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Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Do you remember?\u00a0 Did you ever get offered drugs in junior high or high school?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Let me tell you something.\u00a0 Ozark, Missouri wasn\u2019t the end of the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 But you could see it from there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 But you could see it from there.\u00a0 I do not ever remember seeing marijuana, speed, LSD, all the stuff that I did encounter in college, but I\u2019m sure it was there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 But you had no idea -- If you\u2019d wanted to go get marijuana, you wouldn\u2019t have known where to go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 No.\u00a0 I was so na\u00efve that early in my adulthood somebody talked about \u2018rolling their joints,\u2019 and I thought they were talking about their hands.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 (laughter) Their knuckles.\u00a0 I would say that was na\u00efve.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 I was a little na\u00efve about the whole thing, but our guest on the broadcast today is not.\u00a0 Glenn Williams joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>Glenn, welcome to our broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Thanks, Dennis.\u00a0 Great to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Glenn is an Australian psychologist, pastor, author.\u00a0 He has worked at Focus on the Family for more than seven years, and he and his wife, Natalie, have three children.\u00a0\u00a0 In fact, your children are just on the cusp . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0They really are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 . . .\u00a0 of what you\u2019ve written about in your book, <em>Talking Smack<\/em>.\u00a0 How concerned are you about preparing elementary, pre-junior high children for encountering drugs today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Very concerned.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s the ideal stage in which to talk to our kids, literally.\u00a0 If we want to wait until our children get to the teen years, until they get to a situation, Dennis, that you described earlier \u2013 about potentially being offered something \u2013 a drug, whether it is marijuana or something else -- if you\u2019re going to wait until that moment before you want to talk to your children about this issue, it\u2019s way too late.\u00a0 Ideally, if your children are in elementary school, you have plenty of opportunities and teachable moments to actually talk to the issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I think about talking to a seven- or an eight-year-old about drugs and I think, \u201cAre they even going to understand what you\u2019re talking to them about?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, they are seven or eight years old!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes, and that\u2019s a fair question, I think.\u00a0 It\u2019s a question a lot of parents would have.\u00a0 But let me give you an example.\u00a0 Ben, my son, who was nine years old at the time, was actually watching football, and on came a half-time interview about one of the players who had been using steroids.\u00a0 My son called them \u201csteroods.\u201d\u00a0 But he said, \u201cDad, what\u2019s steroids?\u201d\u00a0 And so we had a chance to talk about it.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, actually steroids are drugs, they are chemicals that actually help you to grow stronger and perform better.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is my nine-year-old son saying, \u201cBut Dad, that\u2019s unfair to everybody else.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking \u201cHow am I going to explain this?\u201d but my nine year old was intuitive enough to recognize the difference that this would make to the playing field.\u00a0 And so we had a great chance just to talk about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Here\u2019s what parents who have children in the elementary years of school are facing:\u00a0 more than one-third of twelve-year-olds to 17-year-olds, 8.7 million of them, can obtain prescription drugs, to get them within one day.\u00a0 Now think about that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne-third of your children\u2019s classmates, starting in sixth grade, seventh grade, can figure out how to get prescription drugs.\u00a0 Sixty five percent of the same age group who drink, get drunk at least once a month.\u00a0 A twelve-year-old?\u00a0 Where are they getting the booze?\u00a0 Where are they getting it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, you know what, some of them are getting it from home and some are getting it from friends, and some are getting it from their peers.\u00a0 Again, one of the things that we just ask parents to be aware of \u2013 if you have alcohol in the home, or for that matter, if you have prescription medication in the home, which most families do, just be mindful of what you do have and whether or not it\u2019s under lock and key or whether or not it\u2019s in a safe place \u2013 that you know exactly what\u2019s there and what may be, at a later time, missing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s interesting that you bring up prescription medication, because we tend to think of drug use as marijuana or cocaine or crack or some of the street drugs.\u00a0 But there is a broad segment of the population, a broad segment of young people, who are experimenting with prescription medications that are being prescribed for one thing but are getting snuck out of the house for something else.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Increasingly so.\u00a0 In fact, alarmingly, you may have heard of the term \u201cpharm parties\u201d \u2013 that\u2019s p-h-a-r-m, short for \u2018pharmaceutical\u2019 \u2013 \u2018pharm parties\u2019 where teens literally come together.\u00a0 They bring together different samples of prescription medication, maybe from the family home, they put them all into a bowl, they mix it all up, and then basically randomly take one, and offer them to each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow again, they have no idea what they are getting there, so you can imagine dangerous potentially that is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 I have heard about this, and I\u2019ve also heard that many of these drugs, when mixed with alcohol, can be deadly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Very much so.\u00a0 In fact, usually that\u2019s what occurs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 I think, back to being a parent, though.\u00a0 There\u2019s a lot to being a parent that you just don\u2019t count the cost of preparing your young person for the issues they are going to face when they do get into junior high and high school.\u00a0 Why do you think parents don\u2019t address this subject?\u00a0 It\u2019s not like it\u2019s sex, which is this ultimate, most threatening subject that two human beings can talk about.