{"id":302797,"date":"2013-08-15T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-08-15T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education\/"},"modified":"2013-08-15T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-08-15T15:00:00","slug":"a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education\/","title":{"rendered":"A Biblical Approach to Sex Education"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Who will tell your children about the birds and the bees if you don&#8217;t?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-08-15.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.45M","filesize_raw":"23543864","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2815],"tags":[5211],"podcast_series":[7967],"cwp_profile":[9239],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302797","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sexual-wholeness","tag-sex-education","podcast_series-gods-very-good-design","cwp_profile-mary-flo-ridley","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302797\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302797\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"4MnvjYUNjK\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education\/\">A Biblical Approach to Sex Education<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/a-biblical-approach-to-sex-education\/embed\/#?secret=4MnvjYUNjK\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;A Biblical Approach to Sex Education&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"4MnvjYUNjK\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Mary Flo Ridley says, \u201cWhen a baby is born in the family, in the church, in the neighborhood\u2014that\u2019s a good time to have a conversation like this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> We used to tell our children: \u201cWe will know, right away, when the baby is born if it\u2019s a boy or a girl. How do you think we will know?\u201d\u00a0 I remember my son said: \u201cWell, because if it\u2019s a girl, she\u2019ll have a bow; and if it\u2019s a boy, he\u2019ll be wearing blue.\u201d You know, he just\u2014I said: \u201cWell, guess what? Babies are born naked. Can you believe that? And so, we\u2019ll be able to tell, right away. If the baby has these parts, then, the baby is a boy. If the baby has these parts\u2026\u2014but those are the only two choices available, and God gets to decide.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 15<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk today about how and when we begin conversations with young children about human sexuality. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I remember being in the fifth grade when the principal announced there was going to be an all-school assembly, boys only. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And so, we were\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you sniff it out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I had no idea what \u201cboys only\u201d was all about. I just knew that it was the guys getting together. My dad had tried to have a talk with me about the birds and the bees. He had used terminology that went over my head, talking about body parts that I didn\u2019t understand what that meant. We were on our way to a Cub Scout fishing trip; and I was really thinking about fishing and not about birds or bees, at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And so, when we came into the assembly and had the all-boys assembly\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is a public school? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Public school. I remember walking out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is like a hundred years ago. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with my eyes\u2014you know what? It was interesting because to do it with fifth graders was pretty revolutionary, in my day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was getting ready to say, \u201cI don\u2019t remember any all-boy assemblies.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No. And I think it was\u2014my principal was working on his PhD. I think we were the guinea pigs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014in a part of this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Today, I think this is happening with kindergartners. I think sex ed, in schools, is happening in some places, at some level, with younger and younger kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob, here\u2019s what I want moms and dads, grandparents, to hear: \u201cGod gave children to parents. He gave them to families, and not to the public school\u2014not even to the Christian school\u2014to do this kind of education.\u201d I\u2019m not saying it\u2019s wrong to do it there. I\u2019m just saying it needs to <em>first<\/em> occur with a mommy and a daddy, in the safety of a loving family, where it\u2019s taught from a <em>biblical <\/em>perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you should start the conversation early. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Absolutely. In fact, some of our listeners are getting sweaty palms, even as we\u2019re talking here. I talked to a businessman yesterday, who I\u2019ve been pressing to have a conversation like this with his son. He\u2019s having conversations\u2014okay. So, he gets it. But I challenged him to go through <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> with his son because it\u2019s a great opportunity to connect around the most intimate of all issues in life with your child. If you can talk about this, you can talk about anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and that\u2019s something that we\u2019ve encouraged parents to do when your son or daughter is 11 or 12 years old; but again, you don\u2019t start the conversation on a <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> getaway. You start when they are little kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And we have a guest on <em>FamilyLife <\/em>Today\u2014Mary Flo Ridley, who has written a book called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. It\u2019s designed for the very thing Bob\u2019s talking about; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You put together a biblical approach to sex education, starting at a very young age. <br><br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, we want parents to have the very best tools in their hands. I know parents are, like you said, \u201cSweaty palmed,\u201d and nervous and anxious about this and: \u201cWhere do I get started? What\u2019s the <em>first<\/em> thing I need to do?