{"id":302050,"date":"2010-06-01T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-06-01T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/lessons-from-rainier\/"},"modified":"2010-06-01T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-06-01T15:00:00","slug":"lessons-from-rainier","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/lessons-from-rainier\/","title":{"rendered":"Lessons From Rainier"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One challenging experience begets another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-06-01.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"24.19M","filesize_raw":"25363976","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2837],"tags":[4798,2209,5001],"podcast_series":[7731],"cwp_profile":[9199],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-302050","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-fathers","tag-kids","tag-parenting","tag-protecting-kids","podcast_series-dont-let-me-go","cwp_profile-david-pierce","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/302050\/lessons-from-rainier","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/302050\/lessons-from-rainier","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"bcln3V6QIB\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/lessons-from-rainier\/\">Lessons From Rainier<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/lessons-from-rainier\/embed\/#?secret=bcln3V6QIB\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Lessons From Rainier&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"bcln3V6QIB\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 David Pierce joins us today to talk about the importance of being connected heart to heart, and soul to soul with your daughters and your sons.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, thanks for joining us.\u00a0 We\u2019ve talked about the fact that you and your daughters used to go on daddy-daughter dates.\u00a0 But, you\u2019re grateful, aren\u2019t you, that none of them ever suggested anything as outlandish as our guest had to deal with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know, none of them ever had the thought of climbing a mountain.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 Do you remember anything that they wanted to do that was anything close to that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Shopping.\u00a0 You mentioned earlier Bob, that if you\u2019re going to be the dad your kids need you to be, then it\u2019s going to demand sacrifice.\u00a0 You\u2019re going to have to deny yourself at some point and it doesn\u2019t always mean that you\u2019re going to have to go to Colorado Springs and go to the trailhead, climb up from 6,700 to 14,100\u2026 to be able to do it and spend time with your daughter.\u00a0 But our guest on today\u2019s broadcast has written a book called <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s all about the journeys he\u2019s taken with his daughter.\u00a0 David Pierce joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 David, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you, Dennis.\u00a0 You know, if your choice was to go shopping or not, I think I got off easy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You think Pike\u2019s Peak may be\u2026?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think I\u2019d rather climb a mountain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This all started when your daughter came and said, \u201cI\u2019d like to climb a mountain.\u201d\u00a0 And you guys decided to go for it.\u00a0 You flew to Colorado Springs, went up Pike\u2019s Peak, and if I were you, I\u2019d have been thinking, \u201cOK, that was fun.\u00a0 Now we\u2019re done.\u201d\u00a0 But both of you came down, and thought, \u201cLet\u2019s do another.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, \u201cWhat\u2019s next?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 We were in the cab on the way to the airport, and she said, \u201cWhat will we do next?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, we\u2019ll check the bags, get a boarding pass\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cNo, no, no.\u00a0 What\u2019s our next adventure?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hadn\u2019t thought about it that way.\u00a0 But, what happened is, over the next three years, we climbed four more mountains, wound up running a couple of marathons, and I got to watch her grow up.\u00a0 I got to watch her grow into a young woman from 15, up to 18, till it was time to take her to college.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, was outdoors and fitness, kind of her thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 It was and still is.\u00a0 She tells us now, that the best Christmas present she ever got was a sleeping bag.\u00a0 She loves that.\u00a0 I like it, but\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Did you hear that?\u00a0 \u201cI like it\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I like it, it\u2019s alright\u2026\u00a0 I was never going to plan to climb a mountain, or ride a bull, nothing like that.\u00a0 But, she did open that door to me, and invited me to step into her world.\u00a0 And I said, \u201cYes.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>One thing I\u2019ve found interesting as I was going through your book, was the repeated references in various ways back to your own experience as a son with your father.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 I hadn\u2019t planned on this being a book.\u00a0 We just had a great mountain climbing experience, and I write, and I write about everything.\u00a0 So, that\u2019s what I did.\u00a0 I went back and I said, \u201cI need to write this down, just so I can document it for me.\u201d\u00a0 Then we did the marathon, so I said, \u201cThat was another cool experience, let me write that down.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe stories began to intertwine, and I thought, I don\u2019t know where it\u2019s going.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m going to say in this book.\u00a0 I finally finished the whole book, we had all our adventures and everything, but it still didn\u2019t feel right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUntil I found this quote that\u2019s in the book, I think.\u00a0 It says, \u201cThe knowledge of God is a mountain steep, and difficult to climb.\u201d\u00a0 I thought, I\u2019ve had a climb like that a long time ago, with my father.\u00a0 He was an alcoholic and it wasn\u2019t the greatest experience.\u00a0 But, he didn\u2019t become an alcoholic till I was maybe ten or eleven years old.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was seven I found God.\u00a0 I had a great experience and I thought God was my best friend.\u00a0 It was just wonderful.\u00a0 When my father became an alcoholic, I asked God to fix that.\u00a0 God didn\u2019t fix it.\u00a0 For years I kept asking God the same prayer over and over.\u00a0 \u201cPlease help him stop drinking.\u201d\u00a0 God wouldn\u2019t fix that.\u00a0 I thought I lost God.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Before you move off of that, your dad would come home and get drunk.\u00a0 Was he a quiet drunk, or was he a rowdy drunk, or abusive?