\u00a0 Why is it they don\u2019t talk about it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0I think first we like to believe the best about our children, don\u2019t we?\u00a0 You want to believe that your kids are going to be fine, they\u2019re going to make good choices, they\u2019re not going to make a decision that\u2019s going to hurt them or hurt us as a family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019re hanging out with good kids . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes. They go to a good school.\u00a0 Maybe they are a member of a youth group, whatever the case might be.\u00a0 You believe the best about them.\u00a0 So I think there\u2019s that innate desire that you just believe the best about your children, to start with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOtherwise, I think there are some fears that parents have.\u00a0 One fear is simply \u201cI just feel if I\u2019m going to talk with this subject with my kids, then I\u2019m going to come across as pretty stupid and na\u00efve or ignorant.\u00a0 How do I get up to speed about what to talk about?\u00a0 How do I stay informed?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just lack enough awareness about this issue, so if I begin to talk about this subject with my child, then ultimately I\u2019m going to come across feeling pretty silly, because I don\u2019t think they are going to understand or respect what I\u2019ve got to offer.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 It would also seem there might be a fear, especially for a parent who has been a user of drugs when they were in high school, college, or adulthood, that the kid is going to go, \u201cHey, Dad, did you use drugs?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s been fascinating working with parents and talking to parents in that situation.\u00a0 Some would say, \u201cListen, I think it\u2019s important just to be honest and transparent about that experience,\u201d so that you can say, \u201cListen, son, I did this, but man, I regret it.\u201d\u00a0 Other parents would say, \u201cListen, I\u2019d rather not share that part of my life.\u201d\u00a0 So you do come across some conflict there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut in essence, for the parents who have had a drug experience, \u201cHow do I talk about that?\u00a0 Do I reveal this to my child?\u00a0 And if I reveal this to my child, is that going to encourage my child to go ahead and experiment?\u00a0 They might say, \u2018Well, it\u2019s okay.\u00a0 Dad tried it.\u00a0 Mom tried it.\u00a0 It\u2019s okay and look, they\u2019re still here.\u00a0 They\u2019re okay.\u00a0 They\u2019re healthy.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 So there is that issue as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 If you had to advise a parent listening right now who had used some drugs growing up, would you advise them to share or not to share, and if they share, at what age would you tell your child?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, you\u2019ve asked me a couple of questions there.\u00a0 One is, would I share that with a child?\u00a0 It really does depend on the age of the child and also the maturity of the child.\u00a0 And again, it\u2019s very difficult just to say, \u201cWell, listen.\u00a0 Wait until your child is 13 years old to say that,\u201d because if you\u2019re comparing one 13-year-old against another 13-year-old, their immaturity may be quite different.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTypically I would recommend to parents that they do share that, but think very carefully about how that is shared.\u00a0 If you\u2019re going to share that in the vein of \u201cListen, I did this and it was no big deal,\u201d well then that doesn\u2019t send exactly the message that you want to be sending to your child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut if you present that by saying, \u201cWell, listen, son, I got pulled off in a whole different direction here, and I wasn\u2019t expecting it.\u00a0 The reason why I went down this line was because I wanted to be cool.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI wanted to be with my friends and my friends wanted to be with me, and I realized that the only way I could really stay with them was by going on a drinking binge or smoking marijuana or whatever.\u00a0 I realize now, looking back, that that was the wrong thing to do.\u00a0 It was unhealthy and actually it turned out that some of those friends weren\u2019t really my friends.\u00a0 Honestly, some of those friends went on to really mess up their lives big time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had a conversation with a young man named Tim at the muffler shop.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He\u2019d been involved in drugs, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, he had been.\u00a0 It was an incredible moment, actually.\u00a0 He had become aware of a program that we launched in Australia called <em>How to Drug Proof Your Kids<\/em>, and we\u2019ve had thousands of parents go through this program now.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just happened to be there dropping off my car to get the muffler repaired and he just came over.\u00a0 He saw me reading this article in the newspaper on drugs, and he said, \u201cOh, yeah, I just finished doing a <em>How to Drug Proof Your Kids<\/em> course.\u00a0 It\u2019s a parenting program.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cOh really.\u00a0 Tell me a little about that.\u201d\u00a0 He didn\u2019t know that I was with Focus on the Family Australia or had launched the program.\u00a0 \u201cWell honestly,\u201d he said, \u201cfrom a young age in high school, I really went off the rails with this stuff.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI thought it was pretty harmless.\u00a0 I thought I could control it.\u00a0 Very soon I found out that I couldn\u2019t.\u00a0 It then became incredibly costly, even financially, so in order to maintain that habit I had to do things, sell things, steal things, in order to maintain that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he said, \u201cBut, sees, none of my parents had that conversation with me.\u00a0 They didn\u2019t tell me what to expect when I got to thirteen or fourteen where this potential was going to be an issue.\u00a0 So I have come to this program,\u201d he said, \u201cI have a four-year-old (I think it was) and a six-year-old, and I want to be prepared.\u00a0 I want to know \u2018how do I talk to my children about this so they don\u2019t have to live or experience the type of lifestyle I did or make the same mistakes I did.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have to admit, as I listen to those stories, I\u2019m still terribly na\u00efve about the drug culture.\u00a0 My barber is a recovering drug addict.\u00a0 He\u2019s very open about it, been very involved in <em>Celebrate Recovery.<\/em>\u00a0 Over the years, obviously as you\u2019re sitting there getting your hair cut, you get a chance to ask a few questions.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t realize that someone who is taking drugs or getting hooked \u2013 his was a $300 a day habit at the end \u2013 and he was doing that professionally as a barber.\u00a0 Okay?