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and I'm imagining a homeless person.\u00a0 This is my son who, as a little boy, was a flaming Christian.\u00a0 He loved God\u2014the sweetest little boy you can imagine.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen he turned 14\u2014just totally changed his appearance.\u00a0 He wasn't doing any drugs, yet; and he assures us of that, but he was starting to hang with kids who were experimenting with odd things like aerosols.\u00a0 There was this progression, then, of changes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe went into meth, and he totally disappeared off the radar screen.\u00a0 He went down so deep, so hard.\u00a0 We were in fear for his life, and we did not know where he was.\u00a0 Finally, he got arrested.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, November 11th.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife\u00ae, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Today, we will visit the valley of despair\u2014a valley many parents find themselves in when a teenager is using drugs.\u00a0 We'll also ascend the mountain of hope.\u00a0 Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 When you and Barbara wrote the book, <em>Parenting Today's Adolescent<\/em>, you identified certain traps that face teenagers.\u00a0 I remember one of them was drugs and alcohol abuse.\u00a0 When you were writing that, did you really understand how dangerous and deadly that trap is; do you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No.\u00a0 Now, that we've counseled and worked with a number of parents who have experienced drug and alcohol abuse among their children, especially during the teenage years and early adulthood, it's a crazy-maker.\u00a0 It creates all kinds of chaos in families.\u00a0 When this trap latches onto a child's life, it can be a matter of life and death.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0It does latch on.\u00a0 We are talking about something that is addictive, both from a physical standpoint and also from an emotional or psychological standpoint.\u00a0 This is what some have referred to as a \"besetting sin.\"\u00a0 It gets its claws in you, and it's tough to shake it loose.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That's right, and it breaks a mom's heart.\u00a0 We have two moms with us who have experienced this heartbreak firsthand.\u00a0 Kathy Pride and Melody Carlson join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Ladies and moms, welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know a little bit about the heartbreak because, Kathy, you've written a book, <em>Winning the Drug War at Home<\/em>.\u00a0 You had a son who used.\u00a0 Even though you weren't a Christian at the time, weren't a follower of Christ, you experienced the chaos that your son brought home along with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Total chaos.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014along with the drugs.\u00a0 Melody, you experienced the same thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You've written a book called <em>Lost Boys and the Mothers Who Love Them<\/em>.\u00a0 In fact, you co-authored that with a number of other moms.\u00a0 Your son, who was lost\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014became found.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>He did.\u00a0 It was a long journey, though.\u00a0 There were times when I just felt like it was <em>never<\/em> going to happen, and all I could do then was just pray.\u00a0 He started using, as we know, when he was about 17.\u00a0 Then, it was kind of up and down; and that was with marijuana.\u00a0 Marijuana, as we've mentioned, is a gateway drug.\u00a0 Of course, they act like it's not a gateway drug; but then, he slowly slipped into using the more serious drug of methamphetamines.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That's <em>highly<\/em> addictive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong><em>Highly<\/em> addictive.\u00a0 They say it is as addictive as heroin.\u00a0 Some people say it's more addictive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This is the one where you go get the cold medicine from the drugstore, and you can cook it up; is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Exactly.\u00a0 Our cold medicine is banned where we live now.\u00a0 I think, because we're in the West Coast, and we're on the I-5 corridor, it became more commonly used.\u00a0 It slowly sifted its way across the country.\u00a0 I do remember when I wrote the book called <em>Crystal Lies<\/em>, and I was promoting it\u2014that was about four years ago and doing interviews.\u00a0 Some people did not know what meth was\u2014methamphetamine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCrystal methamphetamines\u2014there are a lot of words for it\u2014crystal, ice.\u00a0 People weren't aware of it.\u00a0 Unfortunately, it's a very easy-to-make drug that anybody can make in their backyard, if they want to\u2014if they can get the right ingredients\u2014and you can find the recipe online.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Online.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So, your son went from marijuana use to starting to use meth\u2014and was a meth user for how long?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Off and on for about\u2014probably seven years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Wow.