{"id":302766,"date":"2013-06-28T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-06-28T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/marriage-it-takes-two-players\/"},"modified":"2013-06-28T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-06-28T15:00:00","slug":"marriage-it-takes-two-players","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/marriage-it-takes-two-players\/","title":{"rendered":"Marriage, It Takes Two Players"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What happens when a me-centric culture bumps up against the reality of self sacrificing marriage?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-06-28.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"25.53M","filesize_raw":"26766512","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2862],"tags":[5290],"podcast_series":[],"cwp_profile":[3166],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302766","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-understanding-differences","tag-making-marriage-work","cwp_profile-jeff-kemp","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302766\/marriage-it-takes-two-players","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302766\/marriage-it-takes-two-players","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"xzFNxTyjh5\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/marriage-it-takes-two-players\/\">Marriage, It Takes Two Players<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/marriage-it-takes-two-players\/embed\/#?secret=xzFNxTyjh5\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Marriage, It Takes Two Players&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"xzFNxTyjh5\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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In fact, what you need is to be different people who are on the same team. Here are Jeff and Stacy Kemp.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 As soon as we started living together, after being married, it was very apparent that we were opposite in just every way! Jeff is an extrovert\u2014recharges by being with people. I am an extreme introvert\u2014I recharge by being alone. If we\u2019re both exhausted, he wants to go do something to recharge; and I just want to go do nothing to recharge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery way like that\u2014just extreme differences\u2014except, we do share one category\u2014and that is we are both incredibly dominant. I\u2019m a 99.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m a 97. That really bugs me because I\u2019m competitive, and she beat me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How do two competitive, dominant, different people make a marriage work? We\u2019ll hear some thoughts on that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. I have a confession I need to make to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here, on national radio?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. Um-m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is bad for the reputation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you remember, back in February, when we had the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> marriage cruise; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you know that the days on the cruise are long days; right? They go\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, for those of us who are working, we\u2019re working from sun-up to beyond sun-down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, but even for those who are cruising\u2014by the time the sessions are over, in the evening, then you have the bonus session\u2014you have a concert that\u2019s going to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ballroom dancing\u2014you have comedians.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You have all kinds of things going on. So, it could be midnight or even later before you wind up back at your cabin and headed off to bed. One of the things we have, on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise, is a morning devotion for couples\u2014where you can get up, and you can kind of start your day with a spiritual direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me guess what your confession is. Having worked with you, here, for 20 years\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You have it figured out; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Folks, he didn\u2019t go. I\u2019m telling you. There is <em>no<\/em> way he went!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was not at\u2014I did not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But Keith\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Keith Lynch was there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Keith was there. Why were you there, Keith?\u2014because you engineered the sound?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He had to record it for us. [Laughter] I\u2019m grateful that he did because now I can hear what Jeff and Stacy Kemp shared with the audience. In fact, I\u2019ll pay particular attention today as we give our listeners an opportunity to hear how one of our days, onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, started for some of our guests. Others of us were still preparing for the day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I would say there were 400 or 500 people in there; but anyway, it\u2019s just a lot of fun. In fact, we\u2019re coming up on a deadline\u2014aren\u2019t we?\u2014where folks need to take advantage of signing up now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We are, yes. Next week, the rate for the cruise is going to increase. So, folks who\u2019d like to go with us\u2014we\u2019re about 60 percent booked for the cruise for next Valentine\u2019s week\u2014that\u2019s February 10<sup>th<\/sup> through the 14<sup>th<\/sup>. We\u2019ll be leaving from Miami\u2014coming back to Miami.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It ought to be illegal. [Laughter] We have so much fun\u2014it ought to be illegal. I mean, the content that we offer is really a wide spectrum\u2014from comedians to couples like Jeff and Stacy Kemp. Jeff was a former NFL all-pro quarterback, at least that\u2019s what he told me, at one point. [Laughter] Jeff spoke\u2014and people really liked what they had to say because they\u2019re real people who shared out of their lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, I\u2019ve been looking forward to this. So, let\u2019s listen, together, now\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, Jeff knows that you weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as we hear what Jeff and Stacy Kemp shared, for couples, at the morning devotion on the <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, back, in February. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Recorded Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was about\u2014let\u2019s see\u201414 years or so ago\u2014our son, Keegan, was five years old. We were in the hallway\u2014Stacy and I. We were having a dialogue\u2014somewhat of a disagreement. Things were not exactly going perfectly in this dialogue. You could tell how different we were because we were just saying things differently\u2014kind of frustrated with one another\u2014a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur five-year-old son could figure it out pretty quickly. So, Keegan\u2014hearing his mom and dad having this dialogue, that\u2019s friction-oriented and disagreeing\u2014goes, \u201cDaddy, you guys are too different to be married.