{"id":302692,"date":"2013-02-25T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-02-25T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/where-are-the-fathers\/"},"modified":"2013-02-25T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-02-25T17:00:00","slug":"where-are-the-fathers","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/where-are-the-fathers\/","title":{"rendered":"Where are the Fathers?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kids are running on fumes today. 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According to Doug Wilson, we have far fewer men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 What we need desperately are men who grow a backbone\u2014men who reject the idea that masculinity is a problem\u2014not only for men to be men, but for women to thrive as women and for children to thrive as children. Nobody else can do that. So, men have to be <em>not <\/em>irrelevant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, February 25<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Doug Wilson joins us today to talk about a hunger problem in our country\u2014father hunger. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think if there was a\u2014well, I was about to say if there was a word I would use to describe our guest today, \u201coutspoken\u201d might be a word I would use. I\u2019m just wondering if you got the folks downstairs, who handle our correspondence and our phones\u2014if you\u2019ve got them ready for what may happen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you think?!\u00a0 I was going to introduce him as an author of a number of provocative books\u2014it just causes one to think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Would provocative\u2014is that a good word for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was thinking of having engraved on my gravestone, \u201cAnd I was holding back.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, that\u2019s the voice of Doug Wilson. Doug, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you. It\u2019s good to be with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Doug is the Senior Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrew\u2019s College in Moscow, Idaho\u2014there\u2019s some good fly fishing up there, I\u2019m told. He\u2019s written a number of books\u2014been married for 37 years to his wife Nancy.\u00a0 They have three children; and those three children have been very, very fruitful\u201416 grandchildren!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, 16 grandchildren. God has been good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He has been good. You\u2019ve written a book called <em>Father Hunger<\/em>. I\u2019ve been really looking forward to this conversation because this is one of the big ideas of the Bible\u2014presenting God as our heavenly Father. That\u2019s what you\u2019re tapping into here\u2014that we\u2019ve got to learn from the heavenly Father\u2019s relationship with His Son as to how we need to be better fathers, ourselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely!\u00a0 Paul says in Ephesians, \u201cTherefore, as dearly loved children, be imitators of God.\u201d\u00a0 So, our relationship to God is one of Father\/children, obviously; but one of the fundamental things you can see about parents and children is that children learn by imitation. God has built us as imitators. So, he says, \u201cAs dearly loved children, be imitators of God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, let\u2019s take that seriously. What is God like?\u00a0 What does He do?\u00a0 How does He interact with His Son?\u00a0 I open the book with a discussion of the baptism of Jesus, which are the first words of God the Father in the New Testament. The first words are important. When the Father makes His entry, what is He doing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are six things that I draw out of that. The Father is there when the Son is baptized\u2014the Father is present\u2014He shows up. He makes His presence felt by giving His Spirit\u2014the Spirit descends on Jesus. He makes His presence known, propositionally, by saying something. He articulates what He believes. Fourth, He identifies with Jesus. He says, \u201cThis is My Son,\u201d\u2014\u201cI\u2019m with Him; He\u2019s with Me.\u201d He expresses His love for His Son\u2014\u201cThis is My beloved Son.\u201d\u00a0 He praises Him. He respects Him. He says, \u201c...with Whom I am well-pleased.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have it\u2014in that, I would argue, the quintessential father\/son moment. That is typical fatherhood: The father is there. He makes his presence felt. He makes his presence known. He identifies. He praises, and He loves. You say, \u201cAlright, how can I take that, as a sinful, fallen, human father and imitate it?\u201d Well, you can\u2019t imitate it perfectly, \u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014obviously\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014but being imperfect, and fallen, and sinful doesn\u2019t mean that you can\u2019t know what you\u2019re striving for\u2014\u201cThis is what fatherhood is like.\u201d So your son\u2019s got a game?\u00a0 Show up. Go! Make your presence felt. Make your presence known. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, introduce your son after the game. Identify him, \u201cThis is my son!\u201d\u00a0 Praise him for the job he did. Express your love for him. That\u2019s what fatherhood is like. We can\u2019t imitate it perfectly; but if you aim at nothing, you hit it. If you aim at what God tells us to aim for, you\u2019re going to do better than if you just gave up and were doing nothing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is a severe deficit of what you\u2019re talking about, in the American culture today\u2014an absence of that kind of fathering; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and that\u2019s what I\u2019m arguing, in this book, because fathers have either ditched\u2014they run away, they desert their families, they go\u2014or they are present, physically\u2014but they abdicate; and they\u2019re absent in other less tangible ways. They are checked out. Because of that, that has caused, I think, a severe deficit in the generations who\u2019ve grown up with that\u2014an emotional, spiritual, and psychological deficit. They are running on fumes. I call that \u201cfather hunger\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a result, people try to compensate. They try to fix it. They try to fix it with other things. They try to fix it with an overweening, paternalistic government. You know, if your father\u2014if your dad isn\u2019t watching out for you, \u201cI\u2019m going to construct my own federal government \u2018dad,\u2019\u201d\u2014that kind of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have