{"id":302818,"date":"2013-09-23T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-09-23T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/gleaning-wisdom-from-the-proverbs\/"},"modified":"2013-09-23T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-09-23T15:00:00","slug":"gleaning-wisdom-from-the-proverbs","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/gleaning-wisdom-from-the-proverbs\/","title":{"rendered":"Gleaning Wisdom from the Proverbs"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Are you looking for some good, practical advice for living? 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She had different plans; but, as the book of Proverbs says, \u201cThere is a way that seems right to a man, but the end is destruction.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Going my own way never worked. Everything that Proverbs warns about happened to me; but I think the thing that really brought me to the end of myself, in that regard, was coming to an understanding that God is my Father. I have everything I need. If I needed something different\u2014like a husband or something else\u2014I would have that. That is up to God to decide for me. He is lovingly sovereign over my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, September 23<sup>rd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. The book of Proverbs is referred to, in the Bible, as wisdom literature. Lydia Brownback joins us today to talk about some of the wisdom she learned when she finally turned her attention to that portion of God\u2019s Word. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got a question for you, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What is your favorite Proverb?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> My favorite Proverb?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m not talking about African proverbs. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course. Now, I\u2019m trying to run through the entire book of Proverbs to isolate\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have to review it all. It will only take a few seconds\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the one that got used around our house probably more than any other Proverb. We made our kids memorize this one early, and it got repeated often: \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is the man who deceives his neighbor and then says, \u2018I was only kidding.\u2019\u201d That got used over and over again because our kids would do stuff to others and upset them: They\u2019d go: \u201cStop it!\u201d\u2014\u201cI was just kidding!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows\u2026.\u201d So, they had to memorize that and repeat it. It was one of my favorites.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did the kids ever put their hands over their ears and say: \u201cNah, nah, nah, nah. Don\u2019t say it again, Dad!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the other one. I remember my daughter, Katie, coming to me and saying, \u201cI have found my life verse.\u201d I said, \u201cWhat is it?\u201d She said, \u201cIt is here in Proverbs 6: \u201cA little slumber, a little sleep, a little folding of the hands to rest\u2026.\u201d I go, \u201cHoney, there\u2019s a verse, right after that, and it kind of fits the context because \u2018\u2026destruction will come on you.\u2019\u201d She said: \u201cI don\u2019t like that verse. I just like the first half.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She likes the sleep!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, mine is Proverbs, Chapter 1, verse 7: \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.\u201d I\u2019ve always\u2014well, I had that verse introduced to me\u2014it was kind of like a keyhole into the book of Proverbs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you understand that verse, you can better understand the entire book of Proverbs. I\u2019m going to ask our guest, on the broadcast today, before I introduce her to our listening audience. Lydia Brownback, you\u2019ve written a book about Proverbs. The book is called <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom: How the Book of Proverbs Speaks to Everything. <\/em>What\u2019s your favorite proverb out of all?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> I was listening to you two talking about that. I don\u2019t know if I can pinpoint a favorite. I love the one that you said\u2014that is the key proverb to understand all the others. I have two others. One is 4:23: \u201cGuard your heart, for out of it are the issues of life.\u201d The other is the perennial favorite of everybody, Proverbs 3:5-6\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u201cTrust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways, acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths.\u201d That seems to be everybody\u2019s favorite proverb.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you\u2014the book of Proverbs is one of my favorites. It certainly was as Barbara and I were raising our six children. It seems to even grow richer the older I get.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, there\u2019s a reason for that. Proverbs says that: \u201cFoolishness is bound up in the heart of a child\u201d [Laughter] \u201cand the rod of correction\u201d\u2014along with the wisdom of God\u2019s Word\u2014the wisdom of the book of Proverbs\u2014is a part of what drives foolishness out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell our listeners today\u2014whether you\u2019re a man or a woman\u2014this book is really a great review of what the Scriptures teach about being a wise person. Whether you woke up this morning and thought about it or not, you just need to be reminded: \u201cYou need wisdom.\u201d You and I <em>both<\/em> need wisdom for handling the issues of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I want to introduce Lydia to our audience. Lydia is from Big Orange Country\u2014that\u2019s not the University of Tennessee. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> No!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s Syracuse, New York.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Go Orange!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Go Orange! She is a writer, and a speaker, and as I mentioned, the author of the book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom<\/em>. What caused you to write this book, Lydia? What, ultimately, motivated you to pen these words?