{"id":302925,"date":"2014-02-04T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-02-04T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-key-to-a-great-relationship\/"},"modified":"2014-02-04T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-02-04T17:00:00","slug":"the-key-to-a-great-relationship","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-key-to-a-great-relationship\/","title":{"rendered":"The Key to a Great Relationship"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brothers Alex and Stephen Kendrick reminisce about their childhood and the often comical spats they had growing up, and still sometimes have today.  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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk today with Stephen and Alex Kendrick about how we cultivate a heart for God in our children\u2019s lives. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob, I\u2019ve got a question I want to ask our guests. They\u2019ve been on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> a number of times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They\u2019re pretty good buddies\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and we don\u2019t ask them real hard questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The movie stars\u2014you talking about the movie stars we\u2019ve got here? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Stephen and Alex Kendrick join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Hi, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> These guys have made movies\u2014<em>Fireproof<\/em>. They\u2019ve written books\u2014<em>The Love Dare<\/em>. They\u2019ve got a new one called <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. But the bio I\u2019ve got on you guys was\u2014you\u2019re brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you\u2014you know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You need the bio to know that? You didn\u2019t realize that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t\u2014but I looked at it; and I go, \u201cPastors, film makers, authors, and brothers.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> The miracle of God\u2019s salvation. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, we get along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are some moms\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s the answer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> And we get along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are some moms and dads, who are moving to the edge of their chairs as I ask this question: \u201cTell us your worst encounter, as brothers.\u201d You both have to think of one; then, just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got mine already. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Oh no! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I mean, tell me what\u2014because there are some parents, who need hope\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that their kids are going to grow up, and they\u2019re going to be brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We grew up fighting. I used to hide under Alex\u2019s bed and make fun of him and laugh at him because he would sneak in his room and lock the door. He didn\u2019t know anyone was in there. [Laughter] We did some pretty mean\/harsh things for one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Like? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, I remember when I was in high school. Alex was in college and was trying to impress all his college buddies. We were at a dinner. I started unpacking all the embarrassing memories of Alex, growing up, in front of his friends. They got a big laugh out of it. After that dinner, Alex pulled me off to the side. He said: \u201cI am trying to be a team player to you. I know the same things about you, Stephen, but I\u2019m not sharing them. I\u2019m trying to affirm you, as my brother.\u201d And he said: \u201cYou have to do the same thing for me. We have to be a team.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> And that has come-to-Jesus moment for me\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He took the high road\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, he did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and called you off the low road. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Well, I haven\u2019t always taken the high road; but no, there was one time\u2014one time\u2014and I was so furious. I made, when I was\u2014I don\u2019t remember if I was 18 or 19 years old\u2014I put the video camera\u2014pointed it at the couch, sat on the couch, and talked to my future teenage son. [Laughter] I did. And I was\u2014I thought I was being so wise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere I am, 18 years old, trying to teach my future 18-year-old son what I\u2019m thinking\u2014\u201cWhy I stayed away from drugs,\u201d or, \u201c\u2026this or that,\u201d or, \u201cI don\u2019t understand girls,\u201d\u2014you know, whatever it is\u2014had my heart broken. I thought that was\u2014well, Stephen found the video tape. So, he decided he needed to add to this video tape, without me knowing. So, he sits\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Post-production. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> \u2014He sits back on the couch\u2014puts the camera at him, after the video tape finished. Then, says: \u201cAnd now, as Alex\u2019s little brother, let me tell you the real deal,\u201d [Laughter] and adds other stuff. So, my kids still haven\u2019t seen this tape\u2014but anyway\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Someday\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> No, that didn\u2019t go over well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the whole world\u2014this needs to be on YouTube, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think we need to put it on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for listeners. [Laughter] Who owns it? Who\u2019s got it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> It could be bad. It could be bad. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> No, I\u2019ll tell you a serious one\u2014a serious one\u2014and I\u2019ll be quick about it. We had finished <em>Fireproof<\/em>, and both of us were drained. I mean, we were just wiped-out. We were doing 16-hour days\u2014week, after week, after week, after week. We\u2019re trying to finish the edit\u2014work on the DVD features. We\u2019re working on <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. We\u2019re working with the our novelist on\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Curriculum. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> \u2014yes, curriculum\u2014and on the novel for <em>Fireproof<\/em>. I mean, we were just drained. I remember I was just tired. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This was a movie about marital conflict that you guys made. You\u2019d finished\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014it up. And what happened? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> So, yes, we\u2019re\u2014I\u2019m finishing up the edit. I was point-man on the movie. Stephen is point-man on the curriculum and on the book, <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. So, Stephen has more investment in <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. I have more investment in the movie. But we still work together. We were so tired, and I thought Stephen should\u2019ve been further along on the research for <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. I\u2019m tired of editing the movie. We got into an argument because I knew, as soon as the movie was done, \u201cWe have to finish <em>The Love Dare<\/em>,\u201d which is funny\u2014it\u2019s so ironic. We\u2019re <em>fighting<\/em> while we\u2019re finishing <em>The Love Dare<\/em>\u2014but anyway, but yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I was so tired. I was irritated at him. At the same time, I wasn\u2019t looking from the big perspective of how much Stephen had been adding to the movie and <em>The Love Dare<\/em>,which was a ton. I\u2019m just looking at my own hours invested in this thing. So, I yelled at him. I was like: \u201cYou have no sense of\u2014you don\u2019t have a clock in your head. We\u2019re supposed to turn this thing in at a certain time. It\u2019s due. We\u2019ve already blown past the due date.