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Our host is the President of FamilyLife, Dennis Rainey and I'm Bob Lepine.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk today about ways that churches and families can work together more effectively to raise a generation of young people who know and love Christ.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, thanks for joining us.\u00a0 You know, I think if parents ever had the idea in mind that the way their kids would grow up to embrace Christ was to drop them off at church and the church would get that taken care of and send them back as Christ followers, I think that myth has been debunked by now, and parents realize that isn\u2019t going to work.\u00a0 Don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Less than 10% of these young people are going to keep their faith upon graduation from college.\u00a0 We\u2019re losing a generation of young people.\u00a0 Really I think not so much because the church hasn\u2019t done the job.\u00a0 I think the real responsibility comes back to family, it comes back to homes.\u00a0 When I think about that, I have to wonder what we\u2019re modeling.\u00a0 Are we really modeling an infectious Christianity that communicates to our children that our first love is Christ and His work and the work of the Kingdom?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Yes, I think what you\u2019re saying is, our kids have to be able to see in our lives that what matters to us: how we spend our time, how we invest our talents and our abilities, how we invest our money, and where our treasure goes shows that our priority is what God is trying to accomplish on earth.\u00a0 They need to see this if we want that to be their priority.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>That really provides a great opportunity to tell our listeners that here in the month of May we have the opportunity for them to give a gift.\u00a0 And, I think model for their children that they not only believe in God\u2019s work.\u00a0 But they also believe in family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>So, you\u2019re talking about the whole family together getting the kids together and letting them know about the matching gift fund.\u00a0 That\u2019s what you\u2019re making reference to.\u00a0 We\u2019ve had a matching gift fund established here at FamilyLife during the month of May, where every donation we receive is going to be matched dollar-for-dollar up to a total of, now more than $300,000.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019re hoping to take full advantage of that matching gift.\u00a0 But here\u2019s an opportunity to get the family together and say, \u201cThis is something mom and dad really believe in.\u00a0 So we\u2019ve decided to make a $20 or $50 or $100 donation to FamilyLife to help support what God is doing through that ministry.\u00a0 And our donation is going to be doubled and we\u2019re doing this because mom and dad really think this is an important thing for us to be investing in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s right, Bob.\u00a0 I just want our listeners to know I need their help.\u00a0 We\u2019re running a bit behind where we need to be right now in terms of our giving.\u00a0 If you\u2019ve benefitted from this broadcast, if you\u2019d like to make it possible for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> to continue to come into your car, your home, your place of work or on your iPod, if you\u2019ve benefited, what I\u2019d like to challenge you to do is go to FamilyLifeToday.com, and look up in the right hand corner where it says \u201cDonate.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019d like you click on that button and make a generous gift.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do, it\u2019ll be matched dollar-for-dollar.\u00a0 My promise to you is that not only will we continue to come here every day on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with timeless, biblical principles to your home but I think you\u2019re going to be modeling values to your children and your children\u2019s children for decades to come.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Right, right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And, our guest on today\u2019s broadcast, Brian Haynes, that\u2019s his voice, you just heard him, \u201cRight, right\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>I agree with you man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 He\u2019s written a book called <em>Shift: What It Takes to Finally Reach Families Today.<\/em>\u00a0 Brian is the Spiritual Formation Pastor at Kingsland Baptist Church in Katy, Texas.\u00a0 He\u2019s been doing that since 2003.\u00a0 He has three daughters.\u00a0 He and his wife have been giving leadership down there for a number of years.\u00a0 Your wife is kind of like Barbara and Mary Ann Lepine.\u00a0 I married a wife who is pretty strong.\u00a0 She\u2019s never hesitated to speak the truth to me.\u00a0 It\u2019s my understanding that your wife gave you a wake-up call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Oh yes, a big wake-up call.