{"id":302143,"date":"2010-11-03T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-11-03T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth\/"},"modified":"2010-11-03T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-11-03T15:00:00","slug":"courage-that-speaks-the-truth","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"Courage That Speaks the Truth"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sometimes it takes courage to speak up.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-11-03.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"23.94M","filesize_raw":"25099077","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2850],"tags":[4829],"podcast_series":[7765],"cwp_profile":[3052],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302143","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-character-development","tag-courage","podcast_series-growing-together-in-courage","cwp_profile-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302143\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302143\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"90Ng18L07s\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth\/\">Courage That Speaks the Truth<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/courage-that-speaks-the-truth\/embed\/#?secret=90Ng18L07s\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Courage That Speaks the Truth&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"90Ng18L07s\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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he said a lot of things well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here\u2019s a woman who said, \u201cCourage doesn\u2019t always roar; sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says, \u2018I\u2019ll try again tomorrow.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 One of my favorite quotes on courage says, \u201cSometimes the most courageous thing is to simply get out of bed in the morning.\u201d\u00a0 I used to love that as a mom, because there were so many times I wanted to pull the covers over my head and say, \u201cNo, I\u2019m not ready to get up and deal with this yet.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But then you looked across the bed and found I had already done that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 What?\u00a0 Buried yourself in the covers?\u00a0 (Laughter) \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here is a quote from C.S. Lewis:\u00a0 \u201cCourage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Very good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And Andrew Jackson:\u00a0 \u201cOne man with courage makes a majority.\u201d\u00a0 Of course, it made me think of a movie I saw years ago on the life of Stonewall Jackson, the movie <em>Gods and Generals<\/em>.\u00a0 This is apparently true of Jackson:\u00a0 He was always seen in the middle of battle on his horse, bullets whizzing past his head.\u00a0 Somebody asked him one time, \u201cHow do you keep your composure out there on the battlefield?\u201d\u00a0 He stopped and he said, \u201cSir, my theology persuades me that if I am in the will of God, I am as safe on the battlefield as I am in my bed.\u00a0 So I don\u2019t worry about it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s pretty good theology that keeps you there.\u201d\u00a0 The reason we are talking about courage is because, Barbara, you\u2019ve been doing a lot of thinking on this subject.\u00a0 I guess we haven\u2019t really introduced your wife here today.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Most of our listeners know that Barbara Rainey is related to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 She has been for 38 years, and she\u2019s written a devotional called <em>Growing Together in Courage<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s all about equipping families to read some stories about human beings who showed courage in the midst of obstacles, in the midst of fear, in the midst of a culture that was pushing back on them.\u00a0 In fact, I want you right off the bat to tell the story about Richard Wurmbrand and his wife, Sabina.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sabina.\u00a0 We want to say \u201cSabrina\u201d but there\u2019s no \u2018r\u2019.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s what I almost said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara<\/strong>.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s \u2018Sabina\u2019 without an \u2018r\u2019.\u00a0 This is a young couple who had a five-year-old son.\u00a0 He was their only child.\u00a0 They probably had not been married more than six or seven years.\u00a0 They found themselves in a very sticky situation.\u00a0 World War II was just over, so the reign of the Nazis had just ended.\u00a0 They all, they and everyone in their country, felt like \u201cWell, maybe things are going to get better because this terrible regime is finally gone.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut no sooner had they thought that when they realized that the next regime was not going to be much better.\u00a0 That was the communist government, which had taken over Romania.\u00a0 Stalin was ruling and he was an evil man as well.\u00a0 But Richard and Sabina were Christians.\u00a0 They had become Christians sometime in the years earlier.\u00a0 They had married and had this five-year-old son.\u00a0 Richard was a young pastor.