{"id":302531,"date":"2012-05-25T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2012-05-25T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/traps-of-boyhood\/"},"modified":"2012-05-25T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2012-05-25T15:00:00","slug":"traps-of-boyhood","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/traps-of-boyhood\/","title":{"rendered":"Traps of Boyhood"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a lot that can trip a boy up these days.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2012-05-25.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.68M","filesize_raw":"23781962","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2837,2835],"tags":[4137,4698,4096,4461,2989],"podcast_series":[7875],"cwp_profile":[9268],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302531","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-fathers","category-raising-boys","tag-bullying","tag-manhood","tag-mentoring","tag-peer-pressure","tag-pornography","podcast_series-flight-plan","cwp_profile-braxton-brady","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302531\/traps-of-boyhood","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302531\/traps-of-boyhood","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"j17WxGNvR5\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/traps-of-boyhood\/\">Traps of Boyhood<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/traps-of-boyhood\/embed\/#?secret=j17WxGNvR5\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Traps of Boyhood&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"j17WxGNvR5\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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it\u2019s not clear to them what they\u2019re supposed to be when they grow up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 No doubt about it.\u00a0 They\u2019re probably getting their images from television, movies, music, the internet, and certainly from their peers.\u00a0 In fact, that\u2019s what I want to talk about today with our guest because I think peer pressure was dangerous back when we were raising our children.\u00a0 I think it is exponentially more dangerous today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was dangerous back when you were 16 years old, wasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, it really was.\u00a0 I mean, it seems like every era has its traps but I just think the traps today are occurring at a younger and younger age.\u00a0 Parents have to be aware of where the traps are and how peers really can lead their children, good children, astray.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBraxton Brady is our guest today, again, on <em>FamilyLifeToday<\/em>.\u00a0 Braxton, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Braxton is a graduate of the University of Memphis.\u00a0 He is the Chaplain of the Presbyterian Day School.\u00a0 And, as we mentioned earlier, this is the largest boys school, sixth grade and under, 630 boys.\u00a0 And you\u2019re the Chaplain of that.\u00a0 And you also teach a class that is called \u201cFlight Plan.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is.\u00a0 It\u2019s part of our <em>Building Boys, Making Men<\/em> program, where we teach our boys basically, from first through sixth grade, what it means to be a man and how that fleshes out in their daily life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re really trying to provide life skill training to these boys so when they do encounter peer pressure they\u2019ll know in advance how to handle it and how to do the right thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Definitely.\u00a0 We want to be pro-active and not reactive.\u00a0 I think we\u2019ve got a reactive parents\u2019 society, at least where I deal with every single day, is that parents see something, react to it, see something, react to it, instead of trying to look forward and think with the end in mind and say, \u201cThis is what\u2019s coming.\u00a0 Let\u2019s figure out how you can make a wise decision.\u201d\u00a0 And peer pressure is definitely the most important issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019ve put this in a book called <em>Flight Plan<\/em>, what you teach those 75 sixth graders. And what we\u2019re talking about today is better equipping parents to know how to train their sons with these life skills as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m just curious. As you try to teach these things to boys at Presbyterian Day School in Memphis, I know it\u2019s a private school so if the parents aren\u2019t jazzed with what you\u2019re telling their sons, they can go somewhere else.\u00a0 But are there people in the community who look and say, \u201cOh, they\u2019re teaching boys to be chauvinists.\u201d\u00a0 Or \u201cThey\u2019ve got an old view of what it means to be a man.\u201d\u00a0 Do you get criticism for the program?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Most times we don\u2019t because at the end of the day most people in our city want men who are willing to stand up for what\u2019s right.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been applauded over and over and over again for trying to teach boys at such a young age.\u00a0 I think a lot of times we think, \u201dOh, we\u2019ll just wait until middle school.\u00a0 We\u2019ll just wait until high school.\u00a0 They\u2019ll get it in college.\u201d\u00a0 And that\u2019s not the case.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe most formative years of a boy\u2019s life is right in the ten, 11, and 12-year-old range.\u00a0 They form their biases then.\u00a0 That\u2019s just a crucial time for us to try to shape and mold them and teach them what it means to be a godly man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 As I was talking about peer pressure, you were nodding your head.\u00a0 You\u2019re undoubtedly seeing a whole new level of traps being set for young men today as they move toward adolescence.\u00a0 What are some of those traps?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think number one is the access to information.\u00a0 It is absolutely unbelievable how quick boys can access information.\u00a0 I tell parents all the time you know, it would have been hard for me --I\u2019m 38 -- but in my high school years and elementary years, it would have been hard for me to go and try to find some type of pornography.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut now if you\u2019ve got a hand-held device or a computer, and it\u2019s in your room, you might as well go and stack thirty <em>Playboy<\/em>s in his closet because he\u2019s one click away from getting into something he does not need to get into.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it\u2019s not a question of if your son is going to see pornography by the time he\u2019s 13.\u00a0 It\u2019s a matter of how early he\u2019ll see it and how often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely, it is.\u00a0 Our parents are so scared of it that we try to put this bubble around it and make sure that it\u2019s not ever going to happen.