{"id":302626,"date":"2012-11-07T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/dynamic-and-destructive\/"},"modified":"2012-11-07T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2012-11-07T17:00:00","slug":"dynamic-and-destructive","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/dynamic-and-destructive\/","title":{"rendered":"Dynamic and Destructive"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For awhile her life lacked direction. 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But now that she was back home in Arkansas, life was looking up.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2012-11-07.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kelley Tippy had already started to fall for Adam Brown when she learned that there was an issue.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I met him in October of \u201997.\u00a0 When I saw him, he was not under the influence the night I met him.\u00a0 It was probably about a month afterward, we were meeting each other just at a local restaurant, and he showed up late.\u00a0 He comes walking in, and I immediately notice something is wrong\u2014is very wrong.\u00a0 I just looked at him, and I was like, \u201cWhat is wrong with you?\u00a0 Are you on something?\u201d\u00a0 He looked at me; and he was like, \u201cI\u2019m sorry to tell you that I am.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, November 7<sup>th<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Kelley Brown joins us today to tell us how her drug-dependent boyfriend who eventually became her husband went on to become a national hero.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 When I first saw a copy of a book called <em>Fearless<\/em>, I thought, \u201cLet\u2019s see.\u00a0 Dennis wrote <em>A Call to Courageous Manhood<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI should probably pass this along to you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 And I started reading it, and I was reading around some other guys.\u00a0 They all start picking it up when I would set it down.\u00a0 (Laughter)\u00a0 This was just a manuscript.\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t the hard cover book that it became, but I thought, \u201cMan, I wonder if we could do some radio with Kelley Brown about the story of her husband, Adam Brown.\u201d\u00a0 And she\u2019s here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKelley Brown joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Kelley, welcome to the broadcast.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.\u00a0 Thanks for having me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kelley is a\u2014well, she is a fearless, courageous woman herself.\u00a0 She was married for nearly 12 years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Almost 12 years.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Almost 12 years to Adam.\u00a0 They had two children.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 We did.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Nathan and Savannah.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And she lives just a few miles south and west of here near Hot Springs, Arkansas.\u00a0 The reason this story is so special is there\u2019s really no veneer in this book.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mean, Kelley, I read the story of your life and Adam\u2019s life growing up, and I thought, \u201cYou are a remarkable woman to marry such a wild man.\u201d\u00a0 I mean Adam Brown\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014was off the charts wild man.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Where did you meet Adam?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I met him out with some friends.\u00a0 The moment I saw him, my girlfriend looked at me.\u00a0 She was like, \u201cJust stay away from him.\u00a0 He\u2019s the crazy one.\u00a0 We\u2019ve heard some stories about him.\u00a0 He just seems to be wild and crazy;\u201d but I immediately was taken with his smile and his pretty blue eyes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was almost love at first sight, huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, it was.\u00a0 It was love at first sight.\u00a0 For me, it really was, and for him.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But you told me that you had no idea about any of these stories.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know any of this stuff.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 What I want you to do right now, just to give an idea of what an on-the-edge character Adam was--take us to the Highway 70 bridge.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Gosh!\u00a0 Now, I was not here for this; but this is just something\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know you weren\u2019t.\u00a0 This was a story you found out after.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I\u2019ve heard it so many times, and I think it\u2019s amazing because when people would tell me\u2014we would talk about Adam, and they are like, \u201cOh, I\u2019ve got a story.\u201d\u00a0 I immediately would just cringe because I\u2019m like, \u201cOh no.\u00a0 What is this going to be?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cWhat now?\u201d\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I knew it was going to be something big, and the story of the bridge was\u2014they were driving in a Suzuki Samurai or a jeep.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, you say, \u201cThey.\u201d\u00a0 Who is \u201cthey\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 There were a couple other instigators in there.\u00a0 There were some friends, but they did not know he was going to do this.\u00a0 About that time, they turned around as they\u2019re on the bridge, and the top was off.