{"id":302718,"date":"2013-04-18T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-04-18T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/on-the-road-to-recovery\/"},"modified":"2013-04-18T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-04-18T15:00:00","slug":"on-the-road-to-recovery","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/on-the-road-to-recovery\/","title":{"rendered":"On the Road to Recovery"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bob and Karrie tell Dennis how God&#8217;s power and love began to break the spell of their addictions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-04-18.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"21.76M","filesize_raw":"22818824","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2840],"tags":[2872,4897,4465,2989],"podcast_series":[7469],"cwp_profile":[9028],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302718","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-addiction","tag-addiction","tag-alcohol-abuse","tag-drugs","tag-pornography","podcast_series-celebrating-recovery","cwp_profile-bob-and-karrie-wood","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302718\/on-the-road-to-recovery","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302718\/on-the-road-to-recovery","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"4ERT2CMbtR\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/on-the-road-to-recovery\/\">On the Road to Recovery<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/on-the-road-to-recovery\/embed\/#?secret=4ERT2CMbtR\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;On the Road to Recovery&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"4ERT2CMbtR\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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They put together an intervention to try to get him some help, and that was Step One.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> After that intervention, it\u2019s still a little bit fuzzy on exactly what happened, but at some point I walked into a recovery meeting. It was there I met a Christian man who brought me to Celebrate Recovery; and it\u2019s at Celebrate Recovery that I realized that going to meetings alone was not enough, that I needed a relationship with Jesus Christ that would transform me from the inside out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, April 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Meeting Jesus Christ didn\u2019t just change Bob Wood\u2019s behavior; it changed his whole life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. Have you ever thought about the relationship between the children\u2019s nursery rhyme, <em>Humpty Dumpty<\/em>, and the Christian life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, I actually have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> That\u2019s kind of interesting, isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \u201cHumpty Dumpty sat on a wall, had a great fall; and all the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men couldn\u2019t put Humpty together again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I remember Ashley, our firstborn daughter, coming home from junior high one day talking about all of her teenage peers; and she described herself as standing on top of the wall with all of her peers pulling at her, trying to get her to fall off and to break.\u00a0 And, you know, if the peers aren\u2019t successful, there are plenty of choices we make as individuals\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to add plenty of cracks in the fall.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine: <\/strong>And it\u2019s true that it may be that all the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men can\u2019t put you back together again, but the King\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014the King can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> \u2014the King can put you back together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And the King has some methods of putting us back together. He uses other people to do that; and we have a couple of\u2014well, a couple who are a King\u2019s man and a King\u2019s woman. Bob and Karrie Wood join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Thank you. I\u2019m glad to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s good to be with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You never thought of yourselves as being those who put Humpty Dumpty back together again\u2014did you\u2014through your ministry, Celebrate Recovery?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> I\u2019ll never look at that nursery rhyme the same again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> That may become our new standard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine: <\/strong>There we go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, you know, someone described us in a poem\u2014I forget the name of the poem\u2014but what Jesus Christ does is He takes the broken pieces, and He uses gold.\u00a0 He uses gold to cement the pieces back together. And so when the sun shines you see the points where it\u2019s been broken, but there is a reflection.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s a brilliance there, and that\u2019s what Christ does when He redeems our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And you guys have experienced that in your own lives. In fact, it was through the ministry of Celebrate Recovery, which is a ministry that\u2019s taking place in thousands of churches all across the country\u2014but you were out at Saddleback Church in California in a Celebrate Recovery group when God started putting those pieces back together in your lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd today, you are helping to keep that going in other\u2019s lives as you lead a Celebrate Recovery movement in a local church in Little Rock and in other churches around the state of Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou both came from very broken backgrounds, and you met when you showed up together at Celebrate Recovery, didn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes, we did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Do you remember that first night when you looked across the room and there was Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Actually, it was looking across a picnic bench at our Celebrate Recovery barbecue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Yes? Tell me about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Well, both Bob and I had been in recovery for about a year and a half, almost two years; and both of us had grown quite a lot in our walk with Christ\u2014I want to make sure everyone knows that. But before our meetings, we always have a mealtime to fellowship and get together; and there was this very handsome, long-haired gentleman with these bright blue eyes cooking hamburgers and hot dogs, and I thought\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That, I assume, was Bob, not another guy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> It definitely was Bob. (Laughter) \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> His hair is not too long right now, though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>And I saw those baby blues, and I knew he was the one for me. It just kind of took off from there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Now, Karrie, in case our listeners weren\u2019t with us earlier, share with them why you were in Celebrate Recovery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> I was in Celebrate Recovery\u2014or am still in Celebrate Recovery\u2014because of a background of physical, sexual, emotional abuse and an eating disorder; and came to a complete crash in my life, and God led me to this ministry to keep me together and make me whole again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And, Bob, you were there because you\u2019d had a background of sexual sin, of drug and alcohol use. You were using crystal meth pretty much every day at the time that things started crashing down for you. And you talk about having been in recovery for a year and a half, two years, at this point. What does that mean? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDoes that mean you\u2019re getting better?\u00a0 Does that mean you\u2019re fine?\u00a0 Does that mean you\u2019ve stopped sinful patterns but now you\u2019re dealing with it\u2014what\u2019s going on when you\u2019ve been in recovery for a year? What\u2019s that mean?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Well, for me, it meant that I was learning to now do it God\u2019s way instead of my way. Joining a Celebrate Recovery that first day did not guarantee that everything was going to be completely well and 100%\u2014go to one meeting and off you go and life is wonderful. I truly believe that God can remove things from my life and He can restore me, but He also wants me to deal with those defects of my character and to learn more about Him and to go through this process of what I call sanctification. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And so, it was in the midst of that process of sanctification that old Mr. Blue Eyes here laid his peepers on you, and you said, \u201cHe\u2019s the one for me.\u201d\u00a0 What did you think, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> When I first saw her I thought, \u201cThere\u2019s no way that she would go out with a guy like me.\u201d I couldn\u2019t imagine being with a woman so beautiful and so sweet and so kind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Was it at that same barbecue that you noticed her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> That\u2019s when I kind of started getting an eye for her but not to the point where I would actually pursue her. Because I had made so many bad choices in the past, I didn\u2019t want to allow my emotions to dictate the relationships I was going to have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> How long had you been in Celebrate Recovery at this point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> It had been about a year and a half, two years. We both came in around the same time but didn\u2019t notice each other when we first started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And how did you get there? Because your parents had come to you with an intervention\u2014they had tried to press the issue in your life and say, \u201cYou are headed down a path of destruction.\u201d You had wadded up the paper that they had written down their intervention notes on, you\u2019d thrown it in their face, and you\u2019d walked out. What happened from that moment until you wound up at Saddleback Church learning about Jesus and recovery?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> After that intervention it\u2019s still a little bit fuzzy on exactly what happened, but at some point several days later I walked into a recovery meeting. It was there I met a Christian man who brought me to Celebrate Recovery. And it\u2019s at Celebrate Recovery that I realized that going to meetings alone was not enough, that I needed a relationship with Jesus Christ that would transform me from the inside out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> When you say it\u2019s a little fuzzy, I\u2019ve heard alcoholics talk about a lost weekend.\u00a0 Did that intervention experience with your parents, do you think that led you to some binging that just left you without memory for what happened over those days? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I think it left me continuing in my addiction; but I think in the process those words sank in and the heart that they shared it with me sank in. I couldn\u2019t deny anymore their love for me, and I finally realized that my life was out of control and I needed help. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Was there a point when it literally broke your heart that you had broken their hearts? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you break emotionally? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> I broke emotionally, and it was painful to think about all the harm and all the hurt that I had caused them for so many years because of my drug addiction. I couldn\u2019t believe that I would allow myself to make so many bad choices to hurt them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you go back to them at that point and ask for their forgiveness? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> As I continued through the recovery process, I did, and I was able to make amends to them. It was quite some time into the recovery process because I wanted them to see that my \u201csorry\u201d wasn\u2019t just \u201cI\u2019m sorry\u201d again; but my sorry was backed with action and that my life was truly changing and that they could see something different in me, so that I had a living amends, not just a verbal amends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And when you gave your life to Christ, describe that moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I can still see it as if it was yesterday. I asked a gentleman in the recovery meeting that I was with if he would describe to me what it meant to have a relationship with this God that we were talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he took me, for about three hours, through the Scriptures and described \u201cIn the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth\u201d\u2014I never heard that before\u2014and then, brought me to the cross and what Jesus Christ did for me by dying on the cross for all the stuff that I had done to my family, all the stuff I had done to myself, all the stuff that I had done to others. And if I wanted a relationship with Him, all I had to do was ask Him into my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And at that point, was your faith in Christ translated into an experience that marked you? Or was there just a confirmation of His peace, that you knew you\u2019d been forgiven and that you were now a new creature in Christ? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> I felt that peace. I knew something different happened that day. Something in me was different that day, and I knew my life was changed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was the big tipoff in the days that followed that Jesus Christ now resided in you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I think the first was having a hunger and thirst for God\u2019s Word and having a desire to get to know Him better through His Word, the desire to continue on in the recovery process, the desire to go to church.