guy said: \u201cYou\u2019re right. It\u2019s actually down on that end.\u201d I said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s enough for us to go by.\u201d I just had a strong sense we were supposed to make this happen that day. They needed to go to work the next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re talking about a family that truly needed transportation to be able to get to and from their home to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That afternoon, we had big plans, as a family. We were going to go to a fun water park and do some really neat things. We decided, as a family: \u201cWe\u2019re going to punt on that. We have to push \u2018pause\u2019 on the water park.\u201d That afternoon, we were able to come into connection with this family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How did you come into connection with them? First of all, you went to the bike store and bought bikes; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Bob, we went to Costco<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014loaded up the minivan with two bikes\u2014and set out on this adventure to find them. Because we had a picture, out of the newspaper, that had a little hose reel on the side of the house\u2014because the person at the church had given me a general idea of where they lived\u2014I said, \u201cThat\u2019s enough for us to go on.\u201d We\u2019re driving up and down these streets. We realized: \u201cOh no!\u00a0 All these houses look the same.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we went back to that newspaper clipping. There\u2019s that green hose reel, where Samson and Hussein, hopefully, live. We\u2019re knocking on the door; and they said, \u201cThey\u2019re not here.\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWhere could they have gone? They don\u2019t have any transportation!\u201d So, we drove around and got ice cream. An hour went by, and two hours, and three hours\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you found the house\u2014they just weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> They weren\u2019t there. We drove around this part of town for four hours because Laura said to me: \u201cWe got these bikes. What are we going to do?\u201d Now keep in mind, she\u2019s hearing this tape, playing in her head: \u201cWell, there are going to be hundreds of bikes in their front yard. Certainly, with 900,000 newspapers being circulated, somebody else is going to hit this need.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, when we came around the corner and they were walking into their home\u2014they had been dropped off by another family\u2014we went to their door, and they came out. We had no way to communicate, other than just to point to the bike.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Meaning they didn\u2019t speak English?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> They didn\u2019t speak English. There was no way to communicate. We just said, \u201cWe want to bless you.\u201d All the dad could say is: \u201cI like bike! I like bike!\u201d He\u2019s riding this bike down the street. My boys are clapping, and his son was clapping. The tags were still on it. We just said: \u201cHave a good day. See you later.\u201d They just waved to us, and off we went.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next morning\u2014on my way to school, dropping off my son\u2014he said to me, \u201cDad, that was way better than us ever going to that fun water park.\u201d I thought: \u201cIt\u2019s sticking. He\u2019s realizing that it\u2019s better to give than receive.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the Lord is so clear in Timothy. He tells us we can enjoy these things. He wants us to enjoy His blessings; but when He gives us these assignments, and we get to be a part of these\u2014as a matter of fact, if you go to ILikeGiving.com, you can watch \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d We spend 4\u00bd minutes re-enacting, as a family, for the very purpose of inspiring people to go out and create their own story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have a link, on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com, to the I Like Giving website. If you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link, you can watch that video and see some of the other work that\u2019s being done through I Like Giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I like about your story is\u2014it illustrates Second Corinthians, Chapter 9, verse 6. I hadn\u2019t read this in a while. This was really good for me to read. It\u2019s a great reminder. It says: \u201cThe point is this\u2014whoever sows sparingly will reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must give as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I have a feeling that, even though you\u2019d circled the neighborhood for four hours, at the point of giving, there was a lot of cheering going on as you pulled away because the kids got a chance to begin to experience reaping in a bountiful way. That\u2019s what giving really gives us the chance to do. It\u2019s back to what Bob talked about, at the beginning of the broadcast. This is a part of the character and very nature of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a good thing because God gives us all kinds of good gifts. It begins with His Son, Jesus Christ, who you talked about earlier\u2014who changed your life. The person, who is listening today to our broadcast about giving\u2014my challenge to them\u2014if they identify with Brad, before they think about giving anything to anybody, anywhere, first turn to the God who is the giver of eternal life through His Son, Jesus Christ. Receive <em>the<\/em> finest gift that will not perish\u2014that will never pass away\u2014but will secure your eternal home, and even more importantly than that, a relationship with the Lord God Almighty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have a link on our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com, that says, \u201cTWO WAYS TO LIVE\u201d. It spells out for you that there are two ways to live. You can live with yourself at the center of all that you do, and then there\u2019s another way to live where God is at the center of all you do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com to find out more about what it means to have a relationship with God and have Him be in charge of your life\u2014the One who is calling the shots for you. Look for the link for \u201cTWO WAYS TO LIVE\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, there\u2019s also a link on our website to the I Like Giving website that we talked about today. You can see some of the videos that Brad\u2019s been involved with\u2014maybe, show some of the videos to your family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd Brad has just written a book called <em>I Like Giving.