\u00a0 I didn\u2019t realize how physically the body starts to shut down and how he wasn\u2019t eating.\u00a0 It took ultimately the convergence of friendships and family members and professional people getting involved in his life to bring him back to reality and ultimately to save his life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith children, however, we\u2019re not talking about this level of drug use, are we?\u00a0 Or can they get addicted to such a level?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well let me give you an example.\u00a0 There was a situation that I encountered in Australia in the city of Melbourne, where elementary schools (we call them \u2018primary schools in Melbourne) \u2013 on the streets \u2013 dealers were making available these heroin kits for 10 year olds.\u00a0 Obviously, that just scares every parent.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, having young children, that frightens me to death.\u00a0 But our kids are being exposed to this.\u00a0 Again, I think we\u2019ve got to take some of the mystique out of this a little bit.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s not that we have to be concerned that tomorrow your kid is going to be really confronted with drugs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I\u2019m trying to say through the message of this book is, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 As a parent, be prepared.\u00a0 Be informed.\u00a0 Know how to engage your child in a conversation over this.\u00a0 Create a safe environment, a safe place where your children can ask any question they want.\u00a0 You\u2019re not going to make fun of the question; you\u2019re not going to put them down for the question that they ask.\u00a0 But look for some of those teachable moments.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other day I was driving along and there was a significant car accident, a car wreck.\u00a0 Now Ben and Ryan (Ryan\u2019s my nine-year-old) said, \u201cWhoa, I wonder what happened there?\u201d\u00a0 Ben said, \u201cWell, he might have been speeding or he might have been drinking too much, Dad.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, what happens when you drink too much?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, I think when you drink too much you don\u2019t think too straight,\u201d and he said, \u201cand you can\u2019t react as quickly as what you should be able to.\u201d\u00a0 And so, again I was surprised at just how mature and how intuitive my young kids were about this subject.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s looking for these moments.\u00a0 In sports, they see players celebrate victories by throwing around champagne or drinking beer and everything.\u00a0 Please, I\u2019m not judging those players, but I\u2019m saying when you celebrate something like that and it\u2019s seen to be very cool that you celebrate a victory with beer and champagne and everything else, all of a sudden our kids get the message that \u201cHey, this is pretty cool.\u00a0 Apparently when I\u2019ve reached a certain level and this is cool enough and I win and victory is associated with alcohol.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Is that the primary attraction for young people?\u00a0 Are they drawn to drugs or alcohol because it looks cool?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, is it a peer pressure deal?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That certainly is true the further you move into the teen years.\u00a0 I think of the elementary years \u2013 although it\u2019s seen as being cool \u2013 it\u2019s not so much being driven by peer pressure to be cool as much as a desire just to want to be cool.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a nine year old, and yes, he wants to be liked.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that none of his friends right now are probably engaged in drinking alcohol.\u00a0 We talk about this, you know, \u201cAre they?\u201d and so on.\u00a0 But he still wants to be liked.\u00a0 He has a strong desire to be liked.\u00a0 But \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t think he\u2019s feeling any pressure that in order to be liked he has to go and drink alcohol or take a drug or whatever.\u00a0 I think as you move into the teen years, increasingly you\u2019re feeling that pressure to be more cool and this is seen to be very cool \u2013 engaging in some sort of risk-taking behavior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 So Glen, at what age do you begin to tell what is potentially a frightening story of somebody losing their life because they take a drug like Ecstasy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Again, I have shared some stories.\u00a0 I shared the story about Sandy and Karen to my nine-year-old and my eight-year-old already, again, not to inject a sense of fear into them, not to make them really frightened, but again, just to demonstrate to them the potential tragic consequences of drug use.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this was the situation:\u00a0 Sandy was at a party with her sister \u2013 it was a dance party \u2013 and she had somewhat dehydrated in the course of the night, so was drinking lots of water.\u00a0 She took an Ecstasy tablet.\u00a0 She was there with her sister.\u00a0 (Her parents were great parents, by the way, a great family.)\u00a0 Sandy was offered the tablet and she thought, \u201cIt\u2019s probably not going to hurt.\u00a0 It\u2019s not going to harm me.\u00a0 It\u2019s just one.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn this case, what happened was the brain expanded because she had been dehydrated.\u00a0 She over-hydrated in order to correct that, and there was a chemical reaction.\u00a0 She collapsed and her sister called the emergency number and the hospital.\u00a0 Obviously the paramedics came, and they took her to the hospital.\u00a0 By the time the parents had got to the hospital, Sandy had died.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember talking to Karen, the mother, later.\u00a0 In fact, Karen and I had quite a bit to do with each other.\u00a0 We\u2019d go to schools, and we\u2019d talk to other kids about this issue.\u00a0 She became a real soldier, so to speak, just to come alongside, just to encourage and equip parents and stop them from being na\u00efve or ignorant about the issue.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe would say, \u201cYou know what, I talked to my daughters about this.\u00a0 I talked to Sandy about this issue.\u00a0 I thought she was well-equipped.\u00a0 But what this tells me,\u201d she said, \u201cis that I just cannot afford to let my guard down.\u00a0 I can\u2019t afford to say, \u2018My child knows enough.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cI probably stopped having those conversations because I thought I had overdone it.\u00a0 I thought I had come to that point where \u2018well, she knows.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 But she said, \u201cI realize that I didn\u2019t provide those opportunities for Sandy just to share with me how she was really feeling at the time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I think as a parent you know these stories or you hear some of these stories, and you think, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll talk to my kids about this.