\u201d So, we\u2019ve just sort of given them a guide\u2014but through God\u2019s Word. We have found Scriptures that are helpful and encouraging for parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The thing that I like about what you\u2019ve done here is you\u2019ve really come at it from your experience as a mom. You had three children. You and Dave have been married for 33 years. You\u2019ve also spoken to all kinds of groups, across the country. Share with our listeners a little of what you\u2019ve done there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, actually, I started as a speaker and not as an author; but when I would speak to parents, I would walk them through a strategy of how to approach this topic with their children. They found it so helpful that, then, the books led out from that. So, it\u2019s been a way of sort of coaching\u2014I feel like I\u2019m just coaching parents through those early conversations, giving them sample conversations, and answering a lot of questions that they may have about this topic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I do come at it with a heart of a mother. I didn\u2019t take this in college. It\u2019s just that I know, as a mother of young children, what this experience is like; and Dave does, too. So, I just try to talk parents through that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s on the minds of parents. I know because I was in a meeting, here at FamilyLife, the other day, where we were finding out kind of how people came to ultimately acquire <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> to take their 10-, 11-, 12-year-old through it. You know what the number one word search was, Bob? This was really interesting\u2014\u201cbirds and bees\u201d. People are googling \u201cbirds and bees\u201d to find out what\u2019s out there\u2014\u201cWhat\u2019s available to be able to teach my son or daughter?\u201d Frankly, that could be a bit of a dangerous place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And it could be because you really don\u2019t know what you are going to find, online, obviously; but there are just not that many resources for parents of young children. Your <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> is a <em>fantastic<\/em> resource; but before that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u2014there are not very many resources\u2014but: \u201cWhere\u2019s the genesis of this? Where does it start? What is your vocabulary? What is the image that you want your children to have about sex? And how do you start to create that image in your family?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mary Flo, I just talked to a dad who went away for a weekend with a couple other dads and their sons\u2014all of them about seven years old\u2014and they were camping. But these dads had an agenda in mind. Over the course of the camping trip, one of the subjects they wanted to talk to their seven-year-olds about was pornography because they\u2019ve read the statistics. Kids are stumbling on this or being led to this at ages eight, nine, and ten. The dad told me\u2014he said: \u201cWhen the subject came up, my son got this look on his face. It was a look of just confusion and horror mixed together.\u201d He just said, \u201cDad, that\u2019s gross!\u201d He said, \u201cYou\u2019re not going to have to worry about that with me.\u201d You know, at age seven, of course, that\u2019s how he\u2019s thinking and how he\u2019s feeling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI guess I wonder when we talk about subjects, like this, with little kids\u2014there are some, that they can understand and smile about and take in\u2014there are some, that are way beyond what they are thinking and feeling; isn\u2019t there? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s absolutely true. I\u2019m glad those dads did that because, truthfully, children are being led into pornography at a <em>very<\/em> young age. It\u2019s just dropping like a rock. I was meeting with a group of family counselors. They said that is their number one problem. They are seeing kindergartners who have been exposed to pornography. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, having that talk with that son was a healthy thing\u2014just to say: \u201cIt\u2019s out there. If you ever stumble across it, let me know. It\u2019s a very toxic thing. So, don\u2019t take it lightly; but here\u2019s how you avoid it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But even a seven-year-old, who is thinking, \u201cThat just sounds gross!\u201d you still have the conversation. He can still get a picture without it becoming tantalizing to him? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, what I would encourage parents to do is to be sure that before they have the pornography conversation\u2014\u201cWhat is the picture you want them to have of sex?\u201d Start there; and then, say: \u201cThere are some patterns that don\u2019t follow God\u2019s pattern, and those are out there. But right now, I want you to hear our voice on this subject. We\u2019re going to show you exactly the purpose of sex that God had, and we\u2019re going to show you His perfect design.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know\u2014here\u2019s the thing\u2014you could do a good job of protecting your son or daughter from all the outside influences. So, you hear a statement, like you made, about <em>kindergarten pornography<\/em>\u2014\u201cHow can that be?\u201d Well, the issue is it\u2019s not just your home that\u2019s influencing your child. It is other kids\u2014that they go to kindergarten with and, later on, to school, who are showing them things. You believe parents <em>must<\/em> be responsible for shaping the moral and sexual character of their children, starting at these young ages. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. You need to connect with your children on this subject at as young of an age as they can tolerate it\u2014at a preschool level\u2014just on some very simple things so that you start the journey young. That way\u2014you know, like you just said, the school is not going to be there, later on, for that child. The school is not going to be there when they come home from a date, and they don\u2019t know if maybe something has gone a little awry. But you need to be there. So, you need to start young. That gives you a lot of credibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s so much you can do, just in small conversations, along the way\u2014just planting little seeds, filling their sponge, making sure that they are hearing what you have to say. So, you say it quite a few times. You talk about some of the simple things of God\u2019s design. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Such as? Let\u2019s say I\u2019ve got a three- or four-year-old. We\u2019re right at the very beginning. I mean, I\u2019m remembering back to those days and thinking, \u201cOkay, we talked about private parts.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was one of those conversations, but that was more around protection than it was around understanding God\u2019s good design. So, what kinds of things do I say to a three- or four-year-old? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, before you have that conversation, you need to have a really strong message that you want your children to have. It\u2019s sort of an overarching idea: \u201cWhat is the image that you hope your children have about sex because they grew up in your family? What does that image reflect? What is the design? What is the purpose? Why did God create sex?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor Dave and me, our message was that we wanted them to grow up, understanding that sex is a gift from God for marriage. We like parents to write just one simple sentence about this topic. We wanted that to be the message because we wanted them to understand the beauty and the boundaries. Those were going to be the two things we were going to talk about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, before you ever even have a conversation, I just can\u2019t tell you the benefit you will get from making sort of a mission statement: \u201cHere\u2019s what we want our children, to grow up, knowing sex is all about.