{"id":302746,"date":"2013-05-27T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-05-27T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/until-we-all-come-home\/"},"modified":"2013-05-27T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-05-27T15:00:00","slug":"until-we-all-come-home","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/until-we-all-come-home\/","title":{"rendered":"Until We All Come Home"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adoption is a beautiful gift.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-05-27.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"25.57M","filesize_raw":"26815696","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2818],"tags":[2712,5255],"podcast_series":[],"cwp_profile":[9301],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302746","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-adoption-and-orphans","tag-adoption","tag-international-adoption","cwp_profile-kim-de-blecourt","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302746\/until-we-all-come-home","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302746\/until-we-all-come-home","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZcFvIYDAaM\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/until-we-all-come-home\/\">Until We All Come Home<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/until-we-all-come-home\/embed\/#?secret=ZcFvIYDAaM\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Until We All Come Home&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"ZcFvIYDAaM\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Kim says the guards were making her nervous\u2014really nervous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It\u2019s intimidating. The officers look very much like SS officers. They\u2019re dressed in long, black coats and very tall, brimmed black hats. They have automatic rifles on their shoulders. A couple of them will have not-friendly looking dogs on chains.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In the course of adopting her four-year-old son, Kim had been in this spot many times before, usually on a bus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> This day was different because this time I was in a passenger car, and we were leaving Ukraine. A warrant had been put out for my son. The prosecutor in our adoption case had put out an all-points bulletin, countrywide.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, May 27<sup>th<\/sup>, Memorial Day here in the United States. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Today, we\u2019ll hear a story of adoption and love\u2014a love that persists until everybody gets home safely. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Thanks for joining us on the Monday edition. We\u2019re going to hear a heroic story here today. We ought to stop and just acknowledge that, here in the United States, this is a day that honors heroism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Memorial Day is a great day. It\u2019s good to see flags being draped around graveyards, honoring those who have given their lives on behalf of the freedom we enjoy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not just a day for the pool and the picnic\u2014it\u2019s a day that we ought to stop, and recall, and reflect on those who have given their lives for their country. If you\u2019re a family of a soldier\u2014a service person\u2014who paid the ultimate price\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I agree!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014we just want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d from a grateful country, \u201cfor your son, or daughter, or loved one\u2019s service to our country.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story we\u2019re going to hear today is a different kind of heroism, as I said, Dennis. This is heroism on the part of the orphan. I know that\u2019s a subject that, for years, has been dear to your heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I can pound the table about this. As you know, earlier this month, you and I had the privilege of going to Summit IX, which is a summit for orphans, foster care, and adoption. This year, we approached 3,000 people, there in Nashville, really giving voice to those who have none. Today, we\u2019re going to hear a story that\u2014well, I have to tell our listeners, on the front end, not every international adoption involves the Secret Service.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, most of them don\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, this is quite a story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim de Blecourt blogs for a ministry that she leads called Nourished Hearts. She is an orphan advocate. She and her husband Jahn have been married since 1997. They have two children, Jacey and Jake. They live in Michigan. The story we\u2019ll hear is a story she tells in the book <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor Kim and Jahn de Blecourt, adopting their son Jake in the spring of 2010 was the culmination of a long and arduous process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I can tell you, without hesitation, that ours is not the normal path.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim traces her heart for adoption back to a mission trip she went on with a group from her church in 2006. The trip was to the Odessa region of Ukraine. After more than two weeks of ministry and outreach, they spent a little time, their last day in the city of Odessa, doing some sightseeing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I was coming back up the Potemkin Stairs\u2014the famous staircase in Ukraine. There was a group of children\u2014that I knew, immediately\u2014nobody has to explain this to you when you see street children\u2014the immense coatings of dirt on their skin, the condition of their nails\u2014when you see them\u2014you know what they are. They were approaching me for money. I was warned off by someone in the group. He said: \u201cNo, no, no. You can\u2019t give them money. It\u2019s actually more dangerous for you to give them money. They could be rolled for it later on. We don\u2019t know what they\u2019re going to do with it. Somebody else may be collecting it from them on the other end. Really, it\u2019s just not a good idea.\u201d They didn\u2019t shoo the children along, they just kind of collected us back to themselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many children were there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Three\u2014three boys. That was my first run-in with the orphan condition in another country. It broke my heart. God broke my heart for the orphan on that very day. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim and Jahn already had a daughter, Jacey, but the street children in Odessa were awakening something new in Kim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> You know how God works with pebbles? That was the first pebble at my window. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Contrary to the usual reluctant husband pattern, Jahn was fully-onboard with Kim\u2019s new vision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> You have to understand the incredible man that I\u2019m married to. He said, \u201cYou know, I have been thinking the same thing!\u201d God had already been ahead of me. He said: \u201cYou know, we really need to pray about this, Kim. We really need to look into this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They turned to the same place most people get information about adoption. They went to the internet. They discovered that Ukraine was closed to international adoption. So, at that point, they explored other alternatives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It took us about a year, upfront, just to get through the fact that we weren\u2019t going to adopt from Ukraine: \u201cWell, okay; then, what are we going to do? Are we going to adopt from another country? Well, let\u2019s look at the children here in our own country.\u201d So we looked at and flirted with domestic adoption. We had women choosing us because here\u2014it\u2019s the other way\u2014birth mothers choose the family. There was no settledness\u2014there was no peace with that decision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time a birth mother would choose us, something would always stop it. Then, Ukraine reopened. We thought, \u201cOh, well, that\u2019s why!\u201d We had prayed long and hard that we would know the child that we were to adopt because, in Ukraine, it\u2019s a little bit different. They hand you a number of file folders, and they have <em>you <\/em>choose whom you\u2019re going to go visit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Talk about looking at pictures of kids and reading about their backgrounds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes, and can I just tell you how demeaning the whole process feels?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It just felt dehumanizing or something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The clinical approach to adoption made the de Blecourts feel like they were almost shopping for a child. The information they were given was sometimes unreliable, if not downright false. Kim said that, for parents trying to adopt wisely, the system felt like it was stacked against them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It very much seems one-sided. They want to place these children in families. I can\u2019t always say that a lot of thought or concern is given as far as, \u201cWill this child be a good fit in that family?\u201d and, \u201cWill this family be able to give the child the care that they deserve?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> With a mother\u2019s heart\u2014with a parent\u2019s heart\u2014all you can see, in front of you, are these children who are so excited when you look them in the eye for the briefest of time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> And all of these children, around you, with their needs not being hidden.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want to take all of them home!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Exactly! And they\u2019re all calling you \u201cMama\u201d and \u201cPapa\u201d. That\u2019s what they tell them to call you. You\u2019re sitting there, trying to make a discerning, God-like decision for your family. That\u2019s all you want to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It took more than a month for Jahn, and Kim, and Jacey to find Sasha\u2014an almost four-year-old boy\u2014who would later become Jake de Blecourt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> The moment he came in the room, and was standing there, and he was kind of looking at us like: \u201cWho are you? Why are you here?\u201d\u2014kind of a, \u201cI don\u2019t know you,\u201d kind of look\u2014Jahn turned to me and said, \u201cThis is our son!\u201d We both knew. That thing that we had prayed for\u2014for all of those months before\u2014God delivered in a way that was beyond our reasoning. We couldn\u2019t understand how we both knew, but we did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In a typical Ukrainian adoption, at this point in the process, when the adoptive parents have said, \u201cYes,\u201d to a particular child, there\u2019s a court hearing; there\u2019s a judge\u2019s decision; and then, there\u2019s a ten-day waiting period to allow for appeals or other legal challenges. Then, there\u2019s more paperwork until the child is ultimately issued a visa to travel to the United States.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt all ought to take about two weeks, but the de Blecourts were on a different path. They had no idea the ordeal they were about to undergo.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> The judge ruled in our favor, but the prosecutor didn\u2019t like the fact that we weren\u2019t adopting the half-siblings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Sasha had an older half-brother and an older half-sister. Kim and Jahn knew about them; however, the brother was being adopted by another family. He was unavailable for them to visit. They did meet the sister, who was about to graduate from secondary school and attend a trade school. She told them she didn\u2019t want to be adopted. The de Blecourts, at that point, took the next step.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> We got the copies of the first proceeding. I processed Sasha to become Jake, out of the orphanage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you had the birth certificate, then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes, we had our \u201cGotcha Day\u201d on September 1, 2009, finally.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, again, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cSeptember 2<sup>nd<\/sup>, we\u2019ve got your airplane tickets and we\u2019re out of the country.