\u00a0 Some of that time, he's in the home.\u00a0 Some of that time, he is out of the home; but it's never \u201cnot something that you're aware of or thinking about;\u201d is it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I'm <em>always <\/em>aware of\u2014I'm <em>always<\/em> thinking about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There is not a day that you don't have in the back of your mind, \"I wonder if he's using today?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u201cI wonder if he's <em>alive <\/em>today,\u201d because when he would be in the home, it would be times when he was getting clean, working; he had done some form of rehab.\u00a0 We know rehab pretty well in and out.\u00a0 Then, he would get on his feet again, get into an apartment.\u00a0 Through the course of this time, he got married.\u00a0 They had a child.\u00a0 I have an adorable granddaughter who is so unscathed by any of this\u2014that it's just miraculous.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe held down some great jobs.\u00a0 When he is good, he's very, very good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But when they're bad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 It is horrid!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I want to just comment on that.\u00a0 Kathy, you can help us here.\u00a0 When the child enters the home (even as an adult), the abuse, in terms of relationships in the family, is absolutely horrific.\u00a0 Comment on that, if you would.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>The chaos\u2014even when they're good\u2014even when they're very good and in successful mode\u2014there is a shadow that follows them where one statement or one word can be a trigger for the parent in terms of a memory of a broken relationship, or a fight, or\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\u2014 or mistrust.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely, mistrust.\u00a0 When they're good, you're thinking, \"Well, I do <em>want<\/em> to support them.\u00a0 I do <em>want <\/em>to give them the benefit of the doubt.\"\u00a0 Yet, you're walking that tightrope of, \"Am I loving, supporting, and extending a hand of grace; or am I enabling?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>What about the relationship with other siblings?\u00a0 I mean, they can really be abusive there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, they can.\u00a0 I remember one time where Matt came in and was so angry that there was a Cinderella castle that belonged to his sisters, and he kicked it against the wall.\u00a0 The girls were in the room.\u00a0 They saw this just horrible destruction, and they remember that.\u00a0 They remember that anger.\u00a0 There is a tentativeness, even still, sometimes in their approach. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe relationship between husband and wife\u2014there was\u2014it was so important for us to co-parent on this and be together in our approach to Matt; but I did a lot of undermining, initially.\u00a0 I have to say that this could very well have been subtitled \"Confessions of a Control-Freak Mother.\"\u00a0 I would agree, up front, with my husband about how to approach a situation or how to approach the relationship; and he thought we were on the same page.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This absolutely drains the romance, the life, and can destroy the commitment in a marriage relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When do you feel like you can get to a point where you can say, \u201cI can sleep at night knowing this nightmare is over?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think it will be a long time.\u00a0 I will tell you that I am sleeping at night much better than I have been in years.\u00a0 That\u2019s because God has intervened in my son\u2019s life.\u00a0 That makes all the difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, there's the reason of mistrust.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2014and the history.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You've got years of the other behavior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 These young people earn the mistrust.\u00a0 Even though a parent's heart wants to trust, wants to hope, wants to love, wants to pursue, the child has this track record of deceit.\u00a0 A parent knows in his or her heart, \u201cYou dare not go there.\u201d\u00a0 You can't give that child 100 percent trust again quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong>\u00a0 They've dug themselves into a very deep hole, backed into a tight corner.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You mentioned that your son came to faith in Christ, well, recently.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>In rehab?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What took place?\u00a0 I mean, he actually had relapsed.\u00a0 So, you had to get him back into rehabilitation again.\u00a0 I think what our listeners need to know approximately\u2014and this is not a fun number.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, it's not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 80 percent relapse.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly, we have seen him relapse out of rehab twice already.\u00a0 Then, you know, up and down.