{"id":302661,"date":"2013-01-03T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-03T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating\/"},"modified":"2013-01-03T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-01-03T17:00:00","slug":"understanding-our-motivation-for-eating","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating\/","title":{"rendered":"Understanding Our Motivation for Eating"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elyse Fitzpatrick talks about the pleasures of eating and warns us not to make food our Savior.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2013-01-03.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"24.13M","filesize_raw":"25302452","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2840],"tags":[2872,4870,5239],"podcast_series":[7426],"cwp_profile":[3438],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302661","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-addiction","tag-addiction","tag-food","tag-overeating","podcast_series-love-to-eat-hate-to-eat","cwp_profile-elyse-fitzpatrick","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302661\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302661\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"YSjeBB02UG\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating\/\">Understanding Our Motivation for Eating<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/understanding-our-motivation-for-eating\/embed\/#?secret=YSjeBB02UG\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Understanding Our Motivation for Eating&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"YSjeBB02UG\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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I have not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0And so David, the little Jewish boy\u2014he brought a Star of David.\u00a0 He said, \"This is a Star of David, and it's a part of my Jewish faith.\"\u00a0 Then, Mary, who is the little Catholic girl\u2014she brought her rosary beads.\u00a0 She said, \"This is a rosary.\u00a0 We use this in our Catholic faith.\"\u00a0 Then, Jack brought a casserole and said, \"I'm a Baptist.\"\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 I thought I'd share that with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Just write Bob.\u00a0 Bob's address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Bob Lepine, Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 That's all the address you need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 A casserole?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, how about that?\u00a0 Well, it fits with what we're talking about this week because we're talking about food, and how it fits into the culture, and how it can become an idol, and how fellowship gets defined around it, and how it becomes a problem in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No doubt about it.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick joins us\u2014helping us sort through what is biblical and what is not biblical about food.\u00a0 Elyse, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She has written a book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat:<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>Breaking the Bondage of Destructive Eating Habits<\/em>.\u00a0 As we talked about yesterday, Bob, Elyse's background as a trained counselor, a retreat speaker, and one who has spent a great deal of time researching this subject\u2014as well as struggling, as a young person, over the issue of food\u2014has really brought some light to this around the issue of food.\u00a0 This is a biblical issue.\u00a0 The Bible <em>does<\/em> talk a great deal about food and how we approach it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things, Elyse, you did in your book that I really like is you uncovered the motivations for why we do what we do about food.\u00a0 I really like this because you listed\u2014I don't know\u2014about seven wrong motivations.\u00a0 I just\u2014I want our listeners in on this because I think understanding our motivation helps us define a problem.\u00a0 Everybody knows a problem that's well defined is a problem that's nearly solved.\u00a0 If you can understand what the source is of the conflict, then that helps you approach it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet's just start out, \u201cWhat's the first motivation for why we do what we do about food?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0I think the first motivation would be a love of pleasure.\u00a0 Certainly, God has given us the ability to experience pleasure.\u00a0 We have taste buds on our tongue, and we have the ability to experience salt and sweet.\u00a0 We also can experience hot and cold\u2014so that chilly ice cream.\u00a0 We have the experience to\u2014the ability to experience something that's crunchy, something that's really smooth.\u00a0 See, God has given us that ability, and a very well-honed ability, to experience pleasure, as we eat. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur problem, of course, is when we want pleasure that we have not been given the right to have\u2014when we want pleasure too much.\u00a0 So, instead of enjoying a pleasure for the glory of God, the glory becomes the pleasure itself\u2014and having just whatever we want whenever we want it.\u00a0 When James is talking about why we do what we do in James 1, he says, \"Let no one say, when he is tempted, \u2018I am being tempted by God.\u2019 God isn't tempting us, for God cannot be tempted with evil, and He Himself tempts no one.\u00a0 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.\u00a0 Then desire, when it has conceived, gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is fully-grown, brings forth death.\u00a0 Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I have to look at my life and the things that I love\u2014the things that I desire\u2014and I have to say, \u201cThis thing in my life, whether it is the bowl of ice cream\u201d \u2014which it is not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Why do you keep\u2014why do you keep referring\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 You mentioned ice cream.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mentioned\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I could go to Diet Coke<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\u00a0 Would you like me to go to that instead?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Would you, please?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0No, no!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Whatever it is: \u201cWhy am I eating this?\u00a0 What is motivating that?\u201d\u00a0 It's a desire in my heart to have something that I want and don't want to be denied of.\u00a0 Is it wrong to eat those things?\u00a0 No, but I must not give myself to it all the time because our hearts are so easily enslaved; aren't they? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find a donut\u2014which, God has been gracious to me\u2014 and I do not visit Krispy Kreme<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, even though Krispy Kreme has come to California\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You don\u2019t go there, though?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t go there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Because I don\u2019t need to find a new thing I like to eat!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, that\u2019s fair.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I know my heart!\u00a0 My heart is so easily enslaved.\u00a0 If I find something that's really lovely, then I'll find myself there a lot.\u00a0 So, why go there?\u00a0 I mean, for me, it would not be wise\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u2014because I know the propensity of my heart, which is that I enjoy pleasure.\u00a0 It is very easy for me to like it so much that I will not do what the Lord is calling me to do, which is to live that kind of life that is under the Spirit's control. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that doesn't mean to say that there is anything wrong with eating.\u00a0 It's a problem of whether or not it's drawing my heart away, and how I respond when I don't get it, and, \u201cCan I just say, \u2018No\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is what, really, is first-place in your heart.\u00a0 I don't think we really pause to really ponder and think about eating to honor God.\u00a0 I don't think that thought occurs to many Americans.\u00a0 I think we have so much; and we're used to eating from such variety, as Elyse just mentioned.\u00a0 I don't think most of us think about the pleasure that God has given us and that that's something that was meant to be enjoyed by God, and we need to honor Him as we do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, how do I know if I'm eating to honor God?\u00a0 I mean, is it just if I say, \"Boy, this sundae is good.\u00a0 Thank you, Lord.\"\u00a0 Now, I\u2019m eating to honor God? How can I determine whether it's carnal, sinful, lustful pleasure, or it's godly behavior?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that's where those 12 questions come in handy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0These are the 12 questions you've included in your book that we can use to do a heart-check.\u00a0 We've got them on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com if folks want to review them; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 What I didn't want to do was say, \u201cEat \u2018x\u2019 number of calories a day; eat \u2018x\u2019 number of fat grams.\u201d\u00a0 I don't think the Bible does that.\u00a0 The Bible never sits down and says, \u2018This food is good.\u2019\"\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, of course, there are clean laws.\u00a0 There were the clean laws of the Old Testament.\u00a0 God is always overseeing what we eat.\u00a0 The clean laws of the Old Testament\u2014which, of course, we no longer observe because God says that He has called all things clean\u2014but God has never been overly concerned, at least not through Scripture, about, \u201cAre we eating a brownie or are we not eating a brownie?\u201d\u00a0 Those are not the questions.\u00a0 The questions are, \"Can I eat this food with praise and gratitude?\" and, \u201cAre you thinking about, \u2018Isn't God good?\u00a0 Look at how he has blessed me\u2014that I live in a country where I can have this kind of food and it's a joy for me to have it.\"\u00a0 Right?\u00a0 So, \u201cDo I thank God for the food?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother question to ask is, \"Am I eating this food because I coveted it?\u00a0 I saw somebody else had it, and I wanted it.\u201d\u00a0 We went to a Chinese restaurant last night, and walked through the restaurant, and looked at what was on everybody's plate, and decided, \"Oooh, I want that.\u00a0 I don't want that.\"\u00a0 See, we're not supposed to covet; and so I think that's an issue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible tells us\u2014actually, one of the Ten Commandments is, \"Thou shalt not murder.\"\u00a0 In the <em>Westminster Confession of Faith<\/em>, part of what it means not to murder is not to harm yourself physically.\u00a0 So, they said that you would have an appropriate use of meat, drink, recreation, and rest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, when you sit down to eat, which we did just a few moments ago before we came in the studio, what went through your mind?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Looks good!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0And, boy, am I hungry!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it tasted good; but how has writing a book like this\u2014and attempting to get more of a proper approach to food and enjoyment of that pleasure\u2014have you disciplined yourself, now, as you sit down at the table with your husband, even over leftovers, to say, \"Thank you, God, for the texture of these leftover scalloped potatoes.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, do you do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I would like to say that I do it 100 percent of the time.\u00a0 I don't think I do.\u00a0 I do it a lot.\u00a0 This way of thinking has\u2014not just with food\u2014but with idolatry, in general.\u00a0 I am very aware of the fact that, as John Calvin said, \"Our hearts manufacture idols.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I am very aware of the fact that my heart wants always to worship and love something other than the living God.\u00a0 So, when I sit down to eat, I am\u2014when I'm in my right mind\u2014consciously asking myself, \"Is this a food that's going to be good for me?\u00a0 Is it bad for me?\u00a0 How much should I have?\u00a0 Should I not overeat?\u00a0 When am I full?\u00a0 Am I stopping when I'm full\u201d\u2014those kinds of questions, yes.\u00a0 I would like to say I'm there 100 percent of the time\u2014I'm not, but I'm there a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you were making the point that we can murder ourselves and violate the commandment, \u201cThou shalt not murder,\u201d by eating things that are killing us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 So, for a person\u2014like the doctor said to you, \u201cBe careful or you\u2019re going to develop Diabetes.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s a very important issue because, you see, when you have the right perspective, you want to be healthy.\u00a0 Now, obviously, we\u2019re not always all going to be healthy because we\u2019re all going to die.\u00a0 If the Lord doesn\u2019t return, we will all have some illness and we will die.\u00a0 But we want to be as healthy as we can be for as long as we can be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, I want to treat my body as though it were something that I use to do the things that God has asked me to do.