{"id":302894,"date":"2014-01-02T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-01-02T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/getting-lost-in-christ\/"},"modified":"2014-01-02T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2014-01-02T17:00:00","slug":"getting-lost-in-christ","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-lost-in-christ\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting Lost in Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Author Dannah Gresh talks about our natural tendency to look for things other than God to fill us, and reminds us that those things, including relationships, can easily become idols if we&#8217;re not careful.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2014-01-02.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"27.21M","filesize_raw":"28528333","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2817,2822,2093],"tags":[4705,4213,5008],"podcast_series":[7989],"cwp_profile":[3154],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302894","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-choosing-a-spouse","category-growing-in-your-faith","category-women","tag-college","tag-love","tag-relationship","podcast_series-get-lost","cwp_profile-dannah-gresh","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302894\/getting-lost-in-christ","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302894\/getting-lost-in-christ","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"dG8MXF1cpO\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-lost-in-christ\/\">Getting Lost in Christ<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-lost-in-christ\/embed\/#?secret=dG8MXF1cpO\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Getting Lost in Christ&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"dG8MXF1cpO\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Dannah Gresh says there\u2019s a connection between relationships and worship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> As an introvert, I worship God in the quiet. The church really is an extroverted experience. The church, of old, respected the solitude\u2014it respected quiet. We don\u2019t really\u2014we like to fill the space.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, January 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How you worship really does impact your relationships at home. We\u2019re going to talk more about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it is interesting to be a part of a ministry that is involved with marriage and family. Our mission, here at FamilyLife, is to effectively develop godly marriages and families who change the world, one home at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We want to see every home become a godly home; yet, we\u2019ve talked, often, about the fact that marriage and family\u2014like anything else in life\u2014can be an idol. It can get in the way of your relationship with Jesus. When it does, it\u2019s not a good thing; is it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Marriage and family are meant to be a product of living rightly with God, and walking with Him, and applying what the Scriptures say. We\u2019ve got a guest with us today, Dannah Gresh, who has written a book that doesn\u2019t sound like it\u2019s on the same topic; but it is. She\u2019s written a book called <em>Get Lost<\/em>. It\u2019s about, really, finding God\u2014and losing yourself, in essence\u2014and finding Him and a right relationship with Him. Dannah\u2014welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s great to be back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> First of all, explain your premise of what the book\u2019s all about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s really about overcoming our tendencies to reach out for loves that aren\u2019t enough and to get lost in God\u2019s love. The way that I do it\u2014the process I use\u2014is by asking the reader to submit to ten days of feasting on God\u2019s love. That\u2019s what I call it\u2014The Love Feast\u2014just feasting on His Word \/ on worship. Feast on what is truly nourishing to our souls so that we can have these other things\u2014these other gifts from God\u2014in proper balance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Who was the woman you had in mind when you were writing this book? What is she dealing with?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, the women I wrote it for were my girls. I wanted them to learn through my wisdom. There are some things I hope my kids don\u2019t learn on the hot pavement of life. Obviously, there are lessons God has for them; but I wrote it for them. So, it\u2019s really for the 20-plus-year-old single woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat has shocked me is how many moms have read it before they\u2019ve given it to their daughters and said, \u201cAww, I have fallen in love with Jesus again! I forgot\u2014He\u2019s enough!\u201d And you know what\u2019s relieving to their husbands?\u2014\u00a0 is it\u2019s frustrating for a man to be in a relationship where\u2014if I\u2019ve tried to get from Bob what only God can give me\u2014he stands there in shell-shock, like: \u201cI don\u2019t know how to help you! I don\u2019t know what to give you! I don\u2019t know what to do for you!\u201d because I need something from God\u2014not from Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if a woman is finding her sense of identity\u2014sense of well-being\u2014in the attention of a young man, or the approval of her husband, or any number of things\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014this whole issue of ten days on this Love Feast that you\u2019re talking about is really to reprioritize and put Jesus back where He belongs in your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Where\u2019s the starting point for that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> You know, I think the starting point, for me, is Song of Solomon\u2014the very first chapter. The woman cries out, \u201cDraw me and I will run after you!\u201d The fact is\u2014so many times, we white-knuckle our relationship with God. We just think: \u201cI know I\u2019m <em>supposed<\/em> to do this. I know I\u2019m <em>supposed<\/em> to wake up and have devotions. I know I\u2019m <em>supposed<\/em> to put Him first. I know I\u2019m <em>supposed<\/em> to love Him.\u201d But we, in and of ourselves, don\u2019t naturally desire those things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s interesting, to me, that in the great love story of the Scriptures\u2014in Song of Songs\u2014we find the lover saying, \u201cWould you draw me?