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> You know, Dennis, I think it\u2019s my own quest for practical wisdom in day-to-day life and wanting to understand how God\u2019s Word speaks into that. It drove me to Proverbs and wanting to see what wisdom really is and, \u201cHow do these biblical truths\u2014that can seem so \u201civory tower\u201d\u2014how do they come down and make sense of relationships and day-to-day life at work and all the things that everybody faces\u2014when they\u2019re raising children\u2014?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think Proverbs drew me so much. You mentioned how it was big in your house, growing up. I think about how Proverbs was written by an older generation to a younger generation. It was meant to instruct young people in the paths of practical wisdom. What we find, as we get into Proverbs, what the teachers\u2014the wise people\u2014are teaching the young people is how God has designed the world to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, it\u2019s saying that: \u201cIf you plug in \u2018A\u2019, you\u2019re going to get \u2018B\u2019. So, if you follow God\u2019s ways, these are the results for doing so.\u201d Of course, that\u2019s not a guarantee. It doesn\u2019t <em>always<\/em> work that way; but for the most part, this book of Proverbs shows us how God has designed the world to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s <em>a key<\/em> point that you brought up there because some people will read Proverbs and interpret it as a promise rather than as a precept. Explain why we need to look at this as a precept rather than a promise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Exactly. A lot of people will go there\u2014they\u2019ll point to a verse and say, \u201cThis is how my life will work. If I just do this, this is what I\u2019m guaranteed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Right. So, children grow up, and they\u2019re not walking with the Lord, and they\u2019re in all kinds of trouble\u2014people assume that Scripture isn\u2019t accurate then\u2014not reliable. That is understanding what Proverbs is about\u2014these are not promises. They are observations of how God\u2019s ways play out in day-to-day life. For the most part, in general, these are observations of what will happen\u2014that\u2019s what I mean: \u201cIf you plug in \u2018A\u2019, you\u2019re going to get \u2018B\u2019.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we have to keep that in balance with all that Scripture teaches about God\u2019s purposes in allowing us to suffer\u2014the whole theology of suffering that we see all throughout Scripture. Sometimes\u2014that\u2019s why Proverbs isn\u2019t a guarantee to the good life. You can\u2019t\u2014it\u2019s not a how-to manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> If we look at it that way, we\u2019re going to be disappointed because it\u2019s forgetting that, sometimes, God doesn\u2019t want things to go well for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Lydia, I hinted at this at the beginning of the broadcast when I introduced you. I mentioned that we all need wisdom, whether or not we woke up this morning and thought about it. We really desperately need wisdom. I just kind of want to assume nothing. Explain to our listeners the benefits of wisdom for them in everyday living.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> It really depends on how we define wisdom. We all need wisdom. There are all kinds of wisdom we can lay hold of. We can lay hold of, if we choose, the world\u2019s wisdom\u2014which isn\u2019t going to get us very far. Or we can choose to say: \u201cI want biblical wisdom. That\u2019s what I\u2019m after.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn order to lay hold of it, we have to understand what it is. That\u2019s the verse you read in the beginning: \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.\u201d In Chapter 9 of Proverbs, it flips it around and says, \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.\u201d In those two verses there, there\u2019s the link: \u201cThe fear of the Lord\u2026.\u201d\u2014that is wisdom. That\u2019s the kind of wisdom we all need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I thought about it\u2014I thought: \u201cWe come into this world not-skilled. We\u2019re not fully-trained in living life as God intended it to be lived.\u201d That\u2019s why, as you said earlier, this book, as written by a father to a son, really equips that son with the skill he is going to need to be able to live life around the major issues of life\u2014finances, circumstances, relating to the opposite sex, his or her own sexuality. This book tackles some of the great topics that human beings face over their lifetime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I think it\u2019s interesting because you contrast\u2014in the book\u2014wisdom with folly\u2014which is\u2014the book of Proverbs contrasts those two. There\u2019s a difference between wisdom and knowledge. The opposite of knowledge is ignorance; but the opposite of wisdom is foolishness or folly. So, a person, who is acting wisely, is going to be contrasted with a person who is making choices\u2014that are not ignorant choices, necessarily\u2014but foolish choices. What\u2019s at the core of whether it\u2019s wise or foolish is whether it\u2019s God-centered or whether it\u2019s self-centered; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Exactly; exactly. That\u2019s something Proverbs makes very clear. Fools can be some of the brightest\u2014in terms of intellect\u2014some of the brightest people around. So, it\u2019s not about brain power. It\u2019s about all the traits, that go into wisdom, are then applied to these practical areas of day-to-day life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of those traits of wisdom; for example are: humility\u2014that\u2019s a huge one. That\u2019s part of the fear of the Lord. It\u2019s humility to recognize that God is sovereign over everything, and we are not. It\u2019s seeing us in relation to God. That\u2019s humility\u2014and to admit that and acknowledge it. It\u2019s to reverence God and love Him. That is the foundation of the book; whereas, fools, on the other hand\u2014they want their own way. That\u2019s what it means to \u201cnot fear the Lord\u201d\u2014it means to be autonomous. It means to say, \u201cI want to do things my way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> And, you know, \u201cI know the Bible says to do it this way and other people I know are doing it the way that the Bible says, but I\u2019m going to try doing things my own way.