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lives.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2010-05-24.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>The latest statistic I\u2019ve found is that the average household has at least three copies of the Bible in the house.\u00a0 You know what I\u2019m always asking people is I just say, \u201cLook be honest with me.\u00a0 Are you studying the Bible\u201d?\u00a0 They kind of look down and say, \u201cNo, not really.\u201d\u00a0 I just say \u201cwhy,\u201d and they say \u2013 the number one excuse that we all give is \u201cI don\u2019t have enough time.\u201d\u00a0 One of my favorite quotes is from a great teacher Howard Hendricks.\u00a0 He says, \u201cWe know enough to own a Bible but we don\u2019t know enough for the Bible to own us.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, May 24<sup>th<\/sup>.\u00a0 Our host is the President of FamilyLife Dennis Rainey and I\u2019m Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk today about how all of us can utilize technology to dig down deeper into God\u2019s word, and find the treasure that is there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> thanks for joining us.\u00a0 Okay I was listening back to some old <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>programs not long ago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 How old were they?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, we got started 1992 right \u2013 do you remember back then?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I do.\u00a0 They were encrypted all the way back then?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think this one I had pulled out was from either \u201997 or \u201998 but here\u2019s what was funny.\u00a0 We were talking about internet safety for children and you asked the guest, \u201cNow explain to our listeners just what the internet is?\u201d\u00a0 I mean you go back to 1997 and 1998 that was kind of new.\u00a0 Novelist Al Gore had just invented the Internet back then right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes \u2013 okay!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, it\u2019s just amazing to think about the technological revolution that we\u2019ve lived through in our lifetime\u2014not just in our lifetime; in the last decade.\u00a0 It\u2019s been amazing, and I don\u2019t see it slowing down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s interesting a huge portion of the Internet is used for evil, and a huge portion of the Internet is being used for good.\u00a0 I think the question for all of us is how do you use technology in your family to strengthen your family, to strengthen your walk with God?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a guest today who I believe has a tool that\u2019s every bit as useful as a shovel.\u00a0 If you were going to start a garden which parenting can be compared to growing a garden for future generations.\u00a0 We have a guy who has some software tools that are going to help you address your children, meet them where they are, and equip them to live life where they\u2019re going to live it \u2013 in a very high tech age.\u00a0 Scott Lindsey joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> \u2013 welcome back Scott.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s good to be back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I\u2019m amazed you came back!\u00a0 You know Bob and I well, we weren\u2019t rough on you last time but we were pretty tough on you because you\u2019re a tech guy.\u00a0 You are the Ministry Relations Director for Logos Bible Software and you really have a passion for the church and individuals to be able to tie in the scriptures, and to be able to not only understand it themselves, but pass it along to others.\u00a0 This really is what we\u2019re about here on <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>\u2013 helping families, helping marriages apply scripture in their lives everyday.\u00a0 It\u2019s what you\u2019re about too right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, I mean technology is greatly impacting just about every area of our life, and yet sadly much of our Bible study practice is years past.\u00a0 So, what we\u2019re trying to do is introduce people to Bible study using technology.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStatistically just ask any denomination or major ministry that focuses on Bible study and getting people in the word \u2013 it\u2019s a sad statistic on who is actually studying scripture.\u00a0 So, the passion at Logos is to say look do you have a computer?\u00a0 Do you get on the computer?\u00a0 Hey let\u2019s study the Bible on the computer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Let me give you an illustration of what I think has happened.\u00a0 The other day I received something that I couldn\u2019t believe was sent to me.\u00a0 It was wrapped in a clear, plastic wrapper, and when I got it I literally burst out laughing.\u00a0 You know what it was?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I have no idea!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yellow pages!\u00a0 I thought why is the telephone company sending this to me?\u00a0 If that thing is still alive five years from today it will be a miracle wouldn\u2019t you say?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh right, right!\u00a0 You\u2019ll see it on Antique Road Show.