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They\u2019ll say, \u201cWell, what are you going to do about college?\u201d They\u2019ll start throwing out problems for you that are years away and not necessary. The child is\u2014somewhere, malnourished, dying, with no family\u2014and they want you to sweat whether they are going to go to Harvard or not. So, when those kinds of things creep in, Sharon will just go: \u201cWell, what if it were you? Would you want to come to America and be a part of a family or would you want to stay over in a gutter because someone decided they couldn\u2019t put in bunk beds?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, March 13<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How do you make the decision, as a family, whether adoption is right for you? That\u2019s one of the questions we\u2019ll talk about today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Would you say that, as an adoptive mom and dad, you learn some things that you would not have learned if you had not been adoptive parents? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, absolutely. Some of the greatest lessons we\u2019ve learned, as parents\u2014and truthfully, as those who are adopted by our Heavenly Father\u2014have come through adopting our daughter, Deborah\u2014so, great privilege and tremendous lessons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, give us an example of a lesson you think you might have learned, as adoptive parents, that you wouldn\u2019t have learned otherwise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, you know, I think most people tend to evaluate adoption\u2014they go: \u201cHow could you ever love somebody else\u2019s child as your own? I could never do that!\u201d You know what? It\u2019s instant. It doesn\u2019t matter if they come biologically or through adoption\u2014when they are yours, and you know God selected them for you, they\u2019re yours. You pursue them. You\u2019re on a mission to love them and care for them. It reflects the Father\u2019s\u2014our Heavenly Father\u2019s love for us. He adopted us. We\u2019re in His family. We got grafted in, and He\u2019s constantly pursuing us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You remember Steven and Mary Beth Chapman being here and talking about their experience of walking into an orphanage, in China, to receive their baby for the first time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mary Beth having those same questions. She described it in that same kind of instant moment that you talked about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Those doubts go away. They vanish, instantly. And we have a couple who have experienced the vanishing doubts nine times. [Laughter] They have three biological children\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The instant love\u2014the, \u201cJust add water...\u201d\u2014instant-love kind of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Instant family, too. Michael and Sharon Dennehy join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Sharon, Michael, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Thanks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They do have nine adopted children, ages seven to eighteen. Did you have those doubts, especially as you moved to adopt your first adopted child at 18 months? His name was George. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right. I don\u2019t think I did have that experience. I know that\u2019s a common one, but I just felt so drawn to him and wanted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was already there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> It was there. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And there for you, Mike? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> No. Honestly, I think men\u2014pictures don\u2019t do it. Texts don\u2019t do it. You have to, actually, physically be in the room with them\u2014make eye contact, pick them up for the first time. Then, you\u2019re there. I think we\u2019re constructed a little bit differently, on our side of the fence. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob was asking me some of the lessons we had learned, in terms of adopting a little girl, a number of years ago. What about you guys? Have you learned some lessons from adoption? I mean, undoubtedly, you have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes, we were asked to sort of frame it a little bit. We put together ten of them for Bethany Christian Services<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> fundraisers that we\u2019ve done. One of the ones\u2014of the ten that I\u2014really impacts me\u2014is from my wife. She ends all of our conversations about, \u201cShould we?\u201d\/\u201dShouldn\u2019t we?\u201d with, \u201cWhat if it were you?\u201d\u2014and you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s just not fair! Sharon\u2014that is a dirty trick that you play. [Laughter] I mean, seriously, we\u2019re laughing about that; but honestly, if you ask that question about every kid in the world, you\u2019d adopt 50, 100\u2014500. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right. That\u2019s true, but I think I only ask that question when I feel God\u2019s <em>really<\/em> pinpointing a child\u2014I kind of get that feeling He\u2019s calling us to a particular child. I have to get Mike on board. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. Well, let me give you some backdrop; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe natural reaction, especially in the US, is\u2014if a child is say two years old, somewhere in a country\u2014poor, starving\u2014your relatives will surround you, well-intentioned, and your friends. They\u2019ll say: \u201cWell, what are you going to do about college? What are you going to do about...\u201d They\u2019ll start throwing out problems for you that are years away and not necessary. The child is\u2014somewhere, malnourished, dying, with no family\u2014and they want you to sweat whether they are going to go to Harvard or not. So, when those kinds of things creep in, Sharon will just go: \u201cWell, what if it were you? Would you want to come to America and be a part of a family or would you want to stay over in a gutter because someone decided they couldn\u2019t put in bunk beds?