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right?\u00a0 What about nurturing your marriage?\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk about that today.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, I\u2019m going to ask you an embarrassing question; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That\u2019s never stopped you in the past.\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Why would you ask me if it\u2019s okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve been married for four decades; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Four decades.\u00a0 Which was the most romantic decade of your marriage?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The current one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, good.\u00a0 That\u2019s a good answer.\u00a0 Here\u2019s a second question.\u00a0 Which was the least romantic decade of your marriage?\u00a0 Did you have one where it was kind of a little sketchy\u2014a little slow?\u00a0 Decade one:\u00a0 zero to ten years?\u00a0 Decade two\u2014?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know\u2014I\u2019m trying to remember whether it was when we raised teenagers or toddlers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Both had their stress points.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Had some challenges?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m going to go for teenagers.\u00a0 I\u2019m voting on teenagers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re basically saying, \u201cNo kids in the home, it worked out okay\u2014on either end.\u00a0 Add kids to the equation\u2014\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, no, no.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t say that.\u00a0 The first ten years of our lives\u2014we had six kids in ten years\u2014so, not quite all six in the first decade\u2014but close.\u00a0 So, we\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, so, something was working there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 There was romance.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, for those of you who need a little romance, we have an expert with us, here, in the studio.\u00a0 Heidi St. John joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\u00a0 Heidi, welcome to the broadcast.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks for having me.\u00a0 I\u2019m happy to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Heidi has been a homeschool mom for a number of years and the wife of Jay since 1989.\u00a0 They have seven children.\u00a0 She\u2019s written a book about romance.\u00a0 It\u2019s called <em>The Busy Homeschool Mom\u2019s Guide to Romance<\/em>.\u00a0 Here\u2019s what I want you to talk to\u2014just right out of the gate.\u00a0 We\u2019re not just talking to homeschool moms, now.\u00a0 We\u2019re talking to all busy moms.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right, absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Where is the battle occurring when it comes to romance?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 From what I\u2019m seeing, I think the battle is being waged on the parenting home front because you have kids.\u00a0 You go from dating\u2014it\u2019s kind of what you were just saying.\u00a0 You go from being newlyweds\u2014you\u2019re enjoying life\u2014and all of a sudden, you have a baby in your home and, then, they turn into toddlers.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you\u2019re right about the teenage gig because they actually know what\u2019s going on.\u00a0 Jay is always like, \u201cMan, [indecipherable] every time the door clicks.\u201d\u00a0 The kids are like, \u201cHey!\u00a0 We know what you\u2019re doing in there.\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019re on to you; right?\u00a0 And then, even at home, you\u2019re never alone.\u00a0 So, I think it is parenting.\u00a0 Moms tend to sacrifice their marriage on the altar of good parenting, thinking that they need to focus on their kids, while they\u2019re nurturing their children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hang on!\u00a0 Say that again.\u00a0 Moms tend to what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 They tend to sacrifice their marriages on the altar of good parenting.\u00a0 What we\u2019re trying to do is bring it back around and say, \u201cHey, when you\u2019re raising children at home, there has never been a more important time to focus on your marriage.\u00a0 Nurture your marriage through the child-raising years.\u201d\u00a0 In particular, I wrote about\u2014through the homeschooled years\u2014but you\u2019re absolutely right.\u00a0 Any mom, with children at home\u2014we need to focus on our marriages.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 A number of years ago, we used to have an arena event called <em>Rekindling the Romance<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em><em>.