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Not so fast! During that time, the prosecutor had filed a letter of intent to appeal, stating that he was going to appeal the fact that the judge set aside the law\u2014requiring that all sibling groups be adopted together\u2014and allow us only to adopt Sasha. So, in filing that letter of intent, he was supposed to have the appeal filed with the court. Well, he missed that date. They even gave him a couple of days after, and it didn\u2019t show up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the judge granted <em>us<\/em> his findings. We took it to the orphanage. We processed Jacob out of the orphanage. We were on our way back to Odessa. That was the only place in the entire country that we could get his birth certificate. The minute I walked into the office, the two women there started sobbing\u2014not just crying\u2014like screeching. It turns out that the prosecutor had called ahead and made sure they knew not to give me that birth certificate, no matter what!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To go against the judge\u2019s ruling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know what verbiage he used with them, but what I saw ahead of me were two very frightened women\u2014so much so that when I physically walked in the office, they lost it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim, what was going on here? Why was the prosecutor so intent on keeping this from happening? Do you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> We are never going to know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jahn flew back to the U.S. to go back to work\u2014they were out of money. Back in Ukraine, Kim actually began to be concerned for her own safety. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> What the facilitator came back and told me was that what he probably wanted to do was get rid of me. They wait until you leave your flat. Then, they plant the bags of heroine among your stuff. Then, when you come back, the police come back with the photographers. Then, you\u2019re gotten rid of. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Out of the country?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Usually in jail. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The American Embassy assisted as best they could, but they warned Kim that she would probably be arrested if she left her apartment. There were people who offered to help Kim sneak across the border to escape, but Kim and Jahn were determined to wait on the Lord\u2014to do things legally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> How were they going to see God in my walk if I tried to get ahead of them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They had no idea how long the wait would take. In March of 2010, Jahn flew back to Ukraine to attend a third court trial. The prosecutor, who had made life so difficult for them, was nowhere to be found. The judge proceeded with the trial, and Jake\u2019s adoption was approved again. There was another ten-day waiting period. Jahn flew back home; and then, everything began to pull together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Once God wants you out, He makes everything kind of click. What was supposed to be a couple of weeks\u2014you know, we had to go through the ten-day waiting period\u2014but after that, it can take another week or more to get everything that you need. That all happened for us within 48 hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> With all of the paperwork in order, Kim and the children traveled by train to Kiev, ready to purchase their tickets and to fly home. But at the airport, it became obvious that all the flights had been canceled. The de Blecourts were not flying anywhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> People are sitting around in small groups on the floor. They\u2019re crying. They\u2019re playing cards. Some are over here, drinking. I remember a young bride\u2014with a wedding dress across her lap, crying\u2014and what I took to be her intended sitting beside her. There are all of these little dramas playing out. One of the TV monitors in the Boryspil Airport, there in Kiev, had English subtitles. It was BBC. It said, \u201cEurope is immobilized.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Immobilized by the ash from the volcano in Iceland. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I actually talked out loud in English for the first time in months\u2014so much so that my own voice startled me. I said, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Apparently, God had more waiting for them to do. The next day, the flights were still postponed. Then the facilitator, Boris, called Kim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> He said: \u201cWhat are you still doing in country? Kim, you can\u2019t be here anymore. Remember, we thought that the prosecutor hadn\u2019t filed an appeal and everything was fine and everything?\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cOh, no! Where is this going?\u201d He is going: \u201cKim, he has checked your file back out of the courthouse. Kim, I don\u2019t think he\u2019s done with you, yet. Kim, you have to get your son across the border. We don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on\u2014who he knows, who he\u2019s paying, what connections he has\u2014but you can\u2019t be here anymore.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI don\u2019t know how to fly a plane, Boris! [Laughter] I don\u2019t know what else to do here.\u201d I\u2019m a little out of my area again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I said, \u201cI\u2019m going to call Adam\u2014an American father who works in Ukraine.\u201d He had been kind of taking care of us\u2014kind of overseeing us\u2014whether we were near to him or far. I thought he would know what to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said: \u201cLook! Look! We can\u2019t mess around. We can\u2019t wait for these planes. I believe what Boris is saying\u2014if he\u2019s picked up on anything\u2014we need to get you out of here! If you can\u2019t get on that plane tonight\u2014if it doesn\u2019t fly at 10 p.m. tonight\u2014you need to catch that last train from Kiev back to Odessa, and we\u2019ll drive you out.\u201d I said: \u201cI can\u2019t go back to the Odessa Oblast. Are you kidding? That\u2019s where the prosecutor has his power the most\u2014it is in that oblast. That\u2019s where he\u2019s from!