{"id":302708,"date":"2013-04-02T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-04-02T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/2-2-laughter-and-tears\/"},"modified":"2013-04-02T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-04-02T15:00:00","slug":"2-2-laughter-and-tears","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/2-2-laughter-and-tears\/","title":{"rendered":"2\/2 Laughter and Tears"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hear a very special 20th anniversary message.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-04-02.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.82M","filesize_raw":"23927886","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2822],"tags":[5267,2999,5268],"podcast_series":[7936],"cwp_profile":[],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302708","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-growing-in-your-faith","tag-family-life-today","tag-familylife","tag-radio","podcast_series-reflecting-on-twenty-years","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302708\/2-2-laughter-and-tears","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302708\/2-2-laughter-and-tears","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"8jeZ6v8yFn\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/2-2-laughter-and-tears\/\">2\/2 Laughter and Tears<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/2-2-laughter-and-tears\/embed\/#?secret=8jeZ6v8yFn\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;2\/2 Laughter and Tears&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"8jeZ6v8yFn\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Wound up in the dog house? Well, we did not forget FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2019s recent 20<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary. We got our team together and celebrated 20 years of broadcasting on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; but we realized later, we had left somebody out of the celebration\u2014and that is you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, April 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019re going to bring you along today as we reflect on 20 years of broadcasting on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019ll have some fun in the process. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition. You know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Got all kinds of calls yesterday, Bob, about the beginning of our show\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and <em>Focus on the Family<\/em>. We had fun with that spoof; didn\u2019t we? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. We had a good time as Jim Daly and John Fuller hijacked <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We returned the favor on <em>Focus on the Family <\/em>[Laughter]\u2014had a little April Fools\u2019 fun to start off the program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And didn\u2019t tell the stations, across the country, that we were doing it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, and I think there were\u2014had to be some guys who were at the station\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Shocked! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014loading up the program going, \u201cI got the wrong program on the radio! I must have put <em>Focus on the Family<\/em> on where <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is supposed to be!\u201d <br><br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Good friends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They are good friends and doing a great work. They stopped by to congratulate us on 20 years of doing what we do, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014which we reached that milestone back in November. November 9<sup>th<\/sup>, 1992 was when we first went on the air. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Quite a ride; huh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And now, here after 20\u2014now, it is 20-and-a-half years that we\u2019ve been on the air. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And we thought, \u201cThe listeners missed out on the celebration\u2014our 20-year celebration. We ought to bring them in on it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And if you missed the earlier broadcast, you need to check out the fun that we had on it; but today is going to start with a riot of laughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. We start off, again, with our friend, Emmitt Fowler, who was the emcee as we got the whole team together for this celebration. You\u2019re going to hear a rare, radio appearance by our engineer, Keith Lynch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previously recorded audio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Clapping]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Hey, Keith, grab a microphone there just real quick. I\u2019m going to have you give some of these numbers that you and I were discussing earlier. You already mentioned 5,200\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Monday. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Wow, Monday will be 5,200 programs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> How many words do you estimate that you have heard Dennis and Bob utter over the last 20 years? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Different words? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Well, I know there are some repeats in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s in the 60\u2019s now. It\u2019s in the 60\u2019s, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Well, I think\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Keith, you really hurt me on that one. I know I have a limited vocabulary, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you counting yesterday and yesterdee as two words? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Or progrum and program? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes\u2014two different words. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> One day, when I was really busy, I decided I would figure out how many words they had said. So, I have a little spreadsheet; and I click on it every day. I think I remember right now it is 24 million-ish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> 24 million words\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> \u2014ish\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> \u2014that you\u2019ve listened to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> \u2014that make it on the air. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Right; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Yes, based on transcripts\u2014because on a show, where there are men, about 2,500 words per show\u2014on a show, where there are women, about 3,500 words per show. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Is that true? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> That\u2019s true. Yes, women always talk more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Now, the number I have\u2014again, I can\u2019t verify the numbers. I don\u2019t make this stuff up. I just read what\u2019s on here, you know? But the number I have is: 24,568\u2014\u201cNo doubt about it, Bob.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> We\u2019ll be in the studio later to give it a go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> It gets worse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That one wasn\u2019t funny. [Laughter] It\u2019s going to go downhill from here! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Well, you know what? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, you know what! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> It gets worse: [Laughter] 33,143\u2014\u201cYou know what?\u201ds. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cYou know what;\u201d yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> But he doesn\u2019t get off the hook. I\u2019ve got 29,339: \u201cMmm, hmm\u201d\u2014powerful. He is a very agreeable person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, he had indigestion. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Okay, here\u2019s something you guys have got to know. You\u2019ve never heard Bob laugh. Give them the fake laugh, Bob. [Bob laughs]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to do it all the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> I\u2019m just saying\u2014the fake laugh. [Bob laughs]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Dan Allender was an early guest. One of Dan\u2019s\u2014everybody\u2014look, every speaker has crutch phrases; okay? We have these things that we just reflexively do. I mean, it\u2019s a part of what you do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> \u201cNo doubt about it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, \u201cNo doubt about it.\u201d [Laughter] And one of Dan Allender\u2019s crutch phrases is\u2014he likes to say, \u201cThere\u2019s a sense in which,\u201d\u2014\u201cThere\u2019s a sense in which.\u201d So, Keith had heard it enough times that, one time when Dan came in, Keith had made a little Kewpie doll that was a witch. He called it the \u201cSense in Witch.\u201d Here\u2019s Dan Allender\u2019s \u201cSense in Witch.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> He stopped saying it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And give them Gary Smalley\u2014how he would say his. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> [Impersonating Gary Smalley] Well, here\u2019s the thing Gary Smalley would say, \u201cThere are three principles. These are three amazing\u2014if you apply these three principles in your marriage, you will see a revolution. It\u2019s amazing. It is really amazing.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> You can take that on the road\u2014very good! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> While we\u2019re talking about numbers, I also have down here: 2,500\u2014and I think this number is low\u20142,568 chicken Caesar salads from the Purple Cow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s probably low. <br><br><strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> That\u2019s their favorite place to go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And Christy has ordered 99.7 percent of those, and driven, and picked them all up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s a team meal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s the team meal. We started doing it early on, and\u2014yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When I came here in July of \u201892 to first talk about radio, that\u2019s what we had for lunch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> The very first time? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The first time. So, we just made that the lunch every time\u2014until there was a season in \u201808\u2014there was a season in \u201808 where we were tightening the budget. We said, \u201cCan we reduce the cost of those salads?\u201d I mean, they cost nine dollars each. So, we got chicken Caesar salads from Panera<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> because they were seven dollars each\u2014just to try to tighten things up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Then, they divided them three ways. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt: <\/strong>We\u2019ve got a little more ground, here, I\u2019m hoping to cover before we have to wrap up; but\u2014Dennis, after doing this for 20 years, we now have a second generation of listeners, really\u2014people that have grown up listening to the program\u2014people that have been ministered to through the program and through you, personally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want the staff to hear a clip from Jennie Allen. Then, I want you to tell them the significance of Jennie being on the program and your role in her life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Jennie Allen clip]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennie:<\/strong> Let me just give a few disclaimers because I am a woman who has fought this battle\u2014I have been down this road. One, control is a complete illusion. It is not real. We do not have control. So, even if we think we do, we do not. And I think that has been the humor of God, in my life, as I prayed this prayer. I think He keeps saying, \u201cYes, you really can\u2019t control.