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No, he was very quiet.\u00a0 When he would get drunk, he would just sit there, mumble, and he would tell me how much he loved me, all the time.\u00a0 But I couldn\u2019t believe it.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cIf you loved me, you wouldn\u2019t do that.\u201d\u00a0 I would try to strong-arm him, and say, \u201cI\u2019m not going to love you till you stop this.\u201d\u00a0 That was my eleven or twelve-year-old mentality there.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t understand what God was waiting on.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI need some help.\u00a0 Where did you go?\u201d\u00a0 So, that became my climb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I got to looking at this book that I had done, there were so many parallels.\u00a0 I thought, maybe this is what this book is about.\u00a0 I had this climb long before Chera ever came along.\u00a0 When I finished the book I thought, \u201cAs tough as the physical part of it was for Chera and me, I\u2019m so glad she did not have to do that emotional climb like I did.\u201d\u00a0 Eventually I did find God again.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Tell us.\u00a0 Finish the story.\u00a0 Because, if at age 14 you\u2019re going, \u201cGod\u2019s never fixed my dad, and I\u2019ve been asking him to do it for seven years,\u201d did you start to give up on God?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I probably did.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I was just angry.\u00a0 That anger had built a wall between God and me.\u00a0 Years and years went by, and nothing would happen.\u00a0 But then one day he was living with me at the time, my parents had divorced.\u00a0 I came home and he didn\u2019t wake up.\u00a0 I knew something wasn\u2019t right.\u00a0 He was breathing really ragged.\u00a0 We had bunk beds.\u00a0 He was on the bottom bunk.\u00a0 I remember walking in and I just knew he wasn\u2019t going to wake up.\u00a0 So, I crawled into the bunk with him, and had his head in my lap.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI began to stroke his face.\u00a0 His face was really hard and weathered.\u00a0 It looked like it was made of stone.\u00a0 But when I touched it, it was so soft and warm.\u00a0 I just touched his whole face all over.\u00a0 I kept telling him how much I loved him, over and over, and over.\u00a0 I just prayed he could hear me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was then I felt like this wall came down.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t sure what was going on at the time, but the moment that I loved my father just like he was, right where he was, this wall came down and there was God.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cThere\u2019s God, there you are!\u00a0 Where have you been?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt wasn\u2019t God that went away, or that got lost.\u00a0 It was me.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t see God because I was so angry.\u00a0 That was my summit.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I wrote in the book.\u00a0 That was my long climb to get back to God.\u00a0 Since that time, that\u2019s the message I took down from my summit.\u00a0 To love people, just like they are.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t mean you condone what they do, but I\u2019m never going to withhold love like that again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>How old were you at the time? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I was 23.\u00a0 This was just a few months before my wife and I were married.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I just want to underscore what you said there, because the fifth commandment in the Ten Commandments tell us to honor our parents, \u201c\u2026so that it may go well with you, and that you live a long life in the land that God gives you.\u201d\u00a0 I think it\u2019s more than just a physical settling of a country or of a piece of property.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s a sense of well-being that you\u2019re describing here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do finally turn the corner and forgive, give up the right to punish, and find a way to return love, even if your dad didn\u2019t love you in return.\u00a0 It\u2019s at that point you as a man, I think grow up to the point where you can take a wife.\u00a0 You can say, \u201cI do,\u201d and you can become a father yourself.\u00a0 Then begin to love your children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 I think I even write in the book that it was about a year after that, a little over a year that Chera was born.\u00a0 Someone asked me in another interview, they said, \u201cWas there an event, something that happened in your life where you just realized that you want to be in your daughter\u2019s world?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cYes, the day she was born,\u201d from the very get-go.\u00a0 I think we learn from our parents.\u00a0 A lot of times we learn what we want to be.\u00a0 They teach us what it is that we want to be.\u00a0 Then there are times where we learn what we don\u2019t want to be.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy father taught me some good things.\u00a0 He taught me a good work ethic, I took those things.\u00a0 But he showed me a lot of what I didn\u2019t want to be.\u00a0 So, I knew that with my daughter and my kids, I want to be in their world.\u00a0 I want to understand their language, what it is they like and don\u2019t like, and I want to be there to answer questions.\u00a0 All these things I didn\u2019t get from my father, but I thought, this is the way I\u2019m going to go.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know exactly where to go.\u00a0 But I knew where to stay away from, and that\u2019s how I operated a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think my journey parallels the mountain climbing journey.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know how to climb a mountain, and that\u2019s what I bring out in the book.\u00a0 How inept I was at training and climbing and what to expect, the pain.\u00a0 My journey as a father was a lot like that.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know how to be a father.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t have training; I didn\u2019t have a role model.\u00a0 I stumbled into some things, swerved into others, made mistakes, but what I wanted to do in the book was be vulnerable.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I messed up, I was the first to say, \u201cI messed up, I didn\u2019t know this.\u201d\u00a0 Because of that kind of attitude, I could turn it around really quickly and learn something.\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you what I learned from my daughter.\u00a0 We had a moment on the mountain where we were on Mount Rainier.\u00a0 To climb Mount Rainier you have to go through an evaluation that\u2019s a one day training.\u00a0 Part of that training, is that you have to keep up with the guide.\u00a0 You hike about two miles up to the snow field, on a glacier, then you play with the ice axe all day, which is my idea of fun.