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>I\u2019ll never forget a quote that came out of one of the attendees, who came to one of those events.\u00a0 We had anywhere from ten to 15 thousand people attending these things.\u00a0 One woman wrote\u2014she said, \u201cFirst, it was our romance that gave us our children.\u00a0 Then, our children took our romance.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That can happen in a marriage.\u00a0 It can become child-centric.\u00a0 We can allow the relationship to revolve around the children and not invest in our marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you experience this romance erosion, as a couple, after your first child was born?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t think it was so much after the first child\u2014I think, after the second one.\u00a0 My husband was a pastor.\u00a0 He spent 17 years in full-time pastorate.\u00a0 I think it was a mixture of the children coming quickly and, then, responsibilities at the church kind of taking priority.\u00a0 I wrote about it in the book.\u00a0 At one point\u2014I think we only had four children at the time\u2014my husband and I went out for breakfast.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cI miss you.\u00a0 I miss you.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u00a0 What do you mean you miss me?\u00a0 I\u2019m a virtual prisoner in our home!\u00a0 I\u2019m there when you come home from work.\u00a0 I\u2019m crock pot and curriculum from the minute I get up to the minute I go to bed.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cThat\u2019s what I mean.\u00a0 I just miss you.\u00a0 We don\u2019t dream together anymore.\u00a0 We\u2019re not talking about our future.\u00a0 We\u2019re talking about what\u2019s going on at the church.\u00a0 We\u2019re talking about what\u2019s happening with the kids, but we\u2019re not dreaming together anymore.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a tremendous wake-up call for me because I come from a family of divorce.\u00a0 My parents are divorced.\u00a0 Many of my siblings are divorced.\u00a0 My grandparents, on my father\u2019s side, are divorced.\u00a0 I remember hearing similar conversations.\u00a0 It was like this little echo that I heard in my head\u2014of a conversation that my parents had around the dinner table\u2014when I was a kid.\u00a0 Just recognizing that your marriages don\u2019t fall apart overnight\u2014they erode, over time.\u00a0 So, that was a wake-up call for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What Jay did was\u2014he got real.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He got real with you.\u00a0 You write about, in your book, how you think there\u2019s a lot of pretending that occurs, within the Christian community.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, because we want to look good; right?\u00a0 We want to look good.\u00a0 If there\u2019s one place it\u2019s not safe to be real, it\u2019s in the church.\u00a0 It\u2019s in the Christian community because, heaven forbid, we should say, \u201cWe\u2019re struggling in our marriages;\u201d or, \u201cWe\u2019re dealing with pornography, in our home;\u201d or, \u201cWe haven\u2019t had a date in three years;\u201d and, \u201cI don\u2019t know how to talk to my husband anymore,\u201d because, then, somebody could come up to you and say, \u201cWell, aren\u2019t you reading your Bible?\u00a0 Aren\u2019t you involved in a women\u2019s Bible study?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe skip over what\u2019s really happening, and we go straight to the guilt factor.\u00a0 Rather than dig into it, a lot of moms will just gloss over it and will pretend like everything is all right until it\u2019s too late to bridge the gap between the husband and the wife.\u00a0 We\u2019re trying to encourage moms, \u201cGet real!\u00a0 Start talking about it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, so back to the breakfast.\u00a0 Jay says, \u201cI miss you.\u201d\u00a0 You go, \u201cHey, I\u2019ve been here!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI\u2019m physically present.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s right; that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But he, ultimately, got your attention.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 He got my attention in the way that he did it.\u00a0 I love my husband so much because he\u2019s so tender with me.\u00a0 He could see\u2014you know\u2014moms are guilt magnets; right?\u00a0 It generally doesn\u2019t take a whole lot to heap a bunch of guilt on a mom.\u00a0 He just said, \u201cThis isn\u2019t me saying I don\u2019t love you.\u00a0 This is me saying I want to get back what we had.\u00a0 I want to get back to that place where we\u2019re enjoying our time together again.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe sort of\u2014I call it the vortex.