\u00a0 He would say\u2014we would do the whole confrontation thing and get the whole family around him.\u00a0 He would get himself clean for a while.\u00a0 He would say, \"I can do this myself.\u00a0 I can do it myself.\u00a0 I know I can do it myself.\"\u00a0 There's really nothing you can do.\u00a0 You can't force his hand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he'd go through a stint of being clean, impressing us, and having the job.\u00a0 Then, he'd fall.\u00a0 Finally, his big fall was last summer.\u00a0 He went down so deep, so hard; we were in fear for his life.\u00a0 No one would hear from him.\u00a0 He went back into meth, and he totally disappeared off the radar screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You didn't know where he was?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We did not know where he was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Called the cell phone, no answer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 No, his cell phone was gone.\u00a0 He sold everything.\u00a0 He was a musician, also.\u00a0 He had some pretty fine music equipment.\u00a0 He sold everything, obviously, for drugs.\u00a0 We found out later he was staying with <em>friends<\/em>.\u00a0 You know, \u201cThat\u2019s great.\u201d I don't\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Did you think he was dead?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 There were times when I thought he was dead.\u00a0 Those were the times when I would have the middle-of-the-night, just that sick feeling.\u00a0 Then, we were going into fall.\u00a0 Where I live, it's a very extreme winter that will come on within the mountains.\u00a0 You know?\u00a0 I'm imagining a homeless person.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That's tough for a mom to think about; isn't it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh!\u00a0 It is painful!\u00a0 This is my younger son.\u00a0 This is my son who, as a little boy, was a flaming Christian.\u00a0 He loved God.\u00a0 He would pray for people to get healed.\u00a0 He would go and testify at school, in public school, about Jesus in his life\u2014the sweetest little boy you can imagine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn my office where I'm writing books\u2014writing is a great way to turn this off during the daytime.\u00a0 I have a little picture of him in the fourth grade, just these little buck teeth\u2014and just\u2014it was heartbreaking.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, we went through, I think, the hardest summer.\u00a0 Then, towards the end of the summer, he kind of showed up and asked for help.\u00a0 We were just sort of patching help onto him because we were so glad he was alive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 How low had he gone?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So low that he had meth sores all over him.\u00a0 Meth sores are like open lesions that will appear on the face because the meth chemical is so strong\u2014your body is trying to get it out.\u00a0 So, it just forces it to the surface of your body.\u00a0 It's like you're being poisoned.\u00a0 It looks worse than acne.\u00a0 It's a very\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Had he lost weight?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Lost weight\u2014skinny, gaunt.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They don't eat for days.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When he comes home, you said he was asking for help?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 He didn't come home.\u00a0 He called us and asked us for money.\u00a0 Well, of course, we're <em>not<\/em> going to give him money.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I was deep in a book project, and I just said to my husband, \u201cI was so glad to hear from him.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s like I wanted to drop everything.\u00a0 I said, \"Just <em>please<\/em> go meet with him.\u00a0 Just talk with him.\u00a0 Tell him we'll get him in rehab.\u00a0 We'll get him in rehab.\u00a0 That's all we can do.\"\u00a0 So, he met with him.\u00a0 Of course, we're still in the lie state; and my son says, \"I will do rehab.\"\u00a0 My husband says, \"You can't come home because we know you're using.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe drew the line, \"You cannot come home and use, but we'll put you up in a real sleazy-looking hotel.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, he's been living in worse places.\u00a0 So, my husband paid for a week at this sleazy hotel while we were trying to set up rehab.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, of course, then, we'd meet with him to get him to rehab; and he would be gone.\u00a0 He would be completely gone.\u00a0 This happened over and over for a period of weeks.\u00a0 Finally, he got arrested.\u00a0 He was in jail, and he wanted us to bail him out.\u00a0 We said, \"No, we're not going to.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I want to comment on that because the tendency for parents in these situations is to <em>rescue<\/em> from the penalty of the foolish choices.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's a mistake.\u00a0 I think God allows natural consequences in our lives, and being arrested is a <em>great<\/em> natural consequence.