\u201d\u00a0 But your kids will give you this \u201cYeah, Dad, okay, we know.\u00a0 We\u2019ve heard this before.\u201d\u00a0 So you do get a sense of \u201cI\u2019ve told them.\u00a0 They understand.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to keep talking about it or they\u2019re going to start to tune me out and figure I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m talking about.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as parents you do think, \u201cI don\u2019t want to nag them about this stuff.\u201d\u00a0 So how can I tell whether I\u2019m nagging or whether I\u2019ve not said enough?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Bob, what you\u2019ve said there is true.\u00a0 But you know what, it\u2019s probably not true in the parent-child relationship when your child is still in elementary school.\u00a0 They\u2019re not likely to say, \u201cOh, Dad, there you go again.\u201d\u00a0 You actually don\u2019t typically get that response when they\u2019re in elementary school.\u00a0 At least I haven\u2019t got that response just yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re saying third, fourth, fifth graders \u2013 this is where you start to engage on this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, think about it.\u00a0 I still remember bringing Ben home as an infant for the first time.\u00a0 Obviously by the time he\u2019s three and four years old, I\u2019ve gone around the house.\u00a0 I\u2019ve made sure it\u2019s kid-safe.\u00a0 I\u2019ve made sure, whether it\u2019s detergents, or whether it\u2019s bleaches, or whether it\u2019s solvents or paints or whatever in the garage, I\u2019ve made sure that whatever is potentially dangerous is out of the reach of my child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0In the same way, as kids get older, they get to four years old or five years old or six years old, you know, they\u2019ll often typically go to reach something or use something that you know is harmful, whether it\u2019s paint thinners or whatever, and they\u2019ll see a label on there \u201cBeware.\u201d\u00a0 Again, it creates an opportunity to say, \u201cHey, listen son.\u00a0 The reason that\u2019s on there is because that is poisonous.\u00a0 These are chemicals.\u00a0 They will hurt you.\u00a0 They will harm you, so you\u2019re not to swallow them, not to play with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo in the same way as these are chemicals, as your child gets older, they move close to the teen years, drugs are chemicals, and so they cause different reactions in the body.\u00a0 At that point your kids have had that journey, if you like.\u00a0 Talking about drugs is not an event, it\u2019s a journey.\u00a0 Really it\u2019s to take the mystique out of it and to get your kids involved in a conversation where this just becomes a normal part of your conversation, not something to be feared.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 And as I\u2019m listening to you here I\u2019m just grabbing a few practical, non-negotiables that parents ought to leave this broadcast with.\u00a0 First of all, realize that there\u2019s a problem, no matter where your kids go to school, whether they\u2019re home-schooled, whether they go to a Christian school, or a public school, they\u2019re going to run into other children.\u00a0 They\u2019re going to run into situations and opportunities beyond your control where they may encounter something dangerous.\u00a0 So the second thing they need to do is have a proactive plan that\u2019s not a one-time conversation, but frankly, it\u2019s a life-time conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t know that you\u2019d ever stop having a conversation with your kids.\u00a0 You\u2019re certainly not lecturing them as adults, but if you feared substance abuse with one of your adult children, I think that would be a fair conversation to have at that point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, third, I think that the whole idea of peer pressure:\u00a0 as parents we dare not underestimate its power in our children, starting at increasingly younger and younger ages.\u00a0 I have written a book called <em>So You\u2019re About to be a Teenager.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Now, wait.\u00a0 Your son, Samuel and your daughter, Rebecca might take issue with the fact that you wrote that book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I co-authored the book with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were involved in the writing of that book as well, weren\u2019t they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were very involved in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it sold over 100,000 copies.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting, but I\u2019ve just been having conversations with Samuel as a co-author of that book, to talk about revising it, because I think the age where they need to learn some of these matters is getting younger and younger.\u00a0 That book was written for eleven- or twelve-year-olds.\u00a0 That was the target when we wrote it about six or seven years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 Today that age is getting younger and younger where they\u2019re getting exposed to alcohol, drugs, sex, and pornography.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s the wise parent who understands the culture, the peer pressure and all that\u2019s coming at our kids on TV, in the media and on the internet.\u00a0 We have to be ahead of the game.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, and it may be that you don\u2019t need to revise the book.\u00a0 You just need to, as a parent, give it to your son or daughter at age ten rather than age eleven or twelve, given the issues that you\u2019re talking about and the fact that they are getting hit with this stuff earlier and earlier.\u00a0 Maybe you take them on a <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> weekend when they turn ten rather than wait until they are eleven or twelve.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe point is, as parents we have to be proactive on this issue.\u00a0 We have to be, as you said, ahead of the curve, and we have to have the resources to help us, whether it\u2019s the <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> weekend or the <em>So You\u2019re About to be a Teenager<\/em> book for kids, or Glen\u2019s book, <em>Talking Smack.<\/em>\u00a0 We have all of those books in our FamilyLife Today resource center.\u00a0 Folks can get more information by going online at FamilyLifeToday.com if they want to get a copy of the book.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we thought that Glen\u2019s book was so helpful for parents that this week we are making it available to folks who contact us and make a donation to the ministry.\u00a0 All you have to do is go online and make whatever donation you want to make and we\u2019ll send you a copy of the book <em>Talking Smack<\/em> by Glenn Williams.