{"id":302854,"date":"2013-10-28T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-10-28T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/gathered-round\/"},"modified":"2013-10-28T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-10-28T15:00:00","slug":"gathered-round","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/gathered-round\/","title":{"rendered":"Gathered &#8216;Round"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Barbara Rainey recalls the moment in her mothering when she realized that her children must be her priority.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-10-28.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"21.75M","filesize_raw":"22811209","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2823],"tags":[2639],"podcast_series":[7979],"cwp_profile":[3052],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302854","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-thanksgiving","tag-sharing-your-faith","podcast_series-marking-memorable-moments","cwp_profile-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302854\/gathered-round","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302854\/gathered-round","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"v6i3QXEl42\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/gathered-round\/\">Gathered &#8216;Round<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/gathered-round\/embed\/#?secret=v6i3QXEl42\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Gathered &#8216;Round&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"v6i3QXEl42\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Barbara Rainey thinks it\u2019s important for families to stop and celebrate the work of God in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think in the busyness of modern-day life\u2014with lessons, and practices, and school, and everything else\u2014I think it\u2019s so easy to overlook those moments that we, as moms and dads, need to celebrate. When our kids make a really good decision, sometimes, we just pat them on the head and say, \u201cWay to go;\u201d and then we\u2019re off\u2014when it really should be celebrated, significantly, so that\u2014that good decision that our son or our daughter made\u2014that\u2019s reinforced in a way that he goes: \u201cOh! I want to do that again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> forMonday, October 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. When was the last time there was some celebrating around your house? We\u2019re going to talk today about how you can engineer a little celebrating in the weeks to come. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think we ought to tell our listeners what your wife has been up to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I agree with you. Let\u2019s introduce her. Barbara joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. She\u2019s been on the broadcast far too few times [Laughter]\u2014our listeners keep telling us that. I keep telling her that; and yet, she is human\u2014she\u2019s not bionic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 She can only do so much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She can only do so much. She is\u2014I really wish her listeners could go back in her studio and see where she creates a lot of the things she\u2019s creating for families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you talking about her\u2014by the way, Barbara, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you talking about her studio at home\u2014her studio\u2014because there\u2019s this workroom, down here at the end of the hall\u2014are you talking about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You talking about her office?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes\u2014it\u2019s in all three\u2014[Laughter] because it\u2019s all over all three. She\u2019s at work!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, the one that the listeners need to see is the one at home because \u201cmy studio\u201d sounds so lofty and so wonderful\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the studio\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s really my laundry room! [Laughter] So, all the moms, listening, will go: \u201cOh! That makes me feel so much better!\u2014because my\u2014where I work, at home, is in the laundry room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is where you\u2019ve been working on\u2014and it\u2019s hard to know, exactly, how to describe what it is you\u2019ve been working on\u2014artistic discipleship tools for families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow! That\u2019s a unique description!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How\u2019s that? That\u2019s not bad! Because really it is the combination of beautiful art, a heart for discipleship, and a desire to see families engaged around the Scriptures\u2014that you bring all of that together in the resources you\u2019ve been putting together\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s correct. That\u2019s really well done, Bob. Thank you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as well as making memorable moments together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It really is about, you know, holidays, birthdays, and all the times when families really excel; but, with just a little preparation, you can turn them into truly memorable moments.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, and of course, this is a big holiday week because, on Thursday, families, all around the world, will be gathering together to celebrate the posting of the 95 Theses on the door at Wittenberg, Germany. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat took place in 1517\u2014October, the thirty-first. Of course, that\u2019s what everybody is paying attention to on October 31; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I know. It\u2019s all over the stores. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Of course\u2014Reformation Day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, exactly! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have a resource yet for Reformation Day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, but I would <em>love<\/em> to get a resource for Reformation Day. [Laughter] I seriously would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, something to take the place of Halloween\u2014no doubt about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You do have some resources that have Thanksgiving in mind. Before we talk about those\u2014you had the opportunity, earlier this year, to get together with a group of moms and speak to them. Tell us about the event where you were speaking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was last spring. I was in Pine Cove, Texas\u2014it\u2019s actually a camp near Tyler, Texas. My good friend, Tracey Eyster, who runs the <em>MomLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> blog\u2014that\u2019s a part of FamilyLife\u2014she put on a retreat for moms. It\u2019s called MomLife Bootcamp<sub>\u2122<\/sub>. It\u2019s run at the camp. All these moms showed up\u2014about 200\/300 moms came for a weekend away\u2014without kids, and without having to cook, and without responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey lined up a group of women who spoke to the women. Then, in their free time, they had time to do the zip-line, and ride horses, and do all kinds of fun stuff that they can\u2019t do in their normal life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I listened to the messages from the MomLife Bootcamp. I heard your messages. In one of your messages, you told a story about where the desire to do what you\u2019re doing kind of first came from. I don\u2019t know that I\u2019d ever heard the story. So, I asked our engineer, Keith\u2014I said, \u201cWould you get this?