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the guide puts on this big backpack and he says, \u201cOK, keep up with me,\u201d and he was a really tall wiry guy.\u00a0 We couldn\u2019t keep up with a tall wiry guy.\u00a0 He just took off at a fast pace.\u00a0 They told us, on the way up there, one of the guides said, \u201cYou guys haven\u2019t been able to keep up, so we\u2019re not going to let you climb tomorrow.\u201d\u00a0 I was devastated.\u00a0 I was rocked.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cWow!\u00a0 We came all the way out here.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been planning and training for this.\u201d\u00a0 So, I had to tell Chera.\u00a0 She was sitting on her backpack on the ice.\u00a0 I went up to her and said, \u201cChera, they\u2019re not going to let us climb.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe just nodded and said, \u201cYou know what, I didn\u2019t think so.\u00a0 As I was walking up, I could see the summit.\u201d\u00a0 And you could, Mount Rainier was just glorious.\u00a0 We could see it.\u00a0 She said, \u201cI could see the summit, and I was praying to God.\u00a0 I said, \u2018God, please either help me get to the top of this mountain, or teach me something.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight then I thought, a lot of times kids want to be like their parents when they grow up.\u00a0 I thought at that moment, I want to be like my kid.\u00a0 I want that kind of attitude.\u00a0 I have claimed that over and over.\u00a0 Every time something wrong or bad happens, I remember that and say, \u201cGod, just teach me something here, because, I messed this up already.\u00a0 Now, let me learn something.\u201d\u00a0 I learned that from her on the mountain.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I brought down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know, there are some lessons to be learned because you weren\u2019t able to make it to the top of Mount Rainier, the first time.\u00a0 But you circled the wagons, and you and your daughter made another pass at it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We did.\u00a0 We were down low, and my plan was, I had this image:\u00a0 we\u2019re going to summit Mount Rainier and what a great ending to the story that we\u2019re doing here.\u00a0 And we didn\u2019t.\u00a0 Somebody came down and said, \u201cI just hiked up to base camp, it was a lot of fun.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cReally?\u00a0 Just by yourself?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cYes.\u201d\u00a0 So, I looked at Chera and she looked at me, and said, \u201cLet\u2019s do that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were at 6,200 feet, base camp was at 10,000.\u00a0 So, the next morning, we got up and went back.\u00a0 The team we had failed on was headed out.\u00a0 So, our goal was to beat them to base camp.\u00a0 So, we took off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, we have to describe what you\u2019re walking on here because this is not like Pike\u2019s Peak.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No.\u00a0 The first couple of miles was a nice little trail, a lot of tourists were there.\u00a0 Then at about two miles, you hit what\u2019s called the snow field.\u00a0 It\u2019s really just a glacier.\u00a0 There are no switchbacks, so that\u2019s a plus.\u00a0 The downside is, it\u2019s just straight up.\u00a0 You\u2019re on ice, and you have to wear these spiked shoes called, crampons so you don\u2019t fall off the mountain.\u00a0 It\u2019s just a matter of hour after hour just going straight up on this ice.\u00a0 Base camp, like I said is at 10,000 feet.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we headed out, and hit the ice field, and we got our crampons on.\u00a0 It was rather warm that day so Chera had taken off her sweatshirt and her glacier glasses.\u00a0 You have to wear sunglasses.\u00a0 They call them glacier glasses because they have little side protectors on so the sun doesn\u2019t get in.\u00a0 Because, the sun can hurt your eyes, like a welder\u2019s torch.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe\u2019d lost hers.\u00a0 We got to the snow field and she figured it was about a mile back.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have enough time because we\u2019ll miss the bus at the end of the day.\u00a0 So I told her, \u201cWe can\u2019t do this then.\u201d\u00a0 Chera said, \u201cWe have to Dad.\u201d\u00a0 She was begging.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWe can\u2019t risk your eyesight.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cOK, then I\u2019ll blindfold myself.\u201d\u00a0 So she took a bandana and tied it around her eyes and said, \u201cOK, I\u2019ll follow your voice, you just go ahead.\u201d\u00a0 So, I\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, now again, we have to paint the picture.\u00a0 We\u2019re talking about a steep ice field where, if you started sliding, on this thing\u2026<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, if you fell you\u2019d just roll a little ways, and then stop.\u00a0 It\u2019s not as steep there.\u00a0 Now, at the upper mountain, yes, we wouldn\u2019t do that.\u00a0 But on this we were just crunching along on the ice, packed down snow kind of stuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And she\u2019s blindfolded.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>She\u2019s blindfolded.\u00a0 It looks like I\u2019m leading a hostage up the side of this mountain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So, we\u2019re going along for about an hour.\u00a0 I said, \u201cAre you sure you want to keep doing this?\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cYes keep going, we\u2019re going to make it to the base camp.\u201d\u00a0 There was a gentleman coming down and he has his glacier glasses on, but I notice he has another pair hanging around his neck.\u00a0 So right away I decided I\u2019m going to buy those glasses.\u00a0 Whatever they cost, I\u2019m going to buy them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we stop and we talk with him.\u00a0 I asked him about the glasses.\u00a0 He keeps looking at Chera like, \u201cAre you OK?\u00a0 Young lady are you alright?\u201d\u00a0 I assured him that we lost her glasses.\u00a0 I said, \u201cHow much would you sell those for?\u201d\u00a0 Immediately he takes them off, \u201cNo, you take these.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Chera puts them on and says, \u201cWow!\u00a0\u00a0 This is beautiful!\u201d\u00a0 So, we keep going.\u00a0 She said, \u201cI\u2019ll bet that was an angel.\u201d\u00a0 At that moment we turned around and he\u2019s gone.\u00a0 So, we thought, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me\u2014an angel!\u201d\u00a0 But, just then we see his head bob up.\u00a0 He\u2019s gone down to a little dip in the ice.\u00a0 Chera turns to me and says, \u201cLet\u2019s still say he was an angel.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cAll right.\u00a0 He was.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But you made it all the way to base camp with her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Your first mountain adventure with your daughter was in 1999.\u00a0 She was 15 years old.\u00a0 So today she\u2019s married?