\u00a0 But it\u2019s going to happen at some point and they\u2019ve got to be willing to talk about it and address it without our kids being fearful that \u201cOh, Dad\u2019s going to yell and scream at me.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to be in trouble and I\u2019m going to go in a hole and not be able to communicate anymore.\u201d\u00a0 There\u2019s got to be a strategic and intentional conversation with that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s talk about pornography for a moment. What would you say to parents about protecting their sons from getting into this?\u00a0 And, as far as that goes, their daughters as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got to take appropriate measures with the computer.\u00a0 In my home, our house is one big open spot on the first floor and everybody\u2019s rooms are on the second floor.\u00a0 Technology doesn\u2019t go up on the second floor.\u00a0 We want to make sure that our boys and our three-year-old is not old enough to--well she might be old enough, the way technology is going nowadays.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, really.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 But our boys know that if they need to get on the computer they need to ask permission and obviously we\u2019re going to check our history.\u00a0 My 13-year-old, against my better wishes, has a cell phone just because he\u2019s at a school now that I\u2019m not there and so he\u2019s fifteen minutes away in case he\u2019s got football or late.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think with cell phones you\u2019ve got to make sure that you\u2019ve got such an open communication with your son or daughter that they\u2019re willing to say, you know what, if you get into something that you don\u2019t feel like you can handle, then come to me and let\u2019s talk about it and let\u2019s work through that.\u00a0 Because I want it to happen under my roof before they leave when they\u2019re eighteen and go off to college and have to make wise decisions on their own.\u00a0 I want to be able to talk them through that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, cell phones are a big, big deal and I would encourage parents to not let them move around with their cell phones.\u00a0 I think they need to make sure that cell phones go all in the same place, parents included, because it\u2019s as bad of a problem with parents as it is with kids, because parents are on their phones more than they are communicating with their kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I want to ask this appropriately, but have you had a conversation with your sons about viewing pornography?\u00a0 I mean, perhaps they\u2019ve been exposed.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to ask you that here.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want to embarrass your boys.\u00a0 But have you had those conversations?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have.\u00a0 My middle son is eight, so we\u2019ve just started having those conversations.\u00a0 But my 13-year old and I have continual conversations on \u201cWhat have you seen, what have you not seen, what do you think you would struggle with?\u201d\u00a0 I put him in situations where \u201cWhat would be the situation where you would give in?\u00a0 What would that look like?\u00a0 So let\u2019s try to help navigate that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do that with drugs and alcohol.\u00a0 I do that with pre-marital sex.\u00a0 I do that with all my conversations with him.\u00a0 \u201cLet\u2019s look at what kind of situations would you feel like you couldn\u2019t stand up to the test and let\u2019s try to walk through those.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What I want our listeners to hear is you, as a parent, need to be intentional.\u00a0 You almost can\u2019t start too early.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s almost a shock to a parent; I know moms are going, \u201cHe\u2019s just a little boy.\u00a0 He\u2019s eight years old.\u201d\u00a0 But I\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 Evil is preying upon eight-year-old boys.\u00a0 You don\u2019t have control over their peers, what happens in other people\u2019s homes, and what kind of access they have on their computers.\u00a0 These conversations need to be started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 I tell our parents every single time, the first thing that comes out of my mouth at a parent meeting, is your son is going to get a version of manhood from you or womanhood from your mom or something from someone else.\u00a0 And I can promise you, you don\u2019t want the alternative.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou need to be the one to cast a vision of godly manhood, godly womanhood, for your son or daughter.\u00a0 You need to be the one to do that.\u00a0 You need to be able to communicate truth.\u00a0 Your kids need to know how to apply Biblical truth to everyday life.\u00a0 That\u2019s the parents\u2019 role.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell our headmaster all the time and our co-author Lee Burns, I really shouldn\u2019t have a job.\u00a0 If parents were doing what they should I shouldn\u2019t have a job.\u00a0 I wish I didn\u2019t, honestly.\u00a0 I wish every parent would say, \u201cYou know what, Braxton?\u00a0 I\u2019m on board with you.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to take this and you can just kind of supplement as we go.\u201d\u00a0 But sadly that\u2019s not the society we live in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 As you look at peers today, not only around your sons, but at school, what are some of the other areas that are just as deadly, just as crippling, that can occur in boys\u2019 lives today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one critical issue, it\u2019s an identity issue is, really, bullying.\u00a0 And more verbal abuse than it is physical.\u00a0 But just kind of knocking boys down, kind of chipping at them every now and then.\u00a0 And then you see a boy kind of shoulders hunched over and not really confident in himself.\u00a0 It\u2019s because he\u2019s getting his identity from achievements and successes and not really who he is.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t see that as much as PBS but a lot in our neighborhood is that boys are trying to one-up each other and they think that by abusing the other one, that makes me look good.\u00a0 So that\u2019s really a big one that we\u2019re dealing with now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re seeing older boys put down younger boys, say things about them.\u00a0 It\u2019s back to the old statement, \u201cSticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.\u201d\u00a0 Well, the words do hurt and they stick and stay in the hearts and heads of these young boys.\u00a0 As adults, especially as men, we need to be speaking good words to our sons and calling them up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 And another area of peer pressure that I\u2019ve just personally dealt with\u2026\u00a0 I meet with a group of high school guys on Tuesday morning that I mentor and they all went down to the beach for fall break and every single one of them gave in to alcohol.