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you make a donation and you want a copy of the book, type the word \u2018TALK\u2019 in the online key code box, or call 1-800-FLTODAY, make your donation over the phone, and just mention that you\u2019d like the book on drugs that we\u2019ve been talking about.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s called <em>Talking Smack<\/em>.\u00a0 We hope that parents will get a copy of this book, and not just get a copy but read through it and then engage with your son or your daughter, whether they\u2019re ten or eleven or twelve, or 16, 17, or 18.\u00a0 It\u2019s time to start having some of these conversations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me just say a word of thanks for your support of the ministry.\u00a0 As you make a donation to help support <em>FamilyLife Today,<\/em> you\u2019re helping to keep this program on this local radio station and on our network of stations all across the country.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership with us, and just want to say 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would your child do if offered drugs?","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-10-25.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, October 25th.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk today about how to talk to your kids about drugs.\u00a0 So stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Do you remember?\u00a0 Did you ever get offered drugs in junior high or high school?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Let me tell you something.\u00a0 Ozark, Missouri wasn\u2019t the end of the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 But you could see it from there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 But you could see it from there.\u00a0 I do not 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being offered something \u2013 a drug, whether it is marijuana or something else -- if you\u2019re going to wait until that moment before you want to talk to your children about this issue, it\u2019s way too late.\u00a0 Ideally, if your children are in elementary school, you have plenty of opportunities and teachable moments to actually talk to the issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I think about talking to a seven- or an eight-year-old about drugs and I think, \u201cAre they even going to understand what you\u2019re talking to them about?\u201d\u00a0 I mean, they are seven or eight years old!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes, and that\u2019s a fair question, I think.\u00a0 It\u2019s a question a lot of parents would have.\u00a0 But let me give you an example.\u00a0 Ben, my son, who was nine years old at the time, was actually watching football, and on came a half-time interview about one of the players who had been using steroids.\u00a0 My son called them \u201csteroods.\u201d\u00a0 But he said, \u201cDad, what\u2019s steroids?\u201d\u00a0 And so we had a chance to talk about it.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, actually steroids are drugs, they are chemicals that actually help you to grow stronger and perform better.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is my nine-year-old son saying, \u201cBut Dad, that\u2019s unfair to everybody else.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking \u201cHow am I going to explain this?\u201d but my nine year old was intuitive enough to recognize the difference that this would make to the playing field.\u00a0 And so we had a great chance just to talk about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Here\u2019s what parents who have children in the elementary years of school are facing:\u00a0 more than one-third of twelve-year-olds to 17-year-olds, 8.7 million of them, can obtain prescription drugs, to get them within one day.\u00a0 Now think about that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne-third of your children\u2019s classmates, starting in sixth grade, seventh grade, can figure out how to get prescription drugs.\u00a0 Sixty five percent of the same age group who drink, get drunk at least once a month.\u00a0 A twelve-year-old?\u00a0 Where are they getting the booze?\u00a0 Where are they getting it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, you know what, some of them are getting it from home and some are getting it from friends, and some are getting it from their peers.\u00a0 Again, one of the things that we just ask parents to be aware of \u2013 if you have alcohol in the home, or for that matter, if you have prescription medication in the home, which most families do, just be mindful of what you do have and whether or not it\u2019s under lock and key or whether or not it\u2019s in a safe place \u2013 that you know exactly what\u2019s there and what may be, at a later time, 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other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow again, they have no idea what they are getting there, so you can imagine dangerous potentially that is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 I have heard about this, and I\u2019ve also heard that many of these drugs, when mixed with alcohol, can be deadly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Very much so.\u00a0 In fact, usually that\u2019s what occurs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 I think, back to being a parent, though.\u00a0 There\u2019s a lot to being a parent that you just don\u2019t count the cost of preparing your young person for the issues they are going to face when they do get into junior high and high school.\u00a0 Why do you think parents don\u2019t address this subject?\u00a0 It\u2019s not like it\u2019s sex, which is this ultimate, most threatening subject that two human beings can talk about.\u00a0 Why is it they don\u2019t talk about it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0I think first we like to believe the best about our children, don\u2019t we?\u00a0 You want to believe that your kids are going to be fine, they\u2019re going to make good choices, they\u2019re not going to make a decision that\u2019s going to hurt them or hurt us as a family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 They\u2019re hanging out with good kids . . .\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes. They go to a good school.\u00a0 Maybe they are a member of a youth group, whatever the case might be.\u00a0 You believe the best about them.\u00a0 So I think there\u2019s that innate desire that you just believe the best about your children, to start with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOtherwise, I think there are some fears that parents have.\u00a0 One fear is simply \u201cI just feel if I\u2019m going to talk with this subject with my kids, then I\u2019m going to come across as pretty stupid and na\u00efve or ignorant.\u00a0 How do I get up to speed about what to talk about?\u00a0 How do I stay informed?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just lack enough awareness about this issue, so if I begin to talk about this subject with my child, then ultimately I\u2019m going to come across feeling pretty silly, because I don\u2019t think they are going to understand or respect what I\u2019ve got to offer.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 It would also seem there might be a fear, especially for a parent who has been a user of drugs when they were in high school, college, or adulthood, that the kid is going to go, \u201cHey, Dad, did you use drugs?