\u201d We know the culture has a different message, but what\u2019s your message? Have it be something you are very passionate about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You are taking your son or daughter back to the origins of where sex was created, originally. It was created by God to reflect His image: Genesis, Chapter 1, \u201cIn the image of God, He made them male and female\u2014created He them.\u201d So, you take it back to the God of love\u2014the God of giving good gifts\u2014and you tie it to Him. That creates the wholesome approach to sex being something that is celebrated\u2014as you mentioned\u2014in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I think the anchor of having it be in God\u2019s Word and by His design\u2014I used to sort of laugh about it. I would say: \u201cI\u2019m just blaming all of this on God\u2014like He came up with this. We didn\u2019t think of it. We didn\u2019t invite it. So, let\u2019s lay it at His feet and say, \u2018God, this was your idea.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, even when you get into Genesis 2, when it says, \u201cAnd they were naked and unashamed\u201d\u2014and yet, we carry a lot of shame about how we\u2019re going to talk about this to our children, when He is, already, in the very first book of Genesis\u2014He\u2019s already laid out for us: \u201cHere\u2019s how it happens. They\u2019re male and female.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, when you do have a three-year-old, what is the vocabulary that you use to distinguish between male and female? That\u2019s an important step for parents. Is it a silly, wingy-wangy word that you are using? Or is it is just the word, \u201cprivates\u201d? Or is it more of a medical word? And \u201cprivates\u201d can be a very respectful way; but then, you need to further define that for which privates are males and which privates are female. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And would you coach a mom or a dad to be medically-specific and start using those words? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, I would. I would tell them they can be interchangeable with the more generic word like \u201cprivates\u201d just because of manners\u2014sort of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> You know, when you\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m imagining a child at Wal-Mart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, and that would be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014pointing to a boy and saying, \u201cHe has a\u2026.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> So, we kind of\u2014I mean, I\u2019m just telling you my point of view. But yes, I think this generation of young parents is much more okay with all of that than maybe generations in the past. They are fine with that. But I think letting them know that there is also safety concern that they need to know that part of their body, specifically. So, I do encourage parents to use those words early so that it\u2019s not such a strange word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Teach a boy about what he has, but also teach him how girls are different and explain the body parts that are different for them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. And they\u2019re learning about ankles, and knuckles, and freckles. Every word sounds funny to them. So, when they are little, just introduce those words, also. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing that\u2019s important is not just the words you use but, \u201cAre you speaking respectfully?\u201d Every person has been made in God\u2019s image. Are we being high-minded about how we speak of anyone\u2019s body? Everyone\u2019s body should be spoken of in respectful tones\u2014so, setting a tone in your home for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And when your three-year-old\u2014when you explain, \u201cBoys have these body parts, and girls have these body parts,\u201d and then, they say, \u201cWell, why?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u201cBecause, by God\u2019s design, He decided who would be a boy and who would be a girl.\u201d In fact, we used to tell our children: \u201cWe will know, right away, when the baby is born, if it\u2019s a boy or a girl. How do you think we\u2019ll know?\u201d I remember my son said, \u201cWell, because if it\u2019s a girl, she\u2019ll have a bow. If it\u2019s a boy, he\u2019ll be wearing blue.\u201d You know, he just\u2014I said: \u201cWell, guess what? Babies are born naked. Can you believe that?\u201d \u201cNo.\u201d \u201cYes. So, we\u2019ll be able to tell, right away. If the baby has these parts, then, the baby is a boy; if the baby has these parts\u2014but those are the only two choices available. And God gets to decide.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you don\u2019t get into reproduction, at that point, with a three-year-old \/ a four-year-old\u2014that the body parts are different because they have different reproductive functions? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, actually, as young as three and four, children are going to start to ask, \u201cHow does that baby get out of there?\u201d And so, we do. That is, actually, kind of the third step\u2014so, thanks for bringing that up. So, we\u2019ve got our\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have the steps in order, then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Okay! No, you do. You do because\u2014well, we\u2019ve talked about, \u201cWhat\u2019s your message?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. That\u2019s step one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And that\u2019s really step one. \u201cWhat\u2019s your vocabulary,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s step two. And then, the third step is, \u201cHow are you going to answer that question?\u201d \u201cSo, how does that baby get out of there?\u201d Because even though we know conception comes before birth, children are, usually, first curious about birth and, then, curious about conception. So, we\u2019re following their\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They want to know how it got out before they find out how it got in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got you. I\u2019ve got you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> So, they give us the easier story first. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Speaking of that, I don\u2019t know that I\u2019ve ever shared this story, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; but I think I recall my first introduction to the birds and the bees, as a little boy, growing up. I was sick and didn\u2019t go to school one day when I was in elementary school. It had to be first or second grade. We had a kitty cat who had, evidently, been promiscuous and\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There\u2019s not another tomcat in the home? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There was not. I was there in the living room\u2014and I don\u2019t know why my mom allowed this to occur\u2014but she had the mother-to-be in a basket, having these kittens. I was lying on the couch\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you don\u2019t know why she allowed that to occur? I mean, there\u2019s not much she could have done to stop that from occurring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, it could have had happened outside\u2014maybe, it was cold. I don\u2019t know. But I just remember, as a boy, going, \u201cThat\u2019s really interesting.