\u201d That\u2019s really where it started with me, when I was a young woman, and where I start the reader in this book. On Day One of The Love Feast, I say: \u201cThe first thing you have to do is just pray that prayer of: \u2018Lord, draw me.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is where we really start\u2014we get to talk about the Holy Spirit, which is such a controversial\u2014I don\u2019t know why\u2014but we\u2019re scared of that word. We all have different visions of how it works. What we can agree on is that He\u2019s alive and well. It is His purpose to train us, communicate to us, guide us, counsel us, and comfort our hearts. We have to be intimately acquainted with Him. I meet women\u2014all of the time\u2014who are afraid because they\u2019re afraid of: \u201cWell, this person, here, has got it this way,\u201d and, \u201cThis person seems to have all these bells and whistles.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI met this young woman, named Ashley, in my church, who knew God\u2014she was saved\u2014but she didn\u2019t know God\u2019s Spirit. She wasn\u2019t in relationship with Him. I just began to talk with her about the Holy Spirit. I said, \u201cEvery day when you wake up, just say, \u2018Holy Spirit, draw me.\u2019\u201d She went from a girl, who\u2014her countenance, at church, was one of darkness and sadness\u2014wanting to be there because she knew she should be there\u2014but not really getting anything out of it\u2014not loving it. It was just routine and mundane to her\u2014to\u2014several weeks after asking this: \u201cDraw me, Holy Spirit, and I will run after you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe came to church, one day, with a friend. We had watched her countenance begin to lighten up. We didn\u2019t know that this friend was a friend that didn\u2019t know the Lord. Not only did she bring her to introduce her to Jesus; but during the worship time, she knew exactly the moment she was to turn to this friend and invite her to have some prayer time with her. That friend came to know the Lord that night. When I approached Ashley that night, and said: \u201cYou know\u2014what happened here?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cI\u2019m just so full of God\u2019s Spirit\u2014it just kind of spills out of me now.\u201d That\u2019s the experience that many women, who have done the ten-day Love Feast, have written to me about. They\u2019re saying: \u201cIt just kind of spills out of me now. I don\u2019t have to force it. It\u2019s not routine. It\u2019s not what everybody\u2019s telling me to do. It\u2019s what God\u2019s Spirit is just welling up inside of me, and I have to do this\u2014whatever it is\u2014go on a missions trip, worship, pray with someone, wake up in the morning and have the first thing on your mind be Jesus. It just wells up out of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it just begins with, \u201cDraw me,\u201d\u2014just asking God to draw you closer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes. I think it\u2019s that simple.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I\u2019m thinking of two women, right now, who we might be speaking to. One woman, who\u2019s listening to what you\u2019re talking about and she\u2019s going, \u201cI\u2019m not sure I\u2019ve got a relationship with God.\u201d To that person\u2014she or, for that matter, he\u2014needs to understand the love of God and what He did for her, in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you were talking earlier, I thought of First John, Chapter 4, where it says, \u201cIn this is love, not that we have loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.\u201d He sent Christ to do, on our behalf, what we couldn\u2019t do for ourselves\u2014which is pay the price for all the wrongdoings we have done\u2014and to not only die for our sins but to defeat death\u2014come back from the grave\u2014and He is alive today. He can forgive a woman or a man for whatever they have done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you ask God to come near\u2014as you ask God to pursue you\u2014that may be the first step for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> For the other woman, who already knows God, you\u2019re speaking about the Holy Spirit. She has the Holy Spirit within her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He came to guide us into truth, to comfort us, to teach us, and to convict us. I think it\u2019s important for the woman, who wants to surrender to God\u2019s love, to understand His work in her soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> And I would say, too, that the Holy Spirit is a creative love. He comes to us, all, uniquely and differently. When He comes to me, two things tend to happen\u2014one is\u2014I cry, and it\u2019s not pretty. I\u2019m not a natural crier\u2014I\u2019m not a big crier; but when God\u2019s Spirit speaks to me, that\u2019s how He comes. The other way He speaks to me is just the written Word. I can hardly stand at church on Sunday mornings because I <em>love <\/em>to feast on the Word. His Spirit just comes alive in me in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou might be like me. He might just come to you in really normal regular ways, but I\u2019m so sure that He comes. I am so sure that He\u2019s there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You talk about worship being one of the things that draws you into this deeper love relationship with Jesus. Are you talking about singing hymns in the car? What are you talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, I think, there again, the Holy Spirit works in us all so differently. For me, music is a big part of that; and I think it helps. For my husband, jumping on the tractor and being out in the field with God is a much bigger worship experience for him\u2014being alone, out there, with God. I think we have to stop putting each other in worship boxes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe critical thing is that our heart is set on Him and that, in that worship, He inhabits it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt says in the Bible that He \u201cinhabits the praise of His people.\u201d He comes into that place. So, when we\u2019re intentional about worshipping\u2014whether it\u2019s jumping on a tractor and being in a field with God or whether it\u2019s turning on our iPod and listening to music in the morning\u2014He comes, and He fills us. He fills us for the day.