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs the communists took over their country and began to rule, one day shortly thereafter they decided to have a big meeting in the capital city of all the pastors and bishops and ministers, everyone that had anything to do with any of the churches.\u00a0 They were going to extol the virtues of communism, how \u201ccommunism will work with the churches,\u201d and \u201cwe really all believe pretty much the same thing.\u201d\u00a0 So they invited some of these pastors and ministers to begin to get up, take the stage, and talk about \u201cHow we can get along, we can cooperate, and we really all believe the same things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs Richard and Sabina sat in the audience listening to one after another of these men who led churches extol the virtues of communism and not talk about Christ, they began to get more and more uncomfortable the longer they sat there.\u00a0 Finally, Sabina leaned over to her husband Richard and whispered to him, \u201cRichard, you must stand up and take away the reproach from the face of Christ.\u00a0 We cannot listen to this any longer.\u201d\u00a0 He leaned over to her and whispered back to her, \u201cIf I speak, you will lose your husband.\u201d\u00a0 She replied back to him, \u201cI do not wish to have a coward for a husband.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have to tell you the first time I read that I literally went \u201cOh!\u201d\u00a0 I guess I thought, \u201cOh my gosh, how could she do that?\u201d\u00a0 Because she did know that there was a very real possibility that anyone who stood up against the communists would be taken to prison or shot, or who knows what.\u00a0 She knew the risks of encouraging her husband to stand up for the truth, and she did it anyway.\u00a0 I find that stunning, shocking, and remarkable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it shows the power of a woman . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 in a husband\u2019s life.\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 Not that he would not have done it without her, because I think that he was probably already thinking about it, but her words gave her husband courage to stand up and do the right thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 If he was thinking about it, like any husband he\u2019d be thinking, \u201cOkay, this is the right thing to do, but I have a responsibility.\u00a0 How do I balance my responsibility with what is the right thing to do?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cI have a wife and a son.\u201d\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And she said, \u201cDo the right thing and we\u2019ll deal with the consequences.\u201d\u00a0 Right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And there aren\u2019t enough of those stories today of how women are speaking the right thing to their husbands, alongside them, encouraging them to do what\u2019s right, and giving them the courage and stimulating them to faith in Christ and trusting God with the results.\u00a0 I promise you, if you find a good man today, more than likely there\u2019s a great woman alongside of him, believing in him, saying the right words to him, encouraging him along the way.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m just trying to think of how kids learn courage.\u00a0 Is it by seeing it modeled by mom and dad?\u00a0 We can read stories to them, and there\u2019s something in reading a story of courage that does kind of resonate in our moral conscience, in our chest.\u00a0 I guess that\u2019s one way, is to share great stories of courage.\u00a0 But ultimately, they are going to keep their eyes on what we do, aren\u2019t they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 I mean, that\u2019s why I want these stories to be more than just for children.\u00a0 They are not just children\u2019s stories, because moms and dads need to be inspired to be courageous as well.\u00a0 They are the ones who will encourage their kids to be courageous and then will reward them, cheer them on when they make a courageous decision or take a courageous stand.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur kids do need to see mom and dad exemplifying that character quality, because it can\u2019t just be a second hand story about somebody else that lived in another century or another time and another place.\u00a0 Our kids do need to see us living courageous lives, because it will inspire them to want to be like mom and dad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So if we called your kids and asked \u201cHow did you see your mom demonstrating courage as she was raising you?\u201d do you have any idea what they\u2019d say or what they would come up with?\u00a0 Do you think they would think of you as having been a courageous mom?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I don\u2019t know what they would say.\u00a0 I remember doing some things that were courageous, like Dennis talked about \u2013 the dance thing\u2014the other day.\u00a0 I remember calling the mother of a friend of one of our daughters.\u00a0 Our daughter had been invited to go over to a sleepover, I think, sometime in high school.\u00a0 I remember calling this mother; I didn\u2019t know her, I\u2019d never even met her before.\u00a0 But I wanted to know what they were going to be doing.\u00a0 I wanted to know who was going to be there, how many kids, who were the adults, what was the plan?