{"id":302295,"date":"2011-06-28T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-28T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/im-depressed\/"},"modified":"2011-06-28T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2011-06-28T15:00:00","slug":"im-depressed","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/im-depressed\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;I&#8217;m Depressed.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is depression?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2011-06-28.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"30.12M","filesize_raw":"31584979","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2873],"tags":[2872,4009,2607],"podcast_series":[7811],"cwp_profile":[3422,9004],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302295","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-mental-and-emotional-issues","tag-addiction","tag-depression","tag-stress","podcast_series-blame-it-on-the-brain","cwp_profile-david-powlison","cwp_profile-ed-welch","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302295\/im-depressed","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302295\/im-depressed","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"9xfQp7tnET\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/im-depressed\/\">&#8220;I&#8217;m Depressed.&#8221;<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/im-depressed\/embed\/#?secret=9xfQp7tnET\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;&#8220;I&#8217;m Depressed.&#8221;&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"9xfQp7tnET\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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chemical imbalance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Dr. Ed Welch is skeptical.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is no blood test that you can do with anybody with a psychiatric problem.\u00a0 So that's one thing to keep in mind.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing to keep in mind is that medication does not help as often as people think, and there is more and more research suggesting that -- that, indeed, some people do seem to be helped in the sense that some of the symptoms do seem to be alleviated, but there are a lot of people who don\u2019t seem to be helped by the medication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, June 28th.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Today we going ask some hard questions about what the Bible has to say about what may be going on in your brain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Bob, I never made it to prayer here at FamilyLife this morning because on my way to work I received a phone call from a friend.\u00a0 She was calling to get my advice about her husband.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt seems that her husband is depressed, and so depressed he doesn't want a relationship with her, doesn't want to talk about his problems, doesn't want to discuss why they don't have much of a relationship.\u00a0 All he's interesting in doing is sitting in front of the computer screen and playing computer games, doing searches on the Internet, and giving his life to his work and to his hobbies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as I talked about a possible solution, I couldn't help but think about the whole subject of depression and just wonder if the Christian community has really developed a healthy view of depression or do we have more of a medical view that's purely based upon the scientific community.\u00a0 Where is the balance for the Christian?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeginning yesterday we talked about a book called <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em>, which is talking about chemical imbalances, brain disorders and disobedience, all from a Christian perspective.\u00a0 We have with us the author of that book, Ed Welch, along with his associate from the Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation in Philadelphia, David Powlison.\u00a0 David, Ed, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you, Dennis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 David is the proud father of three children.\u00a0 He and his wife Nancy have been in the Philadelphia area for the past how many years?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Twenty-five years -- we're coming up on that anniversary.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You became a believer, actually, as an adult, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I did.\u00a0 I was almost 26 years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He has written a number of books; also a counselor at the CCEF.\u00a0 Ed Welch is also on the faculty, a counselor \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Excuse me, Dennis, I am the proud father of two daughters, okay?\u00a0 You had said he was the proud father of three, and I'm the proud father of two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was about to get to that.\u00a0 I was about to get to Lindsay and Lisa, is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Along with your wife Sharon.\u00a0 Yeah, we cut to the chase here and talk about what we're proud about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He wanted his most important credentials stated first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 Undoubtedly, when you wrote this book, Ed, you must have had in mind the subject of depression.\u00a0 This is a huge issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I suspect you've done a number of shows on it.\u00a0 People call it the common cold of mental problems.\u00a0 It is everywhere, there's no question.\u00a0 Just the sheer number of prescriptions for depression would indicate that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do we have a Christian worldview of depression, or is, for the most part, our view of depression that that has been developed by the medical community?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 That's a good question.\u00a0 It's interesting -- when you say the word \"depression\" you are usually using a psychiatric term.\u00a0 I think the problem with that particular term is it actually limits our understanding of the problem rather than expands our understanding.\u00a0 What it says is you have a chemical imbalance and need treatment.\u00a0 The best treatment is some sort of medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHowever, when we take a look at it from a biblical perspective, we tend to see a good bit more.\u00a0 Maybe there are some physical problems at the brain level, but what happens -- with the case that you were talking about, how does a Christian approach somebody like that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, you simply want to know this man, to study this man.\u00a0 What is it like for you?\u00a0 Where are you struggling?\u00a0 You simply want to come alongside of him.