\u00a0 It\u2019s the only way I can function, at this point, since I\u2019m not disembodied.\u00a0 I have a body that I need to care for.\u00a0 That, again, is another one of those questions, \u201cWill eating this food create a problem for me physically.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, if I\u2019m a person who has really high cholesterol, I need to think about, \u201cIs this a good food for me to eat?\u201d\u00a0 Now, that doesn\u2019t necessarily mean that, on one occasion, I can\u2019t have something; but, again, my heart is that I am so drawn to certain pleasures and desires that I know that if I eat something and it\u2019s really good, even though I know I shouldn\u2019t have it, I\u2019ll probably want to have it again.\u00a0 I just need to be careful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Elyse, I want to go back to our motivation again for why we make this food an idol\u2014why we approach it wrongly.\u00a0 One of them, you talk about is\u2014I think is how we all get started\u2014 \u201cMy mama made me do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's easy to blame Mama; huh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, because we grew up with a mama who made us clean our plates.\u00a0 We feel like we have to eat it all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; and in some cultures, the preparing and enjoying of food is a huge part of what it means to love your family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, if you don\u2019t eat the food, you mean you\u2019re rejecting\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes!\u00a0 You\u2019re insulting people if you don\u2019t eat the food.\u00a0 That\u2019s a very, very large part, I know, of the Hispanic culture.\u00a0 The mama makes the food.\u00a0 If you don\u2019t eat the food and love the food, then you\u2019re not receiving love from her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cYou don\u2019t love Mama.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cYou don\u2019t love Mama.\u201d\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t mean to paint entire cultures with a broad brush; but, generally-speaking, that\u2019s what you have going on.\u00a0 I know that when I was growing up, it was, \u201cIf you\u2019re not feeling good or you\u2019re unhappy about something, go eat some chocolate.\u201d\u00a0 We do that.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s a very American woman sort of thing.\u00a0 You know, when we\u2019re unhappy, we\u2019ll go eat chocolate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0This whole, \u201cMama taught me how to be like this,\u201d \u2014I mean, you can see where somebody might have grown up in a family where fried food was a big deal\u2014where you ate generous portions, where everybody was overweight.\u00a0 Now, you're 27 years old.\u00a0 It's what you've known all your life.\u00a0 Is it not legitimate to say, you know, \"Mama made me this way\"? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Well, in one sense; but, of course, we wouldn't have become idolaters about it if we didn't have a sinful bent in our heart to begin with.\u00a0 If I didn't have the bent in my heart to sin\u2014to have desires that I would pursue\u2014as James said, \u201clusts\u201d that I want\u2014if I didn't have that already in my heart, then no matter what Mama gave me, I would not have made a god out of it; but, because I have, in my heart, the bent to sin, then I do tend to take God's good gifts and make them a god.\u00a0 We just have to be very careful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that another thing that's going on here, too, is many of us feel\u2014what I would want to call maybe a discontent, or an emptiness in life, and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We use food to fill it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \u2014we use food to fill it; and because, in America, we have so much food and so much opportunity to <em>get<\/em> food, and to get it cheap, and fast\u2014that someone is driving home from work in an afternoon.\u00a0 Maybe she's had a hard day at work.\u00a0 She knows\u2014when she goes home, the house is going to be empty; or there will be 12 kids climbing the walls.\u00a0 She thinks, \"Oh, I've just got to get a little bit of pleasure.\u00a0 I've just got to get a little bit of peace.\"\u00a0 So, she'll stop and get French fries or whatever.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 As you say that, I'm thinking to myself, \"Okay.\u201d\u00a0 I can recognize times when I have\u2014what I would call \u201cstress eating\u201d.\u00a0 When it's just been\u2014you've had a hard day, and you feel depleted.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you're thinking, \"I need fuel because I feel depleted, plus I need something that will just give me a sense of pleasure because I haven't had a whole lot of pleasure today.\u201d\u00a0 Is that wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, who is your savior at that moment?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Hm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 See, that would be the question.\u00a0 You know, God gives us food to strengthen our bodies.\u00a0 We are dependent, and we need it; but am I going first to the Lord and saying, \"Lord, You know the day that I have had!\u00a0 I pray You would flood me with Your grace now and give me Your joy.\u00a0 Help me to have Your peace, and then help me to use food the way I should use it,\" \u2014which is to give strength to my body.\u00a0 That is certainly appropriate\u2014but not to use food as my savior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re saying that a pint of Haagen-Dazs\u2014[Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re being way, way, way too specific.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Chocolate-covered almond Haagen-Dazs!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think I\u2019m getting the picture that you don\u2019t just pray, \u201cLord, you know the kind of day I\u2019ve had.\u201d \u2014\u201cPlease send the Haagen-Dazs my way!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I do think you\u2019re right, though.\u00a0 I think we do look to the things of this world, too often, to satisfy our souls.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There is one other reason, you mentioned in your book, about why we do what we do about food:\u00a0 \"It's not my fault,\u201d and, \u201cI was just born this way.\u00a0 I have a propensity\u2014I like chocolate, I like ice cream\u2014I like it together.\u00a0 I like it regularly.\"\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \"I want some tonight!\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. I mean, we have a culture today that looks for any and every excuse to say, \u201cYou know what? It's not my fault!\u00a0 It's not my responsibility.