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan we just listen to it together? Then, you can, maybe, tell a little bit more about it. Is this okay if we play this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure, of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is from the MomLife Bootcamp. This is Barbara\u2014just sharing about\u2014well, this would go back to the 1970s. Listen to this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previously Recorded]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> When I was a young mom, and I just had two kids\u2014Ashley was two and her little brother, Benjamin, was six months\u2014I was still trying to keep this part of my life\u2014that I had a lot of interest in\u2014which was watercolor painting. I was still trying to keep that alive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d taken some classes before we got married. I took some classes after we got married. I loved kind of dabbling in it, here and there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA friend of mine asked me to do a painting\u2014friend of ours asked me to do a painting for him\u2014for his new office. I thought: \u201cWell, that\u2019s pretty cool. I\u2019ve never been asked to do a commission before.\u201d I was really excited about that. I got out all my stuff on the kitchen table. I remember starting to work on this project, and the kids\u2014I\u2019d started during naptime\u2014the kids got up from their nap, and I wasn\u2019t finished. I was going: \u201cLeave me alone. I have to do this. I have to finish this;\u201d and they bugged me.\u00a0 So, I put it away and got it out the next day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey got up from nap before I was finished. You know: \u201cMommy!\u00a0 Mommy, we need this! We need that.\u201d I remember getting really irritated with them and thinking: \u201cMy gosh! Leave me alone for just a few minutes so I can finish. Don\u2019t you know this is important? I\u2019m going to get <em>paid<\/em>.\u201d I just thought: \u201cI have to finish this! This is really critical that I do this.\u201d I realized, in that moment, I didn\u2019t like who I was with my kids because I was trying to do something else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Holy Spirit spoke very clearly to me. He reminded me\u2014not so much of a specific verse\u2014as it was a principle of Scripture that I knew to be true\u2014and that is\u2014God had given me my children to raise. I had two jobs. I knew, from Scripture, that my first job was to be a wife; and my second job was to be a mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI finished that assignment for him, and I finished the painting. This is, literally, what I did\u2014I took all my stuff\u2014packed it in the box\u2014put it in a cardboard box\u2014put the lid down on the cardboard box\u2014wrote \u201cArt Supplies\u201d on the outside\u2014and put it up on the shelf in a closet. When I put it up on the shelf, I said: \u201cLord, this is Yours. If You don\u2019t want me to use it, that\u2019s Your business.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know enough about God to know that He knows what He\u2019s doing. So, that\u2019s part of the reason why the fact that I\u2019m getting to do Ever Thine Home<sup>\u2122<\/sup> now is so rewarding and so fulfilling\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tbecause I put all that on the shelf. I gave it all up for God and would have been perfectly happy if He hadn\u2019t given it back to me; but He did, and it makes it all the sweeter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the importance of this story is not so much what I did\u2014although, I hope it will help encourage some of you to think through your priorities\u2014think about what\u2019s important in your life today\u2014but because I want you to understand that the Holy Spirit spoke that to me. What we do so often, as women, is we hear a story like that; and we go: \u201cOh! Maybe, that\u2019s what I should do.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t go inside and say, \u201cHoly Spirit, who lives in me, what do <em>You<\/em> want me to do?\u201d Do you want to know what the will of God is for your life? The only way you\u2019re going to know the will of God for your life is by listening to the Spirit of God\u2014not looking at other people\u2014not doing what other friends are doing\u2014but listening to the Spirit of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening to Barbara Rainey share a story from a recent event for moms. Do you remember that time, Dennis, when she boxed up those art supplies?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I do. As a husband, I understood that it was a sacrificial statement, by her, to do that but not as much as I do, now, looking back. I wish I had praised her more for making that decision, at that time, and given her some more affirmation, and praise, and appreciation for that because most of us\u2014as men, husbands, fathers\u2014I don\u2019t think we can say enough to appreciate our wives for the role they fulfill in being a wife and a mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe cool thing that I think about this story is\u2014now, looking back on it\u2014is how God honored Barbara\u2019s obedience, at that point, to fulfill her two God-given primary responsibilities\u2014that of being a wife\u2014and that had an enormous sacrifice to it\u2014and also being a mom\u2014and the sacrifices of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back on it, now, I think God was pleased with her sacrifice. He\u2019s now birthing something that is going to help a lot of homes\u2014a lot of marriages, and families, and extended families\u2014I think, for generations to come because what she\u2019s creating is going to last. It\u2019s going to be passed on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Barbara, did you ever find yourself, after you had put those art supplies up on the shelf, wishing you could get them back down again\u2014resenting your kids because they were getting in the way of what you wanted to do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, because the work of being a mom is so often\u2014not so often\u2014I would say it\u2019s really all of the time\u2014it\u2019s pretty thankless. I mean, kids don\u2019t get up in the morning and say, \u201cGosh, Mom! Thanks for doing my laundry.\u201d They don\u2019t say, \u201cThanks for fixing my food.\u201d They don\u2019t say, \u201cThank you,\u201d for anything; in fact, if anything, they complain about the food that you fix. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that, \u201cYes, I did want to get that stuff back down,\u201d because there\u2019s a sense of fulfillment in being able to, for me\u2014or anybody who has an ability to do something\u2014there\u2019s a sense of fulfillment in accomplishing it because you can have a starting point, and an ending point, and it\u2019s done. You can say, \u201cFinished.