{"id":302660,"date":"2013-01-02T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-02T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/is-food-your-idol\/"},"modified":"2013-01-02T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2013-01-02T17:00:00","slug":"is-food-your-idol","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/is-food-your-idol\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Food Your Idol?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Christian counselor Elyse Fitzpatrick, author of the book &#8220;Love to Eat, Hate to Eat,&#8221; talks about the pleasures of eating, and warns us not to make food our Savior or a salve for our discontent.  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Christ\u2014His great love for me sort of fades in importance.\u00a0 What becomes very important is, \u201cI've just got to go get that bagel.\u00a0 I've got to have a bagel!\u00a0 I don't feel good if I....\u201d\u00a0 So, my question is, \u201cCan you just say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This is FamilyLife Today for Wednesday, January 2<sup>nd<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We're going to talk today about the Bible and food.\u00a0 We may do a little meddling, too, so be warned!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Dennis?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Barbara and I went out to eat, recently, at a brand-new Mexican restaurant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You did?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 And I've never seen such service.\u00a0 We actually were served in less than two minutes\u2014and I'm talking about fajitas, steaming hot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0In two minutes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It had to be less than 120 seconds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It was unbelievable.\u00a0 But here is the interesting thing.\u00a0 As Barbara and I were sitting there, eating, we kind of looked around the restaurant.\u00a0 We started talking, \"You know, in America today, we really do have a problem with food.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, we either suffer from eating disorders\u2014 like some young people do of anorexia or bulimia\u2014or, as we grow up and become adults, I think we can make it an idol.\u00a0 Personally, I love food.\u00a0 I've sinned by eating too much.\u00a0 About a year ago, I went on my first diet I've ever been on in my life and lost about 30 pounds.\u00a0 I'm kind of looking at food differently than I ever have in the past.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat's why I'm excited about talking to the author of a book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat<\/em>.\u00a0 It's subtitled <em>Breaking the Bondage of Destructive Eating Habits<\/em>.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Elyse, I want to thank you for writing this book.\u00a0 I think it's a timely piece of work for the Christian community, and I really like your approach.\u00a0 It's a balanced approach toward food.\u00a0 Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you, thank you.\u00a0 It's my honor to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Elyse is a counselor, a speaker at retreats and conferences.\u00a0 She and her husband have three adult children.\u00a0 You struggled with food, as a young person growing up; is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, I did, very much.\u00a0 I can remember, growing up, I was always overweight.\u00a0 As a young person, I can remember my mom taking me to buy clothes for school and going to the chubby department.\u00a0 It was very, very embarrassing and humiliating, as a child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen as I got older and had children, it became much more of an issue for me so that I would find myself really binge-eating a lot when I was in high school.\u00a0 A number of friends of mine\u2014 we would just generally throw up after eating\u2014make ourselves throw up if we thought we had eaten too much.\u00a0 At that point, when I was in high school, nobody was talking about bulimia and anorexia.\u00a0 It wasn't what it is today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Where did you get the idea to throw up, though?\u00a0 I mean, did a group of young ladies get together one time and say, \"You know, this is the way we can control our weight,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I don't know where the idea came from.\u00a0 It's been around since the days of Rome.\u00a0 They actually had vomitoriums\u2014that's a horrid word\u2014but they had vomitoriums in ancient Rome, where people would go and banquet.\u00a0 Then, they would be ill from having eaten so much; so they would go make themselves throw up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So it's not a new phenomenon?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It's not new.\u00a0 It's not new in that people have been doing it for thousands of years.\u00a0 I think what is new about it is that it now has celebrity status\u2014and a number of the young women celebrities who have these habits\u2014practice anorexia, practice habits of bulimia\u2014have really made it almost something that girls want to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was talking to someone who is a resident dorm assistant at a Christian college in the Chicago area.\u00a0 She said that she thought that a full 40 percent of the girls in her dorms had some sort of eating disorder.\u00a0 So it's very, very much in our culture.\u00a0 It's very celebrity status.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe problem, of course, I think, in America, is that we have so much food to eat at such great variety.\u00a0 There is so much we can have.\u00a0 So, on one hand, we get a message that says, \"Have it your way, and have it all the time.\"\u00a0 Then, on another hand, we get the message that looking good\u2014looking thin\u2014is the point of life.\u00a0 So you have these two messages, which really are antithetical to each other.\u00a0 You have girls who really don't know how to control their eating, on one hand, and then want to be a size two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You mentioned shopping in the chubby section, as you were growing up.\u00a0 Is that your first recollection of even awareness?\u00a0 I'm trying to think, \u201cWhen was I aware of body shape and size, as a child; and did it trouble me?\u201d\u00a0 What do you remember about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I think that my first awareness of that would have been my mother was very concerned about how I looked.\u00a0 I can remember, on a number of occasions, her making comments about how I looked and how important it was for me, as a young girl, at that time, or as a woman, to be thin.\u00a0 Part, of course, of the problem is that we all have different body types.