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life.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2012-07-06.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ed Bethune and his wife Lana were sailing in the Atlantic, off the coast of New England, when a storm blew up\u2014a powerful storm\u2014one that almost sank their ship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Finally, after 36 hours, we realized the boat was beginning to show signs of real trouble.\u00a0 We were taking on water, the engine wasn\u2019t working, sails were blown out, and the water was getting into the boat.\u00a0 For the first time, I used my single sideband radio to call the Coast Guard to just see if there was any possibility of a rescue.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, July 6<sup>th<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019ll hear the story, today, of the storm at sea and the dramatic rescue for Ed and Lana Bethune.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 There\u2019s an old expression\u2014people talk about foxhole religion.\u00a0 You know what I mean?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I do.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>The guy, who is in the foxhole, and the bullets are whizzing past him, and he thinks, \u201cOkay, God, if You get me out of here, I\u2019ll do anything.\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ve got a guest today who\u2019s been in a couple of foxholes, and got out of the foxholes, and then got into the FBI.\u00a0 He\u2019s had some of that going on; but it took more than the enemies, foreign and domestic, to cause him to really reconsider what his life was all about.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0 Ed and Lana Bethune join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Lana, Ed, welcome back.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks, Dennis.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ed, as Bob mentioned, is a former Marine.\u00a0 I guess once you\u2019re a\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He\u2019s a Marine\u2014<em>Semper Fi<\/em>; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014You are a Marine until the end.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is no such thing as a former.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was a prosecuting attorney, a special agent for the FBI.\u00a0 In fact, you worked in the FBI for four years; and you were after the Mafia.\u00a0 Is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I worked a lot of Mafia stuff, and bank robberies, hijackings\u2014in the metropolitan areas of Chicago and New York.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ever a time in the FBI when you thought, \u201cI don\u2019t know if I\u2019m getting out of this one?\u201d\u00a0 Did you ever have a moment like that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 There were a couple moments there.\u00a0 Actually, I had more tense moments in my battles against the old guard Democrats.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s see\u2014Mafia or the Democrats\u2014who are more dangerous?\u00a0 Ed Bethune has just declared\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, what he\u2019s hinting at is that he has served three times in Congress.\u00a0 He and Lana have been married for 53 years\u2014have two children, and eight granddaughters.\u00a0 He\u2019s written a book called <em>Jackhammered:<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>A Life of Adventure<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There\u2019s a picture on the front of this book that is\u2014well, it looks like the boat is in trouble, basically, because the storms are high and the sailboat, that\u2019s on the cover, doesn\u2019t look like it\u2019s going to make it out of those storms.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 You tell the story here of this 31-foot sailboat.\u00a0 You and Lana decided you guys were going to cross the Atlantic.\u00a0 You were going to leave Norfolk\u2014is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and head north because that\u2019s the shortest route.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes; northeasterly.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 When you set sail, was it blue skies and all?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Gorgeous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, yes, gorgeous weather.\u00a0 At that time of the year, June 6<sup>th<\/sup>, all of the data, going back 600 years, indicates that there are fewer gales and rough weather at that particular time than any other.\u00a0 So, we chose that time purposely; but there are unseasonable storms that crop up from time to time.\u00a0 After four days out at sea, we encountered\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now wait\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014one.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014before you get to that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014just a little of the logistics there.\u00a0 You would make about how many miles a day in a sailboat?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 A good day would be 100.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There\u2019s a stream in the ocean.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s called the Gulf Stream.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 All the way up the East Coast toward New England?