\u201d \u201cKim, we\u2019re going to take care of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, the plane didn\u2019t fly. Sure enough, we caught that last train from Kiev, back into Odessa. It got in early the next morning\u2014on Sunday morning. And, sure enough, Adam was there with a man named Sasha. This man\u2014this Christian man\u2014\u2014Ukrainian\u2014took us in his little compact car and drove us to that border. He took our passports in for us, and he came back out to the car. He said: \u201cKim, there\u2019s a problem with your passport. You have to come inside with me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cMy passport!?\u201d I mean, we thought that the prosecutor would track us through Jake and his passport. We thought that if the warrant\u2014that the judge had already rescinded and made sure that everyone was supposed to know had been rescinded\u2014was still present, that it would be for Jake\u2019s return. So, it was very shocking that he was saying that there was a problem with <em>my<\/em> passport. Then, he said: \u201cYes, we need to leave the children here in the car. Come on, let\u2019s go!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cWhoa! No; nope, nope, nope! That\u2019s not happening. Come on kids, we need to go.\u201d He makes it very clear to me, \u201cNo, you need to come right now.\u201d He calls over a guard to stand by the car. He said: \u201cKim, I\u2019m going to lock the doors. Kim, this guard has given me his word. He is not leaving your children. Look, we\u2019re parked right in front of the guardhouse. I\u2019ve done everything I can. I\u2019m a father. You\u2019re going to have to trust me. Your kids are going to be okay. You have to get in here now!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had to do what I said I would never do. I had to get out of that car and walk away from my kids. [Emotion in voice] When I got inside, the officer, at the crossing, said, \u201cYou\u2019re under arrest.\u201d I had no idea what I was being arrested for\u2014I just knew that I wasn\u2019t going to stand up much longer. One of the young guards, there, got me a stool. I sat down on the stool, and this exchange went on between Sasha\u2014this Christian man\u2014and this officer. All I know is that, at the end of the exchange, the officer agreed with what Sasha said and he left. I never saw him again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat happened was\u2014he said: \u201cKim, I\u2019m going to go back out to the car to get all of my information and bring it back in to the officers here. I\u2019ll be right back.\u201d I said: \u201cAll of your information? What are you doing? Oh, tell the kids that I\u2019m okay, and don\u2019t tell them I\u2019ve been arrested. Don\u2019t mention anything like this.\u201d \u201cYes; yes.\u201d He goes, and he comes back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason that I\u2019m so upset is because a Ukrainian never gives up their information. They never want anyone, within the country, to have them on any kind of list for any reason. What he has done is he has laid down all of his information for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> He has taken personal responsibility for me so that I can continue on my journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That self-sacrificing act on the part of Kim\u2019s driver enabled them to cross the border into Moldova and to fly home without further trouble. Kim\u2019s perspective on her own story puts the focus back where it needs to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> God has an incredible heart for the orphan. God created family! What orphans <em>need<\/em> is a family. That\u2019s the message I believe that God wants this story to deliver. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And it\u2019s a story of the Father\u2019s love for us\u2014that He loved us enough He overcame obstacles, incomprehensible, to send His only Son to live a perfect life and then die on a cross for our sins\u2014which, even though you suffered great things, compared to what He suffered, it is nothing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Nothing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u2014to adopt us. We, as His children, are to express His heart, just as you have. I want to thank you for being on our broadcast and sharing this story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As you were talking about the link between us adopting children and God\u2019s adoption of us, I was thinking of Dr. Russell Moore\u2019s book called <em>Adopted for Life, <\/em>which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. It\u2019s a great book for parents who are thinking about adoption because it outlines a theological foundation for what it is that you are about to do. Dr. Moore and his wife understand it because they, themselves, are adoptive parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can look for the book, <em>Adopted for Life<\/em>, when you go to our website, which is FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. We also have copies of Kim de Blecourt\u2019s book called <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>\u2014that tells her story in an expanded way. Again, look for the book, <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>, when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, if you should have a little extra time over Memorial Day weekend, you might want to investigate the online sale that we have going on here on the Memorial Day holiday. You can find out about how you can save some money on resources designed to strengthen your marriage and your family\u2014how you can save money on attending a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> <sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; click the link\u2014for the Memorial Day sale\u2014for all of the information that we\u2019ll have available there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, let me remind you that, at the end of this week, we will wrap up the month of May. This is the month in which we have been asking listeners to consider making a special pre-summer donation to help support <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>and to help us take full advantage of the matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us this month. Every donation we receive in May is being matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $603,000. We still have a little ways to go, but we still have a little time. So, we\u2019re asking you if you would consider making an online donation today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation over the phone. In either case, we just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do to help support this ministry. Please pray for us\u2014that we will be able to take full advantage of this special matching-gift opportunity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope you can join us back again tomorrow. We\u2019ll have a former Marine joining us. His name is Donovan Campbell. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Donovan<\/strong>: Having served in the Corps, and watching the leadership principles that they apply here, and then taking a step back and say: \u201cWait a second! They\u2019re just applying the leadership principles that Christ taught us!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ll talk about that tomorrow. I hope you can tune in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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Kim says the guards were making her nervous\u2014really nervous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It\u2019s intimidating. The officers look very much like SS officers. They\u2019re dressed in long, black coats and very tall, brimmed black hats. They have automatic rifles on their shoulders. A couple of them will have not-friendly looking dogs on chains.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In the course of adopting her four-year-old son, Kim had been in this spot many times before, usually on a bus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> This day was different because this time I was in a passenger car, and we were leaving Ukraine. A warrant had been put out for my son. The prosecutor in our adoption case had put out an all-points bulletin, countrywide.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, May 27<sup>th<\/sup>, Memorial Day here in the United States. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Today, we\u2019ll hear a story of adoption and love\u2014a love that persists until everybody gets home safely. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Thanks for joining us on the Monday edition. We\u2019re going to hear a heroic story here today. We ought to stop and just acknowledge that, here in the United States, this is a day that honors heroism. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Memorial Day is a great day. It\u2019s good to see flags being draped around graveyards, honoring those who have given their lives on behalf of the freedom we enjoy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not just a day for the pool and the picnic\u2014it\u2019s a day that we ought to stop, and recall, and reflect on those who have given their lives for their country. If you\u2019re a family of a soldier\u2014a service person\u2014who paid the ultimate price\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I agree!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014we just want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d from a grateful country, \u201cfor your son, or daughter, or loved one\u2019s service to our country.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story we\u2019re going to hear today is a different kind of heroism, as I said, Dennis. This is heroism on the part of the orphan. I know that\u2019s a subject that, for years, has been dear to your heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I can pound the table about this. As you know, earlier this month, you and I had the privilege of going to Summit IX, which is a summit for orphans, foster care, and adoption. This year, we approached 3,000 people, there in Nashville, really giving voice to those who have none. Today, we\u2019re going to hear a story that\u2014well, I have to tell our listeners, on the front end, not every international adoption involves the Secret Service.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, most of them don\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, this is quite a story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim de Blecourt blogs for a ministry that she leads called Nourished Hearts. She is an orphan advocate. She and her husband Jahn have been married since 1997. They have two children, Jacey and Jake. They live in Michigan. The story we\u2019ll hear is a story she tells in the book <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor Kim and Jahn de Blecourt, adopting their son Jake in the spring of 2010 was the culmination of a long and arduous process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I can tell you, without hesitation, that ours is not the normal path.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim traces her heart for adoption back to a mission trip she went on with a group from her church in 2006. The trip was to the Odessa region of Ukraine. After more than two weeks of ministry and outreach, they spent a little time, their last day in the city of Odessa, doing some sightseeing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I was coming back up the Potemkin Stairs\u2014the famous staircase in Ukraine. There was a group of children\u2014that I knew, immediately\u2014nobody has to explain this to you when you see street children\u2014the immense coatings of dirt on their skin, the condition of their nails\u2014when you see them\u2014you know what they are. They were approaching me for money. I was warned off by someone in the group. He said: \u201cNo, no, no. You can\u2019t give them money. It\u2019s actually more dangerous for you to give them money. They could be rolled for it later on. We don\u2019t know what they\u2019re going to do with it. Somebody else may be collecting it from them on the other end. Really, it\u2019s just not a good idea.\u201d They didn\u2019t shoo the children along, they just kind of collected us back to themselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many children were there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Three\u2014three boys. That was my first run-in with the orphan condition in another country. It broke my heart. God broke my heart for the orphan on that very day. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim and Jahn already had a daughter, Jacey, but the street children in Odessa were awakening something new in Kim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> You know how God works with pebbles? That was the first pebble at my window. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Contrary to the usual reluctant husband pattern, Jahn was fully-onboard with Kim\u2019s new vision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> You have to understand the incredible man that I\u2019m married to. He said, \u201cYou know, I have been thinking the same thing!