<br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I want all three of us to answer this question because I don\u2019t think you can put this in a box. All of us have unique ways of worshiping God. What, for you, creates worship? Bob, how would you answer that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Honestly, for me\u2014if I\u2019m reading about the character of God, if I\u2019m studying theology and understanding God better\u2014that\u2019s what draws me to worship. Our friend, Wayne Grudem, in his <em>Systematic Theology<\/em>, wisely put a hymn text at the end of every chapter\u2014with the idea that, after you read this chapter on theology, the right response is to sing praise to God. I think he\u2019s pretty right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Dannah, what about you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Solitude\u2014just quiet. I\u2019m just coming into the realization, as a very strong introvert, that that\u2019s okay\u2014that I need that. I always felt like that was weak. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo all the introverts out there, listening\u2014the church really is an extroverted experience. The church, of old, respected the solitude; and it respected quiet. We don\u2019t really\u2014we like to fill the space. We like to: \u201cTurn to the person next to you and say, \u2018Hello,\u2019 and shake hands, and give a hug.\u201d As an introvert, I do love that in my church because I love the people in my church; but, as an introvert, I worship God in the quiet. I feel Him very actively alive and well in my spirit when I can just get 20, or 30, or 40 minutes, or an hour alone with Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I\u2019m listening to you, I think, \u201cWhat\u2019s your definition of an introvert?\u201d because I don\u2019t think of you as being\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, you know, I\u2019m reading this wonderful book called <em>Quiet <\/em>right now. New research really indicates that introversion isn\u2019t necessarily about whether you like or don\u2019t like people so much as it is how much stimulation you\u2019re able to handle around us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> My husband\u2019s a man who loves a lot of stimulation all around him. He likes crazy stuff going on. I like quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, that\u2019s interesting. I\u2019m an extrovert; but I, increasingly, like the solitude. Just give me my chair\u2014and I\u2019ve got a book I\u2019ve been reading through for a long time\u2014 it\u2019s Moody\u2019s sermons\u2014and I\u2019ve got my Scriptures that I read there. I just enjoy the quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Nothing\u2014just allowing God to speak and being able to pray. Like you, Bob, the character of God brings about worship in my spirit. I need that. I think, also, at points, for worship\u2014I think we have to draw together with the body of Christ. I think we need to get together with other believers\u2014sing those hymns together, participate in the Lord\u2019s Supper, be reminded of our redemption, and hearing stories of other people\u2019s salvation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think we need that in our soul. That brings worship to me. In fact, one of the most worshipful things, for me, is to be able to see a baptism and to hear the stories. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes, beautiful!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It really is spectacular. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, Dannah, you mentioned that one of the things that draws you closer to God and returns the preeminence of God is when you get a right perspective on yourself\u2014when you see yourself accurately, based on what He says is true about you, rather than the lies you, sometimes, believe about yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Getting lost in His eyes so that you can see what He sees. That\u2019s not easy. You know what? I\u2019m going to go out on a limb and say it\u2019s harder for girls than it is for guys. There\u2019s something in us\u2014when we were created in the image of God, part of what we were to portray is the beauty of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen women struggle with beauty and believing that they\u2019re beautiful, that it\u2019s not just about what we see in the mirror. It\u2019s very clearly a fist fight between our Maker\u2014the Master artist who created each one of us\u2014and Satan just does not like seeing us embrace the beauty that God has created in us. That\u2019s one of the areas I write about in here because it is one of the hardest areas, for women, to be confident in and to see themselves in His eyes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I read an article, years ago, where a number of well-paid supermodels were asked to do a self-evaluation of their own physical appearance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> These are women who are paid millions of dollars a year to be on the covers of magazines because they are the standard of beauty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Most of these women gave themselves a \u201cseven\u201d on a ten-point scale\u2014and could point out to you all of the things that were wrong with them, in terms of their body-image.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you think it\u2019s endemic in every woman that she looks at herself and sees the flaws?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> She certainly seems to\u2014she certainly seems to have a proclivity toward believing the lies, too, because Eve, at the base of the tree, was the first one to believe what the serpent said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> That could probably be a big theological debate; but in <em>Lies Young Women Believe<\/em>, Nancy Leigh DeMoss and I said we think women probably are more prone to believe lies than men are\u2014and especially, in this area of seeing themselves as valuable, as beautiful, and as having worth. It was a struggle, for me\u2014it was a struggle, for me, for two reasons\u2014one\u2014because I had sinned when I was a teenager. I <em>felt<\/em> like\u2014I don\u2019t believe it was true\u2014but I <em>felt<\/em> like I was surrounded by picture-perfect Christians, who never had done anything wrong\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twho had never thought the thoughts that were in my head\u2014whose hands had never done the things my hands had done\u2014whose mouth had never spoken the words mine had spoken. Certainly, none of the believers in my church had done those things. So I just felt sinful and dirty\u2014like the sinful woman in Luke 7.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut also, because what we don\u2019t understand, as women, is that our beauty does not come from what we do or don\u2019t do\u2014it doesn\u2019t come from what\u2019s on the outside. The Bible says our true beauty comes from what\u2019s inside. What happened to me, in college, is\u2014I began to get lost\u2014during those ten months of not being with a guy\u2014but just being with God. I got into His Word. I got into His Word because I was desperate to be healed of the hurt and the emptiness in me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just realized one day that I was looking in the mirror, and I hadn\u2019t for years. The only conclusion I could come to\u2014I didn\u2019t look in the mirror and say: \u201cWow, Dannah! You are a babe!