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it\u2019s like a river in the sea.\u00a0 It\u2019s a current, really, that comes down by South America, swoops around into the Gulf of Mexico, back up through the Florida Straits, then squeezes between Florida and the Bahamas, picks up speed, and then runs north off the coast of Hatteras, northeasterly all the way to Europe.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, you could pick up some speed by getting in that Gulf Stream.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s the good news.\u00a0 The bad news is that if you\u2019re riding a current that is going one way and encounter a wind that is going the other; you will get extremely high seas.\u00a0 They\u2019ll make up into incredible heights because of the opposing forces that are meeting.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When did you first realize, in your journey, that there are rough seas ahead?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 On the fourth day out, the winds began to pipe up; and we realized that something was brewing.\u00a0 We would listen to the radio reports and understand that there was a storm brewing off the coast of Nova Scotia, that was probably going to come down in our path; but we assumed that it would be short.\u00a0 It was that time of year when those storms typically don\u2019t last that long; but this one was an incredible storm, that lasted several days.\u00a0 So, the seas began to build up and got so bad\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, now, wait a second.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me interrupt you there\u2014had the movie, <em>The Perfect Storm<\/em>, been out yet, Ed?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, it hadn\u2019t been out.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, there wasn\u2019t any chance you had seen that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014before you went out there.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank heaven.\u00a0 I would not have gone.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I have to wonder with what you\u2019re describing\u2014it sounds like it was those kinds of conditions\u2014that we saw in that movie\u2014that you were heading into.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was worse.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, the real\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Really?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Worse?!\u00a0 Worse?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I don\u2019t think it was worse, but it was bad.\u00a0 The waves, according to the Coast Guard, were 25 to 30 feet.\u00a0 In a 31-foot boat, you can just imagine that when finally you were forced to heave to\u2014which is to arrange your sails in such a way that the boat will stay in essentially the same position\u2014then, you just shut everything down and go below.\u00a0 So, that\u2019s what we did.\u00a0 We closed the boat up and went down below.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tImagine going through two nights at a time when it was pitch dark.\u00a0 You\u2019re down below in a 31-foot boat, and the boat would be lifted skyward on a 25- to 30-foot wave.\u00a0 When it got to the top, it would hang on the crest of the wave and then fall off into the trough of the wave, land on its side, shutter and shake, and make the most terrible noise\u2014equivalent to the noise of a jackhammer, by the way.\u00a0 This went on for 36 hours.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You called it, in the book, an unholy rhythm.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I thought that was a really interesting description.\u00a0 It just continued to batter you.\u00a0 Where were you guys, Lana, in the boat?\u00a0 I mean, obviously, you couldn\u2019t be outside in the\u2014what do you call it\u2014the cockpit?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Cockpit.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You couldn\u2019t be out there because you\u2019d be washed overboard.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, where were you in the boat, physically?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 We were laying on the sole of the boat, which is the floor of the boat, the lowest point on a sailboat.\u00a0 We were actually lying foot-to-foot with our heads opposite because there\u2019s not a lot of space there.\u00a0 It\u2019s only about three and a half feet wide in the middle, in the depth there.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s where we were because every time I would get up or Ed would get up, we would be thrown against the side of the boat\u2014against the cabinetry, or the seating, or whatever, or the table.\u00a0 So, we really could not get up.\u00a0 It was too dangerous.\u00a0 In fact, I had been thrown against the cabinets a couple of times, trying to get our passports out of a drawer where we had them\u2014just in case we had to abandon ship.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had to be thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t know that we\u2019ll make it.\u00a0 This may be it for us.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, 36 hours of this continual thrashing about.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, to be honest, we had already come to the decision that we were not going to make it.