{"id":302798,"date":"2013-08-16T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-08-16T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide\/"},"modified":"2013-08-16T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-08-16T15:00:00","slug":"the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide\/","title":{"rendered":"The Birds and the Bees:  A Parent&#8217;s Guide"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why are we so uncomfortable talking about sex to our children?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-08-16.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"21.72M","filesize_raw":"22778377","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2815],"tags":[5211],"podcast_series":[7967],"cwp_profile":[9239],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302798","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sexual-wholeness","tag-sex-education","podcast_series-gods-very-good-design","cwp_profile-mary-flo-ridley","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302798\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302798\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"bDZE45qKE1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide\/\">The Birds and the Bees:  A Parent&#8217;s Guide<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-birds-and-the-bees-a-parents-guide\/embed\/#?secret=bDZE45qKE1\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;The Birds and the Bees:  A Parent&#8217;s Guide&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"bDZE45qKE1\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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They heard about it from their peers or from media. What about your kids? Will you be having that conversation with them? Here\u2019s advice from Mary Flo Ridley. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> It\u2019s not about doing it perfectly. It\u2019s about doing it in context of relationship. The <em>goal<\/em> is to establish a relationship with your child on this subject\u2014and so repeated conversations. Yes, that subject may come up. You may find yourself saying someday: \u201cYou know\u2014I have some regrets. There is a reason I\u2019ve been talking to you, since you were three years old, because I carried some burdens. I didn\u2019t understand what sex was all about when I was a teenager. I have such a different perspective now, and I want to share that with you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, August 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We have some thoughts for you today on how you can have effective conversations with your children about sex. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just curious, \u201cAre you glad that the days of having conversations with young kids about sex are mostly over for you; or do you kind of wish you could do it some more?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a good question! [Laughter] I really enjoyed it. I mean, was it\u2014did it create clammy hands, and anxiety, and, \u201cWhat am I going to say next?\u201d Sometimes, I punted and said, \u201cI\u2019ll talk about that later.\u201d But no, I actually kind of miss it because I think it is one of the most mysterious\u2014yet, profoundly intimate and heart-to-heart connections we can ever have with our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a guest with us who believes that, as well. Mary Flo Ridley joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Thank you. I\u2019m glad to be back! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She has written a book called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. Mary Flo speaks at kindergarten groups, parent groups, and public education groups to equip parents to engage in conversations when children are little\u2014as in three to five\u2014about the matters of the birds and the bees. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019ve spoken in both church-based audiences and in mainstream audiences. Is there a different response, or is there pushback to what you are talking about when you talk to parents who aren\u2019t going to church? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Not at all. In fact, this has actually been sort of an outreach for some churches. All parents are concerned about how they\u2019re going to handle these conversations. They may come at it from a different point of view. Some parents are more concerned about their child\u2019s health than they are about really shaping their spiritual character around this; but they are still interested and curious. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, in a public school setting, my talk is mainly about, \u201cWhat is the message you want them to have and formulate that,\u201d without the assumption that it\u2019s going to be in a biblical sense. Then, when I speak in churches\u2014then, I come with the assumption that the message that I have is the message they also want for their children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you take people to Genesis 1 and 2 in churches; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And something we talked about, just before we came on air, you pointed out in Genesis, Chapter 2, how God made them male and female; and they were naked and unashamed. Then, Chapter 3 begins with the statement: \u201cNow, the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field.\u201d And your point was? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> After that high moment of the man and the woman were both naked and unashamed, the very next verse is that about the serpent. So, we want to point our children to God\u2019s perfect design; but we want to prepare them for what is out there in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can\u2019t just live in the Garden\u2014we don\u2019t live in the Garden anymore. So, the brokenness that is in this world has affected our sexuality in a lot of ways; but I like to start out with Genesis 1 and 2. Then, eventually, get to some of the more complicated things that have been devised by that crafty one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. And I think it would do us well, as parents, to realize that the first words of the serpent were this: \u201cDid God actually say\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cdid God actually make them male and female and said it was very good? Really? Do you really believe that, as a parent?\u201d We have to come to grips with that, ourselves, as parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And I think, as you present God\u2019s very good design to your kids\u2014that\u2019s the title of the book you\u2019ve written\u2014I think they need to understand that God\u2019s design is going to face attack. The first attack is going to come from an enemy, who wants to distort whatever God has called \u201cgood\u201d. Then, the culture\u2014that is being influenced by the enemy\u2014is going to try to pull you away from God\u2019s very good design. You take the devil and the culture\u2014there\u2019s really a third force\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and that is your own flesh\u2014your own sinful predisposition that is going to be attracted to what the culture and the devil are selling. Kids have got to know, growing up: \u201cThis is God\u2019s good design, but guess what? You\u2019re going to face pressure, from inside and from outside, to try to deviate and violate this design.