\u00a0 And so we had a real serious conversation of \u201cWhy?\u00a0 Why did you give in?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And pretty much the reason was \u201cI just wanted to see what it was all about.\u00a0 Everybody keeps talking about how great it was and I just wanted to see what it was all about.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cHow did it make you feel?\u201d\u00a0 And every single one of them said, \u201cIt just made me feel empty inside.\u00a0 It really didn\u2019t matter.\u00a0 Nobody really cared if I drank this beer or not.\u201d\u00a0 They just wanted everybody to be the same or the same as the guy making the mistake.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so it\u2019s just a critical, critical issue that the influence that peers have is unbelievable.\u00a0 It really is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had a conversation recently with Josh McDowell.\u00a0 He authored a book that\u2019s now sold, I don\u2019t know how many tens of millions, <em>More Than a Carpenter<\/em>.\u00a0 But Josh speaks to a lot of junior high, high school students and he was speaking to the very issue you were talking about.\u00a0 I want you to comment on it too.\u00a0 He said the thing that is moving these boys, and as far as that goes, girls, into some of this experimentation with sex and alcohol and drugs is curiosity.\u00a0 It\u2019s a part of the adventure of being a boy.\u00a0 What\u2019s a parent to do with the curious nature of a boy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I think you\u2019ve got to set the stage as a parent to give them as much information about it as you can so there\u2019s really not that curiosity or less curiosity after they get through talking with you. And that\u2019s why I want our parents to be proactive and say \u201cThis is what\u2019s coming and this is what it looks like.\u00a0 Let me take a little bit of the curiosity away.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know also it just goes back to an identity issue.\u00a0 My oldest son is 13 and has decided that he now needs a girlfriend and, despite our numerous conversations of reasons not to have a girlfriend at a young age, he and this young lady have begun talking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 (Laughing)\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry for laughing\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re starting to sweat a little here, Dad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You got serious all of a sudden here, Braxton.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s just don\u2019t mention my three-year-old daughter and then I\u2019ll get really, really serious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a book I\u2019ll give you on that.\u00a0 I\u2019ll prepare you for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Please.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk later.\u00a0 But he has come home the last few days just sad about the relationship.\u00a0 And so my wife, I let her take this one, since she\u2019s a little bit better at communicating the girl issues than I am.\u00a0 The root of the issue was it was his identity.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t want another guy to be talking to her because he felt like maybe she\u2019ll like him more than she\u2019ll like --\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh yeah.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 And so it was an identity issue.\u00a0 It was just\u2026\u00a0 I think it speaks to the heart of all this peer pressure.\u00a0 It is where do our boys, where do our girls, find their true identity?\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I like what you said.\u00a0 You ran past it rather quickly and I just want to underline it here verbally.\u00a0 You said as a parent you want to give them as much information as you can coming from Mom and Dad.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd what we try to do in the new <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, which is brand new, totally revised, is we tried to set the parent up to engage their sons and, as far as that goes, their daughters, in a conversation about matters of the opposite sex, about choices they\u2019re going to face, which is what you\u2019re talking about here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I think the point you made earlier is that I think parents are scared that \u201cOh, we\u2019re doing this too early.\u00a0 We\u2019re doing this too early.\u201d\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it\u2019s early enough, honestly.\u00a0 We give the sex talk to our boys at PBS at sixth grade and I tell our parents all the time that I\u2019m hoping and praying that you\u2019ve had this talk several years before so that we can just supplement what you are doing.\u00a0 And so I think you\u2019re exactly right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the talk is really a series of talks.\u00a0 It needs to be an ongoing dialogue on this subject, doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 It does.\u00a0 I mean we\u2019re a little bit landlocked in the fact that we\u2019ve only got an hour and a half once a month to teach this class.\u00a0 We educate our parents of what we\u2019re doing as we go.\u00a0 And really, in a perfect world, they would have had every one of these conversations before they\u2019ve gotten to us, and we could just supplement the information for their kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When you have spent six years, maybe a little longer, with a young man starting at the age of five or six, up until the time that he\u2019s 12 years old, trying to drill home the values that you\u2019re drilling home at the school and the values that are in the book, trying to help him understand what\u2019s at the core of masculinity, is he ready for life now at age 13?\u00a0 I mean, have you got him pointed in the right direction?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 We hope we\u2019ve got him pointed in the right direction.\u00a0 But those five guys I just mentioned having a conversation with\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019d all been through this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019d all been through it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So this is not an inoculation.\u00a0 You can\u2019t take your son through this and go, \u201cWell, I\u2019ve delivered the goods; now he\u2019s safe against whatever he\u2019s going to face.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 In the peer pressure chapter we give about seven or eight scenarios of \u201cWhat would you do in this situation?\u201d\u00a0 And it\u2019s all good and they can all make wise decisions when they are in front of me.\u00a0 \u201cOh, this is what I would do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the minute that the beer is handed to you, what are you doing to do then?\u00a0 I mean, real life application.\u00a0 And so we can\u2019t do that with them.\u00a0 So we see great stories and we see stories like the guys that I\u2019m still mentoring in the tenth grade.