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s been fascinating working with parents and talking to parents in that situation.\u00a0 Some would say, \u201cListen, I think it\u2019s important just to be honest and transparent about that experience,\u201d so that you can say, \u201cListen, son, I did this, but man, I regret it.\u201d\u00a0 Other parents would say, \u201cListen, I\u2019d rather not share that part of my life.\u201d\u00a0 So you do come across some conflict there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut in essence, for the parents who have had a drug experience, \u201cHow do I talk about that?\u00a0 Do I reveal this to my child?\u00a0 And if I reveal this to my child, is that going to encourage my child to go ahead and experiment?\u00a0 They might say, \u2018Well, it\u2019s okay.\u00a0 Dad tried it.\u00a0 Mom tried it.\u00a0 It\u2019s okay and look, they\u2019re still here.\u00a0 They\u2019re okay.\u00a0 They\u2019re healthy.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 So there is that issue as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 If you had to advise a parent listening right now who had used some drugs growing up, would you advise them to share or not to share, and if they share, at what age would you tell your child?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, you\u2019ve asked me a couple of questions there.\u00a0 One is, would I share that with a child?\u00a0 It really does depend on the age of the child and also the maturity of the child.\u00a0 And again, it\u2019s very difficult just to say, \u201cWell, listen.\u00a0 Wait until your child is 13 years old to say that,\u201d because if you\u2019re comparing one 13-year-old against another 13-year-old, their immaturity may be quite different.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTypically I would recommend to parents that they do share that, but think very carefully about how that is shared.\u00a0 If you\u2019re going to share that in the vein of \u201cListen, I did this and it was no big deal,\u201d well then that doesn\u2019t send exactly the message that you want to be sending to your child.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut if you present that by saying, \u201cWell, listen, son, I got pulled off in a whole different direction here, and I wasn\u2019t expecting it.\u00a0 The reason why I went down this line was because I wanted to be cool.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI wanted to be with my friends and my friends wanted to be with me, and I realized that the only way I could really stay with them was by going on a drinking binge or smoking marijuana or whatever.\u00a0 I realize now, looking back, that that was the wrong thing to do.\u00a0 It was unhealthy and actually it turned out that some of those friends weren\u2019t really my friends.\u00a0 Honestly, some of those friends went on to really mess up their lives big time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You had a conversation with a young man named Tim at the muffler shop.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 He\u2019d been involved in drugs, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, he had been.\u00a0 It was an incredible moment, actually.\u00a0 He had become aware of a program that we launched in Australia called <em>How to Drug Proof Your Kids<\/em>, and we\u2019ve had thousands of parents go through this program now.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just happened to be there dropping off my car to get the muffler repaired and he just came over.\u00a0 He saw me reading this article in the newspaper on drugs, and he said, \u201cOh, yeah, I just finished doing a <em>How to Drug Proof Your Kids<\/em> course.\u00a0 It\u2019s a parenting program.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cOh really.\u00a0 Tell me a little about that.\u201d\u00a0 He didn\u2019t know that I was with Focus on the Family Australia or had launched the program.\u00a0 \u201cWell honestly,\u201d he said, \u201cfrom a young age in high school, I really went off the rails with this stuff.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI thought it was pretty harmless.\u00a0 I thought I could control it.\u00a0 Very soon I found out that I couldn\u2019t.\u00a0 It then became incredibly costly, even financially, so in order to maintain that habit I had to do things, sell things, steal things, in order to maintain that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd he said, \u201cBut, sees, none of my parents had that conversation with me.\u00a0 They didn\u2019t tell me what to expect when I got to thirteen or fourteen where this potential was going to be an issue.\u00a0 So I have come to this program,\u201d he said, \u201cI have a four-year-old (I think it was) and a six-year-old, and I want to be prepared.\u00a0 I want to know \u2018how do I talk to my children about this so they don\u2019t have to live or experience the type of lifestyle I did or make the same mistakes I did.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have to admit, as I listen to those stories, I\u2019m still terribly na\u00efve about the drug culture.\u00a0 My barber is a recovering drug addict.\u00a0 He\u2019s very open about it, been very involved in <em>Celebrate Recovery.<\/em>\u00a0 Over the years, obviously as you\u2019re sitting there getting your hair cut, you get a chance to ask a few questions.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t realize that someone who is taking drugs or getting hooked \u2013 his was a $300 a day habit at the end \u2013 and he was doing that professionally as a barber.\u00a0 Okay?\u00a0 I didn\u2019t realize how physically the body starts to shut down and how he wasn\u2019t eating.\u00a0 It took ultimately the convergence of friendships and family members and professional people getting involved in his life to bring him back to reality and ultimately to save his life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith children, however, we\u2019re not talking about this level of drug use, are we?\u00a0 Or can they get addicted to such a level?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well let me give you an example.\u00a0 There was a situation that I encountered in Australia in the city of Melbourne, where elementary schools (we call them \u2018primary schools in Melbourne) \u2013 on the streets \u2013 dealers were making available these heroin kits for 10 year olds.\u00a0 Obviously, that just scares every parent.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, having young children, that frightens me to death.\u00a0 But our kids are being exposed to this.\u00a0 Again, I think we\u2019ve got to take some of the mystique out of this a little bit.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s not that we have to be concerned that tomorrow your kid is going to be really confronted with drugs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I\u2019m trying to say through the message of this book is, \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 As a parent, be prepared.\u00a0 Be informed.\u00a0 Know how to engage your child in a conversation over this.