\u00a0 One of the guys just turned back and looked like, \u201cOh, wait, Adam\u2019s gone!\u201d\u00a0 Adam had just jumped out of the moving car and into the water below.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 As it\u2019s going across?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 As it\u2019s going across the bridge.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, we\u2019re not talking about a bridge that is six feet off the water, here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, it\u2019s probably a good 50, 60\u2014somebody has even said close to 70 feet.\u00a0 He was pulling stunts like this all the time, but I think that\u2019s one of the craziest ones.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when I say love at first sight, it was Adam and everything that was inside his heart.\u00a0 He wore his emotions on his sleeve.\u00a0 You could just see this man that was just so full of life and really wanted to live it to the extreme.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, give me a context here.\u00a0 How old were you when you and Adam met?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was about 21, and he was 23.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, you met him.\u00a0 You were attracted to him.\u00a0 Were you\u2014had you grown up in the church?\u00a0 Were you following Christ at this point in your life?\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know I\u2019m not going\u2014my picture, by all means, is not perfect.\u00a0 As a younger child, I was raised in the church.\u00a0 My parents did separate during a very hard time in my life.\u00a0 I was around 13 when I noticed their arguing had picked up.\u00a0 Honestly, I was really struggling with my home life, with my family.\u00a0 It was not so much of a comfort to me anymore.\u00a0 I guess I was looking for that comfort.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it was after finding my Bible tucked away in my closet that really got me wondering, \u201cWhat in the world am I doing?\u00a0 I need to get back on track with God and my family and my friends.\u00a0 I need to become the person that I was and the person I thought God wanted me to be.\u201d\u00a0 So, I was--at this point in my life, I had gone through a lot.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You were coming back\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was coming back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and Adam, as a young man, had also come back as well, right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 He did.\u00a0 He did.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Tell them what he went through, though,before he came back.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, see, that\u2019s so powerful because this is the part I did not know, and it was huge.\u00a0 It was huge because my experience with my own personal battles was on a different level.\u00a0 Adam took it to\u2014with anything he does\u2014an extreme level.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was always a great child.\u00a0 He was honest.\u00a0 He was loyal.\u00a0 He was dependable.\u00a0 He was trustworthy.\u00a0 He was very active in athletics.\u00a0 He was a football player, and he was\u2014he had wrapped himself up into his football so much\u2014he was like a little football star.\u00a0 He really thought that was going to land him a spot on a college team.\u00a0 Once he figured out his personal size was not as big as his heart was, that, honestly\u2014that was not in his future.\u00a0 So, he really, really lost the direction in his life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had accepted Christ into his heart at a younger age, but I don\u2019t think that he actually developed that relationship.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt this point, once he realized he wasn\u2019t everything he thought he was, he started mixing with the wrong crowd and started having a new group of friends that his parents didn\u2019t know.\u00a0 They started seeing some changes in him that, quite honestly, were not characteristic of Adam.\u00a0 He decided to start experimenting with things.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is where Adam made his fatal mistake; and that was the fact that, at one point, he decided to abuse a drug.\u00a0 With Adam, he had already started, at this point, by drinking and doing the small things where he considered small\u2014they\u2019re not.\u00a0 Even drinking; you never know what your addiction is going to be.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember Adam telling me this about the first time that he actually abused this drug, and he said, \u201cImmediately, immediately, I knew the first time I did it that I had just sold my soul to the Devil, in a way, because I knew this was going to be a long-term problem; and I knew that it was something that was bigger than me, it was bigger, at that point, than just anything.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Almost destroyed his life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley: <\/strong>\u00a0It pretty much did.\u00a0 I mean for the most part.\u00a0 God was using it\u2014I mean He was using them at that point; but we didn\u2019t know that.\u00a0 It took him to the pit.\u00a0 I mean he was in his darkest time of his life.\u00a0 He had started abusing this drug and started stealing from his family members, started stealing from his friends, started being unreliable, unpredictable.\u00a0 With Adam, that\u2019s just not him.\u00a0 So, the drug really took over who Adam was.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ultimately, Adam hit rock bottom\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and it was deep.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was deep.