\u201d It never works. It is the height of folly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fools think they know better than God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They think they know better than God\u2019s Word. They think that\u2014whatever their impulse is\u2014is the right impulse.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> They won\u2019t take advice; right. They refuse to take advice. They don\u2019t listen to godly counsel. They don\u2019t immerse themselves in Scripture. They\u2019re not informed by the Word of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One thing that you did\u2014in the book\u2014that I thought was really interesting\u2014you compared what the book of Proverbs does, in contrasting wisdom and folly, to a young couple walking into a jewelry store. Share that illustration with our listeners because I think this book does that. It really does contrast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Well, if you think about it, when a newly-engaged couple walks into a jewelry store to pick out an engagement ring, what does the jeweler do? The jeweler takes, out of the case, a display of diamond rings, and will take one off, and set it on a dark velvet background\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u2014usually, a black velvet background. The reason for that is that the black velvet, behind the diamond, will show the sparkle of the diamond in its full glory and radiance. That\u2019s exactly what Proverbs is doing. We see so much in there about what wise people do right next to a comparison of what fools do and what the outcome for either path is going to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWisdom makes the most sense to us when we see it in comparison to what: \u201cIf you follow this path, it\u2019s going to go well. This is what happens to fools who follow their own path. It\u2019s not going to go well; it\u2019s going to be dark.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I so like that because the assignment of a mom and a dad, even though it sounds harsh, is to really to point out to their children the way of a fool and the outcome of that life compared with\u2014again, back to your illustration\u2014to the way of a wise person and how their lives are full of peace, security, and richness because they\u2019re living life as God designed it. I think, sometimes, we kind of shy away from the word, \u201cfool\u201d or \u201cfolly\u201d, because it seems like a harsh word; but the reality is\u2014it describes how people are living today. There are real consequences for living a life of folly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> There are. I think also, on the flip side of that, is that the term, \u201cfool\u201d, can be seen as a joke. We talk about fools as court jesters in Shakespeare plays. We have April Fool\u2019s Day. It\u2019s sort of a light-hearted term in some ways. So, we use it loosely: \u201cOh, she\u2019s a fool,\u201d \u201cHe\u2019s a fool.\u201d What we should really be saying\u2014the way Proverbs uses \u201cfool\u201d is to say\u2014I\u2019m trying to think of an even stronger word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cImbecile\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> An imbecile; yes: \u201cThat person is an idiot.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Without understanding.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Without understanding, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There was a season in your life when you were a fool; wasn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Oh, there\u2019ve been <em>many <\/em>seasons when I\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There was a time, before you came to faith, when life was not about living for God for you; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Well, you know, I have to say that I became a believer as a young person; but I would say that the most foolish things I\u2019ve done, actually, were after I became a Christian. They were always times when I did the very thing we read in Proverbs not to do. That was when I wanted what I wanted when I wanted it. I decided that pursuing my own course was going to be better. I wanted the Lord, but I also wanted what I wanted and I tried to have both.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Can you give me an example of one of those times?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes. I\u2019m a single woman, and I\u2019ve always been single. That was very difficult for me, back in my 20s. I didn\u2019t understand why God wasn\u2019t giving me a husband\u2014the way He was giving all of my friends a husband. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> So, I ended up getting involved with men who weren\u2019t viable marriage candidates\u2014in terms of what the Bible would call good choices.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not godly guys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> No. I tried to make that work. I think so many young women can do that. They panic and think: \u201cI\u2019m left behind. God isn\u2019t blessing me in this area of my life. So, I\u2019ll help God out. I\u2019ll bring this guy along and make him fit the biblical model so I can marry him. Then, I can have God and have what I want.\u201d It never works. That was my area where I took steps down the path of folly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And how did you come to wisdom, out of that foolishness?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. One, it never worked. The book of Proverbs\u2014I was just reading this morning a proverb in Chapter 30. It said, \u201cThe words of the Lord always prove true.