\u00a0 So, when we were in that position on the floor, we had inflated our life jackets.\u00a0 We had our Bible, and we would read to each other from the Bible.\u00a0 Every once in a while, we\u2019d come to a particular point; and we\u2019d both kind of raise up, hug each other, and then get back into position and lie back down.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014which is not easy to do if you have two inflated life jackets.\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was not a real close hug.\u00a0 It was\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 In total darkness, by the way.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But you are talking about the most intimate things of life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Look, the most interesting thing about that moment is that we didn\u2019t talk about sports, or business, or the TV shows, or the movies, and all of the things that people talk about when they think they\u2019re going to live forever.\u00a0 We talked about our life together.\u00a0 We talked about our children.\u00a0 We talked about our hope that there would one day be grandchildren, though we might not see them; and we talked about our faith.\u00a0 Those are the things that matter.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was the moment in my life when this incessant drive and strong will that I had struggled with my entire life\u2014I came to the point where I realized that I needed to surrender.\u00a0 I needed to surrender my will to God\u2019s will because, after all, my life\u2014our lives were in His hands now.\u00a0 That was so clear to us.\u00a0 They always have been; but it was plain to us, at that moment, that it was the end of the line for us.\u00a0 So, we knew and I knew\u2014Lana was not having as much trouble, of course, because she was already a surrendered Christian.\u00a0 I was the one that was anxious, and wringing my hands, and all kinds of fits about what was taking place within my life.\u00a0 She was more at peace with the thing than I was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, and you\u2019ve already shared with us this week that you had come to a point where the Christian message made sense to you.\u00a0 You had said, \u201cYes, that makes sense, and I agree with that.\u00a0 I affirm that;\u201d but what\u2019s going on in the belly of this boat is different than that intellectual processing of, \u201cDoes all of this make sense?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, absolutely, yes.\u00a0 You know, I had gone through all the stages of trying to read about all the religions of the world, to read about the apologetics, and all the great theological studies that have been made, and trying to use my lawyer logic and all of that to figure this thing out and to prove it.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I was trying to do; and as I said, I believe it was just an excuse that I was using, so that I wouldn\u2019t have to give up my will.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do you remember what you prayed?\u00a0 What you said to God?\u00a0 I don\u2019t recall if you wrote it in the book or not.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t think there were any particular words that I said, Dennis.\u00a0 We were in constant prayer, as you might imagine.\u00a0 It was just a moment of, \u201cGod, forgive me for all I\u2019ve done and for the many times that I have passed up the opportunity to do what I\u2019m doing now\u201d\u2014that sort of communication.\u00a0 Of course, I realized, too, that once you reach that point\u2014I think it is a critical, and important, and necessary point to reach, where you actually give up your will.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, does that mean that we\u2019re going to be sanctified and perfect from that moment on?\u00a0 My belief is that we all, unfortunately, are going to backslide because we are sinners.\u00a0 So, the process, after surrender, of sanctification is a process.\u00a0 It\u2019s an ongoing process.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is more surrender that happens\u2014isn\u2019t there?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014along the way.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, you\u2019ve got to get back to that moment where you say, \u201cOkay, I know what I\u2019m doing.\u00a0 I\u2019m back substituting my will for Yours.\u201d\u00a0 We all do that, and that\u2019s what gets us in trouble.\u00a0 The nice thing about having surrendered is that it clarifies.\u00a0 You know how to get out of the trap when you start that downward spiral again.\u00a0 You know that what you need to do is to let go of your will, substitute God\u2019s will, everything, then, clears up.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Lana, as you were laying in the belly of that boat, listening to your husband verbalize some of these things that you\u2019d never heard him verbalize before, and wondering if these were your last hours together\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, a lot of people have asked me if I\u2019ve had bad dreams or thought about that time.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting because, at that point in my life, I think there is a point beyond fear.\u00a0 I experienced that.\u00a0 I was not afraid at that time.\u00a0 Consequently, I have not had nightmares or bad dreams.