\u00a0 In the book, I call it the homeschool vortex; but it could be a parenting vortex.\u00a0 It could be any kind of a vortex.\u00a0 I had, literally, fallen in\u2014to the point I couldn\u2019t see out anymore.\u00a0 For me, my life had become all about making sure dinner was on the table, making sure that the kids were in bed at a decent hour, and homeschooling, and all those things; but I was neglecting our marriage.\u00a0 Frankly, it gave me an opportunity to say to him, \u201cListen, while we\u2019re on the topic, the road goes both ways.\u00a0 I miss you, too.\u00a0 You\u2019re going to work at 8:00 in the morning.\u00a0 You\u2019re coming home for lunch, real quick.\u00a0 Then, you go back to the church.\u00a0 Then, you come home for a quick bite to eat.\u00a0 Then, you go back to the church.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt that point, we made a covenant, between the two of us, that we would be committed to nurturing our marriage\u2014no matter what\u2014so our kids know that, \u201cDad\u2014in my life\u2014your father is the priority relationship.\u00a0 If I have to choose, I\u2019m going to choose him.\u201d\u00a0 They know that, and it sets the tone in our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I remember hearing a speaker, years ago, who was talking about this issue of the priority relationship.\u00a0 He said, \u201cI have told my boys\u201d he said, \u2018If we were out on a lake together\u2019 and he said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Terrible!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2018If the boat flipped over,\u2019 he said, \u2018I want you to know what I would do.\u2019\u00a0 He said, \u2018First thing I\u2019d do is I\u2019d get that boat upright.\u00a0 Then, I\u2019d get your mom; and I would get her in the boat.\u2019\u00a0 He said, \u2018Then, I would dry her off.\u00a0 Then, I\u2019d see if she needed some lemonade.\u2019\u00a0 He said, \u2018I\u2019d make sure she was okay,\u2019 and he said, \u2018Then, I\u2019d look back in the water.\u00a0 If you were still flailing, I\u2019d come in after you.\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cThey were laughing when I was telling them this\u2014it wasn\u2019t\u2014\u201d but he said, \u201cI wanted them to understand, \u2018Where you fit into the....\u2019\u201d\u00a0 Kids aren\u2019t threatened by that.\u00a0 That doesn\u2019t cause them to fear or feel insecure.\u00a0 It causes them to feel more secure when they know, \u201cWe come after Mom and Dad\u2019s relationship.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s absolutely right.\u00a0 All you have to do is look around and see the devastating impact that divorce has on families.\u00a0 I use the analogy all the time because my husband and I fly frequently.\u00a0 They\u2019ll say, \u201cIf the oxygen mask falls from the ceiling, secure it on your face before assisting a younger child.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s because if something happens to the grown-up, the child\u2019s a goner anyway.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell moms, \u201cIt\u2019s the same thing!\u00a0 Breathe oxygen into your marriage before you go to nurture your children because, if your marriage fails, your children are going to suffer by default!\u00a0 They are going to suffer by default.\u201d\u00a0 I think, if moms can get a vision for what God\u2019s doing in their marriage\u2014because it\u2019s so much bigger than what we see right now\u2014it is generations, ahead, that we\u2019re looking at\u2014that makes a difference.\u00a0 That makes an impact.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s talk about how you nurture and you bring that oxygen that nourishes the marriage relationship.\u00a0 For Barbara and me\u2014this is back to your question, Bob, of, \u201cHow did we maintain a sense of romance, in the midst of raising six kids?\u201d\u00a0 We had a standing date night on Sunday night.\u00a0 We didn\u2019t hit five out of five or four out of four in a month, but we\u2019d hit three out of four or four out of five or three out of five.\u00a0 If we didn\u2019t go\u2014if we missed say, three in a row, our kids would come to us and say, \u201cHey, you and Mom\u2014you need to go on a date.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The waitress at the restaurant started worrying about you, too, when you weren\u2019t showing up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, we went to the same\u2014we were in a horrible rut.\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 This waitress was from Bosnia.\u00a0 If we didn\u2019t show for a few weeks, she\u2019d go, \u201cI was concerned about you guys.\u00a0 What happened to you?\u201d\u00a0 So, for you and Jay, how did you begin to build into your marriage relationship?\u00a0 I\u2019m not talking about both of you.\u00a0 I\u2019m talking about, \u201cWhat did you do, as a mom?