{"id":302116,"date":"2010-09-29T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-29T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/addressing-the-heart\/"},"modified":"2010-09-29T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-09-29T15:00:00","slug":"addressing-the-heart","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/addressing-the-heart\/","title":{"rendered":"Addressing the Heart"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are two things parents need &#8211; energy and wisdom.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-09-29.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"23.84M","filesize_raw":"24997842","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2852,2806],"tags":[4759,4798,2209],"podcast_series":[7758],"cwp_profile":[9213],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302116","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-discipline","category-spiritual-development","tag-discipline","tag-kids","tag-parenting","podcast_series-instructing-a-childs-heart","cwp_profile-tedd-and-margy-tripp","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302116\/addressing-the-heart","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302116\/addressing-the-heart","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"cZWRNoANyn\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/addressing-the-heart\/\">Addressing the Heart<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/addressing-the-heart\/embed\/#?secret=cZWRNoANyn\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Addressing the Heart&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"cZWRNoANyn\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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wisdom.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-09-29.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 As parents, we realize that we need to find our security, our hope, our everything in Jesus.\u00a0 That\u2019s something Margy Tripp says we need to be teaching our children as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Christ is for me everything that I need in order to be okay.\u00a0 Do I need a friend?\u00a0 He is the best friend.\u00a0 Do I need a comforter, a provider, a defender?\u00a0 Whatever I need, Christ is that.\u00a0 So when I say flee to the cross, beat a path of the cross, I mean teaching children that in Christ there are all the resources that we need.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday September 29<sup>th<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey.\u00a0 And I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 Tedd and Margy Tripp, join us today to talk about what it means to bring up a child in the nurture and the instruction of the Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Thanks for joining us.\u00a0 I have determined you need, you really need two things to be a parent.\u00a0 You need \u2013\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Is this like Curly\u2019s one thing in the movie?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's this one thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 One thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Two things.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Or Gary Smalley.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Here are the three things.\u00a0 Gary has three things.\u00a0 Three things that the researcher shows.\u00a0 This is powerful and profound.\u00a0 Never mind, I won\u2019t go there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But you have two things for what?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I have determined that there are two things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I can't wait.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 That every parent needs to be effective as a parent.\u00a0 The first thing is you need enough energy to sustain yourself, right?\u00a0 The second thing is you need wisdom to know how to handle whatever comes at you.\u00a0 Now, here is my question.\u00a0 God gives you kids when you have got the energy but you don\u2019t have the wisdom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Isn\u2019t that the truth?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 And now that I have got a little more wisdom but no energy \u2013\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know could we have done it all at the same time, right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, here is the deal.\u00a0 I have made this statement who knows how many times here on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\u00a0 I mistakenly thought that God gave me six kids to help them grow up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 He gave to you to help you grow up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s the point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think parenting is God\u2019s final call to a human being grow up, don\u2019t be like them.\u00a0 Put away your childishness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, that was the voice of Pastor Tedd Tripp, he joins us in the studio along with his wife Margy, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 They have book called <em>Instructing A Child\u2019s Heart<\/em> and I am going to turn right to page 41.\u00a0 You believe as you saved your book here that parenting is helping your children interpret life from God\u2019s perspective.