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWow! This is a teachable moment. I\u2019d better come up with something here<em>.\u201d<\/em> So, I got down on my knee. I said: \u201cNo, no, no, Keegan. Mommy and Daddy <em>are<\/em> married because we are so different. You see, God needs two differents to come together to become a team.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I used to play football.\u00a0 All of my boys play football. So, football is kind of the common word picture in our family. I said: \u201cNo, listen, Keegan. Imagine, that in football, what if a running back didn\u2019t have an offensive lineman? He\u2019d be in trouble. The lineman is great big and strong; but the running back is small, and quick, and darts. So, they need each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAnd quarterbacks\u2014we would be no good without receivers to catch\u2014but we\u2019re very different. They\u2019re fast, and can jump, and leap, and catch; and we\u2019re not as fast but can throw. So, we need different people to come together to make a team. You don\u2019t need to worry. In marriage, God has brought us together to make us a team\u2014even a mommy and a daddy\u2014as a man and a woman are very different\u2014and we have God to glue us together.\u201d His brain starts churning on this one\u2014thinking about his mom and dad. He says, \u201cWell, Dad, with you guys, it\u2019s going to take Crazy Glue.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 We met back in 1981 and quickly found that we had a lot of shared interests. We like to snow ski, we like to play tennis, we shared values, we both love the Lord and love family, and thought this was great. We ended up getting married in March of 1983. It didn\u2019t take very long for us to realize that, while we had some common interests and shared values, everything else about us was radically different.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs soon as we started living together, after being married, it was very apparent that we were opposite\u2014in just every way\u2014and not just a little bit\u2014but to extremes. Jeff is an extrovert\u2014recharges by being with people. I am an extreme introvert\u2014and I recharge by being alone. I like to read, and play games, and watch movies; and he likes to be out doing things\u2014active.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we\u2019re both exhausted, he wants to go do something to recharge; and I just want to go do nothing to recharge. He is very subjective\u2014he\u2019s a feeler. I\u2019m very objective\u2014black and white, factual\u2014more like a man, actually. Every way, like that\u2014just extreme differences\u2014except, we do share one category\u2014and that is we are both incredibly dominant. I\u2019m a 99\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m a 97. That really bugs me because I\u2019m competitive, and she beat me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 So needless to say, we started out our marriage and had a lot of difficulties. The one thing we had going for us, outside of Christ, was the fact that we were committed. We knew that we were there\u2014we would not divorce\u2014and we were committed, but it wasn\u2019t a whole lot of fun. But thankfully, we had friends that got us to a marriage conference. We began learning, and gaining tools, and everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the verses that really helped us a lot was just the fact, in Romans 8:28 and 29: \u201cWe know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purpose\u201d\u2014which, we needed to make His purpose our purpose. And also in 29, it goes on to say, \u201cFor those He foreknew He predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son.\u201d God wants us to be more like Jesus Christ. Marriage is a great way that He can use to do that if we will allow Him to do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, that\u2019s really the center of our message this morning: \u201cAll things work together for good for those who love God and who are called according to His purpose.\u201d When we wonder what our purpose is, we can just remember that His purpose is for us to get conformed to the image of Jesus Christ\u2014for our personalities to become more and more like Him. Everything that happens in our lives is an opportunity for Him to reshape us to be less selfish and more loving, to be less prideful and to be more humble, to be less self-oriented and more oriented about the other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis helps a lot when you get into those tough spots in marriage. You realize: \u201cWow! This isn\u2019t just that we didn\u2019t match up well, or I got a raw deal by marrying this person. No, this is God\u2019s appointed crucible\u2014if you will\u2014to melt me down, and purify me, and take away a bunch of my selfishness and yuckiness\u2014to make me more like Jesus.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I remember a certain point in our marriage, where these little frictions of ours happened frequently. I kind of whined, in my spirit, about it. I would not really change myself as much as think: \u201cI wish she was different or our marriage was easier<em>.<\/em>\u201d It was very much of a consumer attitude, rather than an investor attitude. I wanted to get the best deal out of this marriage and frustrated that it wasn\u2019t going well. But Romans 8:28 and 29 kind of hit me, at that point. It changed my perspective. I started to see our marital challenges\u2014which God had appointed\u2014to be used to help change us to be more like Him. He started to show me that those were part of what He wanted to help me conform to the image of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust the other day, I had an example. I walked in. I\u2019m very impulsive, as Stacy said. She was doing something on the computer, related to our son\u2019s wedding. I just interrupted her and said, \u201cHey, look at this,\u201d and I showed her these papers. I thought they were important. I kind of ignored her feelings and her situation. She was a little bit offended by me. She explained it to me. Once she started explaining it to me, I really didn\u2019t agree with her much. I was just sitting there, kind of calm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, you didn\u2019t sit there kind of calm\u2014not to correct you in front of everybody.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, after a while, I said something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 You were like, \u201cOh, so like that\u2019s important.\u201d It was something really not nice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Then, she started to be kind of hyped up about it. I didn\u2019t practice my Dennis Rainey or Bob Lepine sensitive husbanding skills. [Laughter] I said, \u201cDon\u2019t freak out!\u201d Ooh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Which made me freak out! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Those were bad words. [Laughter] Then, we went into it. My wife understands the Scriptures and explained them to me\u2014how I should have treated her. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Since I\u2019m objective.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I was not receiving the message super well; but I was, at least, buttoning my lip and just sitting there\u2014kind of tolerating this explanation of how insensitive I was and how I had offended her. I remember that it just didn\u2019t go well. All of a sudden, after it was finished, and I tried to say, \u201cI\u2019m sorry,\u201d\u2014but she could tell I wasn\u2019t really all that sorry\u2014and I wasn\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 He wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014terribly, terribly sorry. I went downstairs to have my quiet time. I said, \u201cGod, this situation I was just in has happened over, and over, and over in our marriage. Is there something You want to teach me about it?\u201d In essence, I have a huge problem with empathy. I think I\u2019m compassionate for the poor, and the underdog, and the needy; but when it comes to the most important person in my life\u2014who, when I hurt her, she says something back that reflects poorly on me\u2014I don\u2019t like to feel that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I\u2019m not very empathetic, and I wasn\u2019t appreciating her feelings. I said I was sorry, but I really didn\u2019t have a deep passionate concern for her feelings. So, as I was just writing in this journal, God was revealing to me that: \u201cThis is an area that you have had a problem with for many, many years. It\u2019s very not like Jesus. And if you want to be like Jesus, it would be great to set a goal to start changing in this area.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m not going to claim that I\u2019ve changed in the week since this quiet time, but Bob\u2019s message last night included Colossians 3, verse 13, when he said you can\u2019t just get rid of the bad stuff; right? You have to put something good in its place\u2014which is why, when you confess your sins, then, you can say, \u201cHoly Spirit, fill me up and take me over.\u201d So, in this case, this verse clarifies what God was saying to me. In verse 12, it is, \u201cTherefore, as God\u2019s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.\u201d Compassion\u2014that\u2019s what He wants to have in me\u2014I\u2019m facing this situation with Stacy, where when my feelings are challenged by her saying, \u201cYou\u2019ve hurt my feelings.\u201d I don\u2019t really empathize with her well, and I don\u2019t have a lot of compassion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI realized, in that quiet time, that since this has happened for 29 years, I must not be able to do this on my own. So, I finished my little four-page journal entry by saying: \u201cGod, this is an issue You raised. Please help me fix it through Your power.\u201d So, I\u2019m a work in progress. But this is just an example of Romans 8:29\u2014that I need to be conformed to the image of Christ. This issue\u2014that I was blind to, in my life\u2014it didn\u2019t come up with people at work. It didn\u2019t come up with other folks. It came up with the most tender person, who also I feel most offended by, if she ever tells me that I hurt her feelings because I\u2019m not as empathetic. I am pathetic, but I\u2019m not that empathetic. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAny of you ever read a book called <em>Sacred Marriage<\/em> by Gary Thomas? In it, he has a classic line. He says, \u201cWhat if God did not mean for marriage so much to make us happy as to make us holy?\u201d What if He wanted us not to focus on happiness and our personal satisfaction but, actually, to focus on holiness?\u2014which is what Romans 8:29 is talking about\u2014conform to the image of Christ, and you\u2019ll become holy. If you do that, the cool thing is\u2014you become a better spouse. If you\u2019re a better spouse, you treat your spouse better; and she has something much better to respond to than what I was giving her before. Pretty soon, I come a lot closer to happiness than I would have if I aimed at happiness\u2014and became selfish\u2014and ended up unholy and unhappy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut if we aim at holiness\u2014Christ-likeness\u2014I\u2019m not talking about religiosity or perfection\u2014but the humility and the character of Christ. If we aim at that, then all of a sudden, we are going to be better in our relationships with people; and it leads to better happiness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a friend named Jeremy\u2014Jeremy Vallerand. He\u2019s probably about 32 years old. A few years, I wrote to him when he was 29. I said, \u201cWould you tell me what your generation thinks about marriage?\u201d because I did a lot of speaking on marriage and I was curious about what Gen Y thinks.\u00a0 He said: \u201cOur generation is the most marketed-to generation in the history of mankind, and we are consumers. We have been trained to be consumers. Everything in our lives is viewed through the prism\u2014through the lens of consumerism. We\u2019ve been told that, since you\u2019re the consumer, you\u2019re right; and you always should get what you want.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, you move into marriage\u2014a world where there are no quick fixes and no easy upgrades\u2014and everything is counter to consumerism. But even in marriage, how often do we act like consumers?\u2014thinking, \u201cWhat am I getting from this?\u201d as opposed to, \u201cWhat am I putting into this relationship?\u201d\u2014which is more of the Christ-like Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I said, my job, before I went into the non-profit world, was professional football. I was a quarterback. When they teach the quarterbacks and receivers, they take them into separate meeting rooms. In those separate meeting rooms they give them their assignments. One of the things they talk to the quarterbacks about is the standards of accuracy that they expect in the way they pass the ball.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I played on the San Francisco 49ers. There was this pretty good guy ahead of me\u2014that beat me out\u2014named Joe Montana. I couldn\u2019t understand that\u2014until he won the Hall of Fame. But Joe Montana used to live up to what the coaches said. They said, \u201cThe expectation we have of you quarterbacks is that you will put the ball within a one-foot diameter of accuracy, right in front of the receiver\u2014not below his waist, not above his shoulders, not behind him, and not too far out in front of him. We want it right here so he can catch the ball, turn upfield, get a first down, and perhaps, a score. Serve the receiver so he can continue to get yardage for the team.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGuess what they were telling the receivers? \u201cIf you can touch it, you must catch it.\u201d What are they teaching?