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, Stephen is producer for these films. He\u2019s handling all the extra things, outside of the edit room, that I don\u2019t have to worry about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> I\u2019m fighting all the battles outside the room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> So, I get mad and yelled at him. He\u2019s defending himself. We\u2019re going back and forth. That was the last big argument we had. So, several years ago\u2014but we, again\u2014made amends, apologize, all that kind of stuff\u2014but my point is this: We <em>both<\/em> have strengths, and we <em>both<\/em> have weaknesses. We work as a partnership\u2014especially, when we have accountability, outside of this brother partnership\u2014things go really well. But again, it\u2019s this process of dying to yourself and staying humble and realizing your need for other people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can\u2019t do everything yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, Stephen and my older brother, Shannon, are great brothers; but at the same time, that brotherly competition\/friction, every once in a while, pops up. You\u2019ve got to deal with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> The key, though, is our relationships with Christ\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> \u2014with all three of us. The Lord has transformed our hearts. He\u2019s given us a love for one another. We\u2019re all three in the Word. We\u2019re all three praying for each other\u2014and God is giving us, continually\u2014helps to be hard to offend and quick to forgive with each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and what\u2019s true for brothers is also true for husbands and wives and for moms and dads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you guys wrote <em>The Love Dare for Parents, <\/em>you\u2019re really calling husbands and wives and get on the same page together and to be proactive in making sure that the kids understand, in some very specific ways\u2014\u201cYou\u2019re loved. You\u2019re valued. You\u2019re appreciated,\u201d\u2014so that they grow up with a sense of God\u2019s love filtering through you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And really, we talk about\u2014parents want their children to be blessed; but Scripture communicates that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twhen parents fear the Lord\u2014that God will, then, bless their children. It says in \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPsalm 112\u2014when we\u2019re delighting in the Lord on a daily basis, when we\u2019re praying for our kids, and when we\u2019re walking with Jesus and modeling the Way\u2014we set up our kids to be blessed. So, it\u2019s easy for us, as parents, to say one thing; then, we don\u2019t model that in our own lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, in the book, we talk about walking intimately with God and letting Him be your satisfaction because, really, the Holy Spirit is the one who gives us love in our hearts. That love causes us to be patient, and kind, and not rude, and not jealous, and those things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Some of these dares are a dare to the parent to square away their relationship with God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> With Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Give us an illustration of one and kind of what the dare is\u2014the love dare for a parent who is raising a child or a whole family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We talk about parents finding their contentment and satisfaction in Christ rather than in their circumstances. You know, our kids can become\u2014if we\u2019re not careful, they can become an idol in our lives. They can become the whole center of our identity, as parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey are loved and welcomed members of the family; but Christ should always be where we go to\u2014as our refuge\u2014as our source for love, and joy, and peace. Those are the first three fruits of the Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Those only come from God. So, we talk about, in the book, learning to zero down, with the Lord, and learning to\u2014not only to surrender your life to Christ\u2014but walk with Him, intimately, on a daily basis because that\u2019s really the <em>key<\/em> to being the parent that your kids need. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> And what the enemy tries to do\u2014and he does this in every area of life\u2014he wants you at one extreme or the other. He does not want you well-balanced and stable. This is, again, true for marriage and everything. For children\u2014he wants you either to so idolize your children and invest in your children that you disregard other important things\u2014or he wants you so detached from your kids that they are like: \u201cYes, my parents don\u2019t even love me. I\u2019m always on the back burner,\u201d\u2014whatever. But he doesn\u2019t want you having that healthy balance of: \u201cGod is first, my spouse is second, and you are close behind that, as my children\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2018I love you. I treasure you. I\u2019m glad God gave you to me.\u2019\u201d They need to hear that from your mouth. But at the same time, they know they are not it\u2014they\u2019re not your number one priority. The Lord is number one; then, your spouse; then, the children. When the children see that, they will carry that on to their families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And practically-speaking, before we came in the studio, Stephen, you were talking about one of these love dares that you\u2019re spending some time with your kids\u2014right now, on\u2014is the fear of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How are you explaining that to your children, and how are you teaching it to them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> The fear of the Lord is when we take God very seriously. Scripture communicates that so many wonderful things happen when we fear the Lord. If you read\u2014just Psalm 34\u2014it talks about the angel of the Lord encamps around about those who fear the Lord\u2014that God satisfies those who fear the Lord. When we develop a holy, reverent respect for God\u2014where we are taking His Word seriously \/ we\u2019re taking our relationship with Him seriously\u2014it <em>blesses<\/em> every area of our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou read that in Proverbs. With our kids, we\u2014last year, we walked through \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPsalm 139 with them\u2014that: God always sees you, He\u2019s always watching you, you\u2019re accountable to Him, and He loves you. One day, you will stand before Him. If kids can develop a fear of the Lord, then, when they are not around their parents, they\u2019re still going to make good, wise decisions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you look at Joseph, he ran from Potiphar\u2019s wife because he said: \u201cGod sees me. God is watching me.\u201d So, the Bible says, \u201cThe fear of the Lord causes us to hate and depart from evil and to walk in truth and honesty.\u201d So, with our kids, we are teaching them that they\u2019re going to reap what they sow\u2014that God always sees them, He\u2019s always with them, and they are accountable to Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever read Jerry Bridges book about the joy of fearing God\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014but he talks about the difference between a slavish fear, which is not what we are talking about when we talk about fearing the Lord\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014but our holy fear of God. He uses the illustration of a private, who is attached as an aide to a Four-Star General. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he says: \u201cThey spend all the time together. They build a relationship, and they know one another. But the private always is aware of whom this General is\u2014what this General\u2019s authority is. He would never become so causal with the General as to call him by his first name. He would always have that respect because of the office of this General. Yet, they could have a warm, loving relationship.