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Boy, I tell you, I redirected my focus.\u00a0 That was the first thing I did.\u00a0 I just started making Jay a priority.\u00a0 We\u2019ve had these conversations about, \u201cI\u2019m too tired when I go to bed at night.\u201d\u00a0 He wants to be intimate; and I\u2019m just like, \u201cListen, if one more person asks me for one more thing, I\u2019m going to come unhinged!\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s what I told him, \u201cYou want to see me lose it?\u00a0 Just ask me for one more thing tonight, and that\u2019s what\u2019s going to happen!\u201d\u00a0 He\u2019d be like, \u201cAlrighty, then!\u00a0 I wonder what\u2019s on television.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There are a few men, right now, nodding their heads.\u00a0 \u201cI\u2019ve heard that!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cBeen there; heard that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI\u2019ve heard that lecture before.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 There\u2019s a few moms going, \u201cPreach it, sister!\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the reality, when you\u2019re home with little people, all day long.\u00a0 They\u2019re tugging at you, and they want something every five minutes.\u00a0 When the kids go to bed, you\u2019re thinking, \u201cHallelujah!\u00a0 I\u2019m going to try to recharge my batteries.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, I want to remind you the question was, \u201cHow did you nourish your relationship?\u201d because it wasn\u2019t saying, \u201cNo,\u201d to him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\u00a0 What happened was\u2014I had to redirect my thinking.\u00a0 This was the pattern of thinking that I was in\u2014 so, in the course of the day, when I found myself getting tired, and I knew, \u201cJay\u2019s going to come home; and I\u2019m not going to have anything left for him\u2014maybe, not even a conversation,\u201d \u2014 that\u2019s when I would start to go, \u201cIt\u2019s time for the kids to have a nap.\u00a0 Maybe, I need to be done with homeschooling for the day.\u00a0 Maybe, we need to take a walk.\u201d\u00a0 I was putting a little bit more energy into making sure I wasn\u2019t absolutely flat-out spent when he came home.\u00a0 That was the first thing that I did\u2014was just start paying more attention to what I was doing, as a wife, throughout my day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 But Heidi, there are moms who are saying, \u201cMy kids won\u2019t let me do that.\u00a0 They are always there, always asking, always demanding.\u00a0 If I neglect them, what kind of mom will I be?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow.\u00a0 It\u2019s not neglect, though; see?\u00a0 I think that\u2019s where we\u2019re missing it.\u00a0 It\u2019s not neglect.\u00a0 It\u2019s training the children.\u00a0 For me\u2014this is funny\u2014my mom\u2014there were seven children in my family.\u00a0 Mom used to put the kids to bed at 7:00.\u00a0 I remember asking her, \u201cWhy are the kids going to bed at 7:00?\u00a0 They\u2019re not even tired.\u201d\u00a0 She\u2019d be like, \u201cI don\u2019t care if the kids aren\u2019t tired.\u00a0 I\u2019m tired of the kids.\u201d\u00a0 Really, that\u2019s kind of what sort of\u2014I realized, \u201cI\u2019ve got to have something left for my husband, at the end of the day.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe started having a regular date night.\u00a0 I started making time, throughout the day, to be thinking about him.\u00a0 I started calling him at work to say, \u201cHow are you doing?\u00a0 I\u2019m excited we\u2019re going to go out tonight.\u201d\u00a0 The first couple of times that we tried to go out\u2014because he was a pastor, we didn\u2019t really have a babysitting budget\u2014I was afraid to leave the kids.\u00a0 I think Savannah, our oldest, would have been maybe 11, at the time.\u00a0 <br><br>Jay was like, \u201cI really want to go out.\u201d\u00a0 Well, we\u2019re like, \u201cWhere are we going to go?\u201d\u00a0 We started renting movies and sitting the kids down, in front of movies.\u00a0 I would make dinner upstairs.\u00a0 It was time for us to reconnect\u2014to say, \u201cHey!\u00a0 How was your day?\u201d \u2014and really mean it, instead of glossing over what was happening.\u00a0 Our kids got used to seeing the two of us take time for each other.\u00a0 That\u2019s been huge for us, over the years.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you\u2019re right.\u00a0 It\u2019s not four out of four or five out of five, but it\u2019s definitely keeping your finger on the pulse of your relationship.\u00a0 I think, for us, that was crucial because I hadn\u2019t been doing that.\u00a0 I hadn\u2019t been nurturing that and listening.\u00a0 We do it with our kids by default; but we don\u2019t do it, necessarily, by default, with our marriages.