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParenting is such a\u2014there\u2019s no completion point, really, until they\u2019re grown and gone. So, it\u2019s thankless, and it\u2019s frustrating, and it\u2019s difficult. So, \u201cYes,\u201d I wanted to get it off the shelf; but I never did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you find yourself kind of wishing you hadn\u2019t had so many kids so you could get back to doing art?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, that wasn\u2019t ever a problem because I really did trust that, when God wanted to give it back to me, He would give it back to me. I was\u2014I really was content trusting Him with that. I really was honestly content that if He didn\u2019t give it back, He knew what He was doing. It was okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you find yourself thinking\u2014when your youngest was in her senior year of high school and getting ready for college\u2014were you thinking, \u201cYou know, when she leaves, I can get the art supplies back out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I actually started before that. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a friend who introduced me to another friend who taught art lessons. I actually started taking some art lessons when our youngest was a sophomore in high school because, by then, I just had two kids at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had a little more spare time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had quite a bit more free time. So, I started taking watercolor classes when she was a sophomore in high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She started dreaming and started talking about, \u201cWhat if?\u201d and articulating some of the things she\u2019d like to do for families. I really kind of watched this re-birth occur in her as margins reappeared into her life\u2014which moms, who are listening to us today, need to hear. Husbands need to remind their wives, occasionally, that there will be another season, outside of raising children, where there will be more time for some of these matters. But she kicked it back into gear. Not long after Laura left home to go away to college, she really began to pursue her interest in earnest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here\u2019s what\u2019s been interesting to me. You didn\u2019t just dive back into painting; although, you\u2019ve done some of that. You started exploring lots of different ways for artistic expression. It really blossomed from what had just been paints and watercolors to a whole different approach\u2014all of it built around the idea that you want to use art in a way that can communicate eternal truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly; because\u2014while I loved art and while I have loved being creative all my life\u2014and by the way, just because I put my paints in a box and put them on a shelf didn\u2019t mean I stopped being creative when I was raising our kids. I just was creative in other ways\u2014I enjoyed helping kids with the science fair projects. I enjoyed painting rooms. I mean, I was always dabbling in something creative.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and I want to bear witness to the truth of that\u2014about painting rooms. I learned how to paint\u2014to just paint rooms, at the direction of Barbara. [Laughter] It was her desire to make our home beautiful and attractive. For the most part, I did that without begrudging.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 For the most part.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 For the most part\u2014and helped. I let her do the trim, and I did the roller.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When did you start to see the opportunities for art expanding beyond just a canvas and paint? Do you remember?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it really sort of happened, simultaneously, because, in the early \u201890s, I started doing some pretty serious Bible Study. It was not long after that that I started doing art again. So, it sort of\u2014they both sort of happened at the same time. I began to think through, as my kids left home and as I had more free time, about all the things that\u2014and I think moms do this\u2014probably, dads do some, too\u2014but I remember thinking about the things that I wished I could have done: \u201cI wish that I could have made Christmas more meaningful,\u201d \u201cI wish I could have taught them more of what I was learning in the Bible,\u201d or whatever it was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt wasn\u2019t that I was all wrapped up in regrets as much as it was there were things that I knew that I wanted to do. I wanted to be able to teach my kids more about Christ; but I was so busy, as a mom. I was so overwhelmed. I was so tired all the time, and I couldn\u2019t find anything available. I didn\u2019t have the time and energy to create something like what I wanted to be able to teach my kids, and to engage with my kids, and to interact with them, and to create that atmosphere for our family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I began to think about what I wanted to do in my empty-nest years, it just started to make sense that if I could help create some things that would help parents who were raising kids, since we\u2019re not doing it anymore. So, for my kids\u2014for our kids and their families\u2014if I could help create some things that would help them do what I always longed to do\u2014that that would be a great use of my time and my energies. So, the way the art fits into that\u2014I just have a real passion for us, as believers, to create\u2014not just beautiful\u2014but things that really have good value, as we create resources.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, in the Christian community, we\u2019ve kind of slacked off on that. We don\u2019t build grand cathedrals anymore. We build really efficient, functional buildings. I think we lose some of the grandeur and the wonder of God when we settle for\u2014just for things being utilitarian. I think, when we take the beauty out, we lose some of who He is. So, I wanted to be able to put that back into it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, explain for our listeners\u2014because you brought one of the things you\u2019ve been working on, recently, into the studio with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve seen this before. I saw this back at Easter, but you\u2019ve made some changes to what it was you\u2019re working on. Explain what it is and what you call it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is called the Gathered Round. The reason it\u2019s called that is because it\u2019s a round card-holder. Picture something that you can stick greeting cards in, or you could stick post cards in, or you can stick photographs in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou could call it a wreath because it\u2019s shaped like a wreath. In the center is a chalk-board. It\u2019s meant to be something that a family would purchase. You put it on your kitchen counter, you put it on your kitchen table, or you set it on an entry-way table. It has a stand so it can stand alone on all of those places; but the stand is also removable. You could hang it on your front door, without the stand. What it\u2019s meant to be is\u2014it\u2019s meant to be a place where the family celebrates life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of families have message boards. We have white-boards with our calendars\u2014we\u2019re always talking about our to-do list, who\u2019s going where when\u2014but this is meant to be the focus of, \u201cHow do we celebrate the truly important moments of life?