<\/em> We have that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. Again\u2014a great book to read through together, as a family\u2014maybe, at the dinner table or the breakfast table. Read a chapter, at a time, as you sit down for a meal with your family. Find out more about the <em>I Like Giving <\/em>book and videos. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or order a copy of the book from us by calling 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to take a minute and say a word of thanks to the generous givers who link arms with us, here at FamilyLife. We are a listener-supported ministry. If it weren\u2019t for people\u2014who like giving\u2014who listen to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>and then call, or go online, or mail a check to us\u2014we couldn\u2019t do all that we do. In fact, more than 60 percent of the money we need to operate the ministry comes from folks, like you, making donations to help support this work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help with a donation this month, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a couple of CDs that feature a conversation we had with pastor Mark Driscoll and his wife Grace, talking about some of the challenges they have faced, both before they were married and in the early years of their marriage. I think their transparency is healthy and helpful. We\u2019d love to send you the CDs that feature our conversation with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com, click the button that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d to make an online donation. We\u2019ll send the CDs out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you make a donation over the phone, ask for the CDs called <em>Real Marriage with Mark and Grace Driscoll<\/em>. Or you can mail a check to us at <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Our mailing address is Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow. We\u2019re going to hear more about giving from Brad Formsma and talk about how we cultivate a heart of generosity in our kids. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How can we be more generous, and how can we raise children who embrace generosity as a virtue? We\u2019re going to talk about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. You know, I have a beef with most of the systematic theology books I\u2019ve ever looked at. There\u2019s a section in most of these books that talks about the attributes of God. They start by listing His communicable attributes and then His incommunicable attributes; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay. Now, do you want to explain what the difference between those is to our listeners?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; the incommunicable attributes means that God has them and you never will. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So back off!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is things like: He is omniscient, He is omnipotent, and He is immutable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Omnipresent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right\u2014those kinds of things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Some parents would like to have\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Be omnipresent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They would!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Actually, I\u2019m just thinking: \u201cNo, there are times I don\u2019t want to be there. I don\u2019t want to know.\u201d You know?\u2014alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, okay. Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, then, the communicable attributes are things that are true about God that can also be true about us; for example, God is loving. We can be loving, too. We can never be perfectly loving, as He is perfectly loving; but we can share in that attribute. You rarely see listed one of the attributes of God that, I think, is one of His chief attributes. It is His \u201cgivingness\u201d. He\u2019s a generous, giving God. You look at most of these books\u2014they just leave that one completely out. Yet, when you think about the most well-known Bible verse in the world\u2014the one that describes God\u2014how does it start?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cFor God so loved the world that He gave\u2026.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right\u2014love and giving are tied there, right next door.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And we have a guest with us who believes what you\u2019re talking about, Bob. In fact, this is a huge part of his life. Brad Formsma joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Brad, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Thank you for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Brad works for Generous Giving. He\u2019s all over what you\u2019re talking about, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Generous Giving\u2014our listeners are saying: \u201cWhat is that? That\u2019s a company you work for?