\u201d Everything it warned about\u2014everything Proverbs warns about\u2014happened to me; but I think the thing that really brought me to the end of myself, in that regard, was coming to an understanding that God is my Father. Because He has undertaken that for me, in Christ Jesus, I have everything I need. If I needed something different\u2014like a husband or something else\u2014I would have that. That is up to God to decide for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe is lovingly sovereign over my life. Once I let go of the demand that life work the way I thought it should work\u2014which is the opposite of humility\u2014to understand that the Lord is sovereign, and loving, and good\u2014He\u2019s always good! We\u2019re never going to trust Him if we don\u2019t believe He\u2019s good. The two go hand in hand. I got to that place of trust\u2014which made me realize how good He is to me. Therefore, I discovered that I have everything I need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wisdom is, ultimately, a choice\u2014and a decision to obey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have a story that you tell about Pastor Donald Gray Barnhouse and his daughter who came to ask him for something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s really cute; but it illustrates what, I think, is really the human malady here\u2014just our human condition of how we fight being obedient to what God calls us to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes. This is a great story. He was working in his study one day, preparing a sermon. His daughter\u2014I think she was a teenager at the time\u2014came in and explained to him something she wanted to do. She wanted his permission to go do whatever this activity was. She told him all about it. He listened. When she was finished, he looked at her and said, \u201cNo, I don\u2019t want you to do that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, he picked up his notes, and went back to his sermon preparation. He was startled, a few minutes later, when he looked up from his work and saw his daughter standing at the end of his desk. He had assumed she had left the room. He said, \u201cWhat are you doing?\u201d She said, \u201cDad, I\u2019m waiting for you to tell me what to do.\u201d He said: \u201cNo, that\u2019s not what you\u2019re doing. I\u2019ve already told you what I want you to do. What you\u2019re doing is you are waiting to get me to change my mind.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat is exactly what we do with God. We know what He\u2019s told us to do. We have it\u2014the Word of God, right there. Sometimes, in our own minds\u2014what we think is confusion or God is not telling us\u2014is really our unwillingness to hear it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. It reminds me of one time when Elisabeth Elliot said\u2014that people who say they\u2019re struggling with an issue: \u201cStruggling\u201d she said, \u201cis just delayed obedience.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> She\u2019s exactly right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cOh! Just another little arrow, from Elisabeth, right to the soul;\u201d you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But we don\u2019t think about this book really calling us out to take God at His Word when He does call us to humility\u2014when He calls us to seek wisdom and hearing it cry in the streets. Proverbs, Chapter 2, almost speaks of wisdom like a person. In fact, you refer to wisdom being a person, who is crying out to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes, and in Chapters 8 and 9, especially, of Proverbs, wisdom is personified\u2014which means taking on the role of human qualities\u2014and speaking to us, and telling us, calling us, drawing us\u2014and saying, \u201cCome feast at my table!\u201d We are <em>invited<\/em> to partake of wisdom. What is so <em>amazing<\/em> is that God\u2014the God of the universe\u2014Who didn\u2019t have to tell us anything about what would lead to a blessed path for us\u2014has, actually, condescended to cry out to say: \u201cCome! Find out how to get blessed!\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u2014and almost pleads with us to come and get the blessings He longs to give to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The bottom line is: \u201cEvery one of us is born in need of being trained in godly skill in everyday living.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, we\u2019re all born foolish.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We are!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. And for some of us, we had to have the rod drive it far from us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I got some spankings, growing up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you deserved them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I deserved every one of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And several that I didn\u2019t get, [Laughter] but we need to be fully-trained in living life as God designed it to be lived. This book is not an option. I heard, at some point, that Billy Graham\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re talking about the book of Proverbs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014not Lydia\u2019s book\u2014because her book is\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> My book is optional; yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I would say that every woman ought to get a copy of this and ought to consider how to apply it with her children; but I was referring back to Billy Graham starting every day reading five Psalms and one Proverb. He shared that that\u2019s how he started every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve done that in different years\u2014started my days doing that. You know, there\u2019s something about filling your mind with words of wisdom about what godly skill in everyday living really looks like. We all need it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I can imagine a lot of women who would profit from getting together with other women and looking, together, at what God\u2019s Word has to say about wisdom in the book of Proverbs. That\u2019s\u2014I know, what you had in mind, Lydia, when you wrote the book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom: How the Book of Proverbs Speaks to Everything. <\/em>We\u2019ve got copies of that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com for information on how you can get a copy of Lydia\u2019s book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom. <\/em>Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. You can also call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number. 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Then look no further than your Bible, particularly Proverbs.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-09-23.