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 I write about what I call our last climb.\u00a0 It was the day that I gave her away.\u00a0 She got married in the backyard.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know if I was going to make it.\u00a0 It\u2019s a brick walkway.\u00a0 Step number two wobbles a little bit.\u00a0 But, I know it wobbles.\u00a0 I tell people to watch out for the wobble, and everything is OK.\u00a0 Chonda told me to fix it, but I keep putting it off.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we get to the top and I don\u2019t know if I can make it.\u00a0 She\u2019s got my arm, we\u2019re stepping down, and everybody has bets on when I\u2019m going to lose it.\u00a0 Usually it\u2019s step one or two.\u00a0 \u201cHe\u2019s not going to make it that far down.\u00a0 He\u2019s going to lose it.\u201d\u00a0 I get to step two and it wobbles, and I forgot it wobbles.\u00a0 It kind of throws me a little bit.\u00a0 But I correct, and Chera says something to me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a mountain climbing thing.\u00a0 It was so simple, I can\u2019t even remember now what it was.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t remember five minutes after she said it.\u00a0 I just know that it was a mountain climbing thing, and it calmed me so much, that I chuckled.\u00a0 Then she laughed, and the rest of the way we just laughed and talked all the way down to the end.\u00a0 I\u2019m standing there, and I\u2019m remembering the (rehearsal) ceremony from the night before, because, that\u2019s when I really lost it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy brother-in-law performed the ceremony.\u00a0 During the instruction time he said, \u201cCraig, you\u2019re over here, Chera, you\u2019re over here, David you stand here.\u00a0 When I give the word, here\u2019s what I want you to do.\u201d\u00a0 He\u2019s very matter-of-fact.\u00a0 He said, \u201cHere\u2019s what I want you to do.\u00a0 I want you to take Chera\u2019s hand, I want you to pass it over to Craig, and let go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cLet go?\u00a0 That\u2019s it?\u00a0 Just like that?\u00a0 Let go?\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cYes, yes.\u201d\u00a0 I don\u2019t think he got the significance of that.\u00a0 But it just went all through me, and I thought, \u201cThis is going to be the hardest thing in the world.\u201d\u00a0 But we got through it.\u00a0 (At the wedding) I passed her hand off to his, and I went down and sat next to her mother.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was all I could do to keep from laughing.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t crying, I was just so happy for her.\u00a0 She even told me in a card that she gave me.\u00a0 \u201cThis is not our last adventure.\u00a0 I just have someone else to share it with now.\u00a0 Someone that can keep up with me,\u201d is what she said.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s a great illustration of, really how a father\u2019s heart ought to be knit to his daughter\u2019s heart.\u00a0 There\u2019s really not much to be said about that, Bob.\u00a0 Other than just saying:\u00a0 if you have a little girl, you don\u2019t start when she\u2019s fifteen.\u00a0 You start all the way back when she\u2019s four, and you do the Pierce Family Show, like you did\u2014or your version of it, obviously\u2014but you pursue that little girl\u2019s heart.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when you make that handoff\u2014I didn\u2019t laugh when I made the handoff.\u00a0 I was choking out the words, because I got a few words in.\u00a0 I thought, if I\u2019m going to pay for this wedding, I\u2019m going to make more than just a handoff here when I place my daughter\u2019s hand in the man who would become her husband.\u00a0 I think being a little girl\u2019s daddy has to be one of the great privileges in all of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019ll tell you.\u00a0 The title of this book wasn\u2019t my idea.\u00a0 The editor called one day and said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got a new title.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cOK, hit me.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cIt\u2019s called, <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go.<\/em>\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cThat didn\u2019t hit me.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know about that.\u201d\u00a0 So, I called Chera up.\u00a0 I said, \u201cHere\u2019s what they want.\u00a0 They want to call it, <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go<\/em>,\u201d and she began to cry.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWhat was that about?\u201d\u00a0 She told me, \u201cDad, just because I\u2019m grown, just because you gave me away in marriage, I don\u2019t want you to stop being my father.\u00a0 I want you to call me, ask me about school, and ask me about life.\u00a0 I want you to mentor my husband.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had not had that mentality before.\u00a0 My thinking was like the country music songs.\u00a0 \u201cShe\u2019s growing up, I\u2019m giving her away, and I\u2019ll never see her again.\u201d\u00a0 But, that\u2019s not true.\u00a0 I still get to be her father.\u00a0 And, I still call her every day.\u00a0 We have the best time.\u00a0 No matter how many times we get together, somebody has a mountain climbing story.\u00a0 Every time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well David, I appreciate you coming and joining us and sharing these stories with us.\u00a0 I think there are going to be some dads that might go home tonight a little more purposeful and intentional as they think about their daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There may be more dads and daughters along Pike\u2019s Peak trail as a result of what we\u2019ve heard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We may be talking to some daughters who are thinking, \u201cI wonder if daddy would like to\u2026\u201d\u00a0 and they fill in the blank.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Young lady, just do it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We\u2019ve got copies of David\u2019s book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center.\u00a0 You can get in touch with us online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Or, you can call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 1-800-358-6329, that\u2019s 1-800 F as in \u201cfamily\u201d L as in \u201clife\u201d and then the word TODAY.\u00a0 You can request a copy of the book when you call, or again go online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 There\u2019s more information about David\u2019s book available there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to take just a minute and say thanks to those of you who help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Some of you do it on a regular basis, we appreciate that.\u00a0 Some of you call in from time to time or go online and make a donation.\u00a0 Maybe there\u2019s a particular program that you hear, and you think \u201cI just want to express my thanks for that program by making a donation to help support the ministry.