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 But how much better for them when they get the beer handed to them that they\u2019d had some conversation from the time they were six years old about what makes a man a man, so that at least there\u2019s a voice of conscience that speaks to them in those moments.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 That\u2019s what we want.\u00a0 But we also want our parents to have the opportunity to talk with their child too so that when that beer is handed that that son comes home and says, \u201cDad, I got tempted tonight.\u00a0 I did it or I didn\u2019t do it.\u00a0 Let\u2019s talk through it.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, that\u2019s really my goal is to educate dads and moms-- to say \u201cHere\u2019s what your boys are doing to be facing,\u201d and \u201cHere\u2019s the kind of intentional and strategic conversations you need to have with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019ve mentioned the word intentional several times.\u00a0 My children described me as an intentional daddy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mr. Intentional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mr. Intentional.\u00a0 But I have to say this.\u00a0 I look back on it.\u00a0 I was far too na\u00efve about what you just talked about here.\u00a0 I think I had the sex talk and I didn\u2019t double back.\u00a0 Not just on an annual basis but look for opportunities regularly to check in, check up, \u201cHow you doing?\u201d and even get down into talking about the gritty issues that a young boy is going to face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I definitely think you need to circle back.\u00a0 One of the points that I make to parents is we\u2019ve got to communicate truth and once you\u2019ve had that talk, well, guess what?\u00a0 You\u2019re going to be sitting watching the Superbowl with your son and a scantily clad lady is going to come across the screen or an Axe body spray.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhich is probably the funniest thing of the culture nowadays, is our boys at PBS spray this spray on them and they think girls are going to come out of the lockers and flock after them, which is funny because there are no girls around, which is even funnier.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we need to make sure that we stop, we pause the TV or DVR and say, \u201cListen.\u00a0 This is not an appropriate view of how you should treat a woman.\u201d\u00a0 If we don\u2019t, then we\u2019ve just created a normal that\u2019s opposite to what we\u2019re teaching.\u00a0 If we let that go and we\u2019re passive as Dennis said, then we\u2019re creating a normal that we don\u2019t need to have, that that\u2019s normal.\u00a0 We think that\u2019s normal.\u00a0 And that\u2019s not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How do you root this call to Biblical manhood in something that keeps it from just being a call to a higher standard of morality for these boys and really help them see it\u2019s a Gospel issue?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 In our manhood definition the first few words, \u201ca real man glorifies God.\u201d\u00a0 And our key phrase and keyword at PBS is \u201cLive for God\u2019s glory and not your own.\u201d\u00a0 And when you understand that your life is lived for God\u2019s glory, then it fleshes out in how you treat others and your friendships.\u00a0 It\u2019s how you treat the opposite sex.\u00a0 It\u2019s how you treat your parents.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s how you walk into the classroom everyday and say, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 God has given me a brain to use and I\u2019m going to use it to His glory today.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to worry about what everybody else in the class makes as far as grades.\u00a0 But I\u2019m about walking in here and being respectful and kind to the teacher and I do that because of what God has done for me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s the constant that we always teach at PBS, the why behind what you\u2019re doing.\u00a0 You\u2019re doing it because you\u2019re living for God\u2019s glory and not your own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the thing every man who is listening right now needs to consider, is how am I living for the glory of God and not for my own glory?\u00a0 Bob knows what I\u2019m talking about here, but earlier we did some videotaping of Mark Driscoll for a brand new series we\u2019re coming out with for men.\u00a0 It\u2019s taken from my book <em>Stepping Up, A Call to Courageous Manhood<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob asked Mark Driscoll, \u201cWhat\u2019s the essence of a man?\u201d and you know what?\u00a0 He agrees with you a hundred percent, Braxton.\u00a0 He says it\u2019s a man who glorifies God, who\u2019s all about the glory of God.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, I can\u2019t wait for fathers to get a copy of your book, <em>Flight Plan<\/em>, to begin teaching their sons.\u00a0 And I can\u2019t wait for this new series to be out, which will better equip not just the fathers, but the husbands, single men, and, as far as that goes, probably some younger men are going to watch this video series as well that will better equip them to know what real manhood is and how to be a man.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut above and beyond videos and books and all that, they need somebody who\u2019s got skin on.\u00a0 They need a dad in their lives that is demonstrating, calling them, showing them how to handle their successes and their failures, and calling them up to godly, mature, manhood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The reason some guys aren\u2019t engaging with their sons is because they\u2019re confused about what manhood is all about.\u00a0 I hope our listeners will take just a minute and pray for us as we\u2019re trying to put the finishing touches on this video series.\u00a0 It comes out in August and, in fact, we\u2019re kicking it off with a one day National\u00a0 Men\u2019s Conference, the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> National Men\u2019s Conference.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s going to originate from Chicago.\u00a0 It\u2019s going to be webcast to churches all around the country.\u00a0 Hundreds of churches are going to be host churches for this event.\u00a0 If you\u2019d like to find out more about how your church could host the Stepping Up National Men\u2019s Conference, featuring Dennis Rainey, James McDonald, Crawford Loritts, Dr. Robert Lewis, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> link there.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s more information about the national conference and about the video series that comes out in August as well.\u00a0 Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link that says <em>Stepping Up<\/em>.\u00a0 You can also find information about Braxton\u2019s book, <em>Flight Plan<\/em>, when you\u2019re on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call us toll free at 1-800-FLTODAY, 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 Ask about the book <em>Flight Plan<\/em> when you get in touch with us.