\u2014ultimate personal accountability to serve the other on the team; and sacrifice yourself so they get the best possible opportunity to succeed. That\u2019s an investor mentality. They don\u2019t tell the receivers, \u201cHey, did you know that quarterbacks are supposed to throw the ball within a one-foot diameter, right here, where it\u2019s easy to catch, and you won\u2019t get hit by anyone, and you can keep on running?\u201d If that were the case, the receivers would run down the field\u2014they\u2019re looking for the ball\u2014there\u2019s a couple of safeties and linebackers coming after them\u2014and the ball is thrown a little bit behind them, here. They might look and say: \u201cI\u2019ll wait for the next one. That doesn\u2019t look so good.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat if the quarterbacks were thinking, \u201cThe receivers are taught that\u2014wherever you throw it\u2014if they can touch, it they have to catch it\u201d?So quarterbacks are like: \u201cGeez! These guys are coming after me. I don\u2019t want to stand in here and throw an accurate pass. I\u2019ll just chuck it up somewhere close.\u201d You would get the worst possible service of one to another, and the team would all fall apart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, let\u2019s swing it around to marriage. Let\u2019s swing it around to that consumer\/investor mentality. Remember those words of John F. Kennedy, who said, \u201cAsk not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.\u201d That is the Christ-like attitude of selfless service to another person\u2014investing in the relationship and in them\u2014which, of course, is going to make you more conformed to the image of Christ because you have to lay down your self-interest to put someone else ahead of yourself. The cool thing about it is\u2014when you do that, it makes your marriage better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to kind of close\u2014again, with the verses that we shared. Then, I\u2019ll remind us about being investors, not consumers: \u201cFor we know that God works all things together for our good, for those who love God and are called according to His purpose.\u201d Walk out of here, remembering that your purpose\u2014having been predestined and called by God\u2014is to be conformed to the image of Christ. That\u2019s exactly where your marriage is a wonderful instrument for Him to do. Any of your challenges, difficult as they may be, are excellent, in God\u2019s hands, to turn you into more and more the Jesus Christ-type person. That will be a better witness in the world, give you a better marriage, and give your kids a great testimony to look at.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s pray: \u201cLord, thank You that Your Word does not return void. Father, I ask that You help us to invest in our relationship, Lord, and that we would begin to see the returns on that investment\u2014that we would be patient\u2014knowing that, oftentimes, the returns on investments come down the road. Lord, we love You and praise You. In Christ\u2019s name, Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Amen. Thanks for coming. Have an awesome day! [Applause]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening, together, to Jeff and Stacy Kemp, as they started our day on\u2014I think it was Tuesday, onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise, back in February. I can tell you\u2014when Jeff said, \u201cHave an awesome day!\u201d I did, even though I wasn\u2019t there to hear him say it that morning. [Laughter] But I\u2019m glad I had a chance to hear what they were sharing. That was good stuff!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly; and the reason it\u2019s good stuff is number one\u2014it\u2019s from the Scriptures\u2014and number two\u2014they\u2019re authentic. They just talked about how real relationships can grow, over a lifetime together, and how it does get better, as Jeff was sharing there. I have a confession, too, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 What\u2019s that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn\u2019t go, either. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You wait till now! You wait till now!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn\u2019t go either, and it really was a good devotional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you know what? Here\u2019s the thing. We start the mornings out with a good devotion like this. It really is just one of the little seeds that, biblically-speaking, we plant in people\u2019s hearts. When couples get this stuff Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday\u2014when they get into port on Friday morning\u2014they have a spring in their step and have a fresh vision for their marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I think fresh is a great word because that\u2019s really\u2014you come on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise\u2014and it\u2019s not that you have anything wrong with your marriage\u2014but there\u2019s a freshness, you have at the end of the week, that you didn\u2019t have when you got there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And a lot of folks come to build some healthy growth in their marriage relationship. If you come on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> cruise, I can almost guarantee it. I can\u2019t because you have a choice\u2014you have a choice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. But you can make some great memories, together, as a couple. We want to encourage listeners\u2014today is the last day for the early-bird rates. If you want to have a week away together, in the middle of winter\u2014Valentine\u2019s week\u2014a fun, relaxing, romantic week, where you can hear some great messages from guys like Dr. Gary Chapman, who is going to be joining us this year. Ron Deal is going to be doing a breakout session. Crawford and Karen Loritts are going to be with us. We\u2019re going to have music from Laura Story, and Building 429, Nicole C. Mullen, Chris August, and others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s going to be a great week away. Take advantage of the lower rates by calling us today; or going, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button for the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise. If you sign up today, our team has put together a little gift pack to welcome you aboard. You\u2019ll get a gift card for dinner\u201450 bucks, where you can go out and have dinner on us\u2014and a $25 gift card for the movies. We\u2019ll pay for the date night if you\u2019ll sign up, today, to be a part of the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise next February.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link for the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise for more information. Or sign up by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY: 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Hope to see you onboard the cruise in February of 2014.