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember being so nervous calling this woman whom I never had met before and grilling her (that\u2019s what I felt like I was doing) about all the activities.\u00a0 But I was concerned about my child\u2019s safety and welfare.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t going to not do it, but I remember the nervousness that I felt calling her.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know that our daughter ever knew that I made the phone call.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if she knew that I made the phone call that she would describe it as courageous.\u00a0 She would probably roll her eyes and say \u201cI can\u2019t believe you had to do that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I think there are things that parents do that are very courageous that our children don\u2019t recognize as such.\u00a0 Maybe they will when they are adults. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There was a Thanksgiving at your house where you had to muster up some courage and demonstrate humility to your children, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, there was.\u00a0 A number of years ago when all of our kids were still at home \u2013 the oldest were probably in the 15, 16, 17 age range \u2013 I had come to a place where I really had come to some personal brokenness.\u00a0 I know that\u2019s not a word we use a whole lot.\u00a0 But I had realized that some patterns that were sort of ingrained in me as a parent were not healthy.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally the bottom line is that I had an anger issue that I struggled with because of the pressure of raising kids.\u00a0 Certain kids will always push your buttons.\u00a0 So some of mine pushed my buttons way more than others did.\u00a0 But in those situations for lots of different reasons, oftentimes I would get inappropriately angry with the particular child that was pushing my buttons.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t like it, and I didn\u2019t want to continue that.\u00a0 I came to a place in my life where I really saw it for what it was, and went through a time of confessing it to the Lord, repenting and really being broken.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I decided that the way that I needed to deal with it, for right or for wrong, I decided that what I wanted to do was to write a letter to my kids in general, to all of them.\u00a0 So I read them the letter at Thanksgiving one year.\u00a0 I just told them that I realized that my actions as a mother were not good.\u00a0 I knew they weren\u2019t good and I didn\u2019t like them, and I wanted them to know that.\u00a0 I wanted them to know that I knew it was wrong and that I had confessed it to God and asked him to work in my life and heal me and help me to be a better mother.\u00a0 I asked them to forgive me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Did that take courage on your part?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh, yes.\u00a0 And part of it is that my memory of it is that the kids kind of were going, \u201cOh my gosh, what\u2019s going on?\u00a0 What\u2019s with Mom and Dad?\u00a0 Because I was nervous and they could tell I was nervous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You were nervous, but you were also emotional.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was.\u00a0 I was crying, because I just was so upset personally at the damage that I had caused my children in these incidences.\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t an everyday thing, either, but it was enough that it was uncalled for.\u00a0 I wanted my kids to know that I really, really regretted it.\u00a0 So, yes \u2013 I\u2019m not one to cry a whole lot, so anytime Mom cried, everybody kind of went \u201cO-o-oh. What\u2019s going on?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo yes, that was a very courageous moment, but it was the right thing.\u00a0 I knew it was the right thing to do, so no matter how hard it was in anticipation as I kind of worked those days up ahead of time, I knew it was going to be hard.\u00a0 I knew it was going to be emotional, but I was committed to doing it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Confession and repentance demand great courage, don\u2019t they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They really do -- the ultimate humility, especially when we\u2019ve taken our confession first to God and we\u2019ve thanked him for his forgiveness on the cross of Christ, and we\u2019ve experienced it vertically with him, but then going horizontally to your husband or your wife or your children and truly humbling yourself, as Barbara did.\u00a0 I remember being so impressed, just admiring Barbara at that moment, because again, the easiest thing to do is just what a lot of people do, sweep it. -- sweep it under the rug; kind of pretend it\u2019s not there.\u00a0 Be sorry that it happened but don\u2019t model what is some of the most courageous behavior a child could ever see, which is their mom or dad asking for forgiveness for something they did wrong.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 I want to add, too, that it\u2019s not that I\u2019d never asked my kids to forgive me, because every time I made a mistake, whether it was getting angry at them, or whatever it was, that was a real hallmark of our family \u2013 teaching our children to name their sin, to confess it to one another and say, \u201cWill you forgive me for ____?