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tell me how the conversation went with\u2014Sharon, with your mom and dad\u2014when you called and said, \u201cLet me tell you what Mike and I are thinking about doing,\u201d\u2014back with George, back when he was a baby\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cWe\u2019re thinking about adopting a little boy from Romania who has no arms.\u201d What did your mom and dad say to you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Well, you know, they were very proud of me because I was a good student and I had a journalism degree. I think they thought that I was wasting my life by being a mom to special-needs kids. And I had this\u2014God was telling me that if I just submitted to this thing He had for me that He was going to use it in a bigger way than anything I could do by writing about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> With your journalism degree? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> \u2014with my journalism degree. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> And this may come as a shock, but a lot of the discouragement an adoptive family will get, early on, is going to be from people in the Church; right?\u2014all around you. People in the church will tell you not to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, it\u2019s interesting you should say that because, until a few years ago, I didn\u2019t think the Church did have a healthy view of the orphan or of adoption. I think that\u2019s begun to change, though. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> I agree. I think the key thing that\u2019s begun to change is people are suddenly seeing themselves as adopted, if you\u2019re a Christian. If you read your Bible closely, you come away realizing: \u201cI was the orphan. God found me. He sought me. He did all the paperwork. He cleaned me up. And now, He says, \u2018Come sit at My table and dine with Me forever.\u2019\u201d That\u2019s Heaven; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> So, joining an adoptive family, here on earth, is a little model of the Gospel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, Jesus said\u2014I think it was over in John 14\u2014\u201cI\u2019m not going to leave you as orphans.\u201d He\u2019s coming after us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. Sharon and I were looking at our Scriptures this morning, and there\u2019s constant reference to the fatherless. Well, who fills that void? It\u2019s our great Father\u2014<em>Abba<\/em> Father\u2014<em>Abba<\/em> \u201cDaddy\u201d Father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, one of the lessons you learned is this lesson that you don\u2019t have to have all of the details of life figured when you bring a baby home. You don\u2019t have to have a college trust fund set aside. God\u2019s going to provide for you, along the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> In ways that you will never ever imagine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Give me an example of a way that you\u2019ve seen God provide. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> This is amazing! We took Hope on blind faith. Hope is our little daughter. She was born with no arms and no legs, from Thailand. She just came here this year. We said, \u201cYes,\u201d to her before we knew this; but while we were in Thailand, we were called aside by the Minister of Finance. He said: \u201cNow, that she\u2019s your daughter. I want you to know the Princess of Thailand set up a fund for her so that, when she\u2019s 18, she\u2019ll be taken care of for her future. We\u2019re going to monitor this fund, and we\u2019ll make it available to her when she\u2019s ready.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I\u2019m thinking\u2014I, literally, looked up to Heaven and just\u2014because when we were in America, everyone was saying: \u201cShe\u2019s going to be so expensive! You\u2019ll have a burden your whole life. It\u2019s going to be so hard for you. You are getting too old,\u201d\u2014and on, and on, and on. Then, bang! God says: \u201cI\u2019ve got an answer. You can\u2019t mess with Me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s not often I\u2019m speechless. That gets me right there. God had gone ahead of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes, way ahead! He thinks of ideas to fix problems that you couldn\u2019t come up with if you tried. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And while we\u2019re on the topic of God, what have you learned about Him? Any of those lessons have to do with who He is? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. This saying: \u201cLove is not a pie;\u201d right? By giving love to a child, you\u2019re not depriving your other children\u2014you\u2019re not depriving your friends and family of love. The word, <em>agape<\/em>\u2014right\u2014resurfaces all through the Bible. It\u2019s sort of this out- pouring of love that never stops\u2014it\u2019s just, \u201cLove,\u201d and, \u201clove,\u201d \u2014and you can\u2019t run out. So, never not adopt because you think your other children are going to \u201csuffer lack of love from you\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s on you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But time is a pie. I mean, let\u2019s just be honest. Love may not be a pie\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but time, there\u2019s a finite amount of time; right? So, you\u2019ve got 12 kids. I\u2019m just adding up\u2014an hour, one-on-one with each child, in a week. That\u2019s a half-a-day for you guys. How have you\u2014how do you divide the time pie, Mike? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> We\u2014because of Sharon\u2019s guidance, we made a purposeful effort to not sign them up for all the traditional things; right? So, they don\u2019t all have to be taking a music lesson at a different place and being on a travel sports team and all the things that have suddenly become vogue and popular. So, we have story time. We have group meals. We have the pool. We have\u2014our church has an Upward Soccer program, where it\u2019s all in one place, no travel. All the games are on a Saturday morning. We take them\u2014all who want to play. Things like that have just shown up; and we said, \u201cThat\u2019s perfect for us!\u201d \u2014as is, a gift from God\u2014called Sam\u2019s Club<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and Costco<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> You know, you wondered about the people\u2014\u201cWho\u2019s that person buying those 50 rolls of toilet paper? Maybe, I should pray for them?