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who make <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible; and you know who you are. It\u2019s those of you who, from time to time, will get in touch with us and make a donation to help support this ministry. We couldn\u2019t do it without you. In fact, the costs for producing and syndicating a program like this add up. It\u2019s folks, like you, who go online or give us a call to make a donation\u2014you guys make <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>possible, and we really appreciate you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, if you can make a donation of $25 or more, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a six-CD set that features messages from the original <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, held back in 2011. So you\u2019ll hear Kirk and Chelsea Cameron, Shaunti Feldhahn, Crawford and Karen Loritts, Tim and Joy Downs, Dennis, me\u2014six messages on strengthening your marriage\u2014our thank-you gift to you if you can make a $25 or more donation, this week, to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to hear from Eric Metaxas, author of the book <em>Bonhoeffer<\/em>. He\u2019s written a new book about seven courageous, heroic people who have marked our culture. We\u2019ll hear a message from Eric on Monday. Hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today--his name is Keith Lynch--along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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In fact, what you need is to be different people who are on the same team. Here are Jeff and Stacy Kemp.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 As soon as we started living together, after being married, it was very apparent that we were opposite in just every way! Jeff is an extrovert\u2014recharges by being with people. I am an extreme introvert\u2014I recharge by being alone. If we\u2019re both exhausted, he wants to go do something to recharge; and I just want to go do nothing to recharge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery way like that\u2014just extreme differences\u2014except, we do share one category\u2014and that is we are both incredibly dominant. I\u2019m a 99.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m a 97. That really bugs me because I\u2019m competitive, and she beat me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. How do two competitive, dominant, different people make a marriage work? We\u2019ll hear some thoughts on that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. I have a confession I need to make to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here, on national radio?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. Um-m\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is bad for the reputation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you remember, back in February, when we had the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> marriage cruise; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you know that the days on the cruise are long days; right? They go\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, for those of us who are working, we\u2019re working from sun-up to beyond sun-down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, but even for those who are cruising\u2014by the time the sessions are over, in the evening, then you have the bonus session\u2014you have a concert that\u2019s going to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ballroom dancing\u2014you have comedians.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You have all kinds of things going on. So, it could be midnight or even later before you wind up back at your cabin and headed off to bed. One of the things we have, on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise, is a morning devotion for couples\u2014where you can get up, and you can kind of start your day with a spiritual direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me guess what your confession is. Having worked with you, here, for 20 years\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You have it figured out; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Folks, he didn\u2019t go. I\u2019m telling you. There is <em>no<\/em> way he went!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was not at\u2014I did not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But Keith\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Keith Lynch was there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Keith was there. Why were you there, Keith?\u2014because you engineered the sound?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He had to record it for us. [Laughter] I\u2019m grateful that he did because now I can hear what Jeff and Stacy Kemp shared with the audience. In fact, I\u2019ll pay particular attention today as we give our listeners an opportunity to hear how one of our days, onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, started for some of our guests. Others of us were still preparing for the day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I would say there were 400 or 500 people in there; but anyway, it\u2019s just a lot of fun. In fact, we\u2019re coming up on a deadline\u2014aren\u2019t we?\u2014where folks need to take advantage of signing up now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We are, yes. Next week, the rate for the cruise is going to increase. So, folks who\u2019d like to go with us\u2014we\u2019re about 60 percent booked for the cruise for next Valentine\u2019s week\u2014that\u2019s February 10<sup>th<\/sup> through the 14<sup>th<\/sup>. We\u2019ll be leaving from Miami\u2014coming back to Miami.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It ought to be illegal. [Laughter] We have so much fun\u2014it ought to be illegal. I mean, the content that we offer is really a wide spectrum\u2014from comedians to couples like Jeff and Stacy Kemp. Jeff was a former NFL all-pro quarterback, at least that\u2019s what he told me, at one point. [Laughter] Jeff spoke\u2014and people really liked what they had to say because they\u2019re real people who shared out of their lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, I\u2019ve been looking forward to this. So, let\u2019s listen, together, now\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, Jeff knows that you weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as we hear what Jeff and Stacy Kemp shared, for couples, at the morning devotion on the <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, back, in February. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Recorded Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was about\u2014let\u2019s see\u201414 years or so ago\u2014our son, Keegan, was five years old. We were in the hallway\u2014Stacy and I. We were having a dialogue\u2014somewhat of a disagreement. Things were not exactly going perfectly in this dialogue. You could tell how different we were because we were just saying things differently\u2014kind of frustrated with one another\u2014a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur five-year-old son could figure it out pretty quickly. So, Keegan\u2014hearing his mom and dad having this dialogue, that\u2019s friction-oriented and disagreeing\u2014goes, \u201cDaddy, you guys are too different to be married.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWow! This is a teachable moment. I\u2019d better come up with something here<em>.