\u00a0 I was a lot more in tune with how Jay was doing, and he was a lot more in tune with how I was doing.\u00a0 It was a conversation that we began to have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 One of the things that Barbara did\u2014just back to what you were talking about\u2014about getting some space and some personal time because every mom needs that.\u00a0 She would teach the kids how to entertain themselves by reading a book, by having a Quiet Time\u2014just a time to not be entertained with some kind of video, some kind of something\u2014just a time for the soul to be able to think and to not constantly be stimulated.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think a lot of parents today almost kind of wince at hearing us talk about this\u2014feeling like they\u2019re under compulsion and under guilt to have to do this with their kids.\u00a0 I think this generation of young families is into all kinds of comparison with their friends, and neighbors, and all.\u00a0 It\u2019s a trap.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is a trap.\u00a0 That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It really is a trap.\u00a0 You have to find a way to invest in your life and your marriage.\u00a0 I\u2019m not talking about being neglectful of your children, either.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it\u2019s creating habits.\u00a0 They\u2019re watching you; right?\u00a0 Whatever bad habits they see me develop with Jay, they\u2019re likely to take those into their own marriages.\u00a0 I love what Barbara was doing with your kids.\u00a0 We\u2019ve done kind of a similar thing in our house, especially when the older ones were younger.\u00a0 We did something called Quiet Time.\u00a0 They didn\u2019t need a nap anymore, but I needed a break.\u00a0 So, from 2:00 to 3:00, every day, everybody had\u2014it was Quiet Time.\u00a0 It was quiet in our house.\u00a0 The toddler would be sleeping, the baby would be taking her nap, but the older kids went to separate places in the house because, if they were together, then, it wasn\u2019t quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cYou can take a nap if you want to.\u00a0 You can write a letter.\u00a0 You could read a book.\u00a0 Here\u2019s a stack of stuff from the library, but I don\u2019t want to see or hear from you until 3:00.\u201d\u00a0 It was wonderful.\u00a0 We did that for probably four years, straight.\u00a0 It was a wonderful time because I had a chance to kind of recharge, and the kids learned to be quiet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 What did you do from 2:00 to 3:00, while the kids were in their rooms?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 I love to write.\u00a0 For me, I did a lot of journaling.\u00a0 In fact, I just released a journal for moms.\u00a0 I love journaling.\u00a0 For me, it was a way to just reflect and to pour out my heart, onto paper.\u00a0 I did a lot of writing.\u00a0 I\u2019ll be honest\u2014sometimes, I would take a nap.\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Sometimes, I needed to take a shower.\u00a0 That was my time for me.\u00a0 It really\u2014it was pivotal for me, at home, in learning how to manage my days.\u00a0 I think the key is just finding out how to manage your days and listen to the Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI love what you said about not comparing yourself to other people because I might look at Susie Homemaker, down the street, who seems like she\u2019s got it all together, all the time, and her kitchen\u2019s never dirty, and her kids never cry, and no one ever whines or back-talks.\u00a0 But I\u2019m not living with her.\u00a0 I\u2019m just seeing a perceived image of what her life is like.\u00a0 Then, I take that on myself, instead of going to the Lord, and to my husband, and saying, \u201cHey, what does it look like for our family?\u00a0 What do we need to do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, \u201cWhat do we need?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me ask you about that time with the Lord because, in the midst of all you have going on, where do you carve that out and how do you make that happen?\u00a0 How much of a priority is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, I love that question!\u00a0 Like I told you, I\u2019m a guilt magnet.\u00a0 I think a lot of moms are.\u00a0 Part of it is comparison.\u00a0 I used to have a lot of Quiet Time.\u00a0 Then, the kids came along; and I couldn\u2019t do it anymore.\u00a0 I remember one morning\u2014the Northwest is gorgeous in the spring\u2014and I had gone out at 4:00 in the morning because I couldn\u2019t sleep.\u00a0 I had just so much on my mind.\u00a0 I felt so far from the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI watched the sun come up, over Mount St. Helens.\u00a0 I thought the Lord was saying, \u201cI\u2019ve been here.\u00a0 You\u2019re saying that you can\u2019t have Quiet Time with me anymore because of your kids, but I love your kids!