\u00a0 I'm <em>thankful<\/em> that he wasn't arrested for drugs because I think that would be harder to get out of\u2014although laws are changing and they're starting to prescribe rehab instead of jail time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When a user is in jail, he obviously can't be a user in jail.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That has to be a physically excruciating experience to be addicted and in jail, and you can't get your hands on your junk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, it's a forced detox.\u00a0 Anyway, he did that.\u00a0 Then, of course, then he was sorry; and he's really ready.\u00a0 He's been clean.\u00a0 So, we did bring him home.\u00a0 We live in an isolated enough place\u2014for him to get to town, it's like a three-mile walk, and he didn't have a car.\u00a0 So, we went ahead and\u2014you want to be God, you want to be gracious, you want to be the good Samaritan, you don't want to kick the traveler in the face and say, \"Tough luck, kid.\" \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we brought him home.\u00a0 We laid down the law.\u00a0 We said, \"We are going to get you into rehab.\"\u00a0 By then, we're going, \u201cIt's November; it's Thanksgiving, and his birthday is around the corner.\u201d\u00a0 He's like, \"Well, can I just stay home until Thanksgiving?\u00a0 Can I stay home until my birthday?\"\u00a0 Then, it's Christmas.\u00a0 The whole time we're on a waiting list\u2014and that's the hard thing about rehab.\u00a0 You've got the waiting list thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe place that he had decided that he wanted to go\u2014I just thank God for this\u2014was the place where my grandmother had been born.\u00a0 My grandmother and my son, they had shared the same birthday; and he had been very close to her.\u00a0 He just loved his Granny.\u00a0 She's passed away, long since.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAfter Christmas, he went, literally, dragging his heels.\u00a0 He actually\u2014we booked the flight.\u00a0 He was going in, and midway in the flight, he had a drinking binge.\u00a0 He hadn't been using at all; but he had a drinking binge, missed his flight.\u00a0 We thought, \"This is the end of it.\"\u00a0 All we'd given him was enough money for the taxi.\u00a0 It was a little bit of a ways to the rehab place and a phone card.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he called us on the phone card.\u00a0 I'm thinking\u2014but somehow\u2014I think this is really miraculous; because usually, if you miss a flight, that's it.\u00a0 Somehow they got him back on the plane.\u00a0 We didn't have to pay anything for it.\u00a0 He got to the place.\u00a0 Of course, he'd tried to stiff the cab driver because he didn't have any money, and we had to wire that to the rehab place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, he was there.\u00a0 I mean, that's how much he <em>didn't<\/em> want to go.\u00a0 He went there with long dreadlocks, pierced eyebrow\u2014he'd taken out all his other piercings, but he couldn't get the eyebrow out.\u00a0 They said no piercings because it's a very conservative, southern rehab.\u00a0 I'm talking very southern, Christian Baptist.\u00a0 Anyway, he's there and doesn't want to be there.\u00a0 I think two weeks into it, he just had an <em>amazing <\/em>conversion\u2014just knock you over\u2014like Saul.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Does he call you one night and say, \"Here is what happened?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>He wrote us a letter.\u00a0 He wrote everyone letters.\u00a0 The letters\u2014when I got the first one, I thought, \"Well, is he just trying to get out of it?\"\u00a0 By now, because he's been arrested, the law has said, \u201cIf he does rehab, we will wash this away.\u201d\u00a0 So, okay, this is what we're doing; so that was the pressure on him to go, too\u2014besides us.\u00a0 Besides, he knew his life had reached a really horrible place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he wrote everyone.\u00a0 He wrote his brother, he wrote us, he wrote his grandmother, his grandfather\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0These are long letters of, \"I'm sorry for all I've done\u2014\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201c\u2014and I've found Christ, and\u2014\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, and more than that.\u00a0 I mean, there are things that I'm thinking, \"If you're going to lie about this, if you're going to try to get out of it, it would have a certain sound to it.\"\u00a0 This had the ring of absolute truth.\u00a0 Yet, we didn't really want to believe it, we couldn't really believe it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, back to the mistrust thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 I know\u2014years and years of this, it just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It's hard to believe it's true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 Unfortunately, it was a 65-day treatment program.\u00a0 I would have\u2014that it had been longer.\u00a0 By the time he came home\u2014and we'd had lots of letters and conversations on the phone\u2014he sounded different.\u00a0 <em>Everything<\/em> was different, but you're still holding back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen he got home, he looked like a different person.\u00a0 I remember I was on another book trip; and so, I wasn't there when he got home.