\u201d<\/em> So, I got down on my knee. I said: \u201cNo, no, no, Keegan. Mommy and Daddy <em>are<\/em> married because we are so different. You see, God needs two differents to come together to become a team.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I used to play football.\u00a0 All of my boys play football. So, football is kind of the common word picture in our family. I said: \u201cNo, listen, Keegan. Imagine, that in football, what if a running back didn\u2019t have an offensive lineman? He\u2019d be in trouble. The lineman is great big and strong; but the running back is small, and quick, and darts. So, they need each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAnd quarterbacks\u2014we would be no good without receivers to catch\u2014but we\u2019re very different. They\u2019re fast, and can jump, and leap, and catch; and we\u2019re not as fast but can throw. So, we need different people to come together to make a team. You don\u2019t need to worry. In marriage, God has brought us together to make us a team\u2014even a mommy and a daddy\u2014as a man and a woman are very different\u2014and we have God to glue us together.\u201d His brain starts churning on this one\u2014thinking about his mom and dad. He says, \u201cWell, Dad, with you guys, it\u2019s going to take Crazy Glue.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 We met back in 1981 and quickly found that we had a lot of shared interests. We like to snow ski, we like to play tennis, we shared values, we both love the Lord and love family, and thought this was great. 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Every way, like that\u2014just extreme differences\u2014except, we do share one category\u2014and that is we are both incredibly dominant. I\u2019m a 99\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m a 97. That really bugs me because I\u2019m competitive, and she beat me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 So needless to say, we started out our marriage and had a lot of difficulties. The one thing we had going for us, outside of Christ, was the fact that we were committed. We knew that we were there\u2014we would not divorce\u2014and we were committed, but it wasn\u2019t a whole lot of fun. But thankfully, we had friends that got us to a marriage conference. We began learning, and gaining tools, and everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think the verses that really helped us a lot was just the fact, in Romans 8:28 and 29: \u201cWe know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purpose\u201d\u2014which, we needed to make His purpose our purpose. And also in 29, it goes on to say, \u201cFor those He foreknew He predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son.\u201d God wants us to be more like Jesus Christ. Marriage is a great way that He can use to do that if we will allow Him to do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, that\u2019s really the center of our message this morning: \u201cAll things work together for good for those who love God and who are called according to His purpose.\u201d When we wonder what our purpose is, we can just remember that His purpose is for us to get conformed to the image of Jesus Christ\u2014for our personalities to become more and more like Him. Everything that happens in our lives is an opportunity for Him to reshape us to be less selfish and more loving, to be less prideful and to be more humble, to be less self-oriented and more oriented about the other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis helps a lot when you get into those tough spots in marriage. You realize: \u201cWow! This isn\u2019t just that we didn\u2019t match up well, or I got a raw deal by marrying this person. No, this is God\u2019s appointed crucible\u2014if you will\u2014to melt me down, and purify me, and take away a bunch of my selfishness and yuckiness\u2014to make me more like Jesus.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I remember a certain point in our marriage, where these little frictions of ours happened frequently. I kind of whined, in my spirit, about it. I would not really change myself as much as think: \u201cI wish she was different or our marriage was easier<em>.<\/em>\u201d It was very much of a consumer attitude, rather than an investor attitude. I wanted to get the best deal out of this marriage and frustrated that it wasn\u2019t going well. But Romans 8:28 and 29 kind of hit me, at that point. It changed my perspective. I started to see our marital challenges\u2014which God had appointed\u2014to be used to help change us to be more like Him. He started to show me that those were part of what He wanted to help me conform to the image of Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust the other day, I had an example. I walked in. I\u2019m very impulsive, as Stacy said. She was doing something on the computer, related to our son\u2019s wedding. I just interrupted her and said, \u201cHey, look at this,\u201d and I showed her these papers. I thought they were important. I kind of ignored her feelings and her situation. She was a little bit offended by me. She explained it to me. Once she started explaining it to me, I really didn\u2019t agree with her much. I was just sitting there, kind of calm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, you didn\u2019t sit there kind of calm\u2014not to correct you in front of everybody.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, after a while, I said something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 You were like, \u201cOh, so like that\u2019s important.\u201d It was something really not nice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Then, she started to be kind of hyped up about it. I didn\u2019t practice my Dennis Rainey or Bob Lepine sensitive husbanding skills. [Laughter] I said, \u201cDon\u2019t freak out!\u201d Ooh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Which made me freak out! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Those were bad words. [Laughter] Then, we went into it. My wife understands the Scriptures and explained them to me\u2014how I should have treated her. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Since I\u2019m objective.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I was not receiving the message super well; but I was, at least, buttoning my lip and just sitting there\u2014kind of tolerating this explanation of how insensitive I was and how I had offended her. I remember that it just didn\u2019t go well. All of a sudden, after it was finished, and I tried to say, \u201cI\u2019m sorry,\u201d\u2014but she could tell I wasn\u2019t really all that sorry\u2014and I wasn\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 He wasn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014terribly, terribly sorry. I went downstairs to have my quiet time. I said, \u201cGod, this situation I was just in has happened over, and over, and over in our marriage. Is there something You want to teach me about it?