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Lydia Brownback never expected to be an unmarried woman in her 40s. She had different plans; but, as the book of Proverbs says, \u201cThere is a way that seems right to a man, but the end is destruction.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Going my own way never worked. Everything that Proverbs warns about happened to me; but I think the thing that really brought me to the end of myself, in that regard, was coming to an understanding that God is my Father. I have everything I need. If I needed something different\u2014like a husband or something else\u2014I would have that. That is up to God to decide for me. He is lovingly sovereign over my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, September 23<sup>rd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. The book of Proverbs is referred to, in the Bible, as wisdom literature. Lydia Brownback joins us today to talk about some of the wisdom she learned when she finally turned her attention to that portion of God\u2019s Word. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got a question for you, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What is your favorite Proverb?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> My favorite Proverb?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m not talking about African proverbs. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course. Now, I\u2019m trying to run through the entire book of Proverbs to isolate\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have to review it all. It will only take a few seconds\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the one that got used around our house probably more than any other Proverb. We made our kids memorize this one early, and it got repeated often: \u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is the man who deceives his neighbor and then says, \u2018I was only kidding.\u2019\u201d That got used over and over again because our kids would do stuff to others and upset them: They\u2019d go: \u201cStop it!\u201d\u2014\u201cI was just kidding!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cLike a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows\u2026.\u201d So, they had to memorize that and repeat it. It was one of my favorites.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did the kids ever put their hands over their ears and say: \u201cNah, nah, nah, nah. Don\u2019t say it again, Dad!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the other one. I remember my daughter, Katie, coming to me and saying, \u201cI have found my life verse.\u201d I said, \u201cWhat is it?\u201d She said, \u201cIt is here in Proverbs 6: \u201cA little slumber, a little sleep, a little folding of the hands to rest\u2026.\u201d I go, \u201cHoney, there\u2019s a verse, right after that, and it kind of fits the context because \u2018\u2026destruction will come on you.\u2019\u201d She said: \u201cI don\u2019t like that verse. I just like the first half.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She likes the sleep!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, mine is Proverbs, Chapter 1, verse 7: \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.\u201d I\u2019ve always\u2014well, I had that verse introduced to me\u2014it was kind of like a keyhole into the book of Proverbs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you understand that verse, you can better understand the entire book of Proverbs. I\u2019m going to ask our guest, on the broadcast today, before I introduce her to our listening audience. Lydia Brownback, you\u2019ve written a book about Proverbs. The book is called <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom: How the Book of Proverbs Speaks to Everything. <\/em>What\u2019s your favorite proverb out of all?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> I was listening to you two talking about that. I don\u2019t know if I can pinpoint a favorite. I love the one that you said\u2014that is the key proverb to understand all the others. I have two others. One is 4:23: \u201cGuard your heart, for out of it are the issues of life.\u201d The other is the perennial favorite of everybody, Proverbs 3:5-6\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u201cTrust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways, acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths.\u201d That seems to be everybody\u2019s favorite proverb.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you\u2014the book of Proverbs is one of my favorites. It certainly was as Barbara and I were raising our six children. It seems to even grow richer the older I get.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, there\u2019s a reason for that. Proverbs says that: \u201cFoolishness is bound up in the heart of a child\u201d [Laughter] \u201cand the rod of correction\u201d\u2014along with the wisdom of God\u2019s Word\u2014the wisdom of the book of Proverbs\u2014is a part of what drives foolishness out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell our listeners today\u2014whether you\u2019re a man or a woman\u2014this book is really a great review of what the Scriptures teach about being a wise person. Whether you woke up this morning and thought about it or not, you just need to be reminded: \u201cYou need wisdom.\u201d You and I <em>both<\/em> need wisdom for handling the issues of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I want to introduce Lydia to our audience. Lydia is from Big Orange Country\u2014that\u2019s not the University of Tennessee. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> No!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s Syracuse, New York.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Go Orange!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Go Orange! She is a writer, and a speaker, and as I mentioned, the author of the book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom<\/em>. What caused you to write this book, Lydia? What, ultimately, motivated you to pen these words?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> You know, Dennis, I think it\u2019s my own quest for practical wisdom in day-to-day life and wanting to understand how God\u2019s Word speaks into that. It drove me to Proverbs and wanting to see what wisdom really is and, \u201cHow do these biblical truths\u2014that can seem so \u201civory tower\u201d\u2014how do they come down and make sense of relationships and day-to-day life at work and all the things that everybody faces\u2014when they\u2019re raising children\u2014?