\u00a0 Or if you have questions about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> National Men\u2019s Conference or about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series, call us at 1-800-FLTODAY and we\u2019ll answer whatever questions we can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to say a word of thanks to those of you who are helping us with the funding for the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series and the National Men\u2019s Conference, especially those of you who this month have given a gift to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 During the month of May those financial gifts are being matched dollar for 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And what we\u2019re talking about today is better equipping parents to know how to train their sons with these life skills as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m just curious. As you try to teach these things to boys at Presbyterian Day School in Memphis, I know it\u2019s a private school so if the parents aren\u2019t jazzed with what you\u2019re telling their sons, they can go somewhere else.\u00a0 But are there people in the community who look and say, \u201cOh, they\u2019re teaching boys to be chauvinists.\u201d\u00a0 Or \u201cThey\u2019ve got an old view of what it means to be a man.\u201d\u00a0 Do you get criticism for the program?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Most times we don\u2019t because at the end of the day most people in our city want men who are willing to stand up for what\u2019s right.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been applauded over and over and over again for trying to teach boys at such a young age.\u00a0 I think a lot of times we think, \u201dOh, we\u2019ll just wait until middle school.\u00a0 We\u2019ll just wait until high school.\u00a0 They\u2019ll get it in college.\u201d\u00a0 And that\u2019s not the case.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe most formative years of a boy\u2019s life is right in the ten, 11, and 12-year-old range.\u00a0 They form their biases then.\u00a0 That\u2019s just a crucial time for us to try to shape and mold them and teach them what it means to be a godly man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 As I was talking about peer pressure, you were nodding your head.\u00a0 You\u2019re undoubtedly seeing a whole new level of traps being set for young men today as they move toward adolescence.\u00a0 What are some of those traps?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think number one is the access to information.\u00a0 It is absolutely unbelievable how quick boys can access information.\u00a0 I tell parents all the time you know, it would have been hard for me --I\u2019m 38 -- but in my high school years and elementary years, it would have been hard for me to go and try to find some type of pornography.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut now if you\u2019ve got a hand-held device or a computer, and it\u2019s in your room, you might as well go and stack thirty <em>Playboy<\/em>s in his closet because he\u2019s one click away from getting into something he does not need to get into.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it\u2019s not a question of if your son is going to see pornography by the time he\u2019s 13.\u00a0 It\u2019s a matter of how early he\u2019ll see it and how often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely, it is.\u00a0 Our parents are so scared of it that we try to put this bubble around it and make sure that it\u2019s not ever going to happen.\u00a0 But it\u2019s going to happen at some point and they\u2019ve got to be willing to talk about it and address it without our kids being fearful that \u201cOh, Dad\u2019s going to yell and scream at me.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to be in trouble and I\u2019m going to go in a hole and not be able to communicate anymore.\u201d\u00a0 There\u2019s got to be a strategic and intentional conversation with that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s talk about pornography for a moment. What would you say to parents about protecting their sons from getting into this?\u00a0 And, as far as that goes, their daughters as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got to take appropriate measures with the computer.\u00a0 In my home, our house is one big open spot on the first floor and everybody\u2019s rooms are on the second floor.\u00a0 Technology doesn\u2019t go up on the second floor.\u00a0 We want to make sure that our boys and our three-year-old is not old enough to--well she might be old enough, the way technology is going nowadays.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, really.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 But our boys know that if they need to get on the computer they need to ask permission and obviously we\u2019re going to check our history.\u00a0 My 13-year-old, against my better wishes, has a cell phone just because he\u2019s at a school now that I\u2019m not there and so he\u2019s fifteen minutes away in case he\u2019s got football or late.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think with cell phones you\u2019ve got to make sure that you\u2019ve got such an open communication with your son or daughter that they\u2019re willing to say, you know what, if you get into something that you don\u2019t feel like you can handle, then come to me and let\u2019s talk about it and let\u2019s work through that.\u00a0 Because I want it to happen under my roof before they leave when they\u2019re eighteen and go off to college and have to make wise decisions on their own.\u00a0 I want to be able to talk them through that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, cell phones are a big, big deal and I would encourage parents to not let them move around with their cell phones.\u00a0 I think they need to make sure that cell phones go all in the same place, parents included, because it\u2019s as bad of a problem with parents as it is with kids, because parents are on their phones more than they are communicating with their kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I want to ask this appropriately, but have you had a conversation with your sons about viewing pornography?\u00a0 I mean, perhaps they\u2019ve been exposed.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to ask you that here.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want to embarrass your boys.\u00a0 But have you had those conversations?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have.\u00a0 My middle son is eight, so we\u2019ve just started having those conversations.\u00a0 But my 13-year old and I have continual conversations on \u201cWhat have you seen, what have you not seen, what do you think you would struggle with?\u201d\u00a0 I put him in situations where \u201cWhat would be the situation where you would give in?\u00a0 What would that look like?\u00a0 So let\u2019s try to help navigate that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do that with drugs and alcohol.\u00a0 I do that with pre-marital sex.