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 But, from my mom, I can remember feeling like I was rather a disappointment in some ways because I didn't look the way she wanted me to look.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 When we talk about food, it's not just an issue with the young, however.\u00a0 It's back to that Mexican restaurant where Barbara and I were eating and looking around.\u00a0 It was like, \"Man!\u00a0 We're an obese nation.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes we are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mean\u2014we really are an overweight country.\u00a0 The Bible does speak about the issue of food and how we approach it.\u00a0 Food can be an idol; can't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Absolutely, absolutely.\u00a0 It can be an idol on a number of levels.\u00a0 It can be an idol at the Mexican restaurant when I go there and have to have it a certain way.\u00a0 You see, I want my enchiladas with this certain sauce at a certain temperature.\u00a0 I am longing for it, craving it, desiring it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, wait a second, because I kind of like those enchiladas that way myself.\u00a0 I'm looking at Bob.\u00a0 He's over here, salivating!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I've packed away a few enchiladas in my time, too!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you saying that's wrong\u2014to want something that way?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 No, it's not wrong to desire God's good gifts.\u00a0 Food is a good gift from God.\u00a0 Psalms tells us that God opens His hand and satisfies the desire of every living thing.\u00a0 He gives us all good things to enjoy.\u00a0 So, it's perfectly right and good for us to love to eat the things that He has given us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur problem, of course, is that we have to have it a certain way.\u00a0 We become demanding with people who serve us.\u00a0 We are discontent when we can't get what we want or, of course, when we overeat, to the point that we harm our health.\u00a0 That, I think, is what the Lord would be more concerned about\u2014not so much, \u201cAre you eating three enchiladas?\u201d \u2014but, \u201cHow does this reveal your heart, and how does it impact your health?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m trying to think\u2014at some points in history, people who were heavy\u2014that was considered the popular look.\u00a0 You tried to put on weight; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 When was that, Bob? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you look at pictures of the Renaissance period.\u00a0 Many of the women pictured there are what we would consider heavy, in today\u2019s eyes.\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking of the Bible story of one of the judges.\u00a0 His name was Eglon, and his name meant \u201cfat bullock\u201d.\u00a0 When Ehud, the judge, went and killed him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re talking about a biblical\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is in the book of Judges.\u00a0 Ehud went in.\u00a0 Eglon was back, in the back room; and Ehud went in.\u00a0 It said he stuck his knife in to kill Eglon\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I remember this picture.\u00a0 This was not pretty.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and he kind of lost the knife.\u00a0 It just went\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014blubber\u2014in the blubber.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 And so, again, I\u2019m trying to think, \u201cWhere does the Bible talk about body size, or body shape, or body style in either flattering or unflattering ways?\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the only thing I\u2019m coming up with.\u00a0 What am I missing here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting how what is desirable, in body types, changes with culture.\u00a0 In our culture, right now, we have, generally speaking, homosexual fashion designers talking about how women should look\u2014and they should look, generally, like little boys.\u00a0 So, we have to not listen to that part of the culture.\u00a0 On the other hand, we do need to listen to the part of the culture\u2014the medical part of the culture\u2014that would tell us, \u201cWhat is health....\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible talks a lot about what we love, what we serve, what we live for, what we crave, what we worship; but the Bible is generally fairly silent about how much we weigh.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, there is no place in the Bible that it says that being thin is something good.\u00a0 The Bible talks about fatness being something good.\u00a0 Now, in an agricultural society like that, fatness would be thought of as God\u2019s blessing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Fruitfulness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Fruitfulness.\u00a0 So we don\u2019t want to conform ourselves to the world\u2019s image.\u00a0 On the other hand, we don\u2019t want to give in to the thought that we ought to be just able to eat whatever we want, whenever we want.\u00a0 All of God\u2019s good gifts must be had in moderation; but we have to also remember that Scripture tells us that our body is a gift to us from God, and that we must steward it properly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeing thin is not the point.\u00a0 The point is, \u201cIn my eating and drinking, am I glorifying God?\u201d and, \u201cAm I using my body\u2014am I stewarding it\u2014as the temple of the Holy Spirit for the Lord?\u201d\u00a0 In other words, what I want to do is, I want to be as healthy as I can be for as long as I can be so that I can have the strength to do things that the Lord asks me to do\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014to serve the Lord.\u00a0 Health is one issue I hear you saying; and then, not making food into an object of lustful desire or an idol, as Dennis called it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 If I look at it and say, \u201cOkay, I don\u2019t have this lustful problem with food and I\u2019m relatively healthy.\u00a0 Then, am I okay?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s really easy for us to think we don\u2019t have a lustful problem with food.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh see, now she\u2019s going to go to meddling, here.\u00a0 Yes, alright?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s very easy for us to think that we don\u2019t have a problem with it; but the question would be, \u201cHow do you respond when someone serves it to you in a way you don\u2019t like?\u201d or, \u201c...when it\u2019s not ready when you get home?\u00a0 How much time do you spend thinking about it?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, that\u2019s a convicting issue there.