\u00a0 I found myself working hard in ministry, sold out to my calling to the local church and all of that.\u00a0 I was serving in a church that, at the time, began to decline.\u00a0 We began to lose some people, some great people.\u00a0 I thought if I worked harder, longer hours, if I could make more things happen, somehow from this secondary role I was in at that church, I could turn this thing around.\u00a0 I worked hard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was frustrated during that time.\u00a0 I would come home and vomit on her, garbage from church.\u00a0 One night we sat and I began to do that.\u00a0 We were sitting on the couch, watching TV and talking at the same time.\u00a0 She just quietly said in the midst of all that, \u201cYou\u2019re losing us.\u201d\u00a0 At the time I had a four-year-old daughter.\u00a0 My wife is my high-school sweetheart.\u00a0 I\u2019ve loved her since she was fifteen-years-old.\u00a0 To hear her say that broke my heart.\u00a0 It just penetrated my soul.\u00a0 I thought, \u201cI\u2019m losing you?\u00a0 What are you talking about?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe began to tell me that I was so busy shepherding everybody else that I didn\u2019t have time to tell my own daughter a bedtime story, or to talk to her about the Bible right before she goes to bed every night, and pray with her.\u00a0 Because, I would come in and she would be asleep, and I would leave in the morning and she would still be asleep.\u00a0 I just began to pray and seek the Lord and repent honestly; because I was, in the name of the work of the Lord, totally neglecting my marriage and my family, with the best of intentions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know it\u2019s not just guys in ministry where that\u2019s happening.\u00a0 Guys can get sold out to whatever career or vocation they\u2019re in.\u00a0 But, you do have to stop and wonder, is this the common pattern in our culture today?\u00a0 Where young men\u2014in ministry or whatever vocation\u2014are investing themselves fully in the pursuit of a vocation, a career and neglecting their responsibilities for discipling at home.\u00a0 When it comes to spiritual formation in the home, fundamentally the responsibility falls to dad.\u00a0 Doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 I see that very clearly in Scripture.\u00a0 Certainly there are family situations where that just can\u2019t happen.\u00a0 But, for the most part, biblically, dad\u2019s got to take that role and run with it.\u00a0 He\u2019s been designed uniquely to do it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Now, you say that, and dads that are listening are going, \u201cI don\u2019t feel designed uniquely to do it.\u00a0 In fact, I feel inept and incompetent.\u201d One of the reasons guys are investing themselves in work is because they win at work.\u00a0 People cheer them on and say, you\u2019re doing a good job.\u00a0 They get home and they feel like absolute failures.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 The rewards are instant.\u00a0 Raising a family is like growing an oak forest.\u00a0 It takes a long time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>And you feel, every night when you say, \u201cOK kids, we\u2019re going to talk about the Bible,\u201d and they go \u201cOh Dad, please no.\u00a0 Don\u2019t make us do that.\u201d\u00a0 And you go, \u201cWell, why would I want to stay here and face opposition like this on a daily basis?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 Definitely we live in a microwave culture, where we want in thirty seconds everything to come to fruition.\u00a0 Spiritual formation at home is not like that.\u00a0 My four-year-old is now ten.\u00a0 Out of that \u201cYou\u2019re losing us\u201d moment, we made a significant decision to pray and seek the Lord and make whatever transition we needed to make to prioritize our lives the way the Bible says to do it.\u00a0 Even, if that meant getting out of the ministry, if it meant going somewhere else in the ministry.\u00a0 God orchestrated a move that was beautiful and perfect for us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 But you\u2019re talking about making a radical change to your schedule, even if it cost you your job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Radical, absolutely.\u00a0 This is the hard part of this.\u00a0 Because, when you say \u201cWe are going to train our kids spiritually.\u201d\u00a0 You have to make time to do it.\u00a0 You have to be there to catch the moments, to have the faith-talks to celebrate the milestones, all of that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we moved to our current ministry situation, which is very family-friendly.\u00a0 It\u2019s an incredible situation.\u00a0 Fruit has been two of my daughter\u2019s salvation experiences because I\u2019ve been home to answer the questions.\u00a0 I\u2019ve been part of their lives to walk it out with them.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>Those moments you described with young children who respond to the faith, and profess and pray and want to trust Christ.\u00a0 That\u2019s one of the spiritual milestones.