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, it wasn\u2019t like that. It\u2019s just that I was looking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You weren\u2019t turning your head away.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> I wasn\u2019t turning my head away. I wasn\u2019t self-loathing, and hiding, and going into my dorm room in tears. The only difference was that my heart was washed in the Word of God every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One of the things I wanted you to comment on\u2014you did a survey. I don\u2019t even want to ask the question. I want you to explain it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, one of the things that I have studied, in great detail, is a woman\u2019s perception of her beauty; especially, as it relates to relationships and sexuality. One of the studies that I saw done on the Penn State University campus was that college girls\u2014who had their first sexual encounter during school, as unmarried young women, immediately\u2014within the 24 hours following it\u2014had a lower positive image of themselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey hated what they saw in the mirror the day after sex. I thought to myself: \u201cThat\u2019s interesting because\u2014what I know of the chemicals of sex\u2014that a woman should feel phenomenal the next day\u2014the chemicals of oxytocin, serotonin\u2014and for men, vasopressin. All of these chemicals that wash over you during the act of sex make you feel confident, at peace, and should make you feel absolutely beautiful.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo what\u2019s happening, outside of marriage, is in complete contradiction of how God designed sex to work. I knew that to be true. So, I went looking for: \u201cWhat happens in a married woman\u2019s life when she\u2019s intimate with her husband? Does she feel better the next day?\u201d I couldn\u2019t find anything. So, I sent out this Survey Monkey<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. I have to say: \u201cIt\u2019s not scientifically accurate. It\u2019s just a trend. I\u2019m looking for a trend.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and we need to explain what Survey Monkey is. It\u2019s an online, inexpensive way to be able to find out what people think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Right. So, I sent out to over 100 of my friends. Now, these were all friends, who I knew to be in a phenomenal relationship with God. I also knew them to be in a marriage relationship that was thriving, in terms of being a picture of God\u2019s love. I just asked them, \u201cHow did you feel about your bodies and your beauty before you were married?\u201d Of course, they struggled\u2014many of them struggled. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhat about after you married and you were in this relationship?\u201d Through the roof, 100 percent of these women, almost, said, \u201cI feel great about myself.\u201d And, \u201cHow do you feel the day after sex?\u201d \u201cI feel really great about myself.\u201d So what you\u2019re seeing there is the relationship\u2014the craving\u2014being acted out in college\u2014it is not enough. In fact, it has a negative effect on the woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, inside of a thriving, God-filled marriage, it fills them up and they\u2019re satisfied. One of the surveys\u2014that I always go back to\u2014is scientifically-accurate, out of the University of Illinois, at Chicago. They found that the most sexually-satisfied women are religiously-active women; specifically, Protestant women. Here\u2019s the thing\u2014it\u2019s not really about the relationship between the man and the woman. This survey is indicative of the fact that the woman is already satisfied\u2014that God is enough\u2014that her spirit already has what it needs. So, when she receives the gift of a physical love relationship\u2014of a marriage-love relationship\u2014it\u2019s just a bonus. It\u2019s just more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve just exhorted all of us to seek God and pursue Him. That does make for a much better marriage \/ family. It doesn\u2019t mean life will be perfect. It doesn\u2019t mean that his flaws \/ her flaws are going to go away\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tbut it does mean you will be linked up with the One who understands, and who knows you, and can help you know how to handle life\u2019s ups and downs. I think that\u2019s really important today. We need encouragement. I think you\u2019ve provided that encouragement.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It puts life in alignment because life was meant to be lived, first, vertically\u2014your relationship with God. When that is what it\u2019s supposed to be, then everything flows out of that the way it\u2019s supposed to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, Bob, that\u2019s what the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> does\u2014our marriage getaways\u2014that we have all across the country. Yes, it is a marriage conference to talk about how you relate to your spouse; but it is first-focused on how you relate, rightly, to God\u2014understanding His purposes for marriage. It\u2019s why all married folks really ought to, once a year, get away and invest in their marriage. Certainly, if not at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>, something else that does fuel it, in terms of your spiritual depth and intimacy with God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can find out more about the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> when you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, you and I are going to be together at an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> in Hershey, Pennsylvania, on Valentine\u2019s night. I mean, how much better can you get than that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hershey, Pennsylvania\u2014on Valentine\u2019s night\u2014with Dennis and me and our wives. Our friend, Dave Wilson, the chaplain of the Detroit Lions, is going to be there, as well, with his wife Ann. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about the Hershey <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> or about any of the upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways happening in 2014. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cWeekend to Remember\u201d, to find out where there\u2019s an event happening near you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019d like information about the book that Dannah Gresh has written about the priority of our walk with God and how that orders all the other relationships in our lives, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order Dannah\u2019s book, <em>Get Lost<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can request a copy of the book, as well. Again, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, toll-free, at 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to take a minute and again say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who are regular listeners\u2014who, during the month of December, made a year-end contribution to help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> It really is humbling for us to stop and think that there are listeners, like you, who tune in every day and who spend time with us. We think through about what God\u2019s Word has to say about relationships together. It\u2019s meaningful enough to you that you would make a donation, at the end of the year, to help support this program and keep it on your local station. We do appreciate that. We want to say, \u201cThanks for that year-end support.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe mail is still coming in. So, we\u2019re still waiting to have a final number, in terms of how we finished out the year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for praying for us. Again, thanks for your financial support. We\u2019ll keep you posted on how things ended up in 2013. We\u2019re looking forward to a great 2014 together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back again with us tomorrow. Dannah Gresh is going to be with us again. We\u2019ll talk more about how our relationship with God is foundational to every other relationship in our lives. 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Dannah Gresh says there\u2019s a connection between relationships and worship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> As an introvert, I worship God in the quiet. The church really is an extroverted experience. The church, of old, respected the solitude\u2014it respected quiet. We don\u2019t really\u2014we like to fill the space.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, January 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How you worship really does impact your relationships at home. We\u2019re going to talk more about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it is interesting to be a part of a ministry that is involved with marriage and family. 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It\u2019s about, really, finding God\u2014and losing yourself, in essence\u2014and finding Him and a right relationship with Him. Dannah\u2014welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s great to be back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> First of all, explain your premise of what the book\u2019s all about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s really about overcoming our tendencies to reach out for loves that aren\u2019t enough and to get lost in God\u2019s love. The way that I do it\u2014the process I use\u2014is by asking the reader to submit to ten days of feasting on God\u2019s love. That\u2019s what I call it\u2014The Love Feast\u2014just feasting on His Word \/ on worship. Feast on what is truly nourishing to our souls so that we can have these other things\u2014these other gifts from God\u2014in proper balance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Who was the woman you had in mind when you were writing this book? What is she dealing with?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, the women I wrote it for were my girls. I wanted them to learn through my wisdom. There are some things I hope my kids don\u2019t learn on the hot pavement of life. Obviously, there are lessons God has for them; but I wrote it for them. So, it\u2019s really for the 20-plus-year-old single woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat has shocked me is how many moms have read it before they\u2019ve given it to their daughters and said, \u201cAww, I have fallen in love with Jesus again! I forgot\u2014He\u2019s enough!\u201d And you know what\u2019s relieving to their husbands?\u2014\u00a0 is it\u2019s frustrating for a man to be in a relationship where\u2014if I\u2019ve tried to get from Bob what only God can give me\u2014he stands there in shell-shock, like: \u201cI don\u2019t know how to help you! I don\u2019t know what to give you! 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On Day One of The Love Feast, I say: \u201cThe first thing you have to do is just pray that prayer of: \u2018Lord, draw me.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is where we really start\u2014we get to talk about the Holy Spirit, which is such a controversial\u2014I don\u2019t know why\u2014but we\u2019re scared of that word. We all have different visions of how it works. What we can agree on is that He\u2019s alive and well. It is His purpose to train us, communicate to us, guide us, counsel us, and comfort our hearts. We have to be intimately acquainted with Him. I meet women\u2014all of the time\u2014who are afraid because they\u2019re afraid of: \u201cWell, this person, here, has got it this way,\u201d and, \u201cThis person seems to have all these bells and whistles.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI met this young woman, named Ashley, in my church, who knew God\u2014she was saved\u2014but she didn\u2019t know God\u2019s Spirit. She wasn\u2019t in relationship with Him. I just began to talk with her about the Holy Spirit. I said, \u201cEvery day when you wake up, just say, \u2018Holy Spirit, draw me.\u2019\u201d She went from a girl, who\u2014her countenance, at church, was one of darkness and sadness\u2014wanting to be there because she knew she should be there\u2014but not really getting anything out of it\u2014not loving it. It was just routine and mundane to her\u2014to\u2014several weeks after asking this: \u201cDraw me, Holy Spirit, and I will run after you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe came to church, one day, with a friend. We had watched her countenance begin to lighten up. We didn\u2019t know that this friend was a friend that didn\u2019t know the Lord. Not only did she bring her to introduce her to Jesus; but during the worship time, she knew exactly the moment she was to turn to this friend and invite her to have some prayer time with her. That friend came to know the Lord that night. When I approached Ashley that night, and said: \u201cYou know\u2014what happened here?