feminism as the result of\u2014not women coming up with crazy ideas\u2014feminism is attributable, I believe, to fathers. Fathers need to address what God has called fathers to do. Fathers need to step up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, in this culture, it\u2019s not just a matter of men abdicating their responsibilities as fathers. The culture has actually turned against fathers in innumerable ways\u2014attacking this responsibility\u2014this position in the family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 In the process, even though we\u2019re still filling our jails with more and more young men and, for that matter, young women\u2014who grew up in homes that didn\u2019t have fathers\u2014we still don\u2019t get it! The culture is still attacking fathers; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. We\u2019re attacking fathers. We treat masculinity as though it were a disease. In the government school system, you\u2019ve got\u2014because the schools are not disciplined\u2014boys\u2014let me veer off to the side for a minute. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBoys thrive under discipline. Now, they take some discipline; but they thrive under it. If you don\u2019t know how to discipline\u2014if your standards have all had the wheels fall off\u2014and you can\u2019t run a coherent school system with all of these unruly boys\u2014if you call it a syndrome and drug them up\u2014you know, just hit them all in the head with a chemical rock\u2014you\u2019re treating their masculinity, which needs to be toughened, and disciplined, and directed. If you don\u2019t have any of that, you\u2019re just going to dope them up. You\u2019re just going to do something to restrain them to keep them from burning the place down. In the meantime, they\u2019re not learning how to be a godly man. We\u2019re treating masculinity as though it were some sort of sickness or an ailment\u2014something to be avoided. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, in the church, you have a similar form of it\u2014where masculinity is not honored. It is attacked. You\u2019re a problem if you show any signs of masculine initiative. So, what we need, desperately, are men who grow a backbone\u2014men who reject the idea that masculinity is a problem. Deviant, disobedient masculinity is a problem, obviously; but masculinity is the thing that is necessary\u2014not only for men to be men; but for women to thrive as women and for children to thrive as children. Nobody else can do that. So, if our culture turns on men, as I think you\u2019ve accurately said they have, nobody can resist that assault on men\u2019s behalf.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Doug, you may not know this, but I wrote a book called <em>Stepping Up:<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>A Call to Courageous Manhood. <\/em>In that book, I talk about five steps a man must make in his lifetime. One of the major steps that I think men are called to is to step off of the adolescent step onto the manhood step.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, as you said, step up and away from childish ways\u2014youthful lusts\u2014and become the man and become responsible. But when men are straddling those steps\u2014with one foot on the adolescent step and one foot on manhood\u2014and they are standing sideways, they\u2019re giving the world, and the culture, plenty to shoot at because when we behave badly, as men, we do a good job of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right; right. Absolutely!\u00a0 One of the things I mention in this book, and argue for, is that men can make a mess like nobody else. Survey the U.S. penitentiary system. How many men are in there as opposed to how many women?\u00a0 Men are troublemakers. Men are the destroyers. Men tear the place down; right? You must give men responsibility. Men <em>have to be<\/em> <em>not <\/em>irrelevant. Men have to have a job to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The flip side of that is men have to take responsibility, too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct. They\u2019ve got to discharge it. When you give it to them, they have to be held accountable for when they don\u2019t assume the responsibility you\u2019ve given them. There was one young father, who read another book of mine\u2014on related subjects\u2014a book called <em>Federal Husbands<\/em>. He read the book; and his exclamation was, \u201cFinally, I know what I\u2019m for!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not necessarily an obvious question; you know? \u201cWhat are men for? What do they do?\u201d\u00a0 I argue here that we see\u2014from the Garden on\u2014God has built men to provide and protect; okay?\u00a0 God tells Adam he\u2019s to tend the garden. He\u2019s to provide and protect. That\u2019s what I think our essential orders are. That means men have to be held accountable for when they don\u2019t provide and held accountable for when they don\u2019t protect. I think the only real way you can get men to step up is just to expect them to. Step back and, if they don\u2019t step up, nobody\u2019s going to. It\u2019s your turn.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, isn\u2019t that Genesis 3?\u00a0 Adam didn\u2019t step up when he should have; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct. Genesis 3 is the very first scientific experiment\u2014where the prohibition of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was given to Adam before Eve was created. She wasn\u2019t there when the prohibition was given\u2014and Adam was. She is told by the serpent, \u201cYou shall not surely die.\u201d\u00a0 She repeats it and garbles it, \u201cGod said we\u2019re not even to touch the tree.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s an additional requirement.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam\u2019s job was to protect his wife\u2014protect the garden and protect his wife. There\u2019s no better picture of abdication than that. She is deceived, Paul says, and ate first. Then, he ate second. But Paul also says in Romans that, \u201csin entered the world through one man.\u201d\u00a0 The race didn\u2019t fall until the head of the race\u2014Adam, who is responsible\u2014partook of the fruit. When he did it\u2014having abdicated\u2014given that choice over to his wife\u2014our troubles stemmed from that. So, it\u2019s sort of a junior high-kind of thing\u2014for men to blame women.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Which is immediately what Adam does when God comes to hold him accountable for what has happened\u2014he blames his wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, God comes down and says, \u201cWhat\u2019s all this?\u201d\u00a0 Adam, in effect, says, \u201cThe woman You gave me, she gave me the fruit and I did eat.