\u201d You just kind of went, \u201cNow, how did all that happen?\u201d You know? And there was no education. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There was no context. What I like about what you are really charging parents with, Mary Flo, is to say, you know: \u201cSeize these moments. These are teachable moments to take children all the way back to the beginning\u2014the book of beginnings\u2014Genesis\u2014and back to God, who designed them male and female and let them know it is good! It\u2019s wholesome. It really is God\u2019s creative design and that sex is intended for marriage.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It\u2019s as simple as that. It\u2019s actually easier to talk to a young child about these things than it is once the hormones kick in. Explaining how life works is what you do, as a parent, anyway. We\u2019ve just set that one aside, for some reason, for later because we think it\u2019s so complicated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t equate this information with the Gospel; but we don\u2019t wait until our children are\u00a0 old enough to really discuss the evidence of justification to introduce them to idea that Jesus loves them. We start with some of the simple things that their young minds can understand. Then, we grow in those conversations, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want parents to hear is: \u201cThis is not like a vaccination, where you get a shot and that takes care of it. In fact, you are going to have to have booster shots, along the way, to reinforce the vaccine that you give children as you begin to unpack what sex is all about\u2014all the way through the grade-school years.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, moms, dads, I know you don\u2019t want to hear this from us; but it\u2019s not a matter of <em>if<\/em> your son or daughter is going to see pornography\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014it\u2019s a matter of how much, and how soon, and how you engage them in the conversation to find out what they\u2019ve seen so that perhaps you can take some of the distortion out the picture and, once again, take them back to the Bible, and back to God, and say: \u201cThis is God\u2019s idea. Man has twisted it and turns it into something that really isn\u2019t good. But with God, this is very good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just ask this one question about\u2014because we have a lot of parents who have adopted sons and daughters. So, when you are dealing with this subject, around human reproduction, the question is going to come up about their origin\u2014any coaching, for parents, in that regard? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. There\u2019s a little bit more to tell of the story. Children are still, at a young age, curious about the birth process. I think you can explain\u2014they even, as adoptive children, will want to know: \u201cWhy is that my birth mother? What is birth?\u201d They want to know what that means. So, explaining birth to them is an important part of their upbringing, also, and just keeping to the mechanics\u2014maybe, not a personal story; but maybe, a personal story. It depends from family to family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you\u2019ll want to explain birth to them. Then, your unique story about how you came to want an adopted child\u2014maybe, God just placed that on your heart or, maybe, there were some infertility issues\u2014and, then, some of the story of the birth mother, if that\u2019s what they are going to be sharing. So, it\u2019s your story and their story that helps create this child\u2019s special story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Over the years, we\u2019ve had people ask us, \u201cHow do I go about in an age- specific manner of instructing my children?\u201d There is this book series\u2014<em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>. What I\u2019d like to recommend for parents: \u201cIf you order that complete set from us, here at FamilyLife, we\u2019ll throw in a copy of your book, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>\u201d, because what your book does is a great overview for beginning the instruction with a child. Then, what this other series does\u2014is give you a lot more to be able to unpack, with your child, around an age-specific stage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, Mary Flo\u2019s book is designed for a mom and dad to read to get a strategy put together\u2014to have a plan ready to go. Then, the books that you\u2019re talking about that Stan and Brenna Jones have written together are books designed to be read to a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mom and Dad read it together to a child. So, it can be part of the strategy. In fact, you recommend it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I highly recommend it. I think, for some parents, it\u2019s a helpful tool to sit down with a book; but parents also need to be aware of what they are going to say on their own because the books are not always with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And it\u2019s <em>not<\/em>, \u201cRead a book; check it off; you\u2019re done.\u201d [It is,] \u201cRead a book, and keep having conversations over and over again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you go to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014on our website, we\u2019ve got information about Mary Flo Ridley\u2019s book for parents, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>, and the series of books that we\u2019ve been talking about from Stan and Brenna Jones. Again, FamilyLifeToday.com is our website. You\u2019ll find all the information you need about these resources there. There is also information about Mary Flo\u2019s <em>Simple Truths<\/em> series that we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center, as well. Again, you\u2019ll find all the information on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call for more information at 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d\u20141-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are very grateful for those of you who have stayed with us during summer vacation. You know, when summertime comes along, schedules get a little different; and sometimes, the things that are a part of your routine during the school year just get put aside for the summer. We\u2019re grateful for those of you who have continued to listen during the summer months and for those of you who have continued to support the ministry this summer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMinistries, like ours, often experience a decline in donations during the summer; and we\u2019re grateful for those of you who have stayed faithful\u2014Legacy Partners, who have continued to donate throughout the summer\u2014and those of you, who have contacted us, from time to time, to make a donation and show your support for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We appreciate you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis month, if you can make a donation to help us defray the costs of producing and syndicating this program, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a two-CD set of a conversation we had with Steve Farrar about what a father can do to anchor his family in Christ for the next hundred years. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. 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Mary Flo Ridley says, \u201cWhen a baby is born in the family, in the church, in the neighborhood\u2014that\u2019s a good time to have a conversation like this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> We used to tell our children: \u201cWe will know, right away, when the baby is born if it\u2019s a boy or a girl. How do you think we will know?\u201d\u00a0 I remember my son said: \u201cWell, because if it\u2019s a girl, she\u2019ll have a bow; and if it\u2019s a boy, he\u2019ll be wearing blue.\u201d You know, he just\u2014I said: \u201cWell, guess what? Babies are born naked. Can you believe that? And so, we\u2019ll be able to tell, right away. If the baby has these parts, then, the baby is a boy. If the baby has these parts\u2026\u2014but those are the only two choices available, and God gets to decide.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 15<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk today about how and when we begin conversations with young children about human sexuality. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I remember being in the fifth grade when the principal announced there was going to be an all-school assembly, boys only. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And so, we were\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you sniff it out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I had no idea what \u201cboys only\u201d was all about. I just knew that it was the guys getting together. My dad had tried to have a talk with me about the birds and the bees. He had used terminology that went over my head, talking about body parts that I didn\u2019t understand what that meant. We were on our way to a Cub Scout fishing trip; and I was really thinking about fishing and not about birds or bees, at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And so, when we came into the assembly and had the all-boys assembly\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is a public school? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Public school. I remember walking out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is like a hundred years ago. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with my eyes\u2014you know what? It was interesting because to do it with fifth graders was pretty revolutionary, in my day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was getting ready to say, \u201cI don\u2019t remember any all-boy assemblies.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No. And I think it was\u2014my principal was working on his PhD. I think we were the guinea pigs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014in a part of this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Got it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Today, I think this is happening with kindergartners. I think sex ed, in schools, is happening in some places, at some level, with younger and younger kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob, here\u2019s what I want moms and dads, grandparents, to hear: \u201cGod gave children to parents. He gave them to families, and not to the public school\u2014not even to the Christian school\u2014to do this kind of education.\u201d I\u2019m not saying it\u2019s wrong to do it there. I\u2019m just saying it needs to <em>first<\/em> occur with a mommy and a daddy, in the safety of a loving family, where it\u2019s taught from a <em>biblical <\/em>perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you should start the conversation early. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Absolutely. In fact, some of our listeners are getting sweaty palms, even as we\u2019re talking here. I talked to a businessman yesterday, who I\u2019ve been pressing to have a conversation like this with his son. He\u2019s having conversations\u2014okay. So, he gets it. But I challenged him to go through <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> with his son because it\u2019s a great opportunity to connect around the most intimate of all issues in life with your child. If you can talk about this, you can talk about anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, and that\u2019s something that we\u2019ve encouraged parents to do when your son or daughter is 11 or 12 years old; but again, you don\u2019t start the conversation on a <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> getaway. You start when they are little kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And we have a guest on <em>FamilyLife <\/em>Today\u2014Mary Flo Ridley, who has written a book called <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>. It\u2019s designed for the very thing Bob\u2019s talking about; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You put together a biblical approach to sex education, starting at a very young age. <br><br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, we want parents to have the very best tools in their hands. I know parents are, like you said, \u201cSweaty palmed,\u201d and nervous and anxious about this and: \u201cWhere do I get started? What\u2019s the <em>first<\/em> thing I need to do?\u201d So, we\u2019ve just sort of given them a guide\u2014but through God\u2019s Word. We have found Scriptures that are helpful and encouraging for parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The thing that I like about what you\u2019ve done here is you\u2019ve really come at it from your experience as a mom. You had three children. You and Dave have been married for 33 years. You\u2019ve also spoken to all kinds of groups, across the country. Share with our listeners a little of what you\u2019ve done there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, actually, I started as a speaker and not as an author; but when I would speak to parents, I would walk them through a strategy of how to approach this topic with their children. They found it so helpful that, then, the books led out from that. So, it\u2019s been a way of sort of coaching\u2014I feel like I\u2019m just coaching parents through those early conversations, giving them sample conversations, and answering a lot of questions that they may have about this topic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I do come at it with a heart of a mother. I didn\u2019t take this in college. It\u2019s just that I know, as a mother of young children, what this experience is like; and Dave does, too. So, I just try to talk parents through that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s on the minds of parents. I know because I was in a meeting, here at FamilyLife, the other day, where we were finding out kind of how people came to ultimately acquire <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> to take their 10-, 11-, 12-year-old through it. You know what the number one word search was, Bob? This was really interesting\u2014\u201cbirds and bees\u201d. People are googling \u201cbirds and bees\u201d to find out what\u2019s out there\u2014\u201cWhat\u2019s available to be able to teach my son or daughter?