\u00a0 You have some sense already that he wants to avoid people; that there are difficulties in his life, and he's unwilling to turn to Christ or to other people for help.\u00a0 So you have some idea of what is going on already.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have another friend and, in his case, his wife has had a chronic problem with depression for more than 15 years, to the degree that some days she can't get out of bed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Rather than looking under the word \"depression\" in Scripture, perhaps a better way to begin the discussion would be to open the Scripture up more broadly and just say, \"Scripture, where do you speak to people who say 'I hurt.\u00a0 I hurt really, really, bad.'\"\u00a0 I mean, depression is saying more than that many times but at least, it's saying, \"I hurt.\"\u00a0 And to the comment \"I hurt,\" Scripture says all kinds of different things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When we talk about depression, sometimes we think of it in clinical terms.\u00a0 Sometimes we just think of it as that sense of feeling blue, you know, \"I'm not doing well today, I'm depressed.\u00a0 For some reason I'm down.\u00a0 Circumstances aren't going well, and so it has affected my mood.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when you hear about a person who can't get out of bed on certain days and who has struggled with depression for a 15-year period and who isn't choosing that feeling for himself or for herself, you do begin to wonder is there something going on internally, biochemically, something that a person can't get past the fog on?\u00a0 What are we to do with that kind of clinical sense of depression, David?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, we\u2019re asking this million dollar question and we\u2019re trying to put twenty-five cent answers.\u00a0 What we say will be little snatches and stabs, hopefully, in the right direction on that.\u00a0 Let me say a couple of things that strike me.\u00a0 One, her mood and the paralysis that she feels in light of it, is the dominant thing that jumps out from her life, but people have lots of other facets of their lives as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for example, I need to be equally interested in how is she doing as a mom?\u00a0 How does she define what makes life meaningful?\u00a0 Where does she find identity?\u00a0 I can think of many people with whom I've worked where similar types of patterns; they do grab your attention.\u00a0 Some, I'd say, are even more serious than what we've said.\u00a0 I mean, someone's suicidal, and so forth.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut invariably I've found with people, you know, things such as a person who has harbored bitterness.\u00a0 Now does solving bitterness mean all their depression will go away?\u00a0 No, but solving bitterness is extremely important, and it may well have ripple effects.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI've known many depressed people who had no living sense that God is gracious and that their sins were a bigger problem than their sufferings, and that He really loved them, and He was merciful to them.\u00a0 Often, people who are very legalistic and moralistic and feel like there is some ladder they have to climb in order to please God or make life right, and they're climbing up this ladder, and whether it's how your family turns out or what you look like, and they're failing, and they're depressed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can see how there are just some major rebuilding of the foundations of your identity.\u00a0 Is that going to necessarily solve all the feelings of feeling down?\u00a0 Not necessarily, but you can sure imagine it could have some huge ripple effects.\u00a0 And you could go on and on.\u00a0 I've just hit a couple.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople for whom fear of man paralyzes them; perhaps that man in front of the computer screen -- I would hazard a guess there must be some problem in his life.\u00a0 Maybe there's difficulty at work; maybe he and his wife had a big fight; maybe he had an affair, I don't know.\u00a0 But there is something he's running from, something he's finding a refuge in that video game.\u00a0 It's his tiny, controllable, feel-good world in a big world that's gone amuck and is very frightening.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are all kinds of things that we, as Christians, can say and do into that world.\u00a0 There are all kinds of Scripture that speaks to a man to invite him to come out into the light.\u00a0 Let's try to take this apart; let's try to put it back together.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 David, Ed, you two gentlemen both are counselors, right?\u00a0 Ed, you've done a great deal of research into neurological studies, right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You've seen a number of people who have been depressed who have come into your clinic there in Philadelphia.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What percent of those folks do you help move from being controlled by depression to becoming healthy spiritually?\u00a0 I'm not saying they are totally healed from \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 No vulnerability to a blue mood , things like that \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right, but what percent of them are you able to truly help move to -- and I hate to call it the victorious Christian life -- that seems so trite, but to growth and to becoming a follower of Christ so they are able to get out of the bed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 If people are submissive to the Word of God, we see everybody grow, absolutely everybody.\u00a0 But, Dennis, I think you're raising an interesting question, what does change actually look like?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are some people -- change, I believe, for them looks like they still feel depressed.\u00a0 They still feel this sense of blueness, or worse, in the midst of their life.\u00a0 But they are able to turn to Christ in the midst of it; they're able to consider others as more important than themselves \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 they're able to function \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 they're able to love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Raise their kids, go to dinner, go to work, love people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 But they would still say that they feel depressed quite a bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you're saying there may be some people who somehow, in the way that God wired them or the circumstances that have been a part of their life or the combination of those things -- they may live life in a less happy mood than other people will -- that's just kind of their lot, and they need to learn how to function in faith with that as their life experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think we would probably say that the norm for the victorious Christian life is a life that turns to Christ in the midst of ongoing hardships.