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think Proverbs drew me so much. You mentioned how it was big in your house, growing up. I think about how Proverbs was written by an older generation to a younger generation. It was meant to instruct young people in the paths of practical wisdom. What we find, as we get into Proverbs, what the teachers\u2014the wise people\u2014are teaching the young people is how God has designed the world to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBasically, it\u2019s saying that: \u201cIf you plug in \u2018A\u2019, you\u2019re going to get \u2018B\u2019. So, if you follow God\u2019s ways, these are the results for doing so.\u201d Of course, that\u2019s not a guarantee. It doesn\u2019t <em>always<\/em> work that way; but for the most part, this book of Proverbs shows us how God has designed the world to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s <em>a key<\/em> point that you brought up there because some people will read Proverbs and interpret it as a promise rather than as a precept. Explain why we need to look at this as a precept rather than a promise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Exactly. A lot of people will go there\u2014they\u2019ll point to a verse and say, \u201cThis is how my life will work. If I just do this, this is what I\u2019m guaranteed.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Right. So, children grow up, and they\u2019re not walking with the Lord, and they\u2019re in all kinds of trouble\u2014people assume that Scripture isn\u2019t accurate then\u2014not reliable. That is understanding what Proverbs is about\u2014these are not promises. They are observations of how God\u2019s ways play out in day-to-day life. For the most part, in general, these are observations of what will happen\u2014that\u2019s what I mean: \u201cIf you plug in \u2018A\u2019, you\u2019re going to get \u2018B\u2019.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we have to keep that in balance with all that Scripture teaches about God\u2019s purposes in allowing us to suffer\u2014the whole theology of suffering that we see all throughout Scripture. Sometimes\u2014that\u2019s why Proverbs isn\u2019t a guarantee to the good life. You can\u2019t\u2014it\u2019s not a how-to manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> If we look at it that way, we\u2019re going to be disappointed because it\u2019s forgetting that, sometimes, God doesn\u2019t want things to go well for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Lydia, I hinted at this at the beginning of the broadcast when I introduced you. I mentioned that we all need wisdom, whether or not we woke up this morning and thought about it. We really desperately need wisdom. I just kind of want to assume nothing. Explain to our listeners the benefits of wisdom for them in everyday living.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> It really depends on how we define wisdom. We all need wisdom. There are all kinds of wisdom we can lay hold of. We can lay hold of, if we choose, the world\u2019s wisdom\u2014which isn\u2019t going to get us very far. Or we can choose to say: \u201cI want biblical wisdom. That\u2019s what I\u2019m after.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn order to lay hold of it, we have to understand what it is. That\u2019s the verse you read in the beginning: \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.\u201d In Chapter 9 of Proverbs, it flips it around and says, \u201cThe fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.\u201d In those two verses there, there\u2019s the link: \u201cThe fear of the Lord\u2026.\u201d\u2014that is wisdom. That\u2019s the kind of wisdom we all need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> As I thought about it\u2014I thought: \u201cWe come into this world not-skilled. We\u2019re not fully-trained in living life as God intended it to be lived.\u201d That\u2019s why, as you said earlier, this book, as written by a father to a son, really equips that son with the skill he is going to need to be able to live life around the major issues of life\u2014finances, circumstances, relating to the opposite sex, his or her own sexuality. This book tackles some of the great topics that human beings face over their lifetime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I think it\u2019s interesting because you contrast\u2014in the book\u2014wisdom with folly\u2014which is\u2014the book of Proverbs contrasts those two. There\u2019s a difference between wisdom and knowledge. The opposite of knowledge is ignorance; but the opposite of wisdom is foolishness or folly. So, a person, who is acting wisely, is going to be contrasted with a person who is making choices\u2014that are not ignorant choices, necessarily\u2014but foolish choices. What\u2019s at the core of whether it\u2019s wise or foolish is whether it\u2019s God-centered or whether it\u2019s self-centered; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Exactly; exactly. That\u2019s something Proverbs makes very clear. Fools can be some of the brightest\u2014in terms of intellect\u2014some of the brightest people around. So, it\u2019s not about brain power. It\u2019s about all the traits, that go into wisdom, are then applied to these practical areas of day-to-day life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of those traits of wisdom; for example are: humility\u2014that\u2019s a huge one. That\u2019s part of the fear of the Lord. It\u2019s humility to recognize that God is sovereign over everything, and we are not. It\u2019s seeing us in relation to God. That\u2019s humility\u2014and to admit that and acknowledge it. It\u2019s to reverence God and love Him. That is the foundation of the book; whereas, fools, on the other hand\u2014they want their own way. That\u2019s what it means to \u201cnot fear the Lord\u201d\u2014it means to be autonomous. It means to say, \u201cI want to do things my way.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> And, you know, \u201cI know the Bible says to do it this way and other people I know are doing it the way that the Bible says, but I\u2019m going to try doing things my own way.\u201d It never works. It is the height of folly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fools think they know better than God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They think they know better than God\u2019s Word. They think that\u2014whatever their impulse is\u2014is the right impulse.