\u00a0 I never wanted to go to church ever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And be around those people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> And be around those people in church. I finally began seeing that a relationship with Christ was so different than anything I ever thought it was; and joining recovery and getting involved in the recovery groups I was at was a whole course correction in my life. One of the things that they told me when I got there was I had to change my people, places, and playthings. I had to begin doing things differently. Everything had to change in my life, not just some things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you began with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That's what Celebrate Recovery is all about. It\u2019s people being accountable and people telling their story with other people and getting honest about their struggles and their weaknesses and where they\u2019re failing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I felt like, for the first time, that I belonged with a group of people. I didn\u2019t need to impress them; I didn\u2019t need to please them in any way. All I had to do was show up and be me, and they would love me and accept me exactly where I was at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Did your meth use taper off? Did it just kind of wane over the next several weeks or months? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>My meth use stopped immediately after my experience with Jesus Christ. I still had an urge or a craving to use drugs even after that experience with Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, because you'd been using drugs for how long?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Ten years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Almost every day? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Almost every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> So, patterns were still there, desires, the physical urges were still there; but you now had the strength and the resources to be able to turn away from those things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>Right. By getting connected with a group of people that could encourage me, that could support me, that understood what it was like to feel what I was feeling, gave me the strength that I needed to continue on and not turn back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Karrie, when we last heard from you, you had just shown up at Celebrate Recovery and had come to faith in Christ. What did recovery look like for you in those first few months of the process? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Those first few months were very scary for me because going to Celebrate Recovery was realizing that my life might change\u2014and it did, praise God\u2014but living life the same way scared me even more. So I joined Celebrate Recovery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring those first few months, I started to realize what true unconditional love was all about, and I knew that stemmed from my relationship with Jesus Christ. But what was amazing is He used the people in my life to show me His love. He gave me a body of people that could support me and understand and who have been down that path with me and take me by the hand and walk through this path with me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I had mentioned earlier in my story that I had made a vow to myself that each time I was hurt so deeply, I would never allow myself to be hurt that deeply again. What is amazing was during those first couple of months, that vow started to crack because I had a Savior in my life that showed me that I could trust Him; and that it wasn\u2019t as necessary to hold onto it so deeply. And through recovery that vow cracked completely, and I know only God could have done that for me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it was a slow process of learning to trust, to be open, to disclose, and to allow others to love me and trust them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And one man you did allow to take your hand\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and let you in was old Blue Eyes down here. (Laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> I was thinking about old Blue Eyes. What\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How did you finally ask her out, because you were thinking about how you could\u2014she wouldn\u2019t give you the time of day; but you finally risked it and asked her out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>We actually had a mutual friend that gave me her phone number and told me that she was interested in me. I\u2019ll never forget how I felt. I felt like I was in high school again and nervous and not sure what to do and finally called her and invited her to a party that we were going to go to, a Labor Day party with a bunch of recovery friends. So, we were in our safe environment in beginning this process of dating together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> But didn\u2019t the process of dating scare both of you a little bit?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> It did for me because before I came into recovery, I vowed I was never going to get married again. I had actually, even as a little girl, seen divorce so much, I told myself I would never get divorced; and having had a divorce in my life, I felt very defeated. And I thought, \u201cYou know, I\u2019m never going to get divorced again.\u201d I became content with myself, me and God were one; and I wasn\u2019t expecting this blue-eyed gentleman over here to come into my life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, when he did, I was excited; but then, it dawned on me that he was in recovery for alcoholism; and recovery had taught me to look for patterns. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what I did was, I continued to pray about it. I went to all of my support. I went to my pastor. I told him the situation, and the last person I went to\u2014her name was Lisa\u2014and I had shared with her that I had feelings for this gentleman in recovery; but I really needed to know everything about him. Were there any ghosts in his closet? Was he a good man? I drilled her with many, many questions; and before I even had a chance to finish, she said, \u201cOh, my gosh, I wish I had thought of this before. You would be perfect for each other.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd she ran off that next day and told him I liked him, and it went from there. But, yes, I was nervous; but I was excited because I knew that we both had recovery and God was leading it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So I want to know, how did you ask her to marry you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>This is quite a story. There's a cross in La Jolla, California, that stands about 30 feet tall on top of a hill with a 360-degree view; and I found out about this place through a conversation I overhead somebody talking about. So, I went down there at three o\u2019clock in the morning, so I could watch the sun rise and check out the view. I realized that was exactly where God wanted us to be engaged.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI woke her up, three o\u2019clock in the morning, went over to her apartment, had her throw on some clothes. We went and picked up some doughnut holes and coffee and just drove. She had no idea where we were going or what we were going to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd as I was driving down there, we hit a fog bank\u2014as is common in the San Diego area\u2014and I thought that was going to ruin the moment. I started praying, and I just asked God, \u201cWould you please give me a clearing so that we can take in Your incredible view?