\u201d Aren\u2019t you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. The word, \u201cAnd they were unashamed\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t know very many people in our world who could say that the subject of sex is a subject of which they are not ashamed. Everyone is broken in some area of this. There\u2019s just a lot of brokenness in the world, and there\u2019s a lot of confusion, and distortion, and misunderstanding. So, I think parents, too, need to realize that they come into this subject with their own brokenness\u2014their own baggage. Some people have been abused. This is not a beautiful topic in their eyes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, they need to deal with some of that on their own level and try not to pass that brokenness onto their children; but to once again, take the time to refresh their own memory and make a confession\u2014talk to the Lord about it\u2014but be able to go to their children, saying: \u201cLet me point you in the direction that God <em>initially<\/em> wanted us to go in. And let\u2019s go in that direction.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I can hear a mom or a dad, right now, saying\u2014in fact, I\u2019ve heard them say this repeatedly\u2014\u201cI don\u2019t really feel qualified to talk to my son or daughter because, when I was a young person, growing up, I made all kinds of mistakes. I experimented over here. I made some errors in judgment over here. I\u2019m afraid my kids are going to ask me, \u2018Dad, did you do that before you were married?\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what the serpent does\u2014is the serpent takes the sword of the Word out of the hand of a mom or a dad by accusing them of their past failures and keeps them silent while the world is chirping, while the serpent is lying, and while the flesh is fermenting\u2014alright; you with me? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I\u2019m with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And so, what parents have got to do, <em>regardless<\/em> of your brokenness\u2014to your point, Mary Flo\u2014<em>regardless<\/em> of what you did, <em>regardless<\/em> of your mistakes\u2014you <em>have<\/em> to engage in this subject. This is not optional! Parents have got to talk to their kids because they need to hear about it from their mom and their dad, within the context of a family and a marriage that\u2019s going the distance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I could not agree with you more. Really, that voice in their mind\u2014that is telling them that they are unqualified to do it\u2014they\u2019ve got to step away from that voice and realize they are <em>uniquely<\/em> qualified for this job and that it is not about doing it perfectly. It\u2019s about doing it in context of relationship. The <em>goal <\/em>is to establish a relationship with your child on this subject\u2014and so repeated conversations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes, that subject may come up. It\u2019s not going to come up when your children are very young, but it may come up later. And they may question you and your past; and so, prepare for that. Pray about that. Think about that. You may find yourself saying, someday: \u201cYou know\u2014I have some regrets. There is a reason I\u2019ve been talking to you, since you were three years old, because I carried some burdens. I went too far, and I didn\u2019t understand what sex was all about when I was a teenager. I have such a different perspective now, and I want to share that with you.\u201d So, I think, as you build a relationship on the topic, you have credibility with your children and you can move through that. It\u2019s not as a scary as it is in your mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to put a double underline under your statement: \u201cYou don\u2019t have to do it perfectly.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget when our oldest daughter, Ashley, asked me, \u201cHow does the sperm get in there, Daddy?\u201d You know what I did? I punted! [Laughter] I said: \u201cYou know, that\u2019s a good question! I\u2019ll have an answer for you later on when we\u2019re getting away on this family vacation.\u201d [Laughter] I didn\u2019t do that perfectly. I didn\u2019t step up and handle it; but the point was I did double back, and I did have that conversation. That\u2019s the point! It\u2019s not a matter of you being the <em>rock star<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s a matter of you being an authentic parent, who is just trying to get in there, and equip, and help, and strengthen your child to have God\u2019s view of sex. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And I certainly didn\u2019t do it perfectly, either. If my children were here, they would have all kinds of stories for you; but making a stab at it is what you want to do. Having\u2014they need to hear your voice on the subject. And truthfully, on more than one occasion, I would go back and say, \u201cCan I try that again?\u201d\u2014like, \u201cI feel like I didn\u2019t make the <em>main<\/em> point.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut sometimes, what\u2019s helpful for parents is to know, \u201cWhat are the words I can use?\u201d I always tell parents, if they want to present a faith-based message, just use these three words, as you start into your conversation: \u201cBy God\u2019s design\u2026\u201d\u2014 \u201cBy God\u2019s design, a husband and a wife were <em>made<\/em> to fit together in this perfect way,\u201d or, \u201cBy God\u2019s design, there is a place where the baby grows.\u201d You can just start with that. It sort of leads you to take it off something very personal and make it all about what He made and what the purposes of His design are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to ask you about Ashley\u2019s questions to Dennis\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because you laid out for us, earlier, kind of a strategy. You start off, as a mom and a dad, with a unified one sentence: \u201cHere\u2019s what we want to communicate to our kids.\u201d For you and your husband, it was, \u201cSex is a gift from God designed for marriage.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was your simple statement. Then, step two was to begin talking about body parts\u2014start developing a vocabulary: \u201cWhat are the words you are going to use, and how are you going to work that into conversation?\u201d Step three was to talk about how reproduction happens, in terms of how the baby comes out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, I guess step four has to be: \u201cHow did the baby get in there in the first place?\u201d\u2014Ashley\u2019s question to Dennis. Is that step four? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That is actually\u2014we\u2019re going to put one more step in between birth and conception. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Good; alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. We\u2019re going to stall just a little bit. [Laughter] But the step that I like for parents to throw in there is the easiest of all. It\u2019s just pointing out His design of all living things\u2014sort of give a focus on seeds and eggs. You can do that in your backyard. You can do that in your kitchen, as you are opening an apple\u2014point to the seeds. Help them understand that, deep inside of every living thing that God made, there are seeds and eggs. So, those are the things that He uses to create the next thing just like it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith just that simple step, you now have some of the vocabulary that\u2019s helpful for explaining, \u201cHow did that sperm got in there?\u201d\u2014the fact that there is a seed inside the daddy, called a sperm; and then, there is an egg inside of the mommy. It\u2019s a logical next step. So, when they do ask that question, it\u2019s just helpful to have that information. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And if they ask that question at age four\u2014because some kids do, at age four\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Of course. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014do you answer at age four? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> At age four, I like to introduce the characters of this. If you\u2019re picking up a big book, with the name \u201csex\u201d on it,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u2014let\u2019s don\u2019t get too far into the book when they are four years old; but you can introduce the characters you want them to know\u2014that are in that book. So, you might say, \u201cSweetheart, that\u2019s a very good question,\u201d\u2014which was always my lead-in\u2014which was a stalling device. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>: A stall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Catch a breath. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Let me just catch my breath\u2014but, \u201cBy God\u2019s design, a husband and a wife were made to fit together. In this fitting together, there\u2019s this seed called the sperm, that\u2019s deep inside of the daddy. It meets with the egg, that\u2019s deep inside of the mommy. So, God uses the seed and the egg to start the baby. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith a four year old, I just use a vague term: \u201cThey fit together in a perfect way.\u201d It\u2019s just introducing the idea, but I\u2019m introducing it in the context of starting with God and His design. Then, because I want to emphasize marriage, I don\u2019t say it\u2019s a man and a woman. I name those characters as the husband and the wife. Then, it is oneness of flesh that I want them to understand. So, it\u2019s not very anatomically specific. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s one of the questions that I remember coming up\u2014because we\u2019d have those conversations. Then, at some point, our daughter or son would hear about a young woman, who was pregnant, who was not married\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and they would come running to us, \u201cHow did this happen?\u201d A miracle has occurred because: \u201cYou told me it\u2019s a husband and a wife\u2014it\u2019s a mommy and a daddy who come together. What happened?\u201d How do you handle that question? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, of course, that\u2019s going to come up. But somewhere, along the line, you try to say: \u201cThis is <em>supposed<\/em> to be between a husband and a wife,\u201d or, \u201cGod intended it to be between a husband and a wife. When we get out of some of His most specific intentions, then, we run into challenges. If that young mother is having a baby because she had sex with someone, who she wasn\u2019t married to, yet\u2014and so, she needs our extra love and compassion. She is in a difficult situation. So, how can we come alongside her, and love and care for her and that baby? But for her whole life, she will be presented challenges.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And we do have to present a truth and grace message\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014as we take this to our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Very important. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes\u2014because you can present a truth message that can leave them condemning and being self-righteous. You can present a grace message that causes them to say, \u201cOh, well, then, I guess that everything is okay.\u201d It\u2019s got to be a clear statement of: \u201cHere was God\u2019s design, but you know what? We all mess up.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cSomebody messed up here. That doesn\u2019t mean that they are bad. It just means they made a mistake, and we want to help them get back on the right track.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And let me just put a couple of exclamation points by that. Especially, as they get older\u2014into junior high, and high school, and as young adults. You have to keep bringing that same grace and forgiveness to them because what they need is a combination of a high standard but, also, to know that God does redeem us and He does help us recover from even our worst mistakes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMary Flo, you mentioned this earlier. I\u2019ve just been sitting here, kind of smiling, wanting to ask you: \u201cDo you have a most humorous moment, that occurred to you, as you raised your three to adulthood, where it was one of those clammy-hand moments that would just encourage a mom or dad, who is sitting out there, listening to us\u2014and they are going, \u2018I still don\u2019t know if I can do this. This is tough stuff!\u2019\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, I think I would say\u2014I\u2019m not sure if it was <em>humorous<\/em>, but it was uncomfortable. We had one child who asked all the questions. Then, we had another who never wanted to talk about any of this. So, that was a great challenge for me. I think it\u2019s because of the way I had first approached it with her. I took kind of the blame for that; but she\u2019s just been very challenging to talk to about these things. I think she just has a sense of modesty\u2014at least, with her mom, she does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, how\u2019d you handle it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, when we had our little getaway weekend, we invited her best friend and her best friend\u2019s mother so that we would have someone to talk to. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You were afraid\u2014if it\u2019s just the two of you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u201cIf it\u2019s just the two of us, I\u2019m going to be talking through a locked bathroom door.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of crickets. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you\u2019re talking about, like a <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> weekend, later on, when they\u2019re about to become an adolescent? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. We were very like-minded in what we were going to be talking to the girls about. I thought, \u201cI just don\u2019t think this is going to go well.\u201d And so, we did it together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You were really using the other daughter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, I was. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> To ask the questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I think it is okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a great strategy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think you have to find a way to get the right biblical knowledge into the hearts of our children, within the context of a healthy marriage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014from the mom to a daughter, or father to son, or it can be from the opposite- sex parent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and I think our kids have different personalities, like you\u2019ve said. Some are curious communicators, and others are processors and a little uncomfortable with it. But the point is\u2014whatever your child\u2019s personality is\u2014you still have the same assignment. You can\u2019t say: \u201cWell, this child was quiet. So, I just gave up on that one.\u201d No! You\u2019ve got to figure out how you\u2019re going to do this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad you said that because a lot of parents <em>do not<\/em> know how to communicate with a child who is not asking the questions. Yet, that child may be just as curious. They just don\u2019t know <em>how<\/em> to formulate the questions. For that child, I tell parents, \u201cMaybe, go at it a different way.\u201d A phrase that they might want to try is: \u201cHave you ever wondered? Have you ever wondered exactly how that baby gets out of there?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSince you got to see the kittens born, that answered some questions for you [Laughter]; but I have to tell you that, just in connection with that, our son saw kittens born. He said, \u201cSo, is that how babies are born?\u201d I said, \u201cYes!\u201d He said, \u201cExactly?\u201d I said, \u201cPretty much.\u201d So, a few days later, he came to me. He said, \u201cMommy\u2014is that really how babies are born?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, you seem bothered about this.\u201d He said, \u201cYes, did you really lick me all over?\u201d [Laughter] I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right! It\u2019s not exactly\u2026.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We skipped that step! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But here\u2019s what I want moms and dads\u2014these are great moments! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Let innocence be what it is\u2014and let the red face, the flush, the embarrassment\u2014it\u2019s <em>all <\/em>okay. It really is okay. God designed you to be the parents\u2014to engage in these conversations\u2014and the child is innocent. He\u2019s going to\u2014unfortunately, have that innocence invaded by the culture\u2014by the enemy. We just need to be in there\u2014as you said\u2014providing the right counsel, the right words. Your book, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>, is going to give them all that and some great coaching along with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to say, \u201cThanks for caring about moms and dads and helping them, maybe, over one of the highest hurdles,\u201d Bob, \u201cthat we have, as parents, and one of our most challenging assignments\u2014which is talking to our kids about the birds and the bees.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and we have already mentioned, this week, some books that help parents do that\u2014books by Stan and Brenna Jones called <em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>\u2014four books that are age-specific. You start with the one for the younger kids, and you work your way up to the ones for the\u2014I think it\u2019s for preteens or 11-, 12-, 13- year-olds; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Eleven- to thirteen-year-old is the last one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> You used these books with your kids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I used these books with my children, and I think they are wonderful. I think the pictures are very respectful, and the vocabulary is great. It\u2019s an easy resource for parents to use. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it\u2019s not a \u201cUse this tool; and then, check it off the list.\u201d It\u2019s a part of the whole conversation you have with your kids, over a lifetime. It\u2019s one component\u2014it\u2019s not the entire package. <br><br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It\u2019s a helpful tool, but you need to be able to have conversations with them. They need to hear your words and your voice, also, not just the books. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I think what parents ought to have is\u2014they ought to have a copy of your book, which is a good overview, and provides some excellent coaching around vocabulary and the process you\u2019re going to go about as you help raise your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I think you need <em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>, all the way through to the adolescent years. You also need to have <em>Passport2Purity<\/em>, which is really bigger than just the sex conversation\u2014but it is a great Friday night\/Saturday experience for a mom and her daughter or a father and his son to be able to have, again, additional conversations to prepare them for adolescence. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and obviously, the books we\u2019ve been talking about are age-specific. They are books that you read to your children during different seasons of their growing-up years. Mary Flo\u2019s book is a book for moms and dads\u2014that provides the foundation from the beginning. It\u2019s called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. You can order a copy of that book when you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can order the entire series of books, and we\u2019ll include Mary Flo\u2019s book when you do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, all details are available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or if we\u2019ve confused you and you have any questions, just call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. We\u2019ll answer any questions you have and get the resources you need sent to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we wrap things up this week, we want you to know how grateful we are for those of you who have stuck with us during the summer. Summertime is a time when some of our friends go on vacation. We don\u2019t hear from as many of our listeners during the summer as we do during the rest of the year. 