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhatever it is that prompts you to go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make a donation or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a donation, we appreciate it.\u00a0 We\u2019re listener supported.\u00a0 So, if nothing prompts you, then all of a sudden we have to make some hard decisions about the radio program and whether it can continue in particular cities.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis month if you\u2019re able to help support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation of any amount, we\u2019d love to send you a copy of a book that was written a few years ago by Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A.\u00a0 For years, he has been involved in teaching Sunday school to young men, boys who are just on the verge of manhood.\u00a0 In the process of doing that, he\u2019s learned a lot of lessons about the importance of pouring into a young man\u2019s life.\u00a0 He wrote a book called, <em>It\u2019s Better to Build Boys, Than Mend Men<\/em>.\u00a0 We\u2019d like to send a copy of that book to you as our thank you gift when you support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> this month with a donation of any amount.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you make your donation online, if you\u2019d like a copy of the book, type the word \u201cBOYS\u201d in the key-code box on the online donation form.\u00a0 Or, just call 1-800-FLTODAY, make a donation and say, \u201cI\u2019d like a copy of that book about building boys,\u201d and we\u2019ll be happy to send it out to you.\u00a0 We do appreciate your financial partnership with us and your support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you\u2019ll be back with us tomorrow, when Louis Upkins is going to join us to talk about how the lights went on for him one evening when his wife said to him, \u201cI wish you\u2019d treat me the way you\u2019d treat your customers.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that tomorrow.\u00a0 I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today Keith Lynch and our entire broadcast production team. 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 David Pierce joins us today to talk about the importance of being connected heart to heart, and soul to soul with your daughters and your sons.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, thanks for joining us.\u00a0 We\u2019ve talked about the fact that you and your daughters used to go on daddy-daughter dates.\u00a0 But, you\u2019re grateful, aren\u2019t you, that none of them ever suggested anything as outlandish as our guest had to deal with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know, none of them ever had the thought of climbing a mountain.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 Do you remember anything that they wanted to do that was anything close to that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Shopping.\u00a0 You mentioned earlier Bob, that if you\u2019re going to be the dad your kids need you to be, then it\u2019s going to demand sacrifice.\u00a0 You\u2019re going to have to deny yourself at some point and it doesn\u2019t always mean that you\u2019re going to have to go to Colorado Springs and go to the trailhead, climb up from 6,700 to 14,100\u2026 to be able to do it and spend time with your daughter.\u00a0 But our guest on today\u2019s broadcast has written a book called <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go<\/em>.\u00a0 It\u2019s all about the journeys he\u2019s taken with his daughter.\u00a0 David Pierce joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 David, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Thank you, Dennis.\u00a0 You know, if your choice was to go shopping or not, I think I got off easy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You think Pike\u2019s Peak may be\u2026?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think I\u2019d rather climb a mountain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>This all started when your daughter came and said, \u201cI\u2019d like to climb a mountain.\u201d\u00a0 And you guys decided to go for it.\u00a0 You flew to Colorado Springs, went up Pike\u2019s Peak, and if I were you, I\u2019d have been thinking, \u201cOK, that was fun.\u00a0 Now we\u2019re done.\u201d\u00a0 But both of you came down, and thought, \u201cLet\u2019s do another.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, \u201cWhat\u2019s next?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 We were in the cab on the way to the airport, and she said, \u201cWhat will we do next?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, we\u2019ll check the bags, get a boarding pass\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cNo, no, no.\u00a0 What\u2019s our next adventure?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hadn\u2019t thought about it that way.\u00a0 But, what happened is, over the next three years, we climbed four more mountains, wound up running a couple of marathons, and I got to watch her grow up.\u00a0 I got to watch her grow into a young woman from 15, up to 18, till it was time to take her to college.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, was outdoors and fitness, kind of her thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 It was and still is.\u00a0 She tells us now, that the best Christmas present she ever got was a sleeping bag.\u00a0 She loves that.\u00a0 I like it, but\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Did you hear that?\u00a0 \u201cI like it\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I like it, it\u2019s alright\u2026\u00a0 I was never going to plan to climb a mountain, or ride a bull, nothing like that.\u00a0 But, she did open that door to me, and invited me to step into her world.\u00a0 And I said, \u201cYes.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>One thing I\u2019ve found interesting as I was going through your book, was the repeated references in various ways back to your own experience as a son with your father.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 I hadn\u2019t planned on this being a book.\u00a0 We just had a great mountain climbing experience, and I write, and I write about everything.\u00a0 So, that\u2019s what I did.\u00a0 I went back and I said, \u201cI need to write this down, just so I can document it for me.\u201d\u00a0 Then we did the marathon, so I said, \u201cThat was another cool experience, let me write that down.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe stories began to intertwine, and I thought, I don\u2019t know where it\u2019s going.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m going to say in this book.\u00a0 I finally finished the whole book, we had all our adventures and everything, but it still didn\u2019t feel right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUntil I found this quote that\u2019s in the book, I think.\u00a0 It says, \u201cThe knowledge of God is a mountain steep, and difficult to climb.\u201d\u00a0 I thought, I\u2019ve had a climb like that a long time ago, with my father.\u00a0 He was an alcoholic and it wasn\u2019t the greatest experience.\u00a0 But, he didn\u2019t become an alcoholic till I was maybe ten or eleven years old.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was seven I found God.