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Share what happened and what those circumstances looked like.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 Yes, he did.\u00a0 He hit a really low point in his life, and he\u2019d hurt just about everybody he could hurt.\u00a0 It\u2019s so sad because I know Adam and I know that it was more just a cry for help; but he did try to take his own life, at one point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was New Years Eve, I think, of \u201895.\u00a0 He had locked himself in a bathroom, and he was abusing the drug at that point.\u00a0 So, I can\u2019t really say what was going through his mind, and I wasn\u2019t there; but hearing it from himself and hearing it from his friends, he had hit rock bottom.\u00a0 He was so empty inside, and he knew he had let down everybody he ever loved\u2014ran from his commitment to God, ran from everything; and basically, he figured it was the only way out.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t really\u2014I think Adam really was just\u2014it was more of a cry for help.\u00a0 He wanted somebody to be with him.\u00a0 Everybody had totally given up on him, and he was not used to that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had some felonies pressed against him.\u00a0 So, in lieu of going to jail for the felonies, they offered him the option of going to Teen Challenge.\u00a0 So, if he were to spend his time in Teen Challenge and really work on his addiction problem and he stayed there and did what he was supposed to do, all felonies would be dropped; and he would be able to come back from this okay.\u00a0 So, he did.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, when you met him and he was 23 years old, was that still a part of his life?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I met him in October of \u201897.\u00a0 So, he\u2019d been home about a month.\u00a0 When I saw him, he was not under the influence the night I met him.\u00a0 It was probably about a month afterward where we were meeting each other just at a local restaurant.\u00a0 He showed up late, which was unlike him.\u00a0 He comes walking in, and I immediately notice something is wrong\u2014is very wrong.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfter talking with him and the way he was looking at me and the way he was just moving about and stuff, I just looked at him.\u00a0 I was like, \u201cWhat is wrong with you?\u00a0 Are you on something?\u201d\u00a0 At that point, he looked at me; and he was like, \u201cI\u2019m sorry to tell you that I am.\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry to tell you that.\u201d\u00a0 <br><br>That\u2019s where I learned\u2014I really learned.\u00a0 I\u2019d heard stories.\u00a0 I\u2019d heard stories, but that\u2019s not the man I saw at that point.\u00a0 I was seeing somebody completely different until that moment.\u00a0 That\u2019s where I learned the severity of his problem.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, what happened in a restaurant when he comes in high and confesses that \u201cYes\u201d he\u2019s using drugs.\u00a0 What did you do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, my goodness.\u00a0 I don\u2019t really\u2014you know it doesn\u2019t make sense to a lot of people.\u00a0 It makes sense to me, but I just\u2014I, first of all, was worried about his safety.\u00a0 I did not want him on the road.\u00a0 I knew immediately it was a problem.\u00a0 It was a problem.\u00a0 So, I took him to a hotel room and just had him checked in for the night.\u00a0 We sat there, and we talked a lot about his problem.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was finding out about him and his past.\u00a0 He was letting me know of his past and everything he\u2019s gone through.\u00a0 That was\u2014it was eye-opening.\u00a0 I was like, \u201cWow!\u00a0 But that\u2019s not who you were this past month.\u201d\u00a0 It was sad.\u00a0 It was so sad because I saw this guy that could offer so much joy in life; and that\u2019s just what he exuded all other times.\u00a0 Now, to see him the way and the condition that he was, it was heartbreaking.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kelley, if you were my 21-year-old daughter\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, my goodness, I know.\u00a0 I know what you are going to say.\u00a0 (Laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and you call home and you say, \u201cDaddy\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014I\u2019d say, \u201cIt\u2019s over with him.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 My dad was not happy.\u00a0 He was not happy.\u00a0 You know a lot of people weren\u2019t.\u00a0 They were all telling me to leave him.\u00a0 Everybody said, \u201cHe\u2019s no good for you.\u201d\u00a0 At first\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You just met him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s not like you were engaged\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, no.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014you were married, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 We were\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wait until he gets his life turned around, then, we\u2019ll talk about what might happen.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know, but I guess at this point it was like I just learned of everything.\u00a0 So, then, I\u2019m just having to accept it.\u00a0 So, I check him into a hotel, make sure he is sober enough to get home the next day.\u00a0 He felt so bad.\u00a0 I remember he wrote a check for the hotel because he didn\u2019t want me to pay for it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he wrote a check in pencil.\u00a0 It was just so funny.\u00a0 In the memo line, he was like, \u201cI\u2019m just so sorry.