\u00a0 I do that with all my conversations with him.\u00a0 \u201cLet\u2019s look at what kind of situations would you feel like you couldn\u2019t stand up to the test and let\u2019s try to walk through those.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What I want our listeners to hear is you, as a parent, need to be intentional.\u00a0 You almost can\u2019t start too early.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s almost a shock to a parent; I know moms are going, \u201cHe\u2019s just a little boy.\u00a0 He\u2019s eight years old.\u201d\u00a0 But I\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 Evil is preying upon eight-year-old boys.\u00a0 You don\u2019t have control over their peers, what happens in other people\u2019s homes, and what kind of access they have on their computers.\u00a0 These conversations need to be started.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 I tell our parents every single time, the first thing that comes out of my mouth at a parent meeting, is your son is going to get a version of manhood from you or womanhood from your mom or something from someone else.\u00a0 And I can promise you, you don\u2019t want the alternative.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou need to be the one to cast a vision of godly manhood, godly womanhood, for your son or daughter.\u00a0 You need to be the one to do that.\u00a0 You need to be able to communicate truth.\u00a0 Your kids need to know how to apply Biblical truth to everyday life.\u00a0 That\u2019s the parents\u2019 role.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell our headmaster all the time and our co-author Lee Burns, I really shouldn\u2019t have a job.\u00a0 If parents were doing what they should I shouldn\u2019t have a job.\u00a0 I wish I didn\u2019t, honestly.\u00a0 I wish every parent would say, \u201cYou know what, Braxton?\u00a0 I\u2019m on board with you.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to take this and you can just kind of supplement as we go.\u201d\u00a0 But sadly that\u2019s not the society we live in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 As you look at peers today, not only around your sons, but at school, what are some of the other areas that are just as deadly, just as crippling, that can occur in boys\u2019 lives today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one critical issue, it\u2019s an identity issue is, really, bullying.\u00a0 And more verbal abuse than it is physical.\u00a0 But just kind of knocking boys down, kind of chipping at them every now and then.\u00a0 And then you see a boy kind of shoulders hunched over and not really confident in himself.\u00a0 It\u2019s because he\u2019s getting his identity from achievements and successes and not really who he is.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe don\u2019t see that as much as PBS but a lot in our neighborhood is that boys are trying to one-up each other and they think that by abusing the other one, that makes me look good.\u00a0 So that\u2019s really a big one that we\u2019re dealing with now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re seeing older boys put down younger boys, say things about them.\u00a0 It\u2019s back to the old statement, \u201cSticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.\u201d\u00a0 Well, the words do hurt and they stick and stay in the hearts and heads of these young boys.\u00a0 As adults, especially as men, we need to be speaking good words to our sons and calling them up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 And another area of peer pressure that I\u2019ve just personally dealt with\u2026\u00a0 I meet with a group of high school guys on Tuesday morning that I mentor and they all went down to the beach for fall break and every single one of them gave in to alcohol.\u00a0 And so we had a real serious conversation of \u201cWhy?\u00a0 Why did you give in?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0And pretty much the reason was \u201cI just wanted to see what it was all about.\u00a0 Everybody keeps talking about how great it was and I just wanted to see what it was all about.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cHow did it make you feel?\u201d\u00a0 And every single one of them said, \u201cIt just made me feel empty inside.\u00a0 It really didn\u2019t matter.\u00a0 Nobody really cared if I drank this beer or not.\u201d\u00a0 They just wanted everybody to be the same or the same as the guy making the mistake.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so it\u2019s just a critical, critical issue that the influence that peers have is unbelievable.\u00a0 It really is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I had a conversation recently with Josh McDowell.\u00a0 He authored a book that\u2019s now sold, I don\u2019t know how many tens of millions, <em>More Than a Carpenter<\/em>.\u00a0 But Josh speaks to a lot of junior high, high school students and he was speaking to the very issue you were talking about.\u00a0 I want you to comment on it too.\u00a0 He said the thing that is moving these boys, and as far as that goes, girls, into some of this experimentation with sex and alcohol and drugs is curiosity.\u00a0 It\u2019s a part of the adventure of being a boy.\u00a0 What\u2019s a parent to do with the curious nature of a boy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I think you\u2019ve got to set the stage as a parent to give them as much information about it as you can so there\u2019s really not that curiosity or less curiosity after they get through talking with you. And that\u2019s why I want our parents to be proactive and say \u201cThis is what\u2019s coming and this is what it looks like.\u00a0 Let me take a little bit of the curiosity away.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know also it just goes back to an identity issue.\u00a0 My oldest son is 13 and has decided that he now needs a girlfriend and, despite our numerous conversations of reasons not to have a girlfriend at a young age, he and this young lady have begun talking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 (Laughing)\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry for laughing\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You\u2019re starting to sweat a little here, Dad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You got serious all of a sudden here, Braxton.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let\u2019s just don\u2019t mention my three-year-old daughter and then I\u2019ll get really, really serious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a book I\u2019ll give you on that.\u00a0 I\u2019ll prepare you for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Please.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk later.\u00a0 But he has come home the last few days just sad about the relationship.\u00a0 And so my wife, I let her take this one, since she\u2019s a little bit better at communicating the girl issues than I am.\u00a0 The root of the issue was it was his identity.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t want another guy to be talking to her because he felt like maybe she\u2019ll like him more than she\u2019ll like --\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh yeah.