\u201d That\u2019s how our kids need to understand what\u2014that God\u2019s not like your buddy, who you just pal around with. No, He is God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, He is. He\u2019s holy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We need to understand His awesome transcendence and His holiness; but at the same time, He invites us to a deep relationship like the General and the private have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, and our respect for Him\u2014when we <em>greatly<\/em> respect God, our intimacy with Him actually goes deeper. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> If you think about that\u2014if you don\u2019t teach your children to respect you, as their parents, you\u2019re preparing them to disrespect all authority in the future, including the Lord. As we\u2019re developing a respect-training in our kids, we also balance that out with our love with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur intimacy with them goes deeper because of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You actually challenge and lead your children in memorizing Scripture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rattle off a few of the Scriptures that you would point parents to so they can write them down, right now, to be able to teach to their kids to fear God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I\u2019ll give you one to start with\u2014it\u2019s Psalm 112. You mentioned it earlier\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014really, the first four or five verses: \u201cPraise the Lord. Blessed is the man who fears the Lord, who greatly delights in His commandments. His offspring will be mighty in the land. The generation of the upright will be blessed.\u201d Again, that\u2019s a generational impact that we have, as parents, by, first of all\u2014we fear God\u2014we walk in reverence of the General\u2014as Bob was talking about\u2014recognizing who He is, and we\u2019re passing on that fear to our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat are some other passages? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We went through, like I said, Psalm 139.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a great passage to talk about God\u2019s intimacy in our lives. We memorized \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEphesians 6 with our kids. We just went through it. It took us a year with our children, but they learned respect and honor towards authority. Also, they learned the armor of God. They learned to be strong in the Lord and the power of His might; and they learned submission to authority, at the same time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, did you pick Ephesians 6 because of where it starts out [Laughter] because 6:1 is: \u201cChildren obey your parents, in the Lord,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor this is right\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That is the only command the New Testament gives to children is to honor and obey their parents; so, we needed to start there! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, Psalm 119:1-18. My son memorized\u2014Joshua\u2014about how a young man can keep his way pure. Then, Psalm 1\u2014talking about who you hang out with: \u201cBlessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the ungodly, or stand in the way of sinners.\u201d And so, my kids memorized all of Psalm 1; and that passage in Psalm 119; and, of course, several other ones. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut a funny one\u2014I\u2019ve got to say this real quick\u2014we memorized Proverbs 27:14. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen my kids were being loud in the morning\u2014and they were singing, trying to wake each other up\u2014and so, I said, \u201cI want you turn to Proverbs 27:14, which says, \u2018He that blesses his friend with a loud voice in the morning will be counted a curse to him.\u2019\u201d [Laughter] I said: \u201cIn other words, guys, in the morning, you don\u2019t just start screaming and yelling to wake everybody up unless you have to\u2014if it\u2019s an emergency. But go in there and wake them up when it\u2019s time to get up. Let\u2019s do breakfast and school work.\u201d So, they\u2019re like, \u201cWow!\u201d and they start laughing. So, they learned this verse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of our favorites, at the dinner table\u2014and I don\u2019t remember the address\u2014but there\u2019s a proverb that says, \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is the man who provokes his friend and then says,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> \u201cI was only joking.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI was only joking.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> That\u2019s it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, and we got that all the time, at our house. Kids would say something to one another and go: \u201cI was just kidding. I\u2019m just kidding.\u201d We\u2019d say, \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows\u2026.\u201d I mean, we tossed that around so often\u2014they could recite that one today if you went to them, as adults. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What we\u2019re talking about here is passing on the truth of God and, also, the experience of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And those are both absolutely essential. If you pass on the truth of God, without an experience of God, that becomes boxy; and there\u2019s no\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Legalistic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014Yes. It does. There\u2019s no joy because God loves us, and wants to relate to us, and wants us to experience Him on a daily basis. So, it\u2019s the truth of God and the experience of God that we, as parents, are passing on to the next generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you know, there are probably some parents who are listening and saying: \u201cOkay, you started off talking about \u201cHow can we express love to our kids?\u201d Then, we got off on Scripture memory. So, tie these two together for me. Having my kids memorize Scripture\u2014they don\u2019t go, \u2018I know Mom and Dad love me because they made me memorize Ephesians 6 last year.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, the source of love is God, Himself, and the Bible is the love letter\u2014ultimate love letter from God. When parents are teaching their kids truth\u2014you know, \u201cLove rejoices in the truth,\u201d\u2014it says in First Corinthians 13\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twell, they are not going to be able to do that unless they know what the truth is. So, it is so important that we have those parallel tracks\u2014that we are speaking the truth in love \/ that we are planting the truth of God\u2019s Word into that soil of a loving relationship with our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis was talking about relationship. Deuteronomy 6-8 communicates: \u201cWe are to love God with all our heart, mind, soul, strength. Then, we are to teach our children when we rise up, walk in the way, sit in our house, and go to bed at night. All the time, we are communicating: \u201cHere\u2019s how you love God. Here\u2019s how you walk with God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we do that, we are setting up our kids for ultimate success beyond anything that we could buy them possession-wise, any schooling or training that we could give them, any scholarship at college. If they\u2019ll love the Lord and fear the Lord, they are set up to do the will of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s got to be done with the right heart and right motivation, though. This has got to come from a mom and dad, where you really do want to bless your child and where you are not trying to build in legalism, because you\u2019ve seen the parents: \u201cWe do the devotions. We do the Scripture memory. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe do all of that,\u201d but the kids would have no idea that Mom and Dad really cared about them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s one of the reasons we try to arm the parent, when we wrote this book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. We try to arm them with, not only ways to do that, but there are prayer strategies in there. There are questions to ask to go to a deeper level. There are creative ideas and how to spend\u00a0 time with your kids, no matter their age\u2014how to engender, not only a close walk with you, but with the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe try to arm them with as much as possible, in this book, to, not only go through the 40 days of dares, with principles attached; but also, the back matter in this book is chock-full of appendices that we tried to give them to help that relationship and their love for the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do think one of the things that you do a good job of in the book is, not only anchoring every one of these 40 dares in the Scripture, but you are also very practical. You deal with issues around boundaries and other things that parents are facing today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut one of them that, if Barbara was here, she\u2019d be pounding the table about\u2014and it doesn\u2019t sound like it\u2019s very theological, but it really is\u2014and that\u2019s the love dare you give parents to teach their kids manners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, and it\u2019s absent in our culture! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> It is absent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that is why Barbara would pound the table. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, you know, what we\u2019re doing with our kids? We\u2019re teaching them manners. And this is, again, part of the love dare. One of our kids will serve the others at dinner; and then, they\u2019re supposed to respond a certain way. Then, later, a different one will clean up, afterwards. And they rotate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re teaching each of them, not only table manners, but how to give and receive service. You know, when you are serving other people\u2014that is an honor to do that. That\u2019s not necessarily the lowly position. How do you show gratefulness to someone who is serving you? Again, we are not legalistic about it; but it\u2019s something that they are going to carry through their entire life\u2014to show value for other people but, also, be willing to serve other people with the right heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> First Corinthians 13 says, \u201cLove is not rude.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat means you are not doing anything that would gross anyone out or be unpleasant for the people around you. So, it\u2019s really the Golden Rule played out in every-day behavior. So, teaching our kids: \u201cDo you like it when someone else is opening their mouths, while they have food in it, and breathing on you? No, you don\u2019t. Then, don\u2019t do that to them.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I\u2019m talking to my kids and teaching them, usually, the Golden Rule ends up coming out in the conversation because I ask: \u201cWhen you have children, one day\u2014if they speak to you with whiny and complaining tones, are you going to like that?\u201d\u2014\u201cNo, ma\u2019am \/ No, Sir.\u201d \u201cWell, then, you don\u2019t need to be doing that to us.\u201d So, love is going to cause us to want to not be rude to one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I recall, coming home from work one day, and Barbara had this article from a magazine that had been written by Elisabeth Elliot. Elisabeth was a guest, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, on a number of occasions and is one of our favorite people. Barbara loved to read anything that Elisabeth wrote. This particular article was about teaching your kids manners. She anchored it in Philippians 2 that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tat the heart of manners\u2014is giving my life for your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s showing that I respect you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Esteeming others is more important than yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re really not talking about how to raise little rule-keepers and Pharisees. We\u2019re talking about how to raise people, who are centered on others more than they\u2019re centered on themselves. And kids don\u2019t do that naturally. Grown-ups don\u2019t do that naturally; but that\u2019s what, at the heart of what the Gospel points us to; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Which is a godly attribute\u2014it is something that Jesus demonstrated to us and asked us to do. What did He say? \u201cLove God and love others.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Those are the two greatest commandments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And we all need spiritual wheel alignments\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014from time to time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to kind of get back on track and go: \u201cYou\u2019re right. We do need to think of others more highly than we think of ourselves and to give our lives for others.\u201d And our kids are going to\u2014they\u2019re going to catch this, as we teach them, but, also, as we model. Throughout your book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>, you\u2019re really using both methods of teaching\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tboth calling parents to model it\u2014but also encouraging parents to do it, and to say things, and to be kind to them\u2014to show them how to forgive, to teach them how to ask for forgiveness. And it\u2019s really why these 40 days, I think, could transform a lot of homes and a lot of parents\u2014whether you\u2019re a single-parent, an intact family, or a blended family\u2014I think you need this kind of spiritual guidance that\u2019s going to set you on the right journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you\u2019ve noticed the kids are wobbling a little bit\u2014you know because, when the wheels are out of alignment, that\u2019s what happens\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014wobbling. If your kids are wobbling or if you\u2019ve been wobbling, get an alignment. Get a copy of the book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order the book from us, online; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. So, online: FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d to get a copy of <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong> <br><br>When you\u2019re online, you might also check out the new resource from Barbara Rainey called \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d It takes the qualities of love from First Corinthians, Chapter 13, and turns them into an activity that families can do together, where you can learn and share what real love looks like, according to the Scriptures. Find out more about \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d\u2014Barbara Rainey\u2019s new resource\u2014when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or call if you have any questions\u20141-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019ve been talking about demonstrating love for our children today; but we also have to learn how we can more effectively express our love to one another in a marriage relationship. Dennis, you and your wife, Barbara, have written a book on that subject called <em>Rekindling the Romance<\/em>, with half of the book written for husbands and half of the book written for wives. You really address the romance robbers that can come into every marriage relationship, and you talk about how we can forge a stronger bond of love with our spouse.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re making this book available to all those who help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, this month, with a donation. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener-supported. It\u2019s folks, like you, who make it possible for us to continue this radio program\u2014for our website to be functioning, for the message of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> to be heard, all around the U.S. and all around the world, via the internet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who have helped support this program in the past. And if you can make a donation today, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a copy of <em>Rekindling the Romanc<\/em>e by Dennis and Barbara Rainey. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button you see there that says, \u201cI CARE.\u201d You can make an online donation. We\u2019ll send the book to you. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you make a donation over the phone, ask for a copy of the book on romance\u2014the book, <em>Rekindling the Romance<\/em>. Or you can mail a check and request the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAddress your envelope to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back again tomorrow. 