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Oregon!","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2012-07-03.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How can you make a difference for Christ in your community?\u00a0 Kevin Palau says you can start by looking at your neighborhood public school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Churches are looking for ways\u2014I think all of us that love Christ\u2014are looking for ways to engage in the community.\u00a0 How do we make a difference?\u00a0 It\u2019s not enough anymore to simply invite people to church, which we should be doing.\u00a0 I hope all of us care enough, and love our friends and neighbors, and are sharing the Gospel, and inviting them to places where they can hear the Good News.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut that\u2019s not quite enough anymore.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to get out of the pews and into the community to really live on mission with Jesus Christ.\u00a0 Partnering with public schools is a great way to do it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, July 3<sup>rd<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0\u00a0 Kevin Palau joins us today to talk about how churches can both proclaim the Gospel and demonstrate the Gospel in your local community.\u00a0\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Dennis?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Bob, you know, all these years you and I have worked together, I don\u2019t know if I can answer this question for you.\u00a0 Did you ever go fishing, as a boy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I did go fishing, as a boy, as a Cub Scout.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I went fishing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What did you go after?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, I have no idea.\u00a0 I went after fish that were in the pond, with a hook, and something on the end of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, if I was to ask you what the best stringer of fish\u2014what it weighed, in terms of pounds\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I would say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI have no idea,\u201d is what you\u2019d say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014I\u2019d say, \u201cWhat\u2019s a stringer?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You don\u2019t remember whether it was catfish, bass, perch, or trout?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it was perch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t trout in a pond.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, I think it was perch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, our guest on our broadcast today knows what kind of fish that I caught because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was there as an eyewitness; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, he wasn\u2019t an eyewitness; but I had lunch with him, not long after I got back from being out in a boat.\u00a0 But I love to ask fishermen\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Out on a boat, where?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m not telling you.\u00a0 That\u2019s part of the riddle.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I give fishermen this riddle.\u00a0 I say, \u201cI went fishing in the lower 48.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You and a friend; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And a friend.\u00a0 We caught five fish, and those five fish weighed over 800 pounds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh my goodness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I ask a fisherman buddy, \u201cWhat kind of fish did I catch?\u201d\u00a0 The standard answer is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Whale!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 That\u2019s what I would think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 [Laughing]\u00a0\u00a0 Bob, whales do not go in fresh water.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, I didn\u2019t realize that.\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 Salt\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There may be some; but first of all, you wouldn\u2019t have a stringer-full anyway.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Baby whales; I don\u2019t know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019d sink your boat.\u00a0 We turned all these back anyway.\u00a0 I ask people\u2014they never know what I caught, but our guest on the broadcast today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He will know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He will know and likely some of our fishing buddies across the country will also know when I tell them he\u2019s from Portland.\u00a0 What did I catch, Kevin?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had to have caught sturgeon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 White sturgeon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 White sturgeon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Caught the biggest fish I\u2019ve ever caught in my life.\u00a0 It weighed over 350 pounds.\u00a0 It was eight-feet long.\u00a0 My wife saw a picture of it.\u00a0 She said it looked like a baby submarine.\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019re bottom feeders for sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Turned it back\u2014the fish jumped three times.