\u201d Right as I said, \u201cAmen,\u201d the fog stopped; and we rose above it and had a perfect 360-degree view as the sunrise came up over the mountains in the distance and glistened with gold and purple, and I asked her to be my wife that day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Now, we have to understand, though, especially with ladies, is I must have loved him to have him wake me up that early in the morning \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Throw on some clothes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And to trust him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>And to trust him\u2014and keep in mind that when women are meant to be\u2014or thinking they\u2019re going to be engaged, they\u2019re usually dressed up and looking their best; and, no, I had my hair pulled up in a ponytail and a raggedy old sweatshirt with stains and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> No makeup.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> No makeup. I was just a mess, and I was not prepared for that. So I was definitely a surprised woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> You thought it was just going to be doughnut holes and coffee?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Doughnut holes and coffee, and we were going somewhere. I didn't know where. But I saw him get very distressed as we were going along, and I was very concerned about why. But then when we passed the clouds, he seemed so happy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we got there, we sat at the base of the cross; and he said, \u201cYou know, I just want to read some Scriptures to you.\u201d I said, \u201cOkay,\u201d because we had prayed a lot together up to this point. So he started sharing some really amazing Scriptures about how God had changed us and we were new people and how God intended for man and woman to be together and all those romantic Scriptures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Were you thinking it was\u2014here it\u2019s coming?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Well, at first I was thinking, \u201cThat\u2019s awfully sweet.\u201d Then when he asked me to move to the bench on this cliff, I thought, \u201cSomething must be up.\u201d And he said, \u201cWell, let\u2019s pray some more.\u201d I said, \u201cOkay.\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWow, he\u2019s very spiritual today.\u201d He really wanted to do a lot of praying.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, during that prayer time, he went even further; and I sense, all of a sudden, he wasn\u2019t sitting next to me. I looked down, and he was kneeling in this big, huge mud puddle just weeping with this ring in front of me. And I knew at that moment he was a man I had never, ever thought God would give me. He is an absolute blessing. And what was amazing about him for me is that he has taught me what a godly man is all about. God has used him in that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, I think the great story we\u2019ve heard from both of you is that God can indeed take Humpty Dumpty, who has fallen off the wall; and the King can put the pieces back together again and He can take two broken vessels and turn them into one\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and turn them into one for His glory; because that\u2019s what you\u2019re doing by using your failure, your weakness\u2014drugs, alcohol, eating disorders\u2014and you\u2019ve turned that into, now, a ministry, Celebrate Recovery. And I think many of our listeners have gained hope and help and healing from listening to your story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I hope they\u2019ll take it one step further. I really hope that there will be hundreds in churches all across the country who will join arms with Celebrate Recovery and start one of these accountability groups that fellowships around the living Lord Jesus Christ and around authentic relationships where people get real about their own lives and about their own mistakes, and they find that hope and that healing and that help that you all found.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> And what these churches need to know as well is there are thousands of women just like me when I first started 12 years ago, that are broken and lost and have no hope; and unless these churches open up their doors and make it a safe place for people like me to come to, they\u2019re going to continue to live their life without purpose\u2014because the man and the woman that you see here today, we\u2019re not the same woman and man of 12 years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And a lot of churches over the last decade have begun to make Celebrate Recovery a part of what they are doing as an outreach in the community, as a way to not just engage with people who are outside of the church, but to help people in the church who have struggled with besetting sin, with addictive behavior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com if folks want more information about Celebrate Recovery. You can go to our website, click on the \u201cCELEBRATE RECOVERY\u201d link, find out where there is a group meeting near you or how you can start a group in your church or in your community. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about the ministry of Celebrate Recovery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you might want to go this weekend to see the movie that\u2019s coming out in theaters called <em>Home Run<\/em> because Celebrate Recovery plays a key role in that movie. It\u2019s about a pro-athlete, a baseball player, who has a substance abuse issue and winds up in a recovery program, and it happens to be Celebrate Recovery. And he ultimately hears the Gospel and responds to his need for Christ in the movie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s really a well-done film that I had a chance to see recently and would encourage our listeners to go this weekend to see the movie, <em>Home Run<\/em>, which is opening in local theaters all around the country. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, we want to commend to you a book by our friend, Dr. Ed Welch. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Addictions: A Banquet in the Grave<\/em> that we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. It may be a book that you need to read or something you can pass on to a friend, but you can find out more about how to get a copy of the book when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can simply call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Ask about the book <em>Addictions<\/em> by Ed Welch, and we can take care of getting a copy of that book sent to you. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I mentioned our friend, Ed Welch. He was here not long ago. We talked about the whole subject of addictions and recorded the conversation. This month, we have been making that CD available to listeners who can help support this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI trust our listeners understand that the cost for producing and syndicating this daily program is not covered by advertisers\u2014you don\u2019t hear any commercials during <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. It\u2019s covered by folks like you who pitch in from time to time or become Legacy Partners to help support us on a monthly basis. You are the folks who make this program possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you can help us with a donation today, we\u2019d like to send you a copy of the CD with the conversation with Ed Welch as our way of saying thank you for your financial support. We appreciate your partnership with us and look forward to hearing from you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can go to FamilyLifeToday.com, click the button that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d and make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make a donation over the phone and just ask for the CD with Ed Welch or the CD on addictions when you make your donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk with Jedd Medefind. Jedd is the head of the Christian Alliance for Orphans, and coming up in a couple of weeks in Nashville they\u2019re going to be hosting an event called the Orphans Summit. Dennis and I are going to be there. 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They put together an intervention to try to get him some help, and that was Step One.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> After that intervention, it\u2019s still a little bit fuzzy on exactly what happened, but at some point I walked into a recovery meeting. It was there I met a Christian man who brought me to Celebrate Recovery; and it\u2019s at Celebrate Recovery that I realized that going to meetings alone was not enough, that I needed a relationship with Jesus Christ that would transform me from the inside out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, April 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Meeting Jesus Christ didn\u2019t just change Bob Wood\u2019s behavior; it changed his whole life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. Have you ever thought about the relationship between the children\u2019s nursery rhyme, <em>Humpty Dumpty<\/em>, and the Christian life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, I actually have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> That\u2019s kind of interesting, isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \u201cHumpty Dumpty sat on a wall, had a great fall; and all the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men couldn\u2019t put Humpty together again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I remember Ashley, our firstborn daughter, coming home from junior high one day talking about all of her teenage peers; and she described herself as standing on top of the wall with all of her peers pulling at her, trying to get her to fall off and to break.\u00a0 And, you know, if the peers aren\u2019t successful, there are plenty of choices we make as individuals\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to add plenty of cracks in the fall.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine: <\/strong>And it\u2019s true that it may be that all the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men can\u2019t put you back together again, but the King\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014the King can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> \u2014the King can put you back together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And the King has some methods of putting us back together. He uses other people to do that; and we have a couple of\u2014well, a couple who are a King\u2019s man and a King\u2019s woman. Bob and Karrie Wood join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Thank you. I\u2019m glad to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s good to be with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You never thought of yourselves as being those who put Humpty Dumpty back together again\u2014did you\u2014through your ministry, Celebrate Recovery?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> I\u2019ll never look at that nursery rhyme the same again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> That may become our new standard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine: <\/strong>There we go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, you know, someone described us in a poem\u2014I forget the name of the poem\u2014but what Jesus Christ does is He takes the broken pieces, and He uses gold.\u00a0 He uses gold to cement the pieces back together. And so when the sun shines you see the points where it\u2019s been broken, but there is a reflection.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There\u2019s a brilliance there, and that\u2019s what Christ does when He redeems our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And you guys have experienced that in your own lives. In fact, it was through the ministry of Celebrate Recovery, which is a ministry that\u2019s taking place in thousands of churches all across the country\u2014but you were out at Saddleback Church in California in a Celebrate Recovery group when God started putting those pieces back together in your lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd today, you are helping to keep that going in other\u2019s lives as you lead a Celebrate Recovery movement in a local church in Little Rock and in other churches around the state of Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou both came from very broken backgrounds, and you met when you showed up together at Celebrate Recovery, didn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes, we did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Do you remember that first night when you looked across the room and there was Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Actually, it was looking across a picnic bench at our Celebrate Recovery barbecue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Yes? Tell me about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Well, both Bob and I had been in recovery for about a year and a half, almost two years; and both of us had grown quite a lot in our walk with Christ\u2014I want to make sure everyone knows that. But before our meetings, we always have a mealtime to fellowship and get together; and there was this very handsome, long-haired gentleman with these bright blue eyes cooking hamburgers and hot dogs, and I thought\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That, I assume, was Bob, not another guy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> It definitely was Bob. (Laughter) \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> His hair is not too long right now, though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>And I saw those baby blues, and I knew he was the one for me. 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What does that mean? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDoes that mean you\u2019re getting better?\u00a0 Does that mean you\u2019re fine?\u00a0 Does that mean you\u2019ve stopped sinful patterns but now you\u2019re dealing with it\u2014what\u2019s going on when you\u2019ve been in recovery for a year? What\u2019s that mean?