\u00a0 Anyone who\u2019s ever done a fast\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 If you\u2019ve ever fasted from food for 24 hours or longer, you begin to realize how much our society and our lives revolve around food.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, what I want you to do, just real quickly for our listeners is, in your book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat,<\/em> you have 12 questions that a person can ask him or herself to determine whether eating\u2014their eating\u2014is sinful or not.\u00a0 If you want to get all 12 of the questions, you can go to FamilyLife.com; but, Elyse, I think this addresses what Bob is talking about.\u00a0 When does our eating become sinful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I guess one question would be, \u201cAm I able to just say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as in \u201cno food\u201d, or \"no\" to dessert, or\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\"No,\" to dessert, or, \u201cI have a habit of\u201d \u2014I don't, personally; but let's say that you have a habit of\u2014\u201ceating a bagel and having a cup of coffee with it every morning.\u201d\u00a0 What is life like if you can't have it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now, why would I want to do that, though?\u00a0 I mean, if I like a bagel\u2014 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Am I getting personal now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, no, I like my cup of coffee because you can switch it from a bagel and coffee to just coffee; or you could have a Krispy Kreme<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, which is what Bob probably would have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, thank you very much.\u00a0 I think the point is there are going to be some mornings\u2014 you get up, and circumstances don't allow you to have your bagel and your cup of coffee.\u00a0 \u201cDo you have the joy of the Lord in those moments;\u201d right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly, exactly.\u00a0 You see, I don't want to be enslaved to any particular substance.\u00a0 So, if, for me\u2014what I have to have in the morning\u2014to make my day go right, to feel good, to feel like all is right with the world\u2014if I need to have a bagel, and cream cheese, and coffee or my Starbucks made, exactly the way that I want it\u2014then, I have a problem!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe problem is that, at that moment, that food\u2014that substance\u2014is more important to me than my relationship with Jesus Christ\u2014His great love for me, the cross.\u00a0 God's sovereign rule in my life sort of fades in importance; and what becomes very important is, \u201cI've just got to go get that bagel.\u00a0 I've got to have a bagel!\u00a0 I don't feel good if I....\u201d\u00a0 So, my question is, \u201cCan you just say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0\u00a0 Paul said, \"I buffet my body,\" and the word is \"buffet\" [Emphasis on first syllable] not \"buffet\" [Emphasis on last syllable].\u00a0\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes. \"I buffet my body and make it my slave, lest possibly, after I have preached to others I, myself, should be disqualified.\"\u00a0 So, is it sinful to eat a bagel?\u00a0 No, absolutely not.\u00a0 Is it sinful to drink a cup of coffee?\u00a0 No, it's not.\u00a0 But can it be sinful?\u00a0 Yes, it can when not having it would produce anger or discontent in my heart.\u00a0 It tells me something about my relationship with that substance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, let me ask you this\u2014because yesterday afternoon, about 3:00 in the afternoon, I just\u2014I started having a little craving, you know, for just something sweet.\u00a0 It just sounded good.\u00a0 We've got a snack machine, down on the first floor; right?\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI'll just wander down there and see if there's anything down in that snack\u201d \u2014actually\u2014what it was\u2014I walked by Tonda's desk.\u00a0 She had peanut M&amp;Ms<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> open, on her desk.\u00a0 Do you remember this?\u00a0 I looked at those peanut M&amp;M's; and I said, \"I want something like that.\" So, I went down, and I bought something out of the snack machine.\u00a0 Now, I could have real easily, I think, said, \"Nah, I'm not going to do that;\" but I had the craving, and so I indulged it.\u00a0 How can I tell whether I'm enslaved or whether I'm just responding to a bodily craving?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Can you say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I think I could have.\u00a0 I guess I have to try, on occasion; don't I?\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hold it. Tonda is shaking her head.\u00a0 Would you get Tonda?\u00a0 Keith, I want to ask Tonda\u2014\u201cTonda, why did you shake your head, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking.\u00a0 He doesn't need to go down to the snack machine.\u00a0 We have them in the cabinet next to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn't know that!\u00a0 You've got that stuff in the cabinet next to you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have a root of bitterness about Bob ripping off your chocolate-covered M&amp;Ms?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, her root of bitterness is that I mentioned on the air that she was snacking on M&amp;Ms yesterday afternoon!\u00a0 She doesn't want the whole world to know about that.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Laughter]\u00a0 So, the question is, \u201cCan I say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0 I say, \u201cWell, I think I can.\u201d\u00a0 You're saying, \"Well, try it sometime\"?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Sure, right.\u00a0 I don't think it's sinful to eat M&amp;Ms.\u00a0 It would probably be sinful for me to eat M&amp;Ms if I was severely obese and eating extra calories would be harming my life.\u00a0 Generally-speaking, though, it's not sinful for you to eat a piece of chocolate or to have some little something that you want for a snack.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe question is, \u201cAre you enslaved to it?\u201d\u00a0 You see, because we've been called to freedom\u2014and so I don't want there to be anything\u2014any created substance that I am enslaved to\u2014that I have to have in order for my day to go well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 For me, Elyse, it was realizing that my weight was putting me in a category of becoming a diabetic.\u00a0 The combination of my age and being overweight was putting me in a category where the doctor looked at me, when I did my physical, and he said, \"You know, here are the facts.\u00a0 At your height and this weight, you will develop Type II diabetes.\"\u00a0 I thought, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 That's not good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara, my wife, had been talking with me about perhaps losing a little weight.