{"id":302821,"date":"2013-09-27T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-09-27T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/alone-yet-not-alone\/"},"modified":"2013-09-27T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-09-27T15:00:00","slug":"alone-yet-not-alone","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/alone-yet-not-alone\/","title":{"rendered":"Alone Yet Not Alone"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dennis Rainey welcomes Jim Leininger to talk about the release of his new movie, &#8220;Alone Yet Not Alone.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-09-27.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.36M","filesize_raw":"23442577","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2089],"tags":[4704],"podcast_series":[],"cwp_profile":[9321],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302821","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-media-and-entertainment","tag-movies","cwp_profile-jim-leininger","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302821\/alone-yet-not-alone","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302821\/alone-yet-not-alone","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"kSIOaoIDWK\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/alone-yet-not-alone\/\">Alone Yet Not Alone<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/alone-yet-not-alone\/embed\/#?secret=kSIOaoIDWK\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Alone Yet Not Alone&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"kSIOaoIDWK\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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These kids\u2014when they decided to run for their lives, literally\u2014crossed countless rivers and mountains. Historically speaking, I believe there were thousands taken captive; but they are the only children, in the history of Pennsylvania, that ever successfully escaped from the Indians. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, September 27<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll hear the story of Barbara and Regina Leininger today and hear about the new motion picture that shares their story with the world. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just want to interrupt you, Bob. You\u2019ve always gotten on to me when we bring somebody into the studio, where I share a common interest with the guest\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Typically, a hunter or a fisherman who we bring in here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> An outdoorsman of some kind. I feel like, at this point, I just kind of need to step away from the microphone and let you and our guest just talk about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Just take over the whole thing? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014talk about the Spurs. [Laughter] Talk about the Spurs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We could do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014the San Antonio Spurs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> We could do that. We\u2019d have a lot to talk about. Go, Spurs, Go! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tActually, I was thinking you should start off by acknowledging to our listeners the nickname that I\u2019ve come to be known by, here at FamilyLife\u2014the way people refer to me around the hall. You know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, Cecil B. Lepine\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014for your work on <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> and <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The video projects we\u2019ve been involved with. I\u2019ve had a chance to have my hand in that. So, yes, I\u2019m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Are you saying that, maybe, you\u2019ve been supplanted, in our halls, by Cecil B. Leininger. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Maybe; maybe today, at least. That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jim Leininger joins us from San Antonio. Jim, welcome to the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Thank you, Dennis. And just let me say I knew Bob before he came to Little Rock\u2014when he was back in San Antonio\u2014and he was just one of us guys, back then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is Jim saying, \u201cI knew Bob, and you\u2019re no Bob Lepine.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, Jim has been married to Cecelia since 1972, just like Barbara and me. They have four children and, soon to be, nine grandchildren. Jim, you have a passion\u2014Bob referred to it\u2014you have a passion around movies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I\u2019m thinking here\u2014first of all, Bob\u2014I\u2019m about to take him in the direction of Cecil B. Lepine in movies\u2014we\u2019ve got to clear up the San Antonio Spur connection here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, we both lived in San Antonio. You\u2019ve been involved with the team a little bit; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, I have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I have to tell you\u2014my interest\u2014when I lived in San Antonio, I was looking around and thinking: \u201cI know my boys, as they grow up, are going to have some interest in sports. I\u2019d like them to have interest in people with character.\u201d It was right at the time when David Robinson became a Spur. I said, \u201cI don\u2019t need to look any farther than that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He\u2019s a man who has represented Christ well. So, they got David Robinson posters in their rooms at home, and he\u2019s been a great role model for them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> He\u2019s a fine man\u2014as fine a person as I\u2019ve ever known and met. Still, today, when they introduce him at games\u2014I mean, standing ovation. He is beloved by the people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting, to me, Dennis, talking about your interest in movies because you told me the last time you went to a theater was to see <em>Rocky<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Seriously? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. Well, until <em>The Passion of the Christ<\/em>. We went back to the theater for <em>The<\/em> <em>Passion of the Christ<\/em>. So, about a 25-year hiatus\u2014I don\u2019t know exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, now, you are doing what? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> One of those things I swore I\u2019d never do. We\u2019ve just completed the production of our second movie and have helped with the promotion of a third movie. So, we\u2019re getting involved in films that are family-friendly and God-honoring, exclusively. That\u2019s the only thing we\u2019re going to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Why movies, Jim? I mean, here\u2019s a guy who went to see <em>Rocky<\/em> and then <em>The Passion of the Christ<\/em>, 25 years later. It\u2019s not like you\u2019re at home, eating popcorn every Friday night, watching a DVD. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Well, we did watch a lot of DVDs. They were mostly Christian films that were made back in the 80s and in the 90s. For the most part, they weren\u2019t up to the standard of a good Hollywood blockbuster movie, by any stretch of the imagination. It\u2019s not easy, as you know, Cecil. [Laughter] Our goal is to make really quality films, and that is a <em>huge<\/em> undertaking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is. And you\u2019re doing it because, in your heart of hearts, you have a passion for people to turn their hearts toward Jesus Christ and the Scriptures. You are, also, a storyteller. You like stories. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> I love to tell stories. You know, our children\u2014when we were raising them\u2014every night at bedtime, there would be two or three stories before I could get out of the bedroom. So, it was just extemporaneous. You know, just spontaneous\u2014whatever they wanted to hear about. I\u2019d always include them in the story. Never thought of myself as a storyteller; but I loved doing it, and they loved hearing it. So, it just sort of evolved that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tell everybody about the movie that you\u2019ve been working on, most recently, because this is a movie that is opening, this weekend, in Atlanta, in Raleigh, Durham\u2014Knoxville, Tennessee, in Nashville\u2014Grand Rapids, Colorado Springs, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. Depending on how it does in those cities, it\u2019s targeted for a broader release on February 21<sup>st<\/sup>. Tell everybody about the movie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Okay, the movie is called <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. It\u2019s about three little girls who were attacked. Their family was on the frontier of Pennsylvania during the French and Indian War in 1755\u2014was attacked by Indians. The adults, for the most part, were killed. Children\u2014many of them\u2014were taken captive and taken west into western Pennsylvania first. Then\u2014as the British, later in the war\u2014were drawing closer, they took them all the way on into Ohio to Moschinko Indian village, which was on the Muskingum River and is today the city of Zanesville, Ohio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, they took these poor little girls\u2014two were age 12 and one was age 9\u2014from eastern Pennsylvania\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014hundreds of miles\u2014three to four hundred miles into eastern Ohio. They had no idea where they were, obviously. They were just dragged through the woods as little children. The reason their story is famous is that the older two girls, who were taken to the same Indian village, actually, were able to escape with two English boys and make it back to civilization\u2014which, in that case, was Fort Pitt, which is now Pittsburgh. They had no idea where they were going\u2014across countless rivers and mountains. And neither one of the girls could swim. So, it was a challenging run, to say the very least. <br><br>Historically speaking, I believe they are the only children\u2014in the history of Pennsylvania\u2014that ever successfully escaped from the Indians. There were thousands taken captive. That\u2019s how they replenished the Indian tribes, but none ever were able to escape. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, I was sitting there, next to you, watching the movie. You came in here, at Little Rock, and had a private showing for our staff. They <em>thoroughly<\/em> enjoyed it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They really did enjoy it. I have to say, from the very start, the music score is magnificent\u2014and the scenery and the setting for it\u2014but the story pulls you right in. You begin to identify with these young ladies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was sitting next to you, Jim. I think I told you this earlier\u2014I wanted to lean over and say, \u201cNow, Jim, why did the Indians take all these boys and girls who were 9, 10, 11 years old? Why did they do that?\u201d You just explained it\u2014that they are replenishing. As a culture, they were used to conquering other tribes, other peoples; and they\u2019d take the children\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014as a part of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. When an Indian tribe attacked another tribe, what would happen is the warriors would go, out front, and battle the invading Indians. The women, and children, and old people would go running through the woods\u2014out the back door, if you will. Whatever side won, they would take the women, and children, and whoever in that tribe to replace the warriors that were wounded or killed. The children\u2014you can imagine the death rates among children\u2014many didn\u2019t survive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Then, in the movie, they talk about the white man\u2019s pox, which is small pox. Those things caused the decimation of the native populations of America. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Part of the undercurrent for this film is that the children are sustained through all of their hardships by a faith that was passed on to them from a mother and a father\u2014a faithful, godly mom and dad\u2014who taught them the Scriptures in the evenings, read the Bible to them, and prepared them for the hardships they\u2019d be facing. There\u2019s a faith undercurrent to this film that\u2019s very real and very powerful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. And many people didn\u2019t even make the crossing\u2014across the ocean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> \u2014the death rates were very high. Every step of the way, you were looking death in the face. So, if you didn\u2019t have faith\u2014either that or you were a tremendous adventurer\u2014you would never chance this or risk it. So, many of the colonists\u2014the early colonists that came\u2014were believers, who were seeking freedom of religion\u2014especially, in the state\u2014or the colony, at the time\u2014of Pennsylvania, where William Penn was a Quaker. He, literally, went around Europe, seeking religious groups that would come to Pennsylvania. So, probably more than any other colony, you had a very strong religious background in Pennsylvania. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut of all times\u2014Quakers were probably predominant; but Barbara and Regina\u2014the two girls, the 12- and 9-year-old\u2014were German Lutheran. Their next door neighbor and dearest friend was Maria LeRoy, who was from Switzerland and was Amish. So, I think in every colony, the faith community was strong but, particularly, so in Pennsylvania. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The way you weave faith into this movie\u2014it\u2019s just a part of the fabric of this family\u2019s life. You really believe that\u2019s important. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Oh, absolutely. I think that\u2014you know, we can\u2019t even comprehend, today, how dependent people were in the 1700\u2019s on God\u2014you know, for fires, for Indian attacks\u2014I mean, just overwhelming circumstances they had no control over. So, this\u2014the particular family\u2014Barbara and Regina\u2019s family\u2014they had memorized Bible verses. They sang Christian hymns. That\u2019s, ultimately, how Regina got back to find her mother, after being gone for almost ten years, as a captive of the Indians. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is one scene where, I believe, it was Barbara who ran away and was placed on a stake about to be burned and started\u2014they were going to burn her at the stake for running away! She started quoting hymns and singing the song that her mother had sung to her, as a little girl. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s accurate\u2014historically-accurate. She did attempt to escape when they took her younger sister away, who she had promised that she would never leave her. You know, when the Indians divided up, they always divided families. They knew these two were sisters\u2014so, they went to different villages. Of course, Barbara never knew where her sister went; but she tried to get her back. She jumped on a horse and tried to find her, but they captured her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe standard penalty for trying to escape was to be burned or tortured to death. They began to do that to her. She and Marie had been given to the same Indian, named Galasko. He saved her, basically. He was out hunting, and they\u2019d already started to burn her. He came in, just as they did. He argued with the other braves for her. He said: \u201cWell, she was just looking for her sister. She was brave to try.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it\u2019s a true story. We know all the details of it\u2014which is so unusual\u2014but once the girls did escape and get back to Philadelphia, there was a great clamor among the people because there were over 2,200 children that had been taken captive and had disappeared. So, all the relatives and all the families wanted to find these girls and find out if they knew anything about their loved ones. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the authorities said: \u201cWell, it\u2019s not possible. Nobody can escape the Indians.\u201d So, when they found these girls, they brought them before the Pennsylvania Assembly in an official inquiry. Benjamin Franklin was head of the Assembly, at that time; and they grilled them. They thought they were lying. Of course, they could speak the Indian language\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> \u2014and they knew every detail. I think it was like 27 of the children of other families that they were able to identify what happened to them or where they were taken. Of course, they didn\u2019t get any of them back; but at least, it gave the families some solace to know that they were still alive and were healthy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This would make a great movie to take your 10-, 11-, 12-year-old to go see\u2014just to have them identify with other children who began to live out their faith on their own. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a great slice of American history. In fact, as I was watching it, I was thinking about the movie, <em>The Patriot<\/em>, which I don\u2019t know if you ever saw; but it reminded me\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> I love it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014of those scenes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Many times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014from <em>The Patriot<\/em>. It\u2019s just\u2014it\u2019s a part of our heritage that, I think, we\u2019ve lost touch with. So, to be reconnected with that is powerful. Of course, the story of these kids\u2014their bravery, running away, travelling hundreds of miles to get to safety\u2014that\u2019s a compelling story\u2014but it was even more compelling for you for a particular reason. That\u2019s because of the last name of Barbara and Regina; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. That\u2019s Barbara and Regina Leininger. We heard about the story, probably 30 years ago, just through family means and through the writings of Pastor Muhlenberg, who was the original missionary from the Lutheran Church in Germany to the Colony of Pennsylvania. He\u2019s very beloved, and was a great missionary and pastor, and is known as \u201cThe Father of the Lutheran Church in America\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was so impressed with Regina, when she got back, because she couldn\u2019t speak a word of English or German; but when he gave her the Bible, she could read it perfectly in German, even though she had forgotten how to speak it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How to speak it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> How to speak it, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. He, actually, wrote back\u2014and this is what we originally found\u2014was he wrote back to the Lutheran church in Germany, talking about how important it is to inculcate, as early as possible, in these children, God\u2019s Word because it stays there. It never goes away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what helped us to so organically portray their faith in this movie. You know, you don\u2019t have to hit people over the head with it because they were desperate. I mean, they were little children\u2014where their families had been killed, or their cabins burned, and dragged off into the wilderness by people that were so very different than anything they\u2019d been around. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Have you been able to figure out whether Regina and Barbara are eighth cousins, once removed, or where they fit in the Leininger family tree? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> No, I haven\u2019t because we\u2019d have to go back to\u2014most of the Leiningers are from two little villages in Alsace-Lorraine. That\u2019s where they were from, and that\u2019s where we are from. So, I am sure\u2014way back there, somewhere\u2014but in order to find that out, you\u2019d have to go back to those villages, and go to the churches, and trace the ancestry all the way back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you haven\u2019t done that yet? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Just have not had the time, so far. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jim, you mentioned this is your first movie. There is a second one coming that is in process. I\u2019m excited about it, as well. Just salt our listeners down just a little because they are going to be hearing more about this one, later on in the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, the second movie is <em>To Have and to Hold<\/em>. It\u2019s a movie based on a book by Mary Johnston. She wrote it in 1907 for the 300<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary of Jamestown. Then, it was republished in 2007 for the 400<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary. That\u2019s when we found out about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story is about Jamestown. It was a huge national bestseller, when it came out in 1907\u2014was very popular. They made a silent movie out of it. Then, they made\u2014when sound movies first came out, they made a movie, with sound on it. Then, it just kind of was lost in the 1930s; but the story is fabulous. It\u2019s a very popular story, historically, in America. It\u2019s all about the founding of Jamestown\u2014the founding of our country. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And about the fact that 300 men came to settle Jamestown. Somebody forgot to tell them that life was going to be hard here, without women. So, \u201cmaiden ships\u201d came with wives for these 300 colonists; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s the central theme of the story. When the \u201cmaiden ship\u201d arrives\u2014 and there are 2,000\u2014by 1620, there are 2,000 colonists. Ninety-five women arrive, looking for a husband; but they were, shall we say, in big demand. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For our listeners, who would like to see\u2014and again, the movie that is just, now, coming out is a movie called <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. If folks would like to see the trailer for that, they can go to our website: FamilyLifeToday.com. We\u2019ve got a link there so they can watch the film trailer. Then, if they want to know when the film is going to be coming to their city, that\u2019s on your website as well; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> If you just go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link we have there, that will take you right there. You can watch the trailer and find out when the film is coming to your community, but we hope families will go see it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do. And this is a safe movie to bring a neighbor and, perhaps, their family\u2014again, 10 and up\u2014I would think would be perfect. Again, because it shows the journey of these young ladies\u2014a journey of faith\u2014all because they listened to what their mom and dad taught them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you were talking, Jim, I was thinking about Deuteronomy, Chapter 6. It\u2019s really what the movie is all about. Verse 5 says: \u201cYou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s what this illustrates. As you illustrate it through this great movie, you give parents\u2014not merely permission\u2014but courage to hang in there, even when it feels like your kids aren\u2019t listening because if those girls hadn\u2019t listened\u2014I don\u2019t know how you are connected\u2014but you might not be here today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, seriously, Jim! I mean, you are, in essence, a part of the spiritual legacy and the generational passing of a love for Christ that, maybe, somehow is tied all the way back to those 9-, 10-, 11-year-old girls, who believed what their parents taught them about the Scriptures, and refused to fall into unbelief, but trusted God in tough circumstances. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> And they had no place else to turn but to God; but they were firmly-rooted, and they didn\u2019t want to worship the Indian gods. They wanted to be Christian. What spurred them to escape, when they did, was, when the Indians left to go to Fort Pitt, there were only two warriors left in the village to guard and defend against anybody escaping and to protect the old people and the young children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe chief\u2019s son wanted to marry Barbara Leininger. She had been pretending to be ill; and so, she was separated and put off in a long house for the sick people. The chief came to her, the day they left to go to Fort Pitt, and said, \u201cThree days after we get back, we will have a marriage ceremony,\u201d\u2014meaning: \u201cI\u2019m tired of these delays. You will marry my son.\u201d So, she knew she had to get out of there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She refused to worship\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014any other god. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> That is exactly what it came down to. I think that\u2019s portrayed well in the movie, and their faith is the only thing they had. It\u2019s the only thing that sustained them; and if they had not had that, they\u2019d have just been lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s so clear in the film. I\u2019m excited for our listeners\u2014in Atlanta, and in Raleigh, Durham, and Knoxville, and Nashville, and Grand Rapids, and Colorado Springs, and Denver, and Houston, and San Antonio\u2014who are going to get a chance to see the movie this weekend because it\u2019s opening in those cities. Then, the plan is\u2014nationwide, February 21<sup>st<\/sup>\u2014but it all depends on folks getting out to see the movie in those cities this weekend. So, we hope folks will go see <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story is also told in a companion book, which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Go to our website: FamilyLifeToday.com. You can get the information you need about both the book and the movie when you go there. If you\u2019d like to order a copy of the book by phone, call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I wish sometimes that our listeners could be with us, here at FamilyLife, when we have an all staff meeting, like we had recently, or when the team gets together and we get updates on some of the things that are happening. You wish that we could fill folks in on what\u2019s going on around the world about how God is using the new Spanish language edition of <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> in Central and South America, about opportunities that have opened up to us in Asia, about some of the new resources our team is working on, and to share with you how God is using the ministry of FamilyLife, in an increasing way, in the lives of more and more people every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason I share that with you is because some of you are shareholders. You are investors with us in this ministry, as donors, who help support the work that we are doing. We appreciate your financial support and your participation with us in this ministry\u2014couldn\u2019t do it without you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, if you can help with a donation today, we would like to send you a thank-you gift that will help you with the issue of busyness in your family. We talked to a mom, recently, who decided to call a time-out and impose a \u201cRadical Sabbatical\u201d on her family\u2014no extracurricular activities for one year. We\u2019d like to share with you that conversation we had with that mom, along with Dr. Tim Kimmel\u2019s book, <em>Little House on the Freeway<\/em>. And we\u2019re happy to pass those thank-you gifts along when you support this ministry with a donation of at least $25. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. 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[Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tActually, I was thinking you should start off by acknowledging to our listeners the nickname that I\u2019ve come to be known by, here at FamilyLife\u2014the way people refer to me around the hall. You know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, Cecil B. Lepine\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014for your work on <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> and <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The video projects we\u2019ve been involved with. I\u2019ve had a chance to have my hand in that. So, yes, I\u2019m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Are you saying that, maybe, you\u2019ve been supplanted, in our halls, by Cecil B. Leininger. 