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, and you\u2019re saying a lot of Bible study being done today by followers of Christ is like using the yellow pages.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right \u2013 right exactly right!\u00a0 See I know that many people just heard the word technology or the word software, and a little chill went up and down the spine.\u00a0 I understand that.\u00a0 What they need to know is that all we\u2019re doing is taking the books they\u2019ve trusted for years \u2013 authors that they\u2019ve trusted for years:\u00a0 MacArthur, and Piper, and Josh McDowell and people that have spent their lives studying scripture \u2013 we\u2019re taking those books and putting them on the computer so we\u2019re not changing anything.\u00a0 What we\u2019re changing is the format in which you study.\u00a0 The benefit though is how fast we can get you answers to biblical questions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I want to back you up because you said that the statistics related to studying the Bible are pretty grim.\u00a0 We live in an age where we have more access, we have more tools at our disposal, people in their homes many of them have five, six, seven, eight, a bunch of copies of the Bible and yet I was just with Dr. Woodrow Kroll who\u2019s the President of Back to the Bible and he said, \u201cPeople just aren\u2019t cracking the book open.\u201d\u00a0 What is going on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, the latest statistic I\u2019ve found was that the average household has at least three copies of the Bible in the house.\u00a0 And yet one of my favorite quotes is from a great teacher Howard Hendricks, and he says, \u201cWe know enough to own a Bible but we don\u2019t know enough for the Bible to own us.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s really what we\u2019re trying to do at Logos is the number one excuse \u2013 I\u2019m always asking people, \u201cLook be honest with me \u2013 are you studying the Bible?\u201d\u00a0 They kind of look down and say \u201cno, not really.\u201d\u00a0 I just say \u201cwhy,\u201d and the number one excuse that we all give is \u201cI don\u2019t have enough time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe wonderful thing about Logos is literally by typing in a Bible verse or a topic \u2013 the word \u201ctabernacle,\u201d what does the Bible say about marriage, I want to know about David, or I\u2019m studying Romans chapter 8 or my Pastor\u2019s going through Acts.\u00a0 Just type the verse or the topic, click one button and Logos literally does fifty to sixty hours worth of biblical research in about five to ten seconds.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I know this because I have Logos on my computer and I use it regularly.\u00a0 It opens up to the right page - whatever books you have in your Logos library.\u00a0 It opens them up to the right page says here\u2019s where this author addressed this passage, or this subject or whatever else and so you get to scan every reference to that subject or that passage instantly, and see what everybody in your library had to say about that subject, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s not only having a library because that\u2019s important.\u00a0 If you\u2019re going to get serious and have a systematic approach to Bible study you have to have a good library.\u00a0 You have to have a couple commentaries, a couple dictionaries, and a couple translations.\u00a0 So, not only are we bringing you the library but Logos is literally like having theologians that kind of live with you that teach you the Bible.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s like having historians that bring you back to the world of the Bible, and it\u2019s even like having your own scholars that kind of live with you that can help you even with the biblical languages.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it\u2019s not just the books that come with the library, but it\u2019s the back end technology that literally gets you to what you want to find in a matter of seconds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay we don\u2019t have a television camera that is focused on us so we can show our listeners what we\u2019re actually looking at here but I have Logos up on my computer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>No wait, I\u2019m looking.\u00a0 You have the older version, don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I have the older version, Scott!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You haven\u2019t upgraded to Logos 4!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Bob indicated he had a later version than I did \u2013 can you explain how that happened Scott?\u00a0 I don\u2019t think you can \u2013 can you Scott?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Uh \u2013 where\u2019s the exit?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t(laughter)\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Okay there are three categories that a person can do some searching on.\u00a0 The first one is a passage of scripture \u2013 you can do a verse right, or a passage right, or you can pull up the whole book.\u00a0 Okay the other categories are study a word.\u00a0 So you take a word, and I\u2019m going to ask you to do this in just a second.\u00a0 Or the last one is to study a topic.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan we illustrate that for our listeners?