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They point to their faith in Christ as the glue that bonds them together.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-02-04.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, February 4<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk today with Stephen and Alex Kendrick about how we cultivate a heart for God in our children\u2019s lives. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob, I\u2019ve got a question I want to ask our guests. They\u2019ve been on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> a number of times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They\u2019re pretty good buddies\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and we don\u2019t ask them real hard questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The movie stars\u2014you talking about the movie stars we\u2019ve got here? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Stephen and Alex Kendrick join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Hi, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> These guys have made movies\u2014<em>Fireproof<\/em>. They\u2019ve written books\u2014<em>The Love Dare<\/em>. They\u2019ve got a new one called <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. But the bio I\u2019ve got on you guys was\u2014you\u2019re brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you\u2014you know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You need the bio to know that? You didn\u2019t realize that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t\u2014but I looked at it; and I go, \u201cPastors, film makers, authors, and brothers.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> The miracle of God\u2019s salvation. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, we get along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are some moms\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s the answer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> And we get along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are some moms and dads, who are moving to the edge of their chairs as I ask this question: \u201cTell us your worst encounter, as brothers.\u201d You both have to think of one; then, just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got mine already. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Oh no! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I mean, tell me what\u2014because there are some parents, who need hope\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that their kids are going to grow up, and they\u2019re going to be brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We grew up fighting. I used to hide under Alex\u2019s bed and make fun of him and laugh at him because he would sneak in his room and lock the door. He didn\u2019t know anyone was in there. [Laughter] We did some pretty mean\/harsh things for one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Like? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, I remember when I was in high school. Alex was in college and was trying to impress all his college buddies. We were at a dinner. I started unpacking all the embarrassing memories of Alex, growing up, in front of his friends. They got a big laugh out of it. After that dinner, Alex pulled me off to the side. He said: \u201cI am trying to be a team player to you. I know the same things about you, Stephen, but I\u2019m not sharing them. I\u2019m trying to affirm you, as my brother.\u201d And he said: \u201cYou have to do the same thing for me. We have to be a team.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> And that has come-to-Jesus moment for me\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He took the high road\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, he did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and called you off the low road. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Well, I haven\u2019t always taken the high road; but no, there was one time\u2014one time\u2014and I was so furious. I made, when I was\u2014I don\u2019t remember if I was 18 or 19 years old\u2014I put the video camera\u2014pointed it at the couch, sat on the couch, and talked to my future teenage son. [Laughter] I did. And I was\u2014I thought I was being so wise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere I am, 18 years old, trying to teach my future 18-year-old son what I\u2019m thinking\u2014\u201cWhy I stayed away from drugs,\u201d or, \u201c\u2026this or that,\u201d or, \u201cI don\u2019t understand girls,\u201d\u2014you know, whatever it is\u2014had my heart broken. I thought that was\u2014well, Stephen found the video tape. So, he decided he needed to add to this video tape, without me knowing. So, he sits\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Post-production. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> \u2014He sits back on the couch\u2014puts the camera at him, after the video tape finished. Then, says: \u201cAnd now, as Alex\u2019s little brother, let me tell you the real deal,\u201d [Laughter] and adds other stuff. So, my kids still haven\u2019t seen this tape\u2014but anyway\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Someday\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> No, that didn\u2019t go over well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the whole world\u2014this needs to be on YouTube, guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think we need to put it on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for listeners. [Laughter] Who owns it? Who\u2019s got it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> It could be bad. It could be bad. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> No, I\u2019ll tell you a serious one\u2014a serious one\u2014and I\u2019ll be quick about it. We had finished <em>Fireproof<\/em>, and both of us were drained. I mean, we were just wiped-out. We were doing 16-hour days\u2014week, after week, after week, after week. We\u2019re trying to finish the edit\u2014work on the DVD features. We\u2019re working on <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. We\u2019re working with the our novelist on\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Curriculum. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> \u2014yes, curriculum\u2014and on the novel for <em>Fireproof<\/em>. I mean, we were just drained. I remember I was just tired. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This was a movie about marital conflict that you guys made. You\u2019d finished\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014it up. And what happened? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> So, yes, we\u2019re\u2014I\u2019m finishing up the edit. I was point-man on the movie. Stephen is point-man on the curriculum and on the book, <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. So, Stephen has more investment in <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. I have more investment in the movie. But we still work together. We were so tired, and I thought Stephen should\u2019ve been further along on the research for <em>The Love Dare<\/em>. I\u2019m tired of editing the movie. We got into an argument because I knew, as soon as the movie was done, \u201cWe have to finish <em>The Love Dare<\/em>,\u201d which is funny\u2014it\u2019s so ironic. We\u2019re <em>fighting<\/em> while we\u2019re finishing <em>The Love Dare<\/em>\u2014but anyway, but yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I was so tired. I was irritated at him. At the same time, I wasn\u2019t looking from the big perspective of how much Stephen had been adding to the movie and <em>The Love Dare<\/em>,which was a ton. I\u2019m just looking at my own hours invested in this thing. So, I yelled at him. I was like: \u201cYou have no sense of\u2014you don\u2019t have a clock in your head. We\u2019re supposed to turn this thing in at a certain time. It\u2019s due. We\u2019ve already blown past the due date.