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cI\u2019m just so full of God\u2019s Spirit\u2014it just kind of spills out of me now.\u201d That\u2019s the experience that many women, who have done the ten-day Love Feast, have written to me about. They\u2019re saying: \u201cIt just kind of spills out of me now. I don\u2019t have to force it. It\u2019s not routine. It\u2019s not what everybody\u2019s telling me to do. It\u2019s what God\u2019s Spirit is just welling up inside of me, and I have to do this\u2014whatever it is\u2014go on a missions trip, worship, pray with someone, wake up in the morning and have the first thing on your mind be Jesus. It just wells up out of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it just begins with, \u201cDraw me,\u201d\u2014just asking God to draw you closer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes. I think it\u2019s that simple.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I\u2019m thinking of two women, right now, who we might be speaking to. One woman, who\u2019s listening to what you\u2019re talking about and she\u2019s going, \u201cI\u2019m not sure I\u2019ve got a relationship with God.\u201d To that person\u2014she or, for that matter, he\u2014needs to understand the love of God and what He did for her, in Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you were talking earlier, I thought of First John, Chapter 4, where it says, \u201cIn this is love, not that we have loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.\u201d He sent Christ to do, on our behalf, what we couldn\u2019t do for ourselves\u2014which is pay the price for all the wrongdoings we have done\u2014and to not only die for our sins but to defeat death\u2014come back from the grave\u2014and He is alive today. He can forgive a woman or a man for whatever they have done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you ask God to come near\u2014as you ask God to pursue you\u2014that may be the first step for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> For the other woman, who already knows God, you\u2019re speaking about the Holy Spirit. She has the Holy Spirit within her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He came to guide us into truth, to comfort us, to teach us, and to convict us. I think it\u2019s important for the woman, who wants to surrender to God\u2019s love, to understand His work in her soul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> And I would say, too, that the Holy Spirit is a creative love. He comes to us, all, uniquely and differently. When He comes to me, two things tend to happen\u2014one is\u2014I cry, and it\u2019s not pretty. I\u2019m not a natural crier\u2014I\u2019m not a big crier; but when God\u2019s Spirit speaks to me, that\u2019s how He comes. The other way He speaks to me is just the written Word. I can hardly stand at church on Sunday mornings because I <em>love <\/em>to feast on the Word. His Spirit just comes alive in me in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou might be like me. He might just come to you in really normal regular ways, but I\u2019m so sure that He comes. I am so sure that He\u2019s there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You talk about worship being one of the things that draws you into this deeper love relationship with Jesus. Are you talking about singing hymns in the car? What are you talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, I think, there again, the Holy Spirit works in us all so differently. For me, music is a big part of that; and I think it helps. For my husband, jumping on the tractor and being out in the field with God is a much bigger worship experience for him\u2014being alone, out there, with God. I think we have to stop putting each other in worship boxes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe critical thing is that our heart is set on Him and that, in that worship, He inhabits it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt says in the Bible that He \u201cinhabits the praise of His people.\u201d He comes into that place. So, when we\u2019re intentional about worshipping\u2014whether it\u2019s jumping on a tractor and being in a field with God or whether it\u2019s turning on our iPod and listening to music in the morning\u2014He comes, and He fills us. He fills us for the day.<br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I want all three of us to answer this question because I don\u2019t think you can put this in a box. All of us have unique ways of worshiping God. What, for you, creates worship? Bob, how would you answer that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Honestly, for me\u2014if I\u2019m reading about the character of God, if I\u2019m studying theology and understanding God better\u2014that\u2019s what draws me to worship. Our friend, Wayne Grudem, in his <em>Systematic Theology<\/em>, wisely put a hymn text at the end of every chapter\u2014with the idea that, after you read this chapter on theology, the right response is to sing praise to God. I think he\u2019s pretty right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Dannah, what about you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Solitude\u2014just quiet. I\u2019m just coming into the realization, as a very strong introvert, that that\u2019s okay\u2014that I need that. I always felt like that was weak. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo all the introverts out there, listening\u2014the church really is an extroverted experience. The church, of old, respected the solitude; and it respected quiet. We don\u2019t really\u2014we like to fill the space. We like to: \u201cTurn to the person next to you and say, \u2018Hello,\u2019 and shake hands, and give a hug.\u201d As an introvert, I do love that in my church because I love the people in my church; but, as an introvert, I worship God in the quiet. I feel Him very actively alive and well in my spirit when I can just get 20, or 30, or 40 minutes, or an hour alone with Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I\u2019m listening to you, I think, \u201cWhat\u2019s your definition of an introvert?