\u201d God had already been ahead of me. He said: \u201cYou know, we really need to pray about this, Kim. We really need to look into this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They turned to the same place most people get information about adoption. They went to the internet. They discovered that Ukraine was closed to international adoption. So, at that point, they explored other alternatives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It took us about a year, upfront, just to get through the fact that we weren\u2019t going to adopt from Ukraine: \u201cWell, okay; then, what are we going to do? Are we going to adopt from another country? Well, let\u2019s look at the children here in our own country.\u201d So we looked at and flirted with domestic adoption. We had women choosing us because here\u2014it\u2019s the other way\u2014birth mothers choose the family. There was no settledness\u2014there was no peace with that decision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery time a birth mother would choose us, something would always stop it. Then, Ukraine reopened. We thought, \u201cOh, well, that\u2019s why!\u201d We had prayed long and hard that we would know the child that we were to adopt because, in Ukraine, it\u2019s a little bit different. They hand you a number of file folders, and they have <em>you <\/em>choose whom you\u2019re going to go visit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Talk about looking at pictures of kids and reading about their backgrounds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes, and can I just tell you how demeaning the whole process feels?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It just felt dehumanizing or something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The clinical approach to adoption made the de Blecourts feel like they were almost shopping for a child. The information they were given was sometimes unreliable, if not downright false. Kim said that, for parents trying to adopt wisely, the system felt like it was stacked against them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> It very much seems one-sided. They want to place these children in families. I can\u2019t always say that a lot of thought or concern is given as far as, \u201cWill this child be a good fit in that family?\u201d and, \u201cWill this family be able to give the child the care that they deserve?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> With a mother\u2019s heart\u2014with a parent\u2019s heart\u2014all you can see, in front of you, are these children who are so excited when you look them in the eye for the briefest of time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> And all of these children, around you, with their needs not being hidden.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want to take all of them home!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Exactly! And they\u2019re all calling you \u201cMama\u201d and \u201cPapa\u201d. That\u2019s what they tell them to call you. You\u2019re sitting there, trying to make a discerning, God-like decision for your family. That\u2019s all you want to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It took more than a month for Jahn, and Kim, and Jacey to find Sasha\u2014an almost four-year-old boy\u2014who would later become Jake de Blecourt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> The moment he came in the room, and was standing there, and he was kind of looking at us like: \u201cWho are you? Why are you here?\u201d\u2014kind of a, \u201cI don\u2019t know you,\u201d kind of look\u2014Jahn turned to me and said, \u201cThis is our son!\u201d We both knew. That thing that we had prayed for\u2014for all of those months before\u2014God delivered in a way that was beyond our reasoning. We couldn\u2019t understand how we both knew, but we did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In a typical Ukrainian adoption, at this point in the process, when the adoptive parents have said, \u201cYes,\u201d to a particular child, there\u2019s a court hearing; there\u2019s a judge\u2019s decision; and then, there\u2019s a ten-day waiting period to allow for appeals or other legal challenges. Then, there\u2019s more paperwork until the child is ultimately issued a visa to travel to the United States.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt all ought to take about two weeks, but the de Blecourts were on a different path. They had no idea the ordeal they were about to undergo.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> The judge ruled in our favor, but the prosecutor didn\u2019t like the fact that we weren\u2019t adopting the half-siblings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Sasha had an older half-brother and an older half-sister. Kim and Jahn knew about them; however, the brother was being adopted by another family. He was unavailable for them to visit. They did meet the sister, who was about to graduate from secondary school and attend a trade school. She told them she didn\u2019t want to be adopted. The de Blecourts, at that point, took the next step.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> We got the copies of the first proceeding. I processed Sasha to become Jake, out of the orphanage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, you had the birth certificate, then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes, we had our \u201cGotcha Day\u201d on September 1, 2009, finally.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, again, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cSeptember 2<sup>nd<\/sup>, we\u2019ve got your airplane tickets and we\u2019re out of the country.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Not so fast! During that time, the prosecutor had filed a letter of intent to appeal, stating that he was going to appeal the fact that the judge set aside the law\u2014requiring that all sibling groups be adopted together\u2014and allow us only to adopt Sasha. So, in filing that letter of intent, he was supposed to have the appeal filed with the court. Well, he missed that date. They even gave him a couple of days after, and it didn\u2019t show up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the judge granted <em>us<\/em> his findings. We took it to the orphanage. We processed Jacob out of the orphanage. We were on our way back to Odessa. That was the only place in the entire country that we could get his birth certificate. The minute I walked into the office, the two women there started sobbing\u2014not just crying\u2014like screeching. It turns out that the prosecutor had called ahead and made sure they knew not to give me that birth certificate, no matter what!