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 And so it was an identity issue.\u00a0 It was just\u2026\u00a0 I think it speaks to the heart of all this peer pressure.\u00a0 It is where do our boys, where do our girls, find their true identity?\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I like what you said.\u00a0 You ran past it rather quickly and I just want to underline it here verbally.\u00a0 You said as a parent you want to give them as much information as you can coming from Mom and Dad.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd what we try to do in the new <em>Passport2Purity<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, which is brand new, totally revised, is we tried to set the parent up to engage their sons and, as far as that goes, their daughters, in a conversation about matters of the opposite sex, about choices they\u2019re going to face, which is what you\u2019re talking about here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I think the point you made earlier is that I think parents are scared that \u201cOh, we\u2019re doing this too early.\u00a0 We\u2019re doing this too early.\u201d\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it\u2019s early enough, honestly.\u00a0 We give the sex talk to our boys at PBS at sixth grade and I tell our parents all the time that I\u2019m hoping and praying that you\u2019ve had this talk several years before so that we can just supplement what you are doing.\u00a0 And so I think you\u2019re exactly right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the talk is really a series of talks.\u00a0 It needs to be an ongoing dialogue on this subject, doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 It does.\u00a0 I mean we\u2019re a little bit landlocked in the fact that we\u2019ve only got an hour and a half once a month to teach this class.\u00a0 We educate our parents of what we\u2019re doing as we go.\u00a0 And really, in a perfect world, they would have had every one of these conversations before they\u2019ve gotten to us, and we could just supplement the information for their kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When you have spent six years, maybe a little longer, with a young man starting at the age of five or six, up until the time that he\u2019s 12 years old, trying to drill home the values that you\u2019re drilling home at the school and the values that are in the book, trying to help him understand what\u2019s at the core of masculinity, is he ready for life now at age 13?\u00a0 I mean, have you got him pointed in the right direction?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 We hope we\u2019ve got him pointed in the right direction.\u00a0 But those five guys I just mentioned having a conversation with\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019d all been through this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019d all been through it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So this is not an inoculation.\u00a0 You can\u2019t take your son through this and go, \u201cWell, I\u2019ve delivered the goods; now he\u2019s safe against whatever he\u2019s going to face.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 In the peer pressure chapter we give about seven or eight scenarios of \u201cWhat would you do in this situation?\u201d\u00a0 And it\u2019s all good and they can all make wise decisions when they are in front of me.\u00a0 \u201cOh, this is what I would do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the minute that the beer is handed to you, what are you doing to do then?\u00a0 I mean, real life application.\u00a0 And so we can\u2019t do that with them.\u00a0 So we see great stories and we see stories like the guys that I\u2019m still mentoring in the tenth grade.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 But how much better for them when they get the beer handed to them that they\u2019d had some conversation from the time they were six years old about what makes a man a man, so that at least there\u2019s a voice of conscience that speaks to them in those moments.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 That\u2019s what we want.\u00a0 But we also want our parents to have the opportunity to talk with their child too so that when that beer is handed that that son comes home and says, \u201cDad, I got tempted tonight.\u00a0 I did it or I didn\u2019t do it.\u00a0 Let\u2019s talk through it.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, that\u2019s really my goal is to educate dads and moms-- to say \u201cHere\u2019s what your boys are doing to be facing,\u201d and \u201cHere\u2019s the kind of intentional and strategic conversations you need to have with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019ve mentioned the word intentional several times.\u00a0 My children described me as an intentional daddy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mr. Intentional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mr. Intentional.\u00a0 But I have to say this.\u00a0 I look back on it.\u00a0 I was far too na\u00efve about what you just talked about here.\u00a0 I think I had the sex talk and I didn\u2019t double back.\u00a0 Not just on an annual basis but look for opportunities regularly to check in, check up, \u201cHow you doing?\u201d and even get down into talking about the gritty issues that a young boy is going to face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 I definitely think you need to circle back.\u00a0 One of the points that I make to parents is we\u2019ve got to communicate truth and once you\u2019ve had that talk, well, guess what?\u00a0 You\u2019re going to be sitting watching the Superbowl with your son and a scantily clad lady is going to come across the screen or an Axe body spray.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhich is probably the funniest thing of the culture nowadays, is our boys at PBS spray this spray on them and they think girls are going to come out of the lockers and flock after them, which is funny because there are no girls around, which is even funnier.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we need to make sure that we stop, we pause the TV or DVR and say, \u201cListen.\u00a0 This is not an appropriate view of how you should treat a woman.\u201d\u00a0 If we don\u2019t, then we\u2019ve just created a normal that\u2019s opposite to what we\u2019re teaching.\u00a0 If we let that go and we\u2019re passive as Dennis said, then we\u2019re creating a normal that we don\u2019t need to have, that that\u2019s normal.\u00a0 We think that\u2019s normal.\u00a0 And that\u2019s not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How do you root this call to Biblical manhood in something that keeps it from just being a call to a higher standard of morality for these boys and really help them see it\u2019s a Gospel issue?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Braxton:<\/strong>\u00a0 In our manhood definition the first few words, \u201ca real man glorifies God.\u201d\u00a0 And our key phrase and keyword at PBS is \u201cLive for God\u2019s glory and not your own.