\u00a0 The word for that in the Bible is the word Bob used Wisdom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You spell out and there are probably 10 things you list here that were what you and Margy felt like were the core issues.\u00a0 You were trying to help your children understand, share that with our audience, please.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, these things that we have listed here on these pages let me just even step behind that for a minute to say our children cannot interpret life accurately unless they understand these truths because they are really foundational truths.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRecognizing that life doesn\u2019t consistent in the abundance of possessions.\u00a0 I can't measure how well life is by how much stuff I am getting or having or retaining. Needing to walk in wisdom and to submit to God\u2019s agenda for us rather than to create my own agenda.\u00a0 Trying to understand what God is bringing into my life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Realizing there is a God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And it's not you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, that\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's not the child.\u00a0 It's not that parent.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 God is bringing life to me and I need to receive what God brings and have the wisdom to accept from God\u2019s hand what God brings me because God brings wonderful blessings.\u00a0 He also brings incredible disappointments to us.\u00a0 Life has made up of both of those things and helping children learn that God is in them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod is not just there in the wonderful things but God is there in the disappointing times too because God has a bigger agenda for me and just having me to be happy at this moment.\u00a0 He wants me to be like Christ and he uses the moments, the happiness, the unhappiness to shape me and to make me like Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know what I am going to do here.\u00a0 I am going to put all of these on our website at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.familylifetoday.com\">www.familylifetoday.com<\/a> so folks can go access them because I think they need to be able to read all 10 of these.\u00a0 But I want you to share each of you, your favorite from the remaining ones that are in this list.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, I will start by going to the last one in the list.\u00a0 There is a sowing and reaping principle in the Bible and we need to develop a harvest mentality.\u00a0 In our world, we don\u2019t like consequences.\u00a0 We want to blame everything on others.\u00a0 We are blame shifting people.\u00a0 Our children live in that culture and have been powerfully affected by it and so you will hear children on the phone saying you won't believe what my mother is doing to me now or you won't believe what my teacher is making me do.\u00a0 That\u2019s because they have been taught consistently in a culture never to take responsibility and always to pass responsibility onto someone else.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChildren need to learn that they live in a world where God has built-in consequences.\u00a0 They are both positive and negative.\u00a0 They need to understand how that works.\u00a0 If they are going to live in ways where they benefit from the consequences sometimes the negative consequences that come to them and learn to own their behavior and learn the lessons that come to us as a result of the consequences that God has built in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 What\u2019s your last favorite one, Tedd?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, I think my favorite one would be that the heart cannot be trusted.\u00a0 Jeremiah 17:9, the heart is deceitful, desperately wicked.\u00a0 We can't trust our hearts.\u00a0 One of the worst pieces of advice we can give people is just follow your heart because our hearts can't be trusted.\u00a0 The heart is as Proverbs 4:23 says the wellspring of life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that may sound very negative to say you can't trust your heart, heart is deceitful.\u00a0 But what we are really saying is that there are all kinds of desires and aspirations and goals I have within me that are very self-serving.\u00a0 It's so easy for me to become entrapped in those things and think that\u2019s what will make life work for me.\u00a0 In that sense the heart is deceitful because my heart tells me lies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes and I will give you an illustration of this.\u00a0 One time I was driving down the road with one of my children.\u00a0 I will just allow them to be anonymous here and I was talking about relating to the opposite sex.\u00a0 The child looked to me and said, \u201cDaddy, you don\u2019t trust me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said you know what, you are right sweet heart, but I want you to know first and foremost, I don\u2019t trust myself because I don\u2019t go out to lunch with other women, other than your mother.\u00a0 I don\u2019t ride alone in a car with a woman who isn\u2019t my wife.\u00a0 I don\u2019t meet behind closed doors with women by myself.\u00a0 I leave the door open if there is no window where you can see in.\u00a0 I said I want you to know I don\u2019t trust my own heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 All I am trying to do is help you understand what your boundaries are here so that you don\u2019t put yourself in a situation where you make a mistake.