\u00a0 You talked about the baby dedication being the first milestone.\u00a0 It really sets parents on a path to spiritual formation in the home right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 Our whole goal there is to teach the parent, \u201cYou are the primary faith influencer.\u201d\u00a0 Each one of these milestones has a seminar that we offer.\u00a0 We teach them in the seminar, what you need to teach your kids in faith-talks over the next few years.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do you do it?\u00a0 What are the best resources for it?\u00a0 Who are the pastors that can help walk alongside you?\u00a0 Or who are other couples, other men, other women who can help you as you lead your child through this next phase of their spiritual development?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 There are seven spiritual milestones that you walk families through that the church and families work together to make happen.\u00a0 But you also believe in what Barbara and I call \u201csandbox theology.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s getting down on a child\u2019s level and helping explain what God\u2019s up to as they\u2019re living their lives.\u00a0 You call it \u201cGod sightings.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Share with our listeners what a \u201cGod sighting\u201d looks like and then give us one from your family.\u00a0 How you worked it out.\u00a0 Because I really think as families explain God to their kids and how we can trust Him, it\u2019s through everyday life which is Deuteronomy 6 again.\u00a0 Every day life that\u2019s coming at us, where we\u2019re teaching our kids, \u201cHow do we walk by faith?\u00a0 How do we trust Him?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 God sightings are moments along the way, the circumstances of life that God provides for us to speak truth into.\u00a0 Primarily you have to be there to catch them.\u00a0 If you\u2019re not there, you\u2019re not going to catch them.\u00a0 You miss out of them, and your kids miss out.\u00a0 We ask parents to pray for wisdom to see them, and then what we do is say \u201cCapture them, nail them when they happen.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA great example from our family life, one night I was tucking Maddy our seven-year-old in bed.\u00a0 We were going through our bed-time routine with the helicopter.\u00a0 Where I pick her up and I twirl her around and launch her into bed every night, then we tell a story and pray, then go to bed.\u00a0 Also sing some songs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>By the way, you need to know.\u00a0 In our family there were a lot of God sightings by the kids at bedtime.\u00a0 They were trying to drag it out.\u00a0 \u201cOh Daddy, would you read another story?\u00a0 We want to talk about God now.\u201d\u00a0 Go ahead and share.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s 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Finally, she got smart and devised a plan.\u00a0 The plan was I\u2019m at the water fountain; this mean girl has gotten herself behind me.\u00a0 I\u2019m going to splash myself with water and tell the teacher that the mean girl splashed me with water.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, she did that.\u00a0 The mean girl got in trouble, because everybody knew that was the mean girl.\u00a0 Right?\u00a0 She gets in trouble, goes to the principal\u2019s office, all of this.\u00a0 So a couple of months go by till that moment when we\u2019re laying in her bed and she starts weeping.\u00a0 She tells me this story.\u00a0 You know what I got to do that night, in the darkness of her room; I got to talk to her about what conviction is.\u00a0 I got to say, \u201cYou know that feeling in your stomach that\u2019s just eating you alive?\u00a0 That\u2019s the Spirit of God saying to you, \u2018Maddy, come back to me.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 I got to talk to her about what repentance was and confession.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI told a lie Daddy.\u201d\u00a0 She confessed it to me.\u00a0 But how do you confess it to the Lord.\u00a0 Then we got to talk about\u2014all in 10 minutes\u2014we got to talk about reconciliation of relationships.\u00a0 The next day we asked her to call her teacher that she had lied to, we asked her to call this friend and apologize and seek their forgiveness.\u00a0 They were all gracious and she learned a huge lesson.\u00a0 To me that was God sighting.\u00a0 It was a God moment where he showed up, he was convicting her in her life, and I was able to be there, just to speak into that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife was able to be there the next day to handle the phone calls, and help people understand.\u00a0 It was just a moment that we had to catch.\u00a0 Now, I focus on that one because I really believe for her that was the beginning of her understanding of why she needed Jesus in her heart.\u00a0 I think that was the first time she really thought, \u201cI think I might do bad things.\u00a0 I might sin.