\u00a0 That's the norm -- where faith does not feel real good.\u00a0 It does not feel like this jolt of caffeine.\u00a0 It's just plain hard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Part of my context for even the discussion on this -- I mentioned yesterday my dad being diagnosed when I was in high school with manic depression.\u00a0 I guess it's the same thing as what's called bipolar disorder today.\u00a0 Are those the same kinds of things?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mm-hm, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was in the hospital for three weeks, and I remember the doctor explaining, \u201cHere's what the problem is.\u00a0 Your dad has a low level of lithium in his blood chemistry, and we need to adjust the level of lithium, and when we do, we'll get it to a point where it will even out his moods.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the way it was with my dad, we didn\u2019t see the depression as often as we saw the manic side of things, where he was just doing grandiose behavior, just stuff that was really strange, you know?\u00a0 Well, Dad came home from the hospital after about a three-week period, and he had his prescription for lithium.\u00a0 I've got to tell you, I remember, for the first couple of months, Dad was pretty flat.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you think that was good or not so good?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you know, there was part of me, as a teenager, going, \"At least he's not doing the grandiose manic behavior.\"\u00a0 Would I rather have him kind of flatlined and sitting in a chair reading and doing crossword puzzles, or would I rather have him embarrassing me? \u201c\u00a0 The crossword puzzles were a better solution, but it wasn\u2019t like I had Dad there, you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOver time, he adjusted, but he took lithium for the rest of his life until he died.\u00a0 It did seem to affect his behavior.\u00a0 Now, I'm not saying that it ever got to some of the real heart issues that may have been present in my dad's life.\u00a0 Undoubtedly there were issues there that never got explored, but that treatment did seem to balance out his personality.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a Christian, should we say we need to examine both what may be there medically and what's there spiritually?\u00a0 Do we put emphasis on one or the other?\u00a0 How would you counsel somebody who comes to you and says, \"Here are the symptoms, I want this thing as fixed as I can get it.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould you tell them, \"Go get a prescription and let's keep talking about the spiritual issues?\"\u00a0 What would you do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, as a counselor, believe it or not, I've been counseling for over 20 years, and I've had very, very few people who ever asked the question, \"Should I take medication?\"\u00a0 They're already taking medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they have a hint of these kinds of problems, they know, from the advertisements, from their next-door neighbor, that these medications are available.\u00a0 So we typically, as Christian counselors, will see people already taking medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are two principles that I might want to underline.\u00a0 One is that there is no test that can demonstrate a chemical imbalance.\u00a0 That's a theory.\u00a0 There is no blood test that you can do with anybody with a psychiatric problem that actually demonstrates it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0So when they said my dad's lithium level was low, it wasn't because they looked under a microscope with his blood and said, \"Look, there, the lithium is low.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was a hypothesis that came out of their worldview.\u00a0 Correct.\u00a0 So that's one thing to keep in mind.\u00a0 The other thing to keep in mind is that medication does not help as often as people think, and there's more and more research suggesting that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, indeed, some people do seem to be helped, in the sense, not that all of a sudden, they're brilliant spiritual people but some of the symptoms do seem to be alleviated.\u00a0 That\u2019s true, that some people are helped, but there are a lot of people who don\u2019t seem to be helped by the medication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me give a different story that I think brings out a different side.\u00a0 A man came to see me.\u00a0 He\u2019d had three episodes \u2013 just real high, then hit the skids, profound depression, mental hospital, slow climb out.\u00a0 In the process of getting to know him, the natural question is \u201cWell, what was going on at the times when you flipped out?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, it\u2019s very interesting.\u00a0 The first time was a week after I got married, and the second time was a week after the birth of my first child, and the third time was a week after the birth of my second child.\u201d\u00a0 Now you look at that and you think, \u201cThat isn\u2019t quite like a disease.\u00a0 Malaria or cancer don\u2019t work that way.\u00a0 There\u2019s something in this about how this man processes life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can be agnostic.\u00a0 Why does he go nutty that way where I would go nutty a different way?\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t think I\u2019ll ever be manic.\u00a0 But if I cracked up, I\u2019d crack up a different way.\u00a0 But why then?\u00a0 Why one week after those events?\u00a0 He didn\u2019t have the kids, after all.\u00a0 His wife did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd again, what Ed has said about broadening out what you do, normalizing the abnormal.\u00a0 As I got to know him, it became clear that two of the dominant themes that ran through his entire life were that he was a man that was extremely lazy and just loved comfort, and he was a man that was extremely controlling and everything had to play by his rules.\u00a0 Well, let me tell you.\u00a0 If you live for comfort and for being controlling, don\u2019t get married . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And don\u2019t have kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 . . . and don\u2019t have kids.\u00a0 I would not want to be pushed to say there\u2019s a one-to-one correlation where those idolatrous desires completely decide why he got nutty, but I sure find that provocative.