\u00a0 Tell me a verse to type in and then tell our listeners what is unpacked before them after they\u2019ve typed this verse in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, I just recently taught at a women\u2019s conference and I wanted to show the practical use of Logos.\u00a0 What\u2019s interesting is you don\u2019t even have to know the verse as long as you know the name of the story.\u00a0 So, I just went into that one little box and typed \u201cwoman at the well\u201d.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>You typed that into the passage \u2013 to the verse box?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Into the verse box.\u00a0 I just typed \u201cwoman at the well\u201d.\u00a0 Logos says, \u201cOops Scott you mean John 4: 1-26.\u201d\u00a0 I said yes that\u2019s exactly what I mean and I just click one button.\u00a0 Now when I clicked the one button literally in a matter of seconds Logos did 50 to 60 hours worth of biblical research.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, it opens my Bible and it opens a commentary.\u00a0 It links those so that as I scroll through my Bible my commentary follows.\u00a0 It also brings back all the other commentaries I have, cross references this is a huge part in understanding the Bible as a whole is linking the passages you\u2019re studying to the rest of the Bible \u2013 Old Testament, New Testament, brings in parallel passages so you know is this parable in the other Gospels \u2013 it will show me that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt brings in biblical people so who\u2019s mentioned in the passage, and then their genealogies, and their relationships.\u00a0 I mean Logos automatically finds all the relationships for a particular person throughout the whole Bible, and there\u2019s 3,600 people mentioned in the Bible.\u00a0 It will find all their genealogies for you.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s especially important for the Old Testament because it gets really confusing \u2013 who\u2019s this person, who are they related to.\u00a0 It will also find biblical places so if there are any city names we\u2019ll bring you to maps to kind of illustrate that place.\u00a0 We\u2019ll even link you to Google, satellite image maps if you want.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, illustrate how important that is to the woman at the well \u2013 why is the location important there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>The location is important because she was from an area that Jesus was not supposed to associate with these people.\u00a0 So, Logos will find that cultural background for you as well which is really important.\u00a0 You should start studying a Bible first by getting the cultural perspective, the historical background.\u00a0 These are the types of things that Logos just does for you automatically.\u00a0 Interesting as I scroll through the woman at the well the other passion at Logos is word studies. We\u2019re a big word study company so we want to get you into the Greek, into the Hebrew.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, and I have to tell you anytime I talk to Dennis who\u2019s been using his Logos that\u2019s what you do more than anything else isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It\u2019s about 50\/50 now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Is it between passage study and word study?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>It is.\u00a0 Right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Dennis will say I was just doing this word study on whatever word that you want to drill down into and what Logos gives you is just not like a concordance.\u00a0 It will tell you where that word is found in the English translation of the Bible but it pops up the Greek, it pops up other use, I mean it takes you deep into understanding the words.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>But it does it in plain English that\u2019s what I like about it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Not only plain English but very simple!\u00a0 The problem if you will with people that want to do word studies is again you have to go buy a lot of books \u2013 very expensive books actually, and it\u2019s very tedious and time consuming.\u00a0 So, the thing about Logos:\u00a0 Here I am at verse 24 where Jesus responds to the woman and says, \u201cThat God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll I have to do with Logos is float my cursor \u2013 just float my little mouse \u2013 the little arrow on the word truth.\u00a0 You know I\u2019ve read this passage so many times I kind of theologically understand what Jesus is referring to when He says that they must worship in spirit but I\u2019ve always wondered what does it mean to worship in truth?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I float my cursor and instantly Logos brings up the Greek for the word and pronounces the Greek for me.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want to show up at Bible study and say the word agape here for love.\u00a0 Right it\u2019s \u201cagape.\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ll pronounce the word for you but what I\u2019m finding out is instantly it\u2019s saying that the word here means to hide nothing.\u00a0 The word truth means to hide nothing!\u00a0 It means to come to the Lord, lay down everything at His feet, don\u2019t hide.\u00a0 Be honest.