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They heard about it from their peers or from media. What about your kids? Will you be having that conversation with them? Here\u2019s advice from Mary Flo Ridley. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> It\u2019s not about doing it perfectly. It\u2019s about doing it in context of relationship. The <em>goal<\/em> is to establish a relationship with your child on this subject\u2014and so repeated conversations. Yes, that subject may come up. You may find yourself saying someday: \u201cYou know\u2014I have some regrets. There is a reason I\u2019ve been talking to you, since you were three years old, because I carried some burdens. I didn\u2019t understand what sex was all about when I was a teenager. I have such a different perspective now, and I want to share that with you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, August 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We have some thoughts for you today on how you can have effective conversations with your children about sex. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just curious, \u201cAre you glad that the days of having conversations with young kids about sex are mostly over for you; or do you kind of wish you could do it some more?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a good question! [Laughter] I really enjoyed it. I mean, was it\u2014did it create clammy hands, and anxiety, and, \u201cWhat am I going to say next?\u201d Sometimes, I punted and said, \u201cI\u2019ll talk about that later.\u201d But no, I actually kind of miss it because I think it is one of the most mysterious\u2014yet, profoundly intimate and heart-to-heart connections we can ever have with our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we have a guest with us who believes that, as well. Mary Flo Ridley joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Thank you. I\u2019m glad to be back! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She has written a book called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. Mary Flo speaks at kindergarten groups, parent groups, and public education groups to equip parents to engage in conversations when children are little\u2014as in three to five\u2014about the matters of the birds and the bees. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019ve spoken in both church-based audiences and in mainstream audiences. Is there a different response, or is there pushback to what you are talking about when you talk to parents who aren\u2019t going to church? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Not at all. In fact, this has actually been sort of an outreach for some churches. All parents are concerned about how they\u2019re going to handle these conversations. They may come at it from a different point of view. Some parents are more concerned about their child\u2019s health than they are about really shaping their spiritual character around this; but they are still interested and curious. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, in a public school setting, my talk is mainly about, \u201cWhat is the message you want them to have and formulate that,\u201d without the assumption that it\u2019s going to be in a biblical sense. Then, when I speak in churches\u2014then, I come with the assumption that the message that I have is the message they also want for their children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you take people to Genesis 1 and 2 in churches; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And something we talked about, just before we came on air, you pointed out in Genesis, Chapter 2, how God made them male and female; and they were naked and unashamed. Then, Chapter 3 begins with the statement: \u201cNow, the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field.\u201d And your point was? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> After that high moment of the man and the woman were both naked and unashamed, the very next verse is that about the serpent. So, we want to point our children to God\u2019s perfect design; but we want to prepare them for what is out there in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can\u2019t just live in the Garden\u2014we don\u2019t live in the Garden anymore. So, the brokenness that is in this world has affected our sexuality in a lot of ways; but I like to start out with Genesis 1 and 2. Then, eventually, get to some of the more complicated things that have been devised by that crafty one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. And I think it would do us well, as parents, to realize that the first words of the serpent were this: \u201cDid God actually say\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cdid God actually make them male and female and said it was very good? Really? Do you really believe that, as a parent?\u201d We have to come to grips with that, ourselves, as parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And I think, as you present God\u2019s very good design to your kids\u2014that\u2019s the title of the book you\u2019ve written\u2014I think they need to understand that God\u2019s design is going to face attack. The first attack is going to come from an enemy, who wants to distort whatever God has called \u201cgood\u201d. Then, the culture\u2014that is being influenced by the enemy\u2014is going to try to pull you away from God\u2019s very good design. You take the devil and the culture\u2014there\u2019s really a third force\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and that is your own flesh\u2014your own sinful predisposition that is going to be attracted to what the culture and the devil are selling. Kids have got to know, growing up: \u201cThis is God\u2019s good design, but guess what? You\u2019re going to face pressure, from inside and from outside, to try to deviate and violate this design.\u201d Aren\u2019t you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. The word, \u201cAnd they were unashamed\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t know very many people in our world who could say that the subject of sex is a subject of which they are not ashamed. Everyone is broken in some area of this. There\u2019s just a lot of brokenness in the world, and there\u2019s a lot of confusion, and distortion, and misunderstanding. So, I think parents, too, need to realize that they come into this subject with their own brokenness\u2014their own baggage. Some people have been abused. This is not a beautiful topic in their eyes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, they need to deal with some of that on their own level and try not to pass that brokenness onto their children; but to once again, take the time to refresh their own memory and make a confession\u2014talk to the Lord about it\u2014but be able to go to their children, saying: \u201cLet me point you in the direction that God <em>initially<\/em> wanted us to go in. And let\u2019s go in that direction.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I can hear a mom or a dad, right now, saying\u2014in fact, I\u2019ve heard them say this repeatedly\u2014\u201cI don\u2019t really feel qualified to talk to my son or daughter because, when I was a young person, growing up, I made all kinds of mistakes. I experimented over here. I made some errors in judgment over here. I\u2019m afraid my kids are going to ask me, \u2018Dad, did you do that before you were married?