\u00a0 So, I decided, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I've got to do this.\u00a0 I've got to do it for the people I love.\u00a0 I don't want to grow old and have my life defined, if at all possible, around a hospital and around constant medical procedures because I didn't care for myself at a younger age.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI really hadn't ever been on a diet before.\u00a0 You know, I'd cut back on food; but I can say this\u2014one of the things I had to eliminate\u2014the very thing you're talking about\u2014I felt like it was an American right and my right, at the end of the day, after I'd had my meal\u2014to have a nice bowl of chilly ice cream, with cascading fudge and almonds, sprinkled on top.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When you say \"chilly\" ice cream, you don't mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Chilly\u2014really cold.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, that wasn't the flavor?\u00a0 I was imagining something that tasted terrible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Actually, Vanilla Nut Bean. Anyway, the point is\u2014that discipline, now, over a year-and-a-half later\u2014has really been good for me because I've noticed I'm not\u2014now, it's not that I can't overeat, but I'm not overeating like I used to.\u00a0 I think I was making food into some kind of an idol, you know\u2014enjoying the pleasure just a little too much\u2014 where it was too central to my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, if you go to most churches in the Christian community\u2014the Christian community is well-fed.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Fellowship tends to be, in church, about food, as well.\u00a0 In one sense that's appropriate, though, because what are we going to spend time doing at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb?\u00a0 I mean, there is a supper going to happen\u2014so fellowship around food is probably appropriate\u2014but I think our churches would be better served to not always have to incorporate food in every single function that we have.\u00a0 We want to be hospitable to each other\u2014and I think that's good\u2014but I just think we need to rethink this a little bit, here in America, particularly because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u2014we have so much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 We have so much.\u00a0 We have so many people in our churches who are so overweight\u2014that it's just such an issue\u2014but, again, you know, God has given us food to eat and the pleasure of food to eat as a good gift.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, there is a verse in Deuteronomy that talks about the second tithe in that passage.\u00a0 It says, \"When you are celebrating before the Lord, you can eat or drink anything you want as you celebrate before the Lord.\"\u00a0 See, that's very interesting.\u00a0 We can use food in celebration before the Lord; but we have to be very careful, with our hearts, because we are, by nature, idolaters.\u00a0 We will serve the food instead of the Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I find it interesting that Jesus made a statement to His disciples, over in Luke, Chapter 12, verse 22 and 23.\u00a0 He said, \"And for this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life as to what you shall eat, nor for your body as to what you shall put on\"\u2014and here is the statement.\u00a0 This is really a good statement for Americans\u2014\"for life is more than food, and the body more than clothing.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, you know, those are pretty simple words; but Jesus really nailed it.\u00a0 He said life is more than food.\u00a0 There are some people, I know, whose lives revolve around food\u2014the preparation of it, the enjoyment of it, the satisfaction from it.\u00a0 It is the center point of their lives\u2014their idol, as we say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you're pointing out, in your book, is that food is not bad\u2014it's a pleasure that God has given us.\u00a0 We just need to pull back and ask ourselves a number of questions.\u00a0 I want our listeners to make sure they go to FamilyLife.com and get all 12 of those questions, from your book, about food and our attitude toward food.\u00a0 I think we have to pull back and ask ourselves, \"Do we really have God's perspective on eating, and drinking, and how we approach the dinner table?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one of the things that we are trying to say here, this week, is that to simply take an approach that says, \u201cI\u2019m going to try and modify my behavior and use my willpower,\u201d \u2014to do that is probably setting you up for failure.\u00a0 We do have to recalibrate and get God\u2019s perspective on eating and drinking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRather than the world\u2019s perspective on what kind of body shape you ought to have, or how thin is too thin, or how fat is too fat, you really need God\u2019s perspective on how we handle food and drink.\u00a0 That\u2019s where Elyse is steering us in this book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat.<\/em>\u00a0 We have copies of it in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center.\u00a0 Starting off a new year, this might be the book you need to dive into; right?\u00a0 Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy of Elyse Fitzpatrick\u2019s book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat.<\/em>\u00a0 Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, toll-free: 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we kick off our new year, we want to take a minute and just say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you, who, during the month of December, were generous with us in making a yearend contribution to support <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>We are still running the numbers to see how things total up and see if we were able to take full advantage of the matching- gift opportunity that had been presented to us.\u00a0 We hope that\u2019s the case, and we are trying to wisely and prayerfully make plans for 2013\u2014a lot of that based on your generosity over the last five weeks.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo again, we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who helped support the ministry and for those of you who continue to support the ministry, month-in and month-out.\u00a0 <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>is listener-supported.\u00a0 We really appreciate those of you who partner with us and who share our mission to see every home become a godly home\u2014starting with our homes; right?\u00a0 So, \u201cThanks,\u201d again, for your support; and we look forward to a great 2013 together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can tune in to be with us again tomorrow.