\u00a0 Create a safe environment, a safe place where your children can ask any question they want.\u00a0 You\u2019re not going to make fun of the question; you\u2019re not going to put them down for the question that they ask.\u00a0 But look for some of those teachable moments.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other day I was driving along and there was a significant car accident, a car wreck.\u00a0 Now Ben and Ryan (Ryan\u2019s my nine-year-old) said, \u201cWhoa, I wonder what happened there?\u201d\u00a0 Ben said, \u201cWell, he might have been speeding or he might have been drinking too much, Dad.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, what happens when you drink too much?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, I think when you drink too much you don\u2019t think too straight,\u201d and he said, \u201cand you can\u2019t react as quickly as what you should be able to.\u201d\u00a0 And so, again I was surprised at just how mature and how intuitive my young kids were about this subject.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s looking for these moments.\u00a0 In sports, they see players celebrate victories by throwing around champagne or drinking beer and everything.\u00a0 Please, I\u2019m not judging those players, but I\u2019m saying when you celebrate something like that and it\u2019s seen to be very cool that you celebrate a victory with beer and champagne and everything else, all of a sudden our kids get the message that \u201cHey, this is pretty cool.\u00a0 Apparently when I\u2019ve reached a certain level and this is cool enough and I win and victory is associated with alcohol.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Is that the primary attraction for young people?\u00a0 Are they drawn to drugs or alcohol because it looks cool?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, is it a peer pressure deal?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That certainly is true the further you move into the teen years.\u00a0 I think of the elementary years \u2013 although it\u2019s seen as being cool \u2013 it\u2019s not so much being driven by peer pressure to be cool as much as a desire just to want to be cool.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a nine year old, and yes, he wants to be liked.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure that none of his friends right now are probably engaged in drinking alcohol.\u00a0 We talk about this, you know, \u201cAre they?\u201d and so on.\u00a0 But he still wants to be liked.\u00a0 He has a strong desire to be liked.\u00a0 But \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t think he\u2019s feeling any pressure that in order to be liked he has to go and drink alcohol or take a drug or whatever.\u00a0 I think as you move into the teen years, increasingly you\u2019re feeling that pressure to be more cool and this is seen to be very cool \u2013 engaging in some sort of risk-taking behavior.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u00a0 So Glen, at what age do you begin to tell what is potentially a frightening story of somebody losing their life because they take a drug like Ecstasy?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Again, I have shared some stories.\u00a0 I shared the story about Sandy and Karen to my nine-year-old and my eight-year-old already, again, not to inject a sense of fear into them, not to make them really frightened, but again, just to demonstrate to them the potential tragic consequences of drug use.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this was the situation:\u00a0 Sandy was at a party with her sister \u2013 it was a dance party \u2013 and she had somewhat dehydrated in the course of the night, so was drinking lots of water.\u00a0 She took an Ecstasy tablet.\u00a0 She was there with her sister.\u00a0 (Her parents were great parents, by the way, a great family.)\u00a0 Sandy was offered the tablet and she thought, \u201cIt\u2019s probably not going to hurt.\u00a0 It\u2019s not going to harm me.\u00a0 It\u2019s just one.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn this case, what happened was the brain expanded because she had been dehydrated.\u00a0 She over-hydrated in order to correct that, and there was a chemical reaction.\u00a0 She collapsed and her sister called the emergency number and the hospital.\u00a0 Obviously the paramedics came, and they took her to the hospital.\u00a0 By the time the parents had got to the hospital, Sandy had died.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember talking to Karen, the mother, later.\u00a0 In fact, Karen and I had quite a bit to do with each other.\u00a0 We\u2019d go to schools, and we\u2019d talk to other kids about this issue.\u00a0 She became a real soldier, so to speak, just to come alongside, just to encourage and equip parents and stop them from being na\u00efve or ignorant about the issue.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe would say, \u201cYou know what, I talked to my daughters about this.\u00a0 I talked to Sandy about this issue.\u00a0 I thought she was well-equipped.\u00a0 But what this tells me,\u201d she said, \u201cis that I just cannot afford to let my guard down.\u00a0 I can\u2019t afford to say, \u2018My child knows enough.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cI probably stopped having those conversations because I thought I had overdone it.\u00a0 I thought I had come to that point where \u2018well, she knows.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 But she said, \u201cI realize that I didn\u2019t provide those opportunities for Sandy just to share with me how she was really feeling at the time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 You know, I think as a parent you know these stories or you hear some of these stories, and you think, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll talk to my kids about this.\u201d\u00a0 But your kids will give you this \u201cYeah, Dad, okay, we know.\u00a0 We\u2019ve heard this before.\u201d\u00a0 So you do get a sense of \u201cI\u2019ve told them.\u00a0 They understand.\u00a0 I\u2019m not going to keep talking about it or they\u2019re going to start to tune me out and figure I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m talking about.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as parents you do think, \u201cI don\u2019t want to nag them about this stuff.\u201d\u00a0 So how can I tell whether I\u2019m nagging or whether I\u2019ve not said enough?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Bob, what you\u2019ve said there is true.\u00a0 But you know what, it\u2019s probably not true in the parent-child relationship when your child is still in elementary school.\u00a0 They\u2019re not likely to say, \u201cOh, Dad, there you go again.\u201d\u00a0 You actually don\u2019t typically get that response when they\u2019re in elementary school.\u00a0 At least I haven\u2019t got that response just yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 So you\u2019re saying third, fourth, fifth graders \u2013 this is where you start to engage on this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, think about it.\u00a0 I still remember bringing Ben home as an infant for the first time.