\u201d Frankly, that could be a bit of a dangerous place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And it could be because you really don\u2019t know what you are going to find, online, obviously; but there are just not that many resources for parents of young children. Your <em>Passport2Purity<\/em> is a <em>fantastic<\/em> resource; but before that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u2014there are not very many resources\u2014but: \u201cWhere\u2019s the genesis of this? Where does it start? What is your vocabulary? What is the image that you want your children to have about sex? And how do you start to create that image in your family?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mary Flo, I just talked to a dad who went away for a weekend with a couple other dads and their sons\u2014all of them about seven years old\u2014and they were camping. But these dads had an agenda in mind. Over the course of the camping trip, one of the subjects they wanted to talk to their seven-year-olds about was pornography because they\u2019ve read the statistics. Kids are stumbling on this or being led to this at ages eight, nine, and ten. The dad told me\u2014he said: \u201cWhen the subject came up, my son got this look on his face. It was a look of just confusion and horror mixed together.\u201d He just said, \u201cDad, that\u2019s gross!\u201d He said, \u201cYou\u2019re not going to have to worry about that with me.\u201d You know, at age seven, of course, that\u2019s how he\u2019s thinking and how he\u2019s feeling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI guess I wonder when we talk about subjects, like this, with little kids\u2014there are some, that they can understand and smile about and take in\u2014there are some, that are way beyond what they are thinking and feeling; isn\u2019t there? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s absolutely true. I\u2019m glad those dads did that because, truthfully, children are being led into pornography at a <em>very<\/em> young age. It\u2019s just dropping like a rock. I was meeting with a group of family counselors. They said that is their number one problem. They are seeing kindergartners who have been exposed to pornography. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, having that talk with that son was a healthy thing\u2014just to say: \u201cIt\u2019s out there. If you ever stumble across it, let me know. It\u2019s a very toxic thing. So, don\u2019t take it lightly; but here\u2019s how you avoid it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But even a seven-year-old, who is thinking, \u201cThat just sounds gross!\u201d you still have the conversation. He can still get a picture without it becoming tantalizing to him? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, what I would encourage parents to do is to be sure that before they have the pornography conversation\u2014\u201cWhat is the picture you want them to have of sex?\u201d Start there; and then, say: \u201cThere are some patterns that don\u2019t follow God\u2019s pattern, and those are out there. But right now, I want you to hear our voice on this subject. We\u2019re going to show you exactly the purpose of sex that God had, and we\u2019re going to show you His perfect design.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know\u2014here\u2019s the thing\u2014you could do a good job of protecting your son or daughter from all the outside influences. So, you hear a statement, like you made, about <em>kindergarten pornography<\/em>\u2014\u201cHow can that be?\u201d Well, the issue is it\u2019s not just your home that\u2019s influencing your child. It is other kids\u2014that they go to kindergarten with and, later on, to school, who are showing them things. You believe parents <em>must<\/em> be responsible for shaping the moral and sexual character of their children, starting at these young ages. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. You need to connect with your children on this subject at as young of an age as they can tolerate it\u2014at a preschool level\u2014just on some very simple things so that you start the journey young. That way\u2014you know, like you just said, the school is not going to be there, later on, for that child. The school is not going to be there when they come home from a date, and they don\u2019t know if maybe something has gone a little awry. But you need to be there. So, you need to start young. That gives you a lot of credibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s so much you can do, just in small conversations, along the way\u2014just planting little seeds, filling their sponge, making sure that they are hearing what you have to say. So, you say it quite a few times. You talk about some of the simple things of God\u2019s design. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Such as? Let\u2019s say I\u2019ve got a three- or four-year-old. We\u2019re right at the very beginning. I mean, I\u2019m remembering back to those days and thinking, \u201cOkay, we talked about private parts.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That was one of those conversations, but that was more around protection than it was around understanding God\u2019s good design. So, what kinds of things do I say to a three- or four-year-old? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, before you have that conversation, you need to have a really strong message that you want your children to have. It\u2019s sort of an overarching idea: \u201cWhat is the image that you hope your children have about sex because they grew up in your family? What does that image reflect? What is the design? What is the purpose? Why did God create sex?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor Dave and me, our message was that we wanted them to grow up, understanding that sex is a gift from God for marriage. We like parents to write just one simple sentence about this topic. We wanted that to be the message because we wanted them to understand the beauty and the boundaries. Those were going to be the two things we were going to talk about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, before you ever even have a conversation, I just can\u2019t tell you the benefit you will get from making sort of a mission statement: \u201cHere\u2019s what we want our children, to grow up, knowing sex is all about.\u201d We know the culture has a different message, but what\u2019s your message? Have it be something you are very passionate about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You are taking your son or daughter back to the origins of where sex was created, originally. It was created by God to reflect His image: Genesis, Chapter 1, \u201cIn the image of God, He made them male and female\u2014created He them.\u201d So, you take it back to the God of love\u2014the God of giving good gifts\u2014and you tie it to Him. That creates the wholesome approach to sex being something that is celebrated\u2014as you mentioned\u2014in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I think the anchor of having it be in God\u2019s Word and by His design\u2014I used to sort of laugh about it. I would say: \u201cI\u2019m just blaming all of this on God\u2014like He came up with this. We didn\u2019t think of it. We didn\u2019t invite it. So, let\u2019s lay it at His feet and say, \u2018God, this was your idea.