\u201d\u00a0 That's the total copout; isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 You know, we live in a culture that wants to deny sin.\u00a0 If I sin\u2014which, we don't even want to talk about sin anymore\u2014we just talk about dysfunctions and things like that\u2014but if we even use the word \"sin\", then we basically say, \"It's not my fault.\u00a0 It's someone else.\u00a0 It was my upbringing.\u00a0 It's my genes.\u00a0 It's my genetics.\u00a0 It's my hormones.\u00a0 It's my age.\u00a0 It's my brain chemistry.\u00a0 It's not <em>me<\/em>!\u201d\u00a0 You see?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the reality is, for the Christian to deny that it's us\u2014to deny that it's our basic sinful nature\u2014we're really denying the reality that Jesus Christ died to save <em>sinners<\/em>.\u00a0 Jesus Christ didn't die to save people with bad hormones.\u00a0 When we embrace the cross and look to the cross as the answer to our problems, then we're back on the right page again.\u00a0\u00a0 Is it hard to say, \"Hey, this is my problem\u2014I have a problem, here, with this area of my life\u201d?\u00a0 That's more difficult than saying that it's somebody else\u2014you know, \u201cIt's my mom's fault,\u201d \u2014but, on the other hand, it's very good because we have a Savior and we have the Holy Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I can imagine right now there is a listener, who may be about to either go home\u2014perhaps this evening\u2014and open the refrigerator door and face a bunch of choices.\u00a0 They're hearing you say, \"Don't embrace food; embrace the cross.\"\u00a0 They're going to look in their refrigerator and say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cThere\u2019s no cross in here.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014\"There's no cross in here.\"\u00a0 And, frankly, they don't have a frame of reference for what you mean when you say, \"Embrace the cross.\"\u00a0 What's the solution, here, to that person who really is struggling with food?\u00a0 Help them out\u2014give them some practical ways they can, \"Embrace the cross.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 They're in the car, on the way home.\u00a0 They're praying, \"God, help me to love You.\u00a0 Help me to think about what You did for me on the cross.\u00a0 Help me to think about the fact that Your Son died in my place and gave Himself for me so that I could embrace You and love You.\u00a0 Reveal Yourself to me in such a way that You are, to me, the greatest joy in my life.\u00a0 Help me, as I go home, to look at food for what it is\u2014a good gift coming to me from a good God\u2014but it's not going to satisfy the desires of my heart.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, C.S. Lewis said\u2014and I'm going to read a little quote here.\u00a0 He said, \"We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink, and sex, and ambition\"\u2014I add, \u201cand food\u201d\u2014\"when infinite joy is offered us\u2014like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in his slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea.\u00a0 We are far too easily pleased.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, to that woman\u2014to that woman, I would say, \"Don't try to please your heart with food.\u00a0 Please your heart with knowledge and fellowship with Jesus Christ.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, as you go home, realize that it was at the cross Jesus Christ broke the bonds of slavery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You don't have to be a slave to your own passion for food.\u00a0 You're free.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You can go to the refrigerator.\u00a0 You can make a choice to do what's healthy and good.\u00a0 Here is a novel thought\u2014some folks are not going to believe this thought\u2014and worshipful.\u00a0 Food can be a pleasurable, worshipful experience, without it becoming your god.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I'm thinking of a verse that you like to quote from time to time\u2014Galatians 5:1, \"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore, stand firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery.\"\u00a0 In fact, there are a lot of people for whom food has become a master.\u00a0 They've become enslaved by their diet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, it's embarrassing to say this, and I'm not jesting, because it was really true of me.\u00a0 I think I was enslaved to a half-gallon of Vanilla Nut Bean ice cream.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0A half-gallon?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I didn't eat all the half-gallon; but that's what the container was, you know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I was just making sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, I wouldn't eat the half-gallon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I didn't want to give folks the wrong impression.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But I would eat too many scoops!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0And who hasn\u2019t?\u00a0 I mean, we\u2019ve all been there; right?\u00a0 I think that\u2019s why we have to have our minds reshaped on this\u2014why we have to be conformed\u2014not to the culture\u2014but transformed by thinking the way God would direct us to think when it comes to food and drink.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what Elyse has done for us, here today, and what she does in the book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat, <\/em>which we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy of the book.\u00a0 Again, the book is called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat <\/em>by Elyse Fitzpatrick.\u00a0 Our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 You can order online or order by phone when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow\u2014just a quick word of thanks to those of you who, over the last five weeks, stepped up and helped support this ministry with a yearend donation.\u00a0 I checked with the team recently.\u00a0 They still are at work trying to come up with the final numbers for the end of the year, and it may be another couple of days before we get everything processed.\u00a0 We do know that many of you made a yearend donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re grateful for that; and we\u2019re looking forward to 2013 and seeing what we\u2019re going to be able to move forward with, in our ministry, as we look at the funds that were provided, here at the end of the year.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks again for your generous support and thanks to those of you who give each month to support FamilyLife, as well.\u00a0 Your support is needed year-round.