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick is going to be back.\u00a0 We\u2019re going 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Wednesday, January 2<sup>nd<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We're going to talk today about the Bible and food.\u00a0 We may do a little meddling, too, so be warned!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Dennis?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Barbara and I went out to eat, recently, at a brand-new Mexican restaurant.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You did?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 And I've never seen such service.\u00a0 We actually were served in less than two minutes\u2014and I'm talking about fajitas, steaming hot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0In two minutes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It had to be less than 120 seconds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It was unbelievable.\u00a0 But here is the interesting thing.\u00a0 As Barbara and I were sitting there, eating, we kind of looked around the restaurant.\u00a0 We started talking, \"You know, in America today, we really do have a problem with food.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, we either suffer from eating disorders\u2014 like some young people do of anorexia or bulimia\u2014or, as we grow up and become adults, I think we can make it an idol.\u00a0 Personally, I love food.\u00a0 I've sinned by eating too much.\u00a0 About a year ago, I went on my first diet I've ever been on in my life and lost about 30 pounds.\u00a0 I'm kind of looking at food differently than I ever have in the past.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat's why I'm excited about talking to the author of a book called <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat<\/em>.\u00a0 It's subtitled <em>Breaking the Bondage of Destructive Eating Habits<\/em>.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Elyse, I want to thank you for writing this book.\u00a0 I think it's a timely piece of work for the Christian community, and I really like your approach.\u00a0 It's a balanced approach toward food.\u00a0 Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you, thank you.\u00a0 It's my honor to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Elyse is a counselor, a speaker at retreats and conferences.\u00a0 She and her husband have three adult children.\u00a0 You struggled with food, as a young person growing up; is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, I did, very much.\u00a0 I can remember, growing up, I was always overweight.\u00a0 As a young person, I can remember my mom taking me to buy clothes for school and going to the chubby department.\u00a0 It was very, very embarrassing and humiliating, as a child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen as I got older and had children, it became much more of an issue for me so that I would find myself really binge-eating a lot when I was in high school.\u00a0 A number of friends of mine\u2014 we would just generally throw up after eating\u2014make ourselves throw up if we thought we had eaten too much.\u00a0 At that point, when I was in high school, nobody was talking about bulimia and anorexia.\u00a0 It wasn't what it is today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Where did you get the idea to throw up, though?\u00a0 I mean, did a group of young ladies get together one time and say, \"You know, this is the way we can control our weight,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I don't know where the idea came from.\u00a0 It's been around since the days of Rome.\u00a0 They actually had vomitoriums\u2014that's a horrid word\u2014but they had vomitoriums in ancient Rome, where people would go and banquet.\u00a0 Then, they would be ill from having eaten so much; so they would go make themselves throw up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So it's not a new phenomenon?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It's not new.\u00a0 It's not new in that people have been doing it for thousands of years.\u00a0 I think what is new about it is that it now has celebrity status\u2014and a number of the young women celebrities who have these habits\u2014practice anorexia, practice habits of bulimia\u2014have really made it almost something that girls want to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was talking to someone who is a resident dorm assistant at a Christian college in the Chicago area.\u00a0 She said that she thought that a full 40 percent of the girls in her dorms had some sort of eating disorder.\u00a0 So it's very, very much in our culture.\u00a0 It's very celebrity status.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe problem, of course, I think, in America, is that we have so much food to eat at such great variety.\u00a0 There is so much we can have.\u00a0 So, on one hand, we get a message that says, \"Have it your way, and have it all the time.\"\u00a0 Then, on another hand, we get the message that looking good\u2014looking thin\u2014is the point of life.\u00a0 So you have these two messages, which really are antithetical to each other.\u00a0 You have girls who really don't know how to control their eating, on one hand, and then want to be a size two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You mentioned shopping in the chubby section, as you were growing up.\u00a0 Is that your first recollection of even awareness?\u00a0 I'm trying to think, \u201cWhen was I aware of body shape and size, as a child; and did it trouble me?\u201d\u00a0 What do you remember about that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I think that my first awareness of that would have been my mother was very concerned about how I looked.\u00a0 I can remember, on a number of occasions, her making comments about how I looked and how important it was for me, as a young girl, at that time, or as a woman, to be thin.\u00a0 Part, of course, of the problem is that we all have different body types.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 But, from my mom, I can remember feeling like I was rather a disappointment in some ways because I didn't look the way she wanted me to look.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 When we talk about food, it's not just an issue with the young, however.\u00a0 It's back to that Mexican restaurant where Barbara and I were eating and looking around.\u00a0 It was like, \"Man!\u00a0 We're an obese nation.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes we are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mean\u2014we really are an overweight country.\u00a0 The Bible does speak about the issue of food and how we approach it.\u00a0 Food can be an idol; can't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Absolutely, absolutely.\u00a0 It can be an idol on a number of levels.\u00a0 It can be an idol at the Mexican restaurant when I go there and have to have it a certain way.