\u201d because I don\u2019t think of you as being\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, you know, I\u2019m reading this wonderful book called <em>Quiet <\/em>right now. New research really indicates that introversion isn\u2019t necessarily about whether you like or don\u2019t like people so much as it is how much stimulation you\u2019re able to handle around us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> My husband\u2019s a man who loves a lot of stimulation all around him. He likes crazy stuff going on. I like quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, that\u2019s interesting. I\u2019m an extrovert; but I, increasingly, like the solitude. Just give me my chair\u2014and I\u2019ve got a book I\u2019ve been reading through for a long time\u2014 it\u2019s Moody\u2019s sermons\u2014and I\u2019ve got my Scriptures that I read there. I just enjoy the quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Nothing\u2014just allowing God to speak and being able to pray. Like you, Bob, the character of God brings about worship in my spirit. I need that. I think, also, at points, for worship\u2014I think we have to draw together with the body of Christ. I think we need to get together with other believers\u2014sing those hymns together, participate in the Lord\u2019s Supper, be reminded of our redemption, and hearing stories of other people\u2019s salvation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think we need that in our soul. That brings worship to me. In fact, one of the most worshipful things, for me, is to be able to see a baptism and to hear the stories. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes, beautiful!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It really is spectacular. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, Dannah, you mentioned that one of the things that draws you closer to God and returns the preeminence of God is when you get a right perspective on yourself\u2014when you see yourself accurately, based on what He says is true about you, rather than the lies you, sometimes, believe about yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Getting lost in His eyes so that you can see what He sees. That\u2019s not easy. You know what? I\u2019m going to go out on a limb and say it\u2019s harder for girls than it is for guys. There\u2019s something in us\u2014when we were created in the image of God, part of what we were to portray is the beauty of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen women struggle with beauty and believing that they\u2019re beautiful, that it\u2019s not just about what we see in the mirror. It\u2019s very clearly a fist fight between our Maker\u2014the Master artist who created each one of us\u2014and Satan just does not like seeing us embrace the beauty that God has created in us. That\u2019s one of the areas I write about in here because it is one of the hardest areas, for women, to be confident in and to see themselves in His eyes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I read an article, years ago, where a number of well-paid supermodels were asked to do a self-evaluation of their own physical appearance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> These are women who are paid millions of dollars a year to be on the covers of magazines because they are the standard of beauty.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Most of these women gave themselves a \u201cseven\u201d on a ten-point scale\u2014and could point out to you all of the things that were wrong with them, in terms of their body-image.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you think it\u2019s endemic in every woman that she looks at herself and sees the flaws?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> She certainly seems to\u2014she certainly seems to have a proclivity toward believing the lies, too, because Eve, at the base of the tree, was the first one to believe what the serpent said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> That could probably be a big theological debate; but in <em>Lies Young Women Believe<\/em>, Nancy Leigh DeMoss and I said we think women probably are more prone to believe lies than men are\u2014and especially, in this area of seeing themselves as valuable, as beautiful, and as having worth. It was a struggle, for me\u2014it was a struggle, for me, for two reasons\u2014one\u2014because I had sinned when I was a teenager. I <em>felt<\/em> like\u2014I don\u2019t believe it was true\u2014but I <em>felt<\/em> like I was surrounded by picture-perfect Christians, who never had done anything wrong\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\twho had never thought the thoughts that were in my head\u2014whose hands had never done the things my hands had done\u2014whose mouth had never spoken the words mine had spoken. Certainly, none of the believers in my church had done those things. So I just felt sinful and dirty\u2014like the sinful woman in Luke 7.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut also, because what we don\u2019t understand, as women, is that our beauty does not come from what we do or don\u2019t do\u2014it doesn\u2019t come from what\u2019s on the outside. The Bible says our true beauty comes from what\u2019s inside. What happened to me, in college, is\u2014I began to get lost\u2014during those ten months of not being with a guy\u2014but just being with God. I got into His Word. I got into His Word because I was desperate to be healed of the hurt and the emptiness in me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just realized one day that I was looking in the mirror, and I hadn\u2019t for years. The only conclusion I could come to\u2014I didn\u2019t look in the mirror and say: \u201cWow, Dannah! You are a babe!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, it wasn\u2019t like that. It\u2019s just that I was looking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You weren\u2019t turning your head away.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> I wasn\u2019t turning my head away. I wasn\u2019t self-loathing, and hiding, and going into my dorm room in tears. The only difference was that my heart was washed in the Word of God every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One of the things I wanted you to comment on\u2014you did a survey. I don\u2019t even want to ask the question. I want you to explain it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Well, one of the things that I have studied, in great detail, is a woman\u2019s perception of her beauty; especially, as it relates to relationships and sexuality. One of the studies that I saw done on the Penn State University campus was that college girls\u2014who had their first sexual encounter during school, as unmarried young women, immediately\u2014within the 24 hours following it\u2014had a lower positive image of themselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey hated what they saw in the mirror the day after sex. I thought to myself: \u201cThat\u2019s interesting because\u2014what I know of the chemicals of sex\u2014that a woman should feel phenomenal the next day\u2014the chemicals of oxytocin, serotonin\u2014and for men, vasopressin. All of these chemicals that wash over you during the act of sex make you feel confident, at peace, and should make you feel absolutely beautiful.