\u00a0 I mean that\u2019s the kind of insight that we\u2019re getting from these types of tools, and all I did was float on the word truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>As you were talking I couldn\u2019t help but go back to a class I took from Dr. Howard Hendricks:\u00a0 You quoted him earlier.\u00a0 \u201cProf\u201d as I refer to him has been a mentor, and a friend.\u00a0 I slipped in the back of his classes in 1971 at Dallas Theological Seminary.\u00a0 But, he taught a class that was renowned.\u00a0 It was Bible study methods.\u00a0 It basically was teaching what you\u2019re talking about here.\u00a0 He taught about how you find the context for a passage of scripture, how you understand its meaning within that context, and then how you study it, and ultimately apply it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>People hear you talk about a seminary class on Bible study methods and I think some of them will think well okay that\u2019s for seminary people.\u00a0 But the reality is if any of us are going to be serious students of the Bible which by the way the Bible calls us to be:\u00a0 Study to show yourself approved a workman who is rightly dividing the word.\u00a0 If you\u2019re going to be a serious student of the Bible you don\u2019t just open it up and say well I hope I get this.\u00a0 You have to have some basic understanding of what the principles are for getting it right.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right \u2013 this is my thirteenth year at Logos.\u00a0 One of the things that I\u2019m having to do now when I teach at a conference that is different than maybe ten years ago is I now have to spend about five to ten minutes explaining the difference between exegesis, and isagesis.\u00a0 Exegesis comes from the Greek root meaning to lead out of.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, let me just say you\u2019re not talking about Jesus \u2013 that\u2019s gesis!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well, and these are big words but I want moms and dads, husbands and wives, single folks to listen because what Scott\u2019s about to talk to you about is in my opinion one of the biggest problems of how Christ followers are misappropriating and misusing the Bible today.\u00a0 They\u2019re really missing the benefit of what the scripture teaches because of this very issue.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, everybody has a hermeneutic.\u00a0 A hermeneutic is simply the process in which you interpret the Bible.\u00a0 Even a non-believer has an opinion or framework in which they interpret the Bible.\u00a0 Hopefully it is different for somebody that has the mind of Christ.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s really only two ways in which we formalize that hermeneutic \u2013 there\u2019s exegesis, and isagesis.\u00a0 Now exegesis again comes from the Greek root meaning <em>to lead out of<\/em> so this is the process in which we interpret the text <em>by <\/em>what it<em> actually <\/em>says.\u00a0 So, this is where the text leads <em>you<\/em> in the interpretation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, isagesis is from the Greek root meaning<em> into<\/em> so this is the process of \u2013 now listen here \u2013 misinterpreting the text <em>by <\/em>introducing your<em> own <\/em>ideas.\u00a0 So, this is where you lead the text in your interpretation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And you get it to say what you want it to say or what you think it should say rather than it telling you what it\u2019s actually saying.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right, and I hope I don\u2019t have to stress to the FamilyLife listeners that exegesis is good, isagesis is bad.\u00a0 There are four main steps to exegesis just to continue with this train of thought.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first one is observation \u2013 so we simply ask the question what does the passage say?\u00a0 Then there\u2019s second \u2013 interpretation:\u00a0 What does the passage mean?\u00a0 And then thirdly, and this is so, so important is correlation:\u00a0 How does the passage relate to the rest of the Bible?\u00a0 And then fourthly application:\u00a0 How should I submit to the authority of scripture, and what I\u2019m learning here?\u00a0 So, that\u2019s the four main basic steps of exegesis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, isagesis contains mainly three steps.\u00a0 Number one is what I call imagination.\u00a0 So, what I did.\u00a0 What do <em>I<\/em> want to present here?\u00a0 Secondly is exploration\u2014what scripture passage seems to best fit my idea, and then thirdly application but a little different here:\u00a0 What does my idea mean?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut notice here there\u2019s no number three \u2013 correlation!\u00a0 How does the word, how does the text relate to the other parts of the Bible?\u00a0 So, there\u2019s no cross referencing, there\u2019s no solid scholarship orthodoxy here, no biblical language analysis, no real context, and that is really dangerous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>As you were talking Scott I was thinking about my Mom.\u00a0 One of her most prized possessions was her Scofield Bible, and the reason she liked it was because of all the cross-references that were found in the pages of that Bible, and the work that a scholar had done to create that.\u00a0 If you compared Logos to the Scofield Bible give me some comparison?