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership with us and your engagement in the mission to see every home become a godly home and to effectively develop the kinds of godly families who change the world, one home at a time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to encourage you to be back with us again tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue talking about eating and drinking.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk about what you do if you feel like some aspect of eating or drinking has a hold on you.\u00a0 How do you break that pattern?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about it tomorrow.\u00a0 Hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<h2>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I am Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2013 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 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\"I'm a Baptist.\"\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 I thought I'd share that with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Just write Bob.\u00a0 Bob's address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Bob Lepine, Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 That's all the address you need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 A casserole?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, how about that?\u00a0 Well, it fits with what we're talking about this week because we're talking about food, and how it fits into the culture, and how it can become an idol, and how fellowship gets defined around it, and how it becomes a problem in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No doubt about it.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick joins us\u2014helping us sort through what is biblical and what is not biblical about food.\u00a0 Elyse, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She has written a book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat:<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>Breaking the Bondage of Destructive Eating Habits<\/em>.\u00a0 As we talked about yesterday, Bob, Elyse's background as a trained counselor, a retreat speaker, and one who has spent a great deal of time researching this subject\u2014as well as struggling, as a young person, over the issue of food\u2014has really brought some light to this around the issue of food.\u00a0 This is a biblical issue.\u00a0 The Bible <em>does<\/em> talk a great deal about food and how we approach it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things, Elyse, you did in your book that I really like is you uncovered the motivations for why we do what we do about food.\u00a0 I really like this because you listed\u2014I don't know\u2014about seven wrong motivations.\u00a0 I just\u2014I want our listeners in on this because I think understanding our motivation helps us define a problem.\u00a0 Everybody knows a problem that's well defined is a problem that's nearly solved.\u00a0 If you can understand what the source is of the conflict, then that helps you approach it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet's just start out, \u201cWhat's the first motivation for why we do what we do about food?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0I think the first motivation would be a love of pleasure.\u00a0 Certainly, God has given us the ability to experience pleasure.\u00a0 We have taste buds on our tongue, and we have the ability to experience salt and sweet.\u00a0 We also can experience hot and cold\u2014so that chilly ice cream.\u00a0 We have the experience to\u2014the ability to experience something that's crunchy, something that's really smooth.\u00a0 See, God has given us that ability, and a very well-honed ability, to experience pleasure, as we eat. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur problem, of course, is when we want pleasure that we have not been given the right to have\u2014when we want pleasure too much.\u00a0 So, instead of enjoying a pleasure for the glory of God, the glory becomes the pleasure itself\u2014and having just whatever we want whenever we want it.\u00a0 When James is talking about why we do what we do in James 1, he says, \"Let no one say, when he is tempted, \u2018I am being tempted by God.\u2019 God isn't tempting us, for God cannot be tempted with evil, and He Himself tempts no one.\u00a0 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.\u00a0 Then desire, when it has conceived, gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is fully-grown, brings forth death.\u00a0 Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I have to look at my life and the things that I love\u2014the things that I desire\u2014and I have to say, \u201cThis thing in my life, whether it is the bowl of ice cream\u201d \u2014which it is not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Why do you keep\u2014why do you keep referring\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 You mentioned ice cream.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mentioned\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I could go to Diet Coke<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\u00a0 Would you like me to go to that instead?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Would you, please?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0No, no!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Whatever it is: \u201cWhy am I eating this?\u00a0 What is motivating that?\u201d\u00a0 It's a desire in my heart to have something that I want and don't want to be denied of.\u00a0 Is it wrong to eat those things?\u00a0 No, but I must not give myself to it all the time because our hearts are so easily enslaved; aren't they? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find a donut\u2014which, God has been gracious to me\u2014 and I do not visit Krispy Kreme<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, even though Krispy Kreme has come to California\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You don\u2019t go there, though?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t go there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Because I don\u2019t need to find a new thing I like to eat!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, that\u2019s fair.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I know my heart!\u00a0 My heart is so easily enslaved.\u00a0 If I find something that's really lovely, then I'll find myself there a lot.\u00a0 So, why go there?\u00a0 I mean, for me, it would not be wise\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u2014because I know the propensity of my heart, which is that I enjoy pleasure.\u00a0 It is very easy for me to like it so much that I will not do what the Lord is calling me to do, which is to live that kind of life that is under the Spirit's control. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that doesn't mean to say that there is anything wrong with eating.