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To go against the judge\u2019s ruling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know what verbiage he used with them, but what I saw ahead of me were two very frightened women\u2014so much so that when I physically walked in the office, they lost it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kim, what was going on here? Why was the prosecutor so intent on keeping this from happening? Do you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> We are never going to know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jahn flew back to the U.S. to go back to work\u2014they were out of money. Back in Ukraine, Kim actually began to be concerned for her own safety. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> What the facilitator came back and told me was that what he probably wanted to do was get rid of me. They wait until you leave your flat. Then, they plant the bags of heroine among your stuff. Then, when you come back, the police come back with the photographers. Then, you\u2019re gotten rid of. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Out of the country?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Usually in jail. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The American Embassy assisted as best they could, but they warned Kim that she would probably be arrested if she left her apartment. There were people who offered to help Kim sneak across the border to escape, but Kim and Jahn were determined to wait on the Lord\u2014to do things legally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> How were they going to see God in my walk if I tried to get ahead of them? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They had no idea how long the wait would take. In March of 2010, Jahn flew back to Ukraine to attend a third court trial. The prosecutor, who had made life so difficult for them, was nowhere to be found. The judge proceeded with the trial, and Jake\u2019s adoption was approved again. There was another ten-day waiting period. Jahn flew back home; and then, everything began to pull together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Once God wants you out, He makes everything kind of click. What was supposed to be a couple of weeks\u2014you know, we had to go through the ten-day waiting period\u2014but after that, it can take another week or more to get everything that you need. That all happened for us within 48 hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> With all of the paperwork in order, Kim and the children traveled by train to Kiev, ready to purchase their tickets and to fly home. But at the airport, it became obvious that all the flights had been canceled. The de Blecourts were not flying anywhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> People are sitting around in small groups on the floor. They\u2019re crying. They\u2019re playing cards. Some are over here, drinking. I remember a young bride\u2014with a wedding dress across her lap, crying\u2014and what I took to be her intended sitting beside her. There are all of these little dramas playing out. One of the TV monitors in the Boryspil Airport, there in Kiev, had English subtitles. It was BBC. It said, \u201cEurope is immobilized.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Immobilized by the ash from the volcano in Iceland. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I actually talked out loud in English for the first time in months\u2014so much so that my own voice startled me. I said, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Apparently, God had more waiting for them to do. The next day, the flights were still postponed. Then the facilitator, Boris, called Kim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> He said: \u201cWhat are you still doing in country? Kim, you can\u2019t be here anymore. Remember, we thought that the prosecutor hadn\u2019t filed an appeal and everything was fine and everything?\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cOh, no! Where is this going?\u201d He is going: \u201cKim, he has checked your file back out of the courthouse. Kim, I don\u2019t think he\u2019s done with you, yet. Kim, you have to get your son across the border. We don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on\u2014who he knows, who he\u2019s paying, what connections he has\u2014but you can\u2019t be here anymore.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI don\u2019t know how to fly a plane, Boris! [Laughter] I don\u2019t know what else to do here.\u201d I\u2019m a little out of my area again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> I said, \u201cI\u2019m going to call Adam\u2014an American father who works in Ukraine.\u201d He had been kind of taking care of us\u2014kind of overseeing us\u2014whether we were near to him or far. I thought he would know what to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said: \u201cLook! Look! We can\u2019t mess around. We can\u2019t wait for these planes. I believe what Boris is saying\u2014if he\u2019s picked up on anything\u2014we need to get you out of here! If you can\u2019t get on that plane tonight\u2014if it doesn\u2019t fly at 10 p.m. tonight\u2014you need to catch that last train from Kiev back to Odessa, and we\u2019ll drive you out.\u201d I said: \u201cI can\u2019t go back to the Odessa Oblast. Are you kidding? That\u2019s where the prosecutor has his power the most\u2014it is in that oblast. That\u2019s where he\u2019s from!\u201d \u201cKim, we\u2019re going to take care of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, the plane didn\u2019t fly. Sure enough, we caught that last train from Kiev, back into Odessa. It got in early the next morning\u2014on Sunday morning. And, sure enough, Adam was there with a man named Sasha. This man\u2014this Christian man\u2014\u2014Ukrainian\u2014took us in his little compact car and drove us to that border. He took our passports in for us, and he came back out to the car. He said: \u201cKim, there\u2019s a problem with your passport. You have to come inside with me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cMy passport!?\u201d I mean, we thought that the prosecutor would track us through Jake and his passport. We thought that if the warrant\u2014that the judge had already rescinded and made sure that everyone was supposed to know had been rescinded\u2014was still present, that it would be for Jake\u2019s return. So, it was very shocking that he was saying that there was a problem with <em>my<\/em> passport. Then, he said: \u201cYes, we need to leave the children here in the car. Come on, let\u2019s go!