\u00a0 I had relinquished myself, and I really knew that I was going to die.\u00a0 Then, of course, Ed was doing the same thing.\u00a0 To have that experience together is something truly special.\u00a0 I would not have missed it for the world\u2014believe it or not!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 God works in mysterious ways.\u00a0 Now, the important point is that God put us in that place.\u00a0 He saved a wretch like me through many, many incidents, long before that particular time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Through many dangers, toils, and snares.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, very much so.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Lana:<\/strong>\u00a0 Love that song.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have to conclude that, \u201cThat\u2019s His plan for me.\u201d\u00a0 He loves us and has a wonderful plan for our life.\u00a0 The hard part is knowing what it is; and I have to believe, looking back now, as I\u2019m in my senior years, that I went through all of this\u2014and Lana and I together went through all of this\u2014to get to this point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPerhaps, that\u2019s why I didn\u2019t intend to write a memoir\u2014I only intended to write about the sailing story\u2014but wound up going back and writing about my childhood and this struggle between the hardheads and the soft-hearts, which is just a nice way of saying, \u201cA struggle between putting yourself in the center and putting God in the center of your life.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ed, I have to ask you about the point in time when the waves started crashing a little less regularly, when you started looking at each other and going, \u201cWe may be okay here.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, that didn\u2019t happen.\u00a0 As a matter of fact, they just kept getting worse and worse.\u00a0 Finally, after 36 hours, we realized the boat was beginning to show signs of real trouble.\u00a0 We were taking on water, the engine wasn\u2019t working, sails were blown out.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There were stress fractures in the boat.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, stress fractures down below.\u00a0 That\u2019s where the water was getting into the boat.\u00a0 We knew that we were in serious trouble.\u00a0 For the first time, I used my single sideband radio to call the Coast Guard to just see if there\u2019s any possibility of a rescue.\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were at the outer margin of a rescue for Coast Guard helicopters because, as I said, we were 210 miles from the nearest point of land; but I called.\u00a0 My first question wasn\u2019t about rescue.\u00a0 My first question was about the weather, \u201cWhat\u2019s the prediction?\u201d\u00a0 They came back to me about a half hour later and said, \u201cThe prediction is that it\u2019s going to last three more days, and it\u2019s going to get worse.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s when I said, \u201cWell, we need to talk, if we can, about some way to get us off of this boat, if there is a way.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat, then, triggered an absolutely marvelous response by the Coast Guard, which I write about in the book\u2014about how they put together a rescue plan, which was very marginal because we were right at the outer limit of what they could do with the helicopter.\u00a0 They put the plan together.\u00a0 As it turned out, we were rescued from the boat.\u00a0 We had to get off the boat into the water.\u00a0 Both of us had to abandon our boat and get into our little life raft because they couldn\u2019t get near a sailboat in seas like that because the mast might get into the helicopter and cause it to crash.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnyway, by and by, it worked out.\u00a0 The helicopter came to the scene.\u00a0 I always tell people\u2014when we tell this story, orally\u2014that most of us, certainly wretches like me, have had an angel on our shoulder all through our life to protect us; but you never get to see that angel.\u00a0 Well, we got a glimpse of our angel.\u00a0 Guess what?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He has rotors instead of wings.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Our angel is orange and white; and it goes, \u201cWhoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh,\u201d like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I thought it was interesting that the young man\u2014who came out of that helicopter, and who dove into the water to help rescue you, and fought the currents and the waves\u2014when he got into the helicopter with you and they finally finished the rescue, you said he was lying on the floor of the helicopter for 30 minutes, almost without moving\u2014sheer exhaustion!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Totally exhausted\u2014Rod Parker\u2014the young man.\u00a0 Our son, Sam, was in the Navy\u2014or is in the Navy still\u2014and he was a rescue swimmer in the Navy.\u00a0 When this young man finally got Lana up into the helicopter, he came back for me.\u00a0 He had a terrible time getting to me because the waves were working against him, and God intervened again.\u00a0 This young man kind of surfed down this wave, and there he was right by me.\u00a0 If it had not been for that, I don\u2019t think he could have gotten to me.