\u201d Well, that\u2019s us! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the thing. When you\u2019re on a mission\u2014where God has told you to go on a mission\u2014and you\u2019re doing it in obedience to Him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014it doesn\u2019t feel like a sacrifice. In fact, you\u2019ve actually said this. You\u2019ve said that adoption can be addictive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes, it can. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that kind of tied to, \u201cGod\u2019s got you on a mission,\u201d? And it\u2019s like, \u201cWhoa!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It just kind of keeps\u2014having more and more\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> He teaches you things that you half-believed but never lived out\u2014this notion, \u201cThere\u2019s always room for one more potato in your pot.\u201d Well, you can think that. You can know that\u2014but until you see that in action and you see that by adding one\u2014you know, everything doesn\u2019t cease. You don\u2019t run out of food. We have too much food here. Look at all of us, running around America; right?\u2014doing McDonald\u2019s<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and Burger King<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got too much. So, it\u2019s no big deal\u2014five pounds of potatoes or four-and-a-half. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, when you\u2019re talking about potatoes in the pot, you\u2019re talking about actual\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014potatoes in the pot! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Sharon, what kind of vehicle do you drive\u2014a church bus? <br><br><strong>Sharon:<\/strong> We actually\u2014this is a funny one. We had a 15-passenger van, when our family was half the size; and we thought we were done adopting. So, we sold it to our church\u2014then, took on a bunch more kids. Now, we drive two vehicles everywhere. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can\u2019t\u2014not everybody can go in one vehicle\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> No, no. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the way you got it lined up? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> But then we get\u2014when you get teenagers, you get the problem of them needing their own cars. So, that\u2019s sort of the way we do it now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And the dining room table is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014custom-made. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> \u2014custom-made, big table. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> When I gave him the dimensions, he said: \u201cYou know, this is going to be pretty long. You sure you need 18 feet? Have you measured?\u201d I said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s what I need you to make.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What room do you put an 18-foot table in? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No. It\u2019s, \u201cWhat rooms?\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Well, I need to tell you\u2014speaking of God providing\u2014we were outgrowing our fairly large house. God just gave us this huge foreclosure for about half of what it was worth. So, that\u2019s another example of\u2014He just\u2014He takes care of His orphans. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And how many bedrooms in the huge foreclosure? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> We, actually, only have five bedrooms. It wasn\u2019t really made for a family with lots of kids, but they\u2019re all big bedrooms. The kids share rooms, and they\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I guess they do. You\u2019ve got five bedrooms. You\u2019ve got one of them; right? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s just for the two of you. Nobody\u2019s sharing that. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you still have nine at home? So, in the other four bedrooms\u2014I\u2019m just doing the math here\u2014two, four, six. There\u2019s at least two and three in one; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. And they love it, too. When some go to sleepovers, they get very upset. They don\u2019t want to be alone in a room. So, they enjoy having each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Beats the heck out of any orphanage or gutter I\u2019ve ever seen, in Third World countries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Bunk beds everywhere? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> In the kids\u2019 rooms, not in our room. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Obviously. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was interesting\u2014we had four bedrooms and six kids. We had two kids per bedroom. They didn\u2019t end up sleeping on the bed, anyway. A lot of times, they\u2019d sleep on the floor, in a sleeping bag. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That\u2019s such a First World problem to worry about\u2014what kind of bed you have. When you have kids\u2014who were living in the street\u2014I mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay, look over your list. I want both of you to pick one of your favorites from the list because you\u2019ve got a list of ten things that you\u2019ve learned from adopting kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Ten lessons learned from adopting kids\u2014give us one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> I\u2019ll go first\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014if that\u2019s okay? I\u2019ve done adoption seminars and talked to men quite a bit. I realized that men have a whole different worldview of adoption. So, you need to change the language. One of the reasons\u2014it used to really bug me\u2014is during home studies and things\u2014Sharon would always tell me: \u201cWell, they\u2019re going to come look at our house. They\u2019re going to\u2014we need to write a check to So-and-so so they can look at our\u2014test our water.