\u201d In essence, I have a huge problem with empathy. I think I\u2019m compassionate for the poor, and the underdog, and the needy; but when it comes to the most important person in my life\u2014who, when I hurt her, she says something back that reflects poorly on me\u2014I don\u2019t like to feel that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I\u2019m not very empathetic, and I wasn\u2019t appreciating her feelings. I said I was sorry, but I really didn\u2019t have a deep passionate concern for her feelings. So, as I was just writing in this journal, God was revealing to me that: \u201cThis is an area that you have had a problem with for many, many years. It\u2019s very not like Jesus. And if you want to be like Jesus, it would be great to set a goal to start changing in this area.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m not going to claim that I\u2019ve changed in the week since this quiet time, but Bob\u2019s message last night included Colossians 3, verse 13, when he said you can\u2019t just get rid of the bad stuff; right? You have to put something good in its place\u2014which is why, when you confess your sins, then, you can say, \u201cHoly Spirit, fill me up and take me over.\u201d So, in this case, this verse clarifies what God was saying to me. In verse 12, it is, \u201cTherefore, as God\u2019s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.\u201d Compassion\u2014that\u2019s what He wants to have in me\u2014I\u2019m facing this situation with Stacy, where when my feelings are challenged by her saying, \u201cYou\u2019ve hurt my feelings.\u201d I don\u2019t really empathize with her well, and I don\u2019t have a lot of compassion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI realized, in that quiet time, that since this has happened for 29 years, I must not be able to do this on my own. So, I finished my little four-page journal entry by saying: \u201cGod, this is an issue You raised. Please help me fix it through Your power.\u201d So, I\u2019m a work in progress. But this is just an example of Romans 8:29\u2014that I need to be conformed to the image of Christ. This issue\u2014that I was blind to, in my life\u2014it didn\u2019t come up with people at work. It didn\u2019t come up with other folks. It came up with the most tender person, who also I feel most offended by, if she ever tells me that I hurt her feelings because I\u2019m not as empathetic. I am pathetic, but I\u2019m not that empathetic. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAny of you ever read a book called <em>Sacred Marriage<\/em> by Gary Thomas? In it, he has a classic line. He says, \u201cWhat if God did not mean for marriage so much to make us happy as to make us holy?\u201d What if He wanted us not to focus on happiness and our personal satisfaction but, actually, to focus on holiness?\u2014which is what Romans 8:29 is talking about\u2014conform to the image of Christ, and you\u2019ll become holy. If you do that, the cool thing is\u2014you become a better spouse. If you\u2019re a better spouse, you treat your spouse better; and she has something much better to respond to than what I was giving her before. Pretty soon, I come a lot closer to happiness than I would have if I aimed at happiness\u2014and became selfish\u2014and ended up unholy and unhappy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut if we aim at holiness\u2014Christ-likeness\u2014I\u2019m not talking about religiosity or perfection\u2014but the humility and the character of Christ. If we aim at that, then all of a sudden, we are going to be better in our relationships with people; and it leads to better happiness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a friend named Jeremy\u2014Jeremy Vallerand. He\u2019s probably about 32 years old. A few years, I wrote to him when he was 29. I said, \u201cWould you tell me what your generation thinks about marriage?\u201d because I did a lot of speaking on marriage and I was curious about what Gen Y thinks.\u00a0 He said: \u201cOur generation is the most marketed-to generation in the history of mankind, and we are consumers. We have been trained to be consumers. Everything in our lives is viewed through the prism\u2014through the lens of consumerism. We\u2019ve been told that, since you\u2019re the consumer, you\u2019re right; and you always should get what you want.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, you move into marriage\u2014a world where there are no quick fixes and no easy upgrades\u2014and everything is counter to consumerism. But even in marriage, how often do we act like consumers?\u2014thinking, \u201cWhat am I getting from this?\u201d as opposed to, \u201cWhat am I putting into this relationship?\u201d\u2014which is more of the Christ-like Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I said, my job, before I went into the non-profit world, was professional football. I was a quarterback. When they teach the quarterbacks and receivers, they take them into separate meeting rooms. In those separate meeting rooms they give them their assignments. One of the things they talk to the quarterbacks about is the standards of accuracy that they expect in the way they pass the ball.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I played on the San Francisco 49ers. There was this pretty good guy ahead of me\u2014that beat me out\u2014named Joe Montana. I couldn\u2019t understand that\u2014until he won the Hall of Fame. But Joe Montana used to live up to what the coaches said. They said, \u201cThe expectation we have of you quarterbacks is that you will put the ball within a one-foot diameter of accuracy, right in front of the receiver\u2014not below his waist, not above his shoulders, not behind him, and not too far out in front of him. We want it right here so he can catch the ball, turn upfield, get a first down, and perhaps, a score. Serve the receiver so he can continue to get yardage for the team.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGuess what they were telling the receivers? \u201cIf you can touch it, you must catch it.\u201d What are they teaching?\u2014ultimate personal accountability to serve the other on the team; and sacrifice yourself so they get the best possible opportunity to succeed. That\u2019s an investor mentality. They don\u2019t tell the receivers, \u201cHey, did you know that quarterbacks are supposed to throw the ball within a one-foot diameter, right here, where it\u2019s easy to catch, and you won\u2019t get hit by anyone, and you can keep on running?\u201d If that were the case, the receivers would run down the field\u2014they\u2019re looking for the ball\u2014there\u2019s a couple of safeties and linebackers coming after them\u2014and the ball is thrown a little bit behind them, here. They might look and say: \u201cI\u2019ll wait for the next one. That doesn\u2019t look so good.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat if the quarterbacks were thinking, \u201cThe receivers are taught that\u2014wherever you throw it\u2014if they can touch, it they have to catch it\u201d?So quarterbacks are like: \u201cGeez! These guys are coming after me. I don\u2019t want to stand in here and throw an accurate pass. I\u2019ll just chuck it up somewhere close.\u201d You would get the worst possible service of one to another, and the team would all fall apart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, let\u2019s swing it around to marriage. Let\u2019s swing it around to that consumer\/investor mentality. Remember those words of John F. Kennedy, who said, \u201cAsk not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.