\u00a0 I had a great experience and I thought God was my best friend.\u00a0 It was just wonderful.\u00a0 When my father became an alcoholic, I asked God to fix that.\u00a0 God didn\u2019t fix it.\u00a0 For years I kept asking God the same prayer over and over.\u00a0 \u201cPlease help him stop drinking.\u201d\u00a0 God wouldn\u2019t fix that.\u00a0 I thought I lost God.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Before you move off of that, your dad would come home and get drunk.\u00a0 Was he a quiet drunk, or was he a rowdy drunk, or abusive?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No, he was very quiet.\u00a0 When he would get drunk, he would just sit there, mumble, and he would tell me how much he loved me, all the time.\u00a0 But I couldn\u2019t believe it.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cIf you loved me, you wouldn\u2019t do that.\u201d\u00a0 I would try to strong-arm him, and say, \u201cI\u2019m not going to love you till you stop this.\u201d\u00a0 That was my eleven or twelve-year-old mentality there.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t understand what God was waiting on.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI need some help.\u00a0 Where did you go?\u201d\u00a0 So, that became my climb.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I got to looking at this book that I had done, there were so many parallels.\u00a0 I thought, maybe this is what this book is about.\u00a0 I had this climb long before Chera ever came along.\u00a0 When I finished the book I thought, \u201cAs tough as the physical part of it was for Chera and me, I\u2019m so glad she did not have to do that emotional climb like I did.\u201d\u00a0 Eventually I did find God again.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Tell us.\u00a0 Finish the story.\u00a0 Because, if at age 14 you\u2019re going, \u201cGod\u2019s never fixed my dad, and I\u2019ve been asking him to do it for seven years,\u201d did you start to give up on God?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I probably did.\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I was just angry.\u00a0 That anger had built a wall between God and me.\u00a0 Years and years went by, and nothing would happen.\u00a0 But then one day he was living with me at the time, my parents had divorced.\u00a0 I came home and he didn\u2019t wake up.\u00a0 I knew something wasn\u2019t right.\u00a0 He was breathing really ragged.\u00a0 We had bunk beds.\u00a0 He was on the bottom bunk.\u00a0 I remember walking in and I just knew he wasn\u2019t going to wake up.\u00a0 So, I crawled into the bunk with him, and had his head in my lap.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI began to stroke his face.\u00a0 His face was really hard and weathered.\u00a0 It looked like it was made of stone.\u00a0 But when I touched it, it was so soft and warm.\u00a0 I just touched his whole face all over.\u00a0 I kept telling him how much I loved him, over and over, and over.\u00a0 I just prayed he could hear me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was then I felt like this wall came down.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t sure what was going on at the time, but the moment that I loved my father just like he was, right where he was, this wall came down and there was God.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cThere\u2019s God, there you are!\u00a0 Where have you been?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt wasn\u2019t God that went away, or that got lost.\u00a0 It was me.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t see God because I was so angry.\u00a0 That was my summit.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I wrote in the book.\u00a0 That was my long climb to get back to God.\u00a0 Since that time, that\u2019s the message I took down from my summit.\u00a0 To love people, just like they are.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t mean you condone what they do, but I\u2019m never going to withhold love like that again.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>How old were you at the time? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I was 23.\u00a0 This was just a few months before my wife and I were married.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I just want to underscore what you said there, because the fifth commandment in the Ten Commandments tell us to honor our parents, \u201c\u2026so that it may go well with you, and that you live a long life in the land that God gives you.\u201d\u00a0 I think it\u2019s more than just a physical settling of a country or of a piece of property.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s a sense of well-being that you\u2019re describing here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do finally turn the corner and forgive, give up the right to punish, and find a way to return love, even if your dad didn\u2019t love you in return.\u00a0 It\u2019s at that point you as a man, I think grow up to the point where you can take a wife.\u00a0 You can say, \u201cI do,\u201d and you can become a father yourself.\u00a0 Then begin to love your children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\u00a0 I think I even write in the book that it was about a year after that, a little over a year that Chera was born.\u00a0 Someone asked me in another interview, they said, \u201cWas there an event, something that happened in your life where you just realized that you want to be in your daughter\u2019s world?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cYes, the day she was born,\u201d from the very get-go.\u00a0 I think we learn from our parents.\u00a0 A lot of times we learn what we want to be.\u00a0 They teach us what it is that we want to be.\u00a0 Then there are times where we learn what we don\u2019t want to be.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy father taught me some good things.\u00a0 He taught me a good work ethic, I took those things.\u00a0 But he showed me a lot of what I didn\u2019t want to be.\u00a0 So, I knew that with my daughter and my kids, I want to be in their world.\u00a0 I want to understand their language, what it is they like and don\u2019t like, and I want to be there to answer questions.\u00a0 All these things I didn\u2019t get from my father, but I thought, this is the way I\u2019m going to go.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know exactly where to go.\u00a0 But I knew where to stay away from, and that\u2019s how I operated a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think my journey parallels the mountain climbing journey.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know how to climb a mountain, and that\u2019s what I bring out in the book.\u00a0 How inept I was at training and climbing and what to expect, the pain.\u00a0 My journey as a father was a lot like that.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know how to be a father.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t have training; I didn\u2019t have a role model.\u00a0 I stumbled into some things, swerved into others, made mistakes, but what I wanted to do in the book was be vulnerable.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I messed up, I was the first to say, \u201cI messed up, I didn\u2019t know this.\u201d\u00a0 Because of that kind of attitude, I could turn it around really quickly and learn something.