\u00a0 I\u2019ve never caught anything that big in my life, and I\u2019ve fished a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve not done that thing with your arm in the catfish\u2019s mouth yet; have you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Noodling?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I want to get you doing that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, that\u2019s insanity.\u00a0 Noodling is insanity.\u00a0 They did that where I grew up.\u00a0 Well, enough of the fishing foolishness here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKevin Palau joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\u00a0 Kevin, welcome back to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you, Dennis and Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Kevin and his wife Michelle have been married for 26 years.\u00a0 They have three children, and Kevin is the President of Luis Palau Association.\u00a0 I wanted you to come on the broadcast today because I get so tired\u2014and the phrase is \u201csick and tired\u201d of bad news.\u00a0 There is some good news of some things that are taking place in Portland, Oregon, one of the least-churched areas of the country.\u00a0 Take us back to 2008 and a group of Christian leaders that got together because they cared about their city.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it is a great story.\u00a0 Even though we\u2019re living it today, I never mind going back.\u00a0 We have lived in Portland for more than 50 years.\u00a0 Mom and Dad met at Multnomah School of the Bible, way back in, I think, 1960.\u00a0 We\u2019ve always lived there, but we\u2019d never really done any direct ministry there.\u00a0 We would always travel around the world and do these big evangelistic festivals, but had never done one in Portland.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo cut a long story short, we gathered a number of the pastors and said, \u201cWhat would it look like\u2014how could we make a significant difference?\u00a0 How could we soften hearts for the Gospel in this very progressive\u2014\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 Portland is a very proudly-progressive place, which is a nice way of saying liberal.\u00a0\u00a0 They would say progressive\u2014in every way, shape, and form.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe knew that doing things just the same old, same old way might not work\u2014doing a traditional kind of an evangelistic crusade.\u00a0 We began thinking about, \u201cHow can we show the Gospel in word and deed?\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ve always been an organization that\u2019s done big outdoor evangelistic festivals.\u00a0 We had done some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re speaking now of the Luis Palau Association.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 The Luis Palau Association; that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve done these festivals, where there has literally been hundreds of thousands\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hundreds of thousands of people, at times, in Latin America and other places will come to\u2014you mobilize a church.\u00a0 You get an invitation from hundreds of churches, across all the denominations.\u00a0 Like a Billy Graham Crusade, people would\u2014many would be familiar with that.\u00a0 That\u2019s what we grew up in.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut Portland was a little bit of a different nut to crack.\u00a0 We thought, \u201cWell, maybe instead of going to an arena or a stadium, what if we did a music festival, where there are no fixed seats, where people can kind of come and go as they please?\u00a0 What if they could bring their kids, make it a real family activity?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the old crusade, you\u2019re not going to bring your preschooler or your rambunctious first- or second-grader to sit in a seat and watch a service; but if you had an outdoor music festival, with a family fun zone, and a food court, and corporate sponsors, and pro skaters, and BMX, and great music, maybe that would be a community event that would draw people.\u00a0 We tried that festival event and, then, also added in a component called a season of service.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe thought, \u201cWhat would it look like to serve the community, with no strings attached?\u00a0 Could we mobilize thousands of believers to love and serve the city, and would that help break down some stereotypes?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That group of leaders ended up meeting with the mayor.\u00a0 You went to the mayor\u2019s office to share with him what your dreams were for the city.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What was unique about this meeting?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you know, it was really interesting.\u00a0 We realized that, as a group of churches, as the evangelical community in Portland, we had never done, what seems kind of obvious now\u2014is to actually go humbly to the mayor and say, \u201cWe\u2019re not here to complain about anything.\u00a0 We\u2019re not here to ask for anything or try to gain something from you.\u00a0 We just literally want to come and say, \u2018How can we serve?