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Generous Giving is an organization that\u2019s based out of Chattanooga, Tennessee. The big idea behind Generous Giving is to encourage people around the biblical message of generosity. Unique to it is that it\u2019s privately-funded by a foundation. We\u2019re able to just talk about the message of generosity without sliding that white envelope across the desk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Without saying, \u201cHey, can you cough up?\u201d So, here\u2019s a generous guy, who says, \u201cI want to encourage other people to be generous;\u201d and he builds an organization to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. What we realize is that our biggest influencers are our peers. When we bring people together to learn stories from each other, they\u2019re inspired.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You started a landscape design and construction company back in 1989. How much of a giver were you when you started that company?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad: <\/strong>I was on the journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI grew up with a very generous grandfather. I would spend Saturdays going with him to his bakery. He would make large production runs of baked goods throughout the week; but he had his own little private bakery, where he\u2019d make these 16 loaves of bread. We had five kids in our family, and I was the oldest. I was looking for any good reason to get out of the house and the chaos. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I\u2019d get in the back of my grandpa\u2019s big car and we\u2019d go to his bakery. We\u2019d bake these loaves of bread, and then we would set out to bring them to other people. It could be a shut-in; but it would also, maybe, be a wealthy person. It would be a kind word. It might be a loaf of bread. It might be a financial gift\u2014but I just saw it modeled for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, I was at his office. He pulled up a piece of paper that had all sorts of ministries on it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe looked at me, across the desk, and he said: \u201cBrad, giving is good. God would have you give. When you give, He\u2019ll often bring it back\u2014not so you can have a better lifestyle\u2014but that you can keep it moving\u2014keeping on doing for other people.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven though, when I started the business, I didn\u2019t have a clear\u2014as we would say, \u201cwalk with Jesus\u201d\u2014it was still in me, from that influencing, to give and to want to do for other people. We were using our business to give\u2014whether it would be an older person who needed some landscape work at their home, whether it would be discounting a church or a camp work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> At what point did your giving philosophy begin to mature and start to shift?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> When I was 28 years old, our first son, Danny, was born. At that moment in time, we had to go in for a baby dedication because my wife said, \u201cWe need to get the boy dedicated.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cI don\u2019t want to stand in front of the church and say all these Christian things because we\u2019re not living this way.\u201d We\u2019d come to the 12 o\u2019clock service and be late; or we\u2019d swing by the 12 o\u2019clock service, grab the bulletin, and then go to my mom\u2019s house for dinner; right? Because then, I could pull that out of the pocket and say: \u201cLook!\u00a0 What a service.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t exactly the best role model. So, we had a little private dedication. In that private dedication, with our family and a pastor, he asked me to share. Keep in mind, when I went in to do the pre-counseling for the dedication, I said, \u201cYou do all the talking.\u201d So, he talked for a minute; and then said, \u201cBrad\u2019s going to talk.\u201d I thought, \u201cBoy, this is exactly why I was wishing I was paying this guy because now I wouldn\u2019t be paying this guy!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d fire him; yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I walked out of that dedication and really felt a strong conviction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t know what it was at the time. Now, I know it was the Holy Spirit convicting me\u2014saying: \u201cYou can\u2019t just say it. You either have to accept it or reject it.\u201d That became a fast-paced journey of just being broken and surrendering my heart to the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was, maybe, four or five months later, that I was in Chicago\u2014on a little weekend getaway with my wife\u2014where she said, \u201cI shared my testimony with a few friends.\u201d I said: \u201cReally!\u00a0 I\u2019d like to hear your testimony.\u201d She said: \u201cWell, it\u2019s you! I knew there was no way in the world that you could be changed without something supernatural outside. You\u2019re just a different person. I came to know the Lord through the transformation in your life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In those five months!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> In those five months.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You literally had become a follower of Jesus Christ; and in the words of Jesus, you\u2019d been born again, at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And changed so much that your wife had also made a commitment to Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We always say we were the best make-believers that we knew.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you were faking it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Oh, our wedding was so spiritual that we regularly would have people come up to us and say, \u201cWhat a wonderful...\u201d; \u201cWhat a blessing...\u201d; \u201cWhat a phenomenal service that was!\u201d I actually went back to the pastor that married us, years later, and said: \u201cMan, we really faked you out. We\u2019re really sorry!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you both admit to one another that you were faking or was this just kind of an implied assumption in your marriage?