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo what\u2019s happening, outside of marriage, is in complete contradiction of how God designed sex to work. I knew that to be true. So, I went looking for: \u201cWhat happens in a married woman\u2019s life when she\u2019s intimate with her husband? Does she feel better the next day?\u201d I couldn\u2019t find anything. So, I sent out this Survey Monkey<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. I have to say: \u201cIt\u2019s not scientifically accurate. It\u2019s just a trend. I\u2019m looking for a trend.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and we need to explain what Survey Monkey is. It\u2019s an online, inexpensive way to be able to find out what people think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dannah:<\/strong> Right. So, I sent out to over 100 of my friends. Now, these were all friends, who I knew to be in a phenomenal relationship with God. I also knew them to be in a marriage relationship that was thriving, in terms of being a picture of God\u2019s love. I just asked them, \u201cHow did you feel about your bodies and your beauty before you were married?\u201d Of course, they struggled\u2014many of them struggled. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhat about after you married and you were in this relationship?\u201d Through the roof, 100 percent of these women, almost, said, \u201cI feel great about myself.\u201d And, \u201cHow do you feel the day after sex?\u201d \u201cI feel really great about myself.\u201d So what you\u2019re seeing there is the relationship\u2014the craving\u2014being acted out in college\u2014it is not enough. In fact, it has a negative effect on the woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, inside of a thriving, God-filled marriage, it fills them up and they\u2019re satisfied. One of the surveys\u2014that I always go back to\u2014is scientifically-accurate, out of the University of Illinois, at Chicago. They found that the most sexually-satisfied women are religiously-active women; specifically, Protestant women. Here\u2019s the thing\u2014it\u2019s not really about the relationship between the man and the woman. This survey is indicative of the fact that the woman is already satisfied\u2014that God is enough\u2014that her spirit already has what it needs. So, when she receives the gift of a physical love relationship\u2014of a marriage-love relationship\u2014it\u2019s just a bonus. It\u2019s just more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve just exhorted all of us to seek God and pursue Him. That does make for a much better marriage \/ family. It doesn\u2019t mean life will be perfect. It doesn\u2019t mean that his flaws \/ her flaws are going to go away\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tbut it does mean you will be linked up with the One who understands, and who knows you, and can help you know how to handle life\u2019s ups and downs. I think that\u2019s really important today. We need encouragement. I think you\u2019ve provided that encouragement.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It puts life in alignment because life was meant to be lived, first, vertically\u2014your relationship with God. When that is what it\u2019s supposed to be, then everything flows out of that the way it\u2019s supposed to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, Bob, that\u2019s what the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> does\u2014our marriage getaways\u2014that we have all across the country. Yes, it is a marriage conference to talk about how you relate to your spouse; but it is first-focused on how you relate, rightly, to God\u2014understanding His purposes for marriage. It\u2019s why all married folks really ought to, once a year, get away and invest in their marriage. Certainly, if not at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>, something else that does fuel it, in terms of your spiritual depth and intimacy with God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can find out more about the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> when you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, you and I are going to be together at an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> in Hershey, Pennsylvania, on Valentine\u2019s night. I mean, how much better can you get than that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hershey, Pennsylvania\u2014on Valentine\u2019s night\u2014with Dennis and me and our wives. Our friend, Dave Wilson, the chaplain of the Detroit Lions, is going to be there, as well, with his wife Ann. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about the Hershey <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> or about any of the upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways happening in 2014. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link that says, \u201cWeekend to Remember\u201d, to find out where there\u2019s an event happening near you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019d like information about the book that Dannah Gresh has written about the priority of our walk with God and how that orders all the other relationships in our lives, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order Dannah\u2019s book, <em>Get Lost<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can request a copy of the book, as well. Again, the website: FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, toll-free, at 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to take a minute and again say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who are regular listeners\u2014who, during the month of December, made a year-end contribution to help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> It really is humbling for us to stop and think that there are listeners, like you, who tune in every day and who spend time with us. We think through about what God\u2019s Word has to say about relationships together. It\u2019s meaningful enough to you that you would make a donation, at the end of the year, to help support this program and keep it on your local station. We do appreciate that. We want to say, \u201cThanks for that year-end support.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe mail is still coming in. So, we\u2019re still waiting to have a final number, in terms of how we finished out the year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for praying for us. Again, thanks for your financial support. We\u2019ll keep you posted on how things ended up in 2013. We\u2019re looking forward to a great 2014 together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back again with us tomorrow. Dannah Gresh is going to be with us again. We\u2019ll talk more about how our relationship with God is foundational to every other relationship in our lives. 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