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong> And see the benefit of that instruction for your child is that she may be thinking she can trust yourself.\u00a0 She is too young to realize the wisdom of what you are telling to her.\u00a0 It\u2019s so important for you to be coming to her with that truth and help her to see yes that\u2019s true of you.\u00a0 It's true of me.\u00a0 It's true of everyone.\u00a0 Our hearts are filled with desires and passions, they tend to be self-serving and self-centered because we are compulsively self-loving therefore we can't trust ourselves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You put your list of these in your book but if we open up our Bibles to the middle, there is a whole book there where the King, Solomon, listed not just 10 or 100 but hundreds of principles of wisdom that are a great place for parents.\u00a0 You\u00a0\u00a0 used to take your kids out to breakfast and go through a proverbs Bible study with them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, you are talking about the Book of Proverbs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, the Book of Proverbs is that instruction from a parent to a child.\u00a0 It's these wisdom principles that we can just go to and say look, here is what the Bible says about this, here is how I have learned it and experienced it in my own life.\u00a0 Son or daughter, I want you to be wise.\u00a0 I need to implore you to be wise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And to that point the proverb say, guard your heart for from it flow the wellsprings of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And you really believe that parenting ultimately is addressing the heart.\u00a0 What do you think the scriptures are talking about Tedd when they talk about the heart?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know it's interesting.\u00a0 We tend in our culture to think of the heart as the emotional feeling side of us and the mind is that calculating reasoning side of us.\u00a0 The Bible doesn\u2019t use the term \u201cheart\u201d in that way.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe think with the hearts.\u00a0 Mary takes these things.\u00a0 She ponders it in her heart.\u00a0 We know in our hearts, know in your heart that as a man disciplines his son so the Lord disciplines you.\u00a0 We see with our heart.\u00a0 May the eyes of your heart be opened.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible uses the term heart to describe the center core of our being.\u00a0 I think that it is a basket term that carries in it other things like things about the soul, the spirit, the mind of man.\u00a0 The Bible uses the term \u201cheart\u201d as a summary term to describe all of those things.\u00a0 It's the center core of our being.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 Our emotions are of part of that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Emotions are part of that.\u00a0 Our thinking is a part of that.\u00a0 Our relationships are part of that.\u00a0 Worship is a part of that.\u00a0 Our desires.\u00a0 The Bible translates it sometimes lust or desires.\u00a0 Epithumeo is a Greek word.\u00a0 It is those epi-desires and those things have set course life for us.\u00a0 They reside within the heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 It's the personality control-center.\u00a0 Really the heart is what directs your life. Whether it's that you are ruled by your emotions or you are ruled by your thoughts or you are ruled by peer influence, it's all what controls your life. That\u2019s your heart, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0 Our hearts are also storehouses.\u00a0 We have that wonderful passage that paints this picture of the heart being a storehouse.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA good man brings good out of the good stored up in his heart and the evil man brings evil out of the evil stored up in his heart.\u00a0 What gets stored in there is profoundly important because when the mouth opens, when the hands act, when the feet go, it's going to disclose what\u2019s in the heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, the hands operate. That\u2019s why the proverbs say that we are to trust in the Lord with our whole control center.\u00a0 Our whole heart leaning not on our own understanding and in all our ways acknowledge him and he will direct our paths.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes, one of my kids said to me one time \u201cDad, I am really having trouble trusting God in this situation.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said \u201cwell, who are you trusting?\u00a0 What are you trusting?\u00a0\u00a0 Because when we are having trouble trusting God we haven\u2019t stopped being trusters.\u00a0 We are just trusting something else.\u00a0 Our own ideas, someone else\u2019s ideas but we are always trusting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We like our own wisdom better than God sometimes, don\u2019t we?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 We do one of the lists you have in your book is a description of all the adjectives in the Bible that are used to describe the heart.\u00a0 I really found this interesting.\u00a0 I am not going to read all of them but here are some of the words. Notice that some are positive and some are negative.