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Scott:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh, it would be like comparing a lemonade stand to Super Wal-Mart or something like that.\u00a0 I mean there are so many more options.\u00a0 There\u2019s just so much more insight and that\u2019s really what we want to provide for everybody that wants to get serious about Bible study.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any more excuses because of technology because we provide a great theological library but also the technology that gets you to the answers really quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I was really excited at graduation a year ago when my son said to me you know what I\u2019d really love to have for graduation from high school is a Logos library on my computer.\u00a0 He\u2019d seen mine.\u00a0 He\u2019d seen me work with it.\u00a0 He\u2019d seen how quickly I could get stuff done and he said I would love to have the Logos library for graduation.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, so you think I\u2019m going to go get him something else?\u00a0 You think I\u2019m going to buy him a camera?\u00a0 You think I\u2019m going to buy him a\u2026 Come on if your son wants that for a graduation present we\u2019re getting him loaded up with the best one we can get him.\u00a0 He\u2019s been thrilled to have it and to use it as he\u2019s gone off to college.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Here\u2019s the reason why that\u2019s so important \u2013 2 Timothy 3:16 \u201cAll scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training and righteousness.\u201d\u00a0 Now who doesn\u2019t need all four of those from time to time \u2013 I do!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat the man of God may be competent equipped for every good work.\u00a0 If there has ever been an age when families needed to be multiplying a godly legacy that knows how to handle this book it\u2019s today because it\u2019s not getting any easier to apply the truths of scripture today.\u00a0 There are all kinds of fresh opportunities including the Internet to be able to disobey the scripture, and to get off into sin that\u2019s going to trap you.\u00a0 The scripture equips us for every good work!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s really what we\u2019re talking about here.\u00a0\u00a0 We\u2019re talking about families doing a better job bringing the Bible home and teaching their children what they should be doing which is how to apply it in their lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Well and Scott and the team up at Logos have really done a favor for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners.\u00a0 They\u2019ve put together a special offer that is available for a limited time for <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listeners.\u00a0 If you\u2019re interested in ordering any of the different Logos libraries in the new Logos 4 software you can save money by identifying yourself as a <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listener.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s what you do:\u00a0 You go to our website FamilyLifeToday.com.\u00a0 There\u2019s a link there that will take you to an area of the Logos website and all you have to do is type in the coupon code \u201cFLT\u201d after you\u2019ve looked at what you want to purchase, and there\u2019s a discount available for those of you who are listening to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, Scott thanks to you guys for making that available for our listeners and for any listeners who are interested go to FamilyLifeToday.com follow the link.\u00a0 Make sure you use the coupon code \u201cFLT\u201d if you are interested in any of the software libraries, and then the folks at Logos will get it sent out to you and be there to help you and support you with any questions that you have as you install it or if you have questions as you start using your software.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt really is a wonderful tool!\u00a0 I love using the software and am in it regularly and have really profited from having this tool available.\u00a0 So again go to FamilyLifeToday.com click on the link to the Logos software website or if you want to call us here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> call 1-800-FL-TODAY we can pass along a phone number and you can do the whole thing by telephone if that\u2019s easier.\u00a0 Either go online at FamilyLifeToday.com or call us at 1-800-FLTODAY for more information about the Logos Bible study software.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow a quick reminder for our regular listeners\u2014next Monday is the last day that we have available to receive donations to try to meet the matching gift fund that has been established for us here during the month of May.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve not heard about this we\u2019ve had some friends who came and pledged to match every donation we receive on a dollar for dollar basis up to a total of now almost $350,000 that has been pledged.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are hoping to take full advantage of that, we still have a ways to go, and we have essentially a week left to do it.\u00a0 So, if you can make a donation today either online, at FamilyLifeToday.com or by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY, that 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