\u201d\u00a0 But he says, \u201cThere are three people, basically, involved in this:\u00a0 God, the woman, and me. Out of the three, the two people I find fault with are you two.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI did nothing wrong.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, \u201cI did nothing wrong. The woman gave me the fruit, and You gave me the woman.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI was in here, by myself in the Garden, not sinning, and having a grand old time; and then, You came around and gave me a woman. Then, she came around and gave me fruit. I\u2019m just an innocent bystander.\u201d\u00a0 Men have been making excuses ever since.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And guys make excuses about being a father, as well. Let\u2019s just, real quickly, summarize what\u2019s wrapped up in a man being a provider and a protector. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Describe what a man should provide for his family, as a father\u2014as a responsible father who is following Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay. One of the things Paul says in the pastorals is that, \u201cIf a man does not provide for his household, he is worse than an unbeliever.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s an act of infidelity to not provide for your household.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re talking about financial provision?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I would <em>begin<\/em> with financial provision. Too many workaholic, American fathers substitute financial provision for every other kind of provision: \u201cI work hard. I work overtime at the office. I bring home the bacon. I don\u2019t have to do anything else.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; \u201cI\u2019m off the hook\u201d to provide moral training, spiritual development, etc.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong> Correct\u2014that, basically, financial provision is simply the beginning. In \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEphesians 5, Paul says that, \u201cHusbands are to nourish and cherish their wives.\u201d\u00a0 The word\u2014feed, nourish, and cherish is literally \u201cto keep warm\u201d.\u00a0 You\u2019re not just providing physical warmth, but emotional warmth\u2014the depth of relationship, the security of having a dad who\u2019s there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are so many different ways you can go off here. A father who leaves is very, very different, for example, than a father who\u2019s killed in war. A son whose father is killed in war misses his father and has to deal with that, but he\u2019s not ashamed of his father. He is proud of his father, and he doesn\u2019t believe that his father left because of him. You know, oftentimes, kids blame themselves\u2014the kid\u2019s saying, \u201cIt was something I did that made him go,\u201d or that sort of thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA father, who provides, is\u2014and this goes back to my first point about the Father being present and making his presence felt\u2014God the Father. The first thing that a father provides is himself\u2014that\u2019s the first thing he provides. Then, everything else is a symbol of that. If a father brings home the paycheck\u2014and gives that instead of himself\u2014then, what he\u2019s paying, actually, is extortion money. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 A father who gives his kids an expensive vacation, and a big allowance, and a plasma television in their room\u2014he gives them all of this stuff\u2014but he\u2019s distant\u2014that dad is not providing for his children. A father, who doesn\u2019t have all of that money\u2014but goes out in the backyard and throws rocks at a fencepost with his kid [Laughter]\u2014that\u2019s pretty inexpensive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, yes. And, to that point, let\u2019s wrap up the other half of a father\u2019s responsibility. A man not only is supposed to provide, he\u2019s also to protect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it\u2019s more than just protecting his family, physically, from invaders.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There\u2019s more going on in this culture, coming at your family, than most fathers, I think, ever really consider. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure. The serpent comes at your family in lots of different ways. It\u2019s not just criminals who break into your house and you have to defend your family, physically. That happens; and it\u2019s good, and glorifying, and God-honoring when a man steps in between the physical threat and his family. You may be aware that in that terrible shooting in Colorado\u2014where men put themselves in front of their girlfriends\u2014just their date.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, that instinct is a wonderful instinct. It\u2019s a God-given instinct. It\u2019s the way it ought to be. There ought to be\u2014danger over here\u2014and if your bride, or if your date, or if the girl you\u2019re with is here\u2014then, you get in between the danger and the woman you\u2019re with. But the devil\u2014the serpent\u2014gets at your family in lots of different ways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not just the criminals, or the random shooter, or the drunk driver. It\u2019s also the serpent coming after your family in those songs that the kids are listening to. It comes after them in the commercials. It comes after them in the conversations that they have with the other kids at school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It may come after your daughter with a young man\u2014pulling up, out front\u2014who wants to take her out on a date.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right; so, one of the things\u2014a father\u2019s authority\u2014there are two kinds of authority, which I cover in this book. There is the authority of office\u2014which every father has\u2014and then, there is the\u2014what we would call\u2014moral authority. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA father has the authority to write checks. You\u2019ve got a checkbook; and it\u2019s your name, and your address, and your ID number. All of that stuff is in the upper left-hand corner and the bank would say, \u201cYes, that\u2019s your checkbook.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s one kind of authority. The other kind of authority is having money in the account. That\u2019s another kind of authority. So, when the young man pulls up, outside of the house, and dad can see, right away, that he's a bozo; right? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 He can tell that, right away; but his daughter really likes this boy. Well, does she really like him because that\u2019s the first masculine attention she\u2019s had for ten years?