\u00a0 You see, I want my enchiladas with this certain sauce at a certain temperature.\u00a0 I am longing for it, craving it, desiring it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, wait a second, because I kind of like those enchiladas that way myself.\u00a0 I'm looking at Bob.\u00a0 He's over here, salivating!\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I've packed away a few enchiladas in my time, too!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Are you saying that's wrong\u2014to want something that way?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 No, it's not wrong to desire God's good gifts.\u00a0 Food is a good gift from God.\u00a0 Psalms tells us that God opens His hand and satisfies the desire of every living thing.\u00a0 He gives us all good things to enjoy.\u00a0 So, it's perfectly right and good for us to love to eat the things that He has given us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur problem, of course, is that we have to have it a certain way.\u00a0 We become demanding with people who serve us.\u00a0 We are discontent when we can't get what we want or, of course, when we overeat, to the point that we harm our health.\u00a0 That, I think, is what the Lord would be more concerned about\u2014not so much, \u201cAre you eating three enchiladas?\u201d \u2014but, \u201cHow does this reveal your heart, and how does it impact your health?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m trying to think\u2014at some points in history, people who were heavy\u2014that was considered the popular look.\u00a0 You tried to put on weight; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 When was that, Bob? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you look at pictures of the Renaissance period.\u00a0 Many of the women pictured there are what we would consider heavy, in today\u2019s eyes.\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking of the Bible story of one of the judges.\u00a0 His name was Eglon, and his name meant \u201cfat bullock\u201d.\u00a0 When Ehud, the judge, went and killed him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re talking about a biblical\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is in the book of Judges.\u00a0 Ehud went in.\u00a0 Eglon was back, in the back room; and Ehud went in.\u00a0 It said he stuck his knife in to kill Eglon\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I remember this picture.\u00a0 This was not pretty.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and he kind of lost the knife.\u00a0 It just went\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014blubber\u2014in the blubber.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 And so, again, I\u2019m trying to think, \u201cWhere does the Bible talk about body size, or body shape, or body style in either flattering or unflattering ways?\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the only thing I\u2019m coming up with.\u00a0 What am I missing here?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting how what is desirable, in body types, changes with culture.\u00a0 In our culture, right now, we have, generally speaking, homosexual fashion designers talking about how women should look\u2014and they should look, generally, like little boys.\u00a0 So, we have to not listen to that part of the culture.\u00a0 On the other hand, we do need to listen to the part of the culture\u2014the medical part of the culture\u2014that would tell us, \u201cWhat is health....\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible talks a lot about what we love, what we serve, what we live for, what we crave, what we worship; but the Bible is generally fairly silent about how much we weigh.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, there is no place in the Bible that it says that being thin is something good.\u00a0 The Bible talks about fatness being something good.\u00a0 Now, in an agricultural society like that, fatness would be thought of as God\u2019s blessing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Fruitfulness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Fruitfulness.\u00a0 So we don\u2019t want to conform ourselves to the world\u2019s image.\u00a0 On the other hand, we don\u2019t want to give in to the thought that we ought to be just able to eat whatever we want, whenever we want.\u00a0 All of God\u2019s good gifts must be had in moderation; but we have to also remember that Scripture tells us that our body is a gift to us from God, and that we must steward it properly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeing thin is not the point.\u00a0 The point is, \u201cIn my eating and drinking, am I glorifying God?\u201d and, \u201cAm I using my body\u2014am I stewarding it\u2014as the temple of the Holy Spirit for the Lord?\u201d\u00a0 In other words, what I want to do is, I want to be as healthy as I can be for as long as I can be so that I can have the strength to do things that the Lord asks me to do\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014to serve the Lord.\u00a0 Health is one issue I hear you saying; and then, not making food into an object of lustful desire or an idol, as Dennis called it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 If I look at it and say, \u201cOkay, I don\u2019t have this lustful problem with food and I\u2019m relatively healthy.\u00a0 Then, am I okay?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s really easy for us to think we don\u2019t have a lustful problem with food.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh see, now she\u2019s going to go to meddling, here.\u00a0 Yes, alright?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s very easy for us to think that we don\u2019t have a problem with it; but the question would be, \u201cHow do you respond when someone serves it to you in a way you don\u2019t like?\u201d or, \u201c...when it\u2019s not ready when you get home?\u00a0 How much time do you spend thinking about it?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, that\u2019s a convicting issue there.\u00a0 Anyone who\u2019s ever done a fast\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 If you\u2019ve ever fasted from food for 24 hours or longer, you begin to realize how much our society and our lives revolve around food.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, what I want you to do, just real quickly for our listeners is, in your book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat,<\/em> you have 12 questions that a person can ask him or herself to determine whether eating\u2014their eating\u2014is sinful or not.\u00a0 If you want to get all 12 of the questions, you can go to FamilyLife.com; but, Elyse, I think this addresses what Bob is talking about.\u00a0 When does our eating become sinful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I guess one question would be, \u201cAm I able to just say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014as in \u201cno food\u201d, or \"no\" to dessert, or\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\"No,\" to dessert, or, \u201cI have a habit of\u201d \u2014I don't, personally; but let's say that you have a habit of\u2014\u201ceating a bagel and having a cup of coffee with it every morning.