\u00a0 I gave your kids to you.\u00a0 Enjoy Me, with your kids.\u201d\u00a0 The Lord was saying, \u201cShow your kids what it looks like to spend time with Me.\u00a0 I\u2019m not distracted by your seven-year-old playing Legos on the floor.\u00a0 I don\u2019t care if the baby\u2019s crying.\u00a0 I\u2019m good with it\u2014so show your kids what it means to spend time with Me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I started doing was going back to what I had done when they were little, or even before I had kids, and just reading a passage, every day, with the kids.\u00a0 I gave the older kids just a steno pad.\u00a0 I gave the younger ones something to color on.\u00a0 I said, \u201cHey, Mom\u2019s going to read, from a children\u2019s Bible.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s what we did.\u00a0 We started in Genesis.\u00a0 We went all the way through it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m telling you, God spoke to my kids.\u00a0 I felt like, for me, at that point, it was the Lord saying, \u201cThere\u2019s no such thing as Quiet Time in your life right now.\u00a0 I get it, and I\u2019m okay with it.\u00a0 Let\u2019s look at a new kind of Quiet Time.\u00a0 Let\u2019s do it with your kids.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s what we did, and it became, and still is\u2014that\u2019s what we do, almost every day, with our kids\u2014is just sit down, even for just 10 minutes, and we do it together\u2014rather than me trying to carve out time alone because you can\u2019t always do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It seems like an oxymoron to say you\u2019re going to have a Quiet Time with your kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right, yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But I like the picture of that because of what you\u2019ve just described\u2014of God giving us children.\u00a0 There\u2019s a season.\u00a0 \u201cOkay, this season is different.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s noisy!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is noisy.\u00a0 It\u2019s full of activity.\u00a0 Can you see God, in the midst of the season, and can you make sure, in the midst of that, that you not only don\u2019t miss God, but you don\u2019t miss your spouse.\u00a0 As I was preparing for our interview and our time together, I thought of Romans, Chapter 12, verse 9.\u00a0 It says, very simply, \u201cLet love be genuine.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe talked about Christians can be pretenders.\u00a0 They can pretend everything\u2019s okay.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are some listeners, right now, who are pretending their marriage is not only okay, it\u2019s great!\u00a0 They know it\u2019s in the tank\u2014they are in trouble.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe didn\u2019t get a chance to talk about this, Heidi; but one of the things that Barbara and I built into our marriage, all the way through raising our kids, was a getaway.\u00a0 We would have a two- or three-night getaway from the kids, a couple of times a year.\u00a0 I\u2019m convinced\u2014for these young couples, today, raising families\u2014one of the best things they can do for their kids is to get away from their kids and go to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Heidi:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hang on.\u00a0 Barbara did not feel like that was a great idea, with kids at home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She didn\u2019t, initially.\u00a0 She didn\u2019t, initially; but I\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 At the end of the second day, she was starting to decompress.\u00a0 She was starting to feel the aliveness of a real relationship with me\u2014back to, \u201cLet love be genuine.\u201d\u00a0 She didn\u2019t have to be convinced of needing to get away after we had done two or three of these things because she experienced the benefits of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you\u2019re talking about either a personal retreat\u2014but you started to mention the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>\u2014the weekend that we put together, for couples.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t know of a better weekend, for couples, to get away because it\u2019s biblical, it\u2019s practical, and you\u2019re going to come out on Sunday afternoon\u2014when it\u2019s done, after lunch\u2014you\u2019re going to come out with a lexicon\u2014like a dictionary of common words that you both understand what they mean about how to build your marriage, how to make your family go the distance, and how to be raising your kids, off the same song sheet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think a lot of families today are struggling because the husband has a song sheet and his wife has a different one.