\u00a0 If he is able to grow before Christ in the areas of being controlling and lazy, could it be that the next time a life stressor comes in he will not react the same way that he did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I lost touch with him eventually, but it seemed like as he grew it actually undercut the very dynamic that sort of pushed him to lose it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, as I think back on what we\u2019ve talked about today and think about my experience with my dad, the thing that I have regretted often was that after he got his lithium prescription, we looked and that and said, \u201cWell, good.\u00a0 He\u2019s better now.\u00a0 He\u2019s fixed.\u00a0 He\u2019s cured.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNobody ever did the heart work that we\u2019ve talked about here today, the heart work that you\u2019ve talked about, that says, \u201cLet\u2019s dig underneath the surface and see \u2013 are there spiritual issues?\u00a0 Are there emotional issues that may be triggering some of these episodes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think ultimately that\u2019s the message of what we\u2019ve talked about today and the message that\u2019s in Ed\u2019s book.\u00a0 That is, don\u2019t be satisfied with something that covers over the issue, and don\u2019t think that just because the behavior is moderated that the issue is dealt with.\u00a0 It\u2019s incumbent on us to look below the surface and to say, \u201cAre there sin issues that need to be dealt with in a person\u2019s life?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I say that, and I want to be very careful.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want the folks who are dealing with depression or with bipolar to go, \u201cOh, you\u2019re saying it\u2019s all sin.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m saying there\u2019s a lot of sin in my life that needs to be dealt with and there probably is in yours as well, and the correlation between depression or bipolar and your sin is something that ought to be examined for your own sake.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one of the most important points that we've talked about today that is clearly a biblical point, and that is that all of us are called to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to His Word in the midst of suffering.\u00a0 Some of that suffering may be emotional.\u00a0 Some of that suffering may be dealing with discouragement, depression, a blue mood, for an extended period of time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of that suffering may mean dealing with issues like bipolar or being married to someone who is depressed, discouraged, or bipolar.\u00a0 The bottom line is that in the midst of our suffering, we are still called to be obedient to the Scriptures and to be a part of the redemptive process of trusting Christ in our own lives for the circumstances, but also being redemptive with our spouses and with our children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m looking at an email here.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have time to read it, but it\u2019s about a sixteen-and-a-half-year-old who was molested and raped evidently, growing up.\u00a0 And she\u2019s been depressed most of her life.\u00a0 This little girl didn\u2019t ask for those things to happen, but you know, now that they have happened, she\u2019s got to process it.\u00a0 She has to deal with those issues biblically.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 And those events are depressing by definition.\u00a0 You shouldn\u2019t feel happy and gay by having events like that happen.\u00a0 So the feeling of sorrow and loss and confusion is a natural feeling.\u00a0 Now, exactly as you\u2019ve said, she needs to be able to look at all of that and find a way to process it.\u00a0 One would presume that if she really does grow, there\u2019s going to be ripple effects that affect her mood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0 And again, we\u2019re not minimizing that people are hurting and that they don\u2019t need encouragement and hope.\u00a0 I hope that\u2019s what this program has been all about, coming alongside folks and I wish I could reach through the radio at a point or two and put my arm around someone and say, \u201cGo ahead and take the step you need to take toward the Scriptures and toward Christ.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019re hoping that not only the conversations we\u2019re having this week can be helpful, but that if folks will get a copy of Dr. Welch\u2019s book, <em>Blame It on the Brain,<\/em> it can help them understand the issues they\u2019re dealing with better, but also help them understand that you need to look not only at the medical side \u2013 and it\u2019s important that you do that \u2013 but also look at the spiritual side of what may be going on with some of these issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, Dr. Welch is going to be back with us in a couple of weeks.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk more about the issue of depression coming up here in a few weeks on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re going to go a little deeper into that subject.\u00a0 But if you\u2019d like to get a copy of the book <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em> by Dr. Ed Welch, go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s information about how to order a copy of the book online.\u00a0 Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 There is also a link there that will take you to the CCEF website and you can find out more about the upcoming national conference being hosted in Louisville, Kentucky.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation is going to be hosting its annual conference, and this year this issue of psychiatric disorders is the central theme of the event.\u00a0 So again, if you\u2019d like to find out more about that, go online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also reach us by phone.\u00a0 Our number is 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Again, if you\u2019re interested in a copy of Dr. Welch\u2019s book <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em>, call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and we\u2019ll let you know how you can get a copy of the book sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I know some of you who are listening to our program this week may be new listeners to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and you\u2019re hearing us talk about a pretty complex issue, and one that can be a source of controversy among Christians.\u00a0 The reason that we\u2019re tackling this subject is because it has a very real impact in marriages and families, so we wanted to spend some time looking at how we can help husbands and wives and moms and dads when these kinds of issues emerge in a relationship.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFamilyLife is committed to providing practical, biblical help for your marriage and for your family.\u00a0 I know, again, sometimes when issues like this surface, one of the questions people find themselves asking is \u201cHow can this be happening to me if God really is good, and if he cares about me?