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You know, our children\u2014when we were raising them\u2014every night at bedtime, there would be two or three stories before I could get out of the bedroom. So, it was just extemporaneous. You know, just spontaneous\u2014whatever they wanted to hear about. I\u2019d always include them in the story. Never thought of myself as a storyteller; but I loved doing it, and they loved hearing it. So, it just sort of evolved that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tell everybody about the movie that you\u2019ve been working on, most recently, because this is a movie that is opening, this weekend, in Atlanta, in Raleigh, Durham\u2014Knoxville, Tennessee, in Nashville\u2014Grand Rapids, Colorado Springs, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. Depending on how it does in those cities, it\u2019s targeted for a broader release on February 21<sup>st<\/sup>. Tell everybody about the movie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Okay, the movie is called <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. It\u2019s about three little girls who were attacked. Their family was on the frontier of Pennsylvania during the French and Indian War in 1755\u2014was attacked by Indians. The adults, for the most part, were killed. Children\u2014many of them\u2014were taken captive and taken west into western Pennsylvania first. Then\u2014as the British, later in the war\u2014were drawing closer, they took them all the way on into Ohio to Moschinko Indian village, which was on the Muskingum River and is today the city of Zanesville, Ohio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, they took these poor little girls\u2014two were age 12 and one was age 9\u2014from eastern Pennsylvania\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014hundreds of miles\u2014three to four hundred miles into eastern Ohio. They had no idea where they were, obviously. They were just dragged through the woods as little children. The reason their story is famous is that the older two girls, who were taken to the same Indian village, actually, were able to escape with two English boys and make it back to civilization\u2014which, in that case, was Fort Pitt, which is now Pittsburgh. They had no idea where they were going\u2014across countless rivers and mountains. And neither one of the girls could swim. So, it was a challenging run, to say the very least. <br><br>Historically speaking, I believe they are the only children\u2014in the history of Pennsylvania\u2014that ever successfully escaped from the Indians. There were thousands taken captive. That\u2019s how they replenished the Indian tribes, but none ever were able to escape. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, I was sitting there, next to you, watching the movie. You came in here, at Little Rock, and had a private showing for our staff. They <em>thoroughly<\/em> enjoyed it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They really did enjoy it. I have to say, from the very start, the music score is magnificent\u2014and the scenery and the setting for it\u2014but the story pulls you right in. You begin to identify with these young ladies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was sitting next to you, Jim. I think I told you this earlier\u2014I wanted to lean over and say, \u201cNow, Jim, why did the Indians take all these boys and girls who were 9, 10, 11 years old? Why did they do that?\u201d You just explained it\u2014that they are replenishing. As a culture, they were used to conquering other tribes, other peoples; and they\u2019d take the children\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014as a part of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. When an Indian tribe attacked another tribe, what would happen is the warriors would go, out front, and battle the invading Indians. The women, and children, and old people would go running through the woods\u2014out the back door, if you will. Whatever side won, they would take the women, and children, and whoever in that tribe to replace the warriors that were wounded or killed. The children\u2014you can imagine the death rates among children\u2014many didn\u2019t survive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Then, in the movie, they talk about the white man\u2019s pox, which is small pox. Those things caused the decimation of the native populations of America. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Part of the undercurrent for this film is that the children are sustained through all of their hardships by a faith that was passed on to them from a mother and a father\u2014a faithful, godly mom and dad\u2014who taught them the Scriptures in the evenings, read the Bible to them, and prepared them for the hardships they\u2019d be facing. There\u2019s a faith undercurrent to this film that\u2019s very real and very powerful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. And many people didn\u2019t even make the crossing\u2014across the ocean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> \u2014the death rates were very high. Every step of the way, you were looking death in the face. So, if you didn\u2019t have faith\u2014either that or you were a tremendous adventurer\u2014you would never chance this or risk it. So, many of the colonists\u2014the early colonists that came\u2014were believers, who were seeking freedom of religion\u2014especially, in the state\u2014or the colony, at the time\u2014of Pennsylvania, where William Penn was a Quaker. He, literally, went around Europe, seeking religious groups that would come to Pennsylvania. So, probably more than any other colony, you had a very strong religious background in Pennsylvania. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut of all times\u2014Quakers were probably predominant; but Barbara and Regina\u2014the two girls, the 12- and 9-year-old\u2014were German Lutheran. Their next door neighbor and dearest friend was Maria LeRoy, who was from Switzerland and was Amish. So, I think in every colony, the faith community was strong but, particularly, so in Pennsylvania. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The way you weave faith into this movie\u2014it\u2019s just a part of the fabric of this family\u2019s life. You really believe that\u2019s important. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Oh, absolutely. I think that\u2014you know, we can\u2019t even comprehend, today, how dependent people were in the 1700\u2019s on God\u2014you know, for fires, for Indian attacks\u2014I mean, just overwhelming circumstances they had no control over. So, this\u2014the particular family\u2014Barbara and Regina\u2019s family\u2014they had memorized Bible verses. They sang Christian hymns. That\u2019s, ultimately, how Regina got back to find her mother, after being gone for almost ten years, as a captive of the Indians. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There is one scene where, I believe, it was Barbara who ran away and was placed on a stake about to be burned and started\u2014they were going to burn her at the stake for running away! She started quoting hymns and singing the song that her mother had sung to her, as a little girl. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s accurate\u2014historically-accurate. She did attempt to escape when they took her younger sister away, who she had promised that she would never leave her. You know, when the Indians divided up, they always divided families. They knew these two were sisters\u2014so, they went to different villages. Of course, Barbara never knew where her sister went; but she tried to get her back. She jumped on a horse and tried to find her, but they captured her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe standard penalty for trying to escape was to be burned or tortured to death. They began to do that to her. She and Marie had been given to the same Indian, named Galasko. He saved her, basically. He was out hunting, and they\u2019d already started to burn her. He came in, just as they did. He argued with the other braves for her. He said: \u201cWell, she was just looking for her sister. She was brave to try.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it\u2019s a true story. We know all the details of it\u2014which is so unusual\u2014but once the girls did escape and get back to Philadelphia, there was a great clamor among the people because there were over 2,200 children that had been taken captive and had disappeared. So, all the relatives and all the families wanted to find these girls and find out if they knew anything about their loved ones. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the authorities said: \u201cWell, it\u2019s not possible. Nobody can escape the Indians.\u201d So, when they found these girls, they brought them before the Pennsylvania Assembly in an official inquiry. Benjamin Franklin was head of the Assembly, at that time; and they grilled them. They thought they were lying. Of course, they could speak the Indian language\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> \u2014and they knew every detail. I think it was like 27 of the children of other families that they were able to identify what happened to them or where they were taken. Of course, they didn\u2019t get any of them back; but at least, it gave the families some solace to know that they were still alive and were healthy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This would make a great movie to take your 10-, 11-, 12-year-old to go see\u2014just to have them identify with other children who began to live out their faith on their own. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a great slice of American history. In fact, as I was watching it, I was thinking about the movie, <em>The Patriot<\/em>, which I don\u2019t know if you ever saw; but it reminded me\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> I love it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014of those scenes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Many times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014from <em>The Patriot<\/em>. It\u2019s just\u2014it\u2019s a part of our heritage that, I think, we\u2019ve lost touch with. So, to be reconnected with that is powerful. Of course, the story of these kids\u2014their bravery, running away, travelling hundreds of miles to get to safety\u2014that\u2019s a compelling story\u2014but it was even more compelling for you for a particular reason. That\u2019s because of the last name of Barbara and Regina; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. That\u2019s Barbara and Regina Leininger. We heard about the story, probably 30 years ago, just through family means and through the writings of Pastor Muhlenberg, who was the original missionary from the Lutheran Church in Germany to the Colony of Pennsylvania. He\u2019s very beloved, and was a great missionary and pastor, and is known as \u201cThe Father of the Lutheran Church in America\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was so impressed with Regina, when she got back, because she couldn\u2019t speak a word of English or German; but when he gave her the Bible, she could read it perfectly in German, even though she had forgotten how to speak it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How to speak it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> How to speak it, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. He, actually, wrote back\u2014and this is what we originally found\u2014was he wrote back to the Lutheran church in Germany, talking about how important it is to inculcate, as early as possible, in these children, God\u2019s Word because it stays there. It never goes away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what helped us to so organically portray their faith in this movie. You know, you don\u2019t have to hit people over the head with it because they were desperate. I mean, they were little children\u2014where their families had been killed, or their cabins burned, and dragged off into the wilderness by people that were so very different than anything they\u2019d been around. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Have you been able to figure out whether Regina and Barbara are eighth cousins, once removed, or where they fit in the Leininger family tree? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> No, I haven\u2019t because we\u2019d have to go back to\u2014most of the Leiningers are from two little villages in Alsace-Lorraine. That\u2019s where they were from, and that\u2019s where we are from. So, I am sure\u2014way back there, somewhere\u2014but in order to find that out, you\u2019d have to go back to those villages, and go to the churches, and trace the ancestry all the way back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you haven\u2019t done that yet? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Just have not had the time, so far. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Jim, you mentioned this is your first movie. There is a second one coming that is in process. I\u2019m excited about it, as well. Just salt our listeners down just a little because they are going to be hearing more about this one, later on in the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, the second movie is <em>To Have and to Hold<\/em>. It\u2019s a movie based on a book by Mary Johnston. She wrote it in 1907 for the 300<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary of Jamestown. Then, it was republished in 2007 for the 400<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary. That\u2019s when we found out about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story is about Jamestown. It was a huge national bestseller, when it came out in 1907\u2014was very popular. They made a silent movie out of it. Then, they made\u2014when sound movies first came out, they made a movie, with sound on it. Then, it just kind of was lost in the 1930s; but the story is fabulous. It\u2019s a very popular story, historically, in America. It\u2019s all about the founding of Jamestown\u2014the founding of our country. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And about the fact that 300 men came to settle Jamestown. Somebody forgot to tell them that life was going to be hard here, without women. So, \u201cmaiden ships\u201d came with wives for these 300 colonists; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s the central theme of the story. When the \u201cmaiden ship\u201d arrives\u2014 and there are 2,000\u2014by 1620, there are 2,000 colonists. Ninety-five women arrive, looking for a husband; but they were, shall we say, in big demand. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For our listeners, who would like to see\u2014and again, the movie that is just, now, coming out is a movie called <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. If folks would like to see the trailer for that, they can go to our website: FamilyLifeToday.com. We\u2019ve got a link there so they can watch the film trailer. Then, if they want to know when the film is going to be coming to their city, that\u2019s on your website as well; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> If you just go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link we have there, that will take you right there. You can watch the trailer and find out when the film is coming to your community, but we hope families will go see it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do. And this is a safe movie to bring a neighbor and, perhaps, their family\u2014again, 10 and up\u2014I would think would be perfect. Again, because it shows the journey of these young ladies\u2014a journey of faith\u2014all because they listened to what their mom and dad taught them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you were talking, Jim, I was thinking about Deuteronomy, Chapter 6. It\u2019s really what the movie is all about. Verse 5 says: \u201cYou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s what this illustrates. As you illustrate it through this great movie, you give parents\u2014not merely permission\u2014but courage to hang in there, even when it feels like your kids aren\u2019t listening because if those girls hadn\u2019t listened\u2014I don\u2019t know how you are connected\u2014but you might not be here today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, seriously, Jim! I mean, you are, in essence, a part of the spiritual legacy and the generational passing of a love for Christ that, maybe, somehow is tied all the way back to those 9-, 10-, 11-year-old girls, who believed what their parents taught them about the Scriptures, and refused to fall into unbelief, but trusted God in tough circumstances. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> And they had no place else to turn but to God; but they were firmly-rooted, and they didn\u2019t want to worship the Indian gods. They wanted to be Christian. What spurred them to escape, when they did, was, when the Indians left to go to Fort Pitt, there were only two warriors left in the village to guard and defend against anybody escaping and to protect the old people and the young children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe chief\u2019s son wanted to marry Barbara Leininger. She had been pretending to be ill; and so, she was separated and put off in a long house for the sick people. The chief came to her, the day they left to go to Fort Pitt, and said, \u201cThree days after we get back, we will have a marriage ceremony,\u201d\u2014meaning: \u201cI\u2019m tired of these delays. You will marry my son.\u201d So, she knew she had to get out of there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She refused to worship\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014any other god. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> That is exactly what it came down to. I think that\u2019s portrayed well in the movie, and their faith is the only thing they had. It\u2019s the only thing that sustained them; and if they had not had that, they\u2019d have just been lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, and that\u2019s so clear in the film. I\u2019m excited for our listeners\u2014in Atlanta, and in Raleigh, Durham, and Knoxville, and Nashville, and Grand Rapids, and Colorado Springs, and Denver, and Houston, and San Antonio\u2014who are going to get a chance to see the movie this weekend because it\u2019s opening in those cities. Then, the plan is\u2014nationwide, February 21<sup>st<\/sup>\u2014but it all depends on folks getting out to see the movie in those cities this weekend. So, we hope folks will go see <em>Alone Yet Not Alone<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story is also told in a companion book, which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Go to our website: FamilyLifeToday.com. You can get the information you need about both the book and the movie when you go there. If you\u2019d like to order a copy of the book by phone, call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. 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