\u00a0 I\u2019m so sorry I\u2019ve hurt you.\u201d\u00a0 That was like the first experience I had with him and his addiction; but at this point, I had already seen the man that was so just amazing to me that even in a month\u2014like I said, \u201cIt was love at first sight.\u201d\u00a0 I mean we fell hard, and we fell fast.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, again, he stood me up for a date.\u00a0 So, it was a really bad night.\u00a0 He\u2019d gone on this little binge.\u00a0 I was mad, and I was like, \u201cHe\u2019s not getting away with this.\u00a0 He\u2019s not going to get away with it.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to go track him down.\u201d\u00a0 So, I did.\u00a0 I tracked him down\u2014downtown.\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mean you went to some tough places.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I did.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what I was thinking.\u00a0 I was so angry that I just could not let him steal from his father again because he was driving his dad\u2019s truck.\u00a0 I just didn\u2019t want him to hurt his parents again.\u00a0 I was so sick of him hurting people.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I found him, he was actually crossing a street.\u00a0 He had a passenger with him.\u00a0 He never wanted me to see him like that.\u00a0 So, this was going to be my first opportunity.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I tracked him down.\u00a0 He finally stopped the car, jumped out of the car, and took off running.\u00a0 At that point, I approached the man on the other side of the car.\u00a0 This man then said, \u201cI\u2019ll take you to where he is,\u201d and I agreed.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I didn\u2019t know Adam was in the woods watching this whole thing go down; and had I looked in my rearview mirror, I would have seen him waving his arms trying to get me to stop because he saw this man get in the car with me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt that point, I think that sent him to a new low, a really new low.\u00a0 He thought maybe he just got me killed or lots of things could have gone wrong at that point because he did\u2014he drove me straight over to this drug dealer\u2019s house.\u00a0 I let the man out.\u00a0 I said, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I\u2019m just going to sit here in the car.\u00a0 If you see him, tell him to come on out.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sat there, not for very long.\u00a0 I got really nervous and kind of came to reality again.\u00a0 I was like, \u201cWell, I know he\u2019s\u2014he doesn\u2019t have his dad\u2019s truck.\u201d\u00a0 So, that made me feel better.\u00a0 Like, \u201cYou know what, God?\u00a0 If this is what\u2019s going to happen, he\u2019s Yours anyway.\u00a0 I need to quit trying to be in control of this because there is nothing I can do that is going to make him stop.\u00a0 He\u2019s got to want it on his own.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam, then, spent the night on the stairs of a little church out on the way to Hot Springs and just prayed and prayed and prayed.\u00a0 He hitchhiked the next morning to the airport and called a friend.\u00a0 He got on the plane and went to Texas.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was through a lot of conversation, and I don\u2019t know--we were just trying to figure out the right path for his life and for us, as well, as a couple.\u00a0 I knew that we loved each other greatly, and that was something that could not be changed.\u00a0 I knew that God was\u2014or I felt that God was telling me to stick in there with him and just be there, be as faithful as I could, be as strong as I could for him, and just know that God can perform miracles.\u00a0 And for Adam\u2019s life to be changed would truly be a miracle.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I remember him calling me.\u00a0 He said, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I can kick this.\u00a0 I can beat this.\u00a0 I know I can do it.\u00a0 I know I can do it.\u00a0 And we\u2019ll do it together.\u201d\u00a0 He\u2019s like, \u201cBut this is what I want to do: I want to join the military.\u00a0 This is what I wanted to do a long time ago before I lost my direction.\u00a0 This is what I want to do.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to do it, and I\u2019m going to beat it.\u00a0 But there is one thing: You have to marry me.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cOkay.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cOkay.\u201d\u00a0 So, he\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Over the phone?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Over the phone.\u00a0 It makes no sense, I know.\u00a0 I sound crazy.\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 After a major drug-induced binge?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I just had that much faith in God that He would change the man I loved because I knew that\u2014I knew that Adam was searching and really seeking God\u2019s grace on this.\u00a0 He was begging for it, and he wanted to change.\u00a0 I knew that.\u00a0 I just felt he needed somebody to be there for him and help him keep accountable.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought that him moving and going into the military\u2014we figured that if he got in, that was going to be a divine intervention anyway.\u00a0 There were going to be a lot of obstacles to even get in the military.\u00a0 So, after he did, it was like, \u201cWow!\u00a0 Okay, he\u2019s in the military.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to leave this place.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to get out of here, and we\u2019re going to start a new life.