\u00a0 If God is really good, why do we hurt?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur friend, Randy Alcorn, answered that question in a booklet called <em>If God is Good, Why Do We Hurt?,<\/em> and this week we want to send a copy of that booklet to you.\u00a0 All you have to do is call or go online and request a copy.\u00a0 Again, new listeners, go to FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Ask for your copy of the booklet, <em>If God is Good, Why Do We Hurt?<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re sending it out this week at no cost.\u00a0 All you have to do is request it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, our website: FamilyLifeToday.com, and our toll-free number is 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 We hope you\u2019ll find this booklet helpful, and we appreciate you tuning in and listening to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to encourage you to join us back tomorrow when we want to spend some time talking about Attention Deficit Disorder, hyperactivity, and how we should understand those subjects, and are there spiritual issues going on there that need to be addressed.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to 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is depression?","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2011-06-28.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 People who today might manifest a variety of psychological symptoms are often diagnosed these days as having a chemical imbalance in the brain.\u00a0 Can we be sure that's really what's going on?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is no test that can demonstrate a chemical imbalance.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Dr. Ed Welch is skeptical.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 There is no blood test that you can do with anybody with a psychiatric problem.\u00a0 So that's one thing to keep in mind.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing to keep in mind is that medication does not help as often as people think, and there is more and more research suggesting that -- that, indeed, some people do seem to be helped in the sense that some of the symptoms do seem to be alleviated, but there are a lot of people who don\u2019t seem to be helped by the medication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, June 28th.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Today we going ask some hard questions about what the Bible has to say about what may be going on in your brain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Bob, I never made it to prayer here at FamilyLife this morning because on my way to work I received a phone call from a friend.\u00a0 She was calling to get my advice about her husband.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt seems that her husband is depressed, and so depressed he doesn't want a relationship with her, doesn't want to talk about his problems, doesn't want to discuss why they don't have much of a relationship.\u00a0 All he's interesting in doing is sitting in front of the computer screen and playing computer games, doing searches on the Internet, and giving his life to his work and to his hobbies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as I talked about a possible solution, I couldn't help but think about the whole subject of depression and just wonder if the Christian community has really developed a healthy view of depression or do we have more of a medical view that's purely based upon the scientific community.\u00a0 Where is the balance for the Christian?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeginning yesterday we talked about a book called <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em>, which is talking about chemical imbalances, brain disorders and disobedience, all from a Christian perspective.\u00a0 We have with us the author of that book, Ed Welch, along with his associate from the Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation in Philadelphia, David Powlison.\u00a0 David, Ed, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you, Dennis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thanks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 David is the proud father of three children.\u00a0 He and his wife Nancy have been in the Philadelphia area for the past how many years?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Twenty-five years -- we're coming up on that anniversary.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You became a believer, actually, as an adult, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I did.\u00a0 I was almost 26 years old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He has written a number of books; also a counselor at the CCEF.\u00a0 Ed Welch is also on the faculty, a counselor \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Excuse me, Dennis, I am the proud father of two daughters, okay?\u00a0 You had said he was the proud father of three, and I'm the proud father of two.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was about to get to that.\u00a0 I was about to get to Lindsay and Lisa, is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay, thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Along with your wife Sharon.\u00a0 Yeah, we cut to the chase here and talk about what we're proud about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He wanted his most important credentials stated first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 Undoubtedly, when you wrote this book, Ed, you must have had in mind the subject of depression.\u00a0 This is a huge issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I suspect you've done a number of shows on it.\u00a0 People call it the common cold of mental problems.\u00a0 It is everywhere, there's no question.\u00a0 Just the sheer number of prescriptions for depression would indicate that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Do we have a Christian worldview of depression, or is, for the most part, our view of depression that that has been developed by the medical community?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 That's a good question.\u00a0 It's interesting -- when you say the word \"depression\" you are usually using a psychiatric term.\u00a0 I think the problem with that particular term is it actually limits our understanding of the problem rather than expands our understanding.\u00a0 What it says is you have a chemical imbalance and need treatment.\u00a0 The best treatment is some sort of medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHowever, when we take a look at it from a biblical perspective, we tend to see a good bit more.\u00a0 Maybe there are some physical problems at the brain level, but what happens -- with the case that you were talking about, how does a Christian approach somebody like that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, you simply want to know this man, to study this man.