\u201d\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t me pointing it out and putting her in time-out, as much as the Holy Spirit convicting her and her confession.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was one of those things we teach parents in our parents\u2019 seminars to watch for.\u00a0 Not that you check the \u201csalvation\u201d box off as soon as they can say the magic words, but you watch for the Holy Spirit to work in their life and begin to convict them and draw them to Him.\u00a0 That\u2019s what was happening that night.\u00a0 It was a God moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 There are not only these significant, spontaneous moments that come along, but every parent needs to be alert to the fact that emotional, physical, spiritual, developmental stages there are milestone moments.\u00a0 You talk about pre-adolescence being one of those milestone moments.\u00a0 Then you talk about, a commitment to purity that comes at almost the same time, right there at the beginning of the teen years.\u00a0 Right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 We do, we call milestone three \u201cPreparing for Adolescence,\u201d and milestone four \u201cCommitment to Purity.\u201d\u00a0 You have to be a little bit fluid with this.\u00a0 It can\u2019t be step one, step two, step three, but you have to know your kid and what they\u2019re dealing with and the culture you live in.\u00a0 Sometimes those things kind of happen all at one time.\u00a0 Sometimes it\u2019s a little bit separated.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMilestone three is really helping them understand their identity in Christ.\u00a0 Me, as a dad, pouring that truth into my daughter, \u201cYou are special because God made you special.\u00a0 He\u2019s got a plan for you.\u00a0 No relationship you will ever have in life will be your identity.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn our case, Angela, my wife is pouring into her.\u00a0 \u201cHere\u2019s why your body is changing, here\u2019s why the thoughts in your head are going crazy and your emotions are going crazy.\u00a0 It\u2019s happening to you and this is what it is.\u00a0 It\u2019s all natural, and it\u2019s all good.\u201d\u00a0 She helps her celebrate becoming a woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe commitment to purity is more about understanding that biblical purity is for life; before marriage and after marriage, and what that looks like biblically.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 To that point around the whole subject of purity, one of the things I found interesting that you pointed out in your book, is you did a little non-scientific survey of the junior high boys and the senior high boys.\u00a0 How many of them had looked at pornography in the last 30 days?\u00a0 Now, these are church kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Church kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 Church kids in junior high and senior high.\u00a0 What percentage of the junior high boys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the percentage of junior high boys was something like 80% or 90%.\u00a0 It was high.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember exactly.\u00a0 But for high school it was almost 100%.\u00a0 This was a camp setting, I was there teaching an \u201cEvery Man\u2019s Battle\u201d kind of talk.\u00a0 I asked all the adults to leave the room and just a show of hands.\u00a0 Unashamedly, most all of them from seventh to twelfth grade had looked at pornography in the last 30 days.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 This was how long ago?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 This was three years ago, maybe four.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019m going to tell you something.\u00a0 The battle has intensified\u2026.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 I believe you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 In the past three or four years, and what you\u2019re talking about doing with families, it is desperately needed today to protect the next generation from being damaged by evil.\u00a0 What\u2019s happening today to America\u2019s youth, because the family isn\u2019t functioning the way it\u2019s supposed to be, is wrong.\u00a0 It\u2019s absolutely wrong.\u00a0 You can\u2019t control what your kid sees at somebody else\u2019s house.\u00a0 I understand all that.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut, what\u2019s happening is, I don\u2019t think enough parents are doing what you\u2019re talking about here.\u00a0 They are not stepping into the battle and going \u201cHow can we first and foremost prepare our ten, eleven and twelve-year-old for adolescence?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 They are not playing offense.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 They are not intentional about it at all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 That\u2019s what I love about what you\u2019re trying to point people to in the book, and you\u2019re trying to encourage churches to get in this joint relationship with families.