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we took the tone of, \u201cWe\u2019re a little embarrassed that, here we are, part of the community\u201d\u2014there are actually about 100,000 of us, if you added up all the evangelical community, all the various members\u2014about 100,000 out of two million people in the Portland area that would in some way, shape, or form be part of the evangelical community.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe\u2019ve never really done anything to love and serve.\u00a0 Help us do that.\u00a0 How could we serve?\u00a0 We\u2019re coming with a blank slate.\u00a0 If we had 15,000 volunteers,\u201d\u2014we took a wild guess\u2014\u201cWhat could we do to serve the city?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt first, there was a little bit of a silence; and you know\u2014not sure what to do with it\u2014but over the course of the meeting, the mayor came up with five particular areas that he said, \u201cWell, if you can mobilize some good folks to come and serve\u2014then, hunger and homelessness, health care, partnering with public schools, the environment\u2014these would be some areas where we could use some help.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 This mayor that you met with\u2014he was newly-elected; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\u00a0 We\u2019d gotten to know him when he was a city commissioner.\u00a0 One thing that people would need to know about Portland, or just kind of sets the context of it is, Portland\u2014this mayor, Sam Adams, who has become a very good personal friend, was the first openly-gay mayor of a top-40 city in the country.\u00a0 That partly just gives you a sense of, \u201cThat\u2019s Portland\u2014our mayor, openly gay; our school superintendent, openly lesbian.\u201d\u00a0 In a place like Portland, that\u2019s viewed as very commonplace and a thing that kind of shows what Portland is like.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Normal; nobody should\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cNormal.\u00a0 Why would anybody question that?\u00a0 We\u2019re a tolerant place.\u00a0 We\u2019re a progressive place.\u201d\u00a0 That was a little bit of the context of like, \u201cHow will this work in developing this relationship?\u00a0 Can we go and build a relationship around working for the common good and serving the community?\u201d\u00a0 He responded in a very, very gracious way.\u00a0 Over time\u2014because we\u2019re now talking about almost a five-year period of time\u2014we\u2019ve genuinely built a friendship around loving and serving the community together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Now wait.\u00a0 He knows what you believe about his lifestyle; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s exactly right.\u00a0 It\u2019s been\u2014the thing that\u2019s probably been the most surprising to outside observers is, \u201cHow can that work?\u00a0 I thought that the evangelical community was mostly about, \u2018What we\u2019re against,\u2019\u201d\u2014and again, that may not be fair; but that\u2019s what many people in Portland, who don\u2019t know Christ, would say.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI thought,\u201d when you talk about an evangelical, \u201cI know who you guys are.\u00a0 You hate this group.\u00a0 You\u2019re against this.\u00a0 You\u2019re against that.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know anything that you\u2019re for.\u201d\u00a0 What we really prayed about was, \u201cWhat would it look like to let the city know what we\u2019re for, rather than simply what we\u2019re against?\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, we did not, in any way, compromise or go and say, \u201cHey, by the way, we\u2019ve changed all our views.\u00a0 We agree with you on everything.\u00a0 We were very clear, \u2018Look, an evangelical is someone that loves Jesus Christ, takes the Bible as our authoritative rule for how we live our lives and what we teach. Naturally, we have some areas of disagreement; but we love you, we love every part of the Portland area, and we want to serve, with no strings attached.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo his credit, he treated us at face value, as well.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t come to us with a bunch of stereotypes and say, \u201cI refuse to work with you because I\u2019ve heard that you hate me.\u201d\u00a0 It was nothing like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You shared this story with me over lunch, after I shared the story of my \u201cstringer of fish\u201d with you.\u00a0 I have to say, I kind of stood there and I kind of smiled.\u00a0 I said, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 This is what followers of Christ need to be known for\u2014good deeds, good works, the love of Christ, the love of all people\u2014an invitation to get to know one another and making a difference in the community.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 But hang on.\u00a0 There are a lot of people who are going to write you off.\u00a0 This mayor didn\u2019t.\u00a0 But there are a lot of people who, as soon as they go, \u201cWell, you don\u2019t support gay marriage,\u201d or, \u201cYou don\u2019t support this,\u201d\u2014they\u2019re done with you.\u00a0 They don\u2019t want anything to do with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 The difference, I think, was\u2014and, in fact, the mayor and other leaders said after the fact\u2014they said, \u201cWe didn\u2019t think you guys would follow through.\u00a0 Trust me\u2014we have people coming all the time, spouting off promises\u2014never happens.