\u201d\u00a0 What is life like if you can't have it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now, why would I want to do that, though?\u00a0 I mean, if I like a bagel\u2014 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Am I getting personal now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, no, I like my cup of coffee because you can switch it from a bagel and coffee to just coffee; or you could have a Krispy Kreme<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, which is what Bob probably would have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, thank you very much.\u00a0 I think the point is there are going to be some mornings\u2014 you get up, and circumstances don't allow you to have your bagel and your cup of coffee.\u00a0 \u201cDo you have the joy of the Lord in those moments;\u201d right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly, exactly.\u00a0 You see, I don't want to be enslaved to any particular substance.\u00a0 So, if, for me\u2014what I have to have in the morning\u2014to make my day go right, to feel good, to feel like all is right with the world\u2014if I need to have a bagel, and cream cheese, and coffee or my Starbucks made, exactly the way that I want it\u2014then, I have a problem!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe problem is that, at that moment, that food\u2014that substance\u2014is more important to me than my relationship with Jesus Christ\u2014His great love for me, the cross.\u00a0 God's sovereign rule in my life sort of fades in importance; and what becomes very important is, \u201cI've just got to go get that bagel.\u00a0 I've got to have a bagel!\u00a0 I don't feel good if I....\u201d\u00a0 So, my question is, \u201cCan you just say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0\u00a0 Paul said, \"I buffet my body,\" and the word is \"buffet\" [Emphasis on first syllable] not \"buffet\" [Emphasis on last syllable].\u00a0\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes. \"I buffet my body and make it my slave, lest possibly, after I have preached to others I, myself, should be disqualified.\"\u00a0 So, is it sinful to eat a bagel?\u00a0 No, absolutely not.\u00a0 Is it sinful to drink a cup of coffee?\u00a0 No, it's not.\u00a0 But can it be sinful?\u00a0 Yes, it can when not having it would produce anger or discontent in my heart.\u00a0 It tells me something about my relationship with that substance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, let me ask you this\u2014because yesterday afternoon, about 3:00 in the afternoon, I just\u2014I started having a little craving, you know, for just something sweet.\u00a0 It just sounded good.\u00a0 We've got a snack machine, down on the first floor; right?\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI'll just wander down there and see if there's anything down in that snack\u201d \u2014actually\u2014what it was\u2014I walked by Tonda's desk.\u00a0 She had peanut M&amp;Ms<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> open, on her desk.\u00a0 Do you remember this?\u00a0 I looked at those peanut M&amp;M's; and I said, \"I want something like that.\" So, I went down, and I bought something out of the snack machine.\u00a0 Now, I could have real easily, I think, said, \"Nah, I'm not going to do that;\" but I had the craving, and so I indulged it.\u00a0 How can I tell whether I'm enslaved or whether I'm just responding to a bodily craving?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Can you say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I think I could have.\u00a0 I guess I have to try, on occasion; don't I?\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hold it. Tonda is shaking her head.\u00a0 Would you get Tonda?\u00a0 Keith, I want to ask Tonda\u2014\u201cTonda, why did you shake your head, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u00a0 He's always snacking.\u00a0 He doesn't need to go down to the snack machine.\u00a0 We have them in the cabinet next to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I didn't know that!\u00a0 You've got that stuff in the cabinet next to you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tonda:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you have a root of bitterness about Bob ripping off your chocolate-covered M&amp;Ms?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, her root of bitterness is that I mentioned on the air that she was snacking on M&amp;Ms yesterday afternoon!\u00a0 She doesn't want the whole world to know about that.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Laughter]\u00a0 So, the question is, \u201cCan I say, \u201cNo,\u201d?\u00a0 I say, \u201cWell, I think I can.\u201d\u00a0 You're saying, \"Well, try it sometime\"?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Sure, right.\u00a0 I don't think it's sinful to eat M&amp;Ms.\u00a0 It would probably be sinful for me to eat M&amp;Ms if I was severely obese and eating extra calories would be harming my life.\u00a0 Generally-speaking, though, it's not sinful for you to eat a piece of chocolate or to have some little something that you want for a snack.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe question is, \u201cAre you enslaved to it?\u201d\u00a0 You see, because we've been called to freedom\u2014and so I don't want there to be anything\u2014any created substance that I am enslaved to\u2014that I have to have in order for my day to go well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 For me, Elyse, it was realizing that my weight was putting me in a category of becoming a diabetic.\u00a0 The combination of my age and being overweight was putting me in a category where the doctor looked at me, when I did my physical, and he said, \"You know, here are the facts.\u00a0 At your height and this weight, you will develop Type II diabetes.\"\u00a0 I thought, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 That's not good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara, my wife, had been talking with me about perhaps losing a little weight.\u00a0 So, I decided, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I've got to do this.\u00a0 I've got to do it for the people I love.\u00a0 I don't want to grow old and have my life defined, if at all possible, around a hospital and around constant medical procedures because I didn't care for myself at a younger age.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI really hadn't ever been on a diet before.\u00a0 You know, I'd cut back on food; but I can say this\u2014one of the things I had to eliminate\u2014the very thing you're talking about\u2014I felt like it was an American right and my right, at the end of the day, after I'd had my meal\u2014to have a nice bowl of chilly ice cream, with cascading fudge and almonds, sprinkled on top.