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, in the busyness of modern-day life\u2014with lessons, and practices, and school, and everything else\u2014I think it\u2019s so easy to overlook those moments that we, as moms and dads, need to celebrate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen our kids make a really good decision, sometimes we just pat them on the head and say, \u201cWay to go;\u201d and then we\u2019re off\u2014when it really should be celebrated, significantly, so that\u2014that good decision that our son or our daughter made\u2014that\u2019s reinforced in a way that he goes: \u201cOh! I want to do that again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It looks like it\u2019s about 2\u00bd feet tall. Is that about right; do you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Probably.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Eighteen\/twenty-four inches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s, as you said, it\u2019s a wreath on a stand, with a chalk-board in the middle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you can put greeting cards, or notes, or, kind of whatever you want to in the wreath part of it. On the chalk-board\u2014if it\u2019s somebody\u2019s birthday, you can write \u201cHappy Birthday\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. You can say: \u201cGreat! You got your braces off!\u201d You can say, \u201cCongratulations on passing your drivers\u2019 test.\u201d You can say, \u201cWelcome\u201d. You\u2019ve got friends coming over for dinner\u2014\u201cWelcome to the Walkers\u201d. Or if you\u2019ve got a friend\u2014someone new moved to town and you\u2019re having the new neighbor over for coffee\u2014you can write, \u201cWelcome to the neighborhood!\u201d and stick a bunch of recipes on it that you\u2019re going to give her for a gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are all kinds of things that can be done with it. It\u2019s intended to be very versatile, very practical. I mean, kids can go up and write notes on it, too. It\u2019s not just for moms and dads.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s kind of hard to describe, but folks can go to FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s a link there that they can see what this looks like and see how it would look in a room. It\u2019s designed to draw families together; isn\u2019t it?\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and to celebrate individuals. I mean, I know one of the things we would have used this for was\u2014one of our sons turned away from pornography, in his teenage years, and made a choice\u2014and we found out about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, this would be a great place to say: \u201cWay to go, Ben!\u201d \u201cWay to go, Samuel!\u201d Maybe, not advertise what exactly happened to everybody but to just celebrate a great choice because those are the things we sometimes walk by, in our busy schedules and life. We don\u2019t take the time to pay attention to them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s easy for moms and dads to do the birthdays and do the holidays because they\u2019re on the calendar. We know it is coming. We know we\u2019ve got a week \/ we\u2019ve got two weeks\u2014however long. So, we make ourselves gear up for those events. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when something really cool happens at school, or the\u2014those kinds of milestones in family life\u2014the character-building moments\u2014the things that are really important\u2014it\u2019s just too easy to whiz by those. If you\u2019ve got a way to celebrate that, I think it helps cement, in your child\u2019s heart, what\u2019s important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you look at Old Testament history. The nation was called to celebrate milestones, regularly\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014whether it was feasts or festivals, or stones of remembrance, or story-telling. This is just a way that a family can live out that same concept in their own homes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly. That\u2019s a great illustration because that\u2019s what it\u2019s all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And there\u2019s other holidays coming up\u2014one, immediately\u2014Thanksgiving. There are other resources that Barbara has created, that fit in with Gathered Round, that can be used as a part celebrating what you want to be grateful for and thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes. I think a lot of what you\u2019ve been working on, Barbara, really needs to be seen. We can talk about it, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; but until listeners go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link for the Ever Thine Home resources\u2014and can really see what it is we\u2019re talking about\u2014they can\u2019t get the full picture of what it is you\u2019ve been working on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link we have there for Barbara\u2019s resources. The link says, \u201cEver Thine Home\u201d. Click on that, and you can see what the Gathered Round metal wreath looks like. Find out more about the Untie Your Story resource, that you developed, and something else for Thanksgiving, called Written and Remembered. All of it is online at FamilyLifeToday.com. You\u2019ll get a full explanation of what\u2019s available and how to use it. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the Ever Thine Home link. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FL-TODAY. We have a team of folks who\u2019d be happy to answer any questions you have about any of these resources. They can make arrangements to have the ones you want sent to you. Call 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Someone on our team can help you with any questions you have about the resources Barbara has been developing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, it was a couple years ago that\u2014Barbara, you wrote a book about Thanksgiving\u2014called <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em>. Our team has put together an audio version of that book that tells the story of the very first Thanksgiving, in a dramatized fashion, that\u2019s great for families to listen to as the Thanksgiving holidays approach. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, let me just play a little clip from <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em> so you can hear a little bit of what the audio-book sounds like.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Audio Book]\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWilliam Bradford was one of those who decided to embark on the adventure. During the exile in Holland, he had met and married a young woman named Dorothy May. The couple later had a son named John, who was particularly precious to his mother. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause of the anticipated hardships awaiting the Separatists in America, as well as the rigors of the ocean voyage, some decided to leave family members behind in Holland. They hoped that in the near future all could be reunited in the new land. This was true of the Bradfords, who sadly chose to leave five-year-old John in the care of others: [Dorothy crying] \u201cDorothy May, we must trust in the Sovereign to give us hope and rest\u2014to the best for he and thee.\u201d \u201cBut the boy is precious to my soul, William. Can the beckoning of a new land cause us to forego our steadfast duty to our own son?