\u00a0 He would have had to leave me out there.\u00a0 When he got to me, the first thing I said to him was\u2014I said, \u201cLook, my son is a rescue swimmer in the U.S. Navy, and I love both of you!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t until you got back on land that they realized that you worked in Congress and that they\u2019d saved a member of Congress at that point.\u00a0 I thought that was a great testimony to the U.S. Coast Guard that they were not a respecter of persons at that point.\u00a0 They came to rescue you\u2014not knowing who you were, what you did, what you were about.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>When I told Bob about your book\u2014and I told Bob\u2014I said, \u201cYou know, Ed and Lana really take us to the core issue in all of our hearts\u2014the issue of our wills, and who will we surrender to\u2014what will we surrender to.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m just reminded of Jesus\u2019 words.\u00a0 Jesus said to him, \u201cI am the way, the truth, and the life.\u00a0 No one comes to the Father except through Me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now, that\u2019s either the truth; or it\u2019s a lie.\u00a0 If He be who He is, He demands the ultimate allegiance.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 It changes everything, and the\u2014I guess, if my book stands for a proposition, it would be that it is one thing to accept that intellectually with your head, but you have to accept it with your heart.\u00a0 That\u2019s faith.\u00a0 That\u2019s when real surrender comes, not before.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The question for our listeners today, \u201cWhere are you?\u201d\u00a0 Ed said he came from a family of hardheads and soft-hearts.\u00a0 Which camp are you in?\u00a0 Have you come to that point of surrender to Jesus Christ?\u00a0 My challenge to you, if you haven\u2019t\u2014let Ed Bethune\u2019s story and testimony of his conclusion of what he\u2019s going to do with Jesus Christ be an example of what you need to do before this day is over.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 On our website at FamilyLifeToday.com, there is a link that says, \u201cTwo Ways to Live\u201d.\u00a0 If you click on that link, it will lay out for you the choice that\u2019s in front of every one of us, \u201cWhich way are we going to choose to live?\u00a0 Are we going to choose to live for self?\u00a0 Are we going to choose to live for something more significant than that?\u00a0 That\u2019s really the dilemma that all of us are facing.\u00a0 If it\u2019s not for self, what should it be for?\u00a0 What should we be living for?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com, click that link, \u201cTwo Ways to Live\u201d; or if you\u2019d like more information on what it means to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ, there\u2019s a book we\u2019d be happy to send you called <em>Pursuing God: A Seeker\u2019s Guide<\/em>.\u00a0 We\u2019ll send it out at no cost.\u00a0 All you have to do is call and request it.\u00a0 1-800-FL-TODAY is the toll-free number, 1-800-358-6329; 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\u00a0 Ask for a copy of the book, <em>Pursuing God<\/em>, when you get in touch with us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou might also want information about Ed Bethune\u2019s book, <em>Jackhammered<\/em>.\u00a0 You\u2019ve heard part of Ed and Lana\u2019s story today; but the book tells a lot more, not only about their time at sea, but Ed\u2019s time in Congress, his time in the Marines, and in the FBI.\u00a0 It\u2019s a powerful story; and we\u2019ve got copies of the book, <em>Jackhammered<\/em>, in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center.\u00a0 Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to order a copy; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and ask for the book, <em>Jackhammered<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to say a special word of thanks today to those of you who have made today\u2019s program possible.\u00a0 Like most of the programs you hear on this station, <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>is listener-supported.\u00a0 It\u2019s folks like you who listen to the program regularly and have found it to be spiritually profitable in your life.\u00a0 You folks make this program possible when you make an online donation at FamilyLifeToday.com or when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation.\u00a0 We could not keep doing what we do without your support, and we do appreciate you.\u00a0 Again, our website to make a donation is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 You can also call 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we hope you have a great weekend.\u00a0 Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend; and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to meet a couple who got to a point in their marriage where they decided, \u201cThis just isn\u2019t going to work.\u201d\u00a0 Marriage was over for them; and then, we\u2019ll hear the story of the remarkable transformation that took place in their lives.\u00a0 We\u2019ll meet Scott and Sherry Jennings next week.\u00a0 Hope you can join us for that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you on Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife 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