\u201d\u00a0 The fact was, probably a year later, I was interviewing the mayor.\u00a0 We had several large gatherings of pastors, and Mayor Adams would come.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs he got to know us better, he would kind of jokingly say, \u201cTrust me.\u00a0 When you guys first came in, I didn\u2019t believe you would follow through, at all.\u00a0 Now, the fact is\u2014you said 15,000 volunteers would serve.\u00a0 Not only was it 15,000\u2014\u201d\u201427,000 followers of Christ, in the summer of 2008, served the city of Portland in hundreds of different projects.\u00a0 His attitude now would be, \u201cNot only did you,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m not talking about the Palau Association; I\u2019m talking about the body of Christ\u2014\u201cway under-promised and over-delivered.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cEverything you said you were going to do, you did, with no strings attached.\u00a0 You loved, you served.\u00a0 You have consistently done it.\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t a one-time event\u2014to say you love the city, and serve, and then we never saw you again.\u201d\u00a0 This is now an annual activity.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery May 1 to October 31\u2014so, six months of the year is an officially mayor-declared season of service.\u00a0 These hundreds\u2014about 400 churches\u2014we serve the city, actually throughout the year; but it\u2019s a special emphasis May through October.\u00a0 It\u2019s, now, kind of a part of the fabric of the city.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you mentioned several areas that he invited you to help in:\u00a0 public education, homelessness, hunger, medical services.\u00a0 Go back to the public education.\u00a0 What did you do there, and what\u2019s in place today?\u2014because I think this is really cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 This was really something that, I think, has kind of risen to the fore.\u00a0 I\u2019ll give you one great example because, sometimes, I think that\u2019s the best thing to do.\u00a0 There was a large suburban church, about 20 miles outside of the heart of Portland, in a suburb called West Linn\u2014a pretty wealthy suburb\u2014a church that was doing great\u20142,000 people\u2014blowing out the doors.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTheir big decision was, \u201cWhen are we going to build a big $20-million building on these 50 acres we have?\u201d\u00a0 That was what they were gearing up for; but because they were part of this festival and season of service, they came to us and said, \u201cHelp us find our project. We\u2019re not that engaged with the city or the community.\u00a0 Help us find something we can do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe school superintendent, Carole Smith, had said to us, \u201cRoosevelt High School in North Portland is the toughest, most challenged school in the district.\u00a0 It was built for 1,600 students, decades ago.\u00a0 There are only 450 students left because anybody that could get their kid out of Roosevelt High School had long ago done it.\u00a0 The kids you have left are the most challenged.\u201d\u00a0 The idea was, \u201cCould you come in and just do a makeover of the school?\u201d\u00a0 It started with a one-day clean-up project.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re talking about paint and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Painting, outdoor landscaping.\u00a0 Kind of the typical things you would do; but this church had enough bandwidth to say, \u201cWe\u2019re going to do it right.\u201d\u00a0 So, 1,500 of their people, in very well-organized fashion\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014descended on the school, on a Saturday in June, and did an <em>incredible<\/em> job inside and out.\u00a0 If it would have stopped there, the superintendent, and the principal, and others would have said, \u201cWow!\u00a0 Thank you; thank you; thank you.\u201d\u00a0 But that was just the tip of the iceberg because, what ended up happening was, the people, there from Southlake Church, started just falling in love with the kids at Roosevelt High School.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey started showing up and volunteering, day, by day, by day.\u00a0 Christine, this woman on staff of the church, who was the outreach director, was at the school, almost every day.\u00a0 The principal finally said, \u201cYou\u2019re here every day.\u00a0 Why don\u2019t you office here?\u201d\u00a0 Now, fast-forward four years.\u00a0 The church has two full-time paid staff of the church that office at Roosevelt High School\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014who run a clothing closet, food pantry.\u00a0 They run the Head Start program for students, who have kids of their own, so that they can actually attend classes.\u00a0 They have Nike executives from that church who rebuilt the football field.\u00a0 They had no football team because they had no place to play because the grandstands had been condemned.\u00a0 Nike built them a brand-new grandstands football field.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFormer NFL quarterback Neil Lomax, who is a member of the church, is now the volunteer offensive coordinator for the football team.\u00a0 It has been a remarkable transformation of this high school, and it\u2019s been done under the watching eyes of the entire community.