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, even when you get into Genesis 2, when it says, \u201cAnd they were naked and unashamed\u201d\u2014and yet, we carry a lot of shame about how we\u2019re going to talk about this to our children, when He is, already, in the very first book of Genesis\u2014He\u2019s already laid out for us: \u201cHere\u2019s how it happens. They\u2019re male and female.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, when you do have a three-year-old, what is the vocabulary that you use to distinguish between male and female? That\u2019s an important step for parents. Is it a silly, wingy-wangy word that you are using? Or is it is just the word, \u201cprivates\u201d? Or is it more of a medical word? And \u201cprivates\u201d can be a very respectful way; but then, you need to further define that for which privates are males and which privates are female. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And would you coach a mom or a dad to be medically-specific and start using those words? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, I would. I would tell them they can be interchangeable with the more generic word like \u201cprivates\u201d just because of manners\u2014sort of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> You know, when you\u2019re\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m imagining a child at Wal-Mart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes, and that would be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014pointing to a boy and saying, \u201cHe has a\u2026.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> So, we kind of\u2014I mean, I\u2019m just telling you my point of view. But yes, I think this generation of young parents is much more okay with all of that than maybe generations in the past. They are fine with that. But I think letting them know that there is also safety concern that they need to know that part of their body, specifically. So, I do encourage parents to use those words early so that it\u2019s not such a strange word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Teach a boy about what he has, but also teach him how girls are different and explain the body parts that are different for them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. And they\u2019re learning about ankles, and knuckles, and freckles. Every word sounds funny to them. So, when they are little, just introduce those words, also. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing that\u2019s important is not just the words you use but, \u201cAre you speaking respectfully?\u201d Every person has been made in God\u2019s image. Are we being high-minded about how we speak of anyone\u2019s body? Everyone\u2019s body should be spoken of in respectful tones\u2014so, setting a tone in your home for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And when your three-year-old\u2014when you explain, \u201cBoys have these body parts, and girls have these body parts,\u201d and then, they say, \u201cWell, why?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> \u201cBecause, by God\u2019s design, He decided who would be a boy and who would be a girl.\u201d In fact, we used to tell our children: \u201cWe will know, right away, when the baby is born, if it\u2019s a boy or a girl. How do you think we\u2019ll know?\u201d I remember my son said, \u201cWell, because if it\u2019s a girl, she\u2019ll have a bow. If it\u2019s a boy, he\u2019ll be wearing blue.\u201d You know, he just\u2014I said: \u201cWell, guess what? Babies are born naked. Can you believe that?\u201d \u201cNo.\u201d \u201cYes. So, we\u2019ll be able to tell, right away. If the baby has these parts, then, the baby is a boy; if the baby has these parts\u2014but those are the only two choices available. And God gets to decide.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you don\u2019t get into reproduction, at that point, with a three-year-old \/ a four-year-old\u2014that the body parts are different because they have different reproductive functions? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Well, actually, as young as three and four, children are going to start to ask, \u201cHow does that baby get out of there?\u201d And so, we do. That is, actually, kind of the third step\u2014so, thanks for bringing that up. So, we\u2019ve got our\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have the steps in order, then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Okay! No, you do. You do because\u2014well, we\u2019ve talked about, \u201cWhat\u2019s your message?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. That\u2019s step one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> And that\u2019s really step one. \u201cWhat\u2019s your vocabulary,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s step two. And then, the third step is, \u201cHow are you going to answer that question?\u201d \u201cSo, how does that baby get out of there?\u201d Because even though we know conception comes before birth, children are, usually, first curious about birth and, then, curious about conception. So, we\u2019re following their\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They want to know how it got out before they find out how it got in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got you. I\u2019ve got you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> So, they give us the easier story first. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Speaking of that, I don\u2019t know that I\u2019ve ever shared this story, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; but I think I recall my first introduction to the birds and the bees, as a little boy, growing up. I was sick and didn\u2019t go to school one day when I was in elementary school. It had to be first or second grade. We had a kitty cat who had, evidently, been promiscuous and\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There\u2019s not another tomcat in the home? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There was not. I was there in the living room\u2014and I don\u2019t know why my mom allowed this to occur\u2014but she had the mother-to-be in a basket, having these kittens. I was lying on the couch\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you don\u2019t know why she allowed that to occur? I mean, there\u2019s not much she could have done to stop that from occurring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, it could have had happened outside\u2014maybe, it was cold. I don\u2019t know. But I just remember, as a boy, going, \u201cThat\u2019s really interesting.\u201d You just kind of went, \u201cNow, how did all that happen?\u201d You know? And there was no education. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There was no context. What I like about what you are really charging parents with, Mary Flo, is to say, you know: \u201cSeize these moments. These are teachable moments to take children all the way back to the beginning\u2014the book of beginnings\u2014Genesis\u2014and back to God, who designed them male and female and let them know it is good! It\u2019s wholesome. It really is God\u2019s creative design and that sex is intended for marriage.