\u201d So, number one, control is an illusion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut number two, control does not bring happiness. If we do take\u2014I\u2019m about to say, \u201cTake the wheel,\u201d which is hysterical; okay? If we do take the wheel\u2014country song, cue music in the background [Laughter]\u2014and if we take that, and control, and try to maneuver our life, I can promise you it will not be even remotely close to following, and chasing God, and living the lives and the stories that He\u2019s written. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[End of Jennie Allen clip]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Tell the staff\u2014who Jennie is and the significance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I think the story you\u2019re reflecting on is\u2014wasn\u2019t she in my sixth grade\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> She was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014Sunday school class\u2014a number of years ago. Grew up\u2014married a young man, who is pastoring a church in Austin, Texas\u2014and now, is an author and, also, I think, blogging and has some great\u2014is creating some great tools for the next generation. So, yes, it\u2019s interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI met one at Southern Seminary, too, who as an eight-year-old boy, grew up listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in Washington, DC\u2014and today, is a seminary student at Southern. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And he got his picture, he said, of what marriage and family was all about\u2014not just from his mom and dad, who had a great marriage, and whose mom listened to the broadcast on the way to take him to school\u2014but he just came up and expressed appreciation. Those are really humbling to think that God would use us in an eight-year-old\u2019s life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> You know\u2014we\u2019ve looked back. Now, we\u2019re seeing the fruits of 20 years with the second generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s talk, just for a minute\u2014and I\u2019m going to direct this to you, Bob, to look into the future, if you can. Let\u2019s talk about the future of radio. We\u2019re in a digital age. Radio has certainly changed. There would be some that are predicting the demise of radio. As the one who really is the creative voice behind the program, where do you see <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> going and the future of radio going? Should we keep doing it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, the demise of radio has been predicted at times in the past. When television came on, people said, \u201cThat\u2019s it for radio.\u201d Radio re-tweaked\u2014re-invented itself. I don\u2019t see radio going away as a vehicle for content distribution. Ultimately, that is what it is. It\u2019s a vehicle for content distribution. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I see happening is the emergence of new vehicles. And what we do\u2014in fact, the radio team became the audio team a number of years ago when we said, \u201cReally, what we do is audio-content creation.\u201d The distribution channel is secondary. We want to be in every meaningful distribution channel we can be in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I remember ten years ago, when satellite radio came on. People said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s it for local radio. Who\u2019s going to listen to local radio when they can get satellite?\u201d And you know what? We went on satellite radio for three years, and we got two responses over three years. We dropped off satellite radio, at that point, because it was not a meaningful distribution channel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, podcasting, ten years\u2014not ten years, probably, five years ago\u2014everybody was saying, \u201cPodcasting\u2014that\u2019s going to be the end of radio. When everybody can do their own podcast, who\u2019s going to listen to the radio?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, when everybody can do their own podcasts, you\u2019re going to start hearing some really bad podcasts.\u201d If you look at the podcast list on iTunes<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, right now, and look at what the top podcasts are\u2014they are radio programs that are distributed through iTunes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>It\u2019s\u2014there\u2019s still\u2014the folks who are going to make the biggest impact, going forward, are folks who understand how to synergize traditional media and new media so that they serve one another well. That\u2019s what we\u2019re committed to, and that\u2019s the path of the future. That\u2019s the direction\u2014that\u2019s where we\u2019re headed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> One of the first guests, after I arrived here in 2006, was a guy named RV Brown. You guys remember RV Brown? One of my favorite moments was when Dennis asked him to give a tribute to his dad. Do you remember what he called his dad? Anybody remember? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Willie Fish. RV Brown was one of 18\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Seventeen, I think. I think 17. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Was it 17 children? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> I could be wrong\u2014large family. But we\u2019ve got a one-minute clip of RV Brown giving a tribute to his dad. Listen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[RV Brown clip]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>RV:<\/strong> Daddy Fish, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart \u2014first of all, for loving my momma\u2014and then, secondly, for loving me, and kissing me, and rubbing my little, round head, telling me to go to school and everything was going to be okay. Then, Dad, I want to thank you for taking me fishing July 6, 1959, for the first time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd Dad, I want to just tell you what an awesome leader you were. With no education, Dad, you taught me\u2014you educated me how to love. Dad, thank you for teaching me how to farm, and to take care of other people, and to share whatever I\u2019ve got with other people. Dad, I\u2019m the kind of man I am today because of who you are. Dad, thank you for loving Momma. Thank you for the leadership and the authority in which you raised us. Thank you for the discipline. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd most of all, Father, I want to thank you for that hug, and that kiss, and that little rubbing my little, round head and saying, \u201cYou\u2019re going to be okay, son.\u201d Dad, I love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[End of RV clip] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> That\u2019s pretty cool; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Bob, tell the staff, with Veteran\u2019s Day, coming up on Sunday\u2014tell the staff about something exciting we\u2019re doing, internationally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This has just happened here recently. Michelle Hill\u2019s been working on this\u2014appreciate her hard work to pull it off. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is going to be heard, beginning this month, on AFN. Anybody know what AFN is? It is the Armed Forces Network\u2014175 outlets around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, each local station has its own program director; so, they don\u2019t just take the network feed. They have to select what they want; but the chaplain who oversees all of the religious programing on AFN is really encouraging these stations to air <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. In fact, he wrote to us and said, \u201cI want to convey my praise and thanks to your wonderful staff for your gracious efforts in ministry that\u2019s made <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> available on AFN.\u201d The potential audience is over a million patriots, stationed around the world. And he\u2019s working hard to promote the program on our network. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve also been told, from a stateside chaplain, that the reach of AFN is greater than just the military community because these expats\u2014that are living in a lot of these areas around the bases\u2014love having an English language radio program that they can tune into. So, a lot of English-speaking nationals and expats are also tuned into AFN. So, 175 countries and 200 ships that have access to AFN, as well. That\u2019s in the declining military ship\u2014no, we don\u2019t want to go there. Sorry! [Laughter] Sorry! Sorry! I know. I know. Devil gets into me sometimes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we\u2019re thrilled about the opportunity to be on AFN. Some of what\u2014yes, some of these ships even go under water. [Laughter] Anyway\u2014yes, I know. We\u2019re thrilled about it, and one of the first programs that they\u2019re going to get a chance to hear\u2014from the widow of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a fallen comrade, a Navy SEAL, who gave his life. Kelley Brown lives in Hot Springs. Her husband, Adam, died in combat. His SEAL team\u2014after the mission was completed\u2014his body brought back\u2014there was a memorial service held for Adam, down in Hot Springs. Listen as Kelley retells that story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Kelley Brown clip] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Kelley, Adam was buried seven days later at a small cemetery. His buddies, Navy SEAL Team Six, weren\u2019t there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong> No, they weren\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They were able to come back, though\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong> They did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014at a later time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong> Yes, after they finished their deployment, they all came home. They spent some time with us\u2014spent a couple days in Hot Springs. They wanted to see what this Hot Springs, Arkansas, was all about because that\u2019s all Adam talked about was Arkansas. They wanted to see where he was from. So, they loved the lake. They spent so much time on the lake. They pulled our kids around on the floaties. They were riding jet skis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was just a good time of remembering Adam. And it was so inspiring, and it just made my heart swell with such pride that my husband served with men like these. So, the very next day, pretty much the whole command flies into Hot Springs. Then, we had kind of a command funeral for Adam, out at the cemetery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was a friend of ours, Kevin\u2014they called him Uncle Juicy. He was really struggling with why Adam had to leave this world. This big, tough guy\u2014that we had invited to church for years, and years, and years came\u2014Kevin, May 15, 2011, walked to the front of our church, humbled himself, dropped to his knees in front of our church with his hands raised up high and asked the Lord to come into his heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the thing about that is, you know, I kept telling myself: \u201cGod, why Adam? Why Adam? Why did you take him?