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> They won\u2019t take advice; right. They refuse to take advice. They don\u2019t listen to godly counsel. They don\u2019t immerse themselves in Scripture. They\u2019re not informed by the Word of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One thing that you did\u2014in the book\u2014that I thought was really interesting\u2014you compared what the book of Proverbs does, in contrasting wisdom and folly, to a young couple walking into a jewelry store. Share that illustration with our listeners because I think this book does that. It really does contrast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Well, if you think about it, when a newly-engaged couple walks into a jewelry store to pick out an engagement ring, what does the jeweler do? The jeweler takes, out of the case, a display of diamond rings, and will take one off, and set it on a dark velvet background\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u2014usually, a black velvet background. The reason for that is that the black velvet, behind the diamond, will show the sparkle of the diamond in its full glory and radiance. That\u2019s exactly what Proverbs is doing. We see so much in there about what wise people do right next to a comparison of what fools do and what the outcome for either path is going to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWisdom makes the most sense to us when we see it in comparison to what: \u201cIf you follow this path, it\u2019s going to go well. This is what happens to fools who follow their own path. It\u2019s not going to go well; it\u2019s going to be dark.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I so like that because the assignment of a mom and a dad, even though it sounds harsh, is to really to point out to their children the way of a fool and the outcome of that life compared with\u2014again, back to your illustration\u2014to the way of a wise person and how their lives are full of peace, security, and richness because they\u2019re living life as God designed it. I think, sometimes, we kind of shy away from the word, \u201cfool\u201d or \u201cfolly\u201d, because it seems like a harsh word; but the reality is\u2014it describes how people are living today. There are real consequences for living a life of folly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> There are. I think also, on the flip side of that, is that the term, \u201cfool\u201d, can be seen as a joke. We talk about fools as court jesters in Shakespeare plays. We have April Fool\u2019s Day. It\u2019s sort of a light-hearted term in some ways. So, we use it loosely: \u201cOh, she\u2019s a fool,\u201d \u201cHe\u2019s a fool.\u201d What we should really be saying\u2014the way Proverbs uses \u201cfool\u201d is to say\u2014I\u2019m trying to think of an even stronger word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cImbecile\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> An imbecile; yes: \u201cThat person is an idiot.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Without understanding.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Without understanding, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There was a season in your life when you were a fool; wasn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Oh, there\u2019ve been <em>many <\/em>seasons when I\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There was a time, before you came to faith, when life was not about living for God for you; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Well, you know, I have to say that I became a believer as a young person; but I would say that the most foolish things I\u2019ve done, actually, were after I became a Christian. They were always times when I did the very thing we read in Proverbs not to do. That was when I wanted what I wanted when I wanted it. I decided that pursuing my own course was going to be better. I wanted the Lord, but I also wanted what I wanted and I tried to have both.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Can you give me an example of one of those times?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes. I\u2019m a single woman, and I\u2019ve always been single. That was very difficult for me, back in my 20s. I didn\u2019t understand why God wasn\u2019t giving me a husband\u2014the way He was giving all of my friends a husband. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> So, I ended up getting involved with men who weren\u2019t viable marriage candidates\u2014in terms of what the Bible would call good choices.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not godly guys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> No. I tried to make that work. I think so many young women can do that. They panic and think: \u201cI\u2019m left behind. God isn\u2019t blessing me in this area of my life. So, I\u2019ll help God out. I\u2019ll bring this guy along and make him fit the biblical model so I can marry him. Then, I can have God and have what I want.\u201d It never works. That was my area where I took steps down the path of folly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And how did you come to wisdom, out of that foolishness?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. One, it never worked. The book of Proverbs\u2014I was just reading this morning a proverb in Chapter 30. It said, \u201cThe words of the Lord always prove true.\u201d Everything it warned about\u2014everything Proverbs warns about\u2014happened to me; but I think the thing that really brought me to the end of myself, in that regard, was coming to an understanding that God is my Father. Because He has undertaken that for me, in Christ Jesus, I have everything I need. If I needed something different\u2014like a husband or something else\u2014I would have that. That is up to God to decide for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe is lovingly sovereign over my life. Once I let go of the demand that life work the way I thought it should work\u2014which is the opposite of humility\u2014to understand that the Lord is sovereign, and loving, and good\u2014He\u2019s always good! We\u2019re never going to trust Him if we don\u2019t believe He\u2019s good. The two go hand in hand. I got to that place of trust\u2014which made me realize how good He is to me. Therefore, I discovered that I have everything I need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wisdom is, ultimately, a choice\u2014and a decision to obey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have