\u00a0 It's a problem of whether or not it's drawing my heart away, and how I respond when I don't get it, and, \u201cCan I just say, \u2018No\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is what, really, is first-place in your heart.\u00a0 I don't think we really pause to really ponder and think about eating to honor God.\u00a0 I don't think that thought occurs to many Americans.\u00a0 I think we have so much; and we're used to eating from such variety, as Elyse just mentioned.\u00a0 I don't think most of us think about the pleasure that God has given us and that that's something that was meant to be enjoyed by God, and we need to honor Him as we do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, how do I know if I'm eating to honor God?\u00a0 I mean, is it just if I say, \"Boy, this sundae is good.\u00a0 Thank you, Lord.\"\u00a0 Now, I\u2019m eating to honor God? How can I determine whether it's carnal, sinful, lustful pleasure, or it's godly behavior?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that's where those 12 questions come in handy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0These are the 12 questions you've included in your book that we can use to do a heart-check.\u00a0 We've got them on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com if folks want to review them; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 What I didn't want to do was say, \u201cEat \u2018x\u2019 number of calories a day; eat \u2018x\u2019 number of fat grams.\u201d\u00a0 I don't think the Bible does that.\u00a0 The Bible never sits down and says, \u2018This food is good.\u2019\"\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, of course, there are clean laws.\u00a0 There were the clean laws of the Old Testament.\u00a0 God is always overseeing what we eat.\u00a0 The clean laws of the Old Testament\u2014which, of course, we no longer observe because God says that He has called all things clean\u2014but God has never been overly concerned, at least not through Scripture, about, \u201cAre we eating a brownie or are we not eating a brownie?\u201d\u00a0 Those are not the questions.\u00a0 The questions are, \"Can I eat this food with praise and gratitude?\" and, \u201cAre you thinking about, \u2018Isn't God good?\u00a0 Look at how he has blessed me\u2014that I live in a country where I can have this kind of food and it's a joy for me to have it.\"\u00a0 Right?\u00a0 So, \u201cDo I thank God for the food?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnother question to ask is, \"Am I eating this food because I coveted it?\u00a0 I saw somebody else had it, and I wanted it.\u201d\u00a0 We went to a Chinese restaurant last night, and walked through the restaurant, and looked at what was on everybody's plate, and decided, \"Oooh, I want that.\u00a0 I don't want that.\"\u00a0 See, we're not supposed to covet; and so I think that's an issue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible tells us\u2014actually, one of the Ten Commandments is, \"Thou shalt not murder.\"\u00a0 In the <em>Westminster Confession of Faith<\/em>, part of what it means not to murder is not to harm yourself physically.\u00a0 So, they said that you would have an appropriate use of meat, drink, recreation, and rest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, when you sit down to eat, which we did just a few moments ago before we came in the studio, what went through your mind?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Looks good!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0And, boy, am I hungry!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it tasted good; but how has writing a book like this\u2014and attempting to get more of a proper approach to food and enjoyment of that pleasure\u2014have you disciplined yourself, now, as you sit down at the table with your husband, even over leftovers, to say, \"Thank you, God, for the texture of these leftover scalloped potatoes.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, do you do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I would like to say that I do it 100 percent of the time.\u00a0 I don't think I do.\u00a0 I do it a lot.\u00a0 This way of thinking has\u2014not just with food\u2014but with idolatry, in general.\u00a0 I am very aware of the fact that, as John Calvin said, \"Our hearts manufacture idols.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I am very aware of the fact that my heart wants always to worship and love something other than the living God.\u00a0 So, when I sit down to eat, I am\u2014when I'm in my right mind\u2014consciously asking myself, \"Is this a food that's going to be good for me?\u00a0 Is it bad for me?\u00a0 How much should I have?\u00a0 Should I not overeat?\u00a0 When am I full?\u00a0 Am I stopping when I'm full\u201d\u2014those kinds of questions, yes.\u00a0 I would like to say I'm there 100 percent of the time\u2014I'm not, but I'm there a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you were making the point that we can murder ourselves and violate the commandment, \u201cThou shalt not murder,\u201d by eating things that are killing us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 So, for a person\u2014like the doctor said to you, \u201cBe careful or you\u2019re going to develop Diabetes.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s a very important issue because, you see, when you have the right perspective, you want to be healthy.\u00a0 Now, obviously, we\u2019re not always all going to be healthy because we\u2019re all going to die.\u00a0 If the Lord doesn\u2019t return, we will all have some illness and we will die.\u00a0 But we want to be as healthy as we can be for as long as we can be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, I want to treat my body as though it were something that I use to do the things that God has asked me to do.\u00a0 It\u2019s the only way I can function, at this point, since I\u2019m not disembodied.\u00a0 I have a body that I need to care for.\u00a0 That, again, is another one of those questions, \u201cWill eating this food create a problem for me physically.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor instance, if I\u2019m a person who has really high cholesterol, I need to think about, \u201cIs this a good food for me to eat?\u201d\u00a0 Now, that doesn\u2019t necessarily mean that, on one occasion, I can\u2019t have something; but, again, my heart is that I am so drawn to certain pleasures and desires that I know that if I eat something and it\u2019s really good, even though I know I shouldn\u2019t have it, I\u2019ll probably want to have it again.\u00a0 I just need to be careful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Elyse, I want to go back to our motivation again for why we make this food an idol\u2014why we approach it wrongly.\u00a0 One of them, you talk about is\u2014I think is how we all get started\u2014 \u201cMy mama made me do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's easy to blame Mama; huh?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, because we grew up with a mama who made us clean our plates.