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Well, for me, it meant that I was learning to now do it God\u2019s way instead of my way. Joining a Celebrate Recovery that first day did not guarantee that everything was going to be completely well and 100%\u2014go to one meeting and off you go and life is wonderful. I truly believe that God can remove things from my life and He can restore me, but He also wants me to deal with those defects of my character and to learn more about Him and to go through this process of what I call sanctification. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And so, it was in the midst of that process of sanctification that old Mr. Blue Eyes here laid his peepers on you, and you said, \u201cHe\u2019s the one for me.\u201d\u00a0 What did you think, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> When I first saw her I thought, \u201cThere\u2019s no way that she would go out with a guy like me.\u201d I couldn\u2019t imagine being with a woman so beautiful and so sweet and so kind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Was it at that same barbecue that you noticed her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> That\u2019s when I kind of started getting an eye for her but not to the point where I would actually pursue her. Because I had made so many bad choices in the past, I didn\u2019t want to allow my emotions to dictate the relationships I was going to have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> How long had you been in Celebrate Recovery at this point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> It had been about a year and a half, two years. We both came in around the same time but didn\u2019t notice each other when we first started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And how did you get there? Because your parents had come to you with an intervention\u2014they had tried to press the issue in your life and say, \u201cYou are headed down a path of destruction.\u201d You had wadded up the paper that they had written down their intervention notes on, you\u2019d thrown it in their face, and you\u2019d walked out. What happened from that moment until you wound up at Saddleback Church learning about Jesus and recovery?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> After that intervention it\u2019s still a little bit fuzzy on exactly what happened, but at some point several days later I walked into a recovery meeting. It was there I met a Christian man who brought me to Celebrate Recovery. And it\u2019s at Celebrate Recovery that I realized that going to meetings alone was not enough, that I needed a relationship with Jesus Christ that would transform me from the inside out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> When you say it\u2019s a little fuzzy, I\u2019ve heard alcoholics talk about a lost weekend.\u00a0 Did that intervention experience with your parents, do you think that led you to some binging that just left you without memory for what happened over those days? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I think it left me continuing in my addiction; but I think in the process those words sank in and the heart that they shared it with me sank in. I couldn\u2019t deny anymore their love for me, and I finally realized that my life was out of control and I needed help. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Was there a point when it literally broke your heart that you had broken their hearts? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you break emotionally? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> I broke emotionally, and it was painful to think about all the harm and all the hurt that I had caused them for so many years because of my drug addiction. I couldn\u2019t believe that I would allow myself to make so many bad choices to hurt them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you go back to them at that point and ask for their forgiveness? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> As I continued through the recovery process, I did, and I was able to make amends to them. It was quite some time into the recovery process because I wanted them to see that my \u201csorry\u201d wasn\u2019t just \u201cI\u2019m sorry\u201d again; but my sorry was backed with action and that my life was truly changing and that they could see something different in me, so that I had a living amends, not just a verbal amends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And when you gave your life to Christ, describe that moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I can still see it as if it was yesterday. I asked a gentleman in the recovery meeting that I was with if he would describe to me what it meant to have a relationship with this God that we were talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he took me, for about three hours, through the Scriptures and described \u201cIn the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth\u201d\u2014I never heard that before\u2014and then, brought me to the cross and what Jesus Christ did for me by dying on the cross for all the stuff that I had done to my family, all the stuff I had done to myself, all the stuff that I had done to others. And if I wanted a relationship with Him, all I had to do was ask Him into my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And at that point, was your faith in Christ translated into an experience that marked you? Or was there just a confirmation of His peace, that you knew you\u2019d been forgiven and that you were now a new creature in Christ? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> I felt that peace. I knew something different happened that day. Something in me was different that day, and I knew my life was changed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was the big tipoff in the days that followed that Jesus Christ now resided in you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I think the first was having a hunger and thirst for God\u2019s Word and having a desire to get to know Him better through His Word, the desire to continue on in the recovery process, the desire to go to church.\u00a0 I never wanted to go to church ever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And be around those people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> And be around those people in church. I finally began seeing that a relationship with Christ was so different than anything I ever thought it was; and joining recovery and getting involved in the recovery groups I was at was a whole course correction in my life. One of the things that they told me when I got there was I had to change my people, places, and playthings. I had to begin doing things differently. Everything had to change in my life, not just some things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you began with people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That's what Celebrate Recovery is all about. It\u2019s people being accountable and people telling their story with other people and getting honest about their struggles and their weaknesses and where they\u2019re failing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>I felt like, for the first time, that I belonged with a group of people. I didn\u2019t need to impress them; I didn\u2019t need to please them in any way. All I had to do was show up and be me, and they would love me and accept me exactly where I was at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Did your meth use taper off? Did it just kind of wane over the next several weeks or months? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>My meth use stopped immediately after my experience with Jesus Christ. I still had an urge or a craving to use drugs even after that experience with Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, because you'd been using drugs for how long?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Ten years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Almost every day? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood:<\/strong> Almost every day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> So, patterns were still there, desires, the physical urges were still there; but you now had the strength and the resources to be able to turn away from those things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>Right. By getting connected with a group of people that could encourage me, that could support me, that understood what it was like to feel what I was feeling, gave me the strength that I needed to continue on and not turn back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Karrie, when we last heard from you, you had just shown up at Celebrate Recovery and had come to faith in Christ. What did recovery look like for you in those first few months of the process? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Those first few months were very scary for me because going to Celebrate Recovery was realizing that my life might change\u2014and it did, praise God\u2014but living life the same way scared me even more. So I joined Celebrate Recovery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring those first few months, I started to realize what true unconditional love was all about, and I knew that stemmed from my relationship with Jesus Christ. But what was amazing is He used the people in my life to show me His love. He gave me a body of people that could support me and understand and who have been down that path with me and take me by the hand and walk through this path with me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I had mentioned earlier in my story that I had made a vow to myself that each time I was hurt so deeply, I would never allow myself to be hurt that deeply again. What is amazing was during those first couple of months, that vow started to crack because I had a Savior in my life that showed me that I could trust Him; and that it wasn\u2019t as necessary to hold onto it so deeply. And through recovery that vow cracked completely, and I know only God could have done that for me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it was a slow process of learning to trust, to be open, to disclose, and to allow others to love me and trust them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And one man you did allow to take your hand\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and let you in was old Blue Eyes down here. (Laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> I was thinking about old Blue Eyes. What\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How did you finally ask her out, because you were thinking about how you could\u2014she wouldn\u2019t give you the time of day; but you finally risked it and asked her out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>We actually had a mutual friend that gave me her phone number and told me that she was interested in me. I\u2019ll never forget how I felt. I felt like I was in high school again and nervous and not sure what to do and finally called her and invited her to a party that we were going to go to, a Labor Day party with a bunch of recovery friends. So, we were in our safe environment in beginning this process of dating together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> But didn\u2019t the process of dating scare both of you a little bit?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> It did for me because before I came into recovery, I vowed I was never going to get married again. I had actually, even as a little girl, seen divorce so much, I told myself I would never get divorced; and having had a divorce in my life, I felt very defeated. And I thought, \u201cYou know, I\u2019m never going to get divorced again.\u201d I became content with myself, me and God were one; and I wasn\u2019t expecting this blue-eyed gentleman over here to come into my life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, when he did, I was excited; but then, it dawned on me that he was in recovery for alcoholism; and recovery had taught me to look for patterns. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what I did was, I continued to pray about it. I went to all of my support. I went to my pastor. I told him the situation, and the last person I went to\u2014her name was Lisa\u2014and I had shared with her that I had feelings for this gentleman in recovery; but I really needed to know everything about him. Were there any ghosts in his closet? Was he a good man? I drilled her with many, many questions; and before I even had a chance to finish, she said, \u201cOh, my gosh, I wish I had thought of this before. You would be perfect for each other.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd she ran off that next day and told him I liked him, and it went from there. But, yes, I was nervous; but I was excited because I knew that we both had recovery and God was leading it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So I want to know, how did you ask her to marry you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Wood: <\/strong>This is quite a story. There's a cross in La Jolla, California, that stands about 30 feet tall on top of a hill with a 360-degree view; and I found out about this place through a conversation I overhead somebody talking about. So, I went down there at three o\u2019clock in the morning, so I could watch the sun rise and check out the view. I realized that was exactly where God wanted us to be engaged.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI woke her up, three o\u2019clock in the morning, went over to her apartment, had her throw on some clothes. We went and picked up some doughnut holes and coffee and just drove. She had no idea where we were going or what we were going to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd as I was driving down there, we hit a fog bank\u2014as is common in the San Diego area\u2014and I thought that was going to ruin the moment. I started praying, and I just asked God, \u201cWould you please give me a clearing so that we can take in Your incredible view?\u201d Right as I said, \u201cAmen,\u201d the fog stopped; and we rose above it and had a perfect 360-degree view as the sunrise came up over the mountains in the distance and glistened with gold and purple, and I asked her to be my wife that day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Now, we have to understand, though, especially with ladies, is I must have loved him to have him wake me up that early in the morning \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> Throw on some clothes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And to trust him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>And to trust him\u2014and keep in mind that when women are meant to be\u2014or thinking they\u2019re going to be engaged, they\u2019re usually dressed up and looking their best; and, no, I had my hair pulled up in a ponytail and a raggedy old sweatshirt with stains and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> No makeup.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> No makeup. I was just a mess, and I was not prepared for that. So I was definitely a surprised woman.