\u201d It used to drive me nuts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I\u2019d tell all the ladies in the audience, \u201cTalk to your men in terms of adventure;\u201dright? This isn\u2019t a fee for the airplane. This is an adventure fee. This is not a payment for the orphanage. It\u2019s a ransom; right? You start talking war-language, and adventure-language, and going, and bringing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There you go. There you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014and leaving our comfort zone, and going out, and\u2014it\u2019s Special Forces stuff. Then, men start to get like: \u201cYes! It\u2019s been awhile since I\u2019ve had a good adventure. You mean, we\u2019re going to Sumbawa\u2014over to Africa? We\u2019re going to have to like go to this shelter and hang out, and we\u2019re going to rescue a kid and bring him back? That\u2019s cool!\u201d Then, the men start to get engaged, mentally. A lot of ladies have come up to me and said, \u201cThanks for that one tip because it changed our dialogue when we talked about it.\u201d <br><br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> You know who said the same thing is Rick Warren, the pastor out at Saddleback Church, when Dennis, and Rick Warren, and Russell Moore, and Jed Medefind\u2014from the Orphans Summit\u2014when they were together, out at Saddleback, in the spring of 2012. The subject was, \u201cHow do you get guys?\u201d because, typically, mom\u2019s heart goes there first before dad\u2019s heart goes there; right? Rick said the same thing. Russell Moore agreed. You\u2019ve got to help men see\u2014the provider\/protector side of manhood\u2014you just scratch a little of that, and guys will go, \u201cYes!\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI\u2019m in.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Yes, right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And to that point, describe that orphanage in that country where you just said you went to. Did you go to that orphanage? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Well, I mean, I\u2019ll give you an example. George\u2019s orphanage was our first adoption. We went there. There were two or three babies per crib\u2014and rusty cribs that smelled terrible. There was death in the air. There was one nurse, taking care of 150 babies. When I saw that with my own eyes\u2014how bad things could get for these kids, I went from: \u201cWhy are we doing this?\u201d to, \u201cAlright! All kids\u2014get your stuff. We\u2019re leaving. You\u2019re following me. I\u2019m leading the charge out of here.\u201d It changed\u2014as a guy\u2014my whole view of what adoption was and sort of the mission that\u2019s associated with it\u2014especially, when you\u2019re getting a kid that\u2019s very much at risk of even death. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You mentioned earlier that, \u201cHere\u2019s George, with no arms.\u201d He weighed nine pounds at a year-and-a-half. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> They skipped him because they had to sit and hold the bottle for him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> The others\u2014they\u2019d just hand the bottle and walk away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, in some of these cultures, kids, with handicaps, are viewed as\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> \u2014burden. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; trash. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Human trash, literally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Or a curse, actually, in Romania. They were almost afraid to be near him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> They didn\u2019t want to touch him or look at him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay, Sharon, what\u2019s your lesson? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Well, you know, moms will say to me\u2014our kids are fairly cooperative and fairly selfless, as far as kids go\u2014I mean, you can\u2019t say any kid is completely selfless; but, \u201cHow do you do that?\u201d I think I, actually, have an easier time of it because my kids share resources. They look out for each other. They understand that mercy has been given to them. They fill the gaps and help each other. I think, sometimes, that\u2019s harder with a family with two children\u2014that can indulge them. So, I think that that\u2019s one of the benefits of\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And a lesson that you\u2019ve learned\u2014in terms of, not just seeing how kids react\u2014but it\u2019s interesting because I just heard you talk about First World problems. We talk about, at our house, First World problems. You\u2019ve learned that our understanding of life and how life is supposed to be is a little skewed; haven\u2019t you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay, Bob doesn\u2019t like this question\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here we go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because it causes him to have to review every moment, or every list, or\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re not going to like the question either. Just trust me; okay? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You may not like it, but I got the feeling there are a lot of listeners who would like to know: \u201cCould you just each capture a favorite moment on this journey of adoption, and of rescuing orphans, and giving them a family? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Now, I\u2019m okay with that question. [Laughter] The one he normally asks is the question, \u201cIf you could save only one memory\u2014only one thought...\u201d [Ahh!]\u2014and I go, \u201cForget...\u201d\u2014you see why I hate that question; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> I thought you were going to put us in a rowboat with the Boy Scout and a mom\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, and which one\u2014[Laughter] No, I think that\u2019s a great question. If you had to just give us a picture\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Literally, a moment? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A moment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Each of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014from your journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> I can think of when I was in Romania with George, meeting his biological family. They, through a translator, were apologizing and feeling guilty for giving him up. George said to them, \u201cMom and Dad, you saved my life by letting me be adopted.