\u00a0 It\u2019s on the front page of the paper over, and over, and over again because people can see the difference that\u2019s being made at Roosevelt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You said homelessness was one of the things the mayor brought to the table.\u00a0 What did a church do, or what did churches do to try to help with the homeless situation?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 One of the areas\u2014in our suburb of Beaverton, Oregon\u2014we found out, to our dismay, that there are more than 1,200 students in our 80,000-student county that are designated homeless by the Federal definition.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t mean that they\u2019re all living on the street; but it means they are in substandard housing\u2014or, in most cases, doubling and tripling up with other people because they don\u2019t have a house or an apartment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Beaverton is really a nice place to live.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is.\u00a0 You would never see that if you were driving around Beaverton.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But you guys addressed the needs of 1,200?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019ve begun by doing things like\u2014we provide all the school supplies\u2014the churches do\u2014for them.\u00a0 We do a medical\/dental clinic for the homeless students.\u00a0 Then, the newest program is a pilot program to do kind of a host home\u2014like a foreign exchange student situation.\u00a0 We did a pilot program last year, where ten believers opened up their homes.\u00a0 Ten high school students, that were homeless, are now living with these families.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a lot of background to it.\u00a0 It\u2019s not just a random thing.\u00a0 There are background checks, both ways\u2014an application process.\u00a0 It\u2019s obviously more complicated than just simply randomly opening up homes.\u00a0 Though, you\u2019re beginning to see that kind of real life-on-life long-term engagement that it takes.\u00a0 Doing school clean-ups are wonderful.\u00a0 It\u2019s a place to start; but if we stop there, we\u2019re not really beginning to get down to more of the root causes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Over that lunch, when you shared a good bit of what you\u2019ve shared here, I just thought, \u201cHere are 400 churches that are unified.\u00a0 They\u2019ve locked arms around addressing the needs of their community.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got another couple of hundred organizations that have pitched in\u2014tens of thousands of volunteers.\u00a0 You\u2019ve engaged the community of faith, families, moms and dads, single people, boys and girls, kids\u2014getting involved.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think our young people today need a sense of mission.\u00a0 They need to see they can make a difference.\u00a0 They need to get their hands dirty with some of these efforts.\u00a0 What was so kindred-spirit, Kevin, was because FamilyLife, about three or four years ago, we decided we wanted to partner with people where they live, in their communities, and wanted to make a difference in building marriages and families.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you\u2019ve done is you\u2019re partnering with churches, you\u2019re partnering with those same families, in wanting to make a difference in your community.\u00a0 I think what the enemy wants to do with those of us who are followers of Christ is convince us, \u201cYou can\u2019t make a difference.\u00a0 You could never change anything.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But, together, we can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s so true; and especially, in a place like Portland, where the history had been\u2014\u201cThere\u2019s no relationship with our mayor.\u00a0 We\u2019re a fairly unchurched place.\u00a0 We have a lot of divisions.\u00a0 How could that ever work?\u201d\u00a0 But you\u2019re right\u2014the unity of the body in loving each other, and the willingness to serve, with no strings attached.\u00a0 I think there was a lot of waiting to see whether or not we just genuinely wanted to love and serve people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe never hid the fact, however, that, as evangelicals, we love Jesus Christ.\u00a0 We are looking for chances to share the Gospel, but we\u2019ll do it in appropriate times and places.\u00a0 We\u2019re not going to go into the public schools, during school hours, and try to preach.\u00a0 We understand that there is a time to serve and simply love people.\u00a0 There are other times, as relationships are built, where we absolutely need to, if we\u2019re going to love people, open our mouths and share the Gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, Kevin, you\u2019ve been at this now five years.\u00a0 What do you think this is going to look like five years from today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think that as we look forward in Portland, down the road, I think we are going to continue to see great love and fellowship among the churches.\u00a0 I think we\u2019re going to continue to see expressions of Jesus Christ, just popping up all over town.\u00a0 I think we will see most of the churches in the Portland area having a school partnership.