\u00a0 I came home, and we went out for breakfast in this small town (again, Christian community).\u00a0 We're sitting there in the place where we know half the people in the caf\u00e9; and<em> he<\/em> said, \"Do you mind if I pray, Mom and Dad?\"\u00a0 I'm like, \"No, go ahead.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, he really\u2014and he just does this prayer.\u00a0 I mean, I'm just about in tears.\u00a0 Then, we meet various people that he's known throughout the years\u2014people in the publishing industry that's there.\u00a0 He walks up to them, looks them directly in the eye, shakes their hand, and says, \"Hi,\" so-and-so, \"how are you doing?\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese people\u2014they've known Luke since he\u2014we moved there when he was 15.\u00a0 So, they're stunned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Melody, as a mom, you've been to the valley of the shadow of death.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I mean, you've gone to bed many nights, undoubtedly, in tears.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 To see this occurring before your eyes, emotionally, what was happening in your heart?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Melody:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, I'm <em>so <\/em>happy.\u00a0 Yet, I'm still waiting for the other shoe to fall because we have this <em>history<\/em> and that really\u2014it feels <em>terrible<\/em> to say that because it feels like a lack of faith, but it's also realism.\u00a0 So, at the same time as I'm feeling those feelings, I'm giving them to God.\u00a0 I'm just saying, \"Okay, God, You know what You are doing.\u00a0 I want to be faithful.\"\u00a0 Then, I'm praying for my son.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe immediately linked up.\u00a0 We've been Young Life supporters, on committee, and all that.\u00a0 He linked up with a Young Life guy, started helping with the middle school.\u00a0 It's called Wild Life\u2014just doing the car washes, doing everything, got a job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, no one could figure it out; I mean other than this is just a miracle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, regardless of what you're facing, Jesus is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kathy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He is who you need for forgiveness of sins, for eternal life, for hope, purpose, and wisdom to know how to navigate some difficult days.\u00a0 I just appreciate both of you being willing to take our listeners into your stories.\u00a0 I mean, this is incredibly personal, and the drama that surrounds this really demands a faith.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we're speaking to a mom, a dad, perhaps a brother, or sister who has been in this chaos, I would just point them to Psalm 34.\u00a0 There's three points that I make out of that Psalm:\u00a0 God is near; secondly, God hears our prayers; and, third, God rescues; He redeems.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we have to do in those situations is cry out to God with utter dependence upon Him.\u00a0 He doesn't promise He will rescue immediately.\u00a0 He doesn't promise He'll rescue your son or daughter instantly.\u00a0 In fact, you may be upset with God and His timetable in terms of why He does and how fast He does it; but He is God and we are not, and we're called to trust Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI appreciate both of you being on our broadcast and sharing your stories because, in many ways, you have embodied what that Psalm talks about\u2014and I just appreciate your books, too.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, as we think about couples going through a child who has a drug problem, those marriages really need to be protected.\u00a0 I'd like to encourage any couple who is going through something like this\u2014or maybe it's something else\u2014but the marriage is showing the signs of wear\u2014call FamilyLife.\u00a0 Get a brochure, and go to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>\u00ae.\u00a0 Those marriages need to have a game plan; they need to have the blueprints to know how to handle a valley like this that may last for a long time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 You need a weekend where you can focus on you, where you can kind of shut out everything else and just say, \"Okay, let's get our bearings.\u00a0 Let's reaffirm some things.\u00a0 Let's get on the same page\u2014\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right. Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201c\u2014and not think about our drug-dependent son or daughter; but let's think about us going the distance and how we get there.\u201d\u00a0 That's one of the things that I think can happen at our FamilyLife <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to encourage our listeners, go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 We still have a number of these getaways happening this fall.\u00a0 Of course, next spring, we\u2019ll be in more than \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t60 cities all across the country.\u00a0 You can find out when the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> is going to be in a city near you and make plans to go as a couple.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 That\u2019s FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, if you need more information.