\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what the serpent does\u2014is the serpent takes the sword of the Word out of the hand of a mom or a dad by accusing them of their past failures and keeps them silent while the world is chirping, while the serpent is lying, and while the flesh is fermenting\u2014alright; you with me? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I\u2019m with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And so, what parents have got to do, <em>regardless<\/em> of your brokenness\u2014to your point, Mary Flo\u2014<em>regardless<\/em> of what you did, <em>regardless<\/em> of your mistakes\u2014you <em>have<\/em> to engage in this subject. This is not optional! Parents have got to talk to their kids because they need to hear about it from their mom and their dad, within the context of a family and a marriage that\u2019s going the distance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I could not agree with you more. Really, that voice in their mind\u2014that is telling them that they are unqualified to do it\u2014they\u2019ve got to step away from that voice and realize they are <em>uniquely<\/em> qualified for this job and that it is not about doing it perfectly. It\u2019s about doing it in context of relationship. The <em>goal <\/em>is to establish a relationship with your child on this subject\u2014and so repeated conversations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes, that subject may come up. It\u2019s not going to come up when your children are very young, but it may come up later. And they may question you and your past; and so, prepare for that. Pray about that. Think about that. You may find yourself saying, someday: \u201cYou know\u2014I have some regrets. There is a reason I\u2019ve been talking to you, since you were three years old, because I carried some burdens. I went too far, and I didn\u2019t understand what sex was all about when I was a teenager. I have such a different perspective now, and I want to share that with you.\u201d So, I think, as you build a relationship on the topic, you have credibility with your children and you can move through that. It\u2019s not as a scary as it is in your mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to put a double underline under your statement: \u201cYou don\u2019t have to do it perfectly.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget when our oldest daughter, Ashley, asked me, \u201cHow does the sperm get in there, Daddy?\u201d You know what I did? I punted! [Laughter] I said: \u201cYou know, that\u2019s a good question! I\u2019ll have an answer for you later on when we\u2019re getting away on this family vacation.\u201d [Laughter] I didn\u2019t do that perfectly. I didn\u2019t step up and handle it; but the point was I did double back, and I did have that conversation. That\u2019s the point! It\u2019s not a matter of you being the <em>rock star<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s a matter of you being an authentic parent, who is just trying to get in there, and equip, and help, and strengthen your child to have God\u2019s view of sex. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And I certainly didn\u2019t do it perfectly, either. If my children were here, they would have all kinds of stories for you; but making a stab at it is what you want to do. Having\u2014they need to hear your voice on the subject. And truthfully, on more than one occasion, I would go back and say, \u201cCan I try that again?\u201d\u2014like, \u201cI feel like I didn\u2019t make the <em>main<\/em> point.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut sometimes, what\u2019s helpful for parents is to know, \u201cWhat are the words I can use?\u201d I always tell parents, if they want to present a faith-based message, just use these three words, as you start into your conversation: \u201cBy God\u2019s design\u2026\u201d\u2014 \u201cBy God\u2019s design, a husband and a wife were <em>made<\/em> to fit together in this perfect way,\u201d or, \u201cBy God\u2019s design, there is a place where the baby grows.\u201d You can just start with that. It sort of leads you to take it off something very personal and make it all about what He made and what the purposes of His design are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to ask you about Ashley\u2019s questions to Dennis\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because you laid out for us, earlier, kind of a strategy. You start off, as a mom and a dad, with a unified one sentence: \u201cHere\u2019s what we want to communicate to our kids.\u201d For you and your husband, it was, \u201cSex is a gift from God designed for marriage.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was your simple statement. Then, step two was to begin talking about body parts\u2014start developing a vocabulary: \u201cWhat are the words you are going to use, and how are you going to work that into conversation?\u201d Step three was to talk about how reproduction happens, in terms of how the baby comes out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, I guess step four has to be: \u201cHow did the baby get in there in the first place?\u201d\u2014Ashley\u2019s question to Dennis. Is that step four? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That is actually\u2014we\u2019re going to put one more step in between birth and conception. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Good; alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. We\u2019re going to stall just a little bit. [Laughter] But the step that I like for parents to throw in there is the easiest of all. It\u2019s just pointing out His design of all living things\u2014sort of give a focus on seeds and eggs. You can do that in your backyard. You can do that in your kitchen, as you are opening an apple\u2014point to the seeds. Help them understand that, deep inside of every living thing that God made, there are seeds and eggs. So, those are the things that He uses to create the next thing just like it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith just that simple step, you now have some of the vocabulary that\u2019s helpful for explaining, \u201cHow did that sperm got in there?\u201d\u2014the fact that there is a seed inside the daddy, called a sperm; and then, there is an egg inside of the mommy. It\u2019s a logical next step. So, when they do ask that question, it\u2019s just helpful to have that information. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And if they ask that question at age four\u2014because some kids do, at age four\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Of course. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014do you answer at age four? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> At age four, I like to introduce the characters of this. If you\u2019re picking up a big book, with the name \u201csex\u201d on it,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u2014let\u2019s don\u2019t get too far into the book when they are four years old; but you can introduce the characters you want them to know\u2014that are in that book. So, you might say, \u201cSweetheart, that\u2019s a very good question,\u201d\u2014which was always my lead-in\u2014which was a stalling device. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>: A stall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Catch a breath. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Let me just catch my breath\u2014but, \u201cBy God\u2019s design, a husband and a wife were made to fit together. In this fitting together, there\u2019s this seed called the sperm, that\u2019s deep inside of the daddy. It meets with the egg, that\u2019s deep inside of the mommy. So, God uses the seed and the egg to start the baby. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith a four year old, I just use a vague term: \u201cThey fit together in a perfect way.\u201d It\u2019s just introducing the idea, but I\u2019m introducing it in the context of starting with God and His design. Then, because I want to emphasize marriage, I don\u2019t say it\u2019s a man and a woman. I name those characters as the husband and the wife. Then, it is oneness of flesh that I want them to understand. So, it\u2019s not very anatomically specific. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s one of the questions that I remember coming up\u2014because we\u2019d have those conversations. Then, at some point, our daughter or son would hear about a young woman, who was pregnant, who was not married\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and they would come running to us, \u201cHow did this happen?\u201d A miracle has occurred because: \u201cYou told me it\u2019s a husband and a wife\u2014it\u2019s a mommy and a daddy who come together. What happened?\u201d How do you handle that question? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, of course, that\u2019s going to come up. But somewhere, along the line, you try to say: \u201cThis is <em>supposed<\/em> to be between a husband and a wife,\u201d or, \u201cGod intended it to be between a husband and a wife. When we get out of some of His most specific intentions, then, we run into challenges. If that young mother is having a baby because she had sex with someone, who she wasn\u2019t married to, yet\u2014and so, she needs our extra love and compassion. She is in a difficult situation. So, how can we come alongside her, and love and care for her and that baby? But for her whole life, she will be presented challenges.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And we do have to present a truth and grace message\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014as we take this to our kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Very important. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes\u2014because you can present a truth message that can leave them condemning and being self-righteous. You can present a grace message that causes them to say, \u201cOh, well, then, I guess that everything is okay.\u201d It\u2019s got to be a clear statement of: \u201cHere was God\u2019s design, but you know what? We all mess up.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cSomebody messed up here. That doesn\u2019t mean that they are bad. It just means they made a mistake, and we want to help them get back on the right track.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And let me just put a couple of exclamation points by that. Especially, as they get older\u2014into junior high, and high school, and as young adults. You have to keep bringing that same grace and forgiveness to them because what they need is a combination of a high standard but, also, to know that God does redeem us and He does help us recover from even our worst mistakes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMary Flo, you mentioned this earlier. I\u2019ve just been sitting here, kind of smiling, wanting to ask you: \u201cDo you have a most humorous moment, that occurred to you, as you raised your three to adulthood, where it was one of those clammy-hand moments that would just encourage a mom or dad, who is sitting out there, listening to us\u2014and they are going, \u2018I still don\u2019t know if I can do this. This is tough stuff!\u2019\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, I think I would say\u2014I\u2019m not sure if it was <em>humorous<\/em>, but it was uncomfortable. We had one child who asked all the questions. Then, we had another who never wanted to talk about any of this. So, that was a great challenge for me. I think it\u2019s because of the way I had first approached it with her. I took kind of the blame for that; but she\u2019s just been very challenging to talk to about these things. I think she just has a sense of modesty\u2014at least, with her mom, she does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, how\u2019d you handle it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, when we had our little getaway weekend, we invited her best friend and her best friend\u2019s mother so that we would have someone to talk to. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You were afraid\u2014if it\u2019s just the two of you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u201cIf it\u2019s just the two of us, I\u2019m going to be talking through a locked bathroom door.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of crickets. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you\u2019re talking about, like a <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> weekend, later on, when they\u2019re about to become an adolescent? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. We were very like-minded in what we were going to be talking to the girls about. I thought, \u201cI just don\u2019t think this is going to go well.\u201d And so, we did it together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You were really using the other daughter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, I was. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> To ask the questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014I think it is okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a great strategy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think you have to find a way to get the right biblical knowledge into the hearts of our children, within the context of a healthy marriage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014from the mom to a daughter, or father to son, or it can be from the opposite- sex parent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and I think our kids have different personalities, like you\u2019ve said. Some are curious communicators, and others are processors and a little uncomfortable with it. But the point is\u2014whatever your child\u2019s personality is\u2014you still have the same assignment. You can\u2019t say: \u201cWell, this child was quiet. So, I just gave up on that one.