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve been asked now, formally, because of this Roosevelt High School experience\u2014Superintendent Smith and the other suburban superintendents have said, \u201cGo find us a church partner for every school in Portland public schools.\u201d\u00a0 People scratch their heads and say, \u201cAre you kidding me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s cool.\u00a0 That\u2019s cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kevin:<\/strong>\u00a0 But they\u2019ve seen the love of Christ.\u00a0 They wouldn\u2019t necessarily call it the love of Christ.\u00a0 They\u2019ve seen love in action.\u00a0 Then, they\u2019ve said, \u201cCome and help us.\u201d\u00a0 The needs are there.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s a tremendous open door for us to see people come to Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I do, too.\u00a0 I\u2019m grateful for you, Kevin, and your dad, and your family, and the faithful ministry of Luis Palau Association in proclaiming the Gospel.\u00a0 I\u2019m glad you\u2019re tying this\u2014the good works and good deeds\u2014to the Good News because it\u2019s not just a matter of fixing up a school.\u00a0 It is about caring for those young people, who go to that school, who may not have a daddy, a mom\u2014who may be homeless, even.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just appreciate your faith, your model; and I think you\u2019re charting a new territory.\u00a0 I pray God\u2019s favor upon you and encourage our listeners to pray for Kevin and all the churches in the Northwest\u2014that this would spread across the country.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, it\u2019s starting to.\u00a0 If you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, there\u2019s a link there to the Palau Evangelistic Association and information about where these city-wide festivals are being held.\u00a0 Again, it\u2019s all across the country and in some locations, around the world, as well.\u00a0 You can find out more about what\u2019s going on, and find out about how you could bring one of these events to your city, how you could put a team together and host an event like this and really make an impact in your community for the Gospel. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link you find there for the Luis Palau Evangelistic Association.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhile you\u2019re on our website, look at some of the tools that FamilyLife is making available that you can use in your church, in your community\u2014tools related to marriage and parenting.\u00a0 For example, <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> is an event that has been hosted in more than 2,000 churches around the country now and been viewed by more than 200,000 people.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is an event that you could host in your church or in your community.\u00a0 All the details about how to do it can be found, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Once again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call for more information: 1-800 - F\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d.\u00a0 When you get in touch with us, we\u2019ll answer any questions you have about <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> or the other tools that we have, here at FamilyLife, to help you have an impact for the Gospel in your community.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we always like to take just a minute and say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who have made today\u2019s radio program possible.\u00a0 Like most of the programs you hear on this station, <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is listener-supported.\u00a0 It\u2019s the folks who listen and the folks who have benefitted from what we\u2019re doing\u2014some of you have gotten in touch with us and said, \u201cWe want to help support your work and make sure it continues.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe appreciate that support.\u00a0 We couldn\u2019t be doing what we\u2019re doing if you didn\u2019t do that from time to time.\u00a0 So thanks for your financial support.\u00a0 If you\u2019d like to make a donation, it\u2019s easy to do.\u00a0 Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Click the button that says, \u201cI CARE\u201d, and make an online donation; or you can call and make a donation over the phone at 1-800-FL-TODAY.\u00a0 Again, we appreciate your partnership with us; and it\u2019s always nice to hear from you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to encourage you to be back with us, again tomorrow, when we\u2019re going to introduce you to a couple from Minnesota\u2014a couple who have gotten involved in their community to make a difference\u2014using some of the resources that FamilyLife has.\u00a0 You\u2019ll hear their story and hear about how that\u2019s been working for them, on tomorrow\u2019s program.\u00a0 I hope you can join us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2012 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302549","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302549"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302549"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302549"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302549"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302549"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302549"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302549"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}