\u00a0 1-800-FLTODAY is the number, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That\u2019s 1-800 \u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then, the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Now, while you are on our website, you\u2019ll find information about Kathy Pride\u2019s book, which is called <em>Winning the Drug War at Home<\/em>.\u00a0 We have copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center.\u00a0 So, go online if you\u2019d like to have us send you a copy of that book.\u00a0 Again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and the book is called <em>Winning the Drug War at Home<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhile you are on our website, Dennis is right now working on a new book.\u00a0 Some of you know he wrote a book a number of years ago called <em>Interviewing Your Daughters Date<\/em> for dads, primarily, dads of teenage daughters.\u00a0 The book was well-received; but we also heard from parents of teenage sons saying, \u201cWe need some help because our sons are being pursued by <em>aggressive<\/em> girls.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis is working on that book right now.\u00a0 We\u2019d love to have you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and send us a note if there are particular issues that you\u2019d like to see Dennis address.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve had experience having a teenage boy\u2014with your son being pursued by girls\u2014we\u2019d love to hear your story and love to hear how you dealt with it, what you\u2019ve done, how you\u2019ve helped coach your son to be ready for girls who may be coming on to them, and how to deal with that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Click on the link that says, \u201cAggressive Girls.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019ll take you to the area of the site where you can leave us a note.\u00a0 We expect the book to be out sometime in the spring.\u00a0 Again, we\u2019d love to hear from you at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, a word of thanks to those of you who help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Your financial support is what makes this daily radio program possible.\u00a0 We couldn\u2019t do it without you.\u00a0 We really do appreciate your partnership with us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis week, if you can help with a donation to support the ministry, we\u2019d love to send you, as a thank-you gift, a book by Barbara Rainey.\u00a0 It\u2019s a devotional book for families.\u00a0 It\u2019s called <em>Growing Together in Gratitude<\/em>.\u00a0 Along with the book, we\u2019ll include a Thanksgiving prayer card.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is a great resource to have in time for your family\u2019s celebration of Thanksgiving.\u00a0 There are seven short stories that you can read leading up to Thanksgiving or over the Thanksgiving weekend.\u00a0 All of them are designed to promote the idea of gratitude and gratefulness in our hearts and in our children\u2019s hearts as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you make a donation online at FamilyLifeToday.com, look for the button that says, \u201cI Care.\u201d\u00a0 When you click that, you can make your online donation.\u00a0 We\u2019ll be sure to send you Barbara\u2019s book and the prayer card; or call 1-800-FLTODAY and make a donation over the phone.\u00a0 Just ask for a copy of Barbara\u2019s book when you call us and make that donation.\u00a0 Again, we appreciate your support of this ministry.\u00a0 It is great to have you as partners with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you have a great weekend.\u00a0 Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend.\u00a0 I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about how we should understand our emotions in light of what the Bible teaches us about how God has made us.\u00a0 Can we trust those emotions?\u00a0 Should we pay attention to them?\u00a0 Should we listen to them?\u00a0 What are they telling us?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that next week.\u00a0 Hope you can tune in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you.\u00a0 However, there is a cost to produce them for our website.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright \u00a9 2011 FamilyLife.\u00a0 All rights reserved.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/\">www.FamilyLife.com<\/a>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t1\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>","theme_header_position":"","post_header_is_sticky":"","is_header_overlay":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast\/302400","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=302400"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294104"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=302400"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=302400"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=302400"},{"taxonomy":"podcast_series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/podcast_series?post=302400"},{"taxonomy":"cwp_profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cwp_profile?post=302400"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=302400"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}