\u00a0 I\u2019ll tell you what I learned from my daughter.\u00a0 We had a moment on the mountain where we were on Mount Rainier.\u00a0 To climb Mount Rainier you have to go through an evaluation that\u2019s a one day training.\u00a0 Part of that training, is that you have to keep up with the guide.\u00a0 You hike about two miles up to the snow field, on a glacier, then you play with the ice axe all day, which is my idea of fun.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the guide puts on this big backpack and he says, \u201cOK, keep up with me,\u201d and he was a really tall wiry guy.\u00a0 We couldn\u2019t keep up with a tall wiry guy.\u00a0 He just took off at a fast pace.\u00a0 They told us, on the way up there, one of the guides said, \u201cYou guys haven\u2019t been able to keep up, so we\u2019re not going to let you climb tomorrow.\u201d\u00a0 I was devastated.\u00a0 I was rocked.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cWow!\u00a0 We came all the way out here.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been planning and training for this.\u201d\u00a0 So, I had to tell Chera.\u00a0 She was sitting on her backpack on the ice.\u00a0 I went up to her and said, \u201cChera, they\u2019re not going to let us climb.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe just nodded and said, \u201cYou know what, I didn\u2019t think so.\u00a0 As I was walking up, I could see the summit.\u201d\u00a0 And you could, Mount Rainier was just glorious.\u00a0 We could see it.\u00a0 She said, \u201cI could see the summit, and I was praying to God.\u00a0 I said, \u2018God, please either help me get to the top of this mountain, or teach me something.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight then I thought, a lot of times kids want to be like their parents when they grow up.\u00a0 I thought at that moment, I want to be like my kid.\u00a0 I want that kind of attitude.\u00a0 I have claimed that over and over.\u00a0 Every time something wrong or bad happens, I remember that and say, \u201cGod, just teach me something here, because, I messed this up already.\u00a0 Now, let me learn something.\u201d\u00a0 I learned that from her on the mountain.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I brought down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You know, there are some lessons to be learned because you weren\u2019t able to make it to the top of Mount Rainier, the first time.\u00a0 But you circled the wagons, and you and your daughter made another pass at it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We did.\u00a0 We were down low, and my plan was, I had this image:\u00a0 we\u2019re going to summit Mount Rainier and what a great ending to the story that we\u2019re doing here.\u00a0 And we didn\u2019t.\u00a0 Somebody came down and said, \u201cI just hiked up to base camp, it was a lot of fun.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cReally?\u00a0 Just by yourself?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cYes.\u201d\u00a0 So, I looked at Chera and she looked at me, and said, \u201cLet\u2019s do that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were at 6,200 feet, base camp was at 10,000.\u00a0 So, the next morning, we got up and went back.\u00a0 The team we had failed on was headed out.\u00a0 So, our goal was to beat them to base camp.\u00a0 So, we took off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, we have to describe what you\u2019re walking on here because this is not like Pike\u2019s Peak.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No.\u00a0 The first couple of miles was a nice little trail, a lot of tourists were there.\u00a0 Then at about two miles, you hit what\u2019s called the snow field.\u00a0 It\u2019s really just a glacier.\u00a0 There are no switchbacks, so that\u2019s a plus.\u00a0 The downside is, it\u2019s just straight up.\u00a0 You\u2019re on ice, and you have to wear these spiked shoes called, crampons so you don\u2019t fall off the mountain.\u00a0 It\u2019s just a matter of hour after hour just going straight up on this ice.\u00a0 Base camp, like I said is at 10,000 feet.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we headed out, and hit the ice field, and we got our crampons on.\u00a0 It was rather warm that day so Chera had taken off her sweatshirt and her glacier glasses.\u00a0 You have to wear sunglasses.\u00a0 They call them glacier glasses because they have little side protectors on so the sun doesn\u2019t get in.\u00a0 Because, the sun can hurt your eyes, like a welder\u2019s torch.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe\u2019d lost hers.\u00a0 We got to the snow field and she figured it was about a mile back.\u00a0 We don\u2019t have enough time because we\u2019ll miss the bus at the end of the day.\u00a0 So I told her, \u201cWe can\u2019t do this then.\u201d\u00a0 Chera said, \u201cWe have to Dad.\u201d\u00a0 She was begging.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWe can\u2019t risk your eyesight.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cOK, then I\u2019ll blindfold myself.\u201d\u00a0 So she took a bandana and tied it around her eyes and said, \u201cOK, I\u2019ll follow your voice, you just go ahead.\u201d\u00a0 So, I\u2026\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, now again, we have to paint the picture.\u00a0 We\u2019re talking about a steep ice field where, if you started sliding, on this thing\u2026<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, if you fell you\u2019d just roll a little ways, and then stop.\u00a0 It\u2019s not as steep there.\u00a0 Now, at the upper mountain, yes, we wouldn\u2019t do that.\u00a0 But on this we were just crunching along on the ice, packed down snow kind of stuff.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And she\u2019s blindfolded.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>She\u2019s blindfolded.\u00a0 It looks like I\u2019m leading a hostage up the side of this mountain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So, we\u2019re going along for about an hour.\u00a0 I said, \u201cAre you sure you want to keep doing this?\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cYes keep going, we\u2019re going to make it to the base camp.\u201d\u00a0 There was a gentleman coming down and he has his glacier glasses on, but I notice he has another pair hanging around his neck.\u00a0 So right away I decided I\u2019m going to buy those glasses.\u00a0 Whatever they cost, I\u2019m going to buy them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we stop and we talk with him.\u00a0 I asked him about the glasses.\u00a0 He keeps looking at Chera like, \u201cAre you OK?\u00a0 Young lady are you alright?\u201d\u00a0 I assured him that we lost her glasses.\u00a0 I said, \u201cHow much would you sell those for?\u201d\u00a0 Immediately he takes them off, \u201cNo, you take these.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Chera puts them on and says, \u201cWow!\u00a0\u00a0 This is beautiful!\u201d\u00a0 So, we keep going.\u00a0 She said, \u201cI\u2019ll bet that was an angel.\u201d\u00a0 At that moment we turned around and he\u2019s gone.\u00a0 So, we thought, \u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me\u2014an angel!\u201d\u00a0 But, just then we see his head bob up.