\u00a0 You don\u2019t have to look at those same faces all the time when you\u2019re recovering.\u201d\u00a0 It was key.\u00a0 It was key.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have to go back to that moment when you and Adam are standing looking at one another and exchanging vows.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 At that point, did you still wonder if he was going to be able to beat it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I never doubted he would beat it.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what it was.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what it was, but there was something about Adam.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just knew, and God was\u2014I felt like He was really telling me, \u201cThis can happen.\u00a0 Miracles can happen.\u201d\u00a0 Maybe, it was just\u2014I was just determined.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if God put that drive in me or what had happened\u2014maybe from my past or\u2014I just did not want him to just give up and just\u2014I just figured\u2014I just knew he would.\u00a0 That\u2019s just by knowing Adam and spending time with him and really, I just believed in him; and I believed in God completely.\u00a0 I put my faith there.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know there are a lot of people who have taken the same step you took\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and it didn\u2019t turn out the way it turned out for you.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s not that I was pretending it wasn\u2019t going to\u2014that it didn\u2019t have that possibility, but I just went in it with my faith.\u00a0 It was completely by faith; and I can totally say\u2014I mean I know that God placed us together.\u00a0 I know for a fact that the life that he led is reaching people in so many places that are untouchable at some points because it\u2019s not sugar-coated.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam wasn\u2019t sugar-coated\u2014full throttle Adam all the time even with his addiction.\u00a0 That was very full throttle as well; but also, the way he loved you, the way he treated you.\u00a0 I saw that side, and that\u2019s what I wanted to bring out in him because I knew he could be so much more than what he was.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kelley, because I\u2019ve read your book, I know the rest of the story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is no question in my mind your love for that young man saved his life from ruin and leaving a legacy of ruin.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelley:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019ve only begun to hear this story, and it is a powerful love story.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, there\u2019s no doubt about that, Bob.\u00a0 I just want to have a little disclaimer here, and I think Kelley would agree with me; that if a young lady or a young man is about to step into a relationship where it looks like a compromise, you need to really seek out godly counsel.\u00a0 It\u2019s not a time to make a decision in rebellion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDid God use Kelley in Adam\u2019s life?\u00a0 No doubt about it, but I\u2019d be careful of any single person who is hearing this right now\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and they\u2019re in a relationship where they\u2019re going, \u201cI\u2019m not sure about this.\u201d\u00a0 It may be time to hit the brakes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hit the pause button.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 More often than not, things go badly; and your optimism on the front end\u2014you face some really hard times.\u00a0 I mean Kelley faced some hard times in her relationship with Adam.\u00a0 To hear a story of God doing a great redemptive work, I mean we rejoice in that; but again, more often than not, what happens is that there\u2019s a long, painful road and a couple winds up in a hard spot for a lot of years\u2014maybe for an entire lifetime.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s one of the reasons we encourage couples to go to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway before they make a decision about getting married.\u00a0 You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link for the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> if you\u2019d like more information; and get a copy of the book that tells Adam Brown\u2019s story.\u00a0 It\u2019s called <em>Fearless<\/em>, and we\u2019ve got it in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, we\u2019ll just mention that this book is authentic in terms of how it presents the kind of language that Navy SEALs sometimes use.\u00a0 While it\u2019s not our normal practice to offer or recommend a book that has that kind of language in it, there is a power in Adam\u2019s story; and you may want to get this book and pass it on to someone you know who needs to read a story about redemption.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Again, the title of the book is <em>Fearless<\/em>.\u00a0 Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information on how to get a copy of the book; or call us to request a copy at 1-800-FL-TODAY, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word \u201cTODAY\u201d.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to say a quick word of thanks to those of you who help make programs like today\u2019s program possible.\u00a0 We appreciate all of you who pitch in to help us cover the costs of producing and syndicating this program, keeping our website up and active, and all that we do here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 The ministry is 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