\u00a0 Is that why she likes him?\u00a0 Is she responding because you\u2019ve been ignoring her?\u00a0 And now, after ten years of ignoring her, she starts to get some kind of masculine attention, you are going to step in and say, \u201cNo\u201d? What I would point out to a father, in that situation is that, \u201cYou don\u2019t have any money in the bank.\u201d\u00a0 If you sit down with me in some counseling situation\u2014as I\u2019ve had happen\u2014and the father says: \u201cBut I have to say, \u2018No,\u2019 to this suitor. I have to do this because it\u2019s not good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI say: \u201cBut, friend, you haven\u2019t made any deposits in this account for years, and years, and years. That\u2019s why your daughter is enamored with this guy. It doesn\u2019t do any good for you to prove to me that it\u2019s your checkbook. You\u2019re like the shopper who says, \u2018How can I be out of money?\u00a0 I still have checks left.\u2019 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou can open one of my books and prove to me that I wrote biblical verses, proving it\u2019s your checkbook. Yes, you\u2019re the dad. You\u2019re the one with this responsibility. But if you have the responsibility\u2014you have the responsibility to make deposits, over the years, so that when the time comes\u2014an emergency arises\u2014and you are the dad and you have to write a check for $10,000\u2014it clears, and it clears easily\u2014as opposed to some fathers who get to the point where they have to write a check for five bucks\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it bounces.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cand it bounces;\u201d right? That\u2019s a real problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had a dad, Doug, who couldn\u2019t get a credit card when he was 60 because he\u2019d never borrowed any money.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, he paid for everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He paid for everything. He paid cash because he had it. He had the relationship with me, as a boy. He didn\u2019t do it perfectly; but I\u2019m just reflecting on that as I think about how you\u2019ve described a father, as a man, who provides and protects.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hook Rainey\u2014that was his nickname, \u201cHook\u201d\u2014Hook Rainey was a great dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was a great dad because he provided\u2014not only, as you\u2019ve said, financially\u2014he also provided a relationship and a connection to me when he coached my Little League teams\u2014when he went to <em>every<\/em> game that I <em>ever<\/em> attended.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You speak of the Father being present when Jesus was baptized. My dad was always there. I mean, he drove two and a half hours to watch me sit on the bench in junior college. What a gift to have a dad like that!\u00a0 Speaking of a bank account, I think when I became a father\u2014which was, in my opinion, one of the most noble and one of the greatest privileges of my life\u2014being the father of six kids\u2014I went to the bank, back then, on my dad; and I\u2019m still going to that bank today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Bob, I think guys who are looking to maybe paint the picture of what a father looks like in this culture\u2014what Doug has put together here is a very biblical book\u2014that\u2019s anchored in our heavenly Father\u2019s heart, and life, and how He wants us to behave, as dads, as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think this is going to be something that\u2019s going to be very helpful.\u00a0 It\u2019s also going to be provocative. We started off by talking about the fact that you say some provocative things in this book as you are wont to do. But we want to encourage dads to get a copy of the book <em>Father Hunger <\/em>by Douglas Wilson. We\u2019ve got it in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. We want to invite you to go to FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019ve listened to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for any length of time<em>, <\/em>you know that this issue of men stepping up and being the men that God has called them to be is something that we feel strongly about here. In fact, we have designed video resources\u2014the \u201cStepping Up<sup>\u2122<\/sup>\u201d one-day event kit that we\u2019ve put together\u2014so that a church men\u2019s group can get together on a Saturday and have a one-day rally point to call guys to step up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe recently had hundreds of churches participate in the launch of this one-day resource, but it\u2019s available for churches to use any time that makes sense for you. If you\u2019re doing a retreat weekend for your church\u2014if you want a one-day launch point for your men, for any reason\u2014the \u201cStepping Up\u201d one-day event kit is available for that. Then, there\u2019s a ten-week video study that\u2019s designed for small groups of guys to go through together. A lot of churches are using it, again, with their entire men\u2019s ministry\u2014and then, breaking up into small groups after the guys have gone through each of the videos. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about our \u201cStepping Up\u201d video resources when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, you\u2019ll find Doug Wilson\u2019s book there, called <em>Father Hunger<\/em>. The \u201cStepping Up\u201d resources are available there, as well. Order from us, online, if you\u2019d like; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, let me ask you: \u201cWhen it comes to Jesus\u2014His ministry, His life, and, particularly, His resurrection\u2014do you have any friends or family members who are skeptics?\u00a0 Do you ever feel like you just aren\u2019t sure how to answer the questions they have, particularly, as it relates to the resurrection of Jesus?\u201d Author, Lee Strobel, has addressed that issue in a book that he has written called <em>The Case for Easter<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, we\u2019re making copies of that book available to those of you who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener-supported\u2014folks, like you, who listen, call in, from time to time, or go online to make a donation. It\u2019s those donations that keep us on the air in this city\u2014keep us online 24 hours per day and 7 days a week. We appreciate your financial support of this ministry. Again, if you make a donation, online, this week, we\u2019ll send you a copy of Lee Strobel\u2019s book, <em>The Case for Easter<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d. If you\u2019d prefer to make a donation over the phone, call 1-800-FL-TODAY and be sure to mention that you\u2019d like the book on Easter when you call. We\u2019re happy to make it available to you. We appreciate your support of the ministry, and we look forward to hearing from you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you will be back with us again tomorrow. Doug Wilson is going to be here again. We\u2019re going to talk about what a husband can do to help his wife learn how to submit to his authority. 