\u201d\u00a0 And when you understand that your life is lived for God\u2019s glory, then it fleshes out in how you treat others and your friendships.\u00a0 It\u2019s how you treat the opposite sex.\u00a0 It\u2019s how you treat your parents.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s how you walk into the classroom everyday and say, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 God has given me a brain to use and I\u2019m going to use it to His glory today.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to worry about what everybody else in the class makes as far as grades.\u00a0 But I\u2019m about walking in here and being respectful and kind to the teacher and I do that because of what God has done for me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s the constant that we always teach at PBS, the why behind what you\u2019re doing.\u00a0 You\u2019re doing it because you\u2019re living for God\u2019s glory and not your own.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And the thing every man who is listening right now needs to consider, is how am I living for the glory of God and not for my own glory?\u00a0 Bob knows what I\u2019m talking about here, but earlier we did some videotaping of Mark Driscoll for a brand new series we\u2019re coming out with for men.\u00a0 It\u2019s taken from my book <em>Stepping Up, A Call to Courageous Manhood<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob asked Mark Driscoll, \u201cWhat\u2019s the essence of a man?\u201d and you know what?\u00a0 He agrees with you a hundred percent, Braxton.\u00a0 He says it\u2019s a man who glorifies God, who\u2019s all about the glory of God.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFrankly, I can\u2019t wait for fathers to get a copy of your book, <em>Flight Plan<\/em>, to begin teaching their sons.\u00a0 And I can\u2019t wait for this new series to be out, which will better equip not just the fathers, but the husbands, single men, and, as far as that goes, probably some younger men are going to watch this video series as well that will better equip them to know what real manhood is and how to be a man.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut above and beyond videos and books and all that, they need somebody who\u2019s got skin on.\u00a0 They need a dad in their lives that is demonstrating, calling them, showing them how to handle their successes and their failures, and calling them up to godly, mature, manhood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 The reason some guys aren\u2019t engaging with their sons is because they\u2019re confused about what manhood is all about.\u00a0 I hope our listeners will take just a minute and pray for us as we\u2019re trying to put the finishing touches on this video series.\u00a0 It comes out in August and, in fact, we\u2019re kicking it off with a one day National\u00a0 Men\u2019s Conference, the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> National Men\u2019s Conference.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s going to originate from Chicago.\u00a0 It\u2019s going to be webcast to churches all around the country.\u00a0 Hundreds of churches are going to be host churches for this event.\u00a0 If you\u2019d like to find out more about how your church could host the Stepping Up National Men\u2019s Conference, featuring Dennis Rainey, James McDonald, Crawford Loritts, Dr. Robert Lewis, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> link there.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s more information about the national conference and about the video series that comes out in August as well.\u00a0 Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click on the link that says <em>Stepping Up<\/em>.\u00a0 You can also find information about Braxton\u2019s book, <em>Flight Plan<\/em>, when you\u2019re on our website, FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call us toll free at 1-800-FLTODAY, 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800- \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 Ask about the book <em>Flight Plan<\/em> when you get in touch with us.\u00a0 Or if you have questions about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> National Men\u2019s Conference or about the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series, call us at 1-800-FLTODAY and we\u2019ll answer whatever questions we can.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to say a word of thanks to those of you who are helping us with the funding for the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> video series and the National Men\u2019s Conference, especially those of you who this month have given a gift to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 During the month of May those financial gifts are being matched dollar for dollar, up to a total of $650,000.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re not there yet.\u00a0 There\u2019s a thermometer on our website that will show you what our progress has been.\u00a0 But we want to ask you here in the last few days of the month of May, to consider making a donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Your donation is helping us not only with the cost associated with putting this video series together, but also with the cost for this daily radio program.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are listener-supported and the cost of producing and syndicating this program is covered by folks like you who make generous contributions to help support the ministry. We just want to say thanks to those of you who have already made a donation.\u00a0 If you haven\u2019t made a donation yet this month, would you consider going online at FamilyLifeToday.com, click the button that says \u201cI CARE\u201d and make a donation online.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr call 1-800-FLTODAY; make a donation over the phone.\u00a0 Again, your donation\u2019s going to be matched dollar for dollar this month, so help us take full advantage if you would of this matching gift opportunity that has been made available to us.\u00a0 We just want to say thanks again in advance for your support of the ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend.\u00a0 Hope you and your family are able to worship together this Sunday.\u00a0 Hope you can join us on Monday, on Memorial Day, as we reflect on the legacy of men who have protected us and defended us in the military.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to look at some of those men who have been awarded the National Medal of Honor, coming up on Monday.\u00a0 We hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next week for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright \u00a9 2012 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302531","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302531"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302531"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302531"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302531"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302531"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302531"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302531"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}