\u00a0 It\u2019s just symbolic of their marriage.\u00a0 They\u2019re not together.\u00a0 They\u2019re not singing off the same song sheet.\u00a0 So, how, in the world, could you have harmony?\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We have a couple dozen of the <em>Weekends to Remember<\/em> happening this month, in cities, all across the country.\u00a0 If folks have never been, they really need to get away to one of these fun, romantic weekends away, where, together, you get coached, and you get refreshed.\u00a0 You get a great weekend experience, as husband and wife, at a FamilyLife <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, my son and his new wife\u2014they\u2019ve been married for about four or five months now\u2014they\u2019re going to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>,this month, in Colorado.\u00a0 If you\u2019d like to find out if there\u2019s a <em>Weekend to Remember <\/em>happening in a city near where you live, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information.\u00a0 Click on the link, there, for the <em>Weekend to Remember.<\/em>\u00a0 Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Click the link for the <em>Weekend to Remember.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ll also find information about Heidi St. John\u2019s book, <em>The Busy Homeschool Mom\u2019s Guide to Romance: Nurturing Your Marriage Through the Homeschool Years.<\/em>\u00a0 We have copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center.\u00a0 Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about how to order a copy of the book, or call to request it at 1-800-FL-TODAY: 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s interesting that we\u2019re talking about busyness and being overwhelmed.\u00a0 Of course, this is the time of year when that starts to kick in for us, as families, as we head toward Thanksgiving, and then toward Christmas.\u00a0 Life just gets busy, and relationships can take a back seat to busyness in the midst of this season.\u00a0 That\u2019s one of the reasons why we wanted to address this subject, as we head into this season of the year, so that we can keep our focus on what ought to be the most important things we\u2019re doing throughout our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what we\u2019re here for, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 We want to provide practical, biblical help for marriages and families so that every home can become a godly home.\u00a0 That\u2019s our goal, and that\u2019s the mission that we\u2019re committed to.\u00a0 We want to thank those of you who share that mission with us and who help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership.\u00a0 We\u2019re grateful for your donations.\u00a0 That\u2019s what keeps us on the air, keeps our website up and running, keeps all that we\u2019re doing, here, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, going on.\u00a0 Your support makes it all possible.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, if you can make a donation to support us, we\u2019d like to send you a couple of CDs\u2014a conversation we had with author and speaker, Shaunti Feldhahn, who wrote a book called <em>For Women Only<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s a book about what men think, what\u2019s important to men, understanding what\u2019s going on in the mind and the heart of your husband.\u00a0 If you\u2019d like to receive the CDs, go online and make a donation at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d.\u00a0 Fill out the online donation form.\u00a0 We\u2019ll send you the CDs as our thank-you gift; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation over the phone.\u00a0 Again, we\u2019re happy to send you the CDs.\u00a0 Just request them when you call.\u00a0 Ask for the CDs, <em>For Women Only;<\/em> and we\u2019ll get them out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd be sure to join us back here again tomorrow.\u00a0 Heidi St. John is going to be here again.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to continue to talk about how you make your marriage relationship a priority, with everything else you have going on, around the house.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that tomorrow.\u00a0 Hope you can be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back again tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2012 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302621","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302621"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302621"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302621"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302621"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302621"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302621"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302621"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}