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Pastor Doug Wilson, calls it father hunger.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-02-25.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 According to the U.S. Census, 49.3 percent of our population is male. According to Doug Wilson, we have far fewer men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 What we need desperately are men who grow a backbone\u2014men who reject the idea that masculinity is a problem\u2014not only for men to be men, but for women to thrive as women and for children to thrive as children. Nobody else can do that. So, men have to be <em>not <\/em>irrelevant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, February 25<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Doug Wilson joins us today to talk about a hunger problem in our country\u2014father hunger. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think if there was a\u2014well, I was about to say if there was a word I would use to describe our guest today, \u201coutspoken\u201d might be a word I would use. I\u2019m just wondering if you got the folks downstairs, who handle our correspondence and our phones\u2014if you\u2019ve got them ready for what may happen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you think?!\u00a0 I was going to introduce him as an author of a number of provocative books\u2014it just causes one to think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Would provocative\u2014is that a good word for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was thinking of having engraved on my gravestone, \u201cAnd I was holding back.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, that\u2019s the voice of Doug Wilson. Doug, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you. It\u2019s good to be with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Doug is the Senior Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrew\u2019s College in Moscow, Idaho\u2014there\u2019s some good fly fishing up there, I\u2019m told. He\u2019s written a number of books\u2014been married for 37 years to his wife Nancy.\u00a0 They have three children; and those three children have been very, very fruitful\u201416 grandchildren!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, 16 grandchildren. God has been good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He has been good. You\u2019ve written a book called <em>Father Hunger<\/em>. I\u2019ve been really looking forward to this conversation because this is one of the big ideas of the Bible\u2014presenting God as our heavenly Father. That\u2019s what you\u2019re tapping into here\u2014that we\u2019ve got to learn from the heavenly Father\u2019s relationship with His Son as to how we need to be better fathers, ourselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely!\u00a0 Paul says in Ephesians, \u201cTherefore, as dearly loved children, be imitators of God.\u201d\u00a0 So, our relationship to God is one of Father\/children, obviously; but one of the fundamental things you can see about parents and children is that children learn by imitation. God has built us as imitators. So, he says, \u201cAs dearly loved children, be imitators of God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, let\u2019s take that seriously. What is God like?\u00a0 What does He do?\u00a0 How does He interact with His Son?\u00a0 I open the book with a discussion of the baptism of Jesus, which are the first words of God the Father in the New Testament. The first words are important. When the Father makes His entry, what is He doing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are six things that I draw out of that. The Father is there when the Son is baptized\u2014the Father is present\u2014He shows up. He makes His presence felt by giving His Spirit\u2014the Spirit descends on Jesus. He makes His presence known, propositionally, by saying something. He articulates what He believes. Fourth, He identifies with Jesus. He says, \u201cThis is My Son,\u201d\u2014\u201cI\u2019m with Him; He\u2019s with Me.\u201d He expresses His love for His Son\u2014\u201cThis is My beloved Son.\u201d\u00a0 He praises Him. He respects Him. He says, \u201c...with Whom I am well-pleased.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have it\u2014in that, I would argue, the quintessential father\/son moment. That is typical fatherhood: The father is there. He makes his presence felt. He makes his presence known. He identifies. He praises, and He loves. You say, \u201cAlright, how can I take that, as a sinful, fallen, human father and imitate it?\u201d Well, you can\u2019t imitate it perfectly, \u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014obviously\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014but being imperfect, and fallen, and sinful doesn\u2019t mean that you can\u2019t know what you\u2019re striving for\u2014\u201cThis is what fatherhood is like.\u201d So your son\u2019s got a game?\u00a0 Show up. Go! Make your presence felt. Make your presence known. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, introduce your son after the game. Identify him, \u201cThis is my son!\u201d\u00a0 Praise him for the job he did. Express your love for him. That\u2019s what fatherhood is like. We can\u2019t imitate it perfectly; but if you aim at nothing, you hit it. If you aim at what God tells us to aim for, you\u2019re going to do better than if you just gave up and were doing nothing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is a severe deficit of what you\u2019re talking about, in the American culture today\u2014an absence of that kind of fathering; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and that\u2019s what I\u2019m arguing, in this book, because fathers have either ditched\u2014they run away, they desert their families, they go\u2014or they are present, physically\u2014but they abdicate; and they\u2019re absent in other less tangible ways. They are checked out. Because of that, that has caused, I think, a severe deficit in the generations who\u2019ve grown up with that\u2014an emotional, spiritual, and psychological deficit. They are running on fumes. I call that \u201cfather hunger\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a result, people try to compensate. They try to fix it. They try to fix it with other things. They try to fix it with an