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When you say \"chilly\" ice cream, you don't mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Chilly\u2014really cold.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, that wasn't the flavor?\u00a0 I was imagining something that tasted terrible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Actually, Vanilla Nut Bean. Anyway, the point is\u2014that discipline, now, over a year-and-a-half later\u2014has really been good for me because I've noticed I'm not\u2014now, it's not that I can't overeat, but I'm not overeating like I used to.\u00a0 I think I was making food into some kind of an idol, you know\u2014enjoying the pleasure just a little too much\u2014 where it was too central to my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, if you go to most churches in the Christian community\u2014the Christian community is well-fed.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Fellowship tends to be, in church, about food, as well.\u00a0 In one sense that's appropriate, though, because what are we going to spend time doing at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb?\u00a0 I mean, there is a supper going to happen\u2014so fellowship around food is probably appropriate\u2014but I think our churches would be better served to not always have to incorporate food in every single function that we have.\u00a0 We want to be hospitable to each other\u2014and I think that's good\u2014but I just think we need to rethink this a little bit, here in America, particularly because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u2014we have so much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elyse:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 We have so much.\u00a0 We have so many people in our churches who are so overweight\u2014that it's just such an issue\u2014but, again, you know, God has given us food to eat and the pleasure of food to eat as a good gift.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, there is a verse in Deuteronomy that talks about the second tithe in that passage.\u00a0 It says, \"When you are celebrating before the Lord, you can eat or drink anything you want as you celebrate before the Lord.\"\u00a0 See, that's very interesting.\u00a0 We can use food in celebration before the Lord; but we have to be very careful, with our hearts, because we are, by nature, idolaters.\u00a0 We will serve the food instead of the Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I find it interesting that Jesus made a statement to His disciples, over in Luke, Chapter 12, verse 22 and 23.\u00a0 He said, \"And for this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life as to what you shall eat, nor for your body as to what you shall put on\"\u2014and here is the statement.\u00a0 This is really a good statement for Americans\u2014\"for life is more than food, and the body more than clothing.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, you know, those are pretty simple words; but Jesus really nailed it.\u00a0 He said life is more than food.\u00a0 There are some people, I know, whose lives revolve around food\u2014the preparation of it, the enjoyment of it, the satisfaction from it.\u00a0 It is the center point of their lives\u2014their idol, as we say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you're pointing out, in your book, is that food is not bad\u2014it's a pleasure that God has given us.\u00a0 We just need to pull back and ask ourselves a number of questions.\u00a0 I want our listeners to make sure they go to FamilyLife.com and get all 12 of those questions, from your book, about food and our attitude toward food.\u00a0 I think we have to pull back and ask ourselves, \"Do we really have God's perspective on eating, and drinking, and how we approach the dinner table?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one of the things that we are trying to say here, this week, is that to simply take an approach that says, \u201cI\u2019m going to try and modify my behavior and use my willpower,\u201d \u2014to do that is probably setting you up for failure.\u00a0 We do have to recalibrate and get God\u2019s perspective on eating and drinking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRather than the world\u2019s perspective on what kind of body shape you ought to have, or how thin is too thin, or how fat is too fat, you really need God\u2019s perspective on how we handle food and drink.\u00a0 That\u2019s where Elyse is steering us in this book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat.<\/em>\u00a0 We have copies of it in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center.\u00a0 Starting off a new year, this might be the book you need to dive into; right?\u00a0 Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy of Elyse Fitzpatrick\u2019s book, <em>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat.<\/em>\u00a0 Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, toll-free: 1-800-FL-TODAY; 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we kick off our new year, we want to take a minute and just say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you, who, during the month of December, were generous with us in making a yearend contribution to support <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>We are still running the numbers to see how things total up and see if we were able to take full advantage of the matching- gift opportunity that had been presented to us.\u00a0 We hope that\u2019s the case, and we are trying to wisely and prayerfully make plans for 2013\u2014a lot of that based on your generosity over the last five weeks.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo again, we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who helped support the ministry and for those of you who continue to support the ministry, month-in and month-out.\u00a0 <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>is listener-supported.\u00a0 We really appreciate those of you who partner with us and who share our mission to see every home become a godly home\u2014starting with our homes; right?\u00a0 So, \u201cThanks,\u201d again, for your support; and we look forward to a great 2013 together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can tune in to be with us again tomorrow.\u00a0 Elyse Fitzpatrick is going to be back.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk about how it is that we can eat and drink, and glorify God in the process.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2013 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302660","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302660"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302660"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302660"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302660"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302660"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302660"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302660"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}