\u00a0 What is it like for you?\u00a0 Where are you struggling?\u00a0 You simply want to come alongside of him.\u00a0 You have some sense already that he wants to avoid people; that there are difficulties in his life, and he's unwilling to turn to Christ or to other people for help.\u00a0 So you have some idea of what is going on already.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have another friend and, in his case, his wife has had a chronic problem with depression for more than 15 years, to the degree that some days she can't get out of bed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Rather than looking under the word \"depression\" in Scripture, perhaps a better way to begin the discussion would be to open the Scripture up more broadly and just say, \"Scripture, where do you speak to people who say 'I hurt.\u00a0 I hurt really, really, bad.'\"\u00a0 I mean, depression is saying more than that many times but at least, it's saying, \"I hurt.\"\u00a0 And to the comment \"I hurt,\" Scripture says all kinds of different things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 When we talk about depression, sometimes we think of it in clinical terms.\u00a0 Sometimes we just think of it as that sense of feeling blue, you know, \"I'm not doing well today, I'm depressed.\u00a0 For some reason I'm down.\u00a0 Circumstances aren't going well, and so it has affected my mood.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut when you hear about a person who can't get out of bed on certain days and who has struggled with depression for a 15-year period and who isn't choosing that feeling for himself or for herself, you do begin to wonder is there something going on internally, biochemically, something that a person can't get past the fog on?\u00a0 What are we to do with that kind of clinical sense of depression, David?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, we\u2019re asking this million dollar question and we\u2019re trying to put twenty-five cent answers.\u00a0 What we say will be little snatches and stabs, hopefully, in the right direction on that.\u00a0 Let me say a couple of things that strike me.\u00a0 One, her mood and the paralysis that she feels in light of it, is the dominant thing that jumps out from her life, but people have lots of other facets of their lives as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for example, I need to be equally interested in how is she doing as a mom?\u00a0 How does she define what makes life meaningful?\u00a0 Where does she find identity?\u00a0 I can think of many people with whom I've worked where similar types of patterns; they do grab your attention.\u00a0 Some, I'd say, are even more serious than what we've said.\u00a0 I mean, someone's suicidal, and so forth.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut invariably I've found with people, you know, things such as a person who has harbored bitterness.\u00a0 Now does solving bitterness mean all their depression will go away?\u00a0 No, but solving bitterness is extremely important, and it may well have ripple effects.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI've known many depressed people who had no living sense that God is gracious and that their sins were a bigger problem than their sufferings, and that He really loved them, and He was merciful to them.\u00a0 Often, people who are very legalistic and moralistic and feel like there is some ladder they have to climb in order to please God or make life right, and they're climbing up this ladder, and whether it's how your family turns out or what you look like, and they're failing, and they're depressed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can see how there are just some major rebuilding of the foundations of your identity.\u00a0 Is that going to necessarily solve all the feelings of feeling down?\u00a0 Not necessarily, but you can sure imagine it could have some huge ripple effects.\u00a0 And you could go on and on.\u00a0 I've just hit a couple.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople for whom fear of man paralyzes them; perhaps that man in front of the computer screen -- I would hazard a guess there must be some problem in his life.\u00a0 Maybe there's difficulty at work; maybe he and his wife had a big fight; maybe he had an affair, I don't know.\u00a0 But there is something he's running from, something he's finding a refuge in that video game.\u00a0 It's his tiny, controllable, feel-good world in a big world that's gone amuck and is very 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Christ in the midst of it; they're able to consider others as more important than themselves \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 they're able to function \u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u2026 they're able to love.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Raise their kids, go to dinner, go to work, love people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 But they would still say that they feel depressed quite a bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So you're saying there may be some people who somehow, in the way that God wired them or the circumstances that have been a part of their life or the combination of those things -- they may live life in a less happy mood than other people will -- that's just kind of their lot, and they need to learn how to function in faith with that as their life experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think we would probably say that the norm for the victorious Christian life is a life that turns to Christ in the midst of ongoing hardships.\u00a0 That's the norm -- where faith does not feel real good.\u00a0 It does not feel like this jolt of caffeine.\u00a0 It's just plain hard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Part of my context for even the discussion on this -- I mentioned yesterday my dad being diagnosed when I was in high school with manic depression.\u00a0 I guess it's the same thing as what's called bipolar disorder today.\u00a0 Are those the same kinds of things?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Mm-hm, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He was in the hospital for three weeks, and I remember the doctor explaining, \u201cHere's what the problem is.\u00a0 Your dad has a low level of lithium in his blood chemistry, and we need to adjust the level of lithium, and when we do, we'll get it to a point where it will even out his moods.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd the way it was with my dad, we didn\u2019t see the depression as often as we saw the manic side of things, where he was just doing grandiose behavior, just stuff that was really strange, you know?\u00a0 Well, Dad came home from the hospital after about a three-week period, and he had his prescription for lithium.\u00a0 I've got to tell you, I remember, for the first couple of months, Dad was pretty flat.