\u201d [Crying]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cGod\u2019s will be done. God\u2019s will be done.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The audio book is great for families to listen to at Thanksgiving time. This week, we\u2019re making the audio book available to those of you who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. We are listener-supported. Your donations are what make this daily radio program possible, and we are grateful for your financial support. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me encourage you\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. Make an online donation, and we\u2019ll send you the audio book for <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em>. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can make a donation over the phone, and ask for the audio book about Thanksgiving when you get in touch with us. We\u2019ll send that on to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also request the audio book and send your donation to us by mail. Our address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. And let me just say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for your financial support. We do appreciate your partnership in this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk about how to get rid of small talk\u2014how to have some more meaningful conversations at the dinner table this year during the holidays or anytime. We\u2019ll talk more about that tomorrow. Hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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She is\u2014I really wish her listeners could go back in her studio and see where she creates a lot of the things she\u2019s creating for families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you talking about her\u2014by the way, Barbara, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you talking about her studio at home\u2014her studio\u2014because there\u2019s this workroom, down here at the end of the hall\u2014are you talking about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You talking about her office?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes\u2014it\u2019s in all three\u2014[Laughter] because it\u2019s all over all three. She\u2019s at work!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, the one that the listeners need to see is the one at home because \u201cmy studio\u201d sounds so lofty and so wonderful\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the studio\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s really my laundry room! [Laughter] So, all the moms, listening, will go: \u201cOh! That makes me feel so much better!\u2014because my\u2014where I work, at home, is in the laundry room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is where you\u2019ve been working on\u2014and it\u2019s hard to know, exactly, how to describe what it is you\u2019ve been working on\u2014artistic discipleship tools for families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow! That\u2019s a unique description!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How\u2019s that? That\u2019s not bad! Because really it is the combination of beautiful art, a heart for discipleship, and a desire to see families engaged around the Scriptures\u2014that you bring all of that together in the resources you\u2019ve been putting together\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s correct. That\u2019s really well done, Bob. Thank you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as well as making memorable moments together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It really is about, you know, holidays, birthdays, and all the times when families really excel; but, with just a little preparation, you can turn them into truly memorable moments.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, and of course, this is a big holiday week because, on Thursday, families, all around the world, will be gathering together to celebrate the posting of the 95 Theses on the door at Wittenberg, Germany. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat took place in 1517\u2014October, the thirty-first. Of course, that\u2019s what everybody is paying attention to on October 31; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I know. It\u2019s all over the stores. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Of course\u2014Reformation Day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, exactly! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have a resource yet for Reformation Day?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, but I would <em>love<\/em> to get a resource for Reformation Day. [Laughter] I seriously would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, something to take the place of Halloween\u2014no doubt about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You do have some resources that have Thanksgiving in mind. Before we talk about those\u2014you had the opportunity, earlier this year, to get together with a group of moms and speak to them. Tell us about the event where you were speaking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was last spring. I was in Pine Cove, Texas\u2014it\u2019s actually a camp near Tyler, Texas. My good friend, Tracey Eyster, who runs the <em>MomLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> blog\u2014that\u2019s a part of FamilyLife\u2014she put on a retreat for moms. It\u2019s called MomLife Bootcamp<sub>\u2122<\/sub>. It\u2019s run at the camp. All these moms showed up\u2014about 200\/300 moms came for a weekend away\u2014without kids, and without having to cook, and without responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracey lined up a group of women who spoke to the women. Then, in their free time, they had time to do the zip-line, and ride horses, and do all kinds of fun stuff that they can\u2019t do in their normal life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I listened to the messages from the MomLife Bootcamp. I heard your messages. In one of your messages, you told a story about where the desire to do what you\u2019re doing kind of first came from. I don\u2019t know that I\u2019d ever heard the story. So, I asked our engineer, Keith\u2014I said, \u201cWould you get this?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan we just listen to it together? Then, you can, maybe, tell a little bit more about it. Is this okay if we play this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure, of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is from the MomLife Bootcamp. This is Barbara\u2014just sharing about\u2014well, this would go back to the 1970s. Listen to this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previously Recorded]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> When I was a young mom, and I just had two kids\u2014Ashley was two and her little brother, Benjamin, was six months\u2014I was still trying to keep this part of my life\u2014that I had a lot of interest in\u2014which was watercolor painting. I was still trying to keep that alive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d taken some classes before we got married. I took some classes after we got married. I loved kind of dabbling in it, here and there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA friend of mine asked me to do a painting\u2014friend of ours asked me to do a painting for him\u2014for his new office. I thought: \u201cWell, that\u2019s pretty cool. I\u2019ve never been asked to do a commission before.