\u00a0 Obviously by the time he\u2019s three and four years old, I\u2019ve gone around the house.\u00a0 I\u2019ve made sure it\u2019s kid-safe.\u00a0 I\u2019ve made sure, whether it\u2019s detergents, or whether it\u2019s bleaches, or whether it\u2019s solvents or paints or whatever in the garage, I\u2019ve made sure that whatever is potentially dangerous is out of the reach of my child.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0In the same way, as kids get older, they get to four years old or five years old or six years old, you know, they\u2019ll often typically go to reach something or use something that you know is harmful, whether it\u2019s paint thinners or whatever, and they\u2019ll see a label on there \u201cBeware.\u201d\u00a0 Again, it creates an opportunity to say, \u201cHey, listen son.\u00a0 The reason that\u2019s on there is because that is poisonous.\u00a0 These are chemicals.\u00a0 They will hurt you.\u00a0 They will harm you, so you\u2019re not to swallow them, not to play with them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo in the same way as these are chemicals, as your child gets older, they move close to the teen years, drugs are chemicals, and so they cause different reactions in the body.\u00a0 At that point your kids have had that journey, if you like.\u00a0 Talking about drugs is not an event, it\u2019s a journey.\u00a0 Really it\u2019s to take the mystique out of it and to get your kids involved in a conversation where this just becomes a normal part of your conversation, not something to be feared.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 And as I\u2019m listening to you here I\u2019m just grabbing a few practical, non-negotiables that parents ought to leave this broadcast with.\u00a0 First of all, realize that there\u2019s a problem, no matter where your kids go to school, whether they\u2019re home-schooled, whether they go to a Christian school, or a public school, they\u2019re going to run into other children.\u00a0 They\u2019re going to run into situations and opportunities beyond your control where they may encounter something dangerous.\u00a0 So the second thing they need to do is have a proactive plan that\u2019s not a one-time conversation, but frankly, it\u2019s a life-time conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Glenn: <\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I don\u2019t know that you\u2019d ever stop having a conversation with your kids.\u00a0 You\u2019re certainly not lecturing them as adults, but if you feared substance abuse with one of your adult children, I think that would be a fair conversation to have at that point.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, third, I think that the whole idea of peer pressure:\u00a0 as parents we dare not underestimate its power in our children, starting at increasingly younger and younger ages.\u00a0 I have written a book called <em>So You\u2019re About to be a Teenager.<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u00a0 Now, wait.\u00a0 Your son, Samuel and your daughter, Rebecca might take issue with the fact that you wrote that book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I co-authored the book with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were involved in the writing of that book as well, weren\u2019t they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They were very involved in that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it sold over 100,000 copies.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting, but I\u2019ve just been having conversations with Samuel as a co-author of that book, to talk about revising it, because I think the age where they need to learn some of these matters is getting younger and younger.\u00a0 That book was written for eleven- or twelve-year-olds.\u00a0 That was the target when we wrote it about six or seven years ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 Today that age is getting younger and younger where they\u2019re getting exposed to alcohol, drugs, sex, and pornography.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s the wise parent who understands the culture, the peer pressure and all that\u2019s coming at our kids on TV, in the media and on the internet.\u00a0 We have to be ahead of the game.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, and it may be that you don\u2019t need to revise the book.\u00a0 You just need to, as a parent, give it to your son or daughter at age ten rather than age eleven or twelve, given the issues that you\u2019re talking about and the fact that they are getting hit with this stuff earlier and earlier.\u00a0 Maybe you take them on a <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> weekend when they turn ten rather than wait until they are eleven or twelve.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe point is, as parents we have to be proactive on this issue.\u00a0 We have to be, as you said, ahead of the curve, and we have to have the resources to help us, whether it\u2019s the <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> weekend or the <em>So You\u2019re About to be a Teenager<\/em> book for kids, or Glen\u2019s book, <em>Talking Smack.<\/em>\u00a0 We have all of those books in our FamilyLife Today resource center.\u00a0 Folks can get more information by going online at FamilyLifeToday.com if they want to get a copy of the book.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we thought that Glen\u2019s book was so helpful for parents that this week we are making it available to folks who contact us and make a donation to the ministry.\u00a0 All you have to do is go online and make whatever donation you want to make and we\u2019ll send you a copy of the book <em>Talking Smack<\/em> by Glenn Williams.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you make a donation and you want a copy of the book, type the word \u2018TALK\u2019 in the online key code box, or call 1-800-FLTODAY, make your donation over the phone, and just mention that you\u2019d like the book on drugs that we\u2019ve been talking about.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s called <em>Talking Smack<\/em>.\u00a0 We hope that parents will get a copy of this book, and not just get a copy but read through it and then engage with your son or your daughter, whether they\u2019re ten or eleven or twelve, or 16, 17, or 18.\u00a0 It\u2019s time to start having some of these conversations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me just say a word of thanks for your support of the ministry.\u00a0 As you make a donation to help support <em>FamilyLife Today,<\/em> you\u2019re helping to keep this program on this local radio station and on our network of stations all across the country.\u00a0 We appreciate your partnership with us, and just want to say thanks in advance for whatever you are able to do in terms of a donation to help support the ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow we\u2019re going to continue this conversation with Glenn Williams talking about how we talk with our sons and daughters about drugs and alcohol.\u00a0 I hope you can tune back in and be with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today.\u00a0 Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts. 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