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdulteress, astray, bitter, blighted, broken, but then there is blameless, contrite, crushed, darkened, deadened, deceitful, diluted, devoted, envious, evil, faint\u2014you can just keep on listing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You only get to the F\u2019s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I can finish it out\u2014sinful, steadfast, troubled, unfeeling, upright, unsearchable, weary, wicked, wise, and wounded.\u00a0 I mean our hearts, there is a reason why Solomon said guard your heart for from it flow the wellsprings of life. Now we have a father in the studio who has been listening to this broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 We have been getting questions from, can you call us the peanut gallery.\u00a0 It is a kind of a one-man peanut gallery.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 One-man peanut gallery, but I am just wondering if Todd has a question about the heart of one of his children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 And Todd you are the father of four, is that right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd:<\/strong>\u00a0 That is correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You have got a six-year-old, a four-year-old, a two-year-old and a one-year-old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Three-year-old and two-month-old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Okay alright and do you have a question related to the heart of your children?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Todd:<\/strong>\u00a0 Actually I do.\u00a0 Going along with the list Dennis just read our child seems to exhibit a lot of that in their heart and we have tried all forms of discipline.\u00a0 We have tried grace.\u00a0 We have tried love and we have not found anything that we can tell has got into that child\u2019s heart, so what should we do?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 How do you chase that stuff out of a child\u2019s heart?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 You can't.\u00a0 What we have to do is remain faithful.\u00a0 We have to take all of the occasions that present themselves throughout the day to address the specific issue in that long list and take the child again to the gospel to the fact that Christ is able to overcome our biggest problems.\u00a0 Then I think also and this has to do with seeing the occasions of discipline and correction as opportunities to take note of the child\u2019s deepest needs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDepending on the age of the child we need to devise prayer times certainly in the morning, approaching the day with prayer for this child\u2019s deepest needs, assuring them of Christ\u2019s ability.\u00a0 I think of 2 Peter 1:2-3 his divine power has given us, that\u2019s an act already accomplished, has given us everything we need for life in godliness.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow it is important for young children to know that they can come to us and we will help them find the cross.\u00a0 We want increasingly for them to learn how to find the cross themselves as they learn to trust Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Explain what you mean by that, for them to find the cross, what are you talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy:<\/strong>\u00a0 I believe that involved in that is seeing that relationship with God was lost in the fall.\u00a0 That wonderful connection that gave Adam and Eve everything that they needed, answered all their questions.\u00a0 If you think about it, that was the pre-fall picture of being alive, of being complete.\u00a0 Of course the fall changed all of that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut God has given the Lord Jesus Christ to bridge that gap and he has become what makes us once again alive to God.\u00a0 We are complete Christ.\u00a0 Christ is for me, everything that I need in order to be okay, do I need a friend?\u00a0 He is the best friend.\u00a0 Do I need a comforter, a provider, a defender, an advocate, a shelter of strong tower of rock.\u00a0 Whatever I need Christ is that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when I say flee to the cross, beat a path to the cross.\u00a0 I mean teaching children that in Christ there are all the resources that we need and as we come to him, certainly initially repenting and believing in him, but then over and over and over again bringing our weakness and our failure to him.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe is a sufficient savior for all of those needs.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You talk about bringing children to the cross rather than just saying bringing them to Christ, because you really want us to remember redemption in the midst of this.\u00a0 To remember that what we are bringing is our junk and you leave that at the cross where divine forgiveness is offered but you find there the power for transformation, because the Bible story doesn\u2019t end at the cross.\u00a0 It concludes with an empty tomb where the power of the resurrection is there to transform a life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd<\/strong>:\u00a0 You know I think one of the things that I just want make a sidebar comment here is that in all these things that we have been talking about as we have done these programs with you, this is all a process, it\u2019s not an event.\u00a0 So often parents are looking for an event.\u00a0 We have this big event of correction and ever after the child does exactly what I exhorted them to do.\u00a0 It\u2019s not the way it works.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>:\u00a0 It\u2019s fixed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, there are no fixes like that.