overweening, paternalistic government. You know, if your father\u2014if your dad isn\u2019t watching out for you, \u201cI\u2019m going to construct my own federal government \u2018dad,\u2019\u201d\u2014that kind of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have feminism as the result of\u2014not women coming up with crazy ideas\u2014feminism is attributable, I believe, to fathers. Fathers need to address what God has called fathers to do. Fathers need to step up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, in this culture, it\u2019s not just a matter of men abdicating their responsibilities as fathers. The culture has actually turned against fathers in innumerable ways\u2014attacking this responsibility\u2014this position in the family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 In the process, even though we\u2019re still filling our jails with more and more young men and, for that matter, young women\u2014who grew up in homes that didn\u2019t have fathers\u2014we still don\u2019t get it! The culture is still attacking fathers; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. We\u2019re attacking fathers. We treat masculinity as though it were a disease. In the government school system, you\u2019ve got\u2014because the schools are not disciplined\u2014boys\u2014let me veer off to the side for a minute. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBoys thrive under discipline. Now, they take some discipline; but they thrive under it. If you don\u2019t know how to discipline\u2014if your standards have all had the wheels fall off\u2014and you can\u2019t run a coherent school system with all of these unruly boys\u2014if you call it a syndrome and drug them up\u2014you know, just hit them all in the head with a chemical rock\u2014you\u2019re treating their masculinity, which needs to be toughened, and disciplined, and directed. If you don\u2019t have any of that, you\u2019re just going to dope them up. You\u2019re just going to do something to restrain them to keep them from burning the place down. In the meantime, they\u2019re not learning how to be a godly man. We\u2019re treating masculinity as though it were some sort of sickness or an ailment\u2014something to be avoided. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, in the church, you have a similar form of it\u2014where masculinity is not honored. It is attacked. You\u2019re a problem if you show any signs of masculine initiative. So, what we need, desperately, are men who grow a backbone\u2014men who reject the idea that masculinity is a problem. Deviant, disobedient masculinity is a problem, obviously; but masculinity is the thing that is necessary\u2014not only for men to be men; but for women to thrive as women and for children to thrive as children. Nobody else can do that. So, if our culture turns on men, as I think you\u2019ve accurately said they have, nobody can resist that assault on men\u2019s behalf.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Doug, you may not know this, but I wrote a book called <em>Stepping Up:<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>A Call to Courageous Manhood. <\/em>In that book, I talk about five steps a man must make in his lifetime. One of the major steps that I think men are called to is to step off of the adolescent step onto the manhood step.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, as you said, step up and away from childish ways\u2014youthful lusts\u2014and become the man and become responsible. But when men are straddling those steps\u2014with one foot on the adolescent step and one foot on manhood\u2014and they are standing sideways, they\u2019re giving the world, and the culture, plenty to shoot at because when we behave badly, as men, we do a good job of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right; right. Absolutely!\u00a0 One of the things I mention in this book, and argue for, is that men can make a mess like nobody else. Survey the U.S. penitentiary system. How many men are in there as opposed to how many women?\u00a0 Men are troublemakers. Men are the destroyers. Men tear the place down; right? You must give men responsibility. Men <em>have to be<\/em> <em>not <\/em>irrelevant. Men have to have a job to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The flip side of that is men have to take responsibility, too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct. They\u2019ve got to discharge it. When you give it to them, they have to be held accountable for when they don\u2019t assume the responsibility you\u2019ve given them. There was one young father, who read another book of mine\u2014on related subjects\u2014a book called <em>Federal Husbands<\/em>. He read the book; and his exclamation was, \u201cFinally, I know what I\u2019m for!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not necessarily an obvious question; you know? \u201cWhat are men for? What do they do?\u201d\u00a0 I argue here that we see\u2014from the Garden on\u2014God has built men to provide and protect; okay?\u00a0 God tells Adam he\u2019s to tend the garden. He\u2019s to provide and protect. That\u2019s what I think our essential orders are. That means men have to be held accountable for when they don\u2019t provide and held accountable for when they don\u2019t protect. I think the only real way you can get men to step up is just to expect them to. Step back and, if they don\u2019t step up, nobody\u2019s going to. It\u2019s your turn.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, isn\u2019t that Genesis 3?\u00a0 Adam didn\u2019t step up when he should have; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Correct. Genesis 3 is the very first scientific experiment\u2014where the prohibition of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was given to Adam before Eve was created. She wasn\u2019t there when the prohibition was given\u2014and Adam was. She is told by the serpent, \u201cYou shall not surely die.\u201d\u00a0 She repeats it and garbles it, \u201cGod said we\u2019re not even to touch the tree.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s an additional requirement.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam\u2019s job was to protect his wife\u2014protect the garden and protect his wife. There\u2019s no better picture of abdication than that. She is deceived, Paul says, and ate first. Then, he ate second. But Paul also says in Romans that, \u201csin entered the world through one man.\u201d\u00a0 The race didn\u2019t fall until the head of the race\u2014Adam, who is responsible\u2014partook of the fruit. When he did it\u2014having abdicated\u2014given that choice over to his wife\u2014our troubles stemmed from that. So, it\u2019s sort of a junior high-kind of thing\u2014for men to blame women.