\u201d I just thought\u2014it all came together for me\u2014and I just said, \u201cHe gets it!\u201d And he\u2019s telling them this now. That\u2019s amazing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Adoption is life-giving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> My summary moment was probably this past August. George, our son, had been invited by a major, well-known band, with 14 Grammy\u2019s, to come out and play with them, on stage. And there were 6- or 7,000 people in the audience\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wait, you\u2019re not going to tell us who the band was?! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> It\u2019s the Goo Goo Dolls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; alright. Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> They are amazing people, by the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Now, you haven\u2019t established, for our listeners today, what George does with his feet. <br><br><strong>Michael:<\/strong> George plays cello, guitar, a little piano, and sings. He covered a Goo Goo Doll\u2019s song called <em>Iris<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve seen the video on YouTube<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michael:<\/strong> Yes. One of the lines in there is: \u201cI don\u2019t want the world to see me because I don\u2019t think that they\u2019d understand. When everything seems to be broken, I want you to know who I am.\u201d So, it\u2019s perfect. The lyrics, for him, represented his life to him. He did a cover of it that went viral. The Goo Goo Dolls saw the cover on YouTube and invited him to play with them. They brought him, out on stage, in front of 6,000 people. Everyone rushed to the front, broke through the barriers, took out their cell phones\u2014all you could see was camera phones, flashes, people saying, \u201cThis is amazing!\u201d He\u2019s playing guitar with his feet, in this huge venue; and everyone is cheering. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt flashed me back to the orphanage I told you about\u2014when he was in a crib with two other babies. The bars were rusty. No one was paying attention to him. He was viewed as total trash. He went from that to that. I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s the journey. That\u2019s what God does to our souls. That\u2019s what adoption is.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I want to thank you both for your obedient faith. I almost called it courageous faith, but I\u2014you probably would not call it courageous because you both are just doing your duty. But that, in essence, is what courage is all about. But I want to thank you for your obedience. I\u2019m wondering, Bob, before the broadcast is over, if we could just play maybe a little of that song, with George singing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think the Goo Goo Dolls would be fine with that. So, before we\u2019re done here today, we\u2019ll let you hear a little bit of that cover of George, singing the song, <em>Iris<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut before we do that, let me point you to our website\u2014FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014where you can find more information about how you can be a part of what God is doing to care for the needs of orphans, all around the world\u2014whether that\u2019s through adoption, whether it\u2019s through other forms of orphan care, foster care. At FamilyLifeToday.com, our Hope for Orphans<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> team has put together some wonderful resources to help guide you in thinking about the part you can play\u2014the part your church can play\u2014in caring for the needs of orphans. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click on the link you find there for our Hope for Orphans resources. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY for more information about the resources we have available, dealing with orphan care and adoption. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, before we wrap things up, I have two requests for you, especially if you\u2019re a long- time listener to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. If God has used this radio program or our ministry in your life and in your marriage, we\u2019d love to hear your story. We\u2019re inviting folks, this month, to call 1-800-FL-TODAY. When we answer the phone, push \u201c8\u201d. That will take you to a voice mailbox where you can leave us your story. 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If you\u2019re a regular listener\u2014if God has used this ministry in your life, in your marriage\u2014would you consider being a part of the team that makes this program possible through regular, monthly contributions to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> to cover the cost of producing and syndicating this daily radio program? Go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. There, you can make either a single, online, donation; or you can sign up to become a Legacy Partner. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. Click the link that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d; or call if you\u2019d like to become a Legacy Partner. 1-800-FL-TODAY is the number. We just appreciate the fact that you listen, and we do hope to hear from you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow when we\u2019re going to talk to a couple of moms who have something in common with the Dennehys. These are moms who have special-needs kids. In this case, the moms we\u2019ll be talking to have biological children who have some special needs. Jennifer Shaw and Amy Julia Becker will join us tomorrow. Hope you can tune in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd here, to close things out, is George Dennehy, along with the Goo Goo Dolls, and the song, <em>Iris<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSong:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <em>Iris<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tArtist:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 George Dennehy\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSongwriter\/Composer:\u00a0\u00a0 John T. Rzesnik (ASCAP)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPublishers:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 EMI Virgin Songs, Inc. 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