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did you think that was good or not so good?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, you know, there was part of me, as a teenager, going, \"At least he's not doing the grandiose manic behavior.\"\u00a0 Would I rather have him kind of flatlined and sitting in a chair reading and doing crossword puzzles, or would I rather have him embarrassing me? \u201c\u00a0 The crossword puzzles were a better solution, but it wasn\u2019t like I had Dad there, you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOver time, he adjusted, but he took lithium for the rest of his life until he died.\u00a0 It did seem to affect his behavior.\u00a0 Now, I'm not saying that it ever got to some of the real heart issues that may have been present in my dad's life.\u00a0 Undoubtedly there were issues there that never got explored, but that treatment did seem to balance out his personality.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a Christian, should we say we need to examine both what may be there medically and what's there spiritually?\u00a0 Do we put emphasis on one or the other?\u00a0 How would you counsel somebody who comes to you and says, \"Here are the symptoms, I want this thing as fixed as I can get it.\"\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould you tell them, \"Go get a prescription and let's keep talking about the spiritual issues?\"\u00a0 What would you do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, as a counselor, believe it or not, I've been counseling for over 20 years, and I've had very, very few people who ever asked the question, \"Should I take medication?\"\u00a0 They're already taking medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they have a hint of these kinds of problems, they know, from the advertisements, from their next-door neighbor, that these medications are available.\u00a0 So we typically, as Christian counselors, will see people already taking medication.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are two principles that I might want to underline.\u00a0 One is that there is no test that can demonstrate a chemical imbalance.\u00a0 That's a theory.\u00a0 There is no blood test that you can do with anybody with a psychiatric problem that actually demonstrates it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0So when they said my dad's lithium level was low, it wasn't because they looked under a microscope with his blood and said, \"Look, there, the lithium is low.\"\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ed:<\/strong>\u00a0 It was a hypothesis that came out of their worldview.\u00a0 Correct.\u00a0 So that's one thing to keep in mind.\u00a0 The other thing to keep in mind is that medication does not help as often as people think, and there's more and more research suggesting that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, indeed, some people do seem to be helped, in the sense, not that all of a sudden, they're brilliant spiritual people but some of the symptoms do seem to be alleviated.\u00a0 That\u2019s true, that some people are helped, but there are a lot of people who don\u2019t seem to be helped by the medication.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 Let me give a different story that I think brings out a different side.\u00a0 A man came to see me.\u00a0 He\u2019d had three episodes \u2013 just real high, then hit the skids, profound depression, mental hospital, slow climb out.\u00a0 In the process of getting to know him, the natural question is \u201cWell, what was going on at the times when you flipped out?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, it\u2019s very interesting.\u00a0 The first time was a week after I got married, and the second time was a week after the birth of my first child, and the third time was a week after the birth of my second child.\u201d\u00a0 Now you look at that and you think, \u201cThat isn\u2019t quite like a disease.\u00a0 Malaria or cancer don\u2019t work that way.\u00a0 There\u2019s something in this about how this man processes life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can be agnostic.\u00a0 Why does he go nutty that way where I would go nutty a different way?\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t think I\u2019ll ever be manic.\u00a0 But if I cracked up, I\u2019d crack up a different way.\u00a0 But why then?\u00a0 Why one week after those events?\u00a0 He didn\u2019t have the kids, after all.\u00a0 His wife did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd again, what Ed has said about broadening out what you do, normalizing the abnormal.\u00a0 As I got to know him, it became clear that two of the dominant themes that ran through his entire life were that he was a man that was extremely lazy and just loved comfort, and he was a man that was extremely controlling and everything had to play by his rules.\u00a0 Well, let me tell you.\u00a0 If you live for comfort and for being controlling, don\u2019t get married . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And don\u2019t have kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 . . . and don\u2019t have kids.\u00a0 I would not want to be pushed to say there\u2019s a one-to-one correlation where those idolatrous desires completely decide why he got nutty, but I sure find that provocative.\u00a0 If he is able to grow before Christ in the areas of being controlling and lazy, could it be that the next time a life stressor comes in he will not react the same way that he did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I lost touch with him eventually, but it seemed like as he grew it actually undercut the very dynamic that sort of pushed him to lose it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, as I think back on what we\u2019ve talked about today and think about my experience with my dad, the thing that I have regretted often was that after he got his lithium prescription, we looked and that and said, \u201cWell, good.\u00a0 He\u2019s better now.\u00a0 He\u2019s fixed.\u00a0 He\u2019s cured.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNobody ever did the heart work that we\u2019ve talked about here today, the heart work that you\u2019ve talked about, that says, \u201cLet\u2019s dig underneath the surface and see \u2013 are there spiritual issues?\u00a0 Are there emotional issues that may be triggering some of these episodes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think ultimately that\u2019s the message of what we\u2019ve talked about today and the message that\u2019s in Ed\u2019s book.\u00a0 That is, don\u2019t be satisfied with something that covers over the issue, and don\u2019t think that just because the behavior is moderated that the issue is dealt with.\u00a0 It\u2019s incumbent on us to look below the surface and to say, \u201cAre there sin issues that need to be dealt with in a person\u2019s life?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I say that, and I want to be very careful.