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s a scary reality in our culture that we think we\u2019re all set and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cWe\u2019ve been to church, gone to Sunday school, know a few verses in the Bible, and know even where a few books are located in the Bible.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But that doesn\u2019t make you a believer in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, the idea that that should have anything to do with how you\u2019re living or the choices you\u2019re making. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s where you began to see the hypocrisy in your life and say: \u201cOkay, I know this stuff; but this isn\u2019t really core to my existence. This is kind of on the periphery, and I could take it or leave it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Exactly; and, Bob, for me, I observed hypocrisy in the church. That just further cemented what I believed the whole system was\u2014\u201cIt was kind of a sham.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cI\u2019m not going to be one of those hypocrites.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But your grandfather wasn\u2019t a sham.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> No, he wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He was a true follower of Christ; wasn\u2019t he?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I believe it; absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you had seen him demonstrate a generous spirit in giving to people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, when you became a true follower of Christ, you kind of hit the ground running?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> He clearly influenced me much more by his actions than by his words.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, did your giving patterns change as a Christian or was that a part of the journey?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Yes; as our company grew\u2014so did our giving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s interesting about our situation is that Laura will often say, \u201cI didn\u2019t have a lot of conversation or influencing in my life, growing up, around giving,\u201d\u2014which created some issues because\u2014I tell the story\u2014one day, there was a letter: \u201cThank you for your gift.\u201d It was a fairly sizable gift. She was standing in the kitchen, with this letter\u2014with that, \u201cWhat\u2019s this all about?\u201d-face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In other words, you hadn\u2019t talked to her about it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> No; I just sent a check from the office. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you hadn\u2019t been to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>where we talk about marital oneness. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oneness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You hadn\u2019t been to the conference; had you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad: <\/strong>I needed to go to the woodshed first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s where Laura took you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> In the kitchen, she\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re laughing about this, but explain to our listeners <em>why<\/em> a husband and a wife ought to be singing off the same song sheet when it comes to giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, the word \u201cintimacy\u201d comes to mind for me. I\u2019ve heard it said that if there isn\u2019t transparency in the financial side of a marriage, you\u2019re not exhibiting the fullness of intimacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wouldn\u2019t say just sexual intimacy. I would say an overall, relational intimacy. You see, what happened for me was that I had to slow down. I had to get over my own agenda and making things happen. What I learned was I was able to learn her heart. So, when she would come to me and say, \u201cI have a heart for these mercy kinds of organizations,\u201d I would be more of a guy that would say, \u201cBuild a bridge and get over it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s just not a good thing, but that\u2019s where I was. What I found\u2014as we gave, together, into those mercy organizations, my heart went there. So, my heart changed. I became more compassionate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a long way to go, but I\u2019m definitely seeing where my treasure and my heart connection are and how that all works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s an important point to make because people often think that the verse is: \u201cWhere your heart is your treasure will be;\u201d in other words, \u201cThe things that you really care about\u2014that\u2019s where you spend your money.\u201d You\u2019re saying: \u201cIf you need to cultivate things in your life, you ought to be sowing into that. You ought to be investing there, and your heart will come along.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was about 20 years ago that a couple came into Little Rock and sat across the room from me, in my office. The guy was wearing cowboy boots. He and his wife had come in to make a donation to FamilyLife. It had all come about because his wife had said: \u201cSweetheart, do you think if we wanted to give some money to a ministry like FamilyLife, that they\u2019d accept it? Do you think they\u2019d meet with us, and we could talk with them about what they\u2019re doing?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd her husband\u2014his name is Mike\u2014Mike just smiled and said, \u201cSweetheart, I promise you, if we wanted to make an investment in what they\u2019re doing, they\u2019ll meet with us.