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, Stephen is producer for these films. He\u2019s handling all the extra things, outside of the edit room, that I don\u2019t have to worry about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> I\u2019m fighting all the battles outside the room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> So, I get mad and yelled at him. He\u2019s defending himself. We\u2019re going back and forth. That was the last big argument we had. So, several years ago\u2014but we, again\u2014made amends, apologize, all that kind of stuff\u2014but my point is this: We <em>both<\/em> have strengths, and we <em>both<\/em> have weaknesses. We work as a partnership\u2014especially, when we have accountability, outside of this brother partnership\u2014things go really well. But again, it\u2019s this process of dying to yourself and staying humble and realizing your need for other people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can\u2019t do everything yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, Stephen and my older brother, Shannon, are great brothers; but at the same time, that brotherly competition\/friction, every once in a while, pops up. You\u2019ve got to deal with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> The key, though, is our relationships with Christ\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> \u2014with all three of us. The Lord has transformed our hearts. He\u2019s given us a love for one another. We\u2019re all three in the Word. We\u2019re all three praying for each other\u2014and God is giving us, continually\u2014helps to be hard to offend and quick to forgive with each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and what\u2019s true for brothers is also true for husbands and wives and for moms and dads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you guys wrote <em>The Love Dare for Parents, <\/em>you\u2019re really calling husbands and wives and get on the same page together and to be proactive in making sure that the kids understand, in some very specific ways\u2014\u201cYou\u2019re loved. You\u2019re valued. You\u2019re appreciated,\u201d\u2014so that they grow up with a sense of God\u2019s love filtering through you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And really, we talk about\u2014parents want their children to be blessed; but Scripture communicates that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twhen parents fear the Lord\u2014that God will, then, bless their children. It says in \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPsalm 112\u2014when we\u2019re delighting in the Lord on a daily basis, when we\u2019re praying for our kids, and when we\u2019re walking with Jesus and modeling the Way\u2014we set up our kids to be blessed. So, it\u2019s easy for us, as parents, to say one thing; then, we don\u2019t model that in our own lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, in the book, we talk about walking intimately with God and letting Him be your satisfaction because, really, the Holy Spirit is the one who gives us love in our hearts. That love causes us to be patient, and kind, and not rude, and not jealous, and those things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Some of these dares are a dare to the parent to square away their relationship with God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> With Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Give us an illustration of one and kind of what the dare is\u2014the love dare for a parent who is raising a child or a whole family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We talk about parents finding their contentment and satisfaction in Christ rather than in their circumstances. You know, our kids can become\u2014if we\u2019re not careful, they can become an idol in our lives. They can become the whole center of our identity, as parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey are loved and welcomed members of the family; but Christ should always be where we go to\u2014as our refuge\u2014as our source for love, and joy, and peace. Those are the first three fruits of the Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Those only come from God. So, we talk about, in the book, learning to zero down, with the Lord, and learning to\u2014not only to surrender your life to Christ\u2014but walk with Him, intimately, on a daily basis because that\u2019s really the <em>key<\/em> to being the parent that your kids need. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> And what the enemy tries to do\u2014and he does this in every area of life\u2014he wants you at one extreme or the other. He does not want you well-balanced and stable. This is, again, true for marriage and everything. For children\u2014he wants you either to so idolize your children and invest in your children that you disregard other important things\u2014or he wants you so detached from your kids that they are like: \u201cYes, my parents don\u2019t even love me. I\u2019m always on the back burner,\u201d\u2014whatever. But he doesn\u2019t want you having that healthy balance of: \u201cGod is first, my spouse is second, and you are close behind that, as my children\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2018I love you. I treasure you. I\u2019m glad God gave you to me.\u2019\u201d They need to hear that from your mouth. But at the same time, they know they are not it\u2014they\u2019re not your number one priority. The Lord is number one; then, your spouse; then, the children. When the children see that, they will carry that on to their families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And practically-speaking, before we came in the studio, Stephen, you were talking about one of these love dares that you\u2019re spending some time with your kids\u2014right now, on\u2014is the fear of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How are you explaining that to your children, and how are you teaching it to them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> The fear of the Lord is when we take God very seriously. Scripture communicates that so many wonderful things happen when we fear the Lord. If you read\u2014just Psalm 34\u2014it talks about the angel of the Lord encamps around about those who fear the Lord\u2014that God satisfies those who fear the Lord. When we develop a holy, reverent respect for God\u2014where we are taking His Word seriously \/ we\u2019re taking our relationship with Him seriously\u2014it <em>blesses<\/em> every area of our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou read that in Proverbs. With our kids, we\u2014last year, we walked through \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPsalm 139 with them\u2014that: God always sees you, He\u2019s always watching you, you\u2019re accountable to Him, and He loves you. One day, you will stand before Him. If kids can develop a fear of the Lord, then, when they are not around their parents, they\u2019re still going to make good, wise decisions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you look at Joseph, he ran from Potiphar\u2019s wife because he said: \u201cGod sees me. God is watching me.\u201d So, the Bible says, \u201cThe fear of the Lord causes us to hate and depart from evil and to walk in truth and honesty.\u201d So, with our kids, we are teaching them that they\u2019re going to reap what they sow\u2014that God always sees them, He\u2019s always with them, and they are accountable to Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever read Jerry Bridges book about the joy of fearing God\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014but he talks about the difference between a slavish fear, which is not what we are talking about when we talk about fearing the Lord\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014but our holy fear of God. He uses the illustration of a private, who is attached as an aide to a Four-Star General. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he says: \u201cThey spend all the time together. They build a relationship, and they know one another. But the private always is aware of whom this General is\u2014what this General\u2019s authority is. He would never become so causal with the General as to call him by his first name. He would always have that respect because of the office of this General. Yet, they could have a warm, loving relationship.\u201d That\u2019s how our kids need to understand what\u2014that God\u2019s not like your buddy, who you just pal around with. No, He is God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, He is. He\u2019s holy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We need to understand His awesome transcendence and His holiness; but at the same time, He invites us to a deep relationship like the General and the private have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, and our respect for Him\u2014when we <em>greatly<\/em> respect God, our intimacy with Him actually goes deeper. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> If you think about that\u2014if you don\u2019t teach your children to respect you, as their parents, you\u2019re preparing them to disrespect all authority in the future, including the Lord. As we\u2019re developing a respect-training in our kids, we also balance that out with our love with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur intimacy with them goes deeper because of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You actually challenge and lead your children in memorizing Scripture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Rattle off a few of the Scriptures that you would point parents to so they can write them down, right now, to be able to teach to their kids to fear God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I\u2019ll give you one to start with\u2014it\u2019s Psalm 112. You mentioned it earlier\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014really, the first four or five verses: \u201cPraise the Lord. Blessed is the man who fears the Lord, who greatly delights in His commandments. His offspring will be mighty in the land. The generation of the upright will be blessed.\u201d Again, that\u2019s a generational impact that we have, as parents, by, first of all\u2014we fear God\u2014we walk in reverence of the General\u2014as Bob was talking about\u2014recognizing who He is, and we\u2019re passing on that fear to our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat are some other passages? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> We went through, like I said, Psalm 139.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a great passage to talk about God\u2019s intimacy in our lives. We memorized \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEphesians 6 with our kids. We just went through it. It took us a year with our children, but they learned respect and honor towards authority. Also, they learned the armor of God. They learned to be strong in the Lord and the power of His might; and they learned submission to authority, at the same time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, did you pick Ephesians 6 because of where it starts out [Laughter] because 6:1 is: \u201cChildren obey your parents, in the Lord,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor this is right\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That is the only command the New Testament gives to children is to honor and obey their parents; so, we needed to start there! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, Psalm 119:1-18. My son memorized\u2014Joshua\u2014about how a young man can keep his way pure. Then, Psalm 1\u2014talking about who you hang out with: \u201cBlessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the ungodly, or stand in the way of sinners.\u201d And so, my kids memorized all of Psalm 1; and that passage in Psalm 119; and, of course, several other ones. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut a funny one\u2014I\u2019ve got to say this real quick\u2014we memorized Proverbs 27:14. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen my kids were being loud in the morning\u2014and they were singing, trying to wake each other up\u2014and so, I said, \u201cI want you turn to Proverbs 27:14, which says, \u2018He that blesses his friend with a loud voice in the morning will be counted a curse to him.\u2019\u201d [Laughter] I said: \u201cIn other words, guys, in the morning, you don\u2019t just start screaming and yelling to wake everybody up unless you have to\u2014if it\u2019s an emergency. But go in there and wake them up when it\u2019s time to get up. Let\u2019s do breakfast and school work.\u201d So, they\u2019re like, \u201cWow!\u201d and they start laughing. So, they learned this verse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of our favorites, at the dinner table\u2014and I don\u2019t remember the address\u2014but there\u2019s a proverb that says, \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is the man who provokes his friend and then says,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> \u201cI was only joking.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI was only joking.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> That\u2019s it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, and we got that all the time, at our house. Kids would say something to one another and go: \u201cI was just kidding. I\u2019m just kidding.\u201d We\u2019d say, \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows\u2026.\u201d I mean, we tossed that around so often\u2014they could recite that one today if you went to them, as adults. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What we\u2019re talking about here is passing on the truth of God and, also, the experience of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And those are both absolutely essential. If you pass on the truth of God, without an experience of God, that becomes boxy; and there\u2019s no\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Legalistic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014Yes. It does. There\u2019s no joy because God loves us, and wants to relate to us, and wants us to experience Him on a daily basis. So, it\u2019s the truth of God and the experience of God that we, as parents, are passing on to the next generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you know, there are probably some parents who are listening and saying: \u201cOkay, you started off talking about \u201cHow can we express love to our kids?\u201d Then, we got off on Scripture memory. So, tie these two together for me. Having my kids memorize Scripture\u2014they don\u2019t go, \u2018I know Mom and Dad love me because they made me memorize Ephesians 6 last year.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Well, the source of love is God, Himself, and the Bible is the love letter\u2014ultimate love letter from God. When parents are teaching their kids truth\u2014you know, \u201cLove rejoices in the truth,\u201d\u2014it says in First Corinthians 13\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twell, they are not going to be able to do that unless they know what the truth is. So, it is so important that we have those parallel tracks\u2014that we are speaking the truth in love \/ that we are planting the truth of God\u2019s Word into that soil of a loving relationship with our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis was talking about relationship. Deuteronomy 6-8 communicates: \u201cWe are to love God with all our heart, mind, soul, strength. Then, we are to teach our children when we rise up, walk in the way, sit in our house, and go to bed at night. All the time, we are communicating: \u201cHere\u2019s how you love God. Here\u2019s how you walk with God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we do that, we are setting up our kids for ultimate success beyond anything that we could buy them possession-wise, any schooling or training that we could give them, any scholarship at college. If they\u2019ll love the Lord and fear the Lord, they are set up to do the will of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s got to be done with the right heart and right motivation, though. This has got to come from a mom and dad, where you really do want to bless your child and where you are not trying to build in legalism, because you\u2019ve seen the parents: \u201cWe do the devotions. We do the Scripture memory. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe do all of that,\u201d but the kids would have no idea that Mom and Dad really cared about them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s one of the reasons we try to arm the parent, when we wrote this book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. We try to arm them with, not only ways to do that, but there are prayer strategies in there. There are questions to ask to go to a deeper level. There are creative ideas and how to spend\u00a0 time with your kids, no matter their age\u2014how to engender, not only a close walk with you, but with the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe try to arm them with as much as possible, in this book, to, not only go through the 40 days of dares, with principles attached; but also, the back matter in this book is chock-full of appendices that we tried to give them to help that relationship and their love for the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do think one of the things that you do a good job of in the book is, not only anchoring every one of these 40 dares in the Scripture, but you are also very practical. You deal with issues around boundaries and other things that parents are facing today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut one of them that, if Barbara was here, she\u2019d be pounding the table about\u2014and it doesn\u2019t sound like it\u2019s very theological, but it really is\u2014and that\u2019s the love dare you give parents to teach their kids manners. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Yes, and it\u2019s absent in our culture! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> It is absent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that is why Barbara would pound the table. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Yes, you know, what we\u2019re doing with our kids? We\u2019re teaching them manners. And this is, again, part of the love dare. One of our kids will serve the others at dinner; and then, they\u2019re supposed to respond a certain way. Then, later, a different one will clean up, afterwards. And they rotate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re teaching each of them, not only table manners, but how to give and receive service. You know, when you are serving other people\u2014that is an honor to do that. That\u2019s not necessarily the lowly position. How do you show gratefulness to someone who is serving you? Again, we are not legalistic about it; but it\u2019s something that they are going to carry through their entire life\u2014to show value for other people but, also, be willing to serve other people with the right heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> First Corinthians 13 says, \u201cLove is not rude.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat means you are not doing anything that would gross anyone out or be unpleasant for the people around you. So, it\u2019s really the Golden Rule played out in every-day behavior. So, teaching our kids: \u201cDo you like it when someone else is opening their mouths, while they have food in it, and breathing on you? No, you don\u2019t. Then, don\u2019t do that to them.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I\u2019m talking to my kids and teaching them, usually, the Golden Rule ends up coming out in the conversation because I ask: \u201cWhen you have children, one day\u2014if they speak to you with whiny and complaining tones, are you going to like that?\u201d\u2014\u201cNo, ma\u2019am \/ No, Sir.\u201d \u201cWell, then, you don\u2019t need to be doing that to us.\u201d So, love is going to cause us to want to not be rude to one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I recall, coming home from work one day, and Barbara had this article from a magazine that had been written by Elisabeth Elliot. Elisabeth was a guest, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, on a number of occasions and is one of our favorite people. Barbara loved to read anything that Elisabeth wrote. This particular article was about teaching your kids manners. She anchored it in Philippians 2 that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tat the heart of manners\u2014is giving my life for your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s showing that I respect you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> Esteeming others is more important than yourself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re really not talking about how to raise little rule-keepers and Pharisees. We\u2019re talking about how to raise people, who are centered on others more than they\u2019re centered on themselves. And kids don\u2019t do that naturally. Grown-ups don\u2019t do that naturally; but that\u2019s what, at the heart of what the Gospel points us to; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Which is a godly attribute\u2014it is something that Jesus demonstrated to us and asked us to do. What did He say? \u201cLove God and love others.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Alex:<\/strong> Those are the two greatest commandments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And we all need spiritual wheel alignments\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014from time to time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stephen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to kind of get back on track and go: \u201cYou\u2019re right. We do need to think of others more highly than we think of ourselves and to give our lives for others.\u201d And our kids are going to\u2014they\u2019re going to catch this, as we teach them, but, also, as we model. Throughout your book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>, you\u2019re really using both methods of teaching\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tboth calling parents to model it\u2014but also encouraging parents to do it, and to say things, and to be kind to them\u2014to show them how to forgive, to teach them how to ask for forgiveness. And it\u2019s really why these 40 days, I think, could transform a lot of homes and a lot of parents\u2014whether you\u2019re a single-parent, an intact family, or a blended family\u2014I think you need this kind of spiritual guidance that\u2019s going to set you on the right journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you\u2019ve noticed the kids are wobbling a little bit\u2014you know because, when the wheels are out of alignment, that\u2019s what happens\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014wobbling. If your kids are wobbling or if you\u2019ve been wobbling, get an alignment. Get a copy of the book, <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order the book from us, online; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. So, online: FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d to get a copy of <em>The Love Dare for Parents<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong> <br><br>When you\u2019re online, you might also check out the new resource from Barbara Rainey called \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d It takes the qualities of love from First Corinthians, Chapter 13, and turns them into an activity that families can do together, where you can learn and share what real love looks like, according to the Scriptures. Find out more about \u201cHow Do I Love Thee?\u201d\u2014Barbara Rainey\u2019s new resource\u2014when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or call if you have any questions\u20141-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019ve been talking about demonstrating love for our children today; but we also have to learn how we can more effectively express our love to one another in a marriage relationship. Dennis, you and your wife, Barbara, have written a book on that subject called <em>Rekindling the Romance<\/em>, with half of the book written for husbands and half of the book written for wives. You really address the romance robbers that can come into every marriage relationship, and you talk about how we can forge a stronger bond of love with our spouse.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re making this book available to all those who help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, this month, with a donation. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener-supported. It\u2019s folks, like you, who make it possible for us to continue this radio program\u2014for our website to be functioning, for the message of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> to be heard, all around the U.S. and all around the world, via the internet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who have helped support this program in the past. And if you can make a donation today, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a copy of <em>Rekindling the Romanc<\/em>e by Dennis and Barbara Rainey. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button you see there that says, \u201cI CARE.\u201d You can make an online donation. We\u2019ll send the book to you. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you make a donation over the phone, ask for a copy of the book on romance\u2014the book, <em>Rekindling the Romance<\/em>. Or you can mail a check and request the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAddress your envelope to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back again tomorrow. We\u2019ll, once again, talk with Stephen and Alex Kendrick about what unconditional love looks like in a family\u2014the love between a parent and a child\u2014how do we express that our love is not conditional? We\u2019ll talk about that tomorrow. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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