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want the folks who are dealing with depression or with bipolar to go, \u201cOh, you\u2019re saying it\u2019s all sin.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m saying there\u2019s a lot of sin in my life that needs to be dealt with and there probably is in yours as well, and the correlation between depression or bipolar and your sin is something that ought to be examined for your own sake.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think one of the most important points that we've talked about today that is clearly a biblical point, and that is that all of us are called to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to His Word in the midst of suffering.\u00a0 Some of that suffering may be emotional.\u00a0 Some of that suffering may be dealing with discouragement, depression, a blue mood, for an extended period of time.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of that suffering may mean dealing with issues like bipolar or being married to someone who is depressed, discouraged, or bipolar.\u00a0 The bottom line is that in the midst of our suffering, we are still called to be obedient to the Scriptures and to be a part of the redemptive process of trusting Christ in our own lives for the circumstances, but also being redemptive with our spouses and with our children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m looking at an email here.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have time to read it, but it\u2019s about a sixteen-and-a-half-year-old who was molested and raped evidently, growing up.\u00a0 And she\u2019s been depressed most of her life.\u00a0 This little girl didn\u2019t ask for those things to happen, but you know, now that they have happened, she\u2019s got to process it.\u00a0 She has to deal with those issues biblically.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 And those events are depressing by definition.\u00a0 You shouldn\u2019t feel happy and gay by having events like that happen.\u00a0 So the feeling of sorrow and loss and confusion is a natural feeling.\u00a0 Now, exactly as you\u2019ve said, she needs to be able to look at all of that and find a way to process it.\u00a0 One would presume that if she really does grow, there\u2019s going to be ripple effects that affect her mood.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0 And again, we\u2019re not minimizing that people are hurting and that they don\u2019t need encouragement and hope.\u00a0 I hope that\u2019s what this program has been all about, coming alongside folks and I wish I could reach through the radio at a point or two and put my arm around someone and say, \u201cGo ahead and take the step you need to take toward the Scriptures and toward Christ.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019re hoping that not only the conversations we\u2019re having this week can be helpful, but that if folks will get a copy of Dr. Welch\u2019s book, <em>Blame It on the Brain,<\/em> it can help them understand the issues they\u2019re dealing with better, but also help them understand that you need to look not only at the medical side \u2013 and it\u2019s important that you do that \u2013 but also look at the spiritual side of what may be going on with some of these issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, Dr. Welch is going to be back with us in a couple of weeks.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk more about the issue of depression coming up here in a few weeks on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re going to go a little deeper into that subject.\u00a0 But if you\u2019d like to get a copy of the book <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em> by Dr. Ed Welch, go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s information about how to order a copy of the book online.\u00a0 Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 There is also a link there that will take you to the CCEF website and you can find out more about the upcoming national conference being hosted in Louisville, Kentucky.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation is going to be hosting its annual conference, and this year this issue of psychiatric disorders is the central theme of the event.\u00a0 So again, if you\u2019d like to find out more about that, go online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also reach us by phone.\u00a0 Our number is 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Again, if you\u2019re interested in a copy of Dr. Welch\u2019s book <em>Blame It on the Brain<\/em>, call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-F-as-in-family, L-as-in-life, and then the word TODAY, and we\u2019ll let you know how you can get a copy of the book sent to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I know some of you who are listening to our program this week may be new listeners to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and you\u2019re hearing us talk about a pretty complex issue, and one that can be a source of controversy among Christians.\u00a0 The reason that we\u2019re tackling this subject is because it has a very real impact in marriages and families, so we wanted to spend some time looking at how we can help husbands and wives and moms and dads when these kinds of issues emerge in a relationship.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFamilyLife is committed to providing practical, biblical help for your marriage and for your family.\u00a0 I know, again, sometimes when issues like this surface, one of the questions people find themselves asking is \u201cHow can this be happening to me if God really is good, and if he cares about me?\u00a0 If God is really good, why do we hurt?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur friend, Randy Alcorn, answered that question in a booklet called <em>If God is Good, Why Do We Hurt?,<\/em> and this week we want to send a copy of that booklet to you.\u00a0 All you have to do is call or go online and request a copy.\u00a0 Again, new listeners, go to FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 Ask for your copy of the booklet, <em>If God is Good, Why Do We Hurt?<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>We\u2019re sending it out this week at no cost.\u00a0 All you have to do is request it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, our website: FamilyLifeToday.com, and our toll-free number is 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 We hope you\u2019ll find this booklet helpful, and we appreciate you tuning in and listening to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we want to encourage you to join us back tomorrow when we want to spend some time talking about Attention Deficit Disorder, hyperactivity, and how we should understand those subjects, and are there spiritual issues going on there that need to be addressed.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas, a ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ. 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