\u201d So, here we were\u2014now, this is 20 years ago. <em>FamilyLife Today,<\/em> at that point, was not even named. It wasn\u2019t really even an idea. We hadn\u2019t hired Bob yet, but this couple came in and basically helped underwrite the first year of launching <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. It takes, today, anywhere from two to four years before a broadcast like this can begin to get enough donors alongside it to cover the cost of syndicating, producing, and airing the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just smiling because your illustration of you kind of taking a step back to bring Laura alongside of you in your heart for giving\u2014everybody listening can apply that because it\u2019s not the amount. The issue is intimacy, oneness, and agreement. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf, as a husband, you\u2019re outrunning your wife here, you do need to take a step back and bring her alongside. Now, have your children caught the disease of generosity?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, Dennis, I like to say: \u201cWe get to give. We don\u2019t got to give.\u201d It\u2019s absolutely been part of the legacy that my grandfather left\u2014of modeling generosity\u2014in the caught, not taught, thing. We don\u2019t preach much about it. I don\u2019t think we preach at all. I really try to talk to them about the ideas of Jesus and the power of living those ideas out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when we read in Acts 20:35 about how Jesus says, \u201cIt\u2019s more blessed to give than receive,\u201d that has just become one of those staple verses in our home: \u201cThere\u2019s an idea of Jesus. We\u2019re going to live that out.\u201d\u00a0 What we find is that the more we live out His ideas, the more they become true. It just becomes part of our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a matter of fact, years ago, a mentor of mine said there are hot leads in the newspaper. What he meant by that is there are opportunities to give and do for other people, even in your local newspaper. Our family got the Sunday morning newspaper, and we saw a Sudanese family who had their bike stolen. I brought the article in. We read it, as a family, on a Sunday morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked them, \u201cWhat could we do about this?\u201d My seven-year-old\u2014he looked at us. He held up his precious little blanket. He said, \u201cI\u2019ll give them my blanket.\u201d I said: \u201cOh, Drew, bless you; but they can\u2019t ride your blanket to work\u2014any other ideas?\u201d\u00a0 My oldest son said: \u201cOh, Dad!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d We brought them into this experience where we went\u2014and we put the whole day on hold for what we were going to do\u2014because we really felt like the Lord gave us an assignment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t know this family? There was an article in the newspaper about them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Article in the newspaper\u2014needle in a haystack. The only indicator I had\u2014calling in to this mega-church that had sponsored them\u2014was a little picture in the newspaper. They wouldn\u2019t tell me where they lived. I said, \u201cWell, it looks like it\u2019s in this part of town.\u201d\u00a0 The guy said: \u201cYou\u2019re right. It\u2019s actually down on that end.\u201d I said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s enough for us to go by.\u201d I just had a strong sense we were supposed to make this happen that day. They needed to go to work the next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re talking about a family that truly needed transportation to be able to get to and from their home to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That afternoon, we had big plans, as a family. We were going to go to a fun water park and do some really neat things. We decided, as a family: \u201cWe\u2019re going to punt on that. We have to push \u2018pause\u2019 on the water park.\u201d That afternoon, we were able to come into connection with this family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How did you come into connection with them? First of all, you went to the bike store and bought bikes; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Bob, we went to Costco<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014loaded up the minivan with two bikes\u2014and set out on this adventure to find them. Because we had a picture, out of the newspaper, that had a little hose reel on the side of the house\u2014because the person at the church had given me a general idea of where they lived\u2014I said, \u201cThat\u2019s enough for us to go on.\u201d We\u2019re driving up and down these streets. We realized: \u201cOh no!\u00a0 All these houses look the same.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we went back to that newspaper clipping. There\u2019s that green hose reel, where Samson and Hussein, hopefully, live. We\u2019re knocking on the door; and they said, \u201cThey\u2019re not here.\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWhere could they have gone? They don\u2019t have any transportation!\u201d So, we drove around and got ice cream. An hour went by, and two hours, and three hours\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you found the house\u2014they just weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> They weren\u2019t there. We drove around this part of town for four hours because Laura said to me: \u201cWe got these bikes. What are we going to do?\u201d Now keep in mind, she\u2019s hearing this tape, playing in her head: \u201cWell, there are going to be hundreds of bikes in their front yard. Certainly, with 900,000 newspapers being circulated, somebody else is going to hit this need.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, when we came around the corner and they were walking into their home\u2014they had been dropped off by another family\u2014we went to their door, and they came out. We had no way to communicate, other than just to point to the bike.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Meaning they didn\u2019t speak English?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> They didn\u2019t speak English. There was no way to communicate. We just said, \u201cWe want to bless you.