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It\u2019s as simple as that. It\u2019s actually easier to talk to a young child about these things than it is once the hormones kick in. Explaining how life works is what you do, as a parent, anyway. We\u2019ve just set that one aside, for some reason, for later because we think it\u2019s so complicated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t equate this information with the Gospel; but we don\u2019t wait until our children are\u00a0 old enough to really discuss the evidence of justification to introduce them to idea that Jesus loves them. We start with some of the simple things that their young minds can understand. Then, we grow in those conversations, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want parents to hear is: \u201cThis is not like a vaccination, where you get a shot and that takes care of it. In fact, you are going to have to have booster shots, along the way, to reinforce the vaccine that you give children as you begin to unpack what sex is all about\u2014all the way through the grade-school years.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, moms, dads, I know you don\u2019t want to hear this from us; but it\u2019s not a matter of <em>if<\/em> your son or daughter is going to see pornography\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014it\u2019s a matter of how much, and how soon, and how you engage them in the conversation to find out what they\u2019ve seen so that perhaps you can take some of the distortion out the picture and, once again, take them back to the Bible, and back to God, and say: \u201cThis is God\u2019s idea. Man has twisted it and turns it into something that really isn\u2019t good. But with God, this is very good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just ask this one question about\u2014because we have a lot of parents who have adopted sons and daughters. So, when you are dealing with this subject, around human reproduction, the question is going to come up about their origin\u2014any coaching, for parents, in that regard? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> Yes. There\u2019s a little bit more to tell of the story. Children are still, at a young age, curious about the birth process. I think you can explain\u2014they even, as adoptive children, will want to know: \u201cWhy is that my birth mother? What is birth?\u201d They want to know what that means. So, explaining birth to them is an important part of their upbringing, also, and just keeping to the mechanics\u2014maybe, not a personal story; but maybe, a personal story. It depends from family to family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you\u2019ll want to explain birth to them. Then, your unique story about how you came to want an adopted child\u2014maybe, God just placed that on your heart or, maybe, there were some infertility issues\u2014and, then, some of the story of the birth mother, if that\u2019s what they are going to be sharing. So, it\u2019s your story and their story that helps create this child\u2019s special story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Over the years, we\u2019ve had people ask us, \u201cHow do I go about in an age- specific manner of instructing my children?\u201d There is this book series\u2014<em>God\u2019s Design for Sex<\/em>. What I\u2019d like to recommend for parents: \u201cIf you order that complete set from us, here at FamilyLife, we\u2019ll throw in a copy of your book, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>\u201d, because what your book does is a great overview for beginning the instruction with a child. Then, what this other series does\u2014is give you a lot more to be able to unpack, with your child, around an age-specific stage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, Mary Flo\u2019s book is designed for a mom and dad to read to get a strategy put together\u2014to have a plan ready to go. Then, the books that you\u2019re talking about that Stan and Brenna Jones have written together are books designed to be read to a child. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mom and Dad read it together to a child. So, it can be part of the strategy. In fact, you recommend it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mary Flo:<\/strong> I highly recommend it. I think, for some parents, it\u2019s a helpful tool to sit down with a book; but parents also need to be aware of what they are going to say on their own because the books are not always with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No doubt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. And it\u2019s <em>not<\/em>, \u201cRead a book; check it off; you\u2019re done.\u201d [It is,] \u201cRead a book, and keep having conversations over and over again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you go to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014on our website, we\u2019ve got information about Mary Flo Ridley\u2019s book for parents, <em>God\u2019s Very Good Design<\/em>, and the series of books that we\u2019ve been talking about from Stan and Brenna Jones. Again, FamilyLifeToday.com is our website. You\u2019ll find all the information you need about these resources there. There is also information about Mary Flo\u2019s <em>Simple Truths<\/em> series that we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center, as well. Again, you\u2019ll find all the information on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call for more information at 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d\u20141-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are very grateful for those of you who have stayed with us during summer vacation. You know, when summertime comes along, schedules get a little different; and sometimes, the things that are a part of your routine during the school year just get put aside for the summer. We\u2019re grateful for those of you who have continued to listen during the summer months and for those of you who have continued to support the ministry this summer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMinistries, like ours, often experience a decline in donations during the summer; and we\u2019re grateful for those of you who have stayed faithful\u2014Legacy Partners, who have continued to donate throughout the summer\u2014and those of you, who have contacted us, from time to time, to make a donation and show your support for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We appreciate you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis month, if you can make a donation to help us defray the costs of producing and syndicating this program, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a two-CD set of a conversation we had with Steve Farrar about what a father can do to anchor his family in Christ for the next hundred years. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY. That\u2019s 1-800-358-6329. Make your donation over the phone and ask for the CDs on <em>Anchoring Your Family in Christ<\/em> when you get in touch with us. You can also mail a check to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> if you\u2019d like to support us that way. Send your check, along with your request for the CDs on <em>Anchoring Your Family in Christ<\/em>, to Post Office Box 7111\u2014\u201cSeventy-one, eleven\u201d\u2014Little Rock, Arkansas. Arkansas is A-R. Then, the zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you\u2019ll join us back again tomorrow. Mary Flo Ridley is going to be here, again. We\u2019re going to talk about what you do, as a mom or a dad, when your kids start asking about choices you made as a teenager. We\u2019ll have that conversation tomorrow. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2013 FamilyLife. 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