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cWhoa! No; nope, nope, nope! That\u2019s not happening. Come on kids, we need to go.\u201d He makes it very clear to me, \u201cNo, you need to come right now.\u201d He calls over a guard to stand by the car. He said: \u201cKim, I\u2019m going to lock the doors. Kim, this guard has given me his word. He is not leaving your children. Look, we\u2019re parked right in front of the guardhouse. I\u2019ve done everything I can. I\u2019m a father. You\u2019re going to have to trust me. Your kids are going to be okay. You have to get in here now!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had to do what I said I would never do. I had to get out of that car and walk away from my kids. [Emotion in voice] When I got inside, the officer, at the crossing, said, \u201cYou\u2019re under arrest.\u201d I had no idea what I was being arrested for\u2014I just knew that I wasn\u2019t going to stand up much longer. One of the young guards, there, got me a stool. I sat down on the stool, and this exchange went on between Sasha\u2014this Christian man\u2014and this officer. All I know is that, at the end of the exchange, the officer agreed with what Sasha said and he left. I never saw him again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat happened was\u2014he said: \u201cKim, I\u2019m going to go back out to the car to get all of my information and bring it back in to the officers here. I\u2019ll be right back.\u201d I said: \u201cAll of your information? What are you doing? Oh, tell the kids that I\u2019m okay, and don\u2019t tell them I\u2019ve been arrested. Don\u2019t mention anything like this.\u201d \u201cYes; yes.\u201d He goes, and he comes back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason that I\u2019m so upset is because a Ukrainian never gives up their information. They never want anyone, within the country, to have them on any kind of list for any reason. What he has done is he has laid down all of his information for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> He has taken personal responsibility for me so that I can continue on my journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That self-sacrificing act on the part of Kim\u2019s driver enabled them to cross the border into Moldova and to fly home without further trouble. Kim\u2019s perspective on her own story puts the focus back where it needs to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> God has an incredible heart for the orphan. God created family! What orphans <em>need<\/em> is a family. That\u2019s the message I believe that God wants this story to deliver. [Emotion in voice]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And it\u2019s a story of the Father\u2019s love for us\u2014that He loved us enough He overcame obstacles, incomprehensible, to send His only Son to live a perfect life and then die on a cross for our sins\u2014which, even though you suffered great things, compared to what He suffered, it is nothing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Nothing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u2014to adopt us. We, as His children, are to express His heart, just as you have. I want to thank you for being on our broadcast and sharing this story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As you were talking about the link between us adopting children and God\u2019s adoption of us, I was thinking of Dr. Russell Moore\u2019s book called <em>Adopted for Life, <\/em>which we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. It\u2019s a great book for parents who are thinking about adoption because it outlines a theological foundation for what it is that you are about to do. Dr. Moore and his wife understand it because they, themselves, are adoptive parents.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can look for the book, <em>Adopted for Life<\/em>, when you go to our website, which is FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. We also have copies of Kim de Blecourt\u2019s book called <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>\u2014that tells her story in an expanded way. Again, look for the book, <em>Until We All Come Home<\/em>, when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, if you should have a little extra time over Memorial Day weekend, you might want to investigate the online sale that we have going on here on the Memorial Day holiday. You can find out about how you can save some money on resources designed to strengthen your marriage and your family\u2014how you can save money on attending a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> <sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; click the link\u2014for the Memorial Day sale\u2014for all of the information that we\u2019ll have available there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, let me remind you that, at the end of this week, we will wrap up the month of May. This is the month in which we have been asking listeners to consider making a special pre-summer donation to help support <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>and to help us take full advantage of the matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us this month. Every donation we receive in May is being matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $603,000. We still have a little ways to go, but we still have a little time. So, we\u2019re asking you if you would consider making an online donation today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation over the phone. In either case, we just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do to help support this ministry. Please pray for us\u2014that we will be able to take full advantage of this special matching-gift opportunity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope you can join us back again tomorrow. We\u2019ll have a former Marine joining us. His name is Donovan Campbell. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Donovan<\/strong>: Having served in the Corps, and watching the leadership principles that they apply here, and then taking a step back and say: \u201cWait a second! They\u2019re just applying the leadership principles that Christ taught us!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ll talk about that tomorrow. I hope you can tune in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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