\u00a0 You\u2019re trying to encourage moms and dads to be right in the thick of this, to be purposeful, intentional, to play offense, not just defense.\u00a0 Figure out what are the major issues you\u2019re going to have to wrestle with as parents as you raise your kids all the way to adulthood.\u00a0 Then get a game plan put together to make that happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0 And persevere, just don\u2019t quit.\u00a0 This is not about doing it perfectly.\u00a0 Brian has shared some of his own efforts to educate his kids and train them.\u00a0 It isn\u2019t going to occur in a storybook fashion.\u00a0 But as a parent you just need to hang in there and keep on. Because you are going to have your children a very brief period of time, to train and equip for life.\u00a0 But, you are the most\u2014in my opinion, humanly speaking\u2014the most powerful influences in your child\u2019s life that they\u2019ll ever experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brian:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely.\u00a0 Every sane psychologist in the country will tell you that the most important relationship in any person\u2019s life is their family of origin.\u00a0 God created it that way.\u00a0 So mom and dad have the God-created ability to influence like nobody else.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0 What you\u2019re trying to do at your church and in the book that you\u2019ve written, is really the same thing that we\u2019ve tried to do with some of the resources we created like <em>Passport to Purity<\/em>, which enables a mom and dad to engage with a son or a daughter right before puberty sets in.\u00a0 So that you have an opportunity to talk about relationships with the opposite sex and about peer pressure, and about what the dating years are going to look like, and what kind of structure you want to put around those before a son or a daughter has started to engage with those issues.\u00a0 So, you\u2019re playing offense rather than playing defense.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mention that because I wanted folks to remember that we\u2019ve got <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center.\u00a0 But I also wanted them to know that your book, <em>Shift<\/em>, is in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center as well.\u00a0 You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy, or you can call 1-800-FLTODAY.\u00a0 1-800-358-6329 that\u2019s 1-800 F as in \u201cfamily\u201d L as in \u201clife\u201d and then the word TODAY.\u00a0 When you get in touch with us, we\u2019ll let you know how you can get a copy of Brian\u2019s book, or a copy of the <em>Passport to Purity<\/em> material sent out to you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, quickly let me remind you about the matching gift opportunity that has been made available to us here at FamilyLife during the month of May.\u00a0 We\u2019re very excited about this and we are hoping and praying that we\u2019ll be able to take full advantage of the funds that have been pledged this matching gift fund.\u00a0 We\u2019ve had some folks who have stepped forward and said they will match every donation we receive during the month of May, on a dollar-for-dollar basis up a total of, what is now more than $300,000.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we\u2019re trying to get the word out so that we can hear from listeners and from friends of the ministry who would make a $20 or a $50, $100 or $500 donation knowing that donation is going to be matched, and as a result will be doubled.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe really do hope that we can take full advantage of this matching gift opportunity in the month of May.\u00a0 To do that, we want to ask you to go online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and make a donation.\u00a0 Do whatever you can do.\u00a0 I know for some of you, you may say, \u201cWe just can\u2019t do much.\u201d\u00a0 If it\u2019s $5, if it\u2019s $10, whatever you can do.\u00a0 Make a donation to help support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u00a0 Keep us on the air on this station and on our network of stations all across the country.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just want to say thanks in advance for whatever you\u2019re able to do to help support the ministry.\u00a0 We appreciate you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you have a great weekend.\u00a0 I hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend.\u00a0 I hope you can join us back on Monday.\u00a0 We\u2019re going to talk about what a couple can do in the period from when a young man says \u201cWill you marry me?\u201d to when a couple looks at each other and they both say, \u201cI do.\u201d\u00a0 That engagement period, what you can do during that time so that you are preparing for more than just a wedding.\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk about that on Monday.\u00a0 I hope you can with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today Keith Lynch and our entire broadcast production team.\u00a0 On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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