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> You thought it was just going to be doughnut holes and coffee?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Doughnut holes and coffee, and we were going somewhere. I didn't know where. But I saw him get very distressed as we were going along, and I was very concerned about why. But then when we passed the clouds, he seemed so happy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we got there, we sat at the base of the cross; and he said, \u201cYou know, I just want to read some Scriptures to you.\u201d I said, \u201cOkay,\u201d because we had prayed a lot together up to this point. So he started sharing some really amazing Scriptures about how God had changed us and we were new people and how God intended for man and woman to be together and all those romantic Scriptures.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Were you thinking it was\u2014here it\u2019s coming?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie: <\/strong>Well, at first I was thinking, \u201cThat\u2019s awfully sweet.\u201d Then when he asked me to move to the bench on this cliff, I thought, \u201cSomething must be up.\u201d And he said, \u201cWell, let\u2019s pray some more.\u201d I said, \u201cOkay.\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWow, he\u2019s very spiritual today.\u201d He really wanted to do a lot of praying.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, during that prayer time, he went even further; and I sense, all of a sudden, he wasn\u2019t sitting next to me. I looked down, and he was kneeling in this big, huge mud puddle just weeping with this ring in front of me. And I knew at that moment he was a man I had never, ever thought God would give me. He is an absolute blessing. And what was amazing about him for me is that he has taught me what a godly man is all about. God has used him in that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, I think the great story we\u2019ve heard from both of you is that God can indeed take Humpty Dumpty, who has fallen off the wall; and the King can put the pieces back together again and He can take two broken vessels and turn them into one\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and turn them into one for His glory; because that\u2019s what you\u2019re doing by using your failure, your weakness\u2014drugs, alcohol, eating disorders\u2014and you\u2019ve turned that into, now, a ministry, Celebrate Recovery. And I think many of our listeners have gained hope and help and healing from listening to your story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I hope they\u2019ll take it one step further. I really hope that there will be hundreds in churches all across the country who will join arms with Celebrate Recovery and start one of these accountability groups that fellowships around the living Lord Jesus Christ and around authentic relationships where people get real about their own lives and about their own mistakes, and they find that hope and that healing and that help that you all found.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karrie:<\/strong> And what these churches need to know as well is there are thousands of women just like me when I first started 12 years ago, that are broken and lost and have no hope; and unless these churches open up their doors and make it a safe place for people like me to come to, they\u2019re going to continue to live their life without purpose\u2014because the man and the woman that you see here today, we\u2019re not the same woman and man of 12 years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob Lepine:<\/strong> And a lot of churches over the last decade have begun to make Celebrate Recovery a part of what they are doing as an outreach in the community, as a way to not just engage with people who are outside of the church, but to help people in the church who have struggled with besetting sin, with addictive behavior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com if folks want more information about Celebrate Recovery. You can go to our website, click on the \u201cCELEBRATE RECOVERY\u201d link, find out where there is a group meeting near you or how you can start a group in your church or in your community. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about the ministry of Celebrate Recovery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you might want to go this weekend to see the movie that\u2019s coming out in theaters called <em>Home Run<\/em> because Celebrate Recovery plays a key role in that movie. It\u2019s about a pro-athlete, a baseball player, who has a substance abuse issue and winds up in a recovery program, and it happens to be Celebrate Recovery. And he ultimately hears the Gospel and responds to his need for Christ in the movie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s really a well-done film that I had a chance to see recently and would encourage our listeners to go this weekend to see the movie, <em>Home Run<\/em>, which is opening in local theaters all around the country. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, we want to commend to you a book by our friend, Dr. Ed Welch. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Addictions: A Banquet in the Grave<\/em> that we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. It may be a book that you need to read or something you can pass on to a friend, but you can find out more about how to get a copy of the book when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can simply call 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. Ask about the book <em>Addictions<\/em> by Ed Welch, and we can take care of getting a copy of that book sent to you. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I mentioned our friend, Ed Welch. He was here not long ago. We talked about the whole subject of addictions and recorded the conversation. This month, we have been making that CD available to listeners who can help support this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI trust our listeners understand that the cost for producing and syndicating this daily program is not covered by advertisers\u2014you don\u2019t hear any commercials during <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. It\u2019s covered by folks like you who pitch in from time to time or become Legacy Partners to help support us on a monthly basis. You are the folks who make this program possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you can help us with a donation today, we\u2019d like to send you a copy of the CD with the conversation with Ed Welch as our way of saying thank you for your financial support. We appreciate your partnership with us and look forward to hearing from you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can go to FamilyLifeToday.com, click the button that says, \u201cI CARE,\u201d and make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make a donation over the phone and just ask for the CD with Ed Welch or the CD on addictions when you make your donation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can be back with us again tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk with Jedd Medefind. Jedd is the head of the Christian Alliance for Orphans, and coming up in a couple of weeks in Nashville they\u2019re going to be hosting an event called the Orphans Summit. Dennis and I are going to be there. 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