\u201d I was really excited about that. I got out all my stuff on the kitchen table. I remember starting to work on this project, and the kids\u2014I\u2019d started during naptime\u2014the kids got up from their nap, and I wasn\u2019t finished. I was going: \u201cLeave me alone. I have to do this. I have to finish this;\u201d and they bugged me.\u00a0 So, I put it away and got it out the next day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey got up from nap before I was finished. You know: \u201cMommy!\u00a0 Mommy, we need this! We need that.\u201d I remember getting really irritated with them and thinking: \u201cMy gosh! Leave me alone for just a few minutes so I can finish. Don\u2019t you know this is important? I\u2019m going to get <em>paid<\/em>.\u201d I just thought: \u201cI have to finish this! This is really critical that I do this.\u201d I realized, in that moment, I didn\u2019t like who I was with my kids because I was trying to do something else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Holy Spirit spoke very clearly to me. He reminded me\u2014not so much of a specific verse\u2014as it was a principle of Scripture that I knew to be true\u2014and that is\u2014God had given me my children to raise. I had two jobs. I knew, from Scripture, that my first job was to be a wife; and my second job was to be a mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI finished that assignment for him, and I finished the painting. This is, literally, what I did\u2014I took all my stuff\u2014packed it in the box\u2014put it in a cardboard box\u2014put the lid down on the cardboard box\u2014wrote \u201cArt Supplies\u201d on the outside\u2014and put it up on the shelf in a closet. When I put it up on the shelf, I said: \u201cLord, this is Yours. If You don\u2019t want me to use it, that\u2019s Your business.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know enough about God to know that He knows what He\u2019s doing. So, that\u2019s part of the reason why the fact that I\u2019m getting to do Ever Thine Home<sup>\u2122<\/sup> now is so rewarding and so fulfilling\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tbecause I put all that on the shelf. I gave it all up for God and would have been perfectly happy if He hadn\u2019t given it back to me; but He did, and it makes it all the sweeter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the importance of this story is not so much what I did\u2014although, I hope it will help encourage some of you to think through your priorities\u2014think about what\u2019s important in your life today\u2014but because I want you to understand that the Holy Spirit spoke that to me. What we do so often, as women, is we hear a story like that; and we go: \u201cOh! Maybe, that\u2019s what I should do.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t go inside and say, \u201cHoly Spirit, who lives in me, what do <em>You<\/em> want me to do?\u201d Do you want to know what the will of God is for your life? The only way you\u2019re going to know the will of God for your life is by listening to the Spirit of God\u2014not looking at other people\u2014not doing what other friends are doing\u2014but listening to the Spirit of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening to Barbara Rainey share a story from a recent event for moms. Do you remember that time, Dennis, when she boxed up those art supplies?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I do. As a husband, I understood that it was a sacrificial statement, by her, to do that but not as much as I do, now, looking back. I wish I had praised her more for making that decision, at that time, and given her some more affirmation, and praise, and appreciation for that because most of us\u2014as men, husbands, fathers\u2014I don\u2019t think we can say enough to appreciate our wives for the role they fulfill in being a wife and a mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe cool thing that I think about this story is\u2014now, looking back on it\u2014is how God honored Barbara\u2019s obedience, at that point, to fulfill her two God-given primary responsibilities\u2014that of being a wife\u2014and that had an enormous sacrifice to it\u2014and also being a mom\u2014and the sacrifices of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back on it, now, I think God was pleased with her sacrifice. He\u2019s now birthing something that is going to help a lot of homes\u2014a lot of marriages, and families, and extended families\u2014I think, for generations to come because what she\u2019s creating is going to last. It\u2019s going to be passed on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Barbara, did you ever find yourself, after you had put those art supplies up on the shelf, wishing you could get them back down again\u2014resenting your kids because they were getting in the way of what you wanted to do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, because the work of being a mom is so often\u2014not so often\u2014I would say it\u2019s really all of the time\u2014it\u2019s pretty thankless. I mean, kids don\u2019t get up in the morning and say, \u201cGosh, Mom! Thanks for doing my laundry.\u201d They don\u2019t say, \u201cThanks for fixing my food.\u201d They don\u2019t say, \u201cThank you,\u201d for anything; in fact, if anything, they complain about the food that you fix. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that, \u201cYes, I did want to get that stuff back down,\u201d because there\u2019s a sense of fulfillment in being able to, for me\u2014or anybody who has an ability to do something\u2014there\u2019s a sense of fulfillment in accomplishing it because you can have a starting point, and an ending point, and it\u2019s done. You can say, \u201cFinished.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParenting is such a\u2014there\u2019s no completion point, really, until they\u2019re grown and gone. So, it\u2019s thankless, and it\u2019s frustrating, and it\u2019s difficult. So, \u201cYes,\u201d I wanted to get it off the shelf; but I never did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you find yourself kind of wishing you hadn\u2019t had so many kids so you could get back to doing art?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, that wasn\u2019t ever a problem because I really did trust that, when God wanted to give it back to me, He would give it back to me. I was\u2014I really was content trusting Him with that. I really was honestly content that if He didn\u2019t give it back, He knew what He was doing. It was okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you find yourself thinking\u2014when your youngest was in her senior year of high school and getting ready for college\u2014were you thinking, \u201cYou know, when she leaves, I can get the art supplies back out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I actually started before that. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a friend who introduced me to another friend who taught art lessons. I actually started taking some art lessons when our youngest was a sophomore in high school because, by then, I just had two kids at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had a little more spare time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had quite a bit more free time. So, I started taking watercolor classes when she was a sophomore in high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She started dreaming and started talking about, \u201cWhat if?