\u201d That is the Christ-like attitude of selfless service to another person\u2014investing in the relationship and in them\u2014which, of course, is going to make you more conformed to the image of Christ because you have to lay down your self-interest to put someone else ahead of yourself. The cool thing about it is\u2014when you do that, it makes your marriage better.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to kind of close\u2014again, with the verses that we shared. Then, I\u2019ll remind us about being investors, not consumers: \u201cFor we know that God works all things together for our good, for those who love God and are called according to His purpose.\u201d Walk out of here, remembering that your purpose\u2014having been predestined and called by God\u2014is to be conformed to the image of Christ. That\u2019s exactly where your marriage is a wonderful instrument for Him to do. Any of your challenges, difficult as they may be, are excellent, in God\u2019s hands, to turn you into more and more the Jesus Christ-type person. That will be a better witness in the world, give you a better marriage, and give your kids a great testimony to look at.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stacy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s pray: \u201cLord, thank You that Your Word does not return void. Father, I ask that You help us to invest in our relationship, Lord, and that we would begin to see the returns on that investment\u2014that we would be patient\u2014knowing that, oftentimes, the returns on investments come down the road. Lord, we love You and praise You. In Christ\u2019s name, Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong>\u00a0 Amen. Thanks for coming. Have an awesome day! [Applause]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we\u2019ve been listening, together, to Jeff and Stacy Kemp, as they started our day on\u2014I think it was Tuesday, onboard the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise, back in February. I can tell you\u2014when Jeff said, \u201cHave an awesome day!\u201d I did, even though I wasn\u2019t there to hear him say it that morning. [Laughter] But I\u2019m glad I had a chance to hear what they were sharing. That was good stuff!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly; and the reason it\u2019s good stuff is number one\u2014it\u2019s from the Scriptures\u2014and number two\u2014they\u2019re authentic. They just talked about how real relationships can grow, over a lifetime together, and how it does get better, as Jeff was sharing there. I have a confession, too, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 What\u2019s that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn\u2019t go, either. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You wait till now! You wait till now!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn\u2019t go either, and it really was a good devotional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you know what? Here\u2019s the thing. We start the mornings out with a good devotion like this. It really is just one of the little seeds that, biblically-speaking, we plant in people\u2019s hearts. When couples get this stuff Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday\u2014when they get into port on Friday morning\u2014they have a spring in their step and have a fresh vision for their marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I think fresh is a great word because that\u2019s really\u2014you come on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise\u2014and it\u2019s not that you have anything wrong with your marriage\u2014but there\u2019s a freshness, you have at the end of the week, that you didn\u2019t have when you got there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And a lot of folks come to build some healthy growth in their marriage relationship. If you come on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> cruise, I can almost guarantee it. I can\u2019t because you have a choice\u2014you have a choice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. But you can make some great memories, together, as a couple. We want to encourage listeners\u2014today is the last day for the early-bird rates. If you want to have a week away together, in the middle of winter\u2014Valentine\u2019s week\u2014a fun, relaxing, romantic week, where you can hear some great messages from guys like Dr. Gary Chapman, who is going to be joining us this year. Ron Deal is going to be doing a breakout session. Crawford and Karen Loritts are going to be with us. We\u2019re going to have music from Laura Story, and Building 429, Nicole C. Mullen, Chris August, and others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s going to be a great week away. Take advantage of the lower rates by calling us today; or going, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button for the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise. If you sign up today, our team has put together a little gift pack to welcome you aboard. You\u2019ll get a gift card for dinner\u201450 bucks, where you can go out and have dinner on us\u2014and a $25 gift card for the movies. We\u2019ll pay for the date night if you\u2019ll sign up, today, to be a part of the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise next February.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link for the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise for more information. Or sign up by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY: 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Hope to see you onboard the cruise in February of 2014.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who make <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible; and you know who you are. It\u2019s those of you who, from time to time, will get in touch with us and make a donation to help support this ministry. We couldn\u2019t do it without you. In fact, the costs for producing and syndicating a program like this add up. It\u2019s folks, like you, who go online or give us a call to make a donation\u2014you guys make <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>possible, and we really appreciate you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, if you can make a donation of $25 or more, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a six-CD set that features messages from the original <em>Love Like You Mean It <\/em>marriage cruise, held back in 2011. So you\u2019ll hear Kirk and Chelsea Cameron, Shaunti Feldhahn, Crawford and Karen Loritts, Tim and Joy Downs, Dennis, me\u2014six messages on strengthening your marriage\u2014our thank-you gift to you if you can make a $25 or more donation, this week, to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make your donation over the phone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to hear from Eric Metaxas, author of the book <em>Bonhoeffer<\/em>. He\u2019s written a new book about seven courageous, heroic people who have marked our culture. We\u2019ll hear a message from Eric on Monday. Hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today--his name is Keith Lynch--along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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