\u00a0 We feel like we have to eat it all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; and in some cultures, the preparing and enjoying of food is a huge part of what it means to love your family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, if you don\u2019t eat the food, you mean you\u2019re rejecting\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes!\u00a0 You\u2019re insulting people if you don\u2019t eat the food.\u00a0 That\u2019s a very, very large part, I know, of the Hispanic culture.\u00a0 The mama makes the food.\u00a0 If you don\u2019t eat the food and love the food, then you\u2019re not receiving love from her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cYou don\u2019t love Mama.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cYou don\u2019t love Mama.\u201d\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t mean to paint entire cultures with a broad brush; but, generally-speaking, that\u2019s what you have going on.\u00a0 I know that when I was growing up, it was, \u201cIf you\u2019re not feeling good or you\u2019re unhappy about something, go eat some chocolate.\u201d\u00a0 We do that.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s a very American woman sort of thing.\u00a0 You know, when we\u2019re unhappy, we\u2019ll go eat chocolate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0This whole, \u201cMama taught me how to be like this,\u201d \u2014I mean, you can see where somebody might have grown up in a family where fried food was a big deal\u2014where you ate generous portions, where everybody was overweight.\u00a0 Now, you're 27 years old.\u00a0 It's what you've known all your life.\u00a0 Is it not legitimate to say, you know, \"Mama made me this way\"? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Well, in one sense; but, of course, we wouldn't have become idolaters about it if we didn't have a sinful bent in our heart to begin with.\u00a0 If I didn't have the bent in my heart to sin\u2014to have desires that I would pursue\u2014as James said, \u201clusts\u201d that I want\u2014if I didn't have that already in my heart, then no matter what Mama gave me, I would not have made a god out of it; but, because I have, in my heart, the bent to sin, then I do tend to take God's good gifts and make them a god.\u00a0 We just have to be very careful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that another thing that's going on here, too, is many of us feel\u2014what I would want to call maybe a discontent, or an emptiness in life, and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We use food to fill it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 \u2014we use food to fill it; and because, in America, we have so much food and so much opportunity to <em>get<\/em> food, and to get it cheap, and fast\u2014that someone is driving home from work in an afternoon.\u00a0 Maybe she's had a hard day at work.\u00a0 She knows\u2014when she goes home, the house is going to be empty; or there will be 12 kids climbing the walls.\u00a0 She thinks, \"Oh, I've just got to get a little bit of pleasure.\u00a0 I've just got to get a little bit of peace.\"\u00a0 So, she'll stop and get French fries or whatever.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 As you say that, I'm thinking to myself, \"Okay.\u201d\u00a0 I can recognize times when I have\u2014what I would call \u201cstress eating\u201d.\u00a0 When it's just been\u2014you've had a hard day, and you feel depleted.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you're thinking, \"I need fuel because I feel depleted, plus I need something that will just give me a sense of pleasure because I haven't had a whole lot of pleasure today.\u201d\u00a0 Is that wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, who is your savior at that moment?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Hm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 See, that would be the question.\u00a0 You know, God gives us food to strengthen our bodies.\u00a0 We are dependent, and we need it; but am I going first to the Lord and saying, \"Lord, You know the day that I have had!\u00a0 I pray You would flood me with Your grace now and give me Your joy.\u00a0 Help me to have Your peace, and then help me to use food the way I should use it,\" \u2014which is to give strength to my body.\u00a0 That is certainly appropriate\u2014but not to use food as my savior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re saying that a pint of Haagen-Dazs\u2014[Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re being way, way, way too specific.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Chocolate-covered almond Haagen-Dazs!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think I\u2019m getting the picture that you don\u2019t just pray, \u201cLord, you know the kind of day I\u2019ve had.\u201d \u2014\u201cPlease send the Haagen-Dazs my way!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I do think you\u2019re right, though.\u00a0 I think we do look to the things of this world, too often, to satisfy our souls.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There is one other reason, you mentioned in your book, about why we do what we do about food:\u00a0 \"It's not my fault,\u201d and, \u201cI was just born this way.\u00a0 I have a propensity\u2014I like chocolate, I like ice cream\u2014I like it together.\u00a0 I like it regularly.\"\u00a0 [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \"I want some tonight!\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. I mean, we have a culture today that looks for any and every excuse to say, \u201cYou know what? It's not my fault!\u00a0 It's not my responsibility.\u201d\u00a0 That's the total copout; isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 You know, we live in a culture that wants to deny sin.\u00a0 If I sin\u2014which, we don't even want to talk about sin anymore\u2014we just talk about dysfunctions and things like that\u2014but if we even use the word \"sin\", then we basically say, \"It's not my fault.\u00a0 It's someone else.\u00a0 It was my upbringing.\u00a0 It's my genes.\u00a0 It's my genetics.\u00a0 It's my hormones.\u00a0 It's my age.\u00a0 It's my brain chemistry.\u00a0 It's not <em>me<\/em>!\u201d\u00a0 You see?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the reality is, for the Christian to deny that it's us\u2014to deny that it's our basic sinful nature\u2014we're really denying the reality that Jesus Christ died to save <em>sinners<\/em>.\u00a0 Jesus Christ didn't die to save people with bad hormones.\u00a0 When we embrace the cross and look to the cross as the answer to our problems, then we're back on the right page again.\u00a0\u00a0 Is it hard to say, \"Hey, this is my problem\u2014I have a problem, here, with this area of my life\u201d?