\u201d and articulating some of the things she\u2019d like to do for families. I really kind of watched this re-birth occur in her as margins reappeared into her life\u2014which moms, who are listening to us today, need to hear. Husbands need to remind their wives, occasionally, that there will be another season, outside of raising children, where there will be more time for some of these matters. But she kicked it back into gear. Not long after Laura left home to go away to college, she really began to pursue her interest in earnest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here\u2019s what\u2019s been interesting to me. You didn\u2019t just dive back into painting; although, you\u2019ve done some of that. You started exploring lots of different ways for artistic expression. It really blossomed from what had just been paints and watercolors to a whole different approach\u2014all of it built around the idea that you want to use art in a way that can communicate eternal truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly; because\u2014while I loved art and while I have loved being creative all my life\u2014and by the way, just because I put my paints in a box and put them on a shelf didn\u2019t mean I stopped being creative when I was raising our kids. I just was creative in other ways\u2014I enjoyed helping kids with the science fair projects. I enjoyed painting rooms. I mean, I was always dabbling in something creative.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and I want to bear witness to the truth of that\u2014about painting rooms. I learned how to paint\u2014to just paint rooms, at the direction of Barbara. [Laughter] It was her desire to make our home beautiful and attractive. For the most part, I did that without begrudging.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 For the most part.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 For the most part\u2014and helped. I let her do the trim, and I did the roller.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When did you start to see the opportunities for art expanding beyond just a canvas and paint? Do you remember?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it really sort of happened, simultaneously, because, in the early \u201890s, I started doing some pretty serious Bible Study. It was not long after that that I started doing art again. So, it sort of\u2014they both sort of happened at the same time. I began to think through, as my kids left home and as I had more free time, about all the things that\u2014and I think moms do this\u2014probably, dads do some, too\u2014but I remember thinking about the things that I wished I could have done: \u201cI wish that I could have made Christmas more meaningful,\u201d \u201cI wish I could have taught them more of what I was learning in the Bible,\u201d or whatever it was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt wasn\u2019t that I was all wrapped up in regrets as much as it was there were things that I knew that I wanted to do. I wanted to be able to teach my kids more about Christ; but I was so busy, as a mom. I was so overwhelmed. I was so tired all the time, and I couldn\u2019t find anything available. I didn\u2019t have the time and energy to create something like what I wanted to be able to teach my kids, and to engage with my kids, and to interact with them, and to create that atmosphere for our family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I began to think about what I wanted to do in my empty-nest years, it just started to make sense that if I could help create some things that would help parents who were raising kids, since we\u2019re not doing it anymore. So, for my kids\u2014for our kids and their families\u2014if I could help create some things that would help them do what I always longed to do\u2014that that would be a great use of my time and my energies. So, the way the art fits into that\u2014I just have a real passion for us, as believers, to create\u2014not just beautiful\u2014but things that really have good value, as we create resources.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, in the Christian community, we\u2019ve kind of slacked off on that. We don\u2019t build grand cathedrals anymore. We build really efficient, functional buildings. I think we lose some of the grandeur and the wonder of God when we settle for\u2014just for things being utilitarian. I think, when we take the beauty out, we lose some of who He is. So, I wanted to be able to put that back into it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, explain for our listeners\u2014because you brought one of the things you\u2019ve been working on, recently, into the studio with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve seen this before. I saw this back at Easter, but you\u2019ve made some changes to what it was you\u2019re working on. Explain what it is and what you call it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is called the Gathered Round. The reason it\u2019s called that is because it\u2019s a round card-holder. Picture something that you can stick greeting cards in, or you could stick post cards in, or you can stick photographs in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou could call it a wreath because it\u2019s shaped like a wreath. In the center is a chalk-board. It\u2019s meant to be something that a family would purchase. You put it on your kitchen counter, you put it on your kitchen table, or you set it on an entry-way table. It has a stand so it can stand alone on all of those places; but the stand is also removable. You could hang it on your front door, without the stand. What it\u2019s meant to be is\u2014it\u2019s meant to be a place where the family celebrates life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of families have message boards. We have white-boards with our calendars\u2014we\u2019re always talking about our to-do list, who\u2019s going where when\u2014but this is meant to be the focus of, \u201cHow do we celebrate the truly important moments of life?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, in the busyness of modern-day life\u2014with lessons, and practices, and school, and everything else\u2014I think it\u2019s so easy to overlook those moments that we, as moms and dads, need to celebrate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen our kids make a really good decision, sometimes we just pat them on the head and say, \u201cWay to go;\u201d and then we\u2019re off\u2014when it really should be celebrated, significantly, so that\u2014that good decision that our son or our daughter made\u2014that\u2019s reinforced in a way that he goes: \u201cOh! I want to do that again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It looks like it\u2019s about 2\u00bd feet tall. Is that about right; do you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Probably.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Eighteen\/twenty-four inches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s, as you said, it\u2019s a wreath on a stand, with a chalk-board in the middle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you can put greeting cards, or notes, or, kind of whatever you want to in the wreath part of it. On the chalk-board\u2014if it\u2019s somebody\u2019s birthday, you can write \u201cHappy Birthday\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. You can say: \u201cGreat! You got your braces off!\u201d You can say, \u201cCongratulations on passing your drivers\u2019 test.\u201d You can say, \u201cWelcome\u201d. You\u2019ve got friends coming over for dinner\u2014\u201cWelcome to the Walkers\u201d. Or if you\u2019ve got a friend\u2014someone new moved to town and you\u2019re having the new neighbor over for coffee\u2014you can write, \u201cWelcome to the neighborhood!