\u00a0 He\u2019s gone down to a little dip in the ice.\u00a0 Chera turns to me and says, \u201cLet\u2019s still say he was an angel.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cAll right.\u00a0 He was.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But you made it all the way to base camp with her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Your first mountain adventure with your daughter was in 1999.\u00a0 She was 15 years old.\u00a0 So today she\u2019s married?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right.\u00a0 I write about what I call our last climb.\u00a0 It was the day that I gave her away.\u00a0 She got married in the backyard.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know if I was going to make it.\u00a0 It\u2019s a brick walkway.\u00a0 Step number two wobbles a little bit.\u00a0 But, I know it wobbles.\u00a0 I tell people to watch out for the wobble, and everything is OK.\u00a0 Chonda told me to fix it, but I keep putting it off.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we get to the top and I don\u2019t know if I can make it.\u00a0 She\u2019s got my arm, we\u2019re stepping down, and everybody has bets on when I\u2019m going to lose it.\u00a0 Usually it\u2019s step one or two.\u00a0 \u201cHe\u2019s not going to make it that far down.\u00a0 He\u2019s going to lose it.\u201d\u00a0 I get to step two and it wobbles, and I forgot it wobbles.\u00a0 It kind of throws me a little bit.\u00a0 But I correct, and Chera says something to me.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a mountain climbing thing.\u00a0 It was so simple, I can\u2019t even remember now what it was.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t remember five minutes after she said it.\u00a0 I just know that it was a mountain climbing thing, and it calmed me so much, that I chuckled.\u00a0 Then she laughed, and the rest of the way we just laughed and talked all the way down to the end.\u00a0 I\u2019m standing there, and I\u2019m remembering the (rehearsal) ceremony from the night before, because, that\u2019s when I really lost it.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy brother-in-law performed the ceremony.\u00a0 During the instruction time he said, \u201cCraig, you\u2019re over here, Chera, you\u2019re over here, David you stand here.\u00a0 When I give the word, here\u2019s what I want you to do.\u201d\u00a0 He\u2019s very matter-of-fact.\u00a0 He said, \u201cHere\u2019s what I want you to do.\u00a0 I want you to take Chera\u2019s hand, I want you to pass it over to Craig, and let go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cLet go?\u00a0 That\u2019s it?\u00a0 Just like that?\u00a0 Let go?\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cYes, yes.\u201d\u00a0 I don\u2019t think he got the significance of that.\u00a0 But it just went all through me, and I thought, \u201cThis is going to be the hardest thing in the world.\u201d\u00a0 But we got through it.\u00a0 (At the wedding) I passed her hand off to his, and I went down and sat next to her mother.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was all I could do to keep from laughing.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t crying, I was just so happy for her.\u00a0 She even told me in a card that she gave me.\u00a0 \u201cThis is not our last adventure.\u00a0 I just have someone else to share it with now.\u00a0 Someone that can keep up with me,\u201d is what she said.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s a great illustration of, really how a father\u2019s heart ought to be knit to his daughter\u2019s heart.\u00a0 There\u2019s really not much to be said about that, Bob.\u00a0 Other than just saying:\u00a0 if you have a little girl, you don\u2019t start when she\u2019s fifteen.\u00a0 You start all the way back when she\u2019s four, and you do the Pierce Family Show, like you did\u2014or your version of it, obviously\u2014but you pursue that little girl\u2019s heart.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when you make that handoff\u2014I didn\u2019t laugh when I made the handoff.\u00a0 I was choking out the words, because I got a few words in.\u00a0 I thought, if I\u2019m going to pay for this wedding, I\u2019m going to make more than just a handoff here when I place my daughter\u2019s hand in the man who would become her husband.\u00a0 I think being a little girl\u2019s daddy has to be one of the great privileges in all of life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019ll tell you.\u00a0 The title of this book wasn\u2019t my idea.\u00a0 The editor called one day and said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got a new title.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cOK, hit me.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cIt\u2019s called, <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go.<\/em>\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cThat didn\u2019t hit me.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know about that.\u201d\u00a0 So, I called Chera up.\u00a0 I said, \u201cHere\u2019s what they want.\u00a0 They want to call it, <em>Don\u2019t Let Me Go<\/em>,\u201d and she began to cry.\u00a0 I said, \u201cWhat was that about?\u201d\u00a0 She told me, \u201cDad, just because I\u2019m grown, just because you gave me away in marriage, I don\u2019t want you to stop being my father.\u00a0 I want you to call me, ask me about school, and ask me about life.\u00a0 I want you to mentor my husband.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had not had that mentality before.\u00a0 My thinking was like the country music songs.\u00a0 \u201cShe\u2019s growing up, I\u2019m giving her away, and I\u2019ll never see her again.\u201d\u00a0 But, that\u2019s not true.\u00a0 I still get to be her father.\u00a0 And, I still call her every day.\u00a0 We have the best time.\u00a0 No matter how many times we get together, somebody has a mountain climbing story.\u00a0 Every time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well David, I appreciate you coming and joining us and sharing these stories with us.\u00a0 I think there are going to be some dads that might go home tonight a little more purposeful and intentional as they think about their daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There may be more dads and daughters along Pike\u2019s Peak trail as a result of what we\u2019ve heard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We may be talking to some daughters who are thinking, \u201cI wonder if daddy would like to\u2026\u201d\u00a0 and they fill in the blank.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>There you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Young lady, just do it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>We\u2019ve got copies of David\u2019s book in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center.\u00a0 You can get in touch with us online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 Or, you can call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 1-800-358-6329, that\u2019s 1-800 F as in \u201cfamily\u201d L as in \u201clife\u201d and then the word TODAY.\u00a0 You can request a copy of the book when you call, or again go online at FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 There\u2019s more information about 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