\u00a0 That's more difficult than saying that it's somebody else\u2014you know, \u201cIt's my mom's fault,\u201d \u2014but, on the other hand, it's very good because we have a Savior and we have the Holy Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I can imagine right now there is a listener, who may be about to either go home\u2014perhaps this evening\u2014and open the refrigerator door and face a bunch of choices.\u00a0 They're hearing you say, \"Don't embrace food; embrace the cross.\"\u00a0 They're going to look in their refrigerator and say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cThere\u2019s no cross in here.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014\"There's no cross in here.\"\u00a0 And, frankly, they don't have a frame of reference for what you mean when you say, \"Embrace the cross.\"\u00a0 What's the solution, here, to that person who really is struggling with food?\u00a0 Help them out\u2014give them some practical ways they can, \"Embrace the cross.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 They're in the car, on the way home.\u00a0 They're praying, \"God, help me to love You.\u00a0 Help me to think about what You did for me on the cross.\u00a0 Help me to think about the fact that Your Son died in my place and gave Himself for me so that I could embrace You and love You.\u00a0 Reveal Yourself to me in such a way that You are, to me, the greatest joy in my life.\u00a0 Help me, as I go home, to look at food for what it is\u2014a good gift coming to me from a good God\u2014but it's not going to satisfy the desires of my heart.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, C.S. Lewis said\u2014and I'm going to read a little quote here.\u00a0 He said, \"We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink, and sex, and ambition\"\u2014I add, \u201cand food\u201d\u2014\"when infinite joy is offered us\u2014like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in his slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea.\u00a0 We are far too easily pleased.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, to that woman\u2014to that woman, I would say, \"Don't try to please your heart with food.\u00a0 Please your heart with knowledge and fellowship with Jesus Christ.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, as you go home, realize that it was at the cross Jesus Christ broke the bonds of slavery. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You don't have to be a slave to your own passion for food.\u00a0 You're free.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You can go to the refrigerator.\u00a0 You can make a choice to do what's healthy and good.\u00a0 Here is a novel thought\u2014some folks are not going to believe this thought\u2014and worshipful.\u00a0 Food can be a pleasurable, worshipful experience, without it becoming your god.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I'm thinking of a verse that you like to quote from time to time\u2014Galatians 5:1, \"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore, stand firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery.\"\u00a0 In fact, there are a lot of people for whom food has become a master.\u00a0 They've become enslaved by their diet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, it's embarrassing to say this, and I'm not jesting, because it was really true of me.\u00a0 I think I was enslaved to a half-gallon of Vanilla Nut Bean ice cream.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0A half-gallon?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I didn't eat all the half-gallon; but that's what the container was, you know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I was just making sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, I wouldn't eat the half-gallon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I didn't want to give folks the wrong impression.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But I would eat too many scoops!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0And who hasn\u2019t?\u00a0 I mean, we\u2019ve all been there; right?\u00a0 I think that\u2019s why we have to have our minds reshaped on this\u2014why we have to be conformed\u2014not to the culture\u2014but transformed by thinking the way God would direct us to think when it comes to food and drink.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what Elyse has done for us, here today, and what she does in the book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat, <\/em>which we\u2019ve got in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy of the book.\u00a0 Again, the book is called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat <\/em>by Elyse Fitzpatrick.\u00a0 Our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 You can order online or order by phone when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow\u2014just a quick word of thanks to those of you who, over the last five weeks, stepped up and helped support this ministry with a yearend donation.\u00a0 I checked with the team recently.\u00a0 They still are at work trying to come up with the final numbers for the end of the year, and it may be another couple of days before we get everything processed.\u00a0 We do know that many of you made a yearend donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re grateful for that; and we\u2019re looking forward to 2013 and seeing what we\u2019re going to be able to move forward with, in our ministry, as we look at the funds that were provided, here at the end of the year.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks again for your generous support and thanks to those of you who give each month to support FamilyLife, as well.\u00a0 Your support is needed year-round.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership with us and your engagement in the mission to see every home become a godly home and to effectively develop the kinds of godly families who change the world, one home at a time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to encourage you to be back with us again tomorrow when we\u2019re going to continue talking about eating and drinking.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk about what you do if you feel like some aspect of eating or drinking has a hold on you.\u00a0 How do you break that pattern?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about it tomorrow.\u00a0 Hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<h2>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I am Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of FamilyLife Today.\n\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2013 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302661","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302661"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302661"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302661"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302661"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302661"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302661"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302661"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}