\u201d No! You\u2019ve got to figure out how you\u2019re going to do this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad you said that because a lot of parents <em>do not<\/em> know how to communicate with a child who is not asking the questions. Yet, that child may be just as curious. They just don\u2019t know <em>how<\/em> to formulate the questions. For that child, I tell parents, \u201cMaybe, go at it a different way.\u201d A phrase that they might want to try is: \u201cHave you ever wondered? Have you ever wondered exactly how that baby gets out of there?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSince you got to see the kittens born, that answered some questions for you [Laughter]; but I have to tell you that, just in connection with that, our son saw kittens born. He said, \u201cSo, is that how babies are born?\u201d I said, \u201cYes!\u201d He said, \u201cExactly?\u201d I said, \u201cPretty much.\u201d So, a few days later, he came to me. He said, \u201cMommy\u2014is that really how babies are born?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, you seem bothered about this.\u201d He said, \u201cYes, did you really lick me all over?\u201d [Laughter] I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right! It\u2019s not exactly\u2026.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We skipped that step! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But here\u2019s what I want moms and dads\u2014these are great moments! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Let innocence be what it is\u2014and let the red face, the flush, the embarrassment\u2014it\u2019s <em>all <\/em>okay. It really is okay. God designed you to be the parents\u2014to engage in these conversations\u2014and the child is innocent. He\u2019s going to\u2014unfortunately, have that innocence invaded by the culture\u2014by the enemy. We just need to be in there\u2014as you said\u2014providing the right counsel, the right words. Your book, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>, is going to give them all that and some great coaching along with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to say, \u201cThanks for caring about moms and dads and helping them, maybe, over one of the highest hurdles,\u201d Bob, \u201cthat we have, as parents, and one of our most challenging assignments\u2014which is talking to our kids about the birds and the bees.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and we have already mentioned, this week, some books that help parents do that\u2014books by Stan and Brenna Jones called <em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>\u2014four books that are age-specific. You start with the one for the younger kids, and you work your way up to the ones for the\u2014I think it\u2019s for preteens or 11-, 12-, 13- year-olds; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Eleven- to thirteen-year-old is the last one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> You used these books with your kids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I used these books with my children, and I think they are wonderful. I think the pictures are very respectful, and the vocabulary is great. It\u2019s an easy resource for parents to use. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it\u2019s not a \u201cUse this tool; and then, check it off the list.\u201d It\u2019s a part of the whole conversation you have with your kids, over a lifetime. It\u2019s one component\u2014it\u2019s not the entire package. <br><br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It\u2019s a helpful tool, but you need to be able to have conversations with them. They need to hear your words and your voice, also, not just the books. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I think what parents ought to have is\u2014they ought to have a copy of your book, which is a good overview, and provides some excellent coaching around vocabulary and the process you\u2019re going to go about as you help raise your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I think you need <em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>, all the way through to the adolescent years. You also need to have <em>Passport2Purity<\/em>, which is really bigger than just the sex conversation\u2014but it is a great Friday night\/Saturday experience for a mom and her daughter or a father and his son to be able to have, again, additional conversations to prepare them for adolescence. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and obviously, the books we\u2019ve been talking about are age-specific. They are books that you read to your children during different seasons of their growing-up years. Mary Flo\u2019s book is a book for moms and dads\u2014that provides the foundation from the beginning. It\u2019s called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. You can order a copy of that book when you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can order the entire series of books, and we\u2019ll include Mary Flo\u2019s book when you do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, all details are available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or if we\u2019ve confused you and you have any questions, just call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. We\u2019ll answer any questions you have and get the resources you need sent to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we wrap things up this week, we want you to know how grateful we are for those of you who have stuck with us during the summer. Summertime is a time when some of our friends go on vacation. We don\u2019t hear from as many of our listeners during the summer as we do during the rest of the year. So, we\u2019re grateful for those of you have stayed in touch with us\u2014those of you who have continued supporting the ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAppreciate our Legacy Partners, who provide monthly support for this ministry, and those of you who, from time to time, will get in touch with us and show your support by making a donation to help defray the costs of producing and syndicating this daily radio program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis month, when you make a donation, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending a two-CD set that features a conversation we had, awhile back, with Dr. Steve Farrar about what a father can do to help anchor his family in Christ for the next hundred years. We\u2019ll send you those CDs if you can make a donation today to help support this program. Simply go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone. Ask about getting a copy of the CDs on <em>Anchoring Your Family in Christ<\/em> when you call to donate. Or you can mail a donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at Post Office Box 7111, Little Rock, Arkansas. And our zip code is 72223. Arkansas, by the way, is \u201cA-R\u201d. Make sure to include a note that you\u2019d like the CDs on anchoring your family in Christ when you contact us by mail, as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend. I hope you can join us here, on Monday, when we\u2019re going to talk about how going back to school ought to include having a biblical reference library available to you. Scott Lindsey from Logos Bible Software is going to be here. 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