\u00a0 It\u2019s in process where I am just daily living independence on God myself.\u00a0 I am bringing myself to Christ.\u00a0 I am bringing myself before my children, I failed, please forgive daddy I was very angry.\u00a0 I spoke to you in a ways I shouldn\u2019t have spoken, please forgive me.\u00a0 I have asked God to forgive me.\u00a0 I need your forgiveness, too.\u00a0 I am confessing and acknowledging my own sin.\u00a0 I am bringing them to Christ again and again.\u00a0 I am bringing God\u2019s truth again and again.\u00a0 It\u2019s a process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 And you know as you are talking about this and Dennis, I think this is critical for parents, we either parent out of the abundance of the life that we are drawing from our walk with Christ, or out of the scarcity.\u00a0 A lot of times parents are exhausted in their parenting job because there is not the abundance in their own life.\u00a0 There is not their own experience of walking with God.\u00a0 You have to have that foundation built in order to be the parent God\u2019s called you to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes and it\u2019s going back to the heart.\u00a0 What\u2019s the command to the parent as well as the child?\u00a0 It\u2019s when Jesus was asked, what\u2019s the greatest commandment in the law?\u00a0 He said you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.\u00a0 This is the great and first commandment.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have in my Bible right above this passage which is Matthew 22:34-40, I have three words written at the top of that passage, which is about the command to love God and also love your neighbor.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have these three words written the great surrender.\u00a0 It really is what a parent is training a child to learn to do for the rest of his or her life.\u00a0 Who among us can say the need for me to surrender is over and done with?\u00a0 I am still learning to surrender, learning to obey.\u00a0 I do think there is something within a parents\u2019 set of desires, he really doesn\u2019t want to be done with it Tedd, I mean to put it bluntly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd<\/strong>:\u00a0 I think you are right, that\u2019s always our temptation.\u00a0 We want it to be over and done.\u00a0 We want to never have to struggle with this again, but I want that in a lot of areas of my life.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to paint a room and never have to paint that room again but I lived in the same house since \u201878, we have painted them all several times.\u00a0 I think parenting is like that.\u00a0 It is not something we are over and done with.\u00a0 I think if we get a hold of the idea that it\u2019s a process we realize that there is a process of God\u2019s grace working in us, too.\u00a0 God is growing us, as you said earlier Dennis.\u00a0 He is teaching us our need of Christ and we are learning how to bring that need of Christ to our children, each of these kids are different.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe ways I am going to talk to one child is going to be different than to another child because they are different people.\u00a0 But I am taking in to account who they are as individuals, but bringing God\u2019s grace and God\u2019s goodness to them all the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 I just think we need to figure out a way to get to hospitals and when babies are born have them hand out a copy of Tedd &amp; Margie\u2019s book to every parent and as I hear the instructional manual go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes and instead of then setting their children on their laps and saying oh, Amy you are just a sweet, cute, lovable, sinner.\u00a0 Instead they need to set the parents on somebody\u2019s lap and\u00a0 say you have just begin to commence growing up in earnest.\u00a0 I just want you to know as we give you this child, this is God\u2019s instruction manual, this child is going to teach you more about yourself about life and about God, maybe then any other human being on the planet with the exception of our spouse.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to say thanks to you Margy and Tedd for your faithfulness over the years to write books that are not fluff.\u00a0 And there is nothing fluffy about what you have written here, this is anchored in the Bible and when you start dealing with issues of the heart it\u2019s tough stuff, and I am grateful to the God for you and hope you will come back and join us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tedd<\/strong>:\u00a0 Thank you, we have been delighted to be with you.\u00a0 It\u2019s a joy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Margy<\/strong>:\u00a0 Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob<\/strong>:\u00a0 Well and because they don\u2019t hand out the books at the hospital you can call us, you can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com and to get more information about Tedd and Margy Tripp\u2019s book <em>Instructing a Child\u2019s Heart<\/em> or about Tedd\u2019s previous book <em>Shepherding a Child\u2019s Heart<\/em> classic book.\u00a0 These are must read books for parents.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain you can get more information at FamilyLifeToday.com or, call toll-free 1-800 \"F\" as in Family, \"L\" as in Life, and then the word TODAY and we will make arrangements to have the books 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