a story that you tell about Pastor Donald Gray Barnhouse and his daughter who came to ask him for something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s really cute; but it illustrates what, I think, is really the human malady here\u2014just our human condition of how we fight being obedient to what God calls us to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes. This is a great story. He was working in his study one day, preparing a sermon. His daughter\u2014I think she was a teenager at the time\u2014came in and explained to him something she wanted to do. She wanted his permission to go do whatever this activity was. She told him all about it. He listened. When she was finished, he looked at her and said, \u201cNo, I don\u2019t want you to do that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, he picked up his notes, and went back to his sermon preparation. He was startled, a few minutes later, when he looked up from his work and saw his daughter standing at the end of his desk. He had assumed she had left the room. He said, \u201cWhat are you doing?\u201d She said, \u201cDad, I\u2019m waiting for you to tell me what to do.\u201d He said: \u201cNo, that\u2019s not what you\u2019re doing. I\u2019ve already told you what I want you to do. What you\u2019re doing is you are waiting to get me to change my mind.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat is exactly what we do with God. We know what He\u2019s told us to do. We have it\u2014the Word of God, right there. Sometimes, in our own minds\u2014what we think is confusion or God is not telling us\u2014is really our unwillingness to hear it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. It reminds me of one time when Elisabeth Elliot said\u2014that people who say they\u2019re struggling with an issue: \u201cStruggling\u201d she said, \u201cis just delayed obedience.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> She\u2019s exactly right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cOh! Just another little arrow, from Elisabeth, right to the soul;\u201d you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But we don\u2019t think about this book really calling us out to take God at His Word when He does call us to humility\u2014when He calls us to seek wisdom and hearing it cry in the streets. Proverbs, Chapter 2, almost speaks of wisdom like a person. In fact, you refer to wisdom being a person, who is crying out to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Yes, and in Chapters 8 and 9, especially, of Proverbs, wisdom is personified\u2014which means taking on the role of human qualities\u2014and speaking to us, and telling us, calling us, drawing us\u2014and saying, \u201cCome feast at my table!\u201d We are <em>invited<\/em> to partake of wisdom. What is so <em>amazing<\/em> is that God\u2014the God of the universe\u2014Who didn\u2019t have to tell us anything about what would lead to a blessed path for us\u2014has, actually, condescended to cry out to say: \u201cCome! Find out how to get blessed!\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> \u2014and almost pleads with us to come and get the blessings He longs to give to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The bottom line is: \u201cEvery one of us is born in need of being trained in godly skill in everyday living.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, we\u2019re all born foolish.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We are!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. And for some of us, we had to have the rod drive it far from us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I got some spankings, growing up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you deserved them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I deserved every one of them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And several that I didn\u2019t get, [Laughter] but we need to be fully-trained in living life as God designed it to be lived. This book is not an option. I heard, at some point, that Billy Graham\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re talking about the book of Proverbs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014not Lydia\u2019s book\u2014because her book is\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lydia:<\/strong> My book is optional; yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I would say that every woman ought to get a copy of this and ought to consider how to apply it with her children; but I was referring back to Billy Graham starting every day reading five Psalms and one Proverb. He shared that that\u2019s how he started every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve done that in different years\u2014started my days doing that. You know, there\u2019s something about filling your mind with words of wisdom about what godly skill in everyday living really looks like. We all need it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I can imagine a lot of women who would profit from getting together with other women and looking, together, at what God\u2019s Word has to say about wisdom in the book of Proverbs. That\u2019s\u2014I know, what you had in mind, Lydia, when you wrote the book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom: How the Book of Proverbs Speaks to Everything. <\/em>We\u2019ve got copies of that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com for information on how you can get a copy of Lydia\u2019s book, <em>A Woman\u2019s Wisdom. <\/em>Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. You can also call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number. 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We\u2019re making these two resources available if you can support the ministry with a donation of $25 or more this month. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone. Just ask for the \u201cBusyness Bundle\u201d when you get in touch with us. Or you can write a check and mail it to us. Our address is: <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, P.O. Box 7111, Little Rock, AR. Our zip code is 72223. If you do send in a donation, just ask for the \u201cBusyness Bundle\u201d when you get in touch with us. We appreciate your support. Thank you for your partnership with us, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue to talk about the wisdom found in Proverbs and how that can apply in a woman\u2019s life. 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