\u201d All the dad could say is: \u201cI like bike! I like bike!\u201d He\u2019s riding this bike down the street. My boys are clapping, and his son was clapping. The tags were still on it. We just said: \u201cHave a good day. See you later.\u201d They just waved to us, and off we went.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next morning\u2014on my way to school, dropping off my son\u2014he said to me, \u201cDad, that was way better than us ever going to that fun water park.\u201d I thought: \u201cIt\u2019s sticking. He\u2019s realizing that it\u2019s better to give than receive.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the Lord is so clear in Timothy. He tells us we can enjoy these things. He wants us to enjoy His blessings; but when He gives us these assignments, and we get to be a part of these\u2014as a matter of fact, if you go to ILikeGiving.com, you can watch \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d We spend 4\u00bd minutes re-enacting, as a family, for the very purpose of inspiring people to go out and create their own story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have a link, on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com, to the I Like Giving website. If you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link, you can watch that video and see some of the other work that\u2019s being done through I Like Giving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I like about your story is\u2014it illustrates Second Corinthians, Chapter 9, verse 6. I hadn\u2019t read this in a while. This was really good for me to read. It\u2019s a great reminder. It says: \u201cThe point is this\u2014whoever sows sparingly will reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must give as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I have a feeling that, even though you\u2019d circled the neighborhood for four hours, at the point of giving, there was a lot of cheering going on as you pulled away because the kids got a chance to begin to experience reaping in a bountiful way. That\u2019s what giving really gives us the chance to do. It\u2019s back to what Bob talked about, at the beginning of the broadcast. This is a part of the character and very nature of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a good thing because God gives us all kinds of good gifts. It begins with His Son, Jesus Christ, who you talked about earlier\u2014who changed your life. The person, who is listening today to our broadcast about giving\u2014my challenge to them\u2014if they identify with Brad, before they think about giving anything to anybody, anywhere, first turn to the God who is the giver of eternal life through His Son, Jesus Christ. Receive <em>the<\/em> finest gift that will not perish\u2014that will never pass away\u2014but will secure your eternal home, and even more importantly than that, a relationship with the Lord God Almighty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have a link on our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com, that says, \u201cTWO WAYS TO LIVE\u201d. It spells out for you that there are two ways to live. You can live with yourself at the center of all that you do, and then there\u2019s another way to live where God is at the center of all you do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com to find out more about what it means to have a relationship with God and have Him be in charge of your life\u2014the One who is calling the shots for you. Look for the link for \u201cTWO WAYS TO LIVE\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, there\u2019s also a link on our website to the I Like Giving website that we talked about today. You can see some of the videos that Brad\u2019s been involved with\u2014maybe, show some of the videos to your family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd Brad has just written a book called <em>I Like Giving.<\/em> We have that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. Again\u2014a great book to read through together, as a family\u2014maybe, at the dinner table or the breakfast table. Read a chapter, at a time, as you sit down for a meal with your family. Find out more about the <em>I Like Giving <\/em>book and videos. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or order a copy of the book from us by calling 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to take a minute and say a word of thanks to the generous givers who link arms with us, here at FamilyLife. We are a listener-supported ministry. If it weren\u2019t for people\u2014who like giving\u2014who listen to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>and then call, or go online, or mail a check to us\u2014we couldn\u2019t do all that we do. In fact, more than 60 percent of the money we need to operate the ministry comes from folks, like you, making donations to help support this work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help with a donation this month, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a couple of CDs that feature a conversation we had with pastor Mark Driscoll and his wife Grace, talking about some of the challenges they have faced, both before they were married and in the early years of their marriage. I think their transparency is healthy and helpful. We\u2019d love to send you the CDs that feature our conversation with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com, click the button that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d to make an online donation. We\u2019ll send the CDs out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you make a donation over the phone, ask for the CDs called <em>Real Marriage with Mark and Grace Driscoll<\/em>. Or you can mail a check to us at <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Our mailing address is Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow. We\u2019re going to hear more about giving from Brad Formsma and talk about how we cultivate a heart of generosity in our kids. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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