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Which is immediately what Adam does when God comes to hold him accountable for what has happened\u2014he blames his wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, God comes down and says, \u201cWhat\u2019s all this?\u201d\u00a0 Adam, in effect, says, \u201cThe woman You gave me, she gave me the fruit and I did eat.\u201d\u00a0 But he says, \u201cThere are three people, basically, involved in this:\u00a0 God, the woman, and me. Out of the three, the two people I find fault with are you two.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI did nothing wrong.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, \u201cI did nothing wrong. The woman gave me the fruit, and You gave me the woman.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI was in here, by myself in the Garden, not sinning, and having a grand old time; and then, You came around and gave me a woman. Then, she came around and gave me fruit. I\u2019m just an innocent bystander.\u201d\u00a0 Men have been making excuses ever since.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And guys make excuses about being a father, as well. Let\u2019s just, real quickly, summarize what\u2019s wrapped up in a man being a provider and a protector. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Describe what a man should provide for his family, as a father\u2014as a responsible father who is following Jesus Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay. One of the things Paul says in the pastorals is that, \u201cIf a man does not provide for his household, he is worse than an unbeliever.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s an act of infidelity to not provide for your household.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re talking about financial provision?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I would <em>begin<\/em> with financial provision. Too many workaholic, American fathers substitute financial provision for every other kind of provision: \u201cI work hard. I work overtime at the office. I bring home the bacon. I don\u2019t have to do anything else.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; \u201cI\u2019m off the hook\u201d to provide moral training, spiritual development, etc.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong> Correct\u2014that, basically, financial provision is simply the beginning. In \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEphesians 5, Paul says that, \u201cHusbands are to nourish and cherish their wives.\u201d\u00a0 The word\u2014feed, nourish, and cherish is literally \u201cto keep warm\u201d.\u00a0 You\u2019re not just providing physical warmth, but emotional warmth\u2014the depth of relationship, the security of having a dad who\u2019s there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are so many different ways you can go off here. A father who leaves is very, very different, for example, than a father who\u2019s killed in war. A son whose father is killed in war misses his father and has to deal with that, but he\u2019s not ashamed of his father. He is proud of his father, and he doesn\u2019t believe that his father left because of him. You know, oftentimes, kids blame themselves\u2014the kid\u2019s saying, \u201cIt was something I did that made him go,\u201d or that sort of thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA father, who provides, is\u2014and this goes back to my first point about the Father being present and making his presence felt\u2014God the Father. The first thing that a father provides is himself\u2014that\u2019s the first thing he provides. Then, everything else is a symbol of that. If a father brings home the paycheck\u2014and gives that instead of himself\u2014then, what he\u2019s paying, actually, is extortion money. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 A father who gives his kids an expensive vacation, and a big allowance, and a plasma television in their room\u2014he gives them all of this stuff\u2014but he\u2019s distant\u2014that dad is not providing for his children. A father, who doesn\u2019t have all of that money\u2014but goes out in the backyard and throws rocks at a fencepost with his kid [Laughter]\u2014that\u2019s pretty inexpensive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, yes. And, to that point, let\u2019s wrap up the other half of a father\u2019s responsibility. A man not only is supposed to provide, he\u2019s also to protect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it\u2019s more than just protecting his family, physically, from invaders.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There\u2019s more going on in this culture, coming at your family, than most fathers, I think, ever really consider. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure. The serpent comes at your family in lots of different ways. It\u2019s not just criminals who break into your house and you have to defend your family, physically. That happens; and it\u2019s good, and glorifying, and God-honoring when a man steps in between the physical threat and his family. You may be aware that in that terrible shooting in Colorado\u2014where men put themselves in front of their girlfriends\u2014just their date.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, that instinct is a wonderful instinct. It\u2019s a God-given instinct. It\u2019s the way it ought to be. There ought to be\u2014danger over here\u2014and if your bride, or if your date, or if the girl you\u2019re with is here\u2014then, you get in between the danger and the woman you\u2019re with. But the devil\u2014the serpent\u2014gets at your family in lots of different ways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not just the criminals, or the random shooter, or the drunk driver. It\u2019s also the serpent coming after your family in those songs that the kids are listening to. It comes after them in the commercials. It comes after them in the conversations that they have with the other kids at school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It may come after your daughter with a young man\u2014pulling up, out front\u2014who wants to take her out on a date.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right; so, one of the things\u2014a father\u2019s authority\u2014there are two kinds of authority, which I cover in this book. There is the authority of office\u2014which every father has\u2014and then, there is the\u2014what we would call\u2014moral authority. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA father has the authority to write checks. You\u2019ve got a checkbook; and it\u2019s your name, and your address, and your ID number. All of that stuff is in the upper left-hand corner and the bank would say, \u201cYes, that\u2019s your checkbook.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s one kind of authority. The other kind of authority is having money in the account. That\u2019s another kind of authority. So, when the young man pulls up, outside of the house, and dad can see, right away, that he's a bozo; right? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 He can tell that, right away; but his daughter really likes this boy. Well, does she really like him because that\u2019s the first masculine attention she\u2019s had for ten years?\u00a0 Is that why she likes him?\u00a0 Is she responding because you\u2019ve been ignoring her?\u00a0 And now, after ten years of ignoring her, she starts to get some kind of masculine attention, you are going to step in and say, \u201cNo\u201d? What I would point out to a father, in that situation is that, \u201cYou don\u2019t have any money in the bank.\u201d\u00a0 If you sit down with me in some counseling situation\u2014as I\u2019ve had happen\u2014and the father says: \u201cBut I have to say, \u2018No,\u2019 to this suitor. I have to do this because it\u2019s not good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI say: \u201cBut, friend, you haven\u2019t made any deposits in this account for years, and years, and years. That\u2019s why your daughter is enamored with this guy. It doesn\u2019t do any good for you to prove to me that it\u2019s your checkbook. You\u2019re like the shopper who says, \u2018How can I be out of money?\u00a0 I still have checks left.\u2019 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYou can open one of my books and prove to me that I wrote biblical verses, proving it\u2019s your checkbook. Yes, you\u2019re the dad. You\u2019re the one with this responsibility. But if you have the responsibility\u2014you have the responsibility to make deposits, over the years, so that when the time comes\u2014an emergency arises\u2014and you are the dad and you have to write a check for $10,000\u2014it clears, and it clears easily\u2014as opposed to some fathers who get to the point where they have to write a check for five bucks\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it bounces.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cand it bounces;\u201d right? That\u2019s a real problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had a dad, Doug, who couldn\u2019t get a credit card when he was 60 because he\u2019d never borrowed any money.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, he paid for everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He paid for everything. He paid cash because he had it. He had the relationship with me, as a boy. He didn\u2019t do it perfectly; but I\u2019m just reflecting on that as I think about how you\u2019ve described a father, as a man, who provides and protects.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hook Rainey\u2014that was his nickname, \u201cHook\u201d\u2014Hook Rainey was a great dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was a great dad because he provided\u2014not only, as you\u2019ve said, financially\u2014he also provided a relationship and a connection to me when he coached my Little League teams\u2014when he went to <em>every<\/em> game that I <em>ever<\/em> attended.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You speak of the Father being present when Jesus was baptized. My dad was always there. I mean, he drove two and a half hours to watch me sit on the bench in junior college. What a gift to have a dad like that!\u00a0 Speaking of a bank account, I think when I became a father\u2014which was, in my opinion, one of the most noble and one of the greatest privileges of my life\u2014being the father of six kids\u2014I went to the bank, back then, on my dad; and I\u2019m still going to that bank today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Doug:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Bob, I think guys who are looking to maybe paint the picture of what a father looks like in this culture\u2014what Doug has put together here is a very biblical book\u2014that\u2019s anchored in our heavenly Father\u2019s heart, and life, and how He wants us to behave, as dads, as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think this is going to be something that\u2019s going to be very helpful.\u00a0 It\u2019s also going to be provocative. We started off by talking about the fact that you say some provocative things in this book as you are wont to do. But we want to encourage dads to get a copy of the book <em>Father Hunger <\/em>by Douglas Wilson. We\u2019ve got it in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. We want to invite you to go to FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019ve listened to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for any length of time<em>, <\/em>you know that this issue of men stepping up and being the men that God has called them to be is something that we feel strongly about here. In fact, we have designed video resources\u2014the \u201cStepping Up<sup>\u2122<\/sup>\u201d one-day event kit that we\u2019ve put together\u2014so that a church men\u2019s group can get together on a Saturday and have a one-day rally point to call guys to step up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe recently had hundreds of churches participate in the launch of this one-day resource, but it\u2019s available for churches to use any time that makes sense for you. If you\u2019re doing a retreat weekend for your church\u2014if you want a one-day launch point for your men, for any reason\u2014the \u201cStepping Up\u201d one-day event kit is available for that. Then, there\u2019s a ten-week video study that\u2019s designed for small groups of guys to go through together. A lot of churches are using it, again, with their entire men\u2019s ministry\u2014and then, breaking up into small groups after the guys have gone through each of the videos. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about our \u201cStepping Up\u201d video resources when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Again, you\u2019ll find Doug Wilson\u2019s book there, called <em>Father Hunger<\/em>. The \u201cStepping Up\u201d resources are available there, as well. Order from us, online, if you\u2019d like; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, let me ask you: \u201cWhen it comes to Jesus\u2014His ministry, His life, and, particularly, His resurrection\u2014do you have any friends or family members who are skeptics?\u00a0 Do you ever feel like you just aren\u2019t sure how to answer the questions they have, particularly, as it relates to the resurrection of Jesus?\u201d Author, Lee Strobel, has addressed that issue in a book that he has written called <em>The Case for Easter<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, we\u2019re making copies of that book available to those of you who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener-supported\u2014folks, like you, who listen, call in, from time to time, or go online to make a donation. 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