\u201d and then to put the name of whatever the action was in the blank.\u00a0 So Dennis and I had purposely modeled that with our children.\u00a0 I had done that repenting and \u201cI\u2019m sorry.\u00a0 Will you forgive me?\u201d many, many, many times.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis was more of a cumulative kind of a thing where I wanted them to know that this behavior that I was prone to fall into that I didn\u2019t like and was harmful \u2013 that I was really putting a stake in the ground and saying \u201cI\u2019m going to change.\u00a0 I want to be really different from this day forward.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I want to go back to the communist meeting with all the pastors and Christian leaders and finish at least a little bit of the story there.\u00a0 After Sabina Wurmbrand whispered to her husband, \u201cI don\u2019t want a coward for a husband,\u201d let me just read what Barbara said at that point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe says, \u201cSometimes it helps to understand a word or a concept by looking at its opposite.\u00a0 \u2018Coward\u2019 isn\u2019t a word we hear very often today, but it describes someone who is easily frightened, who lacks courage, or who retreats to a place of personal safety.\u00a0 That\u2019s exactly what the other church leaders were doing that day in Bucharest, Romania.\u00a0 They went with the flow, more interested in pleasing men than God.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut Richard Wurmbrand left no doubt as to where his allegiances lay.\u00a0 What he did next required incredible courage.\u00a0 Pastor Wurmbrand took the stage.\u00a0 To everyone\u2019s surprise, he began to preach.\u00a0 Immediately a great silence fell on the hall.\u00a0 He said, \u2018Delegates, it is our duty not to praise earthly powers that come and go, but to glorify God the Creator, and Christ the Savior who died for us on the cross.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cA communist official jumped to his feet.\u00a0 This would not do.\u00a0 The whole country was hearing the message of Christ proclaimed from the rostrum of the communist Parliament.\u00a0 \u2018Your right to speak is withdrawn,\u2019 he shouted.\u00a0 Wurmbrand ignored him and went on.\u00a0 The atmosphere began to change.\u00a0 The audience began to applaud.\u00a0 He was saying what they all wanted to say, but were afraid to.\u201d\u00a0 She goes on and tells the rest of the story of what happened to him and to Sabina after this occurred.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, you just look at the culture today and how it is robbing families of biblical values, biblical convictions; how it\u2019s attempting to cause us to water down our faith and, as Barbara said, to go with the flow.\u00a0 I really believe we need to read stories like this aloud with our children.\u00a0 If we don\u2019t make it through the whole story and just stop and talk about that moment \u2013 \u201cWhat would that have been like?\u201d \u2013 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember one time \u2013 and I\u2019m going to ask Barbara to tell the story \u2013 our oldest daughter, Ashley, came home from school and had really been tested in terms of her courage.\u00a0 Do you remember the story I\u2019m talking about, how she said she was standing on a wall?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I do remember that story.\u00a0 She came home and she said something to the effect of \u201cI feel like I\u2019m the only one standing on the wall, and everyone is pulling me, trying to pull me down.\u00a0 But I\u2019m not going to let them win; I\u2019m going to be\u201d \u2013 isn\u2019t this when she said, \u201cI\u2019m going to be strong like a . . .\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 \u201cLike a pole in concrete.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 \u201cLike a pole in concrete.\u201d\u00a0 It was something really descriptive that she used. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But the others were like reeds bending in the wind.\u00a0 Bob, I don\u2019t know if Ashley caught her mother\u2019s courage from the Thanksgiving, perhaps.\u00a0 That might have been the Thanksgiving before.\u00a0 Who knows?\u00a0 But the point is, peer pressure is great among kids today.\u00a0 It used to start in junior high and high school.\u00a0 It starts much earlier today.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to give our kids the moral fortitude, the spiritual convictions, the things to believe in, to be able to stand on that concrete wall and have people pulling at them, but not come down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking of a mom or a dad reading the story of Richard and Sabina Wurmbrand to a five-year-old.\u00a0 If you were doing that, you\u2019d probably stop as you read and kind of explain the story at each paragraph, wouldn\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I would.\u00a0 I would suggest to parents, if your children are that young, if you have a five- and a six-year-old, for instance, I would read it ahead of time and decide which portions you wanted to read to your child.\u00a0 Then just read those portions.\u00a0 Or maybe you might want to just tell the story and let them look at the pictures as you tell it.\u00a0\u00a0 I was surprised a year ago when we released the one on gratitude, <em>Growing Together in Gratitude.