\u201d and stick a bunch of recipes on it that you\u2019re going to give her for a gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are all kinds of things that can be done with it. It\u2019s intended to be very versatile, very practical. I mean, kids can go up and write notes on it, too. It\u2019s not just for moms and dads.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s kind of hard to describe, but folks can go to FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s a link there that they can see what this looks like and see how it would look in a room. It\u2019s designed to draw families together; isn\u2019t it?\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and to celebrate individuals. I mean, I know one of the things we would have used this for was\u2014one of our sons turned away from pornography, in his teenage years, and made a choice\u2014and we found out about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, this would be a great place to say: \u201cWay to go, Ben!\u201d \u201cWay to go, Samuel!\u201d Maybe, not advertise what exactly happened to everybody but to just celebrate a great choice because those are the things we sometimes walk by, in our busy schedules and life. We don\u2019t take the time to pay attention to them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s easy for moms and dads to do the birthdays and do the holidays because they\u2019re on the calendar. We know it is coming. We know we\u2019ve got a week \/ we\u2019ve got two weeks\u2014however long. So, we make ourselves gear up for those events. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when something really cool happens at school, or the\u2014those kinds of milestones in family life\u2014the character-building moments\u2014the things that are really important\u2014it\u2019s just too easy to whiz by those. If you\u2019ve got a way to celebrate that, I think it helps cement, in your child\u2019s heart, what\u2019s important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you look at Old Testament history. The nation was called to celebrate milestones, regularly\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014whether it was feasts or festivals, or stones of remembrance, or story-telling. This is just a way that a family can live out that same concept in their own homes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly. That\u2019s a great illustration because that\u2019s what it\u2019s all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And there\u2019s other holidays coming up\u2014one, immediately\u2014Thanksgiving. There are other resources that Barbara has created, that fit in with Gathered Round, that can be used as a part celebrating what you want to be grateful for and thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes. I think a lot of what you\u2019ve been working on, Barbara, really needs to be seen. We can talk about it, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; but until listeners go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link for the Ever Thine Home resources\u2014and can really see what it is we\u2019re talking about\u2014they can\u2019t get the full picture of what it is you\u2019ve been working on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link we have there for Barbara\u2019s resources. The link says, \u201cEver Thine Home\u201d. Click on that, and you can see what the Gathered Round metal wreath looks like. Find out more about the Untie Your Story resource, that you developed, and something else for Thanksgiving, called Written and Remembered. All of it is online at FamilyLifeToday.com. You\u2019ll get a full explanation of what\u2019s available and how to use it. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the Ever Thine Home link. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FL-TODAY. We have a team of folks who\u2019d be happy to answer any questions you have about any of these resources. They can make arrangements to have the ones you want sent to you. Call 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Someone on our team can help you with any questions you have about the resources Barbara has been developing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd of course, it was a couple years ago that\u2014Barbara, you wrote a book about Thanksgiving\u2014called <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em>. Our team has put together an audio version of that book that tells the story of the very first Thanksgiving, in a dramatized fashion, that\u2019s great for families to listen to as the Thanksgiving holidays approach. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, let me just play a little clip from <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em> so you can hear a little bit of what the audio-book sounds like.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Audio Book]\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWilliam Bradford was one of those who decided to embark on the adventure. During the exile in Holland, he had met and married a young woman named Dorothy May. The couple later had a son named John, who was particularly precious to his mother. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause of the anticipated hardships awaiting the Separatists in America, as well as the rigors of the ocean voyage, some decided to leave family members behind in Holland. They hoped that in the near future all could be reunited in the new land. This was true of the Bradfords, who sadly chose to leave five-year-old John in the care of others: [Dorothy crying] \u201cDorothy May, we must trust in the Sovereign to give us hope and rest\u2014to the best for he and thee.\u201d \u201cBut the boy is precious to my soul, William. Can the beckoning of a new land cause us to forego our steadfast duty to our own son?\u201d [Crying]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cGod\u2019s will be done. God\u2019s will be done.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The audio book is great for families to listen to at Thanksgiving time. This week, we\u2019re making the audio book available to those of you who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. We are listener-supported. Your donations are what make this daily radio program possible, and we are grateful for your financial support. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me encourage you\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. Make an online donation, and we\u2019ll send you the audio book for <em>Thanksgiving: A Time to Remember<\/em>. Or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. You can make a donation over the phone, and ask for the audio book about Thanksgiving when you get in touch with us. We\u2019ll send that on to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also request the audio book and send your donation to us by mail. Our address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, P O Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. And let me just say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for your financial support. We do appreciate your partnership in this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk about how to get rid of small talk\u2014how to have some more meaningful conversations at the dinner table this year during the holidays or anytime. We\u2019ll talk more about that tomorrow. Hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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