\u201d He had to go first because all of the men that were with my husband the night of his mission\u2014all the men of\u2014the ones that came back and paid the tribute to Adam\u2014they all perished last August 2011\u2014August 6<sup>th<\/sup>. It was the Chinook that went down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Emotion in voice] So, I lost a lot of friends that day\u2014Kevin Houston, John Faas, and Brian Bill\u2014I could just list the names. I could list them. These heroes that ran in that compound to risk their lives to bring my husband home safely\u2014they are now gone. So, now, I realize that Adam had to go first. He had to go first because they learned\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They heard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong> \u2014they heard the story of Jesus. They saw His love through Adam, and I\u2019m thankful for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> [Emotion in voice] Well, you know, Kelley, there\u2019s no way to express what, undoubtedly, our listeners are feeling for Adam, and for you, and your son, and daughter for protecting us. And I know many have said, \u201cThank you;\u201d but I feel compelled to say it one more time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong> You know, that\u2019s all I need to hear\u2014is a thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[End of Kelley Brown clip] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Emmitt:<\/strong> Chief Petty Officer Adam Brown is buried in a small cemetery in Hot Springs, Arkansas. His widow Kelley now lives in Hot Springs with her two children who attend the same elementary school their father Adam did, more than two decades ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I feel compelled to just read a passage to summarize 20 years. \u201cNow, to Him who is able to do far more abundantly than all we ask or think, according to the power at work within us. To Him be the glory. To Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations forever and ever. Amen.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, a great look back at 20 years. I sometimes wish we could just feature some of the highlights; but I guess we do. I mean, at some level, every day, what we\u2019re airing has been a highlight of one sort or another as we\u2019ve had hundreds of guests, heard hundreds of stories, and shared how God is at work in the lives of couples, families, all around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019ve shared, back and forth, between one another many times, Bob, how it is amazing that we have that privilege of hearing these stories of redemption\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and how God worked out His purposes through broken people. And I\u2019m going to tell you\u2014the past 20 years have been a great privilege\u2014but I think the next 20 are going to be our best yet because we have got some big plans in place to make an impact, across our nation, at the grassroots\u2019 level, of unleashing people to make a difference where they live in their neighborhoods, their churches, their communities, and their states. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And we do\u2014and I think it would be appropriate for us to acknowledge here that the past 20 years have been made possible by listeners who have said: \u201cWe like what you guys are doing. It\u2019s ministering to us, and we want to see that continue to expand and grow and happen more and more.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those who have given one-time gifts\u2014Legacy Partners, who support us on a regular basis. Thank you for your gifts, large and small\u2014for your faithfulness to us. I\u2019m with Bob\u2014there is absolutely no way you could build out a broadcast like this and have the excellence that we have without folks\u2014not only giving\u2014but standing with you, on a regular basis, to make this ministry possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI really believe that we\u2019re in a real battle for the most basic unit of our nation and the Church. I think we have to win this battle for marriage and family. I think we do that by going back to the Scriptures, and calling people to be obedient to the One who wrote them, and, generationally, passing that truth on to our children and grandchildren. That\u2019s what we\u2019re about. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I don\u2019t know all of what heaven is going to be like; but I\u2019d like to think that we could get an hour in heaven where we could get everybody who was involved in listening to and giving to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and get them all together in some giant hall and hear stories about how God was at work in the ministry\u2014hear stories of what God did\u2014of course, Jesus would be there. He\u2019d be the One that we\u2019d be focused on and celebrating in the midst of all of that; but to hear how He has chosen to use this ministry, redemptively, in the lives of so many folks. If that happens in heaven, we\u2019ll make sure you get an invitation; okay?\u2014that you can come out and be with us for that listener event up there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I was going to say, \u201cWe\u2019d have some special seating for our Legacy Partners up there,\u201d but I don\u2019t think you can save seats in heaven. I think that\u2019s against the rules in heaven; but we do want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d now, to our Legacy Partners\u2014those of you who help support this ministry each month. Your contributions are what make this program possible. You help cover the costs of producing and syndicating <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We couldn\u2019t do what we do without you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd over the last several weeks, we\u2019ve been asking you to consider becoming a Legacy Partner\u2014making a monthly contribution. We\u2019ll stay in touch with you. We\u2019ll send you a welcome kit with some resources in it for your marriage, for your family\u2014and keep in touch, throughout the year. If you\u2019d like to join the Legacy Partner team, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. All the information you need about becoming a Legacy Partner is right there. Once again, it\u2019s FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and say, \u201cI want to become a Legacy Partner.\u201d We\u2019ll get you taken care of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, I want to thank our engineer, Keith Lynch, for his help with today\u2019s program and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Hope to see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. 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