<\/em> A young mom wrote who said that her only child was a four-year-old and she read all of the stories to the four-year-old.\u00a0 She was just so surprised at how much the four-year-old picked up.\u00a0 So I think sometimes we underestimate what our children can comprehend.\u00a0 But yes, a wise parent needs to look at it and pick out the portions that are appropriate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I\u2019m listening to Barbara here, and I\u2019m thinking of something that is taking place all across the country right now in people\u2019s lives.\u00a0 You and I, Bob, have been talking on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> about something that is happening on 2-11-11.\u00a0 February 11, 2011.\u00a0 You know what?\u00a0 This demands courage.\u00a0 It demands courage for couples to stand up and say, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I want to do something about what is happening to marriages and families in my community.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we have done is create a resource that they can bring to their community, to their church, to their neighborhood.\u00a0 They can host a video experience that can transform a couple\u2019s life, maybe an entire family, maybe dozens of families.\u00a0 We are seeing all across the country \u2013I got an email earlier from one couple in one state who have already made a list of 100 couples who they believe are courageous homebuilders in their area of the state.\u00a0 They are going to band together to make a difference in that area of the state on behalf of marriages and families.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo sometimes the act of courage may be a private one in a home; at other times it may be doing something like Richard Wurmbrand did, which is stand up and say, \u201cI want to be a part of the solution.\u00a0 I want to be a part of proclaiming Christ to a culture that desperately needs to know there are solutions to what is happening in the family today.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, the resource you\u2019re talking about is a video event that we\u2019ve put together called <em>The Art of Marriage.<\/em>\u00a0 If our listeners want to go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, there is a link there that will take them to the <em>Art of Marriage<\/em> website where they can find out more about this video event \u2013 how a couple can host an event like this in their community, in their church, with a group of people in almost any setting.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you said, February 11<sup>th<\/sup> of 2011, 2-11-11, is the premier date for this event.\u00a0 We already have a lot of couples all around the country who have already stepped up and said, \u201cWe\u2019re going to host one of these in our community or in our church.\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019d like to encourage you to consider doing that as well.\u00a0 Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and you can click on the link to <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> to find out more.\u00a0 There are some video clips if you want to see some of what\u2019s in <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em> \u2013 some of the different creative approaches that were taken in communicating biblical truth. You\u2019ll see that on our website, and you can find out more about how to host an event in your community.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>The Art of Marriage <\/em>\u00a0is just one of a number of new tools that we have designed to help men and women reach out like you\u2019re talking about \u2013 to be courageous in the culture and to stand up for a biblical view of marriage and family, and to be a part of making every home a godly home.\u00a0 Again, more details are online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe should not forget Barbara\u2019s book, which is called <em>Growing Together in Courage, <\/em>which is also available in our FamilyLife Today resource center.\u00a0 You can order a copy of this seven-session devotional guide, which you can use every day for a week or sprinkle it out through the month.\u00a0 It focuses in on the subject of courage \u2013 great stories to read together as a family \u2013 and you can find more about it online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Or, call 1-800-FL TODAY, 1-800-358-6329.\u00a0 That's 1-800 \u201cF\u201d as in Family, \u201cL\u201d as in Life, and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 When you contact us we\u2019ll let you know how you can get <em>Growing Together in Courage<\/em> sent to you.\u00a0 Or if you have questions about <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em>, you can ask those when you call as well, 1-800-FL-